[07:33] <dholbach> good morning
[07:43] <zzarr> good morning
[08:49] <zzarr> I'm back on 15.10 after a GPU Driver crash
[08:50] <zzarr> if I install "[backup] Qt 5.5.1 for Ubuntu 15.10" (PPA) I can't have Ubuntu-SDK installed
[08:58] <popey> ^ Mirv might be able to help with that?
[09:00] <zzarr> thanks popey, I'll ask him
[09:25] <popey> bartbes, thanks for the ctrl patch, tested it and it works well here. Nice one!
[09:26] <popey> bartbes, thinking maybe there should be a plain Control key on the CTRL keyboard bar _and_ the function keys bar, what do you think?
[09:27] <zzarr> popey, I solved it :-D
[09:27] <popey> yay
[09:28] <zzarr> but now I got another problem, even with a new project and a default kit I get a message "Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml"
[09:29] <zzarr> I'm reinstalling the click chroot now, so I'll hope that solves the problem
[09:31] <zzarr> I just realized one thing, it seams that the click chroot I install now is a stable version
[09:32] <zzarr> in order to install the overlay it should be the developer version
[09:32] <zzarr> is that testing or unstable?
[10:00] <Mirv> zzarr: if you mean the overlay PPA, it's what the stable is by definition (stable = Ubuntu 15.04/vivid + https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay). developer version is xenial (16.04)
[10:04] <zzarr> okey, I didn't know that, thanks
[10:15] <bartbes> popey: would make sense
[10:15] <popey> k
[10:16] <popey> really appreciate the patch!
[10:16] <bartbes> I just really needed a control key :P
[10:17] <popey> :)
[10:17] <bartbes> it was also a good excuse to open up a touch app's codebase
[10:57] <ahayzen> faenil, I've noticed that the positionViewAtIndex doesn't always work now (possibly due to the move to Layouts), do you know any issues with this ?
[10:57] <faenil> ahayzen: define doesn't always work :)
[10:57] <ahayzen> it doesn't position the view at the index ;-)
[10:58] <faenil> ahayzen: "always"
[10:58] <ahayzen> on device it seems to work if you are lower, but not higher
[10:58] <ahayzen> yeah
[10:58] <ahayzen> just certain cases do/don't work
[10:58] <faenil> I'm not aware of any issues related to layout
[10:58] <ahayzen> ok :-/
[10:58] <faenil> but as a blind guess I'd say that it's due to the fact that layouts resize
[10:58] <faenil> and don't have a fixed height
[10:58] <ahayzen> yeah i would guess that
[10:58] <ahayzen> hmm
[10:59] <ahayzen> but all of ours will be the same height ?
[10:59] <ahayzen> eg in the queue, we only have a title/subtitle and no wrapping
[10:59] <faenil> don't know, it depends on your code
[10:59] <faenil> ah, ok
[10:59] <ahayzen> (that's where the positionAt isn't working as well and the only place we need it)
[11:00] <ahayzen> faenil, can i fix the height? or will I have to guess the height before the creation of the object ? so i can put it in the ListItem ?
[11:00] <faenil> ahayzen: I see, you could try quickly switching back to old delegate (but only change that!) and see if that's really a problem
[11:00] <faenil> I don't see why, especially because as you said they should all have same height
[11:01] <ahayzen> well on desktop, i had a revision that was a few back and it was fine, until i pulled in the latest changes. So its something that has changed recently :-) (either layouts or the move to gridview)
[11:02] <ahayzen> maybe it is because i change the padding
[11:11] <kivi> morning all
[11:13] <kivi> popey, mhall119; Curious as to whether you have seen what has happened to nautilus on 16.04? I'm thinking of maybe throwing some development time behind the filebrowser core app, so we can have a fitted desktop replacement.
[11:14] <kivi> Question for me though is, have you guys decided on a proper flag for determining when Unity8 is in desktop mode, tablet mode, phone mode, or are you still doing it via the current window size?
[11:15] <popey> hah, that's currently under discussion on the mailing list :)
[11:16] <popey> kivi, I'd welcome contributions to file manager.
[11:16] <kivi> popey, what's under discussion; the file manager, or the mode flag?
