=== JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:55] balloons, you may want to have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1533472 [05:55] Launchpad bug 1533472 in Ubuntu QA Website "Text inside tables in the results page cannot be seen as it is the same color as the background" [Undecided,New] === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [07:20] balloons: that's definitely something we need to sort out :p === tsdgeos_ is now known as tsdgeos === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:28] yea, the tracker is updated and looks a bit different.. [17:00] flocculant, wxl, tsimonq2 - I was talking to balloons about creating a terminal application (for a GCI Task) that allows you to set a testcase to monitor on the QA Tracker and the application will use desktop notifications to inform you when a new result is added and a preview of its data (eg. passed, comment, etc.) - Would you be interested in this? Or would it be a waste of my time to develop? Any specific [17:00] features that you guys would want? [17:09] If I'm disconnected by the time you guys see this, feel free to email me at whosdaz gmail.com [17:21] balloons: do you mean it is intentional to not be able to read things? [17:21] flocculant, no, not at all. I mean the change occured with the release [17:21] oh ok - I was a bit confused by what you said :) [17:21] We'll have to dig into it and see what happened. If it's poor enough, we can rollback [17:22] MatthewAllen: just this minute got home, will look at that very shortly [17:25] MatthewAllen, notice the critical bugs box flows under the bugs box at smaller window sizes: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110281/testcases/1307/results [17:26] And the bugs box overflows the section [17:26] balloons, hmmm - I'd assume that is because they never resize [17:27] MatthewAllen: not sure that I'd be at all interested in if I'm reading that right - I have about ~50 discrete testcases I'm worried about - that is a whole lot of setting up each time I reinstall the OS and given that I do that 3 or 4 times during a 6 month cycle - not going there [17:27] I'd be interested in an RSS feed via the tracker which would rely on me being logged into it only [17:27] flocculant, all good - anything specific you can think of that would be useful? that could be implemented with the QA Tracker API [17:31] MatthewAllen: well atm - I don't know if every thing we've been looking at is live, so a bit hard to tell [17:32] mmm - why am I seeing path to testcases in the top bar? [17:32] http://i.imgur.com/EL4RNdh.png [17:32] ..., that's my bad [17:32] will fix asap [17:33] ok - just checking :) [17:33] good catch, thanks for pointing it out [17:34] that was left over from me testing while implementing the fix for the 404 link [17:34] :) [17:36] balloons, for the bug mentioned above - should I just push a commit to the current merge for the 404? Can you sort it out from there? [17:37] fix pushed to https://code.launchpad.net/~whosdaz/ubuntu-qa-website/fix1194770 [17:55] MatthewAllen, yes I can remerged the same branch [17:55] mmk, I've pushed the change to the same branch [17:55] so you can do it whenever [17:56] I'm thinking we might just rollback on this [17:58] Is the sluggishness during software update is normal thing? [18:01] When I urn # sudo -u test sh -c "echo Hi" answer: Hi \n Sessions still open, not unmounting. Is it a bug? It does not forbid me from running the command but it throw an error that block the execution of local.rc [18:03] damascene: this isn't a support channel - try #ubuntu [18:03] I'm not looking for support [18:03] I think it's a bug if you can confirm it. I'll file a bug [18:06] balloons: fwiw i'm in support of matthewallen's idea for the qa tracker notifications [18:06] damascene, we have no idea what test.sh, or what you mean by sluggishness [18:07] wxl: but would you prefer something you don't have to set up each time you re-install? [18:07] like an rss feed from the tracker [18:07] during installtion, the disk and cpu usage goes up. That will make your pc seem slower than before [18:08] flocculant: yes, definitely [18:08] wxl: not that I'm particularly worried one way or the other - one I might use, the other I wouldn't :) [18:08] hehehe [18:08] actually i wouldn't mind even a daily report sent by email summarizing [18:08] well - actually I would use rss feed if it was a general thing [18:08] personally, though, i'd want to do it per image rather than per testcase [18:08] i'm interested in ALL the testcases for our particular set of images (and sometimes, other images) [18:09] I thought testcase number changed when new daily [18:09] i don't usually use rss feeds [18:09] which isn't to say i couldn't [18:09] for images [18:09] balloons, in short I'm telling a command to run as user "test" here is what happening http://paste.ubuntu.com/14489006/ [18:13] I do not want to go and file a bug then it turn out to be because of my mistake. I've searched different forums and did not find it common and did not understand what it mean [18:14] balloons wxl - I'm under the impression that when the build changes then the url does http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110283/testcases wouldn't be 110283 tomorrow for instance [18:14] not sure how matthew's tool would work [18:15] anyway - enough of that from me - I'd not use it :) [18:16] why not? His tool would use the