| * diddledan bounces | 01:43 | |
| * zmoylan-pi listens to podcasts | 01:44 | |
| daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/s/wkm80hiea11nwyw/Upload%20Studio.mp4?dl=0 | 01:48 |
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| daftykins | i just skipped a big boss in Halo 5 by jumping right by o0 | 01:48 |
| knightwise | morning everyone | 08:05 |
| daftykins | gm o/ | 08:06 |
| * zmoylan-pi looks out internet window and calls the day a loss... http://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar | 08:08 | |
| daftykins | they've still got their decorations up! | 08:10 |
| zmoylan-pi | yeah. a bit sad that | 08:10 |
| knightwise | pulled down the very last of ours last night. | 08:11 |
| Myrtti | I've been feeling a bit poorly so ours are still up. | 08:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | well if a pub in ireland can leave them up this late... :-) | 08:15 |
| * zmoylan-pi goes to seek life giving porridge... | 08:18 | |
| daftykins | http://www.nest.gg/webcams/webcam.html | 08:18 |
| daftykins | yay lots of blown over cameras at funny angles :) | 08:19 |
| SuperMatt | happy "try not to get ill" day | 08:21 |
| zmoylan-pi | they're art installations :-P | 08:21 |
| knightwise | man .. these are one of the most depressing webcams ... ever | 08:22 |
| daftykins | knightwise: which? | 08:24 |
| knightwise | pretty much all of them ? | 08:29 |
| knightwise | or is that just ireland in winter , | 08:29 |
| daftykins | if you mean my link that's right now on a very storm swept Guernsey | 08:30 |
| zmoylan-pi | here's a calm dun laoire harbour... http://dlharbour.ie/weather/ | 08:31 |
| === MooDoo_ is now known as MooDoo | ||
| MooDoo | morning all | 09:04 |
| knightwise | hey MooDoo | 09:06 |
| MooDoo | howdy knightwise how are you? | 09:18 |
| daftykins | o/ | 09:20 |
| knightwise | doing ok MooDoo . another semi boring day at the client :) | 09:20 |
| MooDoo | booooo | 09:21 |
| * daftykins debates trading days | 09:21 | |
| zmoylan-pi | better than an exciting day with servers exploding like a star trek bridge set :-) | 09:21 |
| daftykins | oof that sausage roll and chocolate torsade from Pasty Presto just formed a great weight :> | 09:22 |
| * MooDoo wants to go home and sleep | 09:22 | |
| daftykins | zmoylan-pi: funny you say that! i need to pop somewhere and find out why one hasn't come back after a power cut | 09:22 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: THAT I would love to see some day | 09:23 |
| knightwise | hmm.. gotta look into finding some custom firmware for my ebook reader tonight. | 09:23 |
| daftykins | o0 | 09:23 |
| zmoylan-pi | i did have one pc explode while my head was beside it as i turned it on... | 09:23 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: whowh :) | 09:23 |
| daftykins | how long did it take the ringing in the ears to subside? | 09:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | luckily i hang around cats so by the time it exploded i was under the table huddled for safety | 09:24 |
| zmoylan-pi | about 2-3 minutes of ringing ears and flash distorted vision | 09:25 |
| daftykins | cor! | 09:25 |
| zmoylan-pi | then i could hear all the burglar alarms and see all the buildings on industrial estate without power | 09:26 |
| daftykins | interesting superpower ;) | 09:26 |
| zmoylan-pi | building was surrounded on 2 sides by big office blocks all lights out | 09:27 |
| zmoylan-pi | one of them was ms so it wasn't all bad :-P | 09:30 |
| daftykins | there's something that makes me laugh about the #ubuntu guy who got some malware up on google chrome, which made popups appear saying he needed to contact 'Windows support' | 09:37 |
| MooDoo | lol | 09:45 |
