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valorietesting is only one of the things non-coders can do00:00
valoriebelieve me00:00
valoriebut testing is awesome, and please file bugs for things00:00
valorieclivejo: I'll go check the progress of the xenial box00:02
* michelsedgh is going to report bugs :D00:03
valorieclivejo: on this box, after adding your ppa, and apt installing kdeconnect-plasma, I get: kdeconnect-plasma is already the newest version.00:06
clivejogrrr00:07
clivejoyeah, need to ask yofel about that00:07
valorieapt-cache policy kdeconnect-plasma00:07
valoriekdeconnect-plasma:00:07
valorie  Installed: 0.0+git20150810-0ubuntu100:07
valorieis this newer than the one you previously packaged?00:08
valoriebecause I removed your ppa, but didn't purge00:08
clivejono, stupid versions00:08
valorielate last year sometime00:08
clivejothe maintence is using letters00:08
clivejo0.9f and g00:08
clivejomaybe it hasnt been published yet00:09
michelsedghclivejo: oh the kde connect in opening my files has a problem, and it cant open my files on my smartphone! 00:09
valorieanyway, I doubt I added it for the xenial box00:09
valorieI'll check first00:10
michelsedghhttp://imgur.com/W6OWkJm00:10
clivejomichelsedgh: which version of kdeconnect-plasma?00:12
michelsedghclivejo: the one you gave me today00:13
clivejothats f00:13
clivejotry g !00:13
clivejoare you on wily or xenial, I forget?00:14
valoriesorry, I forgot the time00:14
michelsedghwily00:14
valorieheading to my dad's early for a meeting with hospice, so I need to leave now.....00:14
clivejomichelsedgh: try this one - https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/wily/+build/8844748/+files/kdeconnect-plasma_0.9g-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa2_amd64.deb00:15
michelsedghhm, my smartphone says that my laptop uses a newer protocol version!00:23
clivejois your smartphone updated to newest version?00:24
michelsedghyes, the latest in google play!00:24
michelsedgh0.9e on my ohne00:24
michelsedghphone*00:24
clivejomine it 0.9e on phone too00:25
clivejoworks fine :/00:25
michelsedgh:c00:25
michelsedghdo you have the link to the first one you gave me? at least that one connected to my phone00:26
clivejothis new version will have over written it :/00:27
clivejoyou could remove it and use the archive version00:27
michelsedghok thanks :) 00:28
clivejotry removing it off both00:28
clivejoremoving the devices00:28
michelsedghi did that00:28
clivejoit should work :/00:29
michelsedghi even rebooted my laptop(logout gave me a black screen :/)00:29
michelsedghand i cant manually restart sddm :C 00:29
clivejoeakkk00:30
claydohwill there ever be a Xenial iso with a working imstaller, or is there a fix?00:31
sgclarkclaydoh: could yah be more specific? is there a bug I can look at?00:48
claydohthe installer is broken00:49
claydohso Ill assume it is not necessarily a kubuntu  specific issue00:49
claydohlemme dig it up00:49
sgclarkclaydoh: which iso please, I will need to try to reproduce to have a clue00:50
claydohany daily kubuntu for the last 5 days at least00:50
claydohthis bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/153200900:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1532009 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu installer fails to proceed past language selection" [Undecided,New]00:52
claydohor better:00:53
claydohhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/152945000:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1529450 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[master] AttributeError: 'PageKde' object has no attribute 'get_secureboot_key'" [Critical,Triaged]00:53
sgclarkclaydoh: added to trello, thanks01:01
claydohcool, thanks!01:01
DarinMillerclaydoh:  I posted a work around for the xenial install yesterday.  It's kind of a pain (takes about 15-20 minutes to fix).  Look for my comments http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/01/12/%23kubuntu-devel.html.01:55
DarinMillerLet me know if you have questions.01:56
claydohDarinMiller: I know, but it is not woth the effort really, for me at least.01:56
DarinMillerAlso note, the xenial install also requires the  /etc/sddm.conf update to change PLACEHOLDER to plasma.desktop01:57
DarinMillerI can send you the ubi-prepare.py file and save you the 15.10 download if you like. Uploading the 935MB squashfs file would take forever with my network connection.02:08
cmakeshiftTesting 5.5 on wily. plasmashell is crashing at random intervals. Mostly when idling. Always gets back on its feet. But it is a bit annoying though.02:23
cmakeshiftanyone else experiencing this?02:23
cmakeshift(I'm using intel graphics on an optimus setup)02:24
DarinMillermy optimus system is running xenial which does not have 5.5 yet and backports is only configured for wily.   I will post once xenial hits 5.5.02:27
