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smellsLikeGoatSphello everyone, is it safe to run a usb stick with a rufus-prepared XP ? I have ubuntu as my OS00:00
meeeenTJ-: so the only think i can do is to wait?00:00
TJ-meeeen: generally, yes. Or use native Windows.00:00
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: XP isn't safe to use anywhere for anyone00:00
Nic335_@daftykins No not efi, And I know.. But Im serious about it..00:00
meeeenTJ-: what do you mean by native Windows?00:01
daftykinsNic335_: so do you get GRUB at all or does it go straight to 10? did you disable hybrid shutdown?00:01
TJ-meeeen: I mean booting the PC into Windows and running the program from there.00:01
salvatruchohola00:02
Nic335_@daftkins It was going straigh to windows 10 loader at first but now,. Im getting Can't find any os after post.. lol00:02
ozbrkhey guys00:02
daftykinsNic335_: wow. run grub-install from a live session00:02
ozbrkwhat is ubuntu communit channel00:03
ozbrkpublic channel somewhere I can talk ummm00:03
ozbrkoff-topic00:03
k1l_!ot | ozbrk00:03
ubottuozbrk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:03
meeeenTJ-: oh ok. but i also tried to run it from PlayOnLinux but it didint work00:03
eikon81gOk so, I have a standard flash drive that I am using in 15.10 and I simply formatted the drive as a FAT drive and it is owned by root and I can't figure out why00:03
ozbrkthanks00:03
eikon81gI did some research and it looks like others have this problem too..00:04
daftykinsFAT can't have permissions00:04
FastZNic335_, see if you can fix the mbr / grub config by booting a live cd.00:04
meeeenTJ-: is there a way to go back to version 12.10 from 14.04?00:04
eikon81gdaftykins, that's what I am reading but when I go to the properties it show it as owned by root00:04
protnteward: oki in cloud I had to create and attach boot disk thats why00:05
protn:D00:05
Nic335_The only thing though is that at first when i first installed w8 I had sda /root /swap and windows8 And on sdb I had a fat32 storage for both os's /boot and /home on there..00:05
protnnew provider so00:05
Nic335_So by runing straith grub-install will it just reconize my config ?00:05
protnor maybe there is some other issue00:05
daftykinseikon81g: what properties? pastebin "mount"00:06
TJ-meeeen: no, and 12.10 is long out of support00:06
protnteward: if key ends in  alex@alex-ThinkPad-T61 do I use alex as user name?00:06
protnor whole string?00:06
meeeenTJ-: well, thank you for the help :)00:07
eikon81gdaftykins, when I right click it it says that "you are not the owner"00:07
eikon81gin terminal pastebin | mount < right?00:07
smellsLikeGoatSp<daftykins> that is why I have a bootable pen drive. I need XP for various Lab softwares. my virtual machine running XP cannot work at full bandwidth over the USB connection for some reason. I need a "real" XP machine. I stumbled upon rufus and if it is self-contained and I dont risk to damage the BIOS or my Ubuntu then I would give it a try00:07
daftykinseikon81g: no "mount | pastebinit" if installed00:08
eikon81gwhoops ty 1 sec00:08
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: i doubt that allows anything other than XP installation.00:08
eikon81g(installing)00:08
eikon81gdaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14491990/00:09
eikon81gbtw I am running off of ubuntu INSTALLED (not live) on usb00:09
daftykinseikon81g: sdc? yeah root mounted that drive. unplug it00:10
eikon81gok00:10
eikon81gyes sdc00:10
eikon81gI formatted by just right clicking format and then selected FAT00:10
Nic335_Do any one know if boot-repair has any bug atm ?00:11
smellsLikeGoatSpdaftykins: any software that would allow me to have a portable xp in a similar fashion like tails00:12
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: tails?00:12
daftykinsthe only tails i know was Sonic's pal00:12
eikon81glol00:13
smellsLikeGoatSpdaftykins: https://tails.boum.org/?00:13
eikon81gdafty can I mount it as my user?00:13
daftykinseikon81g: don't see why not. plug it back in and share a "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"00:13
eikon81gsmellsLikeGoatSp, there used to be a univeralbootcd that would let you launch a xp from a disc.. have you considered a VM?00:13
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: anything you try to use like that would be immediately ruined by using XP in 2016.00:14
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: and this isn't a Windows support channel, so that's me out.00:14
eikon81gdaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14492033/00:14
daftykinseikon81g: help me out here, i spy 1007MB (weird size) NTFS /dev/sdc00:15
Nic335_Boot-repair is freezed at purge kernels then reinstall last kernal sda7 (ins) this may require serveral minutes00:16
eikon81gyea you are right I am seeing that too.. this is a 1.0gb flash drive (I am updating software on an in dash in the car so I am using this random flash drive) but I selected FAT and it's showing Ntfs there..00:16
Nic335_Any one know if this is a bug ?00:16
smellsLikeGoatSpeikon81g: I have virtualbox on my Ubuntu machine. but the usb bandwidth is pretty limited for some reason I cannot get more that 5Mb/s (MB/s?)00:16
smellsLikeGoatSpdaftykins, having Ubuntu on my laptop it is of my concern not to harm it in any possible way00:16
daftykinsnot on topic to me00:16
eikon81gsmellsLikeGoatSp, | !rules00:17
TJ-eikon81g: daftykins "ntfs" is only the partition table type indicator; it has no bearing on what is actually *in* the partition00:17
smellsLikeGoatSp!rules00:17
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines00:17
daftykinsTJ-: that disappoints me about parted :(00:17
ozbrkguys are there anyone who using brackets by adobe ?00:18
eikon81gdaftykins, is letting you know the windows related questions are off topic and he is unable to assist in that issue. As close as this channel could get is dual boot help00:18
daftykinseikon81g: check it isn't mounted again, from "mount" ; then use "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1" or gparted perhaps00:18
TJ-eikon81g: daftykins as to 'loop', it is probably because the first partition claims to start at sector 0 (where the partition table lives)00:18
TJ-eikon81g: daftykins I'd recommend listing by sector numbers using "sudo parted /dev/sdc unit s print" to get the exact numbers00:18
daftykinseikon81g: ^ up to you then00:19
eikon81gok let me try that.. I hate to say it but this is getting confusing, lol I am trying to keep up. Ty guys for the assist by the way00:19
mentalisto27hallo test00:19
smellsLikeGoatSpeikon81g, I am sorry if this went a little off-topic. can I then ask how I would enable virtual box on Ubuntu to take full advantage of my usb ports?00:19
eikon81gsudo parted /dev/sdc unit s print00:20
eikon81goops.00:20
eikon81gNumber  Start  End       Size      File system  Flags00:20
eikon81g 1      0s     1966079s  1966080s  ntfs00:20
TJ-eikon81g: so that confirms my hypothesis00:20
eikon81g!virtualbox00:21
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:21
TJ-eikon81g: sector 0 is where the partition table lives; no partition should include it00:21
eikon81gI may just break down and format this thing on another machine.. I guess I just wonder why 15.10 can't format the drive correctly..00:22
smellsLikeGoatSp!virtualbox00:22
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox00:22
TJ-eikon81g: If I recall correctly there were some embedded devices used that 'trick' to cause Windows to not 'see' anything on the device00:22
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: virtualbox has nothing to do with using the USB drive - your ports aren't at fault, your flash drive is probably cheap and rubbish00:22
eikon81gsmellsLikeGoatSp, check that link I think there is usb emulation issues with virtualbox00:22
eikon81gthat could be it too I'd go with daftykins I vaguely remember there being some issues with VM and USB devices you may have to run that down in another channel tho00:23
smellsLikeGoatSpdaftykin: I am connecting a Thorlabs camera to my usb port... ... ...00:23
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: that means less than nothing to me00:23
TJ-smellsLikeGoatSp: you're using VB's USB host pass-through to the guest?00:24
eikon81gdaftykins, lol.. I am going to use another machine to format this thing.. I was reading up on this issue I think it may make it's way to a bug tracker because there are quite a few people asking similar questions00:25
smellsLikeGoatSpeikon81g, I will check it out. Also, Thorlabs provides a driver for the camera for Linux machines which I tried but it conflicts with the usb-driver I have.00:25
daftykinseikon81g: just use gparted, get it done00:25
smellsLikeGoatSpdaftykins, it mean it has nothing to do with cheap and rubbish flash drive00:25
eikon81gdaftykins, on it.00:25
eikon81gty guys :p00:26
daftykinssmellsLikeGoatSp: ah, your talk of slow USB was confusing earlier then.00:26
OerHekssmellsLikeGoatSp, according to their site, the driver is for 2.6.xx LINUX kernel (min. 2.6.9, max. 2.6.24); http://www.thorlabs.de/software_pages/ViewSoftwarePage.cfm?Code=DCx00:27
smellsLikeGoatSpTJ- :  all I did was setting up the usb port in the virtual machine through the properties..not sure if that is what you mean?00:28
_mirko_Hi guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu setup.00:29
_mirko_Games wont launch00:29
_mirko_they just flash00:29
_mirko_terarria infinifactory00:29
rom1504try uninstalling flash00:29
TJ-smellsLikeGoatSp: I'd guess so, although I don't use VB myself, but 'passthrough' is a keyword you may want to use to search for potential bugs00:30
eikon81g!flash00:30
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash00:30
eikon81g!flash | _mirko_00:30
ubottu_mirko_: please see above00:30
smellsLikeGoatSpDerHeks: ups I missed on that! thanks :)00:30
rww... I don't think he meant Flash the browser plugin, guys00:30
