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MatthewAllen | balloons, you may want to have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1533472 | 05:55 |
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ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1533472 in Ubuntu QA Website "Text inside tables in the results page cannot be seen as it is the same color as the background" [Undecided,New] | 05:55 |
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flocculant | balloons: that's definitely something we need to sort out :p | 07:20 |
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balloons | yea, the tracker is updated and looks a bit different.. | 16:28 |
MatthewAllen | flocculant, wxl, tsimonq2 - I was talking to balloons about creating a terminal application (for a GCI Task) that allows you to set a testcase to monitor on the QA Tracker and the application will use desktop notifications to inform you when a new result is added and a preview of its data (eg. passed, comment, etc.) - Would you be interested in this? Or would it be a waste of my time to develop? Any specific | 17:00 |
MatthewAllen | features that you guys would want? | 17:00 |
MatthewAllen | If I'm disconnected by the time you guys see this, feel free to email me at whosdaz <at> gmail.com | 17:09 |
flocculant | balloons: do you mean it is intentional to not be able to read things? | 17:21 |
balloons | flocculant, no, not at all. I mean the change occured with the release | 17:21 |
flocculant | oh ok - I was a bit confused by what you said :) | 17:21 |
balloons | We'll have to dig into it and see what happened. If it's poor enough, we can rollback | 17:21 |
flocculant | MatthewAllen: just this minute got home, will look at that very shortly | 17:22 |
balloons | MatthewAllen, notice the critical bugs box flows under the bugs box at smaller window sizes: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110281/testcases/1307/results | 17:25 |
balloons | And the bugs box overflows the section | 17:26 |
MatthewAllen | balloons, hmmm - I'd assume that is because they never resize | 17:26 |
flocculant | MatthewAllen: not sure that I'd be at all interested in if I'm reading that right - I have about ~50 discrete testcases I'm worried about - that is a whole lot of setting up each time I reinstall the OS and given that I do that 3 or 4 times during a 6 month cycle - not going there | 17:27 |
flocculant | I'd be interested in an RSS feed via the tracker which would rely on me being logged into it only | 17:27 |
MatthewAllen | flocculant, all good - anything specific you can think of that would be useful? that could be implemented with the QA Tracker API | 17:27 |
flocculant | MatthewAllen: well atm - I don't know if every thing we've been looking at is live, so a bit hard to tell | 17:31 |
flocculant | mmm - why am I seeing path to testcases in the top bar? | 17:32 |
flocculant | http://i.imgur.com/EL4RNdh.png | 17:32 |
MatthewAllen | ..., that's my bad | 17:32 |
MatthewAllen | will fix asap | 17:32 |
flocculant | ok - just checking :) | 17:33 |
MatthewAllen | good catch, thanks for pointing it out | 17:33 |
MatthewAllen | that was left over from me testing while implementing the fix for the 404 link | 17:34 |
flocculant | :) | 17:34 |
MatthewAllen | balloons, for the bug mentioned above - should I just push a commit to the current merge for the 404? Can you sort it out from there? | 17:36 |
MatthewAllen | fix pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~whosdaz/ubuntu-qa-website/fix1194770 | 17:37 |
balloons | MatthewAllen, yes I can remerged the same branch | 17:55 |
MatthewAllen | mmk, I've pushed the change to the same branch | 17:55 |
MatthewAllen | so you can do it whenever | 17:55 |
balloons | I'm thinking we might just rollback on this | 17:56 |
damascene | Is the sluggishness during software update is normal thing? | 17:58 |
damascene | When I urn # sudo -u test sh -c "echo Hi" answer: Hi \n Sessions still open, not unmounting. Is it a bug? It does not forbid me from running the command but it throw an error that block the execution of local.rc | 18:01 |
flocculant | damascene: this isn't a support channel - try #ubuntu | 18:03 |
damascene | I'm not looking for support | 18:03 |