DarinMillerOn my intel gpu laptop, the plasma crashes whenever updates are ran (either manually or background) but this issue is known....02:28
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sandroidHi.. I came by looking to help with testing Plasma 5.5 PPA's for 15.10.   04:51
sandroidI already have a launchpad account, but it's unclear which of the CI/backport/beta PPA's I should use - and where I can find some test-case documentation04:51
sandroidok, just read the whole topic :| 04:52
DarinMillerJust a tester here myself: use ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing04:53
DarinMillerAfter the update, but before rebooting, update /etc/sddm.conf and replace PLACEHOLDER with plasma.desktop04:54
DarinMillerWaring, the update will kill muon, so all ensure you know how to update from the command line.04:55
sandroidI've never participated in anything *buntu, are there typically some well defined test plans, or is it just a question of having us play around and report back "anything"?04:56
sandroidI never used muon ;)04:56
DarinMillerI have not seen any formal test plans.  Occasionally someone reports an issue (which should be reported via kde.bugs.org) and the devs will ask if others are affected.05:01
DarinMillerfor instance kdeconnect does not work unless the latest version is installed (0.9g I think),  but not all packages are on in the landing ppa.05:03
DarinMillerAnother noted issue is that plasma crashes during update due an issue between the update plasmoid and some other component.  But, it restarts/recovers automatically.05:07
sandroidI plan to do it on a fresh install w/just nfs-common, chrome PPA and pycharm.  I do hope Kontact works well - I took a quick look at the PPA and I think there's a mishmash of versions of KDE applications - and I don't see Kontact/kdepim/kmail etc, so we'll see if it's the "old" Kontact or not05:16
DarinMillerPeople have also reported trouble with PIM.  Check the daily logs here to review some of the noted issues: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/01/12/%23kubuntu-devel.html05:19
DarinMillerAdjust the day in url to jump to desired day.  05:19
sandroid"People have reported trouble" is quite the understatement ;) Seems it's downright broken.  I guess I'll have to use thunderbird for now.  It's my development machine at work, I like having email :)05:25
DarinMiller:)05:25
DarinMillersigning off for now...05:29
nicolsmorning!07:06
nicolsi know its early but :) .... don't know if it is a bug or feature, but my blue breeze folder icons are different color in dolphin? they are now brighter and more cyan :)07:12
soee_nicols: yes they changed in latest frameworks i think07:30
soee_vip: what bugs you have ?07:31
nicolssoee_: that bug that i have, plasma crashing, i turned out that it is old stuff, related to task manager: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34276307:32
ubottuKDE bug 342763 in Task Manager "Crash In Task Manager Item Changed" [Crash,Resolved: upstream]07:32
nicolsmust go. bye!07:33
soee_on what version ? 07:33
soee_5.5.3 ?07:34
vipsoee_: I didn't upgrade yet07:44
vip(haven't?)07:44
soee_well for most testers all works pretty good :)07:45
vipsoee: you've convinced me ;)07:58
soeevip: you ar eon Wily ?08:03
vipsoee: yes08:18
vipsoee: bbl08:21
vipsoee: it works10:07
vipbut ugly titlebars as hell :)10:08
vipwsoee: still there's lag on login screen 10:16
sheytanguys, crash log: http://pastebin.com/yT52UBmL10:21
sheytanfrom plasma10:21
sheytan5.510:21
valoriesheytan: I never got that far, so cool10:22
valoriedid you get dr Konqui, and did you file a bug at bugs.kde.org?10:22
sheytanvalorie: sure thing10:24
valorieI was going to, but for some reason dr k said my crashes weren't informative enough10:25
valorieeven though I had the dbg packages installed10:25
valorieoff to be for me, though10:25
sheytanvalorie: it might be wrong and the infos are helpful anyway10:26
sheytanalways worth a try10:27
mparilloOn Xenial this morning, I got maybe a dozen new fonts with unmet dependencies.10:43
clivejomparillo: same here10:43
mparilloI seemed to fix them with  sudo apt-get -f install 10:44
clivejobut looks more like a ubuntu issue10:44
mparilloBecause we do not care about TTF fonts?10:45
mparilloTTF fonts = True Type Fonts fonts. and KDE does not use them, and we are migrating to KDE fonts?10:46
clivejoI mean that I dont think any Kubuntu dev have been involved in that upload10:46
mparilloTY10:46
clivejomight get better support in #ubuntu+110:48
mparilloThanks again10:50
vipwhm, plasma crashes, even with debugging symbols the report isn't sent10:55
clivejowhy everytime I drop into plasma does it load 4 kate windows?11:06
soeemamarley: http://news.softpedia.com/news/nvidia-releases-new-beta-driver-for-linux-with-support-for-new-gpus-498905.shtml11:13
