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conkey3uh Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) reaches End of Life on February 4 2016 o_O07:59
conkey3so.. when will the phone move to 16.04?08:00
conkey3and a newer android stack08:00
MikaelaWith 16.04 I would assume it waits at least for it to have stable release08:06
conkey3Mikaela, right08:10
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conkey3steamlink sdk https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steamlink-sdk08:24
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JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Organise Your Home Day! 😃09:18
RMJanyone ruunning rc-proposed? How's it looking?09:31
morphisogra_: ping10:02
V99we10:10
ogra_morphis, yo10:16
morphisogra_: you remember why we're not doing dual landing for ubuntu-touch-session?10:16
robin-heroRMJ, it looks okay most of the times, but today my phone ran out of battery at night (from 43%) and didn't alarm for wake up... :(10:16
ogra_morphis, no, i dont, feel free to change it10:17
morphisogra_: hm, ok10:17
NycticebuscoucanHi guys, i am looking for a xmpp client app for ubuntu touch on my bq aquaris 4.5 are there perhaps easy ways to port xabber (android) to ubuntu?11:19
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mardytvoss: hi! I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/providers-dir/+merge/280724, when you have some time12:28
morphisogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~morphis/ubuntu-touch-session/sync-vivid-and-droid-discover/+merge/28257912:37
tvossmardy, ack and thx :) on the list12:43
tvossmardy, also: a happy new year12:43
mardytvoss: thanks, same to you! :-)12:44
tvossmardy, thank you :912:45
popeyahayzen, jibel tells me that from your list at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14415863/ that bug 1531296 is fixed in rc-proposed, so that's good, one down.12:57
ubot5bug 1531296 in Canonical System Image "When in shuffle mode it does not repeat if repeat was disabled before enabling shuffle" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153129612:57
ahayzenpopey, top two should have landed :-)12:58
ahayzenand i need to report a few more minor ones12:58
jibelpopey, the status of bug 1518157 is not clear from the changeloog in comment 212:59
ubot5bug 1518157 in qtmultimedia-opensource-src (Ubuntu RTM) "Need to be able todo Playlist.Random | Playlist.Loop in QML to accomodate or all playbackModes" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/151815712:59
jibelahayzen, the changelog entries says "Until bug 1518157 (RandomAndLoop playbackMode) is fixed..." so it is fixed or or not?13:00
ahayzenjibel, it is a workaround that makes the music-app function as before...until there is support for the additional functionality later13:00
ahayzenjibel, as at the moment there is no way todo Random with repeat off....and Random with repeat on... as two separate things.... so we made it match what the current app does, which is random with repeat on13:01
ahayzenso no regressions :-)13:01
jibelahayzen, okay, so this bug can be set to 'fixed'?13:02
ahayzenwhich one?13:02
jibel151815713:02
ahayzeni think that still stands13:02
jibelit's marked released for qtubuntu-media13:02
ahayzenas you cannot do Playlist.Random + Playlist.Repeat13:03
ahayzenjibel, seems the think that generated the changelog automatically put that bug as fixed, when it was just referencing it, i think13:05
ahayzen*the thing13:05
jibelahayzen, right. I'll reset the status13:06
NycticebuscoucanHi guys, i am looking for a xmpp client app for ubuntu touch on my bq aquaris 4.5 are there perhaps easy ways to port xabber (android) to ubuntu?13:16
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popeypmcgowan, heya, any chance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1472186 can go on your radar pls?13:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 1472186 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Can't install libconnectivity-qt1-dev on multiarch" [High,Confirmed]13:40
popeyIt's slowing down development of dekko, by preventing builds from being done in a chroot, but have to be done on-device.13:41
ThierryHi everybody13:42
ThierryI just installed Ubuntu touch on my device13:42
ThierryAnd i want to know how can i see videos with subtitle13:42
ThierryIn fact i like watch films in vost but it seems that the default player don't print the subtitle13:43
pmcgowanpopey, will take a look13:47
pmcgowanpopey, while I have you where do we stand with new music app13:47
popeyI am listening to music with it right now13:48
popeywe have a click that we're testing, a few known issues13:48
popeyThierry, we don't support subtitles yet. sorry.13:48
ThierryAnd there is no other video player that i can install which supports that feature ?13:49
pmcgowanpopey, can it land like todayish13:49