rwwhe meant that the screen just flashes00:30
eikon81gOHH00:30
eikon81glol00:30
artoisrww: yeah but !'s are fun, don't you know00:31
_mirko_no the window00:31
OerHeksmirko, you might need xna40 >> http://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/i-finally-found-a-way-to-run-terraria-on-ubuntu-playonlinux.5477/00:31
eikon81gvideo drivers up to date _mirko_ ?00:31
_mirko_fullscreen windows00:31
eikon81ggo with OerHeks00:31
rwwartois: apparently :s00:31
smellsLikeGoatSpTJ- : thank you! I am on it00:31
OerHeksmirko anyway, it is a wine issue00:31
_mirko_I don't think it's wine issue because these are native games I think.00:32
_mirko_infinifactory is, not sure for terraria00:32
artois_mirko_: run them from a terminal and observe the error output00:33
neredsenvyI have a single VPS where I want to deploy multiple applications (ruby/rails, python/django, php/laravel) etc.. I want/can have them all managed by same HTTP (apache) and I want them to be able to share same DB's MySQL, PSQL.. However each of these applications requires different lang SDK versions, diff tools, plugins etc. I would like to keep these packaged outside main OS00:33
rwwterraria has a Linux version, yes00:33
neredsenvyIs there a way to do this ?00:33
_mirko_I need to recconect I'll be here in a minute. I'm in CLI I can't see more than last message. Sorry I didn't catch all of your advices.00:35
_mirko_quit00:35
daftykinsneredsenvy: is this for testing or actual production...00:35
neredsenvydaftykins: Actuall production for personal projects. Still a student, can afford only 1 VPS atm : )00:36
daftykinsneredsenvy: does it really need to be online...00:36
neredsenvydaftykins: I know best scenario would be AWS running separate instance per application each configured for said application with detached services00:36
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neredsenvydaftykins: It's a DigitalOcean VPS00:37
daftykinsthat's not what i asked00:37
neredsenvydaftykins: Yes it has to be online00:37
daftykinswhy?00:37
neredsenvyHosts applications I need on the go for work & play00:38
neredsenvyWebsites, task managers,..00:38
neredsenvyapi services00:38
smellsLikeGoatSpeikon81g, did you use something like http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/keep-portable-ubuntu-installation-wherever-go/ ? this seems to allow Windows, or am I completely off?00:38
TJ-neredsenvy: if you want to keep them isolated I'd recommend LXC (containers) for each service, and use an apache2 reverse-proxy on the host to connect to each service on dedicated localhost ports only00:38
daftykinsneredsenvy: you're going to need a lot of RAM.00:38
eikon81gsmellsLikeGoatSp, that would be a Ubuntu persistent usb drive00:39
OerHekssmellsLikeGoatSp, not suitable for windows XP, ask in ##windows to be sure.00:39
eikon81gthat would be assuming that you have windows on your machine currently, you could then use a bootable version of ubuntu from a flash drive00:39
neredsenvydaftykins: They are pretty small applications not anything heavy duty00:39
smellsLikeGoatSpeikon81g: I though it would work the same as when you set a double boot and you install windows first..00:40
smellsLikeGoatSpDerHeks: will do.00:40
daftykinsneredsenvy: you haven't admin'd a host with MySQL, PHP and apache before have you? :>00:40
smellsLikeGoatSpthanks everyone00:40
daftykinsneredsenvy: i just hope you're not trying to use the $5/mo lowest tier at DO...00:40
neredsenvyTJ-: This seems pretty heavyweight is there no simpler solution00:41
neredsenvydaftykins: 10$ I mean I have not yet reached the maximum00:41
neredsenvyAt heaviest usage I stay < 70% resource usage00:41
neredsenvydaftykins: So far the way I setup my VPS was pretty much according to DO guide00:42
neredsenvyeverything installed to system00:42
TJ-neredsenvy: LXC is very lightweight00:44
daftykinsneredsenvy: eh? so you already set it up?00:44
neredsenvydaftykins: I have a LAMP stack setup pretty much it00:45
neredsenvyTJ-: How much more RAM&CPU drain can I expect on top of my apps00:45
TJ-neredsenvy: it wouldn't be much more than what would be used if you have it all running uncontained. The point of LXC containers is you 'map' dirs/files from the host into the container so they can run isolated, but their exectuable code is in shared libraries and shared kernel pages even when multiple containers exectute the same code.00:48
zippo^is opera for 64 bits only?00:48
artoisit's for people who like closed source software only00:49
zippo^?00:49
neredsenvyTJ-: Aaa ok I was looking at wiki. Saw virtualization software & references to wmware, vlware, virtual box etc..00:49
neredsenvyI know full on virtualization would be an option but that would have been nastyyy00:50
daftykinsnasty for who?00:50
smellsLikeGoatSpcan I import a camera feed which is not labelled as /video to vlc by specifying where it should import from? Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d: or the lke00:50
neredsenvymy RAM/CPU00:50
TJ-neredsenvy: yes, it's an easy confusion. Even LXC examples - to keep it simply - create minimal chroots but that isn't necessary since the basis of LXC is mapping file-system nodes into a separate control cgroup, and namespace00:51
TJ-smellsLikeGoatSp: no.00:51
artoiszippo^: kinda looks that way, yes00:51
zippo^oh ok00:51
zippo^i use 32 bits00:52
smellsLikeGoatSpTJ- : it was worth a shot00:52
artoiszippo^: you can use the unstable version in 32-bit00:52
zippo^so, does opera stop to support for 32 bits, artois ?00:52
artoisdon't ask me why00:52
artoiszippo^: yes, at least for "stable" builds00:52
zippo^where/00:52
artoiszippo^: you should really find another browser (_and_ get a 64-bit proc :p)00:52
zippo^why did you say: :p ?00:53
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k1l_zippo^: 32bit is old and dies. dont run 32bit if your hardware can go 64bit00:53
OerHekszippo^, old post, they tried to make a 32 bit version http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2015/04/opera-developer-30-now-available-32-bit-linux/00:53
OerHeksbut it is old, very old00:53
zippo^my ram is 2 GB00:53
zippo^can this running to 64-bits?00:53
k1l_zippo^: that doesnt have to do with ram00:54
artoiszippo^: http://get.geo.opera.com.global.prod.fastly.net/pub/opera-beta/35.0.2066.10/linux/opera-beta_35.0.2066.10_i386.deb00:54
k1l_zippo^: if the cpu and mainboard can, yes00:54
zippo^ok thx for the explaining00:54
artoiszippo^: grep ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo00:54
zippo^ HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.2.0-23-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntuo "wily0uo" 15.10uo ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU        P6200  @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 1,8GiB, 47,3% free ** Disk: Total: 227,3GiB, 57,9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 2h 34m 11s **00:54
sniper213salut tout le monde00:55
artoiszippo^: that's a 64-bit proc00:55
artoiszippo^: if you aren't running Ubuntu for 64-bit, you might consider doing so00:55
artoisit'll basically take a reinstall, however :)00:55
zippo^so, can I install 64-bits?00:55
artoisyes00:55
Bray90820So my ubuntu home server keeps looking network connectivity but ping seems to works00:55
artoisif you use a 64-bit OS00:56
k1l_zippo^: see http://ark.intel.com/de/products/50176/Intel-Pentium-Processor-P6200-3M-Cache-2_13-GHz00:56
zippo^Can I upgrade 32-bits to 64-bits? or do i must format and install?00:56
k1l_zippo^: reinstall00:56
zippo^how?00:56
OerHekszippo reinstall00:56
zippo^yes, without format?00:56
artoisyou could, technically, but it's not worth the trouble00:57
artoisbackup your personal data, your configs, your package list, then do a fresh install00:57
avoiderCan some one tell me the command to chmod ~/.config/hexchat01:00
daftykinsavoider: in order to achieve what?01:01
avoideridk hexchat told me its ubuntu problem to come here01:01
artoisls -al ~/.config/ | grep -i hexchat doesn't say 'insidious'?01:01
daftykins"ls -al ~/.config/ | pastebinit"01:02
avoiderthe error i get is01:02
avoiderYou do not have write access to  /home/insidious/.config/hexchat. Nothing from this session  can be saved.01:02
artoisinteresting01:02
daftykinsavoider: pastebin the above01:02
avoiderok01:02
geniiYou've probably used sudo on it at some point01:02
daftykins^01:02
artoisor migrated it01:03
OerHeksavoider, maybe your filesystem is not clean, so it is mounted readonly01:03
avoideri tried that command it did not work.01:03
artoisavoider: try mine :p01:03
daftykinsavoider: you have to install pastebinit01:03
geniiavoider: I'd suggest: sudo chown insidious:insidious ~/.config/hexchat01:04
daftykinsalso, don't ever tell anyone "it does not work" - say what actually happened01:04
artoisyeah I'm not sure anything in ~/.config should ever be owned by someone else01:04
artoisshould be pretty safe01:04
daftykinsbe nice to check the perms at the same time in one hit01:04
avoiderchown: missing operand after ‘insidious:insidious’01:05
avoiderthat is what it told me01:06
artoisavoider: you copy & paste what he gave you?01:06
artoisfrom after the colon (:) on01:07
avoideryes01:07
avoideryes01:07
geniiavoider: Maybe substitue ~/.config/hexchat for full path then. /home/insidious/.config/hexchat01:07
avoidergenii it worked01:07
geniiI'm sort of wondering if that file even exists now01:07
avoiderthe first command you told me.01:07
artoissort of wondering what user you are using01:07
avoiderwhen i installed hexchat i  did01:08
avoidersudo apt-get install hexchat01:08
avoiderbecause when i tried without using sudo i did not let me.01:08
artoisthat's not so relevant :)01:08
TJ-avoider: what does "echo $USER $HOME" report ?01:08
protnhi folks are there some gui remote server text editors?01:08
protngui love much01:08
protnnano black mofo :)01:09
TJ-protn: mount the remote file-system locally01:09
