[07:59] <conkey3> uh Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) reaches End of Life on February 4 2016 o_O
[08:00] <conkey3> so.. when will the phone move to 16.04?
[08:00] <conkey3> and a newer android stack
[08:06] <Mikaela> With 16.04 I would assume it waits at least for it to have stable release
[08:10] <conkey3> Mikaela, right
[08:24] <conkey3> steamlink sdk https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steamlink-sdk
[09:18] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Thursday, and happy Organise Your Home Day! 😃
[09:31] <RMJ> anyone ruunning rc-proposed? How's it looking?
[10:02] <morphis> ogra_: ping
[10:10] <V99> we
[10:16] <ogra_> morphis, yo
[10:16] <morphis> ogra_: you remember why we're not doing dual landing for ubuntu-touch-session?
[10:16] <robin-hero> RMJ, it looks okay most of the times, but today my phone ran out of battery at night (from 43%) and didn't alarm for wake up... :(
[10:17] <ogra_> morphis, no, i dont, feel free to change it
[10:17] <morphis> ogra_: hm, ok
[11:19] <Nycticebuscoucan> Hi guys, i am looking for a xmpp client app for ubuntu touch on my bq aquaris 4.5 are there perhaps easy ways to port xabber (android) to ubuntu?
[12:28] <mardy> tvoss: hi! I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/location-service/providers-dir/+merge/280724, when you have some time
[12:37] <morphis> ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~morphis/ubuntu-touch-session/sync-vivid-and-droid-discover/+merge/282579
[12:43] <tvoss> mardy, ack and thx :) on the list
[12:43] <tvoss> mardy, also: a happy new year
[12:44] <mardy> tvoss: thanks, same to you! :-)
[12:45] <tvoss> mardy, thank you :9
[12:57] <popey> ahayzen, jibel tells me that from your list at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14415863/ that bug 1531296 is fixed in rc-proposed, so that's good, one down.
[12:58] <ahayzen> popey, top two should have landed :-)
[12:58] <ahayzen> and i need to report a few more minor ones
[12:59] <jibel> popey, the status of bug 1518157 is not clear from the changeloog in comment 2
[13:00] <jibel> ahayzen, the changelog entries says "Until bug 1518157 (RandomAndLoop playbackMode) is fixed..." so it is fixed or or not?
[13:00] <ahayzen> jibel, it is a workaround that makes the music-app function as before...until there is support for the additional functionality later
[13:01] <ahayzen> jibel, as at the moment there is no way todo Random with repeat off....and Random with repeat on... as two separate things.... so we made it match what the current app does, which is random with repeat on
[13:01] <ahayzen> so no regressions :-)
[13:02] <jibel> ahayzen, okay, so this bug can be set to 'fixed'?
[13:02] <ahayzen> which one?
[13:02] <jibel> 1518157
[13:02] <ahayzen> i think that still stands
[13:02] <jibel> it's marked released for qtubuntu-media
[13:03] <ahayzen> as you cannot do Playlist.Random + Playlist.Repeat
[13:05] <ahayzen> jibel, seems the think that generated the changelog automatically put that bug as fixed, when it was just referencing it, i think
[13:05] <ahayzen> *the thing
[13:06] <jibel> ahayzen, right. I'll reset the status
[13:16] <Nycticebuscoucan> Hi guys, i am looking for a xmpp client app for ubuntu touch on my bq aquaris 4.5 are there perhaps easy ways to port xabber (android) to ubuntu?
[13:40] <popey> pmcgowan, heya, any chance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-network/+bug/1472186 can go on your radar pls?
[13:41] <popey> It's slowing down development of dekko, by preventing builds from being done in a chroot, but have to be done on-device.
[13:42] <Thierry> Hi everybody
[13:42] <Thierry> I just installed Ubuntu touch on my device
[13:42] <Thierry> And i want to know how can i see videos with subtitle
[13:43] <Thierry> In fact i like watch films in vost but it seems that the default player don't print the subtitle
[13:47] <pmcgowan> popey, will take a look
[13:47] <pmcgowan> popey, while I have you where do we stand with new music app
[13:48] <popey> I am listening to music with it right now
[13:48] <popey> we have a click that we're testing, a few known issues
[13:48] <popey> Thierry, we don't support subtitles yet. sorry.
