[00:05] <nicols> hello :) ... vlc update: it runs ok when i use custom skin. when i use native mode, video is croped, only top left corner is shown
[00:07] <nicols> plasma continues to crash. it is not the uopdate crash, it has something to do with libQt5Qml.so.5 --- BUT!!!! when i try to report bug, drkonqi crashes :(
[00:08] <valorie> hmmm, all good here so far
[00:14] <valorie> nicols: 
 if nicols comes back, this bug needs to be reported and investigated
[00:14] <valorie> [Tuesday, January 12, 2016] [3:17:41 PM PST] <ovidiu-florin> if it's still happening in 5.5.3
[00:14] <valorie> you can just post to bugs.kde.org without dr.K, but of course it's better to have the crash info
[00:15] <valorie> oh, that was about vlc, maybe?
[00:15] <nicols> valorie: which bug? vlc or libQt5Qml.so.5 ? :D
[00:15] <valorie> ovidiu-florin also asked you about whether or not it happened in dragonplayer
[00:15] <valorie> vlc bug
[00:15] <valorie> which seems to be a plasma bug
[00:16] <sgclark> nicols: plasma crashes should have a pop up window to report the crash?
[00:16] <valorie> for both bugs though, it would be good to talk to the plasma devels in #plasma
[00:16] <nicols> cannot report vlc ... i don't have anything, no errors, no crashes just cropped video
[00:17] <sgclark> well probably not the vlc bug, but yeah the plasma one they would be of more help
[00:17] <valorie> that's a bug, whether or not it crashes
[00:17] <nicols> plasma crashes due to libQt5Qml ... ok, i will report this manually
[00:17] <sgclark> thanks
[00:18] <valorie> thanks for reporting, nicols
[00:26] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[00:27] <_Groo_> so im working on zanshin 0.3.0
[00:27] <_Groo_> should i open a bug or something?
[00:27] <sgclark> howdy
[00:27] <_Groo_> or add it to trello (dont even know if i have write privileges)
[00:28] <sgclark> sure, make a new package one? dunno if yofel is still awake
[00:29] <_Groo_> sgclark: ill make it and add it to oneof my ppas
[00:29] <_Groo_> sgclark: doing wily, should i do xenial too?
[00:30] <sgclark> yes we are in in a xenial -> wily state. xenial first then backport please _Groo_
[00:30] <valorie> _Groo_: if you need more on trello, speak up and I'll add you
[00:31] <valorie> !info zanshin
[00:31] <valorie> !info zanshin xenial
[00:31] <_Groo_> sgclark: k, i cant create an item in the doing board in trello
[00:31] <valorie> what is your login?
[00:31] <_Groo_> so, ill just inform it here
[00:31] <_Groo_> valorie: Paulo Dias
[00:31] <valorie> please, I'll add you
[00:33] <valorie> added
[00:33] <valorie> looks like you have more than one login there
[00:33] <valorie> I'll add another if that doesn't work
[00:33] <valorie> _Groo_: ^^^
[00:34] <ahoneybun> there are a lot of users with that name
[00:34] <ahoneybun> would be easier with a email or the username
[00:35] <valorie> they are probably all him
[00:35] <_Groo_> i created a login with google
[00:35] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[00:35] <_Groo_> but if im not mistaken i add an old login
[00:35] <_Groo_> but its all the same mail
[00:36] <valorie> _Groo_: you can merge all the old ones in I think
[00:36] <valorie> makes it easier
[00:36] <ahoneybun> heyo valorie, sgclark and _Groo_ 
[00:36] <_Groo_> i only see the paulo5 one
[00:36] <_Groo_> how do i see the old ones?
[00:36] <valorie> cool
[00:36] <valorie> unsure
[00:36] <sgclark> hi ahoneybun
[00:37] <_Groo_> how do i add a card to the doing board?
[00:37] <valorie> this shows to me as Paulo Diaas
[00:37] <_Groo_> right now i see: Paulo Dias (paulodias5)
[00:37] <_Groo_> when i click my account
[00:38] <valorie> shouldn't it be added to https://trello.com/c/Spsqflv0/63-packaging ?
[00:38] <_Groo_> i dont know,no one bothers in teaching me the proper flux!