[11:16] <popey> determining device you're running on
[11:16] <popey> quite a long thread
[11:16] <popey> basically "don't detect device", but "detect capabilities / peripherals"
[11:17] <popey> that's the tl;dr I think :)
[11:17] <kivi> popey, Yeah thats the take away I got looking into it a while back. Well if they come out with a standard official way,
[11:18] <popey> Right now we just resize
[11:18] <kivi> I know, and I hate that.
[11:18] <kivi> ty for the info
[12:26] <zzarr> hello again
[12:27] <zzarr> I have a newly installed completely up to date vivid click chroot (without any PPA)
[12:28] <zzarr> but I can't install qtconnectivity5-dev
[12:28] <zzarr> it says
[12:28] <zzarr> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:28] <zzarr>  libqt5opengl5-dev : Depends: qtbase5-dev (= 5.4.1+dfsg-2ubuntu11~vivid3)
[12:28] <zzarr>  qtconnectivity5-dev : Depends: qtbase5-dev
[12:29] <zzarr> I just realized that there is a PPA, but I have not installed it
[12:31] <zzarr> the PPA I found is ci-train-ppa-service-ubuntu-stable-phone-overlay
[12:43] <popey> zzarr, is it an armhf chroot?
[12:43] <popey> zzarr, if so, you need to apt-get install qtconnectivity5-dev:armhf
[12:59] <zzarr> popey, yes it is, thanks
[13:03] <zzarr> popey, you're a hero :-D
[13:03] <popey> \o/
[13:10] <zzarr> popey, my project is building with Qt 5.5.1 :-D
[13:14] <zzarr> so, now I just got 20 compilation errors where the application do not find a lib I have created, yay, that's something that I understand and can fix
[13:34] <Mirv> zzarr: great! :)
[13:35] <zzarr> :-D
[13:45] <popey> hm, anyone got an mx4 handy?
[13:46]  * mcphail is tempted to trigger the !ask factoid
[13:48] <popey> :D
[13:49] <popey> I need someone to test a click package
[13:59] <popey> balloons, seen "ImportError: No module named 'lxml'" on https://code.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/ubuntu-docviewer-app/lok-qml-currentpart-moved/+merge/281840
[13:59] <popey> ?
[14:14] <zzarr> popey, I have an MX4 :-D
[14:14] <popey> oooh
[14:16] <popey> zzarr, http://people.canonical.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.docviewer_2.0.latest_armhf.click could you install that, and put a spreadsheet (like http://people.canonical.com/~alan/Mozilla_Location_Services.xlsx for example) and open with the doc viewer?
[14:16] <popey> it will either look zoomed in like this:- http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2016-01-12-133308.png
[14:17] <popey> or zoomed out like this:- http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2016-01-12-133734.png
[14:17] <zzarr> sure, should I open the link on the phone?
[14:17] <popey> would like to know which pls :)
[14:17] <popey> well, you could ssh to the phone, or adb shell
[14:17] <popey> then wget the two files
[14:17] <popey> then pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted com.ubuntu.docviewer_2.0.latest_armhf.click
[14:17] <zzarr> okey
[14:17] <popey> (which will be easier)
[14:17] <popey> thanks!
[14:17] <Tellah> zbenjamin, might as well bug you and bzoltan_ ; I know you are busy, but I figured you might want to be reminded of the qtcreator plugin.
[14:17] <Tellah> https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/qtcreator-plugin-autopilot/added-copyright-license-header
[14:18] <zzarr> popey, the clock on one of the png's show 13:37 (leet), nice touch :-D
[14:19] <popey> unintentional :)
[14:19] <zzarr> popey, it is... hehe
[14:20] <zzarr> my device don't show up in the sdk
[14:24] <zzarr> how do I install a click package I have downloaded?
 then pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted com.ubuntu.docviewer_2.0.latest_armhf.click
[14:25] <zzarr> what does you mean with <popey>
[14:25] <popey> that was me copy/pasting the line above
[14:26] <zzarr> ohh, I missed that, sry
[14:26] <popey> once you install you need to pull-down to refresh the app scope
[14:26] <zzarr> okey
[14:29] <zzarr> installing now
[14:34] <zzarr> popey, I don't notice any new app, is it the default docviewer?