geniiavoider: If the chown command successfully completed, hexchat shouldn't complain about that particular issue now01:09
avoiderinsidious@hydrogen:~$ echo $USER $HOME01:09
avoiderinsidious /home/insidious01:09
avoiderthat is what it reported.01:09
protnTJ-:  how?01:09
TJ-avoider: OK, you've not got any weird mappings going on01:09
TJ-protn: well, as you've configured ssh already, you could use sshfs01:10
* genii wanders off to watch hockey01:10
TJ-!info sshfs | protn01:10
ubottuprotn: sshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-1ubuntu1 (wily), package size 40 kB, installed size 133 kB01:10
avoiderbrb01:11
SHAWN_d01:12
TJ-protn: once installed see 'man sshfs' but generally I do "mkdir -p ~/mnt/SERVER_NAME; sshfs user@remote ~/mnt/SERVER_NAME"01:12
TJ-protn: then, the user@remote's home file-system is available under $HOME/mnt/SERVER_NAME/01:13
TJ-protn: if you want access to the remote's system directories though, you'll have to jump through some security hoops01:14
TJ-protn: more info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS01:14
insidiousThanks to everyone who helped with the hexchat issues... its working fine now!01:15
artoisgj01:20
locndhi01:20
protnsudo echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > info.php01:22
protn-bash: info.php: Permission denied01:22
protnweird, how do I fix it?01:22
anabainprotn, if you want immediate access to your remote /home/username, basically what you have to do is this: 1) Being a client root, ssh to remote /home/username  in order to add remote server username identity to the client root, that is:  sudo ssh username@server01:23
artoisprotn: use a text editor01:23
artoisprotn: or sudo chown afterwards01:23
artoisprotn: or give root a password and su to it01:24
DaNorbyAnyone havev a hard drive that wouldn' boot to no matter what ya tried?01:24
smartp0wneDaNorby, is it bricked?01:25
anabainprotn, 2) Then copy your username private key at the client to .ssh dir *at your client root*: sudo cp /home/username/.ssh/id_rsa /root/.ssh/01:25
DaNorbyDOn't know.  I made a mistake and bought a used drive.01:26
DaNorby500GB I wanted to replaced a failin drive that was 60gb01:26
DaNorbyIt lets me install an OS but it won't boot to that OS01:26
smartp0wneDaNorby, tried Gparted?01:27
anabainprotn, 3) Being at (root # prompt), check you can log into the remote server as username without having to enter any password: # ssh username@server01:28
DaNorbyI did a complete wipe of the hd twice as well as had linux do the partitions.  Yes tried gparted.01:30
smartp0wneDaNorby, "fdisk /mbr"01:30
smartp0wneDaNorby, these are all my "magic" for hard disks01:31
artoisDaNorby: it boots to a root # prompt?01:32
anabainprotn, btw, the method I described works seamlessly in conjunction with the automounter utility, which allows you to mount your shares (not only sshfs) "on-the-fly" and automatically, e.g., whenever you browse to the mount dir at the client automount will mount that share for you.01:32
DaNorbyYes I have tried the fdisk and still I get nowhere.01:33
artoisDaNorby: it boots to a root # prompt?01:33
DaNorbyWhen it boots it shows "Grub Rescue>"01:34
artoisprobably nothing wrong with the drive, then01:34
artoisDaNorby: boot into the install media, do 'try ubuntu', and we can get some information from you and figure it out01:35
DaNorbyLet me boot it for the full message.01:35
DaNorbyerror: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'.  Entering Rescue mode01:35
DaNorbyOKay.01:36
anabainDaNorby, what distro did you install?01:37
DaNorbyZorin, but I have a mint iso I need to burn.01:38
artoismost any live OS will suffice01:39
artoisparticularly any of zorin, mint, or ubuntu, as they're all Ubuntu01:39
anabainDaNorby, I don't know about mint, but I had an issue very similar to yours01:40
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DaNorbyZorin has booted.01:42
smartp0wnecya guys01:42
anabainDaNorby, in my case the problem was that when partitioning, the installer was not clear about which partitioning method it was using, DOS or GPT. So if you've tried installing more than once you're likely to have messed up your system.01:42
DaNorbyI wiped the drive before each try.01:43
DaNorbyto try and start as if it was a fresh clean hd/install01:43
OerHeksDaNorby, zorin has its own support, mint too01:44
DaNorbyOKay.01:44
anabainDaNorby, make sure you wipe it using gparted from a live cd/usb01:44
DaNorbyI am thinkin a bad burn cause bootin to 'try zorin' isn't showin a menu or anything.01:45
DaNorbyGotcha01:45
anabainDaNorby, if you cannot make it boot, you'll have to put this hdd into another working system and wipe it properly. When you have it installed on the other box, you also should rule out hdd mechanical problems (just in case), so search for smartmontools info and tutorials to perform some basic health checks on your hdd01:48
DaNorbyI will try that.  Thanks.01:51
jedixtj-02:00
jedixhrm.02:00
jedixTJ-: http://pastebin.com/wZP1GmmB02:00
crocis there anyway to use apt-get without having access to 443 or port 80?02:10
crocoutgoing that is02:10
g1bbsanyone know what the hell Espresso is doing with Activity lifecycle when you run an entire suite of tests?02:14
g1bbsI'm getting all sorts of out of order onstart/onstop craziness.  Seems it tries to shut down the activity between tests but... doesnt02:15
OerHeksg1bbs, what is espresso?02:15
nicomachusOerHeks: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/espresso02:15
g1bbsGoogle Espresso.  UI testing framework02:15
* nicomachus had to look it up too. no idea what it does.02:15
kingdroneI am getting system errors on my ubuntu 15-10 install, can someone help ?02:17
nicomachuskingdrone: what are the errors?02:17
OerHekskingdrone, pastebin the errors and let us see02:18
kingdronethe system freezes at various times and also when I try to use firefox, it will freeze02:18
OerHekscroc, no clue how you would use apt-get without 80 and 44302:18
jedixnicomachus: have time for a quick kernel question?  Have you seen something like this before? http://pastebin.com/wZP1GmmB02:19
nicomachusjedix: no idea what I'm looking at here.02:20
jedixnicomachus: ah, earlier I was talking to TJ- about my bluetooth dongle not working..02:20
jedixthanks for looking02:20
OerHekskingdrone, looks like heavy use of the system, what are the specs?02:20
protnfolks how I can select entire text in nano02:21
kingdroneit’s a 4 gb dual core intel cpu, 500 gb drive, and a DVD burner02:21
protnso I can copy all text02:21
protnatm I can choose only what I see02:21
kingdroneI was able to do a install with ubuntu 15-10, but it was a different computer, I took the drive out and put it into the computer I want to boot from but it has been giving me errors02:22
OerHekskingdrone, so what are the system errors? you described only freeses02:22
nicomachusprotn: sometimes it's easier to just do "cat filename.txt" and then copy it from there. I don't use nano, so don't know for sure.02:22
protntrue02:23
OerHekskingdrone, oh, different computer, different videocard?02:23
kingdronewhat do you want me to do, I’ve got a system prompt now on the machine02:23
liunk大家好02:23
OerHeksnice to mention that afterwards...02:23
nicomachusis that chinese...?02:23
liunkyes02:23
nicomachus!cn | liunk02:23
ubottuliunk: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw02:23
kingdroneYes, it was a different video setup, internal from the motherboard, do you think that’s the culprit ?02:23
OerHekskingdrone, could well be, if the specs do not match, i would backup data and reinstall.02:24
kingdroneis it not possible to get an install from one machine and take it over to a different one ? Isn’t it possible to adjust some settting for the video stuff  ?02:26
bazhang!cloning | kingdrone02:26
ubottukingdrone: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate02:26
OerHekskingdrone, system prompt, i think it is a Grub issue,  not finding the UUID from the partitions02:27
OerHekscould be videocard too02:27
m000gleIs there any way to determine which processes are using GPU processor and GPU RAM, like how top or the system monitor do for the CPU?02:27
bazhang!info clonezilla02:27
ubottuclonezilla (source: clonezilla): bare metal backup and recovery of disk drives. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.10.11-1 (wily), package size 678 kB, installed size 2624 kB02:27
bazhangm000gle, for what purpose02:28
m000gleI am running dual GTX 760, each with 2GB; but seem to be at about 60% GPU RAM usage simply with the Ubuntu 15.10 Unity desktop running02:28
m000gleThat seems excessive, even with 4k monitors02:28
kingdroneI am going to install again, hopefully I can give more details soon02:28
bijan_can someone guide me towards which pc to buy to use with ubuntu? I would love to have the option to make it run with 3 4k displays02:29
kingdronehow do I do that apt-clone thingie, I am not that up on the apt-get stuff yet02:29
bazhang!hcl | bijan_ and ##hardware02:29
ubottubijan_ and ##hardware: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection02:29
bijan_m000gle: high gpu ram usage isn't necessarily a bad thing, is it?02:29
bazhangkingdrone, saw the clonezill link or not02:30
kingdroneclonezilla you mean ?02:31
bazhangsee it or not02:31
m000glebijan_: Not necessarily, assuming no performance issues.  However, I have been troubleshooting another issue (where changing window focus leads to a brief stutter, most noticable when multitasking involves watching a video) and wasn't sure if the high GPU RAM or GPU usage were related.02:31
NicolasHey people I can't boot grub.  Im trying tu use the livecd to grub-install when im done doing so and having the boot flag on the grub partion It wont boot grub What im i doing wrong ?02:31
kingdroneI don’t see that02:31
m000glebijan_: They may be completely unrelated, and I'm simply grasping at straws in terms of that original issue02:32