popeydepends if we find any more issues with media-hub13:50
popeywe can certainly submit it to QA13:50
popeyahayzen, ^13:50
ahayzenpopey, that issue you just found should be fixed ideally :-/13:56
ahayzenpopey, people wouldn't like you music stopping and queue being emptied each time a SMS/telegram notification sounds :-/13:57
ahayzenpopey, did you report a bug for it? or do you want me to report one?13:57
popeynot yet, could you, you got a photo/screenshot?14:01
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ahayzenpopey, i could maybe film it, but it is pretty easy to explain...i'll write one up then we can add a video later14:01
popeyok14:01
popeythanks14:01
Thierrynobody knows ?14:03
popeyThierry, nobody knows what?14:04
popeyoh, no.14:04
ThierryHum that's not cool...14:05
ThierryAnd there is no way i can run vlc or install another media player with apt-get for example ?14:06
ahayzenpopey, can you confirm bug 1534172 ?14:08
ubot5bug 1534172 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "With bgplaylists if an alert sounds, the playback stops and the queue is lost" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153417214:08
popeyya14:11
popeydone14:11
popeyThierry, someone would need to port vlc14:11
ahayzenthanks popey :-)14:11
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pmcgowanpopey, why is that bug filed against indicator-network14:20
popeynot sure, I didn't file it.14:20
pmcgowanSaviq, ^^14:21
pmcgowanbug #147218614:21
ubot5bug 1472186 in indicator-network (Ubuntu) "Can't install libconnectivity-qt1-dev on multiarch" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147218614:21
Saviqpmcgowan, that's where libconnectivity-qt1 comes from14:21
pmcgowanoh14:21
Saviqpmcgowan, was a separate package before, got merged into indicator-network and we're in that situation since14:21
pmcgowanright now I recall14:22
Saviqthe problem is roughly that it pulls in indicator-network itself14:22
raph_aelhi, I have a nexus with touch 15.04, will 15.10 be available through updates, or is there something else to do ? thanks14:22
Saviqwhich means it pulls in half of the world14:22
popeyraph_ael, we're not going to 15.1014:23
raph_aelpopey: oh, what does that mean ?14:23
popeyraph_ael, you'll keep getting 15.04 + updates, until we move to 16.04 (I think), when you'll get that OTA14:23
raph_aelpopey: ok thanks14:23
popeynp14:23
raph_aelpopey: is there a technical reason or something about stable/dev releases ?14:24
popeyi think just because it slows us (phone team) down to keep moving to new release every 6 months14:25
popeyand the standard ubuntu release cycle doesn't line up well with hardware releases14:25
pmcgowanwell 15.10 introduced the abi break with gcc14:25
popeyoh yeah.14:25
popeythat too14:25
pmcgowanso yeah technical issue as well14:25
raph_aelthanks both :)14:25
raph_ael6 months is indeed quick specially for mobile os14:26
raph_aelbut well it works better for me than Firefox Os that I used just before14:26
ThierrySomeone knows which is the default root password for ubuntu touch ???14:26
popeyWe use sudo, and the password will be whatever you set it to14:27
jibelThierry, there is no root password. However you can sudo with the passcode you set on first boot.14:27
popeyThe phone pin/passphrase.14:27
ThierryThank you popey14:27
ThierryIs it hard to print the subtitle of a .mkv file ?14:45
popeyjhodapp, has subtitle support been factored into mediaplayer? Or never considered?14:47
ThierryBecause i'm programmer14:48
ThierrySo if it is not so difficult i can help until sunday lol14:48
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/mediaplayer-app is the code :)14:48
jhodapppopey, it's been considered but has not been a high priority feature yet14:49
popeyok14:49
ThierryIs the code well commented or ... ?14:49
jhodapppopey, but it'd be a perfect feature for a community member to work to add14:49
popeyagreed14:49
ThierryHey wait, i don't say i will add this feature14:50
ThierryI know very slightly QML lol14:50
ThierryAnd i first have to understand the code lol14:50
popeyyeah, he was just saying it would be a good thing to contribute14:50
ThierrySo if i understand weel the mainly code is in the mediaplayer.cpp14:51
Thierrywell*14:53
NycticebuscoucanHi guys, i am looking for a xmpp client app for ubuntu touch on my bq aquaris 4.5 are there perhaps easy ways to port xabber (android) to ubuntu?14:57
popeyNycticebuscoucan, dont think one exists yet, there's mention I have seen in the past that xmpp support might be added to messaging-app but not done yet as far as I know14:59
ssweenyNycticebuscoucan, no XMPP client as of yet nor will android apps be easy to port. There is however a messging framework on the way (ETA unknown I'm afraid) that will make it easy to write one14:59
Nycticebuscoucanthank you popey and ssweeny I hope it will be implemented soon. Do you know if "normal" ubuntu "apps" like pidgin could work ob the phone and if yes how would i do it?15:01
