| bluefive | http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-dvd/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ | 01:12 |
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| bluefive | It says Desktop Image twice and the descriptions are the same | 01:12 |
| bluefive | what's the difference between these two images? | 01:12 |
| Tomiii | 14.04 vs 14.04. just look at the link | 01:15 |
| Tomiii | 14.04.3* | 01:15 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: you're right though, that it's poor documentation | 01:16 |
| bluefive | I see it now. | 01:16 |
| bluefive | Do you think Xubuntu is not beginner friendly? | 01:17 |
| Tomiii | well, that website isn't :P | 01:17 |
| Tomiii | they should have it in bold letters 14.04.3 vs 14.04 | 01:17 |
| bluefive | Tomiii, Also the page encourages users to download the 32-bit version by default. | 01:19 |
| bluefive | Whereas I think most now are using 64-bit systems. | 01:19 |
| Tomiii | how does it encourage 32 bit? | 01:20 |
| Tomiii | most people use 64 bit | 01:20 |
| bluefive | "For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure." | 01:21 |
| Tomiii | "For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc" | 01:21 |
| bluefive | That's what it says under 32-bit. | 01:21 |
| bluefive | Choose that if you are at all unsure. | 01:21 |
| Tomiii | haha, yes. it should say "Compatible" instead of "For" | 01:21 |
| bluefive | I really think the page is intended to push away beginners. | 01:22 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: what distro are you using now? | 01:22 |
| bluefive | Ubuntu. | 01:22 |
| bluefive | I thought Xubuntu, Lubuntu, MATE are the lighter versions. | 01:23 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: well, i wouldnt say "push away", i'd say most things in Linux world, are designed for the people that already know how to use it (not beginners) | 01:23 |
| Tomiii | it's just a lower priority, also-- making things user-friendly. It pissed me off at first too, but now i'm used to it | 01:25 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: yes, stock Ubuntu has Unity , which is copied off OSX, so it's easier for Mac guys. but i dont like it- plus it is slower | 01:26 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm | 01:27 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: i use both Xubuntu & Linux Mint XFCE. Linux Mint is more beginner-friendly, has more programs, more things setup out of the box for you. (Xubuntu is more streamlined) | 01:28 |
| Network2501 | !mint | 01:28 |
| ubottu | Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org | 01:28 |
| bluefive | Why such hostility to Mint? | 01:28 |
| Network2501 | that's hostile? | 01:29 |
| Tomiii | I'm not really sure. Good question. I think Mint guys and Ubuntu guys should be on the same team | 01:29 |
| bluefive | Tomiii, Why do you avoid the MATE versions? | 01:30 |
| genii | Tomiii: The main problem is that a lot of Mint users try to seek support in *buntu channels when there are differences which can end in disaster | 01:30 |
| Tomiii | Mint is just stuff added onto Ubuntu, to make it easier. | 01:30 |
| Network2501 | well no | 01:31 |
| Network2501 | unless linux mint started sending data to Canonical | 01:31 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: MATE doesnt have window-snapping. (but in Mint, it is easy to change window managers -- to use XFCE's window manager inside of MATE, to get window snapping. but maybe that is risky?) | 01:33 |
| genii | Mint also uses it's own repos for codecs. so if a user is having issues playing something and a helper tells them to install for instance ubuntu-restricted-extras, it screws up their machines royally | 01:34 |
| Network2501 | xfce + fluxbox... | 01:34 |
| genii | Little differences like this. | 01:35 |
| meercat | congratulations, xubuntu boots in vb on my macbook while ubuntu fails | 01:36 |
| meercat | i hereby declare yours the flagship *buntu distro | 01:36 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: here are a lot of tips: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ | 01:37 |
| bluefive | XFCE is supposed to be lighter than MATE? | 01:38 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: i don't like the word "lighter". That usually just means, lower RAM usage. --- I like "faster" (even if it uses tons of RAM) | 01:39 |
| bluefive | I'm mostly interested in keeping CPU utilization down. | 01:40 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: great example is Chromium -- it is not "light". it is very "heavy" on RAM. but because it USES the RAM, it is FASTER | 01:40 |