kingdroneI need to see that clonezilla  and want to do a few more tests, I will get back later02:33
speedy__what is a good language to help and handle fresh installs- like a scipt for the stuff install the most used programs and cli- I am wanting this so i can spin up 4 servers then nearly  exact way02:33
NicolasAnyone ? :/02:33
bijan_m000gle: how many displays are you running?02:33
speedy__what did you ask Nicolas02:34
NicolasHey people I can't boot grub.  Im trying tu use the livecd to grub-install when im done doing so and having the boot flag on the grub partion It wont boot grub What im i doing wrong ?02:34
m000glebijan_: Two 4k monitors, each 3840x2160, powered by dual GTX 760 nVidia cards on the latest proprietary drivers02:34
bijan_m000gle: did you check if stuttering occurs with only one monitor?02:35
speedy__ubcd is a good live os- what live cd are you using? Nicolas02:35
m000glebijan_: The same issue existed when the monitors were each 1920x1200, with no discernible difference since the upgrade; so, the most obious concern (i.e. too many pixels) seems moot02:35
m000glebijan_: I can give it a try with a single monitor02:36
NicolasJust the ubuntu 15.0402:36
m000glebijan_: Will you still be around following a reboot, while I test?02:36
speedy__also what is the os your trying to boot Nicolas02:36
bijan_m000gle: sure02:36
Nicolasubuntu02:36
m000glebijan_: Perfect.  I will be back, shortly.02:36
bijan_m000gle: cu :)02:36
speedy__i am guessing this is ubuntu that you installed? Nicolas02:36
NicolasYea. I installed it a few months ago in dual boot with windows 8 I upgraded to windows 10 recently and losed the ability to use grub, I then tried to use boot-repair tool and it basicly made everything go wrong.. lol02:38
NicolasNow im stuck with no grub. I can however put the boot flag on my windows partition and i can boot windows but i want my ubuntu back! lol02:38
fibesyea windows bootloader is a pain02:38
NicolasFuck. it is.. .02:39
Bashing-om!grub02:39
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:39
fibesyay02:39
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Bashing-omNicolas: ^^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub .02:39
NicolasCool thanks,.  But inormaly know my way around linux.. But thanks il go see that and il give it a try.. talk to you guys soon02:40
Bashing-omNicolas: Win10 generally is UEFI .. big difference there from legacy .02:41
m000glebijan_: It appears as if the same stutter exist while only a single 3840x2160 (4k) monitor is connected.  No better no worse =/02:41
bijan_m000gle: okay...02:42
bijan_m000gle: is it happening when playing a video and then switching windows?02:42
NicolasOhh..  If I installed ubuntu on non-UEFI will i still be able to just add the mbr loader in grub ?02:43
m000glebijan_: Playing a video makes the stutter most apparent, as even a lost frame or three matters more than a window with otherwise static content; however, the stutter happens regardless.  This happens even with relatively low resolution videos.02:44
Nicolas@Bashing-om Ohh..  If I installed ubuntu on non-UEFI will i still be able to just add the mbr loader in grub ?02:44
m000glebijan_: It happens every time I change window focus.  So, for example, a video is playing in window A, and I click to switch focus from window B to window C and the video will freeze for a split second.02:45
bijan_m000gle: which os version are you running?02:46
bijan_14.04 or 15.10?02:46
m000gle15.10 64-bit02:46
m000glebijan_: I have also tested both the default nVidia driver version, right up to 358.16 with, again, no difference in the results02:47
Bashing-omNicolas: Nope ... If Windows is installed UEFI then ubuntu must be installed in UEFI, certainly so if on the same hard drive . the 2 boot methods are not compatible .02:48
bijan_I guess it would make sense to create an issue for this.02:48
Nicolas@Bashing-om  Shit,.. So then this mean i have to re-install ubuntu and all ?!02:49
barq_I'm downloading UNEpic off of gog.com, and they're using a 310MB SHELL SCRIPT02:49
m000glebijan_: Could you walk me through the steps?  As much as I've used Ubuntu for years, I've never actually submitted one.02:49
barq_How many wget commands02:49
nicomachusNicolas: language.02:49
Bashing-omNicolas: Most likely .. best await others advise who have the experience ... I mostly Windows illitterate .02:50
bijan_m000gle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs02:50
bijan_m000gle: are you running a video from file or via youtube?02:51
bijan_m000gle: is the video playback hardware accelerated or not02:51
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m000glebijan_: From a file (typically MP4 in either VLC or Videos) and flash using Chrome with GPU acceleration enabled both exhibit the same issue, neither better nor worse than the other02:53
bijan_m000gle: hmm... difficult to tell...02:54
bijan_m000gle: http://i.stack.imgur.com/XTgiI.jpg02:54
bijan_m000gle: in vlc02:54
skreech_Hello where can I pastebin images?02:55
m000glebijan_: I don't see that specific setting in VLC.  However, I do see "hardware accelerated decoding" in Input/Codecs, and it is set to automatic.02:57
nicomachus!paste | skreech_02:57
ubottuskreech_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:57
m000glebijan_: I also see "accelerated video output (overlay)", with a toottip indicating hardware acceleration, under Videos02:58
m000glebijan_: The latter is obviously also checked02:58
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skreech_Thanks nicomachus03:07
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nicomachushi pepo.03:22
meelaxhi guys, I'm using an ubuntu live USB on an iMac03:22
meelaxi'm having trouble connecting the magic trackpad03:22
meelaxi've read the wiki article and I got it to pait03:22
meelaxpair*03:22
nicomachusmeelax: this wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicTrackpad03:23
meelaxbut everytime I go to the bluetooth menu at the top and flip the "connected" switch it turns back off03:23
meelaxnicomachus: yep03:23
TBotNikAll, What is the best way, in BASH, to get the size of an inserted flash drive?  Examples please!03:24
nicomachusTBotNik: parted -l03:24
meelaxbut yeah03:24
meelaxso anyways03:24
meelaxI downloaded blueman and tried to connect it03:25
meelaxand I clicked "trust" and then "connect to input service"03:25
meelaxand it says "too many levels of symlinks"03:25
nicomachusmeelax: easy on the enter key. put as much on one line as possible.03:25
meelaxnicomachus: sorry. i'm used to chatting with friends on IRC, not tech support :P03:26
meelaxwhen I click on "setup" in blueman, I click "proceed without pairing", then "connect to input service" and it says "device added but failed to connect"03:28
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Gaming4JCHello, does anyone know of a good calendar application? I remember using (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Sunbird) in the past, but it is discontinued03:32
H3ruSi create a new release using raspberry ubuntu wiki script03:32
H3ruSwhere the img file stay ?03:32
H3ruSbmaptool create -o "$BASEDIR/${DATE}-ubuntu-${RELEASE}.bmap" "$BASEDIR/${DATE}-ubuntu-${RELEASE}.img"03:32
TBotNiknicomachus: So using "parted -l" in bash how do I parse that for just the size without all the trash verbage?03:34
nicomachusTBotNik: you can paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com and link here if you'd like someone else to take a look.03:35
TBotNiknicomachus: Sure but in pastebin.com03:35
nicomachusTBotNik: but I'm sorry, it's likely under "sudo fdisk -l" not "parted -l"03:35
skreech_Hello werewolf_103:47
TBotNiknicomachus: PB at: http://pastebin.com/JS3PkYZt  Includes old BASH routine, no longer working!03:48
werewolf_1hi03:48
TBotNiknicomachus: Put both the parted -l and the fdisk -l in there!03:48
skreech_Добро пожаловат :-D03:49
nicomachus!ru | skreech_03:49
ubottuskreech_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.03:49
werewolf_1O:-)03:49
werewolf_1what if i dont want help in russian?03:49
nicomachusthen you can get help in English here.03:49
skreech_nicomachus: I'm getting there. Just introducing IRC03:49
nicomachusTBotNik: looks like it is 4gb03:50
TBotNiknicomachus: I'm looking to parse the info, currently on the 128G flash but have other sizes like 1G , 2G, 4G, 16G, 32G, 64G and the 128G03:50
werewolf_1can i get help with netflix on my ubuntu03:50
nicomachuswerewolf_1: what's the problem?03:50
nicomachusTBotNik: what do you mean you need to parse it?03:51
werewolf_1i googled how to make it work did all the steps, ill share the link , but it still wont work03:51
nicomachuswerewolf_1: what browser are you using?03:51
werewolf_1i tried with chrome03:51
TBotNiknicomachus: Well have both the 128G and 4G inserted right now, but trying to get the script to find the 128G.  Guess it needs to parse both then see which is largest!03:52
nicomachuswerewolf_1: as far as I know it should work fine in Chrome.03:52
nicomachusTBotNik: ok, then you know the sizes. What else do you need to do?03:52
nicomachuswerewolf_1: is it giving you an error?03:52
werewolf_1it says oops something went wrong03:52
nicomachuswerewolf_1: sounds like a Chrome error, not an ubuntu error.03:53
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TBotNiknicomachus: The Bash script has to run in CRON, no human interaction.  Must determine the size of all inserted flash drive and choose the largest, this part of the scripting is for a backup routine, which must always look for the largest "REMOVEABLE" drive.03:55
nicomachusTBotNik: sounds like an issue for #bash, not #ubuntu.03:55
TBotNiknicomachus: I posted there and no response.  Must all be sleeping!03:56
skreech_werewolf_1: what is your link?03:56
pocketprotectorhttp://pastebin.ca/3331537 <-- Trusty should have 3.19.x kernel.. so the release applicability seems incorrect.. thoughts?03:57
nicomachusTBotNik: ok, well, sorry this isn't bash support.03:57