| knightwise | Playing with RTV, great command line client :) | 09:58 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Poetry At Work Day! 😃 | 09:59 |
| zmoylan-pi | roses are red... violets are blue... keep this up... and we'll kidnap your gnu... | 10:00 |
| JamesTait | 🙌 Very good, zmoylan-pi! | 10:02 |
| JamesTait | Today is Tuesday, It's Poetry At Work Day, This makes me happy. | 10:02 |
| * zmoylan-pi looks up recipes for gnu... | 10:03 | |
| knightwise | "For My love is true", the Stapler denotes .. his undying love for the post it notes ... | 10:06 |
| knightwise | #workpoetry | 10:06 |
| * zmoylan-pi gets my copy of vogon poetry out of the locked box... | 10:08 | |
| ujjain | what does * * * every line during a traceroute mean? firewall is fine, but all network traffic is timing out between 2 locations | 10:08 |
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:09 |
| knightwise | zmoylan-pi: don"t you dare ! | 10:10 |
| knightwise | hey brobostigon | 10:10 |
| brobostigon | hi knightwise | 10:10 |
| JamesTait | ujjain, * * * means you got no ICMP reply from the node. | 10:12 |
| foobarry | !ping | 12:33 |
| lubotu3 | pong! | 12:33 |
| MooDoo | no one here but us chickens! | 12:36 |
| knightwise | pang | 12:49 |
| diddledan | !ding | 12:52 |
| lubotu3 | dong | 12:52 |
| bigcalm | !sing | 13:01 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 13:01 |
| diddledan | ding dong the b*t*h is dead | 13:03 |
| foobarry | mmmm jelly snakes | 13:04 |
| RMJ | afternoon all, was wondering if anyone has a few minutes to advise on ubuntu compatability with UK-available laptops? Having a nightmare with one I bought last year and really don't want to repeat the same issues with a new one | 13:15 |
| Myrtti | what kind of laptop are you looking for, and what did you get last year? | 13:15 |
| RMJ | Thanks Myrtti - I bought a Lenovo Yoga last year (intel pentium bay trail) and it's been truly awful with linux, i'm looking for something small and cheap, even something like a chrombook/cloudbook sort of thing. Since 15.10 seems to be showing a lot of problems with bay trail processors though and almost every small cheap notebook seems to have o | 13:16 |
| RMJ | ne | 13:16 |
| Myrtti | so what's your budget? | 13:16 |
| Myrtti | both "hopeful" and "not past this number" estimates are helpful | 13:17 |
| RMJ | cheap as possible, less than £300, only looking for a <13in screen | 13:17 |
| Myrtti | right | 13:17 |
| Myrtti | I personally don't look for laptops under 850, so I've no idea. Chromebooks were at one point possible to upgrade into using real Linux, but I haven't looked at that side since I got my 2014 Dell XPS13 | 13:20 |
| foobarry | do you still have the yoga? | 13:21 |
| RMJ | or am I asking the impossible here? I figured a chromebook should have excellent linux compatibility, obviously, but since 15.1 this bay trail bug worries me | 13:21 |
| foobarry | any links to more info about the bay trail bug? | 13:21 |
| RMJ | yeah still got it, but its not booting atm - boots fsck then hangs | 13:21 |
| RMJ | there's a few on askubuntu where people with similar processors seem to be having the same problem - usually with acers, Im guessing its a bay trail thing but not 100% sure. The system randomly (no matter what applications are open) freezes completely - no mouse/keyboard response, can only be hard reset by holding power key. Sometimes happens after | 13:23 |
| RMJ | 10 minutes, sometimes works fine for hour. Doesn't write anything to the syslog. | 13:23 |
| foobarry | sometimes this is an ACPI thing | 13:24 |
| foobarry | kernel options required at boot | 13:24 |
| foobarry | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HP_Chromebook_14 | 13:24 |
| foobarry | might be of interest | 13:24 |