[13:49] <Thierry> And there is no other video player that i can install which supports that feature ?
[13:49] <pmcgowan> popey, can it land like todayish
[13:50] <popey> depends if we find any more issues with media-hub
[13:50] <popey> we can certainly submit it to QA
[13:50] <popey> ahayzen, ^
[13:56] <ahayzen> popey, that issue you just found should be fixed ideally :-/
[13:57] <ahayzen> popey, people wouldn't like you music stopping and queue being emptied each time a SMS/telegram notification sounds :-/
[13:57] <ahayzen> popey, did you report a bug for it? or do you want me to report one?
[14:01] <popey> not yet, could you, you got a photo/screenshot?
[14:01] <ahayzen> popey, i could maybe film it, but it is pretty easy to explain...i'll write one up then we can add a video later
[14:01] <popey> ok
[14:01] <popey> thanks
[14:03] <Thierry> nobody knows ?
[14:04] <popey> Thierry, nobody knows what?
[14:04] <popey> oh, no.
[14:05] <Thierry> Hum that's not cool...
[14:06] <Thierry> And there is no way i can run vlc or install another media player with apt-get for example ?
[14:08] <ahayzen> popey, can you confirm bug 1534172 ?
[14:11] <popey> ya
[14:11] <popey> done
[14:11] <popey> Thierry, someone would need to port vlc
[14:11] <ahayzen> thanks popey :-)
[14:20] <pmcgowan> popey, why is that bug filed against indicator-network
[14:20] <popey> not sure, I didn't file it.
[14:21] <pmcgowan> Saviq, ^^
[14:21] <pmcgowan> bug #1472186
[14:21] <Saviq> pmcgowan, that's where libconnectivity-qt1 comes from
[14:21] <pmcgowan> oh
[14:21] <Saviq> pmcgowan, was a separate package before, got merged into indicator-network and we're in that situation since
[14:22] <pmcgowan> right now I recall
[14:22] <Saviq> the problem is roughly that it pulls in indicator-network itself
[14:22] <raph_ael> hi, I have a nexus with touch 15.04, will 15.10 be available through updates, or is there something else to do ? thanks
[14:22] <Saviq> which means it pulls in half of the world
[14:23] <popey> raph_ael, we're not going to 15.10
[14:23] <raph_ael> popey: oh, what does that mean ?
[14:23] <popey> raph_ael, you'll keep getting 15.04 + updates, until we move to 16.04 (I think), when you'll get that OTA
[14:23] <raph_ael> popey: ok thanks
[14:23] <popey> np
[14:24] <raph_ael> popey: is there a technical reason or something about stable/dev releases ?
[14:25] <popey> i think just because it slows us (phone team) down to keep moving to new release every 6 months
[14:25] <popey> and the standard ubuntu release cycle doesn't line up well with hardware releases
[14:25] <pmcgowan> well 15.10 introduced the abi break with gcc
[14:25] <popey> oh yeah.
[14:25] <popey> that too
[14:25] <pmcgowan> so yeah technical issue as well
[14:25] <raph_ael> thanks both :)
[14:26] <raph_ael> 6 months is indeed quick specially for mobile os
[14:26] <raph_ael> but well it works better for me than Firefox Os that I used just before
[14:26] <Thierry> Someone knows which is the default root password for ubuntu touch ???
[14:27] <popey> We use sudo, and the password will be whatever you set it to
[14:27] <jibel> Thierry, there is no root password. However you can sudo with the passcode you set on first boot.
[14:27] <popey> The phone pin/passphrase.
[14:27] <Thierry> Thank you popey
[14:45] <Thierry> Is it hard to print the subtitle of a .mkv file ?
[14:47] <popey> jhodapp, has subtitle support been factored into mediaplayer? Or never considered?