skreech_It's ##bash03:57
nicomachus!info linux-image-generic trusty03:57
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.74.80 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB03:57
nicomachuspocketprotector: ^03:57
skreech_TBotNik: I would suspect that you could parse the ISB stack or the hwinfo to get the sizes03:58
skreech_ actually even fdisk should help03:58
nicomachusskreech_: TBotNik: regardless, it's not ubuntu support so not on-topic here.03:58
pocketprotector!info linux-image-generic wily03:59
EriC^^TBotNik: i'd use lsblk if you're sure they only have 1 partition03:59
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0.23.25 (wily), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB03:59
werewolf_1i also tried  this http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/  and this http://itsfoss.com/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-14-04/03:59
TBotNiknicomachus: Funny #bash finally responded and said not a "BASH" issue as that is OS specific as to what command to issue in finding the flash size!04:00
nicomachus...which is fdisk...04:01
TBotNikEriC^^: lsblk is much more condensed for sure!04:03
TBotNikAll, OK updated the PB and added result from "lsblk" per EriC^^!04:06
skreech_TBotNik: lsusb as well :)04:07
skreech_Hmm Let me see if that PPA is still there04:10
TBotNikskreech_: lsusb gives no sizes04:10
TBotNikall, the lsblk shows the 128G as 115.3G and the 4G as 3.8G, close but no perfect match, must have to supervisory consumption!04:12
EriC^^TBotNik: try this lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}'04:12
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skreech_werewolf_1: Do you know what  version of Ubuntu you have?04:13
skreech_ !version04:13
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »04:13
EriC^^TBotNik: sorry04:13
werewolf_114 0404:13
EriC^^TBotNik: try this lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print $1}'04:13
EriC^^crap nevermind04:14
nicomachuslol04:14
werewolf_1lol04:14
skreech_werewolf_1: :-)04:14
EriC^^TBotNik: first one returns the largest size of the disk, not the name though04:14
goddardhow can i use policykit files with qt creator?04:15
u258going to buy a new laptop for coding/development jobs. love ubuntu. what laptop would be good?04:16
EriC^^TBotNik: this is the ugliest * ive ever seen but it'll work04:17
EriC^^grep $(lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}') <(lsblk -b)04:17
cfhowlettu258 too broad a question04:17
EriC^^sorry i dunno awk that well so i had to mix and match and ugly hack it04:17
TBotNikEriC^^: your cmd string returns: 1000204886016 which I assume will fit into the formula in the script to yield the actual GB?04:17
skreech_werewolf_1: Can you open a terminal ?04:17
u258cfhowlett: just recommend a normal one.04:18
cfhowlett"normal" ... yeah.04:18
cfhowletthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops04:18
EriC^^TBotNik: yeah, try the last one, it should return the line from lsblk with the largest disk, test thoroughly though as on my pc the largest is at top04:18
u258cfhowlett: is it easily to install ubuntu  on macbook? or it is a waste to buy mac to use ubuntu04:19
cfhowlett!mac | u258, I've seen it done.  I would say yes only if you plan to dual boot with OSX.  Jusy my opinion.04:19
ubottuu258, I've seen it done.  I would say yes only if you plan to dual boot with OSX.  Jusy my opinion.: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages04:19
u258thanks for above04:20
cfhowlettu258, try this page as well.  FWIW, I bought the dell m3800 developer edition.  comparable to a mac pro.  I am most happy.04:20
TBotNikEriC^^: Was trying to paste into my calculator but it's fighting me, so will run in script instead and echo result!04:21
EriC^^TBotNik: try grep $(lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}') <(lsblk -b) | cut -d" " -f104:22
EriC^^it should return the largest disk04:22
skreech_werewolf_1: You know where your terminal is?04:23
skreech_!shell04:23
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal04:23
IMeasureYouthe terminal is the power04:25
EriC^^TBotNik: i have an idea about a simpler way04:25
skreech_IMeasureYou: <3 terminal04:25
EriC^^you could just use sort04:25
werewolf_1i do04:26
skreech_werewolf_1: if you can open that type into "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pipelight/stable"04:26
EriC^^TBotNik: lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -104:26
EriC^^way cleaner04:26
werewolf_1i think i did that before04:27
skreech_That shoudl let you know if it is setup.04:27
Eagle1776Hi04:27
skreech_Hi Eagle177604:27
skreech_werewolf_1: Alright and you installed pipelight ?04:27
Eagle1776skreech_ im looking to get into linux for the first time. I downloaded linux mint and was wondering what the best program to burn it to a iso is. I downloaded this program called imgburn and my Antivirus started going crazy.04:29
cfhowlettEagle1776, sorry.. no mint support here. this is ubuntu.04:29
cfhowlett!mint > Eagle177604:29
ubottuEagle1776, please see my private message04:29
EriC^^TBotNik: it returns them in human-readable format04:30
luketheduke0dd04:30
skreech_Eagle1776: What OS are you on?04:31
TBotNikEriC^^: So in BASH how do I assign this to a var?  What I've tried so far isn't working04:32
Eagle1776skreech_ i am on Windows 8.104:32
skreech_Eagle1776: have you ever burnt an ISO before?04:32
luketheduke0TBotNik, assign what to a variable?04:32
EriC^^^ yeah04:32
EriC^^the largest disk?04:32
luketheduke0skreech_, it's common among winblows users04:33
Eagle1776skreech_ no I have never burn an iso before04:33
skreech_werewolf_1: try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pipelight-multi"04:33
cfhowlettEagle1776, ask ##windows about burning software04:33
nolsenHow to keep resolv.conf from changing the dns servers I set?04:33
EriC^^TBotNik: do you want the largest disk or largest partition?04:33
nolsenIt keeps changing my 2 lines to 1 "nameserver 127.0.0.1"04:33
TBotNikEriC^^, luketheduke0: your cmd string: lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}'04:33
skreech_Eagle1776: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto04:34
EriC^^TBotNik: nevermind that one, i came up with an easier way above04:34
EriC^^using sort -h04:34
EriC^^do you want the largest partition or largest disk? TBotNik04:34
skreech_werewolf_1: it should either say it is already they latest version or ask if it should install04:35
TBotNikEriC^^: formula convert to G is Size x 512 / 100000004:35
skreech_Eagle1776: Let me know if you need more infor than that04:35
skreech_nolsen: disable DHCP ?04:35
Eagle1776Oh04:35
werewolf_1its already the latest version04:35
nolsenskreech_: I need DHCP.04:35
werewolf_1i did it today04:35
Eagle1776skreech_ ok thanks for your help04:35
skreech_Eagle1776: are you putting it on a CD or a USB stick?04:36
goddardhow can i use policykit files with qt creator?04:36
TBotNikEriC^^: The largest inserted flash or Removable drive!04:36
skreech_werewolf_1: And you installed the netflix-desktop ?04:36
EriC^^so you want the largest disk04:36
Eagle1776skreech_ i am putting it on a dvd04:36
werewolf_1yes!04:36
EriC^^i dunno if it's removable or not04:36
werewolf_1but it is not working04:37
EriC^^TBotNik: largestdisk=$(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2)04:37
skreech_werewolf_1: Alright so are you using that or viewing in the browser ?04:37
werewolf_1and not opening04:37
EriC^^that's how you can assign it to a variable TBotNik04:37
werewolf_1i see that i have it but when i click on it its not opening04:37
skreech_Eagle1776: alright then you should be able to simply right click it and chooseburn image04:37
TBotNikEriC^^: I'm running 1TB, 2TB, 3TB and 4TB HDs, so care less about them!04:37
skreech_werewolf_1: Ah ok can you try type netflix-desktop in the terminal?04:38
EriC^^then you need some way of only checking the flash drives04:38
werewolf_1 netflix-desktop04:39
werewolf_1fixme:winediag:start_process Wine Staging 1.9.0 is a testing version containing experimental patches.04:39
werewolf_1fixme:winediag:start_process Please mention your exact version when filing bug reports on winehq.org.04:39
skreech_werewolf_1: Hmmm Ok so it's doing something :)04:40
werewolf_1?04:40
werewolf_1its not doing anything else04:40
skreech_It said starting process So I guess it's doing something ?04:40
werewolf_1no its not04:41
skreech_That's the only thing it said?04:41
werewolf_1yes04:41
skreech_hmm04:41
skreech_can you open another terminal ?04:41
skreech_I just want to see what version of wine you have. It says there you should have 1.904:42
werewolf_1i did open04:42
skreech_"apt-cache show wine" should work04:42
EriC^^TBotNik: do the disks ever change? you could exclude the 2 3 4tb in the search04:43
werewolf_1Architecture: i38604:43
werewolf_1Source: wine1.604:43
werewolf_1Version: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu404:43
werewolf_1Depends: wine1.604:43
TBotNikEriC^^: The flashes change constantly!  Each tech has his own flash and must run all backups to his flash, whether "daily", "weekly" "monthly" or "system" level backups!04:44
EriC^^i mean the hard disks04:45
TBotNikI have 500 techs, so is a real problem!04:45
EriC^^i mean the hard disks on the pc..04:45
TBotNikEriC^^: Not one PC backing up, but a system of 8 Servers and sales floor of 200+ pcs!04:46
skreech_werewolf_1: Hmm ok so maybe it needs a new version ?04:46
cfhowlettTBotNik, perhaps ask #ubuntu-server about this??04:46
skreech_Let me try figure this out04:47
TBotNikEriC^^: Working toward combining the backups with GIT to keep everything in incremental small batches tracking only changed files!  Not there yet!  Little bit of a challenge!04:47
skreech_TBotNik:  :)04:48
EriC^^TBotNik: if you're sure of the flash drive sizes, you could exclude everything that isn't <128gb from your search04:48