soeemparillo: any idea if this one ha fix for the crashes we had in previous one ?11:13
mamarleysoee: Thanks :)  (By the way, I am also in #ubuntu-x and talk about NVIDIA would be more on-topic there.)11:14
soeeoki :D11:14
yofelclivejo: sorry, got distracted yesterday and ended up doing nothing productive11:28
yofelclivejo: what did you want to ask me?11:28
clivejoyofel: I packaged kdeconnect, but having issues with the version number11:28
clivejoupstream are using 0.9g11:28
yofelweird, but acceptable11:29
clivejobut 0.9+git2015.... seems to be more recent11:29
yofelyes, + >> g11:29
clivejohow do I fix that?11:30
yofelyou can test such things yourself you know: dpkg --compare-versions 0.9g gt 0.9+git -> exit 1 (false)11:30
yofelnow that's a good question actually :/11:31
clivejowould you have a look at it in my PPA?11:31
yofel0.9.0g would work I guess11:32
yofelcan't right now, will have to wait until evening11:32
yofelsgclark: debian renamed the git repo from discover to plasma-discover11:32
yofelthinking about it, our scripts will fail on that -.-11:33
BluesKajHowdy folks11:37
viphi ho11:38
nicolscan i have 15.12 applications in willy ?11:38
yofelcome again in a week, then "maybe"11:39
nicolsok, one week sounds great :)11:39
sheytanyofel: do you know maybe, why the kmail icon isn't from breeze?11:47
sheytanthat was in 5.4 and still is a bug imo in 5.511:47
yofeldepends on which one you mean. "kmail.png" is shipped with kmail, not breeze11:50
sheytanyofel: one don't simply change it, right? You have to change it in the source and recompile?12:00
yofelsheytan: the icon that's associated to the application is set in the desktop file, which in this case I assume is /usr/share/applications/kmail_view.desktop12:02
yofelthat says Icon=kmail, and kmail.png is shipped in "kmail"12:02
mparillosoee: I am not sure what you mean by "any idea if this one ha fix for the crashes we had in previous one ?" Are you referring to the link you sent mamarley? If so, no, I would not have any idea.12:03
yofelsheytan: there is a view-pim-mail.png in breeze, so maybe that's used by kmail 15.12?12:03
mamarleymparillo: Yeah, I am pretty sure soee meant me.  Sorry.12:04
sheytanyofel: it says Icon=kmail. Should i change to kmail.png?12:04
sheytanor svg?12:04
sheytanor the name of the icon from breeze, cause its not called kmail as far as i remember12:05
yofelchange it to view-pim-mail for a test12:06
yofelthe actually used file is situation dependent12:06
sheytanyofel: no change12:10
yofeldunno then12:10
sheytanyofel: where does kmail stores the icon?12:14
yofelsheytan: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/*/apps/kmail.png12:31
sheytanyofel: well, did my best. No change. Can you report this to someone?12:38
yofelcould you please file a bug about this? 12:39
yofelcould also be that the new icon is shipped with apps. I won't look into this until we're done with those12:39
Riddellnice comments from someone I used to share an office with https://paste.kde.org/pe3zbscna14:11
yofel:)14:13
sgclarknice Riddell thanks for sharing14:13
soeeUpdates notifications - it belongs to Plasma, Apps, Frameworks or system ?14:14
sgclarkyofel: ok on discover, does it still need a merge, I got distracted by KDE stuff when git was down14:14
* soee wonders against what bug report should be created14:14
yofelsgclark: it does, but I can do it later if you're busy14:14
yofelsoee: that's discover notifier14:15
soeeyofel: ah, yeah. sorry i thought i didn't report it yet but i did: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35761314:15
ubottuKDE bug 357613 in notifier "Misleading notification after updates installation" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:15
soeediscover needs some love, when it comes to notification, look & feel etc.14:17
cmakeshiftRiddell: As biased as I may be (this is kubuntu-devel anyway), I think he's right. KDE tech has come such a long way in the last five years, and Kubuntu is the best way to experience that.14:19
cmakeshiftSincerely, thanks to all of you.14:20
mamarleyI agree too.  KDE is awesome, and Kubuntu is the most awesome way to experience that awesomeness!14:21
clivejoawesome14:22
BluesKajgawd that word is so overused....but i agree nonetheless :-)14:26
MaxirideI'm hearing a lot of people on ubuntu-it (I'm from Italy btw) blaming riddell instead. And that his departure from the project will lead Kubuntu to die soon.14:27
Riddellblaming me for kubuntu being awesome?  weird these italian people14:28
RiddellI'm in trieste next week if any of them want to blame me in person for kubuntu being awesome14:28
yofellol14:28
MaxirideJust to inform you that there are many points of view, on my side I'm trying to help testing the new Plasma 5.5.3 also because I love KDE and Kubuntu14:28