[00:38] <_Groo_> shame
[00:38] <_Groo_> shame
[00:38] <_Groo_> shame!
[00:38] <valorie> _Groo_: what is your email?
[00:39] <valorie> I'll add that way
[00:39] <nicols> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357908
[00:39] <_Groo_> oh nice they just released zanshin 0.3.1
[00:40] <_Groo_> nicols: they arent that random
[00:40] <_Groo_> nicols: i tracked them down to the updates and weather widgets
[00:40] <nicols> how to report this wierd stuff with vlc? in which category?
[00:40] <_Groo_> every time the update kicks in, plasma crashes
[00:41] <valorie> nicols: I would ask in #plasma
[00:41] <_Groo_> 2016 and kde still didnt implemented containments in widgets :(
[00:41] <valorie> they might know underlaying cause
[00:41] <nicols> _Groo_: 357908 have nothing to do with update
[00:41] <_Groo_> nicols: disable updated in systray
[00:42] <_Groo_> nicols: see if that stops the crashes
[00:42] <_Groo_> nicols: deleting .cache and recreating the plasma and systray rc files helps too
[00:43] <nicols> _Groo_: I KNOW ABOUT UPDATES CRASHES. THIS IS NOT IT!
[00:44] <valorie> woah, shouting now needed
[00:44] <valorie> not
[00:44] <_Groo_> nicols: i was just trying to help, nvm me then
[00:44] <nicols> i said three times that it is diferent thing
[00:45] <nicols> you are not listening
[00:45]  * _Groo_ goes eat dinner...
[00:45] <nicols> sorry for shouting, didn't mean to be rude
[00:45] <valorie> _Groo_: can you explain what you mean by containments in widgets?
[00:45] <valorie> oops, eat well
[00:46] <nicols> it just happened again: http://pastebin.com/yFxa8pgB
[00:46] <valorie> nicols: and still no dr konqui?
[00:47] <valorie> again, I would talk to the devels in #plasma
[00:47] <valorie> although it's getting sorta late
[00:49] <ahoneybun> or early lol
[00:51] <valorie> *very* early
[01:06] <_Groo_> valorie: right now, the widgets run in a thread inside plasmashell
[01:07] <_Groo_> valorie: and if one does bad things it brings plasmashell down with it
[01:07] <_Groo_> valorie: the idea would be to run the widgets inside their little "contained" vm , if it crashed it would only crash the widget 
[01:08] <sgclark> _Groo_: ahh yes that would be better for sure, have you brought it up with plasma devs?
[01:09] <_Groo_> sgclark: who am i to influence how plasma gets developed
[01:10] <_Groo_> sgclark: im sure they thought about it over all these years
[01:10] <_Groo_> sgclark: plasmashell works internally the same way aseigo envisioned it
[01:10] <sgclark> crash tastic?
[01:10] <_Groo_> sgclark: maybe vms werent feasible back then, or the performance penalty was too high
[01:11] <sgclark> yeah alot has changed..
[01:11] <_Groo_> plasmashell makes me go back to os/2 times.. when the WPS could be killed because of a serialized thread manager
[01:12] <_Groo_> ah those were the days
[01:13] <sgclark> well most of the plasma devs don't bite, seems like it could be suggested.
[01:14] <_Groo_> sgclark: im sure it could ^ 
[01:14] <_Groo_> ^.^
[01:20] <nicols> must go to sleep ......
[01:21] <sgclark> sleep well nicols thanks for the help
[01:21] <nicols> _Groo_: one more time: sorry for shounting :)
[01:22] <nicols> good night everyone!
[01:22] <_Groo_> nicols: someone shouted at me on the internet, my life is ruined
[01:22] <nicols> LOL :)
[01:22] <_Groo_> nicols: you are responsible for the well being of my wife and kids now
[01:22] <_Groo_> nicols: i quit
[01:23] <_Groo_> nicols: life reage quit
[01:23] <_Groo_> rage
[01:23] <nicols> zZzZzZzZzZzZzZzZ .... 
[02:01]  * sgclark out
[02:04] <_Groo_> sgclark: zanshin for xenial done in https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/peppa/+packages
[02:04] <_Groo_> zanshin 0.3.1
[02:06] <sgclark> I am done for the day, hopefully yofel can look at it tommorrow
[02:06] <_Groo_> i added you both to the trello card
[02:06] <_Groo_> dont know if its the proper way to go but...