TBotNikEriC^^, skreech, cfhowlett, only 1 Linux machine in the  entire building and you know MicroSuck, what I'm doing not possible there!04:49
skreech_EriC^^: Not a very robust solution. As soon as they release a drive bigger than 128GB it would need to be rewritten04:50
EriC^^yeah that's true04:50
TBotNikEriC^^: I listed the flash sizes earlier, that range from 1GB up to 128GB, but going to but limits on allowing anything below 32GB, as data alone can crash a 16GB, which I did and exceeding size on a flash totally toasts it!  Found out the hard way!04:52
TBotNikEriC^^: I have to know the size, because I can then write the scripting to limit the size of the backup, making intelligent decisions about "pertainent" data!04:53
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TBotNikEriC^^: If the tech only backs up his personal date from the "user" folders that usually runs under 4 GB!  But if they are backing up DB dumps to re-install on their Laptops, usually over 16GB!04:55
TBotNikEriC^^: I'm trying to write "The Perfect Backup" script, which at System Level is running either clonezilla or Ghost, but modular in design so all the different scripts can either work independently or together!  This script is call "drive-size.sh" because all it does is report the size of the largest "removable" drive, whiich normally is flash but can also be an external USB HD, usually for the Monthly and System backups!04:59
skreech_TBotNik: Are you doing it all in bash ?05:00
TBotNikskreech_: Currently Yes!05:01
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TBotNikAll, The old cmd:  /sys/block/sd[cdef]/removable actually saw the "removeable" tag so would only process on those drives, but this is no longer supported in Ubuntu!05:03
skreech_TBotNik: I'm going to say that you will want to hang out in ##bash05:03
goddardhow can i use policykit files with qt creator?05:04
TBotNikskreech_: I only got one answer there, but need to recheck them!05:04
skreech_Since Backup has been going on since we stopped using punched cards It's obviously not a solved problem but doing low level parsing is going to be something ongoing05:04
EriC^^TBotNik: this is getting a bit long05:04
EriC^^for one line05:04
skreech_TBotNik: as a hint they are very very rude there but almost always end up answering your question05:05
EriC^^TBotNik: i guess you could make one script that parses all the drives and makes a list of the usb drives alone, then pass that to the sort command to get the largest05:05
skreech_http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ is what you want to spend your spare time reading05:05
EriC^^TBotNik: i found on google that this'll tell you if it's a usb readlink -f /sys/class/block/sdb/05:05
skreech_EriC^^: that would be my solution though I don't know if the newer Serial drives come up as USB since the spec is very similar05:06
EriC^^my ext usb hdd says /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb105:06
EriC^^internal hdd says /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata105:06
EriC^^maybe test it out TBotNik05:07
skreech_Then just parse for usb ?05:07
EriC^^TBotNik: you could do this for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i; done | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f205:10
EriC^^i can't test it out though cause i only have 1 usb05:10
Carlos31hola05:12
skreech_HOla05:13
TBotNikEriC^^: Not sure as not getting an output from that!05:14
EriC^^TBotNik: i think i see a bug05:14
TBotNikEriC^^: Teamwork is always the best work! Cheers!05:16
EriC^^TBotNik: try for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2; done05:16
__Mike__hello all05:18
__Mike__how do you update my version of ubuntu, from 14.04 to 15.1005:18
TBotNikEriC^^: OK that tells me what drive it is attached as, which is sdc, but get no size with that!05:19
cfhowlett__Mike__, 1.  are you sure you need to go to 15.10?  2.  eolupdate: 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10  3.  wait until April: 14.04 > 16.04  OR download 15.10 and do a clean install05:19
__Mike__aaaahhh, ok, I will just wait :-)05:20
__Mike__Everything is great05:20
__Mike__was just more pondering the question05:20
cfhowlett__Mike__, current version is 14.04.3  ... you have what?05:21
EriC^^TBotNik: yeah just the largest flash drive05:21
EriC^^TBotNik: i mean only the flash drives05:21
TBotNikEriC^^: the cmd: largestdisk=$(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2) gives me the largest 1.5TB HD but does not filter by the "removable" tag!05:21
EriC^^TBotNik: then use lsblk | grep -Ev $(tr '\n' '|' < /tmp/usb) | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f205:22
EriC^^TBotNik: yes..05:22
satan-can i fix input/output error without deleting anything on my hdd?05:22
TBotNikEriC^^: and that also is connection point, sda, not size!05:22
cfhowlettsatan-, i/o errors typically are caused by failing hardware.05:22
EriC^^TBotNik: we agreed that you could parse the usb's using readlink first to get which one is a flash drive and then run the sort command to get the largest05:23
EriC^^TBotNik: for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2; done > /tmp/usb05:23
EriC^^that will give you the list of flash drives05:23
EriC^^TBotNik: biggestflashdrive=$(lsblk | grep -Ev $(tr '\n' '|' < /tmp/usb) | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2)05:23
EriC^^that will give you the biggest flash drive, test extensively as i didn't test much cause i dont have 2 usb's05:24
skreech_!upgrade05:25
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:25
EriC^^TBotNik: oh actually i spot a typo in the first one05:27
EriC^^TBotNik: rm /tmp/usb; for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2; done >> /tmp/usb05:27
EriC^^use this instead05:28
EriC^^oh nevermind, it wasn't a typo, i'm getting sleepy, off to bed05:30
EriC^^test thoroughly05:30
TBotNikEriC^^: Thanks!  I'm with you enough for tonight!05:33
abesQuestion: I am using oracle virtualbox with latest ubuntu as guest OS along with samba to be able to copy files from my Windows 7 host machine - when I copy and paste certain files they appear blank (i.e. I copy 9kb index.html from Windows and the file does exist in Ubuntu but is blank). Any thoughts?05:34
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cfhowlett!vbox > abes05:34
ubottuabes, please see my private message05:34
EriC^^TBotNik: i just realized i made a mistake in the second one that gets the largest, after lsblk it uses /tmp/usb to exclude the ones in the list ( the usb's ) you need to only include those05:35
abescfhowlett: I am not sure I follow. Do you believe that the issue is due to the fact that I am running it in a VM in particular?05:35
cfhowlettabes, I seem to recall that copying between host to guest via vbox requires a particular setting.  #vbox would know more.05:36
abescfhowlett: thank you for your help05:37
cfhowletthappy2help! abes05:38
akikabes: there's also the shared folders functionality. have you used it?05:40
akikabes: you can share a folder from the host to the guest through vbox05:41
cfhowlettabes, this ^^ works.  I share my music files05:42
virgosunhi all05:43
virgosunmy fstab parse error05:43
virgosuncan any one care lo stare05:43
virgosun# /etc/fstab: static file system information.05:44
virgosun#05:44
virgosun# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a05:44
virgosun# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to nam$05:44
virgosun# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).05:44
virgosun#05:44
terrasapienTBotNik: this will return your largest disks: t=$(lsblk -b | awk '{print $4}' | sort -n | tail -1);lsblk -b | grep -A2 $t | grep -v disk05:45
virgosun?05:46
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EriC^^TBotNik: no problem, cheers :)05:49
EriC^^terrasapien: he wants the largest flash drive, excluding internal disks05:51
OerHeksvirgosun, use paste.ubuntu.com please05:52
cfhowlett!paste > virgosun05:52
ubottuvirgosun, please see my private message05:52
terrasapienEriC^^: Ah, okay, I'll poke at it a while05:54
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sheepgeekhello05:58
nolsenI can't seem to figure out why I can't set my custom DNS servers and still use DHCP.06:01
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abescfhowlett: hey man you still around?06:03
cfhowlettabes, yeah.  what's up?06:03
abescfhowlett: so... something really bizzare is happening... I copied a .zip over FTP to avoid any samba/vm related issues, unpacked it and I see all my files are ok... I made another directory "original-files" and copied ALL files to it as well - the file index.html in /home/abes always has 0kb... I do rm index.html, then cp original-files/index.html (verified that this one has 9kb and the content06:05
abesis right) and the newly copied index.html still has 0kb!!!!06:05
nolsendnsmasq[813]: using nameserver 127.0.1.1#53 <= Is there a way to prevent that?06:06
cfhowlettabes, that is indeed bizarre.  I must claim ignorance.  Restate the issue for the channel and let someone with pertinent address it.06:06
abescfhowlett: when copying an .html file from one directory to another (cp /home/file.html /home/other) the resulting file is empty (0kb) while to original file has 9k and contains the correct HTML06:08
nolsenhello?06:08
cfhowlettabes, right.  don't address this to me as others will assume I know what to do with it.06:08
cfhowlettnolsen, welcome to ubuntu support.  ask.06:08
nolsen...06:09
nolsenI already asked.06:09
cfhowlettnolsen, ah!  then be patient please.06:09
abescfhowlett: therefore I should assume that you don't, correct?06:09
skreech__!upgrade06:10
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:10
cfhowlettabes, let me be emphatic - tis over my head, Cap'n!06:10
skreech__abes: What are you doing?06:10
nolsenActually, why /etc/resolv.conf keeps going back to 127.0.1.1 when I set it to 8.8.8.8?06:13