clivejoI blame Riddell too14:29
MaxirideRiddell: ahah lol I don't think anyone of them will say it again face to face.14:29
Riddelloh I think that's unfair, there are many people who can be blamed for making kubuntu awesome14:29
soee:D14:29
clivejoRiddell conned me into packaging14:30
clivejogot me somewhat addicted14:31
cmakeshiftclivejo: maybe you can con me into it too14:31
cmakeshiftclivejo: is there anything specific where kubuntu is lacking manpower?14:32
yofelpackaging? :D14:32
clivejocmakeshift: LOL packaging14:32
yofelwell, docs too14:32
yofelTesting was too, but more people helped test plasma than I was expecting, so that kind of worked out14:32
clivejowe need to clone yofel sgclark and Riddell, then we we sorted!14:33
cmakeshiftyofel: people are looking at all the articles about plasma 5.5 and going "ooh, shiny"14:34
clivejomy 5.5 isnt shiney14:34
clivejoI want 5.614:34
clivejobored with 5.5 now14:34
yofelclivejo: you need to clone sitter really, although the rest of us is useful too14:34
soeebtw. the lottery in USA was today or is tomorrow ?14:34
cmakeshiftcivejo: that must be the bane of working close to upstream14:35
yofelwell, there *is* still apps if you need a broken workspace14:35
* clivejo isnt liking the new icons14:35
cmakeshiftclivejo* (serves me right for not using tab)14:35
sgclarkour lottery we find out today14:36
Maxirideclivejo: yeah me too, the new battery icon in the system tray looks "older" in style than the 5.4.3 one14:36
yofelcmakeshift: anything software development related or distro related that you aready did or like working on or anything that interests you particulary?14:36
cmakeshiftI want to get involved with the project, but it feels daunting. I doubt anyone here has the time for babysitting me but some pointers would be nice14:36
clivejocmakeshift: yofel loves babysitting14:37
yofelwell, we do babysitting too on occasion, sometimes that's the only way. 14:37
cmakeshiftyofel: I have been programming with Qt for a long time now (something like 6 years)14:37
clivejohes a bit scarey at times though14:37
yofelindeed, muahahaha14:37
cmakeshiftyofel: I am about to become a mechatronics engineer fwiw (not much I'd guess)14:38
clivejoa what?14:38
sgclarkoh neat14:38
Maxiridejust about it, someone without any programming knowledge, how can help the project? Except reporting bugs when encountered?14:39
* clivejo googles14:39
yofelcmakeshift: we don't do much programming ourselves, but we have a couple things in Qt or PyQt, and some plain python/ruby scripts. But we do lack people with C++ experience right now14:39
Maxiridecmakeshift: woah really? Me too but still a bachelor degree14:39
clivejoah, mechanics and electronics14:39
sgclarkMaxiride: documentation is always needed, no programming needed14:39
yofelit's the new mechanics title as you have a hard time finding something mechanical that doesn't have a chip in one way or another in it14:40
cmakeshiftclivejo: and a surprising amount of computer science14:40
Maxiridesgclark: thanks! I'll look into it.14:40
yofeltry fixing a car today without a computer, have fun14:40
clivejouse a big hammer14:40
yofelI said fix, not "fix" :P14:40
cmakeshiftyofel: I think I can help with that14:41
marco-parilloIf that doesn't work, it only means your hammer was not big enough.14:41
sgclarklol14:41
soeeMaxiride: when it comes to docs, talk with ahoneybun14:41
clivejocmakeshift: any good at fixing an inverter?14:41
cmakeshiftclivejo: inverters are temperamental af14:42
clivejocmakeshift: this one especially!14:42
clivejoIts breeding gremlins14:42
cmakeshiftclivejo: I envision green sparks flying everywhere14:43
clivejonope, just magic black smoke14:43
clivejoand that lovely smell of burning PCB 14:43
cmakeshiftclivejo: did you try reinstalling the OS? :D14:44
clivejoOS is on the chips14:44
sgclarkahh I worked in a PCB design shop for years, I remember that smell14:44
apol_yofel: do you know how can I reproduce the bug?14:45
yofelapol_: install the plasma packages and run 'sudo apt update', should already trigger it14:45
marco-parilloclivejo: The AMC Gremlin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Gremlin) was a notoriously unreliable car. And apol_ just pulled us back on-topic.14:46
clivejocmakeshift: I have one of these Im "trying" to repair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wtdi_z68RQ14:46
clivejoits a mod sine wave, not full like he says in video14:47
cmakeshiftclivejo: I was very confused until I realized it's for solar applications14:49
clivejolots of applications14:49
apol_yofel: got it, I pushed a fix14:50
clivejoDC to AC inverter14:50
cmakeshiftclivejo: oh yeah, battery to household14:50
soeeapol_: can you also tak a look at this https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357613 ?14:51
yofelapol_: thanks, let me rebuild the package14:51
