[05:36] Laney: wonders what's blocking libpinyin w/ dependencies to migrate [06:05] Hi [06:12] Good morning [06:16] Hi pitti [07:05] good morning [07:05] bonjour didrocks ! [07:06] didrocks: I haven't yet started with the unity issue, sorry; still chasing the ifupdown crash, but I'm almost done [07:07] bonjour pitti ! pas de problème :) [07:07] good morning desktopers [07:07] hey pitti, re didrocks [07:07] re seb128 [07:11] bonjour seb128 ! [07:13] hello all [07:19] hey hikiko [07:21] good morning hikiko [07:21] good morning seb128 didrocks :) [07:42] didrocks: "fun", my trusty instance with ubuntu-desktop installed doesn't even boot [07:42] cloud-init times out trying to talk to 169.254.169.254 [07:43] ah, cloud-init gets removed during autopkgtests, perhaps that was the reason why [07:46] :) [07:46] didrocks: meh, so I'll need to rebuild it :/ [07:47] didrocks: OOI, do you know if --no-install-recommends succeeds? [07:47] that would cut out half of the packages [07:48] pitti: I wanted first to get large tests succeeding for sure on the remote [07:48] pitti: I can give it a try if you want [07:48] (but cutting a release right now first) [07:48] didrocks: ok, so I'll just use that for now; starting unity shouldn't be affected by LibO or tbird :) [07:50] pitti: yeah, let's see if our desktop seed doesn't miss anything :) [07:52] didrocks: systemctl is broken on trusty; outrageous ! [07:53] haha, who dare using systemd on it :) [07:56] sudo eatmydata apt-get install --no-install-recommends ubuntu-desktop [07:56] didrocks: ^ took 5 mins; I'd say this is fast enough, especially once we stop looking at it and it just happens automatically [07:57] oh CRAP [07:57] I installed ubuntu-desktop on the adt runner prodstack instance [07:58] pitti: I did a run in another branch (all tests) with this, let's see [08:00] good morning ! [08:35] morning! [08:37] hey larsu, how are you? [08:37] didrocks: ubuntu-desktop, no recommends, eatmydata, on scalingstack this time: "real 2m59.129s" [08:38] seb128: annoyed. I just openend my laptop, no login screen. Interacted with it for a couple of minutes and *then* it locks [08:38] pitti: nice! let's hope the tests pass then (they are working here for now with no recommends) [08:38] didrocks: oh, cool [08:38] seb128: otherwise good :) Ça va? [08:38] larsu, urg :-/ [08:38] hi pitti & didrocks! [08:38] pitti: however, I removed the all needs-recommends stenza, and it seems docker isn't happy [08:38] hey larsu [08:38] larsu, ça va, I've what look like an angina though :-/ [08:38] didrocks: ok, it reboots without cloud-init, now I can finally get to configuring lightdm :) [08:38] pitti: heh ;) [08:38] hey larsu, wie gehts? [08:38] seb128: uh no! all the best [08:38] seb128: urgh :( [08:39] pitti: gut danke! Und dir? Kommste zur FOSDEM? [08:39] didrocks: and of course fix my autopkgtest controller which I just ruined :) [08:39] stupid non cold enough winter [08:39] larsu: na logo! [08:39] pitti: *freu* [08:39] larsu: ich auch! [08:39] larsu, danke :-) [08:40] didrocks: yep, not even necessary to configure autologin -- lightdm itself even fails to start [08:40] didrocks: perhaps your setup test can detect that and cat /var/log/lightdm/* if lightdm is not running? [08:41] pitti: ok, at least large tests failing makes sense [08:41] pitti: yeah, that's something I could detect [08:42] pitti: the only thing is that I'll need to sleep for a while for detecting (like a timeout) after the reboot [08:42] and detect unity and compiz [08:42] didrocks: some of your large tests succeeded; is it plausible that in your VM lightdm didn't run at all? [08:43] didrocks: i. e. can the succeeding tests pass without any $DISPLAY? [08:43] didrocks: lspci does not have any VGA device [08:43] pitti: no, as told, some doesn't need a display [08:44] so yeah, those would pass [08:44] (go, scala, baseinstaller…) [08:44] didrocks: ack [08:44] those are the one which aren't running any GUIs [08:48] nice, it's running now [08:50] what have you done? [08:50] didrocks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14476586/ [08:50] didrocks: just configured the dummy driver [08:51] great, let's hope tests pass now! :) [08:51] didrocks: so, add -dummy as test depends, write xorg.conf, that should do it [08:52] pitti: yeah, + the loop to ensure it's running in test dep [08:52] pitti: thanks for looking! It seems there are just 2 remaining roadblocks now: [08:53] - seems like medium tests in the infra doesn't access to dockerhub (but you did the tests IIRC…) [08:53] didrocks: ah, let's look at that next [08:53] - if I switch on to not install recommends in d/t/c (so, for ubuntu-desktop and tests requirements), docker doesn't seem to be able to communicate to its client for docker run [08:53] I can reproduce the second [08:53] pitti: readd recommends then, to not trigger on #2 [08:54] hm, docker does not recommend anything [08:54] yeah, I don't know what I'm getting, waiting for the vm to finish setting up [08:55] but I got for each test: [08:55] time="2016-01-12T09:19:13+01:00" level=fatal msg="Error response from daemon: Cannot start container 18a6a4b6792544b3d4d37c811980405fe6bdf4daf54baf5fa54a7f46a4363c3d: [8] System error: mountpoint for devices not found" [08:55] when removing recommends [08:55] didrocks: hm, does docker need cgmanager or lxcfs or lxc itself? [08:56] ah, can be, for cgroups management… [08:56] (cgmanager?) [08:56] it doesn't use lxcfs or lxc anymore AFAIK [08:57] didrocks: argh, sorry, looked at "docker", not "docker.io" [08:57] Recommends: aufs-tools, ca-certificates, cgroupfs-mount | cgroup-lite, git, xz-utils, apparmor [08:57] didrocks: so I bet it's missing /sys/fs/cgroup/devices/ then [08:58] didrocks: >= utopic should be fine as systemd mounts that, but not in trusty [08:58] didrocks: so I bet cgroupfs-mount does it [08:58] didrocks: so perhaps "systemd-sysv | cgroupfs-mount"? [08:58] pitti: I'll apt install it [08:58] and keep you posted [08:59] (recommends git, seriously? :p) [09:00] hey guys [09:01] didrocks: "wget -O- https://hub.docker.com/_/ubuntu/" works from the instance [09:01] didrocks: is there a particular URL I should try? [09:01] "env -u https_proxy wget -O- https://hub.docker.com/_/ubuntu/" hangs as expected [09:01] so I guess it's not passing the proxy env vars properly? [09:03] hi hi! [09:03] hey Laney! [09:03] pitti: docker pull didrocks/docker-umake-manual is what is run [09:03] pitti: it's adding the proxy to /etc/default/docker.io (which is what it was doing on jenkins [09:04] which was using trusty [09:04] morning Laney [09:06] hey willcooke [09:06] hey Laney [09:09] hey pitti didrocks seb128 and willcooke! [09:09] how's it going? [09:09] quite fine, thanks! yourself? [09:09] Laney, alright! having what looks like an angina though :-/ [09:09] err [09:10] you should maybe go lie down :/ [09:11] pitti: hum cgroupfs-mount doesn't exist on trusty [09:11] (starting on vivid) [09:11] or is that the correct word in english? it feels like google translator misleaded me [09:11] pitti: good thanks! [09:11] didrocks: cgroup-lite then? [09:11] "throat infection" is rather it [09:11] HAHA [09:12] angina is heart pain [09:12] pitti: promising! no more error, let me run the tests now :) [09:13] didrocks: apt-get install docker.io in trusty chroot installs cgroup-lite indeed [09:13] pitti: yeah, and medium tests start to pass! [09:13] pitti: have you seen the few hung tests on armhf? [09:13] lxc-attach: attach.c: lxc_attach_to_ns: 257 No such file or directory - failed to open '/proc/11472/ns/mnt' [09:13] Laney: I did, still on my list [09:13] lxc-attach: attach.c: lxc_attach: 926 failed to enter the namespace [09:13] Laney, yeah, no, no that then ... we call it "angine", it's throat disconfort and tonsils which hurt [09:13] Laney: currently dealing with perl and some infra issues [09:14] seb128: we call it "Angina" too, FWIW [09:14] wow [09:14] this is a quite different thing in english [09:14] yeah, I just noticed when googling [09:14] although that's probably one of these cases where popular naming is totally wrong :) [09:14] pitti: so, basically, once the large tests finishes (if they pass), I can remove recommends, check if systemd-sysv is installed. If not, install cgroup-lite [09:14] pitti: the remaining one is then docker & proxy… [09:14] I think it means strangulation in greek or latin or something [09:15] pitti: infra> ack [09:16] what's the best way to kick tracker so that it can be restarted? [09:16] can leave the others for you to look at ;-) [09:16] Laney: how do you mean "kick"? run-autopkgtest? [09:16] kill [09:17] it is one of the hung tests [09:17] Laney: ah, find the host it's running on and kill (TERM, not KILL) the adt-run process [09:17] nod, thanks! [09:56] * seb128 wonders why http://cgit.freedesktop.org/accountsservice/ is missing [10:10] larsu, what's the status of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755421 ? [10:10] Gnome bug 755421 in gdbus "GDBus ignores NO_REPLY_EXPECTED flag in messages, leading to warnings on system bus" [Normal,New] [10:10] bug #1488344 [10:10] bug 1488344 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "dbus rejected send messages" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1488344 [10:10] does it need nagging of a glib maintainer? [10:19] yes [10:19] desrt comes to mind :) [10:33] andyrock: hey! Mind helping this contributor on unity (it's a google code in contributor). I did a MP for him so that you can review and copy/pasting his comments: https://code.launchpad.net/~mcintire-evan/unity/add-format-option/+merge/282282 [10:33] he's* [10:33] yup [10:33] and good morning [10:33] :D [10:34] thanks :) [10:35] probably we need to rebase it [10:35] on a trevino's branch [10:37] andyrock: I guess feel free to comment on so that he knows what's up :) [10:37] (and if you can sync with Trevinho|OFF once he's back, that would be awesome!) [10:39] pitti: setup was quite quick, pep8 and small passed, medium started and pulls the image successfully [10:39] (and first test passed) [10:45] ook [10:46] TheMuso> ksamak: The only place where I know of GOBject anywhere near compiz is in unity itself, for a11y support. Afaik compiz is all C++ now, and I'd say upstrea would prefer it that way. [10:46] TheMuso: i understand, i'll try to keep it that way too. [10:46] shame that atkmm is bounded to Gobject... [10:47] thx for the opinion [11:10] Laney: fixed the "unable to find this glibc version" bug FYI, so the spamming should stop RSN === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [11:13] pitti: oh good :) [11:13] * pitti throws hands into the air "hideously complicated" [11:14] hey guys, lost connection for a while... [11:14] hi happyaron! [11:15] so did I lost your reply? :p [11:16] no I didn't find you to reply to [11:16] haha [11:16] libpinyin is a transition yes? [11:16] yep [11:17] reverse-deps are fcitx-libpinyin & ibus-libpinyin, all in -proposed [11:17] ubuntu-keyboard-chinese-pinyin : Depends: libpinyin4 (>= 0.9.93) but it is not installable [11:18] FAAAAAAAAAAAAALSE! [11:18] hell, what's that [11:18] go to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [11:18] touch stuff I see [11:18] and search for "Trying easy from autohinter: fcitx-libpinyin/0.3.3-2 libpinyin/1.3.0-2 ibus-libpinyin/1.7.3-2" [11:18] that shows you what the problems are [11:19] thanks a lot [11:19] you want me to upload a rebuild? [11:19] I'll check it now, not sure whether rebuild will work for it [11:20] "reverse-depends libpinyin4" shows it btw [11:20] didn't imagine there's something else in Ubuntu that will depends on libpinyin... [11:22] :) [11:24] yay ubiquity works now [11:27] * happyaron is building something new to him [11:30] Laney: rebuild using libpinyin7-dev does the work, please upload [11:30] happyaron: can you make a merge proposal with the changes please? [11:30] then I'll upload direct too [11:31] ok [11:58] happyaron: done === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [12:06] willcooke, does chrome tear all the time or when it displays video? [12:08] hikiko, I notice it all the time, but it really only bothers me if it's playing video [12:08] qengho's new string *does* seem to have helped, but I need to do more testing [12:09] qengho's string comment #6 should fix it [12:09] if it always occurs [12:09] but if you only see it when you play video it's just a browser bug [12:09] I installed chrome + netflix [12:10] but still no tearing [12:22] Laney: thanks, I've set the commit message. [12:22] ♥ [12:55] * Trevinho|OFF back from Thailand... [12:55] So... Hello! The time shift tricked me :-( === Trevinho|OFF is now known as Trevinho [12:57] hey Trevinho|OFF! [12:57] hey Trevinho [12:57] did you have good holidays? [12:58] seb128: hi! Very good seb, thanks, [12:58] I also managed not to buy a local SIM card, so I enjoyed the life offline [12:58] hey Trevinho, welcome back! :) [12:59] Well apart from the hotels WiFi [12:59] didrocks: hi, thanks [13:17] w/b Trevinho [13:21] hey Trevinho [13:23] * Laney hax into an s390x instance [13:32] Hi Laney and willcooke! [13:35] Trevinho, I was going to suggest we have a sprint review meeting tomorrow. What do you think? Shall we perhaps do it on Friday instead? [13:35] Give you some more time to wrap up after hols [13:43] happyaron: git server down.. [13:46] hey seb128 [13:47] dpm, hey [13:47] seb128, how are you? [13:48] dpm, a bit sick today but good otherwise. how are you? [13:48] argh, sorry to hear that :) [13:48] hope you get well soon [13:48] thanks [13:48] I'm good, busy with ubucon final preparations [13:48] I got your