[14:48] <Thierry> Because i'm programmer
[14:48] <Thierry> So if it is not so difficult i can help until sunday lol
[14:48] <popey> https://launchpad.net/mediaplayer-app is the code :)
[14:49] <jhodapp> popey, it's been considered but has not been a high priority feature yet
[14:49] <popey> ok
[14:49] <Thierry> Is the code well commented or ... ?
[14:49] <jhodapp> popey, but it'd be a perfect feature for a community member to work to add
[14:49] <popey> agreed
[14:50] <Thierry> Hey wait, i don't say i will add this feature
[14:50] <Thierry> I know very slightly QML lol
[14:50] <Thierry> And i first have to understand the code lol
[14:50] <popey> yeah, he was just saying it would be a good thing to contribute
[14:51] <Thierry> So if i understand weel the mainly code is in the mediaplayer.cpp
[14:53] <Thierry> well*
[14:57] <Nycticebuscoucan> Hi guys, i am looking for a xmpp client app for ubuntu touch on my bq aquaris 4.5 are there perhaps easy ways to port xabber (android) to ubuntu?
[14:59] <popey> Nycticebuscoucan, dont think one exists yet, there's mention I have seen in the past that xmpp support might be added to messaging-app but not done yet as far as I know
[14:59] <ssweeny> Nycticebuscoucan, no XMPP client as of yet nor will android apps be easy to port. There is however a messging framework on the way (ETA unknown I'm afraid) that will make it easy to write one
[15:01] <Nycticebuscoucan> thank you popey and ssweeny I hope it will be implemented soon. Do you know if "normal" ubuntu "apps" like pidgin could work ob the phone and if yes how would i do it?
[15:02] <Thierry> No because of mir ><
[15:02] <dobey> no, but not because of mir
[15:03] <Nycticebuscoucan> :) absolutely no chance?
[15:03] <dobey> gtk+ has a mir back-end already for some time. the problem with messaging apps is dealing with lifecycle/confinement issues
[15:03] <dobey> you can run pidgin on your phone if you want to break your phone, but you get to keep all the pieces. it's not a supported thing to do that :)
[15:04] <dobey> the messaging framework already being used on the phone is telepathy
[15:04] <dobey> we just don't have UI for dealing with IM services at the moment, and all the IM service back-ends are not enabled on the phone
[15:07] <Nycticebuscoucan> ok this sounds a little bit too complicated for me :) anyway I would be happy to have xmpp on the phone if possible also with OTR :)
[15:08] <Nycticebuscoucan> tanks you for your help anyway
[15:09] <dobey> yes, it would be nice to have all the IM services on the phone
[15:11] <dobey> popey: what is dekko trying to use unsupported API for?
[15:11] <ssweeny> the xmpp plugin for telepathy is shipped on the phone IIRC but there's no UI to use it
[15:11] <ssweeny> also telepathy's xmpp support is lacking when it comes to mobile
[15:11] <popey> dobey, hmm?
[15:12] <dobey> popey: afaik we don't support most of the C++ APIs we have qml modules for, in the SDK.
[15:13] <Nycticebuscoucan> yes, i just read that - that s really bad. So no chance for xmmp with otr in the near future?
[15:13] <dobey> popey: so i'm curious as to what dekko is trying to do that it's trying to link to the C++ API
[15:13] <dobey> ssweeny: the module is there, but blacklisted afaik
[15:14] <ssweeny> I think it'll activate if you make an account from the command line
[15:14] <dobey> Nycticebuscoucan: i don't know what "near future" means exactly, or where any of the work on adding support for IM stands
[15:14] <ssweeny> but messaging-app doesn't work with it
[15:30] <neoscreenager> hi guys, I am trying to run ubuntu-emulator on ubuntu 15.10 64bit, but its not booting up.
[15:34] <neoscreenager> its not booting further after these lines :  Failed to start user service: Unknown unit: user@32011.service
[15:34] <neoscreenager> /lib/init/init-d-script: 12: /etc/rc2.d/S02whoopsie: -c: not found
[15:34] <neoscreenager> basename: missing operand
[15:35] <neoscreenager> please suggest how to proceed
[15:36] <Thierry> Just a question : apparently there is a library (libmatroska) which parse subtitle file of .mkv
[15:37] <Thierry> So in the hypothesis what i will try to develop a subtitle feature for the player can i use this library ?
