pitti | Good morning | 05:25 |
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darkxst | hey pitti, there is a weird test failure for g-o-a on s390x | 05:36 |
darkxst | https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/s390x/libg/libgdata/20160113_035618@/log.gz | 05:36 |
pitti | darkxst: ack, will have a look (just getting swamped with stuff in #u-devel, so this will have to wait a bit); but for now I retried it | 05:40 |
darkxst | pitti, ok, its not urgent | 05:40 |
hikiko | Hello | 05:46 |
didrocks | good morning | 06:33 |
pitti | bonjour didrocks ! | 06:52 |
pitti | didrocks: so, my last night's attempt to do the adt-run with a clean env also didn't help, i. e. the test still succeeded | 06:52 |
didrocks | pitti: same in running the 3 large android tests… success :/ | 06:54 |
didrocks | hey pitti! | 06:54 |
* didrocks now try to run pep8, small, medium and the 3 large android tests | 06:55 | |
didrocks | we'll see | 06:55 |
pitti | darkxst: just looked into it, the s390x runners had no /etc/default/locale, so they failed when trying to show the actual error message; fixed that (so that I can debug it properly next time), and your test succeeded | 07:17 |
darkxst | pitti, thanks | 07:20 |
* pitti redeploys the autopkgtest cloud worker and fell into a juju trap, argh | 08:26 | |
pitti | any juju savvy folk please wave my way :) | 08:27 |
seb128 | hey pitti | 08:27 |
seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:27 |
pitti | hey seb128, bonjour ! | 08:27 |
didrocks | re seb128 | 08:29 |
willcooke | morning all | 08:53 |
didrocks | morning willcooke | 09:01 |
willcooke | morning didrocks, how goes? | 09:01 |
didrocks | quite busy, but good! yourself? :) | 09:02 |
willcooke | same :) | 09:02 |
Laney | hello! | 09:02 |
willcooke | also feeling like I've got a cold coming or something. Just a bit meh this morning | 09:03 |
willcooke | morning Laney | 09:03 |
didrocks | argh, make a group with seb128 :p | 09:03 |
didrocks | hey Laney! | 09:03 |
willcooke | ha, yeah | 09:03 |
Laney | what's occurring | 09:03 |
pitti | didrocks: FYI, you'll lose your ubuntu-make test request, I have to re-deploy the whole autopkgtest juju env :/ | 09:07 |
seb128 | hey Laney willcooke | 09:08 |
willcooke | morning seb128, feeling any better? | 09:08 |
didrocks | pitti: argh, ok… :( rerunning | 09:08 |
didrocks | pitti: this issue is becoming a little bit tedious | 09:08 |
pitti | didrocks: not right now, it's torn down | 09:08 |
didrocks | ok | 09:08 |
Laney | hey seb128! | 09:11 |
Laney | pitti: something b0rked? | 09:11 |
pitti | Laney: yeah, I cluttered up the worker node and wanted to re-deploy that; then ran into a juju bug, and #juju and #is can't figure it out, so complete reset :/ | 09:11 |
pitti | re-fetching the results on autopkgtest.u.c. will take ages, other than that it should be back up fairly fast | 09:12 |
pitti | well, famous last words :) | 09:12 |
Laney | doh | 09:13 |
pitti | Laney: ok, that wasn't too bad :) | 09:31 |
pitti | fixed a syntax error in the debci charm, then it re-deploys in some 5 mins | 09:32 |
Laney | nice! | 09:32 |
darkxst | hey laney, seb128, willcooke and pitti! did everyone have a good holiday! | 09:34 |
willcooke | hey darkxst | 09:34 |
Laney | darkxst: seems like a long time ago now | 09:38 |
* Laney faintly remembers all the cheese | 09:38 | |
alexarnaud | hello everyone! | 09:39 |
seb128 | hey darkxst | 09:40 |
Laney | darkxst: how's it going? | 09:40 |
seb128 | willcooke, sorry, didn't see you previous line before, I'm a bit better, at least I slept well, still not over the throat infection though | 09:41 |
seb128 | hey alexarnaud | 09:41 |
willcooke | seb128, urgh. Tea to the rescue :) | 09:41 |
seb128 | yeah :-) | 09:41 |
Laney | cognac | 09:42 |
seb128 | haha | 09:42 |
