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* slangasek waves16:00
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* cyphermox waves16:00
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* xnox waves16:00
tdaitx\o16:01
* tdaitx also waves16:01
cyphermoxeverybody do the wave.16:01
slangasek#startmeeting16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jan 14 16:01:42 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:01
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:01
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
xnox\o\ \o/ /o/16:01
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)16:01
slangasekchiluk tdaitx pitti robru infinity bdmurray slangasek barry doko cyphermox sil2100 caribou xnox16:01
sil2100Phew16:02
* xnox winning16:02
chilukguess I'm first..16:02
* tdaitx 2nd place!16:02
sil2100I still have some time to prepare the report...16:02
chilukFixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/maas/+bug/1484696 waiting on upload approval and SRU.16:02
chilukFixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1527062 Verification TBD.16:02
chiluk--done--16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1484696 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "Unable to connect to: ws://<maas IP>:/MAAS/ws" [High,In progress]16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1527062 in linux (Ubuntu) "XFS Deadlock on 4.2+" [High,In progress]16:02
tdaitx* Sort out freeipmi merge confusion (LP: #1527685)16:02
tdaitx* Checking OpenJDK 7 candidate patches to upstream16:02
tdaitx* Backport 8u71 security patches to OpenJDK 716:02
tdaitxNext:16:02
tdaitx* Backport 8u71 security patches to OpenJDK 616:02
tdaitx* Provide OpenJDK 7 & 6 with 8u71 security patches to the security team16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1527685 in freeipmi (Ubuntu) "Please merge freeipmi 1.4.11-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152768516:02
tdaitx(done)16:02
pittiautopkgtest:16:02
pitti - lots of manual maintenance mostly due to some LXC problems on armhf, and on a juju bug in prodstack; investigated with #juju and IS; nothing worked, re-deployed entire environment16:02
pitti - improve heuristics of which souce package version to download; not perfect yet (particularly for the kernel), but better for most cases (LP: #1517426)16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1517426 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "apt-get source the pinned versions, not the latest available ones" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151742616:02
pitti - Adjust deployment script to work with juju-local, as preparation for the upcoming virtual sprint and for easier development16:02
pitti - Attempt to move armhf testing into Scalingstack; first attempt failed due to LP: #1531768, alternative attempt with direct kernel+initrd boot is blocked on some Scalingstack fixes (wgrant was looking into that)16:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1531768 in linux (Ubuntu) "arm64 kernel and multiple CPUs is unusably slow" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153176816:03
pittimisc:16:03
pitti - unstick some packages in -proposed, do some library transitions16:03
pitti - ongoing: PostgreSQL 9.4 → 9.5 transition16:03
pitti - apport: fix tests with gcc 6 and some flaky test16:03
pitti - Help didrocks with running ubuntu-make upstream tests on autopkgtest CI; we found various issues both in the u-make tests and in the infra16:03
pitti - Fix wrong keyboard layout on console (#1531442)16:03
pitti(END)16:03
robrulp:canonical-mojo-specs16:03
robru* FINALLY got first successful train deployment in mojo CI in over 2 months16:03
robrulp:bileto16:03
robru* phase 2 of britney support: gating qa queue on britney approval16:03
robru* fixed a huge bug in britney configuration that prevented it from identifying regressions (britney was rubberstamping nearly everything as ALWAYSFAIL until today)16:03
robru* split qa signoff field into lander signoff and qa signoff, hopefully fixing much confusion.16:03
robru* many minor bug fixes and optimizations.16:03
robru(done)16:03
slangasekinfinity's not in channel; bdmurray ?16:04
bdmurrayworked on mojo specification on wendigo / devops environment16:04
bdmurrayfixed permissions issue with creating daisy and errors tarballs16:04
bdmurrayinvestgation into mojo spec failure to install cassandra and tried to work around it16:04
bdmurrayinvestigation into derived.archive.c.c access failures from the production retracers16:04
bdmurrayupdated daisy to remove ddebs entry for ubuntu-rtms16:04
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have daisy updated on the retracers16:04
bdmurrayworked with webops regarding upgrading the Error Tracker and charm errors16:04
bdmurrayreverted changes to error tracker charms for precise, created trusty branches16:04
bdmurrayupdated ifupdown bug with Stacktrace for seb128 / pitti16:04