[15:38] <pmcgowan> neoscreenager, the emulator is a bit busted atm, in my experience it starts around 1/3 of the time, but there are also issues with input events we are fixing
[15:44] <pmcgowan> Thierry, however gstreamer supports it, seems it has a good plugin for matroska
[15:45] <Thierry> The problem is that i don't where to begin
[15:45] <Thierry> What tools can i use, where i have to put the code
[15:45] <Thierry> My idea is clear : i parse that fucking mkv file, find the subtitle and print it
[15:46] <Thierry> But how am i supposed to do it is the problem
[15:47] <tvoss> Thierry, you want to get started looking at lp:media-hub, it is the central service doing the decoding
[15:48] <tvoss> Thierry, there are two ways to achieve what you want: (1.) render the subtitles onto the image on the service side or (2.) adjust the media hub api's to provide a synchronized subtitle stream
[15:48] <Thierry> Alright i will try to found this
[15:49] <Thierry> Because i don't know launchpad
[15:49] <Thierry> I know to code but not how to use communatary tools (except git) lol
[15:49] <tvoss> Thierry, launchpad.net/media-hub
[15:50] <Thierry> But thank you for directing me :)
[15:50] <tvoss> Thierry, sure, but just so you know: both (1.) and (2.) are far from trivial :)
[15:50] <tvoss> Thierry, and obviously: all help and contributions welcome
[15:51] <neoscreenager> pmcgowan, then should I try with LTS, I have my other comuputer running on LTS
[15:52] <pmcgowan> neoscreenager, no it won't work currently, its not the desktop version it is the emulator image that is busted, we hope to fix it very soon
[15:53] <Thierry> tvoss : So if i understand well i have to make a directory subtitle in /src lol?
[15:53] <Thierry> a directory full of code of course
[15:54] <tvoss> Thierry, well, I would propose to add it to gstreamer first. We can work together on exposing the actual via public interfaces after that
[15:55] <tvoss> Thierry, http://docs.gstreamer.com/display/GstSDK/Playback+tutorial+2%3A+Subtitle+management seems to be a good place to get started
[15:55] <tvoss> Thierry, we are using a playbin in media-hub
[15:55] <Thierry> So the work is : in gstreamer/engine.cpp when gstreamer print the image it prints also subtitle ?
[15:55] <Thierry> Alright thank you for the documentation
[15:57] <Thierry> But if i modify the code how will i be able to test it ?
[15:57] <Thierry> If i download the source of media hub and compile on my computer (ubuntu 15.10 desktop) it will run ?
[15:57] <tvoss> Thierry, engine.cpp does not render the image, the image (or a reference to a buffer on the gpu) is streamed to the client (the mediaplayer app)
[15:58] <tvoss> Thierry, it will only work on the phone right now
[15:58] <Thierry> oh crap
[16:00] <Thierry> Just say me how i will have to work : (1) download the code (2) modify the code on my pc (3) put the code on the phone (4) compile on the phone ?
[16:04] <tvoss> Thierry, yup, we usually compile in an schroot on the phone
[16:04] <tvoss> s/on/for
[16:04] <tvoss> Thierry, so you can compile on your machine
[16:05] <tvoss> Thierry, for getting you started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[16:05] <Thierry> ty
[16:17] <Thierry> Instead of $distribution = "trusty"; that i have to type ?
[16:17] <Thierry> wily ?
[16:25] <tvoss> Thierry, vivid
[16:26] <Thierry> Ok, i have a problem with the gpg
[16:27] <Thierry> It still says me that i haven't enough entropy
[16:27] <tvoss> Thierry, move your mouse, alt tab, browse the web
[16:27] <Thierry> So in run ls -R / ||  tree / || grep dir but it still say me that
[16:27] <Thierry> i run*
[16:28] <Thierry> does gpg will automatically generate the key when it will have enough entropy ?