abescfhowlett: ok, thanks, I appreciate it. One thing I noticed is when I open the copied (empty) file with vi and add a random string then try to save I get a warning saying the file has been changed while I had it open, making me believe that it is somehow being constantly cleared... it's just that one file... strange!06:14
OerHeksnolsen, if you read the resolv.conf, you know that is not the way to do that, use network manager, set it up dhcp without dns.06:15
abescfhowlett: you were right... it was beyond this channel... I had a stupid npm watcher running that breks stuff.... sorry for your trouble!06:17
OerHeksnolsen, see http://imgur.com/orsrOrj06:17
cfhowlettabes, no trouble!  what is "npm watcher" again?06:17
OerHeksnolsen, then you can add your dns below that06:17
nolsenOerHeks: That's a per-access point thing.06:17
OerHeksnolsen, so? setup all your connections that way? no so hard to do06:19
satinderhi06:19
satinderI am working on shell scripting06:19
nolsenOerHeks: ...06:19
satinderI want just verification of my concept is good or bad06:20
satinderIs while loop in script is good or bad if my task is repeating and that task is running 24 x 706:21
somsip!ot | satinder06:21
ubottusatinder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:21
somsipsatinder: so maybe you should ask in #bash06:21
satinderokk sorry06:21
satindersorry06:22
nolsenOerHeks: That would be alot of work to do per access point.06:24
abescfhowlett: npm is a node package manager and a watcher basically is suppsoed to execute a task if there is a change in the file/dir it's watching - general purpose is when you are working with say CSS and JavaScript whenever you save it will re-run the build process (minification, etc.) and reload the page in your browser so you can see the changes the "instantly" directly from a production-ready06:24
abesbuild06:24
cfhowlettabes, ... right.  to the wiki for me.  thanks.06:25
OerHeksnolsen what do you suggest? we don't do that for you. it is just a few mouseclicks and a dns paste.06:26
crazyhorse18is there anyway to encrypt / prevent access to a running ubuntu volume on aws?06:26
skreech__nolsen: Hi06:28
eagles0513875hey guys how can i change my setting from downloading and upgrading to LTS releases to also upgrading to intermediate releases please?06:28
somsipcrazyhorse18: prevent from where?06:28
skreech__http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-switch-to-opendns-in-ubuntu-for-faster-browsing06:29
crazyhorse18somsip: from aws employees06:29
skreech__abes: are you copying over FTP ?06:29
somsip!encrypt | crazyhorse1806:29
ubottucrazyhorse18: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory06:29
eagles0513875!upgrade06:29
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:29
crazyhorse18somsip: in us-east you can enable EBS encryption.. but in the region i'm trying to run it on you can't06:30
somsipcrazyhorse18: that's an AWS function, not an Ubuntu function, so not supported here06:30
eagles0513875does the upgrade link the bot provided does taht only upgrade you from one LTS to another LTS06:30
somsipeagles0513875: you want to upgrade from LTS to non-LTS 3 months before the next LTS is due out?06:31
cfhowlettEagle1776, if true ^^ unwise ...06:31
eagles0513875somsip: yes i dont mind having to upgrade again in 3 months time.06:31
eagles0513875cfhowlett: why do you say that06:32
eagles0513875im on 14.04 at the moment06:32
somsipeagles0513875: http://askubuntu.com/questions/240160/can-ubuntu-server-10-04-4-lts-be-upgraded-to-non-lts06:32
OerHekseagles0513875, you have to go from 14.04 > 14.10 ( eol ) > 15.04 ( eol ) > 15.10 ...06:32
cfhowlett14.04 > 14.10 > 15.0406:32
eagles0513875:-/06:32
OerHeksi would do fresh install. much faster.06:33
eagles0513875ok so wait until 16.0u4 then change06:33
eagles0513875i think ill do that then06:33
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zalatanravi06:40
bob2017hey… is k1rk around?06:44
potatoeHello, I've a question, how is software packaged with LTS releases like 14.04 optimized for newer hardware? Like do you guys build for core-avx etc?06:46
potatoeI am not asking about how I can do it myself but I want to know about software packaged within apt06:46
K1rkSup bob201706:46
bob2017k1rk: hey thanks for your help last night.  by setting fbcon=map:1 on the kernel command line, i get to the point where it shows me a text login screen. but, before i can login, all three screens go black except they show a cursor, that doesn’t flash, in the upper-left corner.06:47
bob2017i don’t see anything in the logs that gives me any ideas06:47
K1rkhmm so you get a TTY for a bit then it disappears?06:49
bob2017k1rk: yeah, just long enough for me to notice its there and get excited.  and when it disappears, there is a cursor in the upper left, but it doesn’t flash06:50
K1rkbob2017, sounds to me like something's taking over the screen, like maybe an X session is trying (and failing) to start.06:51
bob2017k1rk: yeah thats what it sounds like to me too, but it does that even with gfxpayload=text and gfx=text both set06:51
K1rkbob2017, there was a time when I knew enough about the boot process that I could customize the way X launched and stuff, but that was all pre-systemd, I'm not sure how things might be different now.06:53
bob2017k1rk: actually, the one thing i do see, is that the xorg.failsafe.log *still* says that “more than one possible primary device” was found, then it picks the nvidia instead of the ati06:53
K1rkYour version of ubuntu has systemd right bob2017 ?06:54
bob2017k1rk: its off the latest livecd so i hope so06:54
bob2017k1rk: nouveau is the one for nvidia, right?06:55
akikK1rk: do you know how to get back the 80x24 consold for the boot phase?06:55
K1rkakik, no idea what you're talking about lol06:55
K1rkbob2017, yeah that is right.06:55
bob2017k1rk: then that’s what’s happening.  it keeps trying to start the nvidia instead of starting the ATI.  It’s trying to use the wrong video card, which has no monitors connected.06:56
shafoxhi i have copied one of the init script file and named it different but when i try to run it doesnt show anything in the terminal .06:56
K1rkbob2017, getting a little sketchy here with my expertise...but on RHEL there's the concept of "systemd targets", you set the systemd target to graphical or not graphical, perhaps could try setting the systemd target so you get a text console?06:56
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bob2017k1rk: how would i do that?06:56
shafoxlemme know what information you need i will provide06:56
akikK1rk: ubuntu changes from 80x24 virtual console to a higher resolution fbconsole during boot06:56
bob2017k1rk: (also i think we may be close, if we can just tell X which graphics card to use...)06:56
bob2017akik: do you have updog installed?06:57
K1rkbob2017, can you remove the card you're not using?06:58
akikbob2017: no, what is that?06:58
bob2017k1rk: i really, really, really don’t want to lol…  its a pain in the rear of serious proportions06:58
bob2017akik: what’s what?06:58
K1rkbob2017, the one you want to use is the ATI?06:58
bob2017k1rk: yes.  (the nvidia is only for deep learning training.)06:58
K1rkbob2017, maybe blacklist nouveau driver so it doesn't load?06:58
akikbob2017: you just asked me about updog06:59
bob2017k1rk: would that tell it to use the other device though?  i could try it i guess…06:59
K1rkbob2017, to do that you'd want to add the line "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and then try to boot.06:59
bob2017akik: so what are you asking?06:59
K1rkbob2017, I think X would ignore the card because no driver is loaded...06:59
akikbob2017: you just asked me about updog06:59
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bob2017akik: goddammit you’re supposed to say “what’s updog” so i can say “n’much, dawg, ‘sup wit u?”07:00
K1rkbob2017, unfortunately my deepest knowledge is in non-GUI systems, but I have done this nouveau blacklist as part of installing the normal nVidia driver.  However if you blacklist the driver and don't load an nvidia driver, it should just make that card have no driver.07:00
bob2017k1rk: you don’t think it’ll conclude that it just can’t ifnd a driver and fail?07:00
akikbob2017: i'm not american yo07:00
K1rkbob2017, got anything to lose by trying it? :P07:00
bob2017k1rk: that’s a good point.  I’ll be back in a few minutes :)07:00
K1rkMachine doesn't boot anyway right? hehe07:00
K1rkI think blacklisting the nvidia driver will stop X from thinking there's a usable nvidia card07:01
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CinnamonRickRollheyo07:09
bob2017k1rk:  I am *not* speaking to you from an IRC client running on ubuntu :p07:10
K1rkhmm?07:10
K1rkno luck?07:11
bob2017k1rk: It didn’t work :p same thing happened07:11
bob2017and i couldn’t even get akik to ask what’s updog07:11
bob2017k1rk: which log are we most interested in now?07:12
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K1rkbob2017, are you still seeing that duplicate graphics card in x log?07:14
Guest83827jlk07:14
Guest83827mairypoppinz.weebly.com07:15
Guest83827hi guys i need help with my audio07:15
Guest83827Im using lmms studio and auddscity07:15
bob2017k1rk: Im not entirely sure.  The x logs aren’t timestamped.  This time the xorg.1.log got a recent write, not just xorg.failsafe.log.  i’m going through them now, and xorg.1. shows both video cards and it also shows nouveau being loaded, but i’m not sure if it was this boot07:15
Guest83827audacity07:16
cfhowlettGuest83827, #opensourcemusicians07:16
K1rkbob2017, could always move those logs out of the way and try again07:16
bob2017k1rk: that’s only going to tell us if the blacklisting nouveau worked.  do we have an option if it didn’t work?07:17
linuxhphi frnds .is any body help me for to create hotspot in ubuntu 14.04.07:17
patrickxxgreencommNDS07:18
patrickxxgreencommands07:18
bob2017k1rk: shouldn’t setting text on the kernel command line tell it not to load X at all?07:19