willcooke | ha | 09:42 |
Laney | oh and I'm just uploading webkit stuff to a ppa for now | 09:42 |
Laney | saw a message about that last nite | 09:43 |
pitti | didrocks: you can trigger the run again now | 09:43 |
seb128 | Laney, you know the french ways ;-) | 09:43 |
seb128 | Laney, yeah, you said you would upload to the webkit2 versions, so I was wondering if you had the transition done or if the security team changed their mind | 09:43 |
seb128 | I didn't know the upload was a side one ;-) | 09:44 |
darkxst | Laney, I have had 2 weeks with very limited internet, has been good | 09:44 |
darkxst | still night entirely recovered from my medication nightmares though, so could have been better | 09:45 |
didrocks | pitti: thx! | 09:47 |
andyrock | morning | 09:56 |
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didrocks | hey andyrock | 09:58 |
seb128 | hey andyrock | 09:59 |
larsu | mornig! | 10:01 |
larsu | *morning! | 10:02 |
seb128 | hey larsu! | 10:04 |
seb128 | how are you? | 10:04 |
larsu | exhausted! (just back from the gym) | 10:05 |
larsu | how are you? | 10:05 |
seb128 | I'm alright, still sick but a bit better | 10:07 |
ochosi | hey folks! quick question: you're not planning to push any css nodes/gtk3.20 stuff into 16.04, are you? | 10:10 |
larsu | ochosi: no, that's quite a big refactor in 3.20 | 10:12 |
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seb128 | ochosi, hey, no, that's not the kind of the change we want in a LTS | 10:14 |
Laney | hey larsu ochosi | 10:15 |
larsu | Laney: hi! How's life? | 10:15 |
Laney | ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssuper! | 10:16 |
larsu | :) | 10:16 |
Laney | good gym sesh? | 10:16 |
larsu | 'twas alright | 10:17 |
larsu | was awake long last night, that didn't help | 10:17 |
ochosi | phew good, thanks | 10:18 |
Laney | you party animal | 10:18 |
larsu | Laney: nah, just some beers with David and Kay | 10:19 |
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ochosi | larsu: i presume you haven't done all the gtk3.18 necessary transitions/fixes to the theme..? | 10:19 |
larsu | nope, willcooke has been working on them, though | 10:20 |
seb128 | ochosi, if you want to contribute to some that would be welcome ;-) | 10:21 |
ochosi | ah i see | 10:21 |
ochosi | hehe | 10:21 |
ochosi | well i dunno, i'm going to do the total minimum of what is necessary to make things look alright | 10:21 |
ochosi | since the big refactor of 3.20 is on the horizon, i'd really prefer to invest the minimum time/effort now | 10:21 |
willcooke | yes yes please help :) | 10:21 |
ochosi | the last 4 commits here fix *some* stuff i saw was broken: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commits/master | 10:22 |
ochosi | but since xubuntu uses far less gnome apps, i only see the tip of the iceberg supposedly | 10:22 |
seb128 | there are not too many issues with 3.18 | 10:24 |
ochosi | seb128: yes, linked buttons in inline-toolbars was one of the glitches i saw (and that's unfortunately a lot of code in CSS, even in SASS it looks a bit bloated for my taste) | 10:34 |
seb128 | yeah, those are an issue | 10:34 |
seb128 | the linked buttons at the bottom of dialogs as well | 10:36 |
seb128 | e.g gedit "do you want to save your work" ones | 10:36 |
seb128 | gnome-calendar popover has label color issues on mouseover but that might be specific to the that software | 10:38 |
pitti | Laney: FYI, I'm updating goocanvasmm to latest upstream version; this blocks updating to a newer glom which in turn blocks moving to postgresql-9.5 | 10:42 |
pitti | Laney: (You are the Maintainer:, hence the notification) | 10:42 |
Laney | pitti: updating where? | 10:45 |
pitti | Laney: in xenial | 10:45 |
pitti | Laney: it's only being used by glom, and neither is in Debian | 10:45 |