| bluefive | The point is this, Tomiii | 01:41 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: explains that it is better to *use* RAM, than have it sit there: http://www.LinuxAteMyRAM.com/ | 01:41 |
| bluefive | I want a snappy experience on a machine with a weak CPU. | 01:41 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: XFCE uses a "little" less RAM, than MATE, iirc. | 01:42 |
| bluefive | I like weak CPUs for two reasons: lower TDP means quieter operation and secondly I save money. | 01:42 |
| meercat | xfce runs fine on 1gb ram systems | 01:42 |
| meercat | any pentium will do | 01:43 |
| Tomiii | bluefive: as far as snappiness/speed, i am not sure. they are very close. good question. | 01:43 |
| bluefive | Tomiii, By the way, what's the chat channel for users here? | 01:44 |
| knome | #xubuntu-offtopic is the general chatter channel | 01:47 |
| bazhang | !ot | 01:47 |
| ubottu | #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! | 01:47 |
| craigbass76 | I might be numbing it, but I can't see how to put my laptop to sleep when I shut the lid. It worked with regular xubuntu and Mint, but I threw ubuntu-studio on (which uses XFCE) and it's not working. | 03:14 |
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| marie_ | hi, I am having trouble trying to share this Xubuntu 14.04 folders via Samba to a Windows computer | 07:39 |
| well_laid_lawn | !samba | 07:40 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba.html | 07:40 |
| marie_ | this computer does not show up at all on the network | 07:40 |
| well_laid_lawn | marie_: I don't know anything about samba but there's a couple of links above that might help | 07:41 |
| marie_ | thanks, looking at it now. I have already tried configuring Samba for a good while but obviously something is not right | 07:42 |
| marie_ | hmm I made some progress | 08:28 |
| marie_ | I can now browse the shared files on this computer, but Windows 10 laptop still doesn't see this one | 08:28 |
| marie_ | I got my issue sorted; apparently Windows 10 has a new version of the SMB protocol so I had to force it to use the older one. More info: https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/26e5fd75-f3ab-4ffe-ace4-ed4ba96f82e5/not-discovering-ubuntu-server-on-network?forum=win10itpronetworking | 10:01 |
| Luyin | marie_: glad you could solve it :) | 10:13 |
| xubuntu04w | Hello I have installed xubuntu 15.10 and my pc is unable to read audio cd. | 10:20 |
| xubuntu04w | unable to read audio cd ubuntu 15.10 | 10:33 |
| xubuntu04w | cd audio appears on desktop but reading impossible | 10:34 |
| xubuntu04w | soundjuicer finds tracks names on line but unable to extract. Cd reader spins and stops many times | 10:35 |
| exidux | Be patient. on irc people do not always answer withing a 5 minute range. ;) | 10:37 |
| exidux | within* | 10:37 |
| xubuntu04w | yes thank's | 10:37 |
| === dreamon__ is now known as dreamon | ||
| jarnos | Strange. If I run "i3lock --dpms" as an autostarted script, it will not unlock with the correct password. If I start e.g. xtrlock same way, it works. (This is on Mythbuntu 14.04 that uses Xfce4.) | 10:51 |
| jarnos | Would it be better to add it in ~/.bash_profile ? | 10:59 |
| jarnos | Is it possible that user could prevent the lock from being executed during automatic login? | 11:00 |
| jarnos | ~/.bash_profile did not work. I guess it is not for X apps. | 11:20 |
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| coriander | hi. i face lines in bright videos | 13:49 |
| coriander | it only happens on xubuntu | 13:49 |
| coriander | i have tried installing lubuntu-desktop DE and did the same on mplayer. it has no issues there | 13:49 |
| coriander | on xubuntu, videos get torn by lines whenever there is a bright scene (like lights, explosion, flash) | 13:50 |
| marie__ | hi, I have a Radeon 5700 series GPU, and the proprietary AMD driver. However, I cannot get any sound over HDMI working, and yes I have selected it in PulseAudio settings | 14:08 |
| marie__ | volume levels are as they should be, however there is no volume activity shown | 14:10 |
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| GridCube | marie__, while you are playing a sound, open pavucontrol and see if that particular stream of sound is going trhough hdmi | 14:11 |
| GridCube | each sound stream can go to different outputs | 14:11 |
| marie__ | I know | 14:11 |
| marie__ | it goes to the right one, but no sound | 14:11 |
| GridCube | in the last tab of configuration try different outputs for hdmi | 14:12 |
| marie__ | there is only one, Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output | 14:12 |
| GridCube | marie__, http://i.imgur.com/MBhXBVD.png is not like this? | 14:15 |
| marie__ | no | 14:16 |
| GridCube | mmhm | 14:16 |