bdmurrayinvestigation into apport not creating a SAS for an ifupdown crash16:04
bdmurrayreported apport bug LP: #1533349 and submitted MP16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1533349 in Apport "StacktraceAddressSignature is generated using suboptimal function" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153334916:04
bdmurrayinvestigation into release upgrade bug LP: #149768816:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1497688 in apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "dmsetup and libdevmapper1.02.1 fail to install, depend on each other" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149768816:04
bdmurrayupload trusty fix for apt bug LP: #1497688  / LP: #134772116:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1347721 in apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "Saucy -> Trusty upgrade failed: procps fails to configure" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134772116:04
bdmurrayuploaded xenial fix for bug LP: #151762516:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1517625 in biosdevname (Ubuntu Wily) "Typo in hooks/biosdevname" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151762516:04
bdmurrayworked on app-install-data-partner bug LP: #153119416:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1531194 in app-install-data-partner (Ubuntu Xenial) "13.04 "raring-partner" channel included in 14.04/15.04/15.10/16.04" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153119416:04
bdmurrayfixing ubuntu-release-upgrader test failures16:04
bdmurrayreuploaded bzr to Trusty SRU queue to get LaunchpadBugsFixed16:04
bdmurrayreuploaded bzr to the Trusty SRU queue for vincent (ftbfs)16:04
bdmurray✔ done16:04
* xnox what is mojo?16:05
robruxnox: you don't want to know16:05
pittibdmurray: FWIW, I briefly looked at that, but I can't make sense of that yet16:06
bdmurraypitti: I'd be happy to talk about it.16:06
barryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YlE_pLwU_016:06
robruxnox: in-house bespoke wrapper around juju, it's used to deploy all Canonical cloud services16:06
slangasek * merges16:06
slangasek * helped unblock a few packages from -proposed16:06
slangasek * triaging of IBM Power bug escalations16:06
slangasek * finishing up golang merge sponsorship this week (LP: #1524165)16:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1524165 in golang (Ubuntu) "merge with debian" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152416516:07
slangasek(done)16:07
barrypython issue 22995 (regression in pickability tests affecting cython-based packages); testing other issues with python 3.516:07
barryLP: #1526613; LP: #144050416:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1526613 in python3.5 (Ubuntu) "ftbfs asyncio test failure with 3.5.1-2, used to pass with 3.5.0-2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/152661316:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1440504 in libpeas (Ubuntu) "libpeas-1.0-0 depends on both libpython2.7 and libpython3.4" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144050416:07
barryclick-toolbelt review and sponsorship for pindonga (ultimately he chose not to upload it)16:07
barrypycurl 7.21.5-1 and 7.21.5-1ubuntu116:07
barrypython3 blueprint ping :)16:07
barrynew dput code reviews16:07
barrypython-virtualenv 13.1.2-116:07
barryreturning to dirtbike/rewheeling work16:07
barry--done--16:07
doko- gcc6 test rebuild finished, evaluated, and filed issues for all ICEs16:08
doko- gcc-5 test build from the ibm branch16:08
doko- python update for 2292516:08
doko- around 20 merges in main16:08
doko(done)16:08
cyphermox - back from vacation, catching up16:08
cyphermox - added MokSBStateRT variable in upstream shim16:08
cyphermox - dkms update for Secure Boot support.16:08
cyphermox - completed some outstanding multipath SRUs (herding testers)16:08
cyphermox - powerpc-ibm-utils SRU16:08
cyphermox - isc-dhcp merge for 4.3.3, with fix for bug LP: #118666216:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1186662 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "isc-dhcp-server fails to renew lease file" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118666216:08
cyphermox(fyi, isc-dhcp is in NEW)16:08
cyphermox - got pulled into a meeting about networking / wifi on phone16:08
cyphermox - lsvpd, ppc64-diag package updates16:08
cyphermox - more multipath-tools SRUs/bug fixes to be done this week16:08
cyphermox(done)16:09
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails16:09
sil2100- RTM Status meetings16:09
sil2100- system-image:16:09
sil2100  * Work on the testability branch16:09
sil2100- Image manipulation and copies for ubuntu-core16:09
sil2100- Landing Team tools:16:09
sil2100  * Add the map-image script to the tools, displaying rootfs->number mappings for images16:09
sil2100  * Modify commitlog generation scripts to create symlinks for other touch channels16:09
sil2100- +1-maintenance:16:09