e-mail [13:48] better to be sick this week than next :-) [13:49] I though so [13:49] hehe indeed :) [13:49] tell me I'm overlooking something stupid ;-) [13:49] I don't think you've overlooked anything, so let's try to debug - if you go to http://www.meetup.com/Ubuntu-California/events/227070159/ - do you see the "Join and RSVP" button on the right top corner? [13:50] tes [13:50] yes [13:50] but that opens a dialog asking for a meetup account [13:50] which I don't have ... is that mandatory? [13:51] seb128, ok, so I think you'll need to create a meetup account first. I don't think you can register without it [13:51] k [13:51] can I not register? [13:51] e.g is the registration mandatory? [13:51] I'm not interested by creating an account on yet another website [13:52] seb128, it's not mandatory, but it help us estimate the number of attendees and the number of lanyards [13:52] well, you have my oral [13:52] +confirmation [13:52] can I suggest that next Ubuntu events use sso logins like UDS does? [13:54] we've had long discussions about it, either using summit.ubuntu.com or loco.ubuntu.com. We decided for meetup as it's something we're offering to LoCos and the organizers were the Ubuntu California LoCo [13:54] we even created an event at summit.ubuntu.com [13:55] but decided against it [13:57] dpm, I can understand that, I just decided to create dummy accounts on random websites when I can avoid it so I'm not going to register, just letting you know [13:57] +not [13:57] if you have somewhere under sso login when I can register I'm happy to do so though [13:57] otherwise I'm just going to email confirm [13:58] seb128, that's fine, we'll print a Microsoft lanyard for you [13:58] * dpm hugs seb128 :) [13:58] lol [13:58] * seb128 hugs dpm back [13:58] that's fine, I can do Microsoft VP, apparently they started telling people how much win7 sucks :p [13:59] (in the goal of making them update to 10, but I choice to ignore that part and focus on MS telling that win7 is insecure and buggy ;-) [13:59] :) [13:59] I'm trying to see if there is a way to register without an account [14:00] thanks, but don't bother [14:00] it's not important, as long as I can enter the event [14:02] omg snow! [14:02] good morning, everyone [14:02] seb128, larsu: thanks for the poke on that bug. didn't see that the dbus spec changes got merged in the end. [14:02] seb128, in any case, it doesn't seem possible to RSVP without an account. The alternative is to sign up wit Facebook, but the button does not seem to show in Firefox, just in Chromium [14:04] good morning desrt [14:04] 'sup didrocks? [14:04] nothing special, and no snow here :) [14:04] you? [14:04] my feet are cold and i haven't had coffee yet [14:05] off to a bad start, but things are about to be looking up [14:05] heh [14:06] desrt: morning :) [14:06] desrt, hey, yw! [14:06] desrt: not a fan of reexporting actions like you suggested [14:06] re-exporting? [14:06] ya [14:07] i think you've never really told me what it is that you're doing here [14:07] remember I want to export actions from somewhere down the hierarchy [14:07] is this the proxying thing for the other action group being visible on the window level? [14:07] yes [14:07] oh... [14:07] in that case... [14:07] i'm glad i rejected the patch >:| [14:07] dpm, it shows for me in firefox, but I'm on principle against giving too much data to facebook or contributing to make it the reference platform it has too much of a monopoly [14:07] dpm, sorry, old grumpy geek here ;-) [14:08] desrt: I still need to do it, though, and now I can only do it unnamespaced [14:08] unless I create new actions objects... [14:08] why did you move away from the idea of exporting 'additional action groups' on the bus? [14:08] because, honestly... if you take a step back and look at what you're doing, it's pretty scary. [14:08] i guess, first: what's going on here? why is there a separate group? [14:09] is the answer more than "because it's possible"? [14:09] because that's a much larger project that I don't want to backport to xenial [14:09] which has 3.18 [14:09] seb128, sure, just giving options here [14:09] larsu: your patch that mucks about how actions are exported would be a pretty scary backport as well... not sure i'd want to do that [14:10] desrt: it's a separate group because that's how nautilus works now (it has different subviews for folders and "other locations", each being an action group itself) [14:10] desrt: ya, we talked about that. That's because I forgot about the RemoteActionGroup