ubottuKDE bug 357613 in notifier "Misleading notification after updates installation" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:51
cmakeshiftGetting back on topic, if there are any programming tasks for getting my feet wet, I'd be happy to work on it14:51
sgclarkdarn I am not a billionaire. back to work14:51
clivejocmakeshift: can you code QT apps?14:51
cmakeshiftclivejo: Yes14:52
yofelcmakeshift: if you know python / pyQt, there is something I know offhand. Otherwise I would have to look14:52
clivejoI think Rick could do with a hand14:52
cmakeshiftyofel: I know python but not pyQt. Shouldn't be too hard though14:52
yofelcmakeshift: lp 152945014:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1529450 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[master] AttributeError: 'PageKde' object has no attribute 'get_secureboot_key'" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152945014:53
apol_soee: good catch, let me look into it14:53
yofelour installer is a bit delicate... :/14:53
cmakeshiftyofel: would be surprising otherwise14:55
cmakeshiftyofel: ok, so I have to run the daily build?14:56
apol_soee: fixed14:57
yofelcmakeshift: probably easiest to work on if you log into a daily build livesession, then fetch the source package for the frontend. 14:57
yofelI'm not quite sure where the VCS for this is right now14:57
yofellp:ubiquity is the installer itself, but not sure if the frontends are in there14:57
soeeapol_: thank you !14:58
soeeyofel: can you include this fix also  ?14:58
soee*when rebuilding package14:58
yofelsoee: sure, it's on the same branch14:58
soeethanks14:58
cmakeshiftyofel: ok, I'm downloading daily-live/current15:01
* soee just finished kebab15:54
* clivejo is hungry15:55
* clivejo plays in the snow15:56
soee:D15:56
* nicols is going home15:59
jasonwertHello, I'd like to help with testing.16:00
soeehi jasonwert16:00
soeeyofel: do we have anything to test ^ ?16:00
jasonwerthello16:01
yofelnot any more than the last couple days. And LP keeps postponing my discover builds -.-16:01
soeejasonwert: please wait till plasma-discover with fixes finish building, than Plasma 5.5.3 is for test 16:02
panevesHi. I've upgraded Plasma packages using kubuntu-backports-landing ppa and I'm having issues with desktop widgets...16:02
soeepaneves: hi, what kind of issues ?16:02
panevesCannot resize the comic strip widget...16:03
jasonwertI need to reinstIs it prefered to upgrade from 15.10 or install 16.04?16:03
soeepaneves: this might be related to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35783516:03
ubottuKDE bug 357835 in Panel "Hard to resize panel when in vertical mode" [Normal,Confirmed]16:03
yofeljasonwert: upgrade, 16.04 has a broken installer right now16:03
jasonwertok, thanks16:03
soeepaneves: but for me resizing widget works pretty good16:04
panevesI was just testing on a KaOS virtual machine and the same happens16:05
soeepaneves: yes probably regression in plasma-desktop as mentioned in bug report16:05
panevesMaybe. I'm wondering whether I should downgrade back to 5.4.3 or wait for a fix in 5.5...16:08
soeepaneves: well if you don't do a lot resizing tahn you can stay on 5.5 :)16:08
panevesWell, I guess so... Are you using 16.04 or 15.10?16:09
soeei'm on 16.0416:10
acher88resizes OK here in wily with 5.5.316:17
acher88What happens when you drag the resize box?16:17
panevesthere's nothing I can do on the box. No handles show up...16:19
acher88on 5.5.x you have to click and hold the edge of the widget for a few secs to make them show up16:20
soeedid you unlocked widgets ?16:20
panevesyes16:21
soeepaneves: one more thing:right click on desktop -> Properties -> Tweaks and see if press and hold to drag option is checkked16:21
panevesThat's it... Clicking for a while shows up the controls. Then I'm able to resize. Cheers...16:22
acher88If that annoys you, you can turn that of in the 'tweaks' section of the right click desktop settings16:23
acher88http://i.imgur.com/QDObN8T.png16:24
acher88^^ as soee says.....16:25
panevesOk. I see it...16:25
yofel"Start in 14 minutes". 20 minutes later "Start in 12 minutes". It's been a while since LP was so bad at predicting build times16:29
clivejoseems to be very busy recently16:32
yofellots of disabled builders too, but the situation looks pretty normal16:37
yofelcould be that someone uploaded a batch of high priority jobs, but I don't really see any16:37
soeekernel 4.4 ? just a shot16:37
yofelno, but it seems like someone synced all the debian php packages for example16:39
soeephp7 maybe coming to ubuntu ?16:40
yofelwell, php7.0 is in xenial already16:40
soeeoh ?16:40
yofel!info php7.0 xenial16:41
ubottuphp7.0 (source: php7.0): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0.2-1 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 9 kB16:41