[02:07] <_Groo_> tomorrow ill backport it to wily, maybe tonight if i dont fall asleep over the laptop
[02:07] <_Groo_> again...
[02:07] <_Groo_> ...
[03:42] <_Groo_> sgclark: can you check when you have some time if sddm kcm is working fine for you? for me the themes tab isnt working, it never refreshes correctly, might need to take a look at that
[05:16] <soee> Apps 15.12.1 have been released :)
[06:03] <valorie> heh, I just ran sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove and plasma crashed instantly
[06:03] <valorie> respawned instantly as well
[06:05] <valorie> it crashed again while installed a debug package
[06:05] <valorie> sort of hilarious, really -- not enough info to file a bug automatically though
[07:38] <soee> yofel: why on status page (http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.12.0_xenial.html) some packages are 15.12.1 and some 15.12.0 ? :)
[07:41] <valorie> soee: as I recall, .1 was released today, so yofel was trying to do the merge and update at the same time for some of them
[07:41] <valorie> that's my guess, anyway
[07:44] <soee> valorie: ok, thank you
[08:57] <yofel> soee_: valorie guessed right
[08:58] <valorie> good, brain still works!
[08:58] <soee_> :)
[08:59] <soee_> yofel: are we ready to put 5.5.3 in Wily backports ?
[08:59] <bshah> hello can some merge master of plasma-discover in kubuntu_unstable?
[09:00] <bshah> (I've no idea how to do it properly)
[09:02] <yofel> bshah: sometime today yes. I guess ximion is done with his rework then?
[09:02] <bshah> Looking at state of master, I think so
[09:03] <bshah> but better confirm with ximion
[09:07] <yofel> soee_: still not quite. I also want to review the merges first
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:59] <mikkle> latest daily image (just downloaded it): installer crashes: any workaround?
[09:59] <mikkle> I don't really want to download another 1GB+ file
[10:03] <lordievader> Crashes how?
[10:13] <mikkle> just like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1530522
[10:14] <mikkle> Also, I thought 16.04 was on plasma 5.5.3, but the daily image shows 5.4.3
[10:14] <lordievader> Oeh, that is nasty.
[10:14] <lordievader> As a workaround you could go with the netinstaller disc.
[10:14] <mikkle> well that means I need to redownload another gb of data
[10:15] <mikkle> but if that's the only option...
[10:16] <mikkle> oh i see in the title of this channel why xenial daily doesn't have plasma 5.5
[10:23] <michelsedgh> hey i just came back from a suspend and all of the apps were fully transparent and hardly readable, is it a known bug?
[11:08] <clivejo> hi soee
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:54] <soee> hiho
[12:20] <clivejo> does the muon-updater crash only happen on debian/apt based systems?
[12:33] <yofel> yes
[12:34] <yofel> more specifically, only us. As we're pretty much left using the qapt backend. It doesn't happen with the PK one, but our packagekit is too old
[13:03] <BluesKaj> setting up fonts or anything else in system settings as root is hopeless, none of the chosen settings are actually applied> I need these settings to work in apps in order to read the toolbars etc on a large monitor
[13:04] <mparillo> "our packagekit"? Do we share that with Ubuntu-Core?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> here's an example http://imagebin.ca/v/2TJn9a4ctb3e
[13:31] <magicmyth> Hello are you still looking for testers of Plasma 5.5.3 for Kubuntu 15.10?
[13:34] <soee_> magicmyth: hiho, yes we do :)
[13:34] <soee_> yofel: backports-landing are ready for tests, nothing changed ?
[13:40] <magicmyth> soee_ Any repo/PPA I should add?
[13:42] <soee_> magicmyth: yes ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
[13:42] <soee_> it contains Plasma 5.5.3 and Frameworks 5.18
[13:43] <magicmyth> Should I have the standard backports PPA repo enabled as well?
[13:44] <soee_> yes you can
[13:45] <soee_> magicmyth: please report back if you had any problems when upgrading or it was smooth
[13:47] <magicmyth> Will do. Going to logout now to run the upgrade which btw, I'm doing via the terminal (apt-get dist-upgrade)
[14:07] <magicmyth> Back again after the uprade. Went smoothly except for one minor niggle. The package manager claimed /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xession had been altered but I definitley never changed that file. Anyway I just had it overwrite with the one from the package.