ThierryNo because of mir ><15:02
dobeyno, but not because of mir15:02
Nycticebuscoucan:) absolutely no chance?15:03
dobeygtk+ has a mir back-end already for some time. the problem with messaging apps is dealing with lifecycle/confinement issues15:03
dobeyyou can run pidgin on your phone if you want to break your phone, but you get to keep all the pieces. it's not a supported thing to do that :)15:03
dobeythe messaging framework already being used on the phone is telepathy15:04
dobeywe just don't have UI for dealing with IM services at the moment, and all the IM service back-ends are not enabled on the phone15:04
Nycticebuscoucanok this sounds a little bit too complicated for me :) anyway I would be happy to have xmpp on the phone if possible also with OTR :)15:07
Nycticebuscoucantanks you for your help anyway15:08
dobeyyes, it would be nice to have all the IM services on the phone15:09
dobeypopey: what is dekko trying to use unsupported API for?15:11
ssweenythe xmpp plugin for telepathy is shipped on the phone IIRC but there's no UI to use it15:11
ssweenyalso telepathy's xmpp support is lacking when it comes to mobile15:11
popeydobey, hmm?15:11
dobeypopey: afaik we don't support most of the C++ APIs we have qml modules for, in the SDK.15:12
Nycticebuscoucanyes, i just read that - that s really bad. So no chance for xmmp with otr in the near future?15:13
dobeypopey: so i'm curious as to what dekko is trying to do that it's trying to link to the C++ API15:13
dobeyssweeny: the module is there, but blacklisted afaik15:13
ssweenyI think it'll activate if you make an account from the command line15:14
dobeyNycticebuscoucan: i don't know what "near future" means exactly, or where any of the work on adding support for IM stands15:14
ssweenybut messaging-app doesn't work with it15:14
neoscreenagerhi guys, I am trying to run ubuntu-emulator on ubuntu 15.10 64bit, but its not booting up.15:30
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neoscreenagerits not booting further after these lines :  Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@32011.service15:34
neoscreenager/lib/init/init-d-script: 12: /etc/rc2.d/S02whoopsie: -c: not found15:34
neoscreenagerbasename: missing operand15:34
neoscreenagerplease suggest how to proceed15:35
ThierryJust a question : apparently there is a library (libmatroska) which parse subtitle file of .mkv15:36
ThierrySo in the hypothesis what i will try to develop a subtitle feature for the player can i use this library ?15:37
pmcgowanneoscreenager, the emulator is a bit busted atm, in my experience it starts around 1/3 of the time, but there are also issues with input events we are fixing15:38
pmcgowanThierry, however gstreamer supports it, seems it has a good plugin for matroska15:44
ThierryThe problem is that i don't where to begin15:45
ThierryWhat tools can i use, where i have to put the code15:45
ThierryMy idea is clear : i parse that fucking mkv file, find the subtitle and print it15:45
ThierryBut how am i supposed to do it is the problem15:46
tvossThierry, you want to get started looking at lp:media-hub, it is the central service doing the decoding15:47
tvossThierry, there are two ways to achieve what you want: (1.) render the subtitles onto the image on the service side or (2.) adjust the media hub api's to provide a synchronized subtitle stream15:48
ThierryAlright i will try to found this15:48
ThierryBecause i don't know launchpad15:49
ThierryI know to code but not how to use communatary tools (except git) lol15:49
tvossThierry, launchpad.net/media-hub15:49
ThierryBut thank you for directing me :)15:50
tvossThierry, sure, but just so you know: both (1.) and (2.) are far from trivial :)15:50
tvossThierry, and obviously: all help and contributions welcome15:50
neoscreenagerpmcgowan, then should I try with LTS, I have my other comuputer running on LTS15:51
pmcgowanneoscreenager, no it won't work currently, its not the desktop version it is the emulator image that is busted, we hope to fix it very soon15:52
Thierrytvoss : So if i understand well i have to make a directory subtitle in /src lol?15:53
Thierrya directory full of code of course15:53
tvossThierry, well, I would propose to add it to gstreamer first. We can work together on exposing the actual via public interfaces after that15:54
tvossThierry, http://docs.gstreamer.com/display/GstSDK/Playback+tutorial+2%3A+Subtitle+management seems to be a good place to get started15:55
tvossThierry, we are using a playbin in media-hub15:55
ThierrySo the work is : in gstreamer/engine.cpp when gstreamer print the image it prints also subtitle ?15:55
ThierryAlright thank you for the documentation15:55
ThierryBut if i modify the code how will i be able to test it ?15:57
ThierryIf i download the source of media hub and compile on my computer (ubuntu 15.10 desktop) it will run ?15:57