clivejosenile is cutting edge!16:41
soeehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/powerful-ubuntu-tablet-is-going-on-sale-from-mj-498924.shtml16:43
Sho_apparently all of the computers at Western Washington University college run Kubuntu btw16:51
yofel\o/16:51
yofelsoee: sweet, that sounds like a perfect thing to put plasma on :D16:52
soee:D16:53
* yofel isn't impressed with unity's rendering performance16:54
soeesomeone should kick lp, so it will start doing its job16:54
yofelunless they plan to use unity8, that might do a better job16:54
sgclarkok, found my wily vm, did upgrade. reboot worked, things seem ok, but a few oxygen icons reappeared16:55
soeesint unity8 planned for 16.04 ?16:55
sgclarkoh yofel, what is going on with xenial, why are we testing a backport before main?16:55
yofelwell, the archive still only has 7.416:55
yofelsgclark: because people16:56
yofelwell, we're testing both really16:56
sgclarkbecause people? I am lost haha16:56
soeei think both have the same issue / status16:56
yofelI always upload fixes to both, so there's little difference16:56
sgclarkanyway off to a meeting, but will geet back to apps when I get back16:56
yofelsgclark: did you merge discover?16:57
* yofel assumes no from git16:57
sgclarkyofel: no, got stuck with some kde sysadmin tickets sorry, you said no hurry16:57
yofelsgclark: that's fine, I'll do it once I'm home16:57
sgclarkI can after meeting though16:57
sgclarkyofel: ^16:58
sgclarkyes/no? 2 mins to answer16:58
yofelsgclark: I'll do it16:58
sgclarkvery well16:58
sgclarksorry... 16:59
yofelQuintasan: would you have time over the weekend to possibly help with uploading? We'll need a motu for the new sources.16:59
QuintasanWould Sunday be fine?16:59
yofelsgclark: np, as I said, there was no hurry. Just don't want to step on your work if you had done something16:59
yofelQuintasan: sure16:59
yofelI need to get someone to put ECM back into kubuntu-dev anyway17:00
yofelshould do that tomorrow before people are gone really17:00
soeeyofel: build finished from what i see, just not published yet18:02
soeeyofel: ping18:02
soeeyofel: if you could also rebuild plasma-desktop with this bufgix: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357835 would be perfect18:08
ubottuKDE bug 357835 in Panel "Hard to resize panel when in vertical mode" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]18:08
nicolshello!18:54
soee_hiho18:56
sgclarkhiyas18:59
nicolsdon't have any crashes today19:00
nicolshappy :)19:00
soee_yeah, also yofel added fix for discover notifier causing pasmashell crash19:01
nicolsi had this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342763 ... it is not related to 5.5.3, it is old stuff :) 19:01
ubottuKDE bug 342763 in Task Manager "Crash In Task Manager Item Changed" [Crash,Resolved: upstream]19:01
nicolsOne question: Dialog "file already exists" in KDE 4 there was a preview for images. I don't have it on KDE 5. Is there a way to enable/fix this?19:05
soee_?19:06
sgclarkyay ktp works19:11
sgclarknicols: I am unclear on what your seeking. Did it compare two images or something?19:12
nicolssgclark and soee_: this was in kde4: http://smg.photobucket.com/user/toddrme/media/computer/dolphin/file-replace-mockup_all.png.html19:15
nicolsand this is in kde5: http://s71.photobucket.com/user/nbelavic/media/file-replace-5_zps6rbn5esz.png.html?sort=3&o=019:15
soee_might be it was not ported to kf5 19:17
soee_like video thumbnails19:17
sgclarkoh wow that is cool19:18
sgclarklol19:18
sgclarkunfortunately nicols that is something that needs to be reported upstream kde19:18
soee_sgclark: but we don't know how it works in apps 15.12 :)19:18
nicolsok, will do :)19:19
soee_better wait for apps 15.12, test than and report if ths feature is missing19:19
sgclarksoee_:  fairly certain not implemented yet. I run on unstable most of the time and it certainly is not there19:19
sgclarkunstable being kde master19:20
sgclarkunless it was implemented in the last couple days hahah19:20
soee_:D19:21
sgclarkI suppose anything is possible19:21
soee_sgclark: are you able to backport one patch to 5.5.3 ?19:21
sgclarksoee_:  sure, but yofel has final call19:22
soee_sgclark: [19:08] <soee> yofel: if you could also rebuild plasma-desktop with this bufgix: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357835 would be perfect19:22
ubottuKDE bug 357835 in Panel "Hard to resize panel when in vertical mode" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]19:22
soee_ok than lets wait for his call19:22
soee_i think it is pretty important as users use panel in different positions19:23
sgclarkyeah I have seen some talk of it in here. 19:23
sgclarkgreat seeing all the new testers19:23
BluesKajwhat about us old guys? :-) 19:32
soee_:>19:37
sgclarkgreat seeing the old tester too lol19:49