[14:10] <magicmyth> Actually there was one slightly more worrying issue. After rebooting the system said it was running in "Low graphic mode". It gave me some choices so I choose to use the default settings and Xorg loaded as normal with full Intel accelleration
[14:13] <magicmyth> Plasma has crashed once so far but it cannot find debug symbols for: libQt5Widgets.so.5 and libQt5Core.so.5. Any suggestions on what debug packages I should install to cover those?
[14:28] <soee_> yofel: ^
[14:37] <michelsedgh> this was the third time this happend to me. after i came back from sleep, all my apps were fully transparent, hardly you could read them. i have screenshots. i have never reported any bug so i just said it here. i have found out that when i disable my animations the bug will go :)
[15:04] <soee_> michelsedgh: so it might be relted to you driver
[15:04] <soee_> what gpu you have ?
[15:22] <michelsedgh> soee_: intel hd graphics 5500
[15:23] <michelsedgh> its not graphics driver because i can play dota 2 smoothly with low graphics ( thats the max of hd graphics can handle)
[15:27] <mamarley> Just because the graphics driver performs well doesn't necessarily mean it won't have bugs.
[15:35] <BluesKaj> akregator still doen't launch 
[15:36] <clivejo> BluesKaj: not if you are using apps staging PPA
[15:36] <clivejo> sgclark and yofel are working to try sort out the issues with PIM
[15:37] <BluesKaj>  staging is commented in my sources.list, not using it atm
[15:37] <BluesKaj> clivejo,^
[15:38] <clivejo> but did you remove the broken packages
[15:38] <clivejo> ?
[15:38] <clivejo> I believe akregator is part of Kontact the PIM suite
[15:38] <BluesKaj> not yet, I'll run ppa-purge 
[15:39] <clivejo> and is part of apps 15.12.0
[15:39] <sgclark> it is. I am on older version and it works
[15:40] <sgclark> new pim is still quite a mess
[15:40] <clivejo> sgclark: any progress on kdepim?
[15:40] <clivejo> I cant make head nor tail of it :/
[15:40] <sgclark> nope, still rebuilding. yofel and I am doing the merge + version bump as well while we are at it.
[15:40] <clivejo> its like a plate of spagetti
[15:40] <sgclark> join the club
[15:41] <sgclark> the pim devs decided ABI is nt important
[15:41] <sgclark> not*
[15:41] <clivejo> for who?
[15:41] <clivejo> its imprtant for us :P
[15:41] <sgclark> ?
[15:41] <yofel> well, we *could* work around it
[15:41] <sgclark> ?
[15:42] <yofel> the problem is the question whether we support "partial upgrades", e.g. while we work or while stuff is in proposed
[15:42] <sgclark> well tbh lets finish the merges + bump and if it is still a mess resort to other measures
[15:42] <sgclark> ahh so release everything but pim?
[15:43] <yofel> no, I meant use DebianABIManager and add custom ABI suffixes. 
[15:44] <yofel> still means that we have to rebuild everything, but stuff would at least not break while we do
[15:44] <sgclark> oh.
[15:44] <yofel> has the disadvantage of having to redo all affected symbolfiles
[15:44] <sgclark> try to finish our currrent efforts before doing that ?
[15:44] <bshah> yofel: did yu get around with merge of discover?
[15:45] <yofel> no
[15:45] <yofel> won't happen while I'm still at work, maybe sgclark has time
[15:45] <bshah> (I know anonscm is down, but just wondering)
[15:45] <yofel> again? *sigh*
[15:45] <sgclark> merge what where?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> odd that ppa-purge keeps missing the staging-plasma/ubuntu, can't be found 
[15:46] <clivejo> did you use ppa-add to add it?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> no
[15:47] <soee_> staging-plasma/ubuntu ?
[15:47] <clivejo> soee_: nooooo, dont do it!
[15:47] <yofel> sgclark: merge master into kubuntu_xenial_archive (while keeping backwards compatibility with what's currently there), then merge that into kubuntu_unstable
[15:47] <soee_> clivejo: what ?