[16:30] <tvoss> yup
[16:33] <Thierry> So if i understand weel schroot permit a "cross compilation" of ubuntu version ?
[16:33] <Thierry> well
[16:34] <popey> yes, you can build an armhf binary inside a schroot on an x86 machine
[16:34] <Thierry> ok
[16:34] <Thierry> I have to restart my session
[16:37] <Thierry__> re
[16:38] <Thierry__> So i did the sbuild, and now lol
[16:38] <Thierry__> I have to download the tarball ?
[17:09] <Thierry> re sorry i had to empty my ram lol
[17:24] <Thierry> how can i send a private message for someone in irc ?
[17:26] <k1l> Thierry: "/msg user message"
[17:26] <Thierry> Thank you :)
[17:27] <Thierry> Merde ><
[17:50] <jibel> Thierry, not nice on a public channel
[17:50] <Thierry> ???
[17:52] <Thierry> Is there anyone who speak french here xD ?
[18:50] <sergiusens> ahayzen, I see a similar bug while listening to podcasts since a couple of images ago (a ding from telegram interrupts the podcast and it doesn't continue playing)
[18:50] <sergiusens> ahayzen, another similar thing I saw only in todays image is that a podcast loops forever
[19:00] <robin-hero> artmello, hey, any progress with the .pot file with this bug? #1521186
[19:00] <robin-hero>  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521186
[19:09] <artmello> robin-hero: sorry was working on some gallery issues, working on that now
[19:16] <robin-hero> thanks :)
[19:44] <ahayzen> sergiusens, that's probably because they don't have repeat set to off
[19:45] <ahayzen> sergiusens, or if you have shuffle on, then it'll loop for now. Until we get a Random and RandomAndLoop as separate options in QML
[19:47] <sergiusens> ahayzen, I wouldn't know for sure, but I bet Elleo would know
[19:47] <Thierry> Does the media-player handle multiple audio stream ?
[19:47] <ahayzen> sergiusens, yeah :-)
[19:47] <Thierry> For example if i have a mkv with french and english audio can i choose ? Or i have to go fuck myself ?
[20:42] <taiebot> Hey I am still getting some weird artifact on rc-proposed  on some scopes http://i.imgur.com/1W8S0Xb.png is their a bug for that. It is quite hard to reproduce but it happens.
[20:43] <pmcgowan> taiebot, weird, it looks like a blown up >
[20:44] <pmcgowan> not see a bug for that
[20:44] <robin-hero> taiebot, never seen this on my device
[20:44] <taiebot> Yeah its the arrow which looks completely out of scale
[20:45] <pmcgowan> please log it especially if you know how to repro it
[20:46] <taiebot> pmcgowan that is the problem i do not know how to reproduce but it happens mainly on today scope
[21:01] <popey> i have seen that in the past too taiebot
[21:01] <popey> i couldn't reproduce it
[21:29] <gihel> Thierry: toujours là ?
[21:29] <Thierry> Oui
[21:30] <gihel> je backlog, j'ai même pas lu tes questions
[21:31] <dobey> english please
[21:31] <dobey> if you want french, please go to #ubuntu-fr (i think that's the channel)
[21:31] <Thierry> We will go in private, sorry dobey
[21:49] <Guest14016> Does Touch support Ubuntu/Linux based applications?
[21:50] <Thierry> Guest14016 sadly no
[21:51] <Thierry> xD
[22:19] <tvoss> Thierry, that's not entirely true
[22:19] <Thierry> Yes
[22:19] <Thierry> Some app like firefox work
[22:20] <Thierry> I rethink to it only now...
[22:47] <Thierry> I have a problem when i try to run mk-sbuild --arch armhf vivid
[22:47] <Thierry> I: Running command: chroot /var/lib/schroot/chroots/vivid-armhf /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage chroot: failed to run command ‘/debootstrap/debootstrap’: Exec format error
[22:47] <Thierry> Did someone already have this problem and solve it ?
[23:57] <Thierry> Bye everyone