damascene | I think it's a bug if you can confirm it. I'll file a bug | 18:03 |
wxl | balloons: fwiw i'm in support of matthewallen's idea for the qa tracker notifications | 18:06 |
balloons | damascene, we have no idea what test.sh, or what you mean by sluggishness | 18:06 |
flocculant | wxl: but would you prefer something you don't have to set up each time you re-install? | 18:07 |
flocculant | like an rss feed from the tracker | 18:07 |
balloons | during installtion, the disk and cpu usage goes up. That will make your pc seem slower than before | 18:07 |
wxl | flocculant: yes, definitely | 18:08 |
flocculant | wxl: not that I'm particularly worried one way or the other - one I might use, the other I wouldn't :) | 18:08 |
wxl | hehehe | 18:08 |
wxl | actually i wouldn't mind even a daily report sent by email summarizing | 18:08 |
flocculant | well - actually I would use rss feed if it was a general thing | 18:08 |
wxl | personally, though, i'd want to do it per image rather than per testcase | 18:08 |
wxl | i'm interested in ALL the testcases for our particular set of images (and sometimes, other images) | 18:08 |
flocculant | I thought testcase number changed when new daily | 18:09 |
wxl | i don't usually use rss feeds | 18:09 |
wxl | which isn't to say i couldn't | 18:09 |
flocculant | for images | 18:09 |
damascene | balloons, in short I'm telling a command to run as user "test" here is what happening http://paste.ubuntu.com/14489006/ | 18:09 |
damascene | I do not want to go and file a bug then it turn out to be because of my mistake. I've searched different forums and did not find it common and did not understand what it mean | 18:13 |
flocculant | balloons wxl - I'm under the impression that when the build changes then the url does http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110283/testcases wouldn't be 110283 tomorrow for instance | 18:14 |
flocculant | not sure how matthew's tool would work | 18:14 |
flocculant | anyway - enough of that from me - I'd not use it :) | 18:15 |
balloons | why not? His tool would use the API, so it should be fine | 18:16 |
balloons | and yes you are corect | 18:16 |
flocculant | why not use it? | 18:16 |
flocculant | or some other why not? | 18:17 |
balloons | well, I wouldn't have him build something that's of no use, heh | 18:17 |
balloons | no sense in that | 18:17 |
flocculant | ok - well I did give him my reasoning ^^ - I'd not want to get notifications of ~50 things that I'm interested in | 18:18 |
flocculant | and on milestone testing when I'm 'WILL YOU PLEASE TEST THIS FOR US' it'd be a nightmare :) | 18:18 |
wxl | flocculant: that's why i'd suggest a daily report | 18:18 |
flocculant | balloons: bug 1375456 | 18:19 |
ubot5 | bug 1375456 in Ubuntu QA Website "no way to subscribe to daily reports for a particular product" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375456 | 18:19 |
wxl | right and see, that's for a whole PRODUCT | 18:19 |
wxl | which is what i'm interested in | 18:19 |
flocculant | yea | 18:19 |
flocculant | basically I'd want to know about xubuntu iso.tracker and package.tracker | 18:19 |
wxl | same here, for lubuntu | 18:20 |
wxl | occassionally i might want to know about some other image because i'm tracking installer issues | 18:20 |
wxl | but again, that can be a whole product | 18:20 |
wxl | (probably better if it is, honestly) | 18:20 |
* balloons is trying to figure out the course of action to take for the tracker | 18:21 | |
wxl | balloons: i think you, as head of QA, will need to make an executive decision about how this is going to manifest itself, but my vote is definitely in for a daily report on a set of user-selectable products | 18:22 |
balloons | ahh.. The decision lies with the one with creates it | 18:24 |
balloons | meritocracy my friend ;-) | 18:25 |
wxl | balloons: that's why i gave you my vote | 18:25 |
flocculant | ha ha ha | 18:26 |
flocculant | I'm using the I won't use that method of backing quietly away from this issue :p | 18:26 |
flocculant | from my perspective if there was an rss feed on 'product' then I suspect knome could add that to our tracker so anyone interested in xubuntu could see that | 18:28 |
damascene | I couldn't reproduce the problem on 16.04 just in 15.04 for now | 18:30 |