[14:34] <popey> yes
[14:34] <zzarr> okey, I'll test it now
[14:36] <zzarr> popey, it looks like the leet png
[14:37] <popey> brilliant, thanks
[14:37] <zzarr> np, glad to help :-D
[14:39] <zzarr> popey, I have to say, very well done
[14:40] <popey> sverzegnassi, ^ :) Well done
[14:41] <zzarr> in that case, well done both of you
[14:46] <sverzegnassi> zzarr, thanks! :)
[14:47] <zzarr> :-D
[15:03] <dholbach> jdstrand: if you have a bit of time, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1523384?
[19:31] <mhall119> davidcalle: bzoltan_: the latest unity-js-scopes-doc is still not in the SDK team release PPA, I can't get them online until it is
[20:28] <mhall119> popey: is nik90's Flashback app available somewhere?
[20:37] <popey> its on lauchpad
[20:37] <popey> but the trackt api changed and I think he didnt have time to fix it
[20:45] <mhall119> ah, ok, so no good for a demo then
[20:45] <popey> no, unless you fix it ;)
[21:03] <davidcalle> bzoltan_: the unity-js-scopes r122 one you moved the other day has, apprently, not moved
[21:47] <t1mp> it seems I cannot launch any application in autopilot with TestCase.launch_upstart_application(appName)
[21:47] <t1mp> but launch_test_application(appName) does seem to work....
[21:48]  * t1mp confused
[21:48] <dobey> t1mp: launch_upstart_application() i presume runs upstart jobs
[21:49] <t1mp> dobey: I guess... I am trying to run UITK tests. And all tests that load external qml files work, but all the tests that have qml code embedded in the python test code don't run
[21:49] <dobey> oh, it says it does it via ubuntu-app-launch
[21:49] <t1mp> maybe it is an issue with my upstart configuration
[21:50] <ahayzen> t1mp, FWIW we use launch_click_package(appName) in music's AP
[21:50] <dobey> i don't think launch_upstart_application () is what you ever want
[21:51] <ahayzen> and launch_test_application() when on a non-click environment
[21:51] <t1mp> I get something like this when I run an AP test http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14481052/
[21:52] <t1mp> dobey: it seems like our UbuntuTestCase for UITK has been using that since forever
[21:52] <dobey> huh
[21:52] <t1mp> and for other people, the same tests apparently work. So that's why I was guessing maybe my upstart config is messed up on my laptop
[21:53] <dobey> do you have ubuntu-app-launch installed on your laptop?
[21:54] <t1mp> yes, I can run ubuntu-app-launch.
[21:54] <t1mp> I just found out now that I am checking why the AP tests are not working for me
[21:54] <t1mp> maybe it is a build dependency for UITK
[21:54] <t1mp> launch_upstart_application() comes from here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/tests/autopilot/ubuntuuitoolkit/tests/__init__.py#L109
[22:13] <popey> balloons, check it out! I fixed the spreadsheet! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TWttFQOYwiImkvqT5hLkeWP954rA0G5oVNUWrq6vxi8/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=1
[22:14] <popey> \o/ \o/ \o/
[22:55] <farad> good evening!
[22:56] <farad> is it possible to extend an existing QtDeveloper installation, so that I can use it to develop for the ubuntu phone with it?
[22:56] <t1mp> so I have a ~/.local/share/applications/tmpa2ir07zt.desktop and /tmp/tmp4z8r54kj.qml. How would I launch that with applauncher?
[22:56] <t1mp> err
[22:56] <t1mp> with upstart
[22:56] <farad> sorry I mean QtCreator
[22:57] <t1mp> farad: as I understood, we could not do everything needed for that in a separate plugin for qtcreator. So you would need to install the ubuntu-sdk instead of your current QtC (or perhaps next to it)
[22:58] <t1mp> but I don't know the details. zbenjamin and bzoltan_ will know (when they are online tomorrow)
[22:58] <farad> OK thanks - all I wanted to know was if there exists a separate plugin
[22:59] <farad> which would enable me to develop from different platforms
[23:00] <t1mp> farad: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/blog/2015/11/19/here-comes-brand-new-ubuntu-sdk-ide-tools/ explains how to install it
[23:15] <farad> @t1mp: thanks, I think I found all I need