Laney | pitti: oh right, it got removed ages ago, not really interested in those any more so go wild :) | 10:46 |
Laney | (or remove) | 10:46 |
pitti | glom has been FTBFS for a while | 10:47 |
pitti | and the latest upstream version doesn't work becuase it needs the unpacked libxml++3.0 | 10:47 |
pitti | I'm trying wiht the next-to-last, which works with 2.6 | 10:47 |
pitti | if everything fails, I'm also fine with removing it; nobody maintains glom in Ubuntu really, it's just a step-child | 10:47 |
Laney | ok, I'm happy with removing it too, classic Ubuntu-local package | 10:48 |
Laney | bleh | 10:51 |
willcooke | seb128, larsu - did we reach a conclusion re: Nautilus yesterday? | 10:51 |
willcooke | I think we didn't | 10:51 |
Laney | my monitor went off and I get "The selected configuration for dislpays could not be applied" "could not assign CRTCs to outputs" | 10:51 |
Laney | when re-enabling it | 10:51 |
Laney | did it just break???? | 10:52 |
Laney | re seating the cables was a good idea | 10:53 |
* Laney puts the fire out | 10:53 | |
davmor2 | pitti: why all the glom and doom :D | 10:56 |
seb128 | willcooke, I'm leaning toward "let's revert" | 11:00 |
willcooke | Oki, seb128 larsu - oki let's review again on Friday? Just in case something changes. Otherwise we need to make a final call | 11:01 |
seb128 | k | 11:02 |
seb128 | willcooke, can we maybe get somebody from design to play with the version in xenial and give us some feedback on the things we mentioned yesterday? | 11:02 |
willcooke | seb128, I'll probably need to do a video and send it over to John | 11:04 |
seb128 | willcooke, they don't even have one xenial machine in the office to play with? | 11:04 |
seb128 | hum | 11:04 |
seb128 | is https://packages.qa.debian.org/ working for others? | 11:04 |
Laney | was down for me a bit ago | 11:05 |
Laney | tracker.debian.org works | 11:05 |
seb128 | thanks | 11:05 |
pitti | anonscm is still down | 11:05 |
Laney | I updated my quick search thingy to use tracker now | 11:07 |
* Laney gets with the times | 11:07 | |
seb128 | I find the layout harder to read on that one | 11:07 |
seb128 | I should probably try a bit more to get used to it | 11:08 |
larsu | Laney: tracker is what, 10 yrs old? | 11:55 |
Laney | larsu: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mutter this tracker | 11:58 |
* larsu ← confused | 11:58 | |
larsu | ETOOMANYTRACKERS | 11:58 |
darkxst | are you guys on drugs? | 11:58 |
Laney | I said .debian.org the first time :P | 11:59 |
larsu | I never read more than 3 lines of scrollback! | 11:59 |
Laney | a fair policy | 11:59 |
Laney | darkxst: you want some? | 11:59 |
Laney | I got some "carrot cake" | 11:59 |
Laney | it's hot on the streetz right now | 11:59 |
darkxst | Laney, what am I gonna do with carrot cake ;) | 12:00 |
Laney | and some "assam tea" | 12:00 |
Laney | what you do with it is your business | 12:00 |
Laney | just don't involve me, I ain't going down for you | 12:00 |
darkxst | Laney, I know some gangsta's if you want to form a crew! | 12:01 |
darkxst | but for now | 12:01 |
* darkxst sleeps | 12:01 | |
Laney | I heard about this "craft beer" | 12:01 |
Laney | someone ought to hook me up | 12:01 |
Laney | night! | 12:01 |
darkxst | Laney, holgates brewery | 12:02 |
darkxst | night | 12:02 |
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seb128 | what's going on on this channel?! | 12:10 |
* seb128 wants no carrot cake | 12:10 | |
seb128 | speaking of which, just registered for an esta, even more questions to reply to than in the past | 12:11 |
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pitti_ | argh glom argh | 12:14 |
Laney | don't waste time on it | 12:14 |
didrocks | pitti_: I'm probably reading adt-run help wrong, but --git-source 'https://github.com/LyzardKing/ubuntu-make.git eclipse_multiple' --no-built-binaries will still build the package? | 12:14 |
