| craysiii | is there a way to update something installed with umake ? | 00:12 |
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| * mgedmin wants to set up a chroot to test his pygtk software on stock ubuntu 15.10 without the staging ppa | 06:33 | |
| mgedmin | oh my this is complicated | 06:45 |
| mgedmin | success, I think? | 07:24 |
| darkxst | mgedmin, you could probably use sbuild-launchpad-chroot for that | 07:24 |
| darkxst | (its normally used for builders, but you can install whatever in them) | 07:25 |
| mgedmin | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild is good | 07:25 |
| darkxst | really? | 07:26 |
| darkxst | sbuild-launchpad-chroot create -n wily-chroot -s wily -a amd64 | 07:26 |
| mgedmin | compared to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/BuildEnvironment or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot | 07:26 |
| darkxst | then: schroot -c source:wily-chroot | 07:27 |
| darkxst | and install whatever you need | 07:28 |
| mgedmin | but if I do that, I won't have a pristine chroot any more, AFAIU | 07:28 |
| darkxst | then schroot -c wily-chroot | 07:28 |
| mgedmin | otoh it takes 4 minutes to create one, why am I worrying? | 07:28 |
| * mgedmin reads about sbuild-launchpad-chroot | 07:29 | |
| darkxst | all changes get dropped when you exit in the later case | 07:29 |
| mgedmin | sbuild is better than pbuilder because it's faster, right? | 07:32 |
| darkxst | yes atleast with tmpfs and eatmydata | 07:33 |
| darkxst | and apt-cacher-ng, its a bit harder to define a mirror with sbuild | 07:34 |
| mgedmin | thanks! | 07:37 |
| Linnak | Hi, I'd like to install ubuntu on my girlfriend laptop. She wants Gnome shell. I want LTS because I don't want to bother for at least a year. How can I install a newer version of gnome shell on this? | 10:18 |
| mgedmin | you don't | 10:21 |
| mgedmin | if you want LTS, you get ancient software :( | 10:21 |
| Linnak | What a shame | 10:22 |
| mgedmin | the next LTS is coming out in 4 months | 10:22 |
| Linnak | Then I go with Debian SID | 10:22 |
| mgedmin | that's a surprising choice for someone who wants stability | 10:22 |
| mgedmin | and long-term support | 10:22 |
| Linnak | Better than 15.10 | 10:23 |
| mgedmin | well, you know your use-case best | 10:23 |
| Linnak | '5.10 isn't stable and has no long time support, has it? | 10:23 |
| mgedmin | 15.10 is stable and gets 9 months of support (~7 of which remain) | 10:24 |
| LinDol | hi all | 13:05 |
| LinDol | long time no see :) | 13:05 |
| craysiii | i can't wait for 16.04 | 20:11 |
| craysiii | how fast does ubuntu gnome get released after the official ubuntu? | 20:12 |
| x-Na | Same day? | 20:44 |
| darkxst | craysiii, we follow the same official schedule | 21:49 |
| darkxst | all of the official flavour images get published at the exact same moment as ubuntu | 21:50 |
| craysiii | awesome | 21:51 |
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