K1rkbob2017, I believe it should yeah07:20
K1rkHonestly I've never tried to make X not load on a GUI system lol07:20
bob2017k1rk: it isn't07:20
K1rkIf I didn't want X I would install a command line only distro like server edition.07:20
bob2017k1rk: you kids and your GUI’s on unix-based systems...07:20
patrickxxgreen#chat07:20
bob2017back in my day we had two colors, black and green, and we liked it!07:20
K1rkbob2017, have you considered starting from CLI and building your system?  Like ubuntu server edition or mini.iso install07:21
K1rkThat should give you more control over the process and in the process you might discover what's going wrong.07:21
K1rkIf you install from mini.iso you don't have to install an X environment at all07:22
K1rkYou could still install it later from apt, set it up yourself07:22
K1rkbob2017, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD07:22
bob2017k1rk:  i was just thinking that… but the whole point of this exercise is to switch specirfically to ubuntu because that’s the only OS that a particular piece of software will compile on, which I need (hierarchical softmax for torch).  so i don’t want to deviate from the baseline configuration07:22
K1rkbob2017, highly doubt your software will care what GUI or window manager you're using lol, the mini.iso isn't any less Ubuntu07:23
bob2017k1rk: consider that the software is tied into te GPU, yeah it may actually care07:23
K1rkThere's nothing sacred about the GUI07:24
K1rkInstalling the GUI from scratch would help you understand that07:24
K1rklol07:24
bob2017k1rk:  true, but i don’t think i could even build torch without a working qt installation07:24
bob2017k1rk: i agree with your point as a matter of principle, but as a matter of this particular software package, i’m not confident in it.07:24
K1rkWhat exactly do you hope to accomplish after you disable X?07:26
K1rkYou'll still have no gui07:26
K1rklol07:26
bob2017k1rk:  well if i can get into the system i figure i’ll be able to get X working07:27
bob2017k1rk: but wait a sec… i found a crash file from an hour ago!07:27
K1rktbh I've never encountered the issue you're facing as a result of having 2 graphics cards.  I once ran a Ubuntu system with 2 separate, different, non-SLI'ed graphics cards07:28
K1rkAnd I had monitors on both with desktop environment on everything at once07:28
bob2017k1rk: yes i agree with you what i’m experiencing means something isn’t working right07:29
K1rkAnother possible option might be can you disable the interface slot holding the unused graphics card?  Sometimes this is an option in the BIOS07:30
bob2017k1rk: not on a mac pro.  ok i deleted the logs and i’ll try it again… any suggestions for what to try if i do end up logged in to a CLI?07:30
bob2017is there an X command line to force the choice of device?07:30
hateballyou can write your own xorg.conf07:31
K1rkbob2017, http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.html07:32
K1rkbob2017, you can choose primary graphics card in your xorg.conf07:32
K1rkThat seems like the logical next step07:32
bob2017k1rk:  wow writing that file is going to be a giant pain in the ass07:35
bob2017k1rk: is there a way to just pick the device and let the system figure the rest out?07:35
bob2017alright…. I’m going in… wish me luck!07:35
K1rkbob2017, it's always been my experience that having as much or as little in xorg.conf is ok...07:36
K1rkbob2017, I don't think you need to write parts you don't need07:36
bramgnhttps://xkcd.com/963/07:39
K1rkbramgn, Yes xD07:40
PowerKillerKSwapd is using 50% of CPU 1, wut?07:41
OerHeksPowerKiller, sounds dramatic, but is this bad?07:42
PowerKilleryes07:42
PowerKillerwasting my CPU07:42
PowerKillerI have swapoff'd my swap07:42
PowerKillerbut still no adv07:42
OerHeksIf you disabled swap, it is.07:43
bob2017k1rk:  ok, with fresh logs, it is still loading nouveau, even though its in the blacklist.conf07:44
PowerKillerit disappeared07:44
bob2017k1rk: google says perhaps initramfs needs to be purged of nouveau? does tha tmake sense?07:45
OerHeksPowerKiller, oke now? i read a lot about kswapd + cpu usage...07:46
K1rkbob2017, I don't remember having to do that for the nVidia proprietary driver.....but maybe in the absence of another option it loads nouveau anyway lo07:46
PowerKillerhm, cpu is now at 3%07:46
PowerKillerIT CAME BACK AGAIN07:46
PowerKillerOH NO07:46
bob2017k1rk:  what about a shell script to load at boot before X?07:47
Mr_CyclopsIf the nVidia graphics app is installed, check in the profile, you have an option not to use the nVidia and use the onboard intel chipset or likewise07:47
K1rkMr_Cyclops, unfortunately he can't boot into GUI to open the utility.07:48
Mr_Cyclopsoh07:48
bob2017and apparently disabling nouveau is a challenge as well07:48
Mr_Cyclopswell if no GUI is present, what difference does it make anyway which driver is loaded?07:48
bob2017nouveau does not wish to be disabled07:49
Mr_Cyclopsor is it that nouveau is loaded and thats why GUI doesnt work?07:49
bob2017mr_cyclops: because it keeps trying to start the wrong video card and freezing on fist boot after install of ubuntu07:49
PowerKillerecho 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is the workaround07:49
bob2017i can’t get into cli either07:49
PowerKillerI'll better make it a cronjob07:49
Mr_Cyclopsic07:49
bob2017wait!07:50
bob2017i have a new crash file!07:50
Mr_Cyclopshave you tried blacklisting in modprobe and using the nomodeset option in grub as well?07:50
bob2017it says the command line was: usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch    does this tell us anything?07:50
bob2017my_cyclops: all of that except nomodeset07:50
Mr_Cyclopstry the nodmodeset option, I remember it did work for me07:50
bob2017its still loading nouveau even though its blacklisted07:50
Mr_Cyclopsthough since my gui works, i simply disable from the nvidia application gui interface, its easy tht way07:51
bob2017k1rk (or my cyclops):  Is there a way to change the X command line that ubuntu is runnign at boot, to specify on the command line which graphics card to use?07:51
Mr_CyclopsXorg ?07:51
bob2017?07:52
zzarrbob2017, /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:53
bob2017zzarr: i don’t want to do it by editing the file.  i want to do it by changing the command line arguments07:53
zzarrbob2017, or use xrandr07:53
K1rkzzarr, I think xrandr would only work if he had a shell already, he can't get to TTY07:54
bob2017but, i can edit files on the disk from another OS, whcih is what i’m doing now07:54
Mr_Cyclopsthe only option I think is to get to a TTY without freeze is the nomodeset option in grub, try that07:54
bob2017ok here we go07:55
zzarrK1rk, my bad07:55
Afdlawhy doesn't xinput set-prop 9 272 2801298401927 do anything? 9 is my mouse and 272 is constant deceleration07:55
AfdlaAny value I try, I see no difference to mouse  sensitivity07:55
Afdlait is still too fast to control accurately07:56
Mr_CyclopsI tried this URL for myself sometime ago and it did work07:56
Mr_Cyclopshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver07:56
Mr_Cyclopsxinput works only once X is loaded07:56
Mr_Cyclopsotherwise its useless07:57
AfdlaI have no clue what X is07:59
Afdlathought disabling the mouse with xinput works07:59
hateballAfdla: X.org is what enables you to have a GUI and peripheral input07:59
Afdlathough*08:00
hateballSuch as a mouse or what have you08:00
Afdlaok thanks08:00
hateball!x08:00
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution08:00
Mr_Cyclopstry checking this file too --> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf08:00
Mr_Cyclopsyou can disable  your input devices before you get the X login prompt08:00
Mr_Cyclopsmridul@space:~$ cat /data/X-Files/Unsorted_Docs/__unsorted_dropbox/dropbox.3/Disable_Touchpad_on_X11_Load.txt08:01
Mr_Cyclops> Backup the existing/default conf file for event devices08:01
Mr_Cyclopssudo cp -p /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf.00008:01
Mr_Cyclops> Edit the file and  find the section for Touchpad or likewise device, and at the end of the section, for e.g the following...08:01
Mr_Cyclops# InputClass section for touchpad08:01
Mr_CyclopsSection "InputClass"08:01
Afdlaall the inputclass stuff are identical 5 times08:02
AfdlaI don't need to disable anything. Just lower mouse sensitivity.08:02
AfdlaDon't know if it matters I use XFCE08:02
Afdlaif I set mouse accel from gui settings to even 0.1 my mouse freezes08:03
Afdlasensitivity slider has no effect08:03
AfdlaI've had mouse sensitivity issues for years with ubuntu and rarely do I seem to be able to fix it08:04
AfdlaHmm acceleration 0,01 freezes 0,009 works08:06
Afdlabut has no effect on sensitivity08:06
cfhowlettAfdla, ask #xfce ... it's doable but I think it requires some command line work to get to fairly well hidden configurations08:06
bob2017with nomodeset, I don’t even get as far as i did before - never gets past the bios screen08:06
AfdlaOk08:08
ShellMasterhow can i upload to ubuntu using ssh?08:08
ShellMasteri am already in ssh08:09
cfhowlettShellMaster, upload what ??08:09
ShellMasteruploAD A FILE08:09
logan-lanehello08:09
ShellMastera java file08:09
cfhowlettShellMaster, do you have permission to upload to ubuntu?08:10
ShellMasteryes, i am logged in already08:10
cfhowlettwww.ubuntu.com?08:11
ShellMasterubuntu server08:12
ShellMasteri want to upload a file to ubuntu servers08:12
Ben64scp <file> username@ip:/path/08:12
ShellMasteri have an amazon server where i want to upload  a a file to08:12
fsexit08:14
ubuntu342I am lonely ShellMaster08:15
cfhowlettubuntu342, wrong channel.08:15
ShellMasternoone wants to help me out?08:15
cfhowlett!server | ShellMaster,08:15
ubottuShellMaster,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server08:15
ShellMasteri know what ubuntu is08:16
ubuntu342You're trying to upload to Ubuntu server using SSH??08:16
ShellMasteri have a ubuntu server on amazon web services