flocculant | damascene: well 15.04 is just about to EOL anyway | 18:31 |
teward | ^ | 18:31 |
damascene | I should hurry up then and replace it :-) | 18:32 |
flocculant | :) | 18:32 |
wxl | balloons: is there any sort of community testing for snappy? | 18:34 |
balloons | wxl, talk to elopio about that :-) | 18:35 |
wxl | elopio: snappy community testing? | 18:35 |
balloons | flocculant, wxl, also am I crazy or are we missing a lot of defects? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects | 19:15 |
flocculant | balloons: nope - not crazy - that's closer to what I wanted - 12.04 is missing now :p | 19:17 |
balloons | flocculant, ok so the only issues are the path print at the top (which is fixed in trunk) and the weird colors? | 19:18 |
flocculant | nooo | 19:18 |
balloons | flocculant, well for instance, we don't see daily | 19:18 |
flocculant | there are a huge number of bugs missing | 19:18 |
flocculant | dailies defintely - both xenial and trusty | 19:20 |
flocculant | I guess we're not worried about any trusty version released | 19:20 |
flocculant | no reason for qa to be interested in anything but current dev and lts dailies imo | 19:23 |
flocculant | as far as the tracker goes I add :) | 19:23 |
flocculant | balloons: did all the different merges land at the same time here? | 19:31 |
balloons | flocculant, everything landed yesterday. I'm trying to decide on whether to push forward or rollback things | 19:31 |
balloons | well, I mean everything as of yesterday landed. It landed early this morning for you | 19:31 |
flocculant | right | 19:32 |
flocculant | tbh - given the lack of anguished cries - I wonder if it is better to just fix the issues and not roll back | 19:32 |
flocculant | 2 weeks to next milestone for flavours | 19:33 |
balloons | well, indeed. Now is the time to fix.. Not during milestones :-) | 19:34 |
flocculant | :D | 19:42 |
flocculant | not sure you should roll back - just roll forward a bit quick :p | 19:43 |
elopio | wxl: hello. | 19:48 |
wxl | hai elopio | 19:49 |
elopio | wxl: the most useful thing at the moment is to get people to try building snaps. | 19:49 |
wxl | elopio: so less formal testing then? | 19:49 |
teward | balloons: ping | 20:56 |
teward | just to confirm: you said that 32bit Server ISO tests are effectively dead and no longer done by Ubuntu / Ubuntu Server QA? | 20:56 |
balloons | teward, yes | 20:56 |
teward | balloons: you may want to tell phillw that | 20:57 |
teward | incoming PM of PM log snippets | 20:57 |
teward | he reached out to me, since he knows I do stuff on the Server Team (nginx, general triage when i see it, etc.) | 20:57 |
balloons | teward, the best folks to ask about 32-bit images of server are the people who own them -- #ubuntu-server | 21:00 |
teward | indeed - was trying to find the release coordinator for Server, but never succeeded | 21:01 |
balloons | I can't speak for them. But yes, obviously the tests are exactly the same | 21:01 |
teward | will bring up @ next Server Team meeting | 21:01 |
teward | right... but I think phill's complaint is that people still have 32bit kit/tech and that not having the tests is "stupid" (to put it very mildly) | 21:04 |
balloons | I could certainly put tests there, but the product owners own those things | 21:05 |
balloons | regardless, no one is telling you you can't test or use the images; as you've noted they are still being produced | 21:06 |
teward | right, not saying otherwise, just trying to determine who I can poke to get phill off my [CENSORED] | 21:06 |
flocculant | /ignore works | 21:06 |
teward | lolol | 21:07 |
flocculant | http://assets.amuniversal.com/acc8547087bf01332a64005056a9545d is apt | 21:08 |
elopio | wxl: yes. More like exploring what's possible and reporting bugs about what's not possible. | 21:25 |
wxl | balloons: white on grey is bad!!! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds | 22:17 |
flocculant | wxl: that's what we were talking about earlier - there is a bug for that | 22:18 |
wxl | kthx flocculant | 22:18 |
flocculant | well | 22:20 |
flocculant | that's what we started talking about :D | 22:20 |
flocculant | you know how it is, got the boss talking about stuff and it just goes anywhere :p | 22:21 |
wxl | indeed :) | 22:21 |
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