| GridCube | it is selected as well on output devices? | 14:17 |
| GridCube | the third tab | 14:18 |
| marie__ | http://i.imgur.com/lpiTHbi.png | 14:18 |
| marie__ | yes | 14:18 |
| GridCube | marie__, even at the risk of sounding cliched, have you tried shuting it off and on again? | 14:19 |
| marie__ | yep | 14:19 |
| GridCube | many, many times, my sound issues get solved by that | 14:20 |
| GridCube | do you have the same issue with the generic plugin? | 14:20 |
| marie__ | generic plugin? No, I get sound through the Analog Stereo output from the motherboard | 14:21 |
| GridCube | do you have the same issue with a different media player? | 14:21 |
| marie__ | yes | 14:21 |
| GridCube | are your speakers turned on and with their volume up? | 14:22 |
| marie__ | HDMI sound, so only software controlled, and yes I have my headset plugged into the screen | 14:23 |
| GridCube | does the headset works properly somewhere else? | 14:23 |
| marie__ | yes, works fine with analog | 14:24 |
| GridCube | mmm | 14:24 |
| GridCube | ok | 14:24 |
| GridCube | no idea then sorry | 14:24 |
| marie__ | thanks for the try though | 14:24 |
| GridCube | i'd look if alsa-mixer shows the stream as not muted, i would try to restart alsa | 14:25 |
| GridCube | if that fails i'd try the generic drivers | 14:25 |
| GridCube | sorry, i gotta go now bbl | 14:25 |
| marie__ | yep, tried alsamixer, not much to change there | 14:25 |
| boira | hi! | 16:50 |
| boira | i want to install the latest version of gedit (3.19) | 16:51 |
| boira | i have installed 3.10.4 | 16:51 |
| boira | do you know any repository? | 16:52 |
| mariosm | hi all i have an issue with my xubuntu 15.10 if anyone can help | 17:14 |
| mariosm | i am running it on a lenovo s10e, i am using suspend quite often | 17:15 |
| genii | Better to just describe the actual issue to the channel and then see if someone can assist | 17:15 |
| mariosm | sometimes when i suspend screen stays black, lights and fan are on | 17:15 |
| mariosm | and the netbook does not suspend | 17:16 |
| mariosm | the ony solution is pressing power button for a few seconds to hard shutdown netbook | 17:16 |
| mariosm | loosing all my work | 17:16 |
| mariosm | the truth is that most of the times suspend works | 17:16 |
| mariosm | so i have not figured why sometimes it does not. | 17:17 |
| jdwwatts | mariosm what are your light locker settings | 17:22 |
| mariosm | you mean under power manager --> security --> light locker? | 17:24 |
| mariosm | auto lock session = never, lock screen when system is going to sleep = disabled | 17:25 |
| jdwwatts | yes but i dont now anything i just typed the problem into google and it had info but noy for 15.10 i dont usually suspend mine without fifishingso dont kow what mine does | 17:28 |
| jdwwatts | finishing | 17:29 |
| mariosm | most of the issues i found on the net was black sceen on wakeup | 17:30 |
| mariosm | while i got black screen while it tries to suspend | 17:30 |
| jdwwatts | i is it because it does it when you close your lid | 17:31 |
| jdwwatts | ok | 17:32 |
| mariosm | no, any kind of suspend. it could be i press stanby button of netbook, or standby from whisker shtdown menu | 17:32 |
| mariosm | ive got a lot of messages from cat /var/log/syslog | grep PM: but i do not know what they mean, i also dont remenber the time it last did it today so i can cross reference | 17:33 |
| jdwwatts | so it locks up when you try to suspend then you loose whatever you were working on wow | 17:35 |
| jdwwatts | its eyond me | 17:35 |
| SorcerousFox | I doubt this is related to your issue but when I used to have issues like you are describing it was an older toshiba laptop and the issue ended up being something about an unsupported bios/chipset because there was a lot of other stuff that didn't work either :P | 17:37 |
| mariosm | @sorcerousfox it could be, i wouldnt know. but everything else works fine though. just suspend works anytime it feels like it | 17:40 |
| mariosm | anyway guys, apperantely no solution, time to check alternatives | 18:00 |
| mariosm | bye | 18:00 |
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| xubuntu79w | hello guys | 22:21 |
| xubuntu79w | can someone help me to install a epson sx425w printer ? i m going mad | 22:22 |
| xubuntu79w | can t find solutions :( | 22:22 |
| xubuntu79w | thank you | 22:23 |
| pfalk | Maybe not the correct channel, but... I'm an Xubuntu newbie. After about 4 years using Ubuntu and in total about 15 years using Linux. Happy so far! :-) | 22:39 |
| flocculant | pfalk: if you just want to say that - then thanks :) if you want to chat then #xubuntu-offtopic is best :) | 22:57 |
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