sgclarktesters*19:49
BluesKajthanks sgclark  ;-)19:51
clivejoyofel: you home?20:41
Guest60576Hi there. Im willing to test Kubuntu 16.04 further by installing it locally on my laptop but the installer is broken with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/152945020:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1529450 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[master] AttributeError: 'PageKde' object has no attribute 'get_secureboot_key'" [Critical,Triaged]20:46
Guest60576What should I do then to install Kubuntu?20:46
clivejoinstall a previous version and do a distribution upgrade?20:47
fryfurysomeone need tester?20:57
soee_hi fryfury20:58
fryfuryHi20:58
soee_what do you want to test? Plasma 5.5.3 on Wily or Xenial ?20:59
fryfuryyes, on wily20:59
fryfuryJust need install from test repo and send something?21:00
soee_fryfury: ok, please add this ppa: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing21:00
soee_than upgrade system and report if all was fine :)21:00
fryfurySend report to...? where? :D21:02
clivejoon a postcard :P21:02
soee_tell us here, channe is logged and devs have bouncers to thay will read it21:02
soee_ah yes, and postcard to clivejo :)21:03
clivejosoee_: tell fryfury the bugs we know about!21:03
soee_well there is only one now, problem with resizng panels, but yofel probably will backport patch fr it soom21:03
clivejois the update thing fixes and in the langing PPA?21:04
soee_clivejo: yes it is fixed21:04
fryfuryI have notebook with optimus. It is very complicate to fix21:04
soee_fryfury: what is complicated to fix ?21:05
fryfurysometimes, on other distro it don't work21:07
fryfuryok, adding ppa, loading packages.21:07
fryfurywish me goodluck21:07
clivejogood luck !21:07
clivejofingers and toes crossed21:08
soee_fryfury: what doesn't work ?21:08
fryfuryscreen, which connected to nvidia. It is not kde trouble21:08
soee_on multiscreen machine ?21:09
fryfuryyes.21:10
fryfurySorry for n00b question. But which repo with test packages? Don't see21:10
soee_?21:11
soee_sudo apt-add-epository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing21:11
soee_uh small typo, should be:21:15
soee_sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing21:15
turgaysoee_:  muon does not work21:21
turgay muon : Bağımlılıklar: libmuon (= 4:5.4.2-0ubuntu1)  21:21
soee_turgay: muon is not supported/mainteind atm.21:21
soee_discover is now replacement21:22
clivejowb fryfury21:48
fryfuryall work fine. Have some problem with plasma-systray-legacy from other repo21:49
fryfuryjust remove package21:49
fryfuryso long wait new kde :D21:51
SergioEDuran1hello friends21:56
SergioEDuran1when Plasma 5.5.3 will land in the backports?21:56
yofelwill be moved from backports-landing to backports on saturday I think21:57
SergioEDuran1On Saturday? cool21:58
sandroidhi... will that happen regardless of PIM state, or did you guys manage to make significant progress today?21:59
sandroidI tried it yesterday but I like using Kontact alot, so I need to wait :)21:59
Guest8281By the way, which version of Plasma desktop should be on the final release of 16.04? Will 5.6 be present or not enough time?21:59
yofelsandroid: pim is applications, we can release plasma without working on that21:59
yofelor waiting22:00
sandroidright... i keep forgetting about that split22:00
yofelGuest8281: not sure yet, we'll have to see. We'll try to get it in if possible22:00
Guest8281Nice, thank you very much for your effort.22:01
SergioEDuran1friends I am having the systray icon update bug so I need get plasma 5.522:01
SergioEDuran1I will be waiting for the update :)22:02
Guest8281Me too, waiting for the Saturday update :D22:02
SergioEDuran1friends i want to share with you my desktop :) http://imgur.com/r2btJGg22:08
SergioEDuran1I hidden and them shown the network icon and I got it but obviously when I reboot my PC the icon becomes invisibe again22:09
SergioEDuran1but thre it is22:09
yofelximion: so you made discover depend on appstream. is 0.8.4-1 enough or should that be >= 0.9?22:13
ximionyofel: 0.8.4 is enough22:16
yofelthanks22:16
ximionusing it with 0.9 is of course the better idea though (some nice speed improvements and safer error handling exist in 0.9)22:16
yofelmight as well put that into the ppa then22:17
SergioEDuran1friends coud you package and distribute the Evolvere light pure aurorae theme on the Kubuntu's ppa or backports ppa?22:18
yofelSend a mail to the ML, then we'll see if someone has time or is interested.22:20
SergioEDuran1wich is your mail?22:20
yofelkubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com22:21
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SergioEDuran1thank you very mutch22:21
SergioEDuran1yofel: did you saw the titlebars on my screenshot?22:23
yofelyes22:23
SergioEDuran1these are the evolvere pure light titebars22:24
