[00:58] <balloons> Bill_, that's the way to do it :-)
[00:59] <xcub> hey balloons, could you help me with a task I am trying to do?
[01:00] <balloons> xcub, that depends.. :p What task?
[01:03] <xcub> https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5073251139059712/?sp-organization=4568116747042816&sp-is_beginner=False&sp-categories=1 this one, but it's not necessarily the task itself :P, it's that the address-book-app executable keeps on giving me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/14473965/ error whenever I try to run it
[01:07] <balloons> xcub, that means you have a dependency issue. Anytime an import fails like that, think dependency
[01:08] <balloons> InputDeviceModel is not a type -- you need the dependency that specifies this. Off the top of my head, I don't know. But I'm guessing you could dig around and find it
[01:11] <xcub> Is there any way to identify what dependency is missing?
[01:14] <xcub> nm
[01:14] <adueppen> balloons: Did I do https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5178641776377856/ correctly? I just want to check before I shut down my live session
[01:16] <balloons> adueppen, in response to 1. Yes, switching fonts worked fine but switching to fonts with different widths sometimes caused weird spacing issues; bug $?
[01:17] <adueppen> balloons: oh right I wasn't sure if that was a bug or just an issue with my computer being an old clunker
[01:17] <adueppen> since the issue resolved itself after a second or two
[01:18] <balloons> xcub, look through and try stuff from unity8. it uses it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/trunk/view/head:/debian/control
[01:18] <balloons> adueppen, weird. More info would be useful on that
[01:20] <adueppen> balloons: I'm not sure I really have much more info to give except that my computer has never been able to run Unity that well
[01:21] <adueppen> in terms of speed, that is
[01:29] <xcub> I looked through it, and I have installed every package listed, but it still gives me the same error.
[01:30] <balloons> something for your mentor then, sorry xcub :-(
[01:31] <xcub> alright, thanks for your help! :)
[02:14] <adueppen> balloons: is there anything I need to work on for my task?
[12:13] <fazer> elopio, why does the coverage decrease after my commits? I'm assuming that some tests no longer work, and thats what happens when I try to run all of them. But I don't understand why. I haven't modified any files except those 3.
[14:49] <Girish> balloons: I've some interesting UX changes for the QA Tracker. I'll submit them in the 2nd UX task.
[14:51] <Girish> Foe example, currently there are three ways to go to the home page, stacked on top of each other: the home icon, the ubuntu logo, and 'Home'. Should be only one button.
[15:13] <balloons> Girish, ack, thanks
[15:13] <balloons> adueppen, I left a comment just asking for more info about #1. Then I'll approve
[15:13] <balloons> didrocks, going to be able to get this one reviewed today? https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5728058354958336/?sp-page=1
[15:13] <didrocks> balloons: I did ask andyrock to answer, I created a MP for the guy
[15:13] <didrocks> one sec, let's check if he did
[15:15] <didrocks> balloons: seems like the MP needs to be rebased: https://code.launchpad.net/~mcintire-evan/unity/add-format-option/+merge/282282
[15:16] <didrocks> added some comments on the task
[15:17] <balloons> ty; feel free to hit 'more work needed' when you do that so it's clear
[15:18] <didrocks> balloons: well, this guy knows to respond, especially on the other tasks you closed during the holidays which aren't finished
[15:18] <didrocks> balloons: so, that forces me to track all tasks -> last modification
[15:18] <didrocks> instead of "in progress" :p
[15:19] <balloons> didrocks, ohh sorry about that. I'm doing the opposite heh. Tasks that are open show up in my queue, so I'm trying to keep them as more work, or approved ;-)
[15:20] <balloons> We get pinged when tasks carry on too long -- they like to see status updates and don't count comments for some reason :-(
[15:20] <didrocks> balloons: argh, comments are things moving
[15:20] <didrocks> balloons: ok, so adding time and pushing "more work needed"
[15:20] <didrocks> but still, the one you closed are a little bit annoying to track now :(
[15:21] <balloons> yea; and actually 'more work needed' should add time even I think
[15:21] <didrocks> yep
[15:21] <balloons> anyways, sorry for closing non-complete stuff. If I could re-open I would
[15:23] <didrocks> no worry :)
[16:29] <Girish> balloons: https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5458917932924928/?sp-page=1
[17:45] <balloons> Girish, a little busy today, but I saw your new image. the hamburger menu is interesting
[17:46] <balloons> leaving a comment
[18:19] <Girish> balloons: Left some comments on the task. View them whenevr you are free.