| RMJ | could be, had a catalogue of ACPI issues with it - one fix I've tried has been changing the grub settings but it developed another problem before I had chance to test it thoroughly (there's no way I can find to trigger the bug so just have to see if it happens) | 13:25 |
| foobarry | RMJ, any BIOS updates? | 13:25 |
| RMJ | not sure actually, probably worth checking that out if the thing ever boots | 13:26 |
| RMJ | not the only issues i've had with it though - appalling wifi, no bluetooth, touchscreen works sporadically (not a huge loss) | 13:27 |
| RMJ | touchpad issues etc etc etc | 13:27 |
| RMJ | not ubuntu's fault, just v. frustrating | 13:30 |
| RMJ | http://askubuntu.com/questions/690416/ubuntu-15-10-freeze-on-acer-e11-bay-trail-cpu | 13:32 |
| foobarry | https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109051 | 13:33 |
| lubotu3 | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 109051 in intel_idle "intel_idle.max_cstate=1 required on baytrail to prevent crashes" [Normal,New] | 13:33 |
| foobarry | some info on there | 13:34 |
| RMJ | excellent, the fix will work if it ever boots then :) | 13:34 |
| foobarry | your mileage may vary | 13:34 |
| foobarry | the comments are variable | 13:34 |
| RMJ | at the moment it freezes on boot with an fsck readout so we will never know :P | 13:35 |
| RMJ | thanks all for input | 13:41 |
| foobarry | you can edit grub options :D | 13:42 |
| RMJ | found a bios update (had to do it through windows though) | 13:44 |
| RMJ | foobarry - added the line to grub config last night and it seemed to work (we will see). The not booting is a separate issue, no idea why its broken now | 13:46 |
| foobarry | if you can upload a pic of the screen, it may enlighten a little | 13:46 |
| foobarry | getting your laptop fixed is better than buying a new one :D | 13:47 |
| RMJ | black screen reading "fsck from util-linux 2.26.2 /dev/sda9: clean....." then a load of numbers for files and blocks | 13:47 |
| RMJ | after the ubuntu loading/splash screen, then nothing, it just hangs on the fsck screen | 13:49 |
| foobarry | using RAID? | 13:52 |
| RMJ | no | 13:52 |
| foobarry | try booting an older kernel from grub? | 13:53 |
| RMJ | tried that, didn't make a difference | 13:53 |
| foobarry | nvidia card? | 13:54 |
| RMJ | think its intel onboard | 13:54 |
| foobarry | worth checking the settings in bios | 13:54 |
| RMJ | tried to change display manager from lightdm to gdm, which is why i restarted, but can't imagine it making it do this | 13:55 |
| foobarry | ctrl-C do anything? | 13:55 |
| foobarry | or boot single mode | 13:55 |
| RMJ | no, and doesn't seem to cancel the filesystem check either (maybe the window to press it in is really small?) | 13:55 |
| RMJ | single mode? | 13:56 |
| foobarry | add the word single to the end of the grub options | 13:56 |
| foobarry | http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub | 13:56 |
| RMJ | one sec need to work out how to edit grub config | 14:01 |
| RMJ | in recovery mode | 14:01 |
| RMJ | k done | 14:04 |
| foobarry | you get a prompt? | 14:04 |
| foobarry | maybe try fsck of your disk or revert some changes you recently made | 14:05 |
| RMJ | doesn't seem to be doing anything, just a purpleish screen | 14:05 |
| RMJ | trying again, might have made a mistake | 14:06 |
| RMJ | yeah got a prompt | 14:06 |
| RMJ | emergency mode, sounds exciting | 14:07 |
| RMJ | some progress anyway. thanks foobarry | 14:13 |
| foobarry | no prob | 14:16 |
| RMJ | ooh it just booted to a tty | 14:16 |
| RMJ | having done a umount then fsck with 1 fix | 14:17 |
| RMJ | ah so i can load a tty from the fsck but it won't load lightdm | 14:22 |
| RMJ | sod it. reinstall. | 14:26 |
| foobarry | anyone used mosh? | 15:20 |
| foobarry | http://mosh.mit.edu | 15:20 |
| Azelphur | foobarry: I have | 15:29 |
