[05:25] Good morning [05:36] hey pitti, there is a weird test failure for g-o-a on s390x [05:36] https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-xenial/xenial/s390x/libg/libgdata/20160113_035618@/log.gz [05:40] darkxst: ack, will have a look (just getting swamped with stuff in #u-devel, so this will have to wait a bit); but for now I retried it [05:40] pitti, ok, its not urgent [05:46] Hello [06:33] good morning [06:52] bonjour didrocks ! [06:52] didrocks: so, my last night's attempt to do the adt-run with a clean env also didn't help, i. e. the test still succeeded [06:54] pitti: same in running the 3 large android tests… success :/ [06:54] hey pitti! [06:55] * didrocks now try to run pep8, small, medium and the 3 large android tests [06:55] we'll see [07:17] darkxst: just looked into it, the s390x runners had no /etc/default/locale, so they failed when trying to show the actual error message; fixed that (so that I can debug it properly next time), and your test succeeded [07:20] pitti, thanks [08:26] * pitti redeploys the autopkgtest cloud worker and fell into a juju trap, argh [08:27] any juju savvy folk please wave my way :) [08:27] hey pitti [08:27] good morning desktopers [08:27] hey seb128, bonjour ! [08:29] re seb128 [08:53] morning all [09:01] morning willcooke [09:01] morning didrocks, how goes? [09:02] quite busy, but good! yourself? :) [09:02] same :) [09:02] hello! [09:03] also feeling like I've got a cold coming or something. Just a bit meh this morning [09:03] morning Laney [09:03] argh, make a group with seb128 :p [09:03] hey Laney! [09:03] ha, yeah [09:03] what's occurring [09:07] didrocks: FYI, you'll lose your ubuntu-make test request, I have to re-deploy the whole autopkgtest juju env :/ [09:08] hey Laney willcooke [09:08] morning seb128, feeling any better? [09:08] pitti: argh, ok… :( rerunning [09:08] pitti: this issue is becoming a little bit tedious [09:08] didrocks: not right now, it's torn down [09:08] ok [09:11] hey seb128! [09:11] pitti: something b0rked? [09:11] Laney: yeah, I cluttered up the worker node and wanted to re-deploy that; then ran into a juju bug, and #juju and #is can't figure it out, so complete reset :/ [09:12] re-fetching the results on autopkgtest.u.c. will take ages, other than that it should be back up fairly fast [09:12] well, famous last words :) [09:13] doh [09:31] Laney: ok, that wasn't too bad :) [09:32] fixed a syntax error in the debci charm, then it re-deploys in some 5 mins [09:32] nice! [09:34] hey laney, seb128, willcooke and pitti! did everyone have a good holiday! [09:34] hey darkxst [09:38] darkxst: seems like a long time ago now [09:38] * Laney faintly remembers all the cheese [09:39] hello everyone! [09:40] hey darkxst [09:40] darkxst: how's it going? [09:41] willcooke, sorry, didn't see you previous line before, I'm a bit better, at least I slept well, still not over the throat infection though [09:41] hey alexarnaud [09:41] seb128, urgh. Tea to the rescue :) [09:41] yeah :-) [09:42] cognac [09:42] haha [09:42] ha [09:42] oh and I'm just uploading webkit stuff to a ppa for now [09:43] saw a message about that last nite [09:43] didrocks: you can trigger the run again now [09:43] Laney, you know the french ways ;-) [09:43] Laney, yeah, you said you would upload to the webkit2 versions, so I was wondering if you had the transition done or if the security team changed their mind [09:44] I didn't know the upload was a side one ;-) [09:44] Laney, I have had 2 weeks with very limited internet, has been good [09:45] still night entirely recovered from my medication nightmares though, so could have been better [09:47] pitti: thx! [09:56] morning === shiznix_ is now known as shiznix [09:58] hey andyrock [09:59] hey andyrock [10:01] mornig! [10:02] *morning! [10:04] hey larsu! [10:04] how are you? [10:05] exhausted! (just back from the gym) [10:05] how are you? [10:07] I'm alright, still sick but a bit better [10:10] hey folks! quick question: you're not planning to push any css nodes/gtk3.20 stuff into 16.04, are you? [10:12] ochosi: no, that's quite a big refactor in 3.20 === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [10:14] ochosi, hey, no, that's not the kind of the change we want in a LTS [10:15] hey larsu ochosi [10:15] Laney: hi! How's life? [10:16] ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssuper! [10:16] :) [10:16] good gym sesh? [10:17] 'twas alright [10:17] was awake long last night, that didn't help [10:18] phew good, thanks [10:18] you party animal [10:19] Laney: nah, just some beers with David and Kay === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos [10:19] larsu: i presume you haven't done all the gtk3.18 necessary transitions/fixes to the theme..? [10:20] nope, willcooke has been working on them, though [10:21] ochosi, if you want to contribute to some that would be welcome ;-) [10:21] ah i see [10:21] hehe [10:21] well i dunno, i'm going to do the total minimum of what is necessary to make things look alright [10:21] since the big refactor of 3.20 is on the horizon, i'd really prefer to invest the minimum time/effort now [10:21] yes yes please help :) [10:22] the last 4 commits here fix *some* stuff i saw was broken: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/commits/master [10:22] but since xubuntu uses far less gnome apps, i only see the tip of the iceberg supposedly [10:24] there are not too many issues with 3.18 [10:34] seb128: yes, linked buttons in inline-toolbars was one of the glitches i saw (and that's unfortunately a lot of code in CSS, even in SASS it looks a bit bloated for my taste) [10:34] yeah, those are an issue [10:36] the linked buttons at the bottom of dialogs as well [10:36] e.g gedit "do you want to save your work" ones [10:38] gnome-calendar popover has label color issues on mouseover but that might be specific to the that software [10:42] Laney: FYI, I'm updating goocanvasmm to latest upstream version; this blocks updating to a newer glom which in turn blocks moving to postgresql-9.5 [10:42] Laney: (You are the Maintainer:, hence the notification) [10:45] pitti: updating where? [10:45] Laney: in xenial [10:45] Laney: it's only being used by glom, and neither is in Debian [10:46] pitti: oh right, it got removed ages ago, not really interested in those any more so go wild :) [10:46] (or remove) [10:47] glom has been FTBFS for a while [10:47] and the latest upstream version doesn't work becuase it needs the unpacked libxml++3.0 [10:47] I'm trying wiht the next-to-last, which works with 2.6 [10:47] if everything fails, I'm also fine with removing it; nobody maintains glom in Ubuntu really, it's just a step-child [10:48] ok, I'm happy with removing it too, classic Ubuntu-local package [10:51] bleh [10:51] seb128, larsu - did we reach a conclusion re: Nautilus yesterday? [10:51] I think we didn't [10:51] my monitor went off and I get "The selected configuration for dislpays could not be applied" "could not assign CRTCs to outputs" [10:51] when re-enabling it [10:52] did it just break???? [10:53] re seating the cables was a good idea [10:53] * Laney puts the fire out [10:56] pitti: why all the glom and doom :D [11:00] willcooke, I'm leaning toward "let's revert" [11:01] Oki, seb128 larsu - oki let's review again on Friday? Just in case something changes. Otherwise we need to make a final call [11:02] k [11:02] willcooke, can we maybe get somebody from design to play with the version in xenial and give us some feedback on the things we mentioned yesterday? [11:04] seb128, I'll probably need to do a video and send it over to John [11:04] willcooke, they don't even have one xenial machine in the office to play with? [11:04] hum [11:04] is https://packages.qa.debian.org/ working for others? [11:05] was down for me a bit ago [11:05] tracker.debian.org works [11:05] thanks [11:05] anonscm is still down [11:07] I updated my quick search thingy to use tracker now [11:07] * Laney gets with the times [11:07] I find the layout harder to read on that one [11:08] I should probably try a bit more to get used to it [11:55] Laney: tracker is what, 10 yrs old? [11:58] larsu: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mutter this tracker [11:58] * larsu ← confused [11:58] ETOOMANYTRACKERS [11:58] are you guys on drugs? [11:59] I said .debian.org the first time :P [11:59] I never read more than 3 lines of scrollback! [11:59] a fair policy [11:59] darkxst: you want some? [11:59] I got some "carrot cake" [11:59] it's hot on the streetz right now [12:00] Laney, what am I gonna do with carrot cake ;) [12:00] and some "assam tea" [12:00] what you do with it is your business [12:00] just don't involve me, I ain't going down for you [12:01] Laney, I know some gangsta's if you want to form a crew! [12:01] but for now [12:01] * darkxst sleeps [12:01] I heard about this "craft beer" [12:01] someone ought to hook me up [12:01] night! [12:02] Laney, holgates brewery [12:02] night === Guest81048 is now known as pitti_ [12:10] what's going on on this channel?! [12:10] * seb128 wants no carrot cake [12:11] speaking of which, just registered for an esta, even more questions to reply to than in the past === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln [12:14] argh glom argh [12:14] don't waste time on it [12:14] pitti_: I'm probably reading adt-run help wrong, but --git-source 'https://github.com/LyzardKing/ubuntu-make.git eclipse_multiple' --no-built-binaries will still build the package? [12:15] pitti_: I have no tests requiring build (and didn't specify the option in d/t/c) [12:15] didrocks: no, it shouldn't build the package, does it? [12:15] good morning [12:15] pitti_: seems so [12:16] and then it installs it [12:16] didrocks: oh, wait -- --no-buit-binaries must come *before* the test argument (--git-source) [12:16] it always applies to the next test argument [12:17] pitti_: oh, ok, trying! [12:18] hey attente! [12:19] pitti_: yep, confirming it works [12:19] thx [12:20] hi Laney [12:21] Laney: could you help me land https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/861? [12:22] umm I guess so [12:22] did someone review your package yet? [12:22] and is the version thing you were talking about fixed? [12:24] hey attente [12:24] hi seb128 [12:34] attente: would be better if you use the tarballs on github imho [12:35] debian/watch seems to work === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland [12:40] debian/copyright says LGPL-2.0+ but the license actually appears to be 2.1+ [12:41] don't see any copyright beyond 2012 specified in the source files (the "-2015 Canonical") [12:41] oh... i thought the + was inclusive for that [12:42] think that's all [12:43] thanks Laney, i'll make it download the tarball instead [12:44] you won't be able to fix the tarball in the ppa [12:44] so give me it another way if you want [12:44] like put it on lillypilly.canonical.com:public_html/ [12:45] are you going to overwrite the old one? [12:45] in a sense [12:45] I would just upload directly instead of using a landing silo [12:45] unless you want to do that for some reason [12:45] in which case you should get a new one === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [13:09] pitti: bah, still can't reproduce the same failure (only running pep8, small, medium and test_android) [13:10] pitti: I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't run those tests in a normal qemu instance on one server, that would address the "I have the tests results, cronify the requests without having a specific account and such…" === mvo__ is now known as mvo [13:35] didrocks: if you have one, that'd be fine as well of course; sorry, I didn't get back yet to chasing this down [13:37] pitti: no worry, it's just hard to debug… I wonder if I shouldn't pstree on each tests so that we can see the running processes [13:38] I'm trying as well a wily run (not xenial, didn't make the dummy upload to the ppas still) [13:45] good morning teammates, and also didrocks [13:47] hey desrt [13:50] desrt: good morning! [13:51] * didrocks goes in a guest session for a while, brb === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [13:57] hikiko: TheMuso didrocks no choice but to link to gobject if one wants a11y... shall i make a compil flag? would that be acceptable? [13:58] in compiz [13:58] I think a compile flag would be acceptable if there is no other choice, but really, as I told you multiple times, I don't really work on compiz upstream anymore, so check with hikiko only [14:03] yeah. nope, no choice, unless one is ready to remake the lib... [14:10] ksamak, hi [14:11] where does compiz uses gobjects? [14:18] * Laney screams mmmmmmvooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [14:20] Laney: not sure the hilight would work :) [14:20] wasn't trying to :P [14:20] * davmor2 slaps Laney who is obviously Hysterical [14:20] just saying :p [14:24] pre-build.sh is sinful [14:24] * Laney might have battered it into submission though [14:25] hikiko: we (hypra.fr) want to add accessibility features in compiz [14:25] hope it builds this time, getting hungry [14:25] for blind and visually impaired [14:25] so libATK needs gobject [14:26] ksamak what type of features? [14:26] hikiko: also, we'd like (or we will) re-introduce compiz in debian, how does that sound to you? [14:26] * davmor2 hands Laney his sledgehammer again, it worked last time ;) [14:26] hikiko: firstly, vocalisation of basic desktop feats, like alt-tab [14:26] and display on braille devices [14:26] :D [14:27] sounds nice [14:27] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop/ubuntu-make-builddeps/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/source/Sources 404 Not [14:27] +Found [14:27] didrocks: ^ [14:27] didrocks: needs a dummy upload/copy again? [14:28] hikiko: there's a lack of access for impaired users right now, so we'd like to correct that. [14:28] but ksamak how will you use the c gobjects in compiz that is c++? [14:28] well, i'm doing a archi binding, to have a cpp interface to ATK [14:29] pitti: oh right, I only have some packages in trusty for the build-deps (not the same than ubuntu-make) [14:29] or i'll use the cpp interface that exists, atkmm. [14:29] whichever is better. [14:29] I see [14:29] pitti: copying + removing I guess [14:29] ksamak, I don't think a flag is a problem [14:29] Okay, I thought I'd loathe Irssi and SSHing