yofelnot too bad, although I prefer breeze myself22:24
yofelximion: are you intentionally not installing any of the notifier files? They're not in not-installed either though22:25
ximionyofel: they should be in the -updater package22:25
ximionI compiled Discover multiple times, and there were no files discover installs but that aren't packaged22:25
yofelximion: ah, so they are. I just messed up the merge22:26
ximion(--list-missing is nice for that)22:26
* yofel isn't working on +git so stuff fell apart22:26
SergioEDuran1hahahaha I prefer light titlebars for the breeze widget style, the breeze titlebars are good but I do not feel like it fits with it's widget style22:27
ximionyofel: btw, I used a recent git snapshot of discover, obviously :P22:27
yofelyeah, I saw that from the changelog ^^22:27
ximionI plan to release it into Debian when there is some kind of release of discover22:27
ximion(with the naming change)22:28
Guest8281 Yeah, Breeze titlebars dont fit with light theme like Oxygen theme22:28
yofel5.5.90 is ~soon, so won't be long anyway22:28
yofelwell, I'll agree on the widget scheme, which is why I use breeze-dark myself22:28
SergioEDuran1hahahaha I see22:29
ximionyofel: do you know why .90 isn't on the schedule page? https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_522:29
yofelximion: oh, I meant .9522:29
yofelI'm still used to beta1 being .90 :/22:29
ximion.95 is in March - to me, that's a long time22:29
SergioEDuran1yofel: seriouly if somebody can make the package I will thank you22:30
* ximion thinks about using a Git snapshot in Tanglu, to get more user feedback22:30
yofelmaybe we'll do the same an xenial, but for now I'll release 5.5 as-is22:30
SergioEDuran1yofel: could you put my request on the kubuntu-devel mailing list? I do not want to get constant mails from it22:32
yofelcan do22:33
ximionyofel: then take the appstream+qapt patch, so AS gets more testing22:33
yofelximion: that's in qapt?22:34
SergioEDuran1yofel ximion: so in the saturday coud we get plasma 5.5 in the backports ppa?22:34
SergioEDuran1I will be waiting22:34
ximionyofel: do, Discover: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=discover.git&a=commitdiff&h=97f1426d5806beae0456566e1cf6653341d64afa - but not in 5.5, the naming change is also not in 5.5, so it will be annoying to package22:35
yofelthanks22:35
SergioEDuran1well I will go to the bathroom22:37
SergioEDuran1see you22:37
SergioEDuran1and please when you move plasma 5.5.3 to the backports ppa announce it at the kubuntu news blog :)22:37
michelsedghsorry i know i shouldnt to ask it here but disabling kidle_inject could harm my device? i asked it twice in #kubuntu and nobody knew :c22:40
ximionmichelsedgh: well,  your device will consume more power and will probably get warmer too22:43
ximionnot bad per-se, but if you don't have a good reason to do so, I wouldn't disable it22:43
michelsedghyeah because when i play games and it gets warm, it actually freezes the game22:47
yofelok, discover done finally22:54
yofelnow to -desktop22:54
yofelsgclark: did you put the plasma merges into kubuntu_unstable?23:04
yofelMy plan was to have those uploaded together with 5.5, but they need to be in kubuntu_xenail_archive and in the PPA for that23:08
yofelnot really important for the backports though23:08
yofelso maybe I can look at merging stuff tomorrow. With you having done the hard part this should be fast23:09
sgclarkyofel:  yes I did, I was actually going to sit down and do a bunch of merges now. I will work in archive23:21
yofelsgclark: thanks23:22
sgclarkdid you do discover? can I mark that done?23:22
yofelplease update staging-plasma as well23:22
yofelyes, discover is done23:22
sgclarkwhat do you mean update?23:22
sgclarkput the new packages in staging ppa?23:22
yofelupload a new package, otherwise the safety check in the archive upload script will fail23:23
sgclarkor make packages and put in ppa?23:23
sgclarkwill do23:23
yofelsgclark: I'll do plasma-desktop btw. as I messed around in that just now23:24
sgclarkyofel: ok23:24
yofelsgclark: I'll also switch the plasma status page for xenial back on. From what I saw a couple packages have changes in _unstable that won't work with 5.523:25
sgclarkyofel: ok thanks23:26
nicolsi just noted one strange thing: i cannot resize widgets on desktop? that was working fine in 5.423:32
yofelplasma-desktop merge ping-pong done23:34
nicolsi switched to desktop and back to folder view mode, resizing works again ... strange :)23:36
yofelmitya57: what's a good way to add QML deps these days? Someone reported this: http://i.imgur.com/NkSXcyt.png and while I see that plasma-desktop-data is missing a dep to make the ConfigGeneral.qml work, I don't know how to properly fix the other errors23:40

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