API, so it should be fine [18:16] and yes you are corect [18:16] why not use it? [18:17] or some other why not? [18:17] well, I wouldn't have him build something that's of no use, heh [18:17] no sense in that [18:18] ok - well I did give him my reasoning ^^ - I'd not want to get notifications of ~50 things that I'm interested in [18:18] and on milestone testing when I'm 'WILL YOU PLEASE TEST THIS FOR US' it'd be a nightmare :) [18:18] flocculant: that's why i'd suggest a daily report [18:19] balloons: bug 1375456 [18:19] bug 1375456 in Ubuntu QA Website "no way to subscribe to daily reports for a particular product" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375456 [18:19] right and see, that's for a whole PRODUCT [18:19] which is what i'm interested in [18:19] yea [18:19] basically I'd want to know about xubuntu iso.tracker and package.tracker [18:20] same here, for lubuntu [18:20] occassionally i might want to know about some other image because i'm tracking installer issues [18:20] but again, that can be a whole product [18:20] (probably better if it is, honestly) [18:21] * balloons is trying to figure out the course of action to take for the tracker [18:22] balloons: i think you, as head of QA, will need to make an executive decision about how this is going to manifest itself, but my vote is definitely in for a daily report on a set of user-selectable products [18:24] ahh.. The decision lies with the one with creates it [18:25] meritocracy my friend ;-) [18:25] balloons: that's why i gave you my vote [18:26] ha ha ha [18:26] I'm using the I won't use that method of backing quietly away from this issue :p [18:28] from my perspective if there was an rss feed on 'product' then I suspect knome could add that to our tracker so anyone interested in xubuntu could see that [18:30] I couldn't reproduce the problem on 16.04 just in 15.04 for now [18:31] damascene: well 15.04 is just about to EOL anyway [18:31] ^ [18:32] I should hurry up then and replace it :-) [18:32] :) [18:34] balloons: is there any sort of community testing for snappy? [18:35] wxl, talk to elopio about that :-) [18:35] elopio: snappy community testing? [19:15] flocculant, wxl, also am I crazy or are we missing a lot of defects? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects [19:17] balloons: nope - not crazy - that's closer to what I wanted - 12.04 is missing now :p [19:18] flocculant, ok so the only issues are the path print at the top (which is fixed in trunk) and the weird colors? [19:18] nooo [19:18] flocculant, well for instance, we don't see daily [19:18] there are a huge number of bugs missing [19:20] dailies defintely - both xenial and trusty [19:20] I guess we're not worried about any trusty version released [19:23] no reason for qa to be interested in anything but current dev and lts dailies imo [19:23] as far as the tracker goes I add :) [19:31] balloons: did all the different merges land at the same time here? [19:31] flocculant, everything landed yesterday. I'm trying to decide on whether to push forward or rollback things [19:31] well, I mean everything as of yesterday landed. It landed early this morning for you [19:32] right [19:32] tbh - given the lack of anguished cries - I wonder if it is better to just fix the issues and not roll back [19:33] 2 weeks to next milestone for flavours [19:34] well, indeed. Now is the time to fix.. Not during milestones :-) [19:42] :D [19:43] not sure you should roll back - just roll forward a bit quick :p [19:48] wxl: hello. [19:49] hai elopio [19:49] wxl: the most useful thing at the moment is to get people to try building snaps. [19:49] elopio: so less formal testing then? [20:56] balloons: ping [20:56] just to confirm: you said that 32bit Server ISO tests are effectively dead and no longer done by Ubuntu / Ubuntu Server QA? [20:56] teward, yes [20:57] balloons: you may want to tell phillw that [20:57] incoming PM of PM log snippets [20:57] he reached out to me, since he knows I do stuff on the Server Team (nginx, general triage when i see it, etc.) [21:00] teward, the best folks to ask about 32-bit images of server are the people who own them -- #ubuntu-server [21:01] indeed - was trying to find the release coordinator for Server, but never succeeded [21:01] I can't speak for them. But yes, obviously the tests are exactly the same [21:01] will bring up @ next Server Team meeting [21:04] right... but I think phill's complaint is that people still have 32bit kit/tech and that not having the tests is "stupid" (to put it very mildly) [21:05] I could certainly put tests there, but the product owners own those things [21:06] regardless, no one is telling you you can't test or use the images; as you've noted they are still being produced [21:06] right, not saying otherwise, just trying to determine who I can poke to get phill off my [CENSORED] [21:06] /ignore works [21:07] lolol [21:08] http://assets.amuniversal.com/acc8547087bf01332a64005056a9545d is apt [21:25] wxl: yes. More like exploring what's possible and reporting bugs about what's not possible. [22:17] balloons: white on grey is bad!!! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds [22:18] wxl: that's what we were talking about earlier - there is a bug for that [22:18] kthx flocculant [22:20] well [22:20] that's what we started talking about :D [22:21] you know how it is, got the boss talking about stuff and it just goes anywhere :p [22:21] indeed :)