[00:06] <bluesabre> knome, ochosi: poke if either of you appear.... would you like to also drop albatross and bluebird from the shimmer-themes package at this time?
[07:33] <flocculant> bluesabre: mmm seems so - didn't get much further than installing it twice last night
[07:51] <flocculant> bluesabre: funnily vbox sees it with just a reboot, hardware I actually had to login/out/reboot to see something 
[08:35] <Akxwi-dave> flocculant, regarding the black screen at login on yesterday's iso..  I'm getting a normal background, BUT if i swap to guest account, then the screen goes black.. still happening if i login in as a user, and log back out..
[11:14] <bluesabre> flocculant, Akxwi-dave: So, based on that, I think there might be an issue with the greeter seeing the default wallpaper. It seems to have no issue with ones set by accounts service (where a user has logged in and accounts service has had a chance to save the config)
[12:57] <flocculant> bluesabre: sounds logical
[13:06] <Akxwi-dave> bluesabre, flocculant : I agree... especially as just installed todays build and on initial boot before the first login to installed system, the background is black, after that initial login users background is shown. After relogin as guest it stays black (i am assuming as guest login doesn't save any configs etc)
[13:07] <flocculant> Akxwi-dave: k - just doing that here too
[13:07] <Akxwi-dave> :-)
[13:07] <Akxwi-dave> has it been logged as a bug yet?
[13:08] <flocculant> must say I've not looked at images for a week or so, not sure when this happened
[13:08] <flocculant> I've not reported it yet - wanted to double check it was just us, then no idea what package to report against either - greeter I guess
[13:15] <bluesabre> lightdm-gtk-greeter
[13:15] <bluesabre> (please)
[13:15] <Akxwi-dave> I only noticed it yesterday..
[13:15] <Akxwi-dave> will do
[13:15] <flocculant> bluesabre: ok - just booting the installed vm now will report it from there
[13:15] <flocculant> apport fails against lightdm-gtk-greeter :(
[13:15] <flocculant> nmv - tab complete caught up at the wrong time ... 
[13:15] <Akxwi-dave> ahh talking of apport, are you getting a blueman-apport crash?
[13:15] <flocculant> yea 
[13:15] <flocculant> Akxwi-dave: pretty sure it'll not just be us
[13:17] <flocculant> bluesabre Akxwi-dave bug 1533200
[13:18] <flocculant> bluesabre: I can leave that vm untouched now I reported it if you want anything else from it
[13:18] <Akxwi-dave> cheers.. you beat me too it
[13:25] <flocculant> bbl
[14:41] <Girish> I downloaded the daily image of Xubuntu AMD64. When I'm trying to run it in Virtual Box I'm getting the error 'Booting Kernal failed. Invalid Argument'
[14:47] <Akxwi-dave> Girish, Do you have the virualization turned on in your bios?  if not it will only let you create 32bit VM's
[14:47] <Girish> Akxwi-dave: I've virtualised before this. So I guess yeah it's turned on.
[14:49] <Akxwi-dave> Girish, :-) well it cant be that problem then...
[14:52] <Girish> Yeah.
[14:52] <Akxwi-dave> Sorry can't help on that further at mo..I don't have access to a 64bit machine at this time... 
[17:21] <flocculant> Girish: run the vm in vbox - screenshot the error message - thanks
[19:04] <ochosi> evening all
[19:28] <duress> Girish: if you do not mind me asking, did you checksum ? 
[19:33] <Unit193> bluesabre: So, see #xfce-dev?
[20:06] <flocculant> evening ochosi 
[21:01] <ochosi> Unit193: heya, you up for some packaging work?
[21:01] <Unit193> ...This sounds like an awful trick question. >_>
[21:01] <ochosi> ...Could be cause it is..? *_*
[21:02] <ochosi> i'
[21:02] <ochosi> ll send you a link
[21:02] <ochosi> then you can decice
[21:02] <ochosi> or decide even
[21:04] <ochosi> https://github.com/shimmerproject/pidgin-elementary
[21:04] <ochosi> since you said you might be motivated to extract the elementary stuff from xubuntu-artwork, you might not want to have that there to begin with
[21:05] <ochosi> ideally it
[21:05] <ochosi> 'd be a new pkg imo
[21:05] <ochosi> but if we don't find the time, we can always push it in -artwork
[21:06] <Unit193> Heh, in some form or another I already did extract things into elementary-themes, or whatever it's called.
[21:07] <ochosi> i see i see
[21:07] <ochosi> well i presumed the hard part would be to get the new package accepted in ubuntu (or even debian), not the technical part of *actually* packaging it ;)
[21:08] <Unit193> Quite so.