stuff [14:10] larsu: so the group may change when a new tab is selected, for example? [14:10] yes [14:10] or a new "thing" from the sidebar [14:10] and you plan on handling that manually? [14:10] right now it's inserted into the window, which is fine for the gear menu of course [14:11] desrt: no, I plan on making it work. I [14:11] I've done like 5 approaches. All of them shit [14:11] all for the hate of a gear menu [14:11] yes [14:11] I've been on this for way too long already [14:12] but no matter what I do, patches become too invasive or something doesn't work right [14:12] heh [14:12] i know that feeling :) [14:13] i'm pretty sure, excepting a nautilus refactor, you're going to have to export the groups as-is [14:13] larsu, it might be time to consider if really want the menubar and/or the new nautilus [14:13] I'm starting wondering if we should revert to 3.14 [14:13] (not only because of menus) [14:13] desrt: what do you mean? [14:14] desrt: the window// thing we discussed? [14:14] larsu: what we talked about in london: export the group on the bus at some subpath of the window and have a mapping of symbolic names ('tab'?) to object paths as a property on the window [14:14] yes [14:14] seb128: I have a serious case of sunk cost fallacy at this point [14:14] why did this idea stop working? [14:15] larsu, I can imagine :-/ [14:15] desrt: it didn't. I deemed that patch to be too large to backport [14:15] so why don't we forget about the backport? [14:15] hahahahahaha [14:15] welcome to my life [14:16] what's the deal right now? are menus just completely broken? [14:16] or are we simply unable to export, and so we get a gear menu? [14:16] well we have an app menu [14:16] and a gear menu [14:16] and app menus really don't work well in unity [14:16] apparently this passed QA for the release [14:16] (double app title and all) [14:17] desrt: no, this is 3.18 - we released 3.14 in w [14:18] so we're talking about backports in terms of vendor-patching old upstream [14:18] yes [14:18] gotcha [14:18] i don't think there's any such thing as "too large to backport" in this case :) [14:18] as long as we have a future solution for killing that patch off in the next cycle [15:17] who holds interest in 14.04.4 images? could you get Win10 compatibility into the SRU queue? https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/os-prober/trusty_add_win10_to_the_list/+merge/281040 [15:17] I managed to test it now [15:18] otherwise the only automated install option with 14.04 is to wipe the whole hard disk, plus also win10 is not recognized after installation [15:18] Mirv, that seems like one for devel/cyphermox [15:19] and I think most people do care about the LTS [15:19] what question is that :-) [15:19] seb128: well no-one sponsored it during the holidays when it has been in the queue! :) [15:19] pff, people spending holidays as holidays [15:19] ah, jes [15:19] maybe because it was the holidays and people were not working? :p [15:20] Mirv: I'll merge this in a minute, it indeed should land [15:20] cyphermox: thanks [15:20] thanks cyphermox [15:26] I happened to notice I'm still a (very) technically a post-graduate student and get all MS things for 0€, so I got one for VM testing [15:27] that is quite aggressive way of drowning all young people in MS products, but I guess it's been the normal thing for some time, I just haven't noticed since I haven't had MS products since.. forever [15:27] very nice for testing, anyway [15:28] yeah [15:30] righty [15:30] yeah, meeting! [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12 [15:30] Meeting started Tue Jan 12 15:30:38 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12 | Current topic: [15:31] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:31] o/ [15:31] hihi [15:31] o/ [15:31] o/ [15:31] hey! [15:31] hi [15:32] hey [15:32] hi [15:33] let's get started then [15:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12 | Current topic: andyrock [15:33] I've been working on the startup notification branch for bamf and unity [15:33] now that Trevinho is back and I can use his knowledge should be easy to finish the branch [15:34] \eof [15:34] thanks andyrock [15:34] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12 | Current topic: attente [15:34] hi all [15:34] finished gtk popup menu revisions, but won't be merged upstream until a working wayland implementation also exists [15:34] currently making some final apparmor dconf revisions... [15:34] (eof) [15:35] thanks attente, happy travels for next week [15:35]