[15:48] <clivejo> dont go adding the staging PPA's!
[15:48] <acher88> ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma
[15:48] <soee_> i'm not talking about adding it, just : ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma
[15:48] <soee_> this is valid ppa name 
[15:48] <acher88> worked here
[15:48] <clivejo> soee_: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/
[15:49] <clivejo> soee_: its where we work on it
[15:49] <soee_> clivejo: yes i now all those ppas :)
[15:50] <sgclark> yofel bshah sure I can when debian git is back up
[15:52] <cmakeshift> hello all. I am installing plasma 5.5.3 from backports-landing for testing. I also have kubuntu-backports installed. When plasma lands on backports, will anything break? Will I need to do anything special? 
[15:53] <soee_> no, you should get updated packages from backports ppa than
[15:53] <bshah> sgclark: thanks
[15:53] <soee_> just be sure to remove backportslanding fter tetst
[15:54] <cmakeshift> soee_: remove with ppa-purge, right?
[15:54] <soee_> depends if you want to keep those packages from testing ppa or not
[15:55] <soee_> if you want to remove them - go back to Plasma 5.4.3 - than use ppa-purge
[15:55] <soee_> otherwise: sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
[15:55] <BluesKaj> acher88, ok worked here too...wondered why my command wasn't working ..no need for the "ubuntu' etc
[15:56] <acher88> Nope. The shorthand ppa title is fine
[15:56] <BluesKaj> right thanks
[15:56] <yofel> cmakeshift, soee_: if we move stuff to backports and you were using -landing, then you should get no updates actually. After all it'll be the same packages
[15:57] <acher88> Packages copied over as is then?
[15:57] <acher88> good
[15:59] <yofel> right, otherwise we would have to test them again ^^
[15:59] <cmakeshift_> soee_, yofel: understood, thanks
[16:00] <soee_> cmakeshift_: thanks for helping. tell us how the upgrade was
[16:02] <cmakeshift_> surprising, I am running plasma 5.4 right now, and the update just finished. I was asked if I wanted to keep the new ersion of Xsession, and said yes. The desktop theme refreshed on its own, apparently.
[16:02] <BluesKaj> ok folks what about the CI-stable ppa, is it active or needed for anything now?
[16:02] <cmakeshift_> Now the tasks in the task manager have square borders. And I didn't even restar the session. Impressive.
[16:03] <cmakeshift_> *restart
[16:03] <acher88> Either that or plasma crashed and restarted ;)
[16:03] <mamarley> cmakeshift_: You should go ahead and restart anyway.  Otherwise, stuff is likely to start crashing.
[16:04] <cmakeshift_> acher88: I don't think so, I'd have noticed. It is not at all unusual for me to see that happening, unfortunately. Restarting now.
[16:04] <yofel> BluesKaj: should be active and building e.g. 5.5.3+git
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yofel, ok good , thanks
[16:05] <acher88> Just about to do an upgrade on wily, so shall see....
[16:09] <cmakeshift> restart completed. things of note:
[16:10] <cmakeshift>  - right after the update, plasma degraded horribly, things started disappearing, I couldn't reboot, nor launch any program, and so I couldn't restart plasma from krunner. I had to reboot from the vt
[16:12] <cmakeshift>  - For some reason Fluxbox became my new default session. If I had only KDE installed this shouldn't happen though
[16:13] <sgclark> were there errors in the install? that sounds like something went terribly wrong, and not normal
[16:13] <yofel> for the first thing, maybe we should start mass filing bugs about that. But that's normal sadly
[16:14] <sgclark> sudo apt-get -f install come up with anything?