| Myrtti | I tried, found it confusing and frustrating, and stopped | 15:30 |
| foobarry | oh | 15:30 |
| Azelphur | didn't really confuse me, worked well with my android phone | 15:31 |
| Azelphur | Mixed reviews, I guess :) | 15:31 |
| Myrtti | oh bother, just remembered I need to cook | 15:31 |
| Myrtti | was ready for a nap | 15:31 |
| Myrtti | boo | 15:31 |
| foobarry | user is requesting i install it | 15:31 |
| Azelphur | foobarry: I would, it's entirely optional and can't really do any harm to you | 15:32 |
| foobarry | i need to open some ports | 15:32 |
| foobarry | the security scares me a bit | 15:35 |
| foobarry | changing IP addresses | 15:35 |
| foobarry | roaming users | 15:35 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest23862 | ||
| Azelphur | Bought a DisplayPort to HDMI cable, pavucontrol doesn't show any audio device. Any ideas? | 17:55 |
| daftykins | ugh such adapting can be wonky even on Windows :P | 17:56 |
| Azelphur | computer only has displayport | 17:56 |
| Azelphur | (and VGA) | 17:57 |
| daftykins | laptop or something? so miniDP? | 17:57 |
| Azelphur | it's a Dell PowerEdge | 17:57 |
| Azelphur | (home server type thing) | 17:57 |
| daftykins | any links / model ? | 17:57 |
| daftykins | back shortly | 17:57 |
| Azelphur | PowerEdge T20 | 17:58 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| daftykins | Azelphur: any sign of your adapter being a 19 pin one? | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | daftykins, I should take it out and send you a photo? | 18:10 |
| daftykins | nah i won't have a clue visually, just what the packaging might infer | 18:10 |
| Azelphur | don't have the packaging sadly | 18:11 |
| daftykins | any text on the cable sheathing? | 18:11 |
| Azelphur | daftykins, just says "High speed cable" | 18:15 |
| daftykins | is it a xeon in that thing? | 18:15 |
| Azelphur | yes | 18:15 |
| daftykins | can you share a "grep -i model /proc/cpuinfo" ? just one line though naturally :> | 18:15 |
| Azelphur | model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1225 v3 @ 3.20GHz | 18:16 |
| daftykins | hmm not quite the same model but - https://communities.intel.com/thread/48407?start=0&tstart=0 | 18:16 |
| daftykins | "Engineering has said they will not be developing drivers to make this work." | 18:16 |
| daftykins | i'm sure that's Windows talk, but still pretty damning | 18:17 |
| popey | Azelphur, "pactl list" - what does that show (pastebin?) | 18:18 |
| Azelphur | popey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14479595/ | 18:19 |
| popey | ta | 18:19 |
| popey | no hdmi, chances are the sound isn't wired up to the displayport? | 18:19 |
| Azelphur | popey, wired up? | 18:19 |
| daftykins | or it's not getting told the device at the other end is capable | 18:19 |
| popey | internally | 18:19 |
| Azelphur | oh, ie a motherboard issue | 18:20 |
| popey | nah, it would show up whether plugged in or not | 18:20 |
| Azelphur | could be | 18:20 |
| popey | e.g. my laptop shows up two of them, because it's in a docking station, one port on laptop, one port on docking station | 18:20 |
| popey | despite only one being connected to a display | 18:20 |
| Azelphur | kinda a letdown | 18:21 |
| daftykins | actually, maybe it wouldn't hurt to check if all 19 pins are there on the HDMI end | 18:21 |
| daftykins | probably unlikely it isn't though! | 18:21 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/14479609/ | 18:21 |
| popey | thats my laptop | 18:21 |
| daftykins | Azelphur: how'd you obtain such a niche type of device o0 | 18:21 |
| popey | Notice the alsa.mixer.name "Intel CougarPoint HDMI" | 18:22 |
| popey | Azelphur, do you have a fairly standard kernel? So it would detect all the right devices? | 18:23 |