[21:09] <ochosi> would you be up for that?
[21:10] <ochosi> thing is atm i can't really help much with the poking as i'm not that available during the day
[21:11] <Unit193> If it's meant for going in, can you tag a release (or are we testing first?)
[21:12] <ochosi> ideally we'd be trying it
[21:13] <ochosi> also, the make stuff for the package would have to include svntopng, like xubuntu-artwork
[21:13] <ochosi> not even sure pidgin handles svg
[21:15] <ochosi> i'd prefer with a package in staging
[21:15] <ochosi> as soon as that works okay, i'd go for realz
[21:15] <ochosi> i can generally tag a release anytime, i'd just probably add the 24px versions to prevent too much icon-scaling and fuzziness
[21:16] <Unit193> Welp, this sounds like "fun"...
[21:17] <ochosi> :>
[21:17] <ochosi> well as i said, we can always stuff it in xubuntu-artwork
[21:27] <Unit193> Think it makes more sense to either move things now, or add that in.  Granted if you add it in that makes more for transitioning later, but it's an LTS so "break less" is generally to motto. :P
[21:29] <ochosi> yeah, i'd say that depends on your motivation
[21:29] <Unit193> Well this and the svg2png doesn't look fun. >:D
[21:29] <Unit193> ochosi: I poked bluesabre, but see #xfce-dev scrollback?
[21:30] <ochosi> i guess the svg2png part is just copy-pasting
[21:31] <ochosi> oh, i was totally unaware of that calculator...
[21:32] <ochosi> or were you referring to the xfdashboard part?
[21:33] <Unit193> Yeah.
[21:33] <ochosi> right
[21:33] <ochosi> well i don't have the feeling it's half as unmaintained as the rest of xfce >:D
[21:34] <knome> huhu
[21:34] <knome> ochosi, you should hope ofourdan is not reading the logs for this channel
[21:34] <knome> :P
[21:34] <ochosi> right, that is precisely why i repeated it in #xfce-dev
[21:35] <knome> ;)
[21:35] <Unit193> ochosi: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=pkg-xfce-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org that's a lot of freaking bugs.
[21:40] <ochosi> right, but there are even lightdm bugs, not sure why exactly
[21:41] <Unit193> pkg-xfce maintains it.
[21:42] <ochosi> right
[21:42] <Unit193> ochosi: Anywho, point being it's not making it into Debian any time soon, time to get it into Ubuntu?
[21:46] <ochosi> sure
[21:52] <ochosi> alright, two icons to go and then v0.1 would be ready
[21:52] <ochosi> i guess some icons will need more tweaking, but that's for v0.2
[22:02] <ochosi> Unit193: https://github.com/shimmerproject/pidgin-elementary/releases/tag/v0.1
[22:04] <ochosi> also, bluesabre ˆ
[22:14] <ochosi> bbabl
[22:38] <bluesabre> ochosi: nice
[22:41] <bluesabre> evening all
[22:41] <knome> hello bluesabre 
[22:42] <bluesabre> hiya knome 
[22:42] <knome> how's the wallpaper contest webapp coming up?
[22:44] <bluesabre> every time I start on that, something comes up.  I just need to figure out launchpad/uo auth and I should be able to take submissions
[22:44] <knome> :)
[22:57] <ochosi> so just a quick update on that: pidgin does *not* support svg icon themes, so we definitely have to convert to png
[22:57] <ochosi> i guess the best way is to do it in the packaging scripts
[22:58] <ochosi> bluesabre: any comment from your side on getting this in xubuntu-artwork vs. creating a new separate package?
[22:59] <Unit193> xubuntu-icon-theme, libreoffice-style-elementary are elementary too.
[23:01] <ochosi> anyway, i gotta leave you to yourselves with this, gotta get some sleep
[23:01] <ochosi> night y'all
[23:01] <knome> good night ochosi 
[23:02] <bluesabre> nighty ochosi 
[23:02] <bluesabre> I don't have a strong opinion, other than lo-style-elementary will be part of the libreoffice source package at some point
[23:03] <bluesabre> maybe its time to rename some packages
[23:03] <bluesabre> so that there is elementary-xfce-icon-theme (or elementary-icon-theme-xfce), pidgin-elementary-theme, etc
[23:04] <bluesabre> part of this would be making sure we don't step on elementary's packaging toes (if we're nice folks, which we are)
[23:08] <bluesabre> in the end, adding it to the xubuntu-artwork source package would be easiest and require the least red tape to cut through
[23:12] <bluesabre> Unit193: thoughts?
[23:12] <bluesabre> going out for food now, bbabl
[23:12] <Unit193> I'm hungry.