didrocks | pitti_: I have no tests requiring build (and didn't specify the option in d/t/c) | 12:15 |
pitti_ | didrocks: no, it shouldn't build the package, does it? | 12:15 |
attente | good morning | 12:15 |
didrocks | pitti_: seems so | 12:15 |
didrocks | and then it installs it | 12:16 |
pitti_ | didrocks: oh, wait -- --no-buit-binaries must come *before* the test argument (--git-source) | 12:16 |
pitti_ | it always applies to the next test argument | 12:16 |
didrocks | pitti_: oh, ok, trying! | 12:17 |
Laney | hey attente! | 12:18 |
didrocks | pitti_: yep, confirming it works | 12:19 |
didrocks | thx | 12:19 |
attente | hi Laney | 12:20 |
attente | Laney: could you help me land https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/861? | 12:21 |
Laney | umm I guess so | 12:22 |
Laney | did someone review your package yet? | 12:22 |
Laney | and is the version thing you were talking about fixed? | 12:22 |
seb128 | hey attente | 12:24 |
attente | hi seb128 | 12:24 |
Laney | attente: would be better if you use the tarballs on github imho | 12:34 |
Laney | debian/watch seems to work | 12:35 |
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Laney | debian/copyright says LGPL-2.0+ but the license actually appears to be 2.1+ | 12:40 |
Laney | don't see any copyright beyond 2012 specified in the source files (the "-2015 Canonical") | 12:41 |
attente | oh... i thought the + was inclusive for that | 12:41 |
Laney | think that's all | 12:42 |
attente | thanks Laney, i'll make it download the tarball instead | 12:43 |
Laney | you won't be able to fix the tarball in the ppa | 12:44 |
Laney | so give me it another way if you want | 12:44 |
Laney | like put it on lillypilly.canonical.com:public_html/ | 12:44 |
attente | are you going to overwrite the old one? | 12:45 |
Laney | in a sense | 12:45 |
Laney | I would just upload directly instead of using a landing silo | 12:45 |
Laney | unless you want to do that for some reason | 12:45 |
Laney | in which case you should get a new one | 12:45 |
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didrocks | pitti: bah, still can't reproduce the same failure (only running pep8, small, medium and test_android) | 13:09 |
didrocks | pitti: I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't run those tests in a normal qemu instance on one server, that would address the "I have the tests results, cronify the requests without having a specific account and such…" | 13:10 |
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pitti | didrocks: if you have one, that'd be fine as well of course; sorry, I didn't get back yet to chasing this down | 13:35 |
didrocks | pitti: no worry, it's just hard to debug… I wonder if I shouldn't pstree on each tests so that we can see the running processes | 13:37 |
didrocks | I'm trying as well a wily run (not xenial, didn't make the dummy upload to the ppas still) | 13:38 |
desrt | good morning teammates, and also didrocks | 13:45 |
seb128 | hey desrt | 13:47 |
didrocks | desrt: good morning! | 13:50 |
* didrocks goes in a guest session for a while, brb | 13:51 | |
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ksamak | hikiko: TheMuso didrocks no choice but to link to gobject if one wants a11y... shall i make a compil flag? would that be acceptable? | 13:57 |
ksamak | in compiz | 13:58 |
didrocks | I think a compile flag would be acceptable if there is no other choice, but really, as I told you multiple times, I don't really work on compiz upstream anymore, so check with hikiko only | 13:58 |
ksamak | yeah. nope, no choice, unless one is ready to remake the lib... | 14:03 |
hikiko | ksamak, hi | 14:10 |
hikiko | where does compiz uses gobjects? | 14:11 |