[16:14] <sgclark> oh raheboot? ye
[16:14] <sgclark> err reboot
[16:14] <yofel> the session switch was probably something in the sddm update. But that really shouldn't happen
[16:14] <yofel> should be fairly easy to reproduce at least
[16:14] <cmakeshift> after restarting, everything seems normal
[16:15] <cmakeshift>  - krunner's "x" icon is invisible for me. I have cleaned the plasma* caches and restarted krunner, to no avail
[16:16] <yofel> ok, that's weird, but you're not the first one with icon issues -.-
[16:18] <cmakeshift> it's not just in krunner, in plasma too. Everywhere an 'x' icon is expected, like in the panel editor or a notification bubble, it's blank
[16:19] <yofel> WFM, so it's at least not a general issue
[16:25] <cmakeshift> other than that, all the rest seems ok. I could nitpick about some upstream design choices like the new shade of blue for the folders, or the harsher plasma shadows, but I don't think this is the place for that. Or is it? :)
[16:32] <acher88> This is the xsession config change I'm getting asked to OK on sddm upgrade
[16:32] <acher88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14488227/
[16:32] <sgclark> cmakeshift: we do not have any control there :( that is kde-vdg
[16:33] <cmakeshift> sgclark: yeah, I thought so. Then again, I agree with most of it. Breeze is looking pretty sharp :D
[16:33]  * yofel wonders why Xsession is marked as edited at all
[16:33] <cmakeshift> shouldn't gtk3-engines-breeze be installed by default?
[16:33] <yofel> that seems to be 100% reproducable, but dunno what would've edited it
[16:34] <yofel> cmakeshift: should yes, but nothing takes care of that
[16:34] <yofel> thanks for reminding me of thta
[16:35] <cmakeshift> yofel: no problem. I saw the diff for the session file, it seemed to be nothing special, but I don't understand most of it anyway
[16:38] <acher88> I accepted the change, but now sddm won't start.
[16:38] <acher88> That is only in a VM though, so wasn't bothered if it broke
[16:41] <yofel> meh, why is that thing so delicate. You're at least the 2nd persion that managed to bust sddm
[16:44] <acher88> That's why I still use lightdm on a real machine
[16:45] <yofel> yeah, but 16.04 is LTS, so this should work better than it actually does :/
[16:45] <clivejo> no pressure yofel :)
[16:46] <yofel> I don't work well without pressure, so you don't want that :P
[16:47] <acher88> It should work better, yes
[16:47] <acher88> I'll quite happily install another DM when something like this breaks, and trundle on without worry
[16:48] <yofel> lightdm is supposed to work anyway, as LTS upgraders might keep that
[16:49] <acher88> Yep
[16:49] <clivejo> fix it
[16:49] <tsdgeos> yofel: any idea when we'll get a new KF5 on xenial?
[16:49] <yofel> we also need to do some actual LTS upgrade testing. I wonder what you actually get when you go from KDE 4.12 -> plasma 5.5
[16:50] <sheytan> Evening! How to help test 5.5?
[16:50] <yofel> tsdgeos: ... soon? We have it done in the PPA, but we have to land FW and plasma at the same time or stuff breaks
[16:50] <tsdgeos> yofel: really? that's weird
[16:50] <tsdgeos> shouldn't be like that 
[16:51] <yofel> tsdgeos: mostly too tight package relationships in plasma packages (e.g. breeze icons breaks breeze)
[16:51] <tsdgeos> ok
[16:51] <cmakeshift> sheytan: are you on 15.10?
[16:52] <sheytan> cmakeshift: yep
[16:52] <sheytan> fully upgraded
[16:52] <cmakeshift> as per instructions on the channel topic, add the ppa kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing
[16:52] <michelsedgh> cmakeshift: is the apt-get update crash fixed? in 16.04? if yes i will update right now :)
[16:53] <yofel> michelsedgh: no
[16:53] <cmakeshift> sheytan: and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:53] <sheytan> cmakeshift: how many % chance i break my kubuntu? :D
[16:54] <cmakeshift> michelsedgh: like yofel said, no. I had to reboot manually from the vt (ctrl+alt+f1 and then ctrl+alt+del)
[16:54] <yofel> sheytan: 0.5% that you get a black screen on reboot. 90% for plasma crashes on checking for updates. 10% for random breakage
[16:55] <sheytan> :D
[16:55] <sheytan> ok, ill try
[16:55] <michelsedgh> yofel: can i update from vt? ( SORRY im a bit noob )
[16:55] <cmakeshift> sheytan: I'd say very unlikely. Expect some minor glitches though
[16:55] <yofel> michelsedgh: as long as you get a network connection, yes
[16:56] <cmakeshift> michelsedgh: absolutely
[16:57] <michelsedgh> ok then going for update, i will tell the result for crashes/bugs :)
[16:58]  * sheytan switches to textmode for upgrade
[17:00] <benjamin_> Hi everybody! I also had the sddm crash after the upgrade to 5.5.3 on 16.04, but I could fix it.