sil2100  * Merged ppp, network-manager-pptp and fso-gsmd16:09
sil2100  * Briefly looked into the reason why ppp is blocked (ppp-modules for s390x)16:09
sil2100- Manual imports of custom tarballs for the tarball teams16:09
sil2100- Writing up a script for analysing the delta between vivid-overlay and xenial16:09
sil2100  * Started interpreting the results16:09
sil2100- Sync up on current touch device situation and get info for the future16:09
sil2100- Packaging reviews for dual-landing merges16:09
sil2100(done)16:10
sil2100caribou: you're next (if you're around)16:11
caribousil2100: I'm hre16:11
caribouhere16:11
caribouBugfix :16:11
caribou- rsyslog fails to start under upstart : More investigation16:11
caribou- DMB preparation16:11
caribou- LP1532146 - initramfs-tools nvme support16:11
caribou- LP1528101 - vm.min_free_kbytes crash issues16:11
caribou- LP1534106 - rsyslog segfault with juju16:11
caribou- Nut merge : waiting for sponsor16:11
caribouProject:16:11
caribou- Research on clvm/dlm supportability16:11
* xnox grins16:12
caribou☑ Done16:12
caribouxnox: I thought you would ;)16:12
xnoxfixed qemu16:12
xnoxfixed cloud-images, tested them on two operating systems16:12
xnoxfixed strace16:12
xnoxfixed procps16:12
xnoxrequested fixes for kernel, some are done16:12
xnoxfixed kdevplatform, libmpd, packagekit-qt (bootstrap)16:12
xnoxlsb is now in-sync (debian pro-actively took our remaining delta)16:12
xnoxdoing test-rebuilds with golang-go 1.6 beta216:12
xnoxdiscussed sever/d-i image automated qa, didn't do actions from that yet16:12
xnoxend of life for David Bowie & Alan Rickman16:12
xnox..16:13
slangasekmmm nut merge16:13
slangasekit's like faux nutmeg16:13
caribou:)16:13
cyphermoxoh, chicken milk, yes :)16:14
slangasekxnox: you worked on their EOL?16:14
caribouwould be nice to touch base about clvm/dlm16:14
caribou@AOB16:14
meetingologycaribou: Error: "AOB" is not a valid command.16:14
xnoxslangasek, i cannot confirm or deny16:14
slangasekany questions RE: status?16:14
dokohave a look at the ftbfs for the test rebuild ...16:15
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:15
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slangasekcaribou: clvm/dlm?16:16
caribouwell, yes : while clvm is in main, the dlm/libdlm packages are in Universe16:16
caribouand clvm relies on them16:16
caribou(aside from the dlm package being broken)16:16
cariboudo we have an official statement or plan of action on supporting a clustering architecture ?16:17
slangasekcaribou: are you asking about for 14.04 or 16.04?16:17
pittiI think this is ancient, from fabionnes' time16:17
caribouslangasek: I would say both16:17
xnoxcaribou, i see dlm in debian new, i wonder if that's better than our version of dlm.16:17
slangasek14.04, from what I can see, is an oversight; nobody reviewed the seeds to make sure that the things in there were things we wanted to support16:17
caribou14.04 is broken and if we plan to support it, we should fix it in 16.0416:17
bdmurrayregarding bug 1531194 - Its seems like an obvious fix do I need a test case for it?16:17
ubottubug 1531194 in app-install-data-partner (Ubuntu Xenial) "13.04 "raring-partner" channel included in 14.04/15.04/15.10/16.04" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153119416:17
pittiI thought our clusters are being called "clouds"16:17
slangasekcaribou: for 16.04, I think this needs to get out of the seeds16:18
slangasekhowever, it's a server team call16:18
xnoxat the time i touched it i remember cluster-agents got deprecated, and like i promoted clvm cause it seemed like the right thing to do.16:18
slangasekit's in the server seed16:18
caribouI will talk to the server team about it16:18
cariboubut do we want to have a supported clustering architecture ?16:18
caribouclustering as in shared storage access in that case16:19
slangasekthat's also a server team decision16:19
caribouslangasek: ok, will talk to them16:19
slangasekif the server team tells us the answer is "yes" and that they need our support for it, we will help16:19
slangasekbut we went two years before anyone even noticed clvm was in main and didn't work16:19
caribouslangasek: true16:19
xnoxslangasek, i wonder if that coincides with working 12.04 and people starting 16.04 migration prep.16:20
xnox(ie. skip every other LTS, because it over laps)16:20
caribouI have another "support" question : do we do any kind of test of Unity on the ppc64el architecture ?16:21
slangasekxnox: the question was raised because of a customer trying to deploy it on 14.04; so no16:21
slangasekcaribou: absolutely not16:21
xnoxcaribou, no desktops are support on ppc64el and ubuntu-desktop isn't/shouldn't be part of ppc64el.16:21
slangasekwe support ppc64el for servers only16:21
xnoxslangasek, i think i should drop ubuntu-desktop on unsupported arches.16:21
caribouok, that's what I needed to know16:21
xnoxas far as i know it's only really supported on amd6416:21
slangasekcaribou: for packages that are built on ppc64el, they get autopkgtests16:21
