| bluesabre | Unit193: eat? | 00:50 |
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| Unit193 | I did, though wasn't that great. | 01:21 |
| bluesabre | knome: https://youtu.be/2lQnALrJ-0w | 12:06 |
| knome | bluesabre, mhm | 14:15 |
| knome | bluesabre, one thing i noticed there's no confirmation that the upload was ok | 14:15 |
| knome | bbl | 14:17 |
| sidi | Guys I really hope you plan on stopping shipping Abiword some day. This thing is a joke. Updated a 15.04 to 15.10 and for some mysterious reason Abiword (which I literally have *never* run on that system) has writte 412GB of data into ~/.config/abiword (well till disk was full) | 14:30 |
| sidi | I suspect a bit of a mess-up with debian preinst/postinst scripts for the Wily package | 14:30 |
| * sidi is done complaining :p sorry | 14:31 | |
| Unit193 | sidi: preinst/postinst don't touch users home. What was in that dir? And we've already stopped shipping it in favor of LO. | 14:47 |
| sidi | Unit193, it'll remain a mystery, I needed to ditch it because my workstation was kind of not working anymore | 14:48 |
| sidi | can the postinst run the app or other utilities? | 14:49 |
| sidi | and the app then go AWOL? | 14:49 |
| Unit193 | It can run stuff of course, but generally is run as root. | 14:49 |
| sidi | Is there anything special about the Thunar package on Xubuntu? I have the impression that Launchpad builds it without applying Quilt patches!? | 16:14 |
| sidi | I'm really confused... | 16:14 |
| flocculant | akxwi-dave: have you been watching the doodle poll for the next session at all? | 19:26 |
| akxwi-dave | not for a week or so | 19:27 |
| flocculant | k - currently the best is 3 for 16:00 | 19:28 |
| flocculant | was going to ask the social media peeps to bump that next week, bump the mail lists then set date beginning of the week after that | 19:29 |
| akxwi-dave | sounds good mate | 19:31 |
| flocculant | I think those are the weeks anyway - basically bump and then set in the 6 days prior if that makes sense :) | 19:31 |
| ochosi | wow, gnome is really doing a rather big redesign of the settings dialog... | 21:34 |
| flocculant | no need for settings anymore? | 21:35 |
| ochosi | haha, almost | 21:38 |
| ochosi | well at least it seems more locked down, the approach they're taking doesn't really allow for meaningfully "plugging in" extra settings dialogs | 21:39 |
| flocculant | :) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | (and i guess that is the whole point: *they* want to decide what is important to the users, and to some extent that makes sense too. but only to some.) | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | Well as long as they aren't messing with GTK, shouldn't matter. | 21:40 |
| flocculant | yea I know that - which is why I don't install gnome or ubuntu now | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: You have mail, btw. | 21:40 |
| flocculant | just makes me wonder just how useful this gnome replacement for the ubuntu software tool is actually going to be | 21:41 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: You open it, it detects you aren't running GNOME and fixes it for you. Doesn't actually do much else. | 21:42 |
| ochosi | tbh i've never seen gnome-software in action myself | 21:42 |
| flocculant | nope | 21:42 |
| Unit193 | I gave a few screenies, wasn't too bad right? | 21:42 |
| ochosi | but since the ubuntu software center is not a revelation, my general level of expectation is fairly low | 21:42 |
| flocculant | I suppose I'll grab the ppa when it shows up | 21:42 |
| flocculant | yea | 21:42 |
| ochosi | yeah, me too | 21:43 |
| flocculant | ochosi: but should we use it | 21:43 |
| flocculant | if we've been using usc and it's not really been supported - what difference does keeping it make? | 21:43 |
| ochosi | dunno, i'll wait and see what gnome-software does | 21:44 |
| flocculant | I guess that's best | 21:44 |
| flocculant | hopefully it'll show up at eow | 21:44 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Only FTBFS we have on the test rebuild/gcc6 rebuild is xubuntu-docs. \o/ | 21:47 |
| Unit193 | BTW, I can't login to the wiki to update the meetings page. | 21:50 |
| ochosi | a-ha a-ha | 21:50 |
| ochosi | from when on are we going to use the new wiki? (knome?) | 21:50 |
| flocculant | Unit193: I appear to have been logged out of there too | 21:50 |
| flocculant | ochosi: I didn't think we were using our wiki for everything? | 21:51 |
| ochosi | i dunno, i wasn't really around to follow the website transition discussion tbh | 21:52 |
| Unit193 | I dunno, but one that actually works would be nice. | 21:52 |
| ochosi | i just presumed we would use our own wiki once we have one | 21:53 |
| flocculant | as long as it's open to everyone | 21:53 |
| ochosi | (why keep info in two places?) | 21:53 |
| flocculant | if it's not open to everyone then that's just plain wrong | 21:53 |
| ochosi | yeah, i'm sure we'll find a meaningful policy for openness | 21:53 |
| flocculant | well | 21:53 |
| Unit193 | OpenID? | 21:53 |
| flocculant | ochosi: open is right - any sort of not open is wrong seems a good starting point | 21:54 |
| ochosi | what do you mean by "open" anyway? | 21:54 |
| ochosi | world-readable? world-writeable? | 21:54 |