* Laney screams mmmmmmvooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 14:18 | |
didrocks | Laney: not sure the hilight would work :) | 14:20 |
Laney | wasn't trying to :P | 14:20 |
* davmor2 slaps Laney who is obviously Hysterical | 14:20 | |
didrocks | just saying :p | 14:20 |
Laney | pre-build.sh is sinful | 14:24 |
* Laney might have battered it into submission though | 14:24 | |
ksamak | hikiko: we (hypra.fr) want to add accessibility features in compiz | 14:25 |
Laney | hope it builds this time, getting hungry | 14:25 |
ksamak | for blind and visually impaired | 14:25 |
ksamak | so libATK needs gobject | 14:25 |
hikiko | ksamak what type of features? | 14:26 |
ksamak | hikiko: also, we'd like (or we will) re-introduce compiz in debian, how does that sound to you? | 14:26 |
* davmor2 hands Laney his sledgehammer again, it worked last time ;) | 14:26 | |
ksamak | hikiko: firstly, vocalisation of basic desktop feats, like alt-tab | 14:26 |
ksamak | and display on braille devices | 14:26 |
hikiko | :D | 14:26 |
hikiko | sounds nice | 14:27 |
pitti | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-make-builddeps/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/source/Sources 404 Not | 14:27 |
pitti | +Found | 14:27 |
pitti | didrocks: ^ | 14:27 |
pitti | didrocks: needs a dummy upload/copy again? | 14:27 |
ksamak | hikiko: there's a lack of access for impaired users right now, so we'd like to correct that. | 14:28 |
hikiko | but ksamak how will you use the c gobjects in compiz that is c++? | 14:28 |
ksamak | well, i'm doing a archi binding, to have a cpp interface to ATK | 14:28 |
didrocks | pitti: oh right, I only have some packages in trusty for the build-deps (not the same than ubuntu-make) | 14:29 |
ksamak | or i'll use the cpp interface that exists, atkmm. | 14:29 |
ksamak | whichever is better. | 14:29 |
hikiko | I see | 14:29 |
didrocks | pitti: copying + removing I guess | 14:29 |
hikiko | ksamak, I don't think a flag is a problem | 14:29 |
qengho | Okay, I thought I'd loathe Irssi and SSHing to my permanent machine get to a long-running IRC connection, but it's not bad. | 14:29 |
hikiko | and ksamak the features sound really cool :) | 14:29 |
hikiko | thanks for taking the time to add them! | 14:30 |
ksamak | if anyone feels like helping, we also need to pull upstream from you guys, and adapt the packaging to debian as well. | 14:30 |
ksamak | git.hypra.fr is our current repo | 14:30 |
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ksamak | we'll be switching to https://alioth.debian.org/projects/compiz | 14:30 |
hikiko | ksamak, I am not familiar with packaging at all | 14:30 |
hikiko | maybe Trevinho knows more | 14:31 |
hikiko | I am just writing code | 14:31 |
ksamak | ok. i guess you know more people in ubuntu than me though lol | 14:31 |
hikiko | yes | 14:31 |
hikiko | basically willcooke is the manager of the desktop team | 14:31 |
hikiko | he can point out the right persons for everything I guess :) | 14:31 |
ksamak | ok thx | 14:31 |
* willcooke reads | 14:32 | |
hikiko | as for the debian, I really have no opinion ksamak I think the debian developers are responsible to take the decision | 14:32 |
ksamak | yeah, they're willing to, we just have to do it now | 14:33 |
willcooke | sounds like maybe TheMuso would be interested in this project overall, he's our a11y expert. He also happens to know about packaging | 14:34 |
ksamak | we just need a few pointers on how to remove the little ubuntu native packages from it | 14:34 |
ksamak | ok, i'll come back later, thanks for the info | 14:34 |
didrocks | the current questions are more about code than packaging though if I understood that right | 14:34 |
didrocks | like adding a11y to compiz upstream | 14:34 |