[17:00] <yofel> oh?
[17:00] <clivejo> how did you fix it?
[17:00] <benjamin_> I was using autologin and in /etc/sddm.conf I had an entry Session=PLACEHOLDER
[17:01] <benjamin_> i changed it to Session=plasma.desktop and it worked again
[17:02] <yofel> okay, interesting. That should indeed never, ever, say PLACEHOLDER
[17:02] <benjamin_> i don't know how/when the wrong entry appeared
[17:04] <benjamin_> this segfault has been fixed in sddm master
[17:04] <benjamin_> https://github.com/sddm/sddm/commit/72139f700efc7e7a54c7d7e061f7df157fc39fbf
[17:04] <michelsedgh> guys the dist upgrade needs 40mb of data?!?!
[17:05] <yofel> that doesn't sound right..
[17:05] <yofel> benjamin_: thanks, I'll probably cherry pick that 
[17:06] <benjamin_> welcome. thanks for your packaging work!
[17:06] <yofel> thanks for testing :)
[17:09] <michelsedgh> hey the installation was SMOOTH and no problem at all :)
[17:11] <soee_> yofel: ^
[17:11] <sheytan> Not fan of that new bigger fotn
[17:11] <sheytan> font*
[17:11] <sheytan> why is that?
[17:12] <yofel> you mean Noto?
[17:12] <yofel> I think they switched to it for better character coverage
[17:14] <michelsedgh> yofel: thanks for the hard work :) 
[17:14] <sheytan> that big shadow under panel and tooltips is kubuntu fault or plasma made that stupid change?
[17:14] <yofel> michelsedgh: thanks for testing
[17:15] <michelsedgh> youre welcome :) 
[17:15] <yofel> I'm fairly certain that's plasma. As are the new panel colors and borders
[17:16] <sheytan> but that shadow should be more transparent :(
[17:16] <sheytan> it looks shitty now ;/
[17:18] <Sho_> take a screenshot
[17:18] <yofel> bbl
[17:19] <sheytan> Sho_: http://imgur.com/EdQ9yPa
[17:19] <sheytan> i really am thankful for what you do
[17:19] <Sho_> yeah, looks normal
[17:19] <sheytan> but the shadow was fine
[17:20] <sheytan> looks less transparet to 5.4
[17:20] <sheytan> and is a bit to 'short' i would say
[17:34] <sheytan> btw, why is the kmail icon not upgraded to breeze? I mean it's in the set of icons but my system displays the old one
[18:14] <sheytan> yofel http://i.imgur.com/NkSXcyt.png
[18:14] <sheytan> right click on the standard menu plasmoid, settings
[19:36] <ahoneybun> was there a meeting today?
[19:37] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin, ^
[19:47] <clivejo> ahoneybun: I got an email for one, but cant attend
[19:48] <clivejo> Im in another meetting in 10 mintes
[19:48] <ahoneybun> it starts when I'm just getting off from work
[20:13] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[20:14] <_Groo_> valorie: are you still getting plasma crashes with the update widget turned on?
[20:45] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin:  ahoneybun: I tried to attend the meeting but no one was there. I am heading out now so if times change you guys need to give us notice..
[20:46] <sgclark> yofel: I noticed all the teesters are for wily, is xenial not ready?
[20:47] <acher88> Have one laptop running xenial with the landing ppa so far
[20:50] <acher88> It survived an upgrade from vivid > wiley > xenial > xenial+plasma 5.5 without horrific drama
[20:50] <acher88> Few glitchs, but nothing unfixable this end
[20:56] <sgclark> great to hear
[20:56] <sgclark> trusty to xenial will be a challenge...
[21:10] <vip> I feel a little fear upgrading to 5.5 from landing (wily)
[21:11] <vip> can somebody tell, if kwallet problems are resolved? is there somekind of list of what does not work?
[21:13] <sgclark> vip: I believe soee_ has a running list
[21:17] <vip> soee_: can you point that list somewhere? (topic maybe?)
