[00:12] is there a way to update something installed with umake ? [06:33] * mgedmin wants to set up a chroot to test his pygtk software on stock ubuntu 15.10 without the staging ppa [06:45] oh my this is complicated [07:24] success, I think? [07:24] mgedmin, you could probably use sbuild-launchpad-chroot for that [07:25] (its normally used for builders, but you can install whatever in them) [07:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild is good [07:26] really? [07:26] sbuild-launchpad-chroot create -n wily-chroot -s wily -a amd64 [07:26] compared to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/BuildEnvironment or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [07:27] then: schroot -c source:wily-chroot [07:28] and install whatever you need [07:28] but if I do that, I won't have a pristine chroot any more, AFAIU [07:28] then schroot -c wily-chroot [07:28] otoh it takes 4 minutes to create one, why am I worrying? [07:29] * mgedmin reads about sbuild-launchpad-chroot [07:29] all changes get dropped when you exit in the later case [07:32] sbuild is better than pbuilder because it's faster, right? [07:33] yes atleast with tmpfs and eatmydata [07:34] and apt-cacher-ng, its a bit harder to define a mirror with sbuild [07:37] thanks! [10:18] Hi, I'd like to install ubuntu on my girlfriend laptop. She wants Gnome shell. I want LTS because I don't want to bother for at least a year. How can I install a newer version of gnome shell on this? [10:21] you don't [10:21] if you want LTS, you get ancient software :( [10:22] What a shame [10:22] the next LTS is coming out in 4 months [10:22] Then I go with Debian SID [10:22] that's a surprising choice for someone who wants stability [10:22] and long-term support [10:23] Better than 15.10 [10:23] well, you know your use-case best [10:23] '5.10 isn't stable and has no long time support, has it? [10:24] 15.10 is stable and gets 9 months of support (~7 of which remain) [13:05] hi all [13:05] long time no see :) [20:11] i can't wait for 16.04 [20:12] how fast does ubuntu gnome get released after the official ubuntu? [20:44] Same day? [21:49] craysiii, we follow the same official schedule [21:50] all of the official flavour images get published at the exact same moment as ubuntu [21:51] awesome