| flocculant | that anyone can edit pages | 21:54 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Bad idea, because spam. | 21:54 |
| flocculant | just the same as the one we're replacing | 21:54 |
| ochosi | do they need accounts? can they edit any page? | 21:54 |
| flocculant | Unit193 then the same as the ubuntu one | 21:55 |
| flocculant | ochosi: nothing wrong with needing an account ofc - but nothing we currently have is immutable | 21:56 |
| flocculant | (when the ubuntu wiki works) | 21:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, the way to ubuntu wiki sometimes doesn't work sorta makes some pages feel immutable :p | 21:57 |
| flocculant | yea - but that's just canonical fail on wiki :) | 21:57 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 22:13 |
| flocculant | logged in - set date now | 22:13 |
| Unit193 | Thanks. Mine had a proxy timeout when I tried. | 22:14 |
| flocculant | I'll try and populate the agenda vaguely | 22:14 |
| flocculant | any need to bring -themes up? | 22:16 |
| ochosi | i'd ask bluesabre | 22:16 |
| ochosi | but generally i think we're on tra k | 22:16 |
| ochosi | some greybird fixes have landed, others are still due | 22:17 |
| Unit193 | Perhaps, but it highly stinks... | 22:17 |
| flocculant | ochosi: ok - just seems easier to add things to agenda while logged in then ignore it than fight to login again :p | 22:17 |
| ochosi | and the other part about not having >1 usable theme, well, it's still too early to tell | 22:17 |
| flocculant | added themes to the list | 22:19 |
| flocculant | we can ignore it :) | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Can you make it to the scheduled time? | 22:20 |
| flocculant | Unit193: anyway - done, not fighting google calendar tonight though ... hint | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Thanks. | 22:20 |
| flocculant | ochosi: my issue is that we don't introduce any sort of censorship into our wiki that isn't present in the one we use currently | 22:22 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: BTW, current images fine? | 22:24 |
| flocculant | ish | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | And thanks for reminding me about Numix, means I don't update 'alpha' :P | 22:26 |
| flocculant | Unit193: not checked today, yesterday all was good except black login screen after install, which went after login/out/in | 22:26 |
| flocculant | and blueman crash | 22:26 |
| Unit193 | Was thinking about another core update, considering last one was 31-Dec-2015. | 22:27 |
| flocculant | yea | 22:28 |
| ochosi | Unit193: i'll try, can't promise though | 22:28 |
| ochosi | it's not totally unrealistic that i'll make it | 22:28 |
| flocculant | Unit193: that was the other thing I meant to add to agenda ... | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Why bother? No status updates since last time. | 22:29 |
| flocculant | getting really itchy with my hat on with that now | 22:29 |
| flocculant | because that ^^ | 22:29 |
| flocculant | we should get it talked about - even if we end up thinking about 19.04 for it | 22:30 |
| flocculant | Unit193: you can update your one - I don't much push it, I think that slickymaster tries to look when he can | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Sure, I don't mean to push you or others, but may as well have it up to date, I see random hits on it after all. | 22:31 |
| flocculant | yea | 22:32 |
| flocculant | I understand that - and I *do* try it out now and again too :) | 22:32 |
| flocculant | what I'm after is it being on the tracker properly so we can follow it properly | 22:33 |
| flocculant | we should perhaps look at the website pointer to IRC and tell people to hang about for at least 15 minutes ... | 22:35 |
| flocculant | "Due to the real-time nature of IRC, it is often the fastest way to get help" > "Due to the real-time nature of IRC, it is often best to wait for at least 30 minutes after asking a question before leaving, no need to repeat, just have some patience. In addition many of your questions would be answered just as easily in #ubuntu, try us for the xfce side of your installation queries" | 22:37 |
| pleia2 | flocculant: shared package testing info on the social medias | 22:45 |
| flocculant | pleia2: thank you :) | 22:45 |
| flocculant | pleia2: next week sometime I'm going to have one last push of the irc session | 22:46 |
| flocculant | with the ordinary link | 22:46 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 22:46 |
| pleia2 | ok, I have travel+conference starting on wednesday, so I'll catch up when I am back at computer and not dead | 22:46 |
| flocculant | ok - I'll push it monday :) | 22:47 |
| pleia2 | wfm | 22:47 |
| flocculant | then ask you social peeps to do your magic | 22:47 |
| flocculant | then set time on the 25th | 22:47 |
| flocculant | assuming more than 3 people ... | 22:48 |
| pleia2 | I don't think I have people | 22:48 |
| flocculant | :) | 22:49 |
| flocculant | you're just one of the peeps :) | 22:49 |
| flocculant | knome: ^^^ "due to real time nature ..." just a thought and a draft one at that :p | 23:05 |
| flocculant | night all | 23:30 |
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