to my permanent machine get to a long-running IRC connection, but it's not bad. [14:29] and ksamak the features sound really cool :) [14:30] thanks for taking the time to add them! [14:30] if anyone feels like helping, we also need to pull upstream from you guys, and adapt the packaging to debian as well. [14:30] git.hypra.fr is our current repo === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:30] we'll be switching to https://alioth.debian.org/projects/compiz [14:30] ksamak, I am not familiar with packaging at all [14:31] maybe Trevinho knows more [14:31] I am just writing code [14:31] ok. i guess you know more people in ubuntu than me though lol [14:31] yes [14:31] basically willcooke is the manager of the desktop team [14:31] he can point out the right persons for everything I guess :) [14:31] ok thx [14:32] * willcooke reads [14:32] as for the debian, I really have no opinion ksamak I think the debian developers are responsible to take the decision [14:33] yeah, they're willing to, we just have to do it now [14:34] sounds like maybe TheMuso would be interested in this project overall, he's our a11y expert. He also happens to know about packaging [14:34] we just need a few pointers on how to remove the little ubuntu native packages from it [14:34] ok, i'll come back later, thanks for the info [14:34] the current questions are more about code than packaging though if I understood that right [14:34] like adding a11y to compiz upstream [14:34] willcooke: hikiko: FYI ^ [14:35] yeah these are two different subjects [14:35] (the packaging will be a second part) [14:35] ksamak: right, let's take one at a time :p [14:35] we also need packaging for debian. well, it's already there, there's juste a couple modifs [14:36] ksamak, when you need packaging help ping TheMuso (but he's in UTC-12) he might be able to offer some guidance there. In the meantime, yeah, hikiko is our compiz code expert [14:36] OMG it built me a source package [14:36] there's a #compiz channel as well, but that seems pretty much dead [14:40] Laney: see you only have to mention sledgehammer ;) [14:42] * Laney nominates davmor2 for a spotlight award [14:42] supplier of finest computer scaring tools [14:43] * Laney goes for lunchies [15:06] pitti: trying on xenial now that both ppas are boostrapped [15:38] pitti: can't connect to github now :/ (and the other xenial worker wasn't up to date and failed): https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-wily-ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-make/wily/amd64/u/ubuntu-make-git/20160113_153127@/log.gz [15:38] pitti: I guess the ssh access isn't enabled, I'll use the https one [16:38] didrocks: sorry, was in meeting [16:38] didrocks: ah yes, you won't be able to ssh to github, only http and https through proxy [16:50] pitti: yeah, still some docker timing out on wily though: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml#pkg-ubuntu-make-git [16:50] didrocks: I diffed xdg-utils against xenial and Debian in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1518053 . Is that what you had in mind? [16:50] Launchpad bug 1518053 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-mime can read .config/ defaults but can never set them" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:56] qengho: hum, wrong person? :) [16:57] oh no, a very old sponsor request [16:57] I'll have a look tomorrow, enough for today ;) [16:58] * didrocks waves good evening [16:58] didrocks: seeya [16:59] see you ksamak! [17:19] Laney mastering webkit ;-) [17:39] * Laney roars [17:39] meow [17:46] Laney: sorry about the delay. do you think you could copy the package from here? https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/maliit-inputcontext-gtk [17:49] attente: ok, it'll have to be tomorrow now though [18:03] bye! [18:06] Laney, enjoy your evening! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [18:54] hi all [18:55] does anyone knows about lost of surround sound through hdmi with Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series after Ubuntu 14.04 LTS latest update done few days ago? [19:08] snowstorm: are you tring to verify if the right pulseaudio canal is used ? [19:08] (with something like pavucontrol) [19:09] I still have stereo sound when playing video through VLC, but now surround anymore [19:10] and yes, all I see is front left and front right [19:12] snowstorm: OK, sorry I can't helping you. You should to go to #ubuntu channel for support. [19:12] ok thanks alexarnaud for the consideration [19:23] g'night all [19:25] see you later everyone [20:57] ksamak: You could also talk directly via dbus to at-spi, thats another option. === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 === _thumper_ is now known as thumper === JanC_ is now known as JanC