tvossThierry, engine.cpp does not render the image, the image (or a reference to a buffer on the gpu) is streamed to the client (the mediaplayer app)15:57
tvossThierry, it will only work on the phone right now15:58
Thierryoh crap15:58
ThierryJust say me how i will have to work : (1) download the code (2) modify the code on my pc (3) put the code on the phone (4) compile on the phone ?16:00
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tvossThierry, yup, we usually compile in an schroot on the phone16:04
tvosss/on/for16:04
tvossThierry, so you can compile on your machine16:04
tvossThierry, for getting you started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild16:05
Thierryty16:05
ThierryInstead of $distribution = "trusty"; that i have to type ?16:17
Thierrywily ?16:17
tvossThierry, vivid16:25
ThierryOk, i have a problem with the gpg16:26
ThierryIt still says me that i haven't enough entropy16:27
tvossThierry, move your mouse, alt tab, browse the web16:27
ThierrySo in run ls -R / ||  tree / || grep dir but it still say me that16:27
Thierryi run*16:27
Thierrydoes gpg will automatically generate the key when it will have enough entropy ?16:28
tvossyup16:30
ThierrySo if i understand weel schroot permit a "cross compilation" of ubuntu version ?16:33
Thierrywell16:33
popeyyes, you can build an armhf binary inside a schroot on an x86 machine16:34
Thierryok16:34
ThierryI have to restart my session16:34
Thierry__re16:37
Thierry__So i did the sbuild, and now lol16:38
Thierry__I have to download the tarball ?16:38
Thierryre sorry i had to empty my ram lol17:09
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Thierryhow can i send a private message for someone in irc ?17:24
k1lThierry: "/msg user message"17:26
ThierryThank you :)17:26
ThierryMerde ><17:27
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jibelThierry, not nice on a public channel17:50
Thierry???17:50
ThierryIs there anyone who speak french here xD ?17:52
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sergiusensahayzen, I see a similar bug while listening to podcasts since a couple of images ago (a ding from telegram interrupts the podcast and it doesn't continue playing)18:50
sergiusensahayzen, another similar thing I saw only in todays image is that a podcast loops forever18:50
robin-heroartmello, hey, any progress with the .pot file with this bug? #152118619:00
robin-hero https://launchpad.net/bugs/152118619:00
ubot5Launchpad bug 1521186 in Canonical System Image ""Media Player" should be translatable on Sound Indicator" [High,Fix committed]19:00
artmellorobin-hero: sorry was working on some gallery issues, working on that now19:09
robin-herothanks :)19:16
ahayzensergiusens, that's probably because they don't have repeat set to off19:44
ahayzensergiusens, or if you have shuffle on, then it'll loop for now. Until we get a Random and RandomAndLoop as separate options in QML19:45
sergiusensahayzen, I wouldn't know for sure, but I bet Elleo would know19:47
ThierryDoes the media-player handle multiple audio stream ?19:47
ahayzensergiusens, yeah :-)19:47
ThierryFor example if i have a mkv with french and english audio can i choose ? Or i have to go fuck myself ?19:47
taiebotHey I am still getting some weird artifact on rc-proposed  on some scopes http://i.imgur.com/1W8S0Xb.png is their a bug for that. It is quite hard to reproduce but it happens.20:42
pmcgowantaiebot, weird, it looks like a blown up >20:43
pmcgowannot see a bug for that20:44
robin-herotaiebot, never seen this on my device20:44
taiebotYeah its the arrow which looks completely out of scale20:44
pmcgowanplease log it especially if you know how to repro it20:45
taiebotpmcgowan that is the problem i do not know how to reproduce but it happens mainly on today scope20:46
popeyi have seen that in the past too taiebot21:01
popeyi couldn't reproduce it21:01
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gihelThierry: toujours là ?21:29
ThierryOui21:29
gihelje backlog, j'ai même pas lu tes questions21:30
dobeyenglish please21:31
dobeyif you want french, please go to #ubuntu-fr (i think that's the channel)21:31
ThierryWe will go in private, sorry dobey21:31
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Guest14016Does Touch support Ubuntu/Linux based applications?21:49
ThierryGuest14016 sadly no21:50
ThierryxD21:51
tvossThierry, that's not entirely true22:19
ThierryYes22:19
ThierrySome app like firefox work22:19
ThierryI rethink to it only now...22:20
ThierryI have a problem when i try to run mk-sbuild --arch armhf vivid22:47
ThierryI: Running command: chroot /var/lib/schroot/chroots/vivid-armhf /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage chroot: failed to run command ‘/debootstrap/debootstrap’: Exec format error22:47
ThierryDid someone already have this problem and solve it ?22:47
ThierryBye everyone23:57

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