| daftykins | http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8801-ts140-audio-issues/#entry94967 | 18:24 |
| popey | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) | 18:24 |
| popey | do you have a similar type of thing in lspci | 18:24 |
| popey | (e.g. in my pactl output there's the device.vendor.id and device.product.id which match the output in lspci -n) | 18:24 |
| popey | i.e. do you have any audio controllers in lspci | 18:25 |
| Azelphur | popey, yea it's a standard 15.10 kernel | 18:26 |
| Azelphur | daftykins, looks like me | 18:27 |
| popey | So yes, not wired up internally. | 18:32 |
| popey | Not surprising on that class of device. | 18:32 |
| Azelphur | yea indeed, not surprising | 18:32 |
| Azelphur | shame but not the end of the world | 18:32 |
| popey | can always stick a usb sound card in if you need to | 18:35 |
| Azelphur | well it has 3.5mm out | 18:36 |
| popey | http://www.amazon.co.uk/kwmobile-adapter-converter-stereo-conection/dp/B013V21KNO | 18:37 |
| popey | get a thing like that, which lets you inject audio into the hdmi signal | 18:38 |
| popey | At least I think that's what it does :D | 18:38 |
| Azelphur | popey, nice gadget | 18:40 |
| daftykins | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/12/microsofts_get_windows_10_nagware_is_showing_signs_of_sentience/ | 18:50 |
| diddledan | daftykins: lol | 18:54 |
| diddledan | yey for green goo | 18:54 |
| diddledan | oh, it's grey? | 18:54 |
| diddledan | that's less fun | 18:55 |
| daftykins | the truth is out there, find out on the 24th when Mulder and Scully return :O | 18:55 |
| diddledan | \o/ | 18:55 |
| * diddledan hums the theme | 18:55 | |
| daftykins | or maybe 25th timezones considered | 18:55 |
| daftykins | aww it's totally more of a whistle ;) | 18:55 |
| diddledan | my windows preview status seems to be broken :-( | 18:56 |
| daftykins | i wiped mine to play with Hyper-V a while ago | 18:56 |
| diddledan | I got hyper-v in the same system 'cos it's a pro version | 18:57 |
| diddledan | windows update reports "Your preview build settings need attention. Go to Advanced options to fix this issue." | 18:58 |
| daftykins | i needed to test a proper dedi-host setup | 18:58 |
| daftykins | with SCVMM and all that mess :) | 18:59 |
| diddledan | doing so seems to do nothing, tell me to reboot and then it's back in the same state again after the restart | 18:59 |
| diddledan | oh yeah, that thing | 18:59 |
| daftykins | maybe nuke your %windir%\SoftwareDistribution\ ? :> | 18:59 |
| diddledan | is that safe? | 18:59 |
| daftykins | of course, 'tis the WU woes standard procedure | 19:00 |
| daftykins | stop the WU service first though | 19:00 |
| diddledan | WU otherwise works fine tho | 19:01 |
| daftykins | ah well | 19:01 |
| diddledan | seems it's a common problem: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_install/your-security-settings-need-attention-to-get/9b3f4512-9177-48dc-921b-a70da1b04193?auth=1 | 19:02 |
| diddledan | ok, I think that might have fixed it - turn-off insider completely, then do the registry tweek from that link, and finally enable insider again and reboob | 19:09 |
| diddledan | nope, that didn't work | 19:09 |
| diddledan | oh, maybe it did | 19:11 |
| diddledan | it's fixed now after running their "fix me" a second time - so the steps above, then when it moans after the reboob do their automatic fix and then follow the prompt to reboob again and THEN it's fixed...maybe | 19:12 |
| diddledan | and now it's offering me a pukka insider build for install \o/ | 19:13 |
| diddledan | 11082 | 19:13 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest97954 | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
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