[21:43] <valorie> I see that plasma crashed a couple of times while I was afk, in 5.5.3
[21:45] <valorie> now trying the updater widget - plasma crashed again
[21:46] <valorie> update seems to have finished successfully though
[21:47] <valorie> at least update && full-upgrade now say zero to upgrade
[21:48] <valorie> ....which crashed plasma twice more
[21:48] <valorie> at least the updater widget now disappears instead of sitting there continuing to look menacing
[21:49] <ovidiu-florin> hello people
[21:49] <ovidiu-florin> just got home from the doctor..
[21:49] <ovidiu-florin> sorry I missed the meeting...
[21:50] <ovidiu-florin> it was a last minute appointmant
[21:50] <ovidiu-florin> er...
[21:50] <ovidiu-florin> to tired to fix the spelling
[21:50] <ovidiu-florin> thank you valorie
[21:51] <ovidiu-florin> sorry for wasting your time sgclark :-(
[21:52] <sgclark> no worries, just glad I did not miss it by incorrect link or something. Hope all is well ovidiu-florin
[21:56] <sgclark> yofel: seems I cannot find discover repo
[21:57] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: yeah.. it's ok... now that we know what it is
[22:00] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: good to hear
[22:03] <valorie> the travel lappy is upgrading xenial -- landing/ppa is the one i should test on that?
[22:17] <nicols> hello
[22:18] <ahoneybun> sgclark, sorry about the meeting thing, I was not aware if things did change
[22:20] <nicols> i have cleared my cache today, and noticed that default folder breeze icons are bit lighter blue ... is this expected behaviour?
[22:29] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[23:24] <michelsedgh> hello again i founded another bug. so i came out of sleep and my network manager didnt work, i restarted it manually and it worked.
[23:41] <valorie> michelsedgh: please file a bug report
[23:41]  * valorie is upgrading the xenial box as we speak
[23:42] <clivejo> valorie: would you try out kdeconnect0.9g when you are done?
[23:42] <valorie> sure, clivejo
[23:43] <valorie> on wily, or xenial, or both?
[23:43] <clivejo> Ive packaged both
[23:43] <valorie> awesome
[23:43] <clivejo> https://launchpad.net/~clivejo
[23:43] <valorie> what about the android app end? will it work
[23:43] <clivejo> wily should be in wily and xenial should be in xenial
[23:44] <clivejo> yeah, you need andriod app to properly test it
[23:45] <valorie> I have it, but I thought the versions needed to match?
[23:45] <clivejo> the phone version gets updates a lot faster
[23:46] <clivejo> 0.9g is 11 days old
[23:46] <michelsedgh> valorie: i couldnt make an account in bugs.kde.org
[23:46] <valorie> michelsedgh: why is that?
[23:46] <michelsedgh> i could make it but no login -.-
[23:46] <michelsedgh> it displays an error, i tried changing my password too
[23:46] <valorie> hmmm, well just use `ubuntu-bug network-manager` in the commandline
[23:47] <valorie> that will file in launchpad -- more likely the bug is in the ubuntu package anyway
[23:47] <michelsedgh> great thanks :)
[23:47] <valorie> nm isn't really a KDE application
[23:47] <valorie> clivejo: I think my phone reported an update recently, yeah
[23:48] <michelsedgh> valorie: and installing .deb packages crashed plasma like an apt-get update. i couldnt report that as well
[23:48] <valorie> that's know, and that again is our problem
[23:48] <valorie> not a KDE problem
[23:49] <valorie> not sure what we're doing about it
[23:50] <michelsedgh> ok i know, and i wanted to report it here :)
[23:50] <valorie> thanks, michelsedgh
[23:50] <michelsedgh> someone before told me to report it on bugs.kde
[23:50] <valorie> it happened for me as well
[23:50] <michelsedgh> yw, i will test more.
[23:50] <valorie> right, we didn't know the source of the problem yet
[23:50] <michelsedgh> and btw GJ i really like the new one :)
[23:50] <valorie> it appears to be the qapt backend, and we're the only ones still using it
[23:51] <valorie> dunno why it crashes plasma all the time though
[23:52] <michelsedgh> valorie: hm, im noob in kde and plasma and im not a developer, so nothing i can do more than testing :c sorry
[23:59] <valorie> michelsedgh: being a beginner is your superpower
[23:59]  * valorie is not a coder either