[18:22] <knome> Girish, MatthewAllen: will look at your design proposals after i've done another thing i need to do now
[18:24] <Girish> Okay.
[18:55] <knome> MatthewAllen, since you asked first, i've commented on your task first :)
[18:55] <knome> (and i guess sorry for the wall of text...)
[18:57] <MatthewAllen> knome, thankyou - so just address you comments and then resubmit?
[18:58] <knome> MatthewAllen, tbe, i don't know how "far" balloons wants to see these mockups going
[18:58] <knome> anyway,
[18:59] <balloons> knome, I'd like to actually get something implemented.
[18:59] <knome> i think instead of following any comments like a set of strictly specified rules isn't as important as considering the overall look and feel
[18:59] <MatthewAllen> balloons, how far would the task itself have to get, before you were happy to accept it
[18:59] <balloons> We can make a seperate task for it, but the goal is to revamp things and get it released
[18:59] <balloons> so I'd like the designs to end up in a place where you literally could implement them
[19:00] <knome> i mean i think it's ok that the mockup isn't 100% perfect, as long as there is some work done that explains how things are supposed to work
[19:00] <MatthewAllen> considering implementing it couldn't be done in the time frame
[19:00] <knome> balloons, something that might work would be a static page export from the tracker (to get a real example of the HTML), then let people work on the CSS for that
[19:01] <knome> i wouldn't do design work like this with a "real" installation myself
[19:01] <balloons> MatthewAllen, right. The implementation would be a seperate task, but it should be ready to go
[19:01] <balloons> this is why you are here knome :)
[19:02] <MatthewAllen> So get it to a state where I could go straight from the mockup into implementation?
[19:02] <balloons> that's the goal yes
[19:02] <knome> if we want the mockups go live, yeah
[19:03] <MatthewAllen> awesome, will get on it tommorow
[19:03] <knome> since mockups and plans are completely different as the implementation, i would repeat what i said earlier; i don't think the mockup needs to be 100% perfect, if you have certain things planned in advance
[19:04] <knome> getting something to eat next, then back for comments on Girish's task
[19:04] <balloons> ok thanks knome. Sounds like we need to export some of the live site then too? I appreciate the guidance
[19:11] <knome> i was actually just thinking save a certain page as HTML
[19:11] <knome> then students could use something like stylish to apply CSS to that
[19:28] <balloons> Can you do that for where it makes sense? the big one is the add results page
[19:35] <knome> i don't think i understood the question :)
[19:35] <knome> Girish, commented on your task too
[19:35] <knome> Girish, and again, sorry for the wall of text
[19:36] <knome> Girish, if it helps, the ubuntu brand assets (along with color palette and more) are at http://design.ubuntu.com/brand so you can get the colors right
[19:40] <balloons> knome, lol, as long as you understand the concept of creating designs that we can actually then implement (and hope to do so), then please make sure the tasks are setup in a way it's possible.
[19:41] <balloons> That's all I was after. Sounds a bit non-descript, but I suppose I'm just more or less asking you to talk the lead. I'll happily defer to you on this
[19:44] <balloons> aka, if doing exports and encouraging folks to use stylish is the way to go, please feel free to requet it
[20:34] <knome> balloons, i guess you are using either firefox or chrome?
[20:35] <balloons> I use both
[20:35] <knome> right, so stylish is available to both of them (at least)
[20:35] <knome> have you used it?
[20:35] <balloons> you've keyed me into it before
[20:35] <knome> hehe, good
[20:35] <balloons> but not hugely. I just have a fix you made for GCI
[20:36] <knome> this is something else you might want to use -> https://gist.github.com/knomepasi/22e5998bca83f53463b9
[20:36] <balloons> ohh.. editing the web, fun
[20:38] <knome> well yeah, it's greasemonkey for css
[20:39] <knome> the one problem that students might have with this is that they really need to know css and also that the source code can be a bit unforgiving at some points
[20:39] <knome> i mean, if there aren't good id's or classes, it can be a pain to target a specific element
[20:39] <knome> and of course, sometimes the markup you want isn't there
[23:03] <knome> balloons, you still around?
[23:31] <adueppen> balloons: got my task resubmitted