didrocks | willcooke: hikiko: FYI ^ | 14:34 |
ksamak | yeah these are two different subjects | 14:35 |
didrocks | (the packaging will be a second part) | 14:35 |
didrocks | ksamak: right, let's take one at a time :p | 14:35 |
ksamak | we also need packaging for debian. well, it's already there, there's juste a couple modifs | 14:35 |
willcooke | ksamak, when you need packaging help ping TheMuso (but he's in UTC-12) he might be able to offer some guidance there. In the meantime, yeah, hikiko is our compiz code expert | 14:36 |
Laney | OMG it built me a source package | 14:36 |
willcooke | there's a #compiz channel as well, but that seems pretty much dead | 14:36 |
davmor2 | Laney: see you only have to mention sledgehammer ;) | 14:40 |
* Laney nominates davmor2 for a spotlight award | 14:42 | |
Laney | supplier of finest computer scaring tools | 14:42 |
* Laney goes for lunchies | 14:43 | |
didrocks | pitti: trying on xenial now that both ppas are boostrapped | 15:06 |
didrocks | pitti: can't connect to github now :/ (and the other xenial worker wasn't up to date and failed): https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-wily-ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-make/wily/amd64/u/ubuntu-make-git/20160113_153127@/log.gz | 15:38 |
didrocks | pitti: I guess the ssh access isn't enabled, I'll use the https one | 15:38 |
pitti | didrocks: sorry, was in meeting | 16:38 |
pitti | didrocks: ah yes, you won't be able to ssh to github, only http and https through proxy | 16:38 |
didrocks | pitti: yeah, still some docker timing out on wily though: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml#pkg-ubuntu-make-git | 16:50 |
qengho | didrocks: I diffed xdg-utils against xenial and Debian in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1518053 . Is that what you had in mind? | 16:50 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1518053 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-mime can read .config/ defaults but can never set them" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:50 |
didrocks | qengho: hum, wrong person? :) | 16:56 |
didrocks | oh no, a very old sponsor request | 16:57 |
didrocks | I'll have a look tomorrow, enough for today ;) | 16:57 |
* didrocks waves good evening | 16:58 | |
ksamak | didrocks: seeya | 16:58 |
didrocks | see you ksamak! | 16:59 |
seb128 | Laney mastering webkit ;-) | 17:19 |
* Laney roars | 17:39 | |
willcooke | meow | 17:39 |
attente | Laney: sorry about the delay. do you think you could copy the package from here? https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/maliit-inputcontext-gtk | 17:46 |
Laney | attente: ok, it'll have to be tomorrow now though | 17:49 |
Laney | bye! | 18:03 |
seb128 | Laney, enjoy your evening! | 18:06 |
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snowstorm | hi all | 18:54 |
snowstorm | does anyone knows about lost of surround sound through hdmi with Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series after Ubuntu 14.04 LTS latest update done few days ago? | 18:55 |
alexarnaud | snowstorm: are you tring to verify if the right pulseaudio canal is used ? | 19:08 |
alexarnaud | (with something like pavucontrol) | 19:08 |
snowstorm | I still have stereo sound when playing video through VLC, but now surround anymore | 19:09 |
snowstorm | and yes, all I see is front left and front right | 19:10 |
alexarnaud | snowstorm: OK, sorry I can't helping you. You should to go to #ubuntu channel for support. | 19:12 |
snowstorm | ok thanks alexarnaud for the consideration | 19:12 |
willcooke | g'night all | 19:23 |
alexarnaud | see you later everyone | 19:25 |
TheMuso | ksamak: You could also talk directly via dbus to at-spi, thats another option. | 20:57 |
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