[00:01] <bazhang> the imagemagick manual rivals war and peace for length
[00:01] <bazhang> one of the former ops here actually printed it out
[04:11] <rww> Flannel: werewolf person has also been hit with a cluebat by their ops now too
[04:11] <rww> they don't like that sort of nonsense either
[04:11] <Flannel> Most channels don't.  Thankee.
[04:36] <daftykins> Flannel: you're aware you just kicked a volunteer for actually replying to relevant topics?
[04:38] <Flannel> daftykins: I'm aware of who I kicked.  A second ops call is unnecessary, as rww was obviously aware of the situation.  I will be talking to him and explaining this as soon as I get the new guy into -ot so he's not being offtopic (I only have two hands).
[04:39] <daftykins> being a regular volunteer should mean you don't get pushed around with a kick when something needs explaining
[04:39] <daftykins> perhaps you should reconsider using that as a tactic in future, given it's overly heavy handed
[04:39] <Flannel> daftykins: Actually, it's been pointed out to me that there was no second ops call.  So, I will be explaining my error to cfhowlett once I can.
[04:41] <Flannel> daftykins: However, with regard to your "regular explainer means special privledges", that's absolutely false.  No one has a longer leash than default (although some people do have shorter ones), not even ops.
[04:41] <daftykins> that's a policy mistake
[04:41] <Flannel> But, again, this particular case was an error on my part.  And as soon as we finish this conversation I'll be spending some time talking to cfhowlett about it.
[04:42] <daftykins> looks like he's quit, probably less inclined to want to be somewhere helping when some heavy-handed op likes to kick before thinking
[04:43] <Unit193> Wow, that's...Rich.  He's presuming someone hasn't already spoken to him before too.
[04:43] <Flannel> Just drop it.
[04:45] <Unit193> Heh, of course, nothing to drop.
[19:10] <ikonia> hello Chicken_Wrap
[19:10] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello, ikonia.
[19:10] <ikonia> what's up, how can we help today ?
[19:10] <Chicken_Wrap> Just want to know how I can get unbanned.
[19:10] <ikonia> oh, you're banned, from where ?
[19:10] <Chicken_Wrap> #ubuntu.
[19:10] <ikonia> you appear to be in #ubuntu
[19:11] <k1l> hi Chicken_Wrap
[19:11] <Chicken_Wrap> Yes, but I can't send any messages.
[19:11] <Chicken_Wrap> So I'm assuming that I'm muted or something along those lines.
[19:11] <Chicken_Wrap> hello, k1l.
[19:11] <Chicken_Wrap> *Hello.
[19:11] <k1l> i muted you last time since you did not stop besides beeing asked several times.
[19:11] <ikonia> lets have a look, hang on a moment please
[19:11] <ikonia> ahh k1l knows, I'll leave it to him
[19:11] <Chicken_Wrap> Not stop what?
[19:11] <genii> 70802
[19:11] <k1l> i told you in pm that you are muted and to come here when you want to use #ubuntu in a proper way again.
[19:11] <Chicken_Wrap> yes, but what did I do wrong in #ubuntu?
[19:12] <Chicken_Wrap> *Yes.
[19:12] <k1l> Chicken_Wrap: some users were making drama about warez. all were asked to stop several times. then you jumped the train and started again with that topic
[19:13] <Chicken_Wrap> I didn't get the memo. And I only asked for a definition.
[19:14] <k1l> #ubuntu is for technical ubuntu support only. we cant have regular chat in there. with 1800 users no support would be possible then
[19:14] <Chicken_Wrap> Fair enough.
[19:14] <k1l> Chicken_Wrap: and you did get the memo. it was 3-4 minutes 3 ops asking the people to stop.
[19:15] <k1l> (and muting other users as well)
[19:15] <Chicken_Wrap> k1l: I saw someone was banned, so I checked who was banned and what he/she had said.
[19:15] <Chicken_Wrap> Seeing that he/she brought up warez, I asked for what it meant from there.
[19:15] <Chicken_Wrap> I wasn't paying attention to the general chatter.
[19:16] <k1l> !guidelines
[19:16] <k1l> please make sure to read the guidelines. #ubuntu is really focused on support only. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the other chat (like what warez is as a definition)
[19:17] <Chicken_Wrap> So it's 100% zero chatter unrelated to Ubuntu?
[19:18] <k1l> for chatter we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:18] <Chicken_Wrap> Alright. Thanks for your time.
[19:18] <k1l> so if you read the guidelines and think you can follow them in future i can remove the mute.
[21:07] <Pici> honk
[21:28] <Myrtti> toot