caribouslangasek: thanks!16:22
slangasekxnox: propose to desktop team? :)16:22
xnoxslangasek, sure.16:22
pittiunity doesn't have any autopkgtests, just unity8 (and that's alwaysfailed across the board)16:22
xnoxLaney, is it ok to make ubuntu-desktop like Architecutre: i386 amd64 ? or maybe armhf too, as i'm sure unity7 is not supported on anything but x8616:23
caribouwe've seen people try to start Unity on ppc64el with vesa but it fails badly16:23
slangasekdoko: you wanted to talk about test build failures?16:23
Trevinhounity7 used to work in armhf... Not tried for long time, though16:23
dokoslangasek, no talk, just mention the regressions16:24
xnoxLaney, cause we got a unity7/ppc64el support request, and we're like "no, no no no no" https://youtu.be/31g0YE61PLQ16:24
cyphermoxre: unity7: might some people want powerpc?16:24
slangasekcaribou: IBM has certainly asked about running a desktop; but that's out of scope for our engagement on ppc64el16:25
caribouxnox: I wouldn't say "support request" but rather "support questino"16:25
slangasekdoko: maybe repaste the link here?16:25
xnoxTrevinho, i'm pretty sure this one time X got updated, and we didn't get new armhf blobs for egl (somewhere) thus unity7 stopped working.16:25
xnoxtoshiba AC100 ?!16:25
xnoxogra_, would remember16:25
dokohttp://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html16:25
slangasek[LINK] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html16:25
slangasekdoko: thanks :)16:25
slangasekonly 35 build failures in main?  clearly we aren't breaking the release hard enough16:26
slangaseka lot of familiar names on that list (shim, yaboot).  shim will get updated this cycle (cyphermox) so that'll take care of thato ne16:27
doko[LINK] http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-pie-z-now-xenial.html16:27
cyphermoxyup16:27
dokopie will do that for u s...16:27
slangasekdoko: right, do you have the PIE build test link?16:28
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cyphermoxI already had to rebuild shim here to test stuff, and hit the bug, and fixed it with the fix we already have committed16:28
xnoxslangasek, well, things did get fixed since the rebuild =)16:28
slangasekxnox: which the rebuild status pages track, if so16:28
dokoand 980 packages ftbfs with GCC 616:29
slangasek7 extra build failures in main w/ PIE16:30
slangasekmanageable!16:30
slangasekbtw16:30
slangasekI had an email conversation with the server team about trying to get caught up on merges before the LTS16:30
slangasekthey're pushing hard to get there16:30
slangasekbut they're short on uploaders16:31
slangasekso upload sponsorship is going to be key for helping them get through this backlog16:31
cyphermoxI thought I already offered stgraber my services16:31
slangasekif you have cycles to spare, please send them there16:31
cyphermox(so he could tell them)16:31
slangasekcyphermox: not sure if the message got passed, maybe you want to flag rbasak or jgrimm :)  but let's see if we figure out a more systematic way to organize upload sponsorships16:32
cyphermoxyup16:32
cyphermoxsponsoring overview? ;)16:32
slangasekdoko: fewer build failures in universe when turning -pie on? hmmm16:33
slangasekis the PIE rebuild complete?16:33
jgrimmthanks slangasek! indeed help with sponsorships and mentoring in general would be greatly appreciated.16:33
caribouslangasek: jgrimm: isn't that was +1 maintenance was suppose to achieve ?16:34
cyphermoxmaybe16:35
cyphermoxcaribou: sponsoring things in a timely manner is always an issue though, not limited to +116:35
slangasekcaribou: +1 maintenance is really the structure of rotating individuals in to work on archive tasks... merges are a minor part of that16:35
cyphermoxpeople send patches all the time16:35
caribouslangasek: ah, ok, I understood otherwise16:36
slangasekok16:36
cyphermox+1 maint is probably also sending people down the deep end if they're just starting to upload16:36
slangasekother business, Monday is a bank holiday here in the US16:37
slangasekso some of us are off16:37
* barry will probably swapday it16:37
slangasek(either Monday, or a nearby swap day)16:37
dokoslangasek, I hope so ...16:37
dokoslangasek, it's only three archs16:38
slangasekdoko: ahh true16:38
slangaseklooking at the per-arch failures, amd64 increases from 760 to 964 - so indeed, there are more failures there16:38
bdmurrayI'll be out tomorrow instead fwiw16:38
slangasekok, anything else today?16:39
pittislangasek: vsprint?16:40
slangasekpitti: will follow up by email on that with details16:40
slangasek(today)16:40
pittislangasek: ah, ok16:40
slangaseksounds like that's it, then16:42
slangasek#endmeeting16:42
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jan 14 16:42:11 2016 UTC.16:42
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-14-16.01.moin.txt16:42
slangasekthanks!16:42
caribouslangasek: thanks!16:42
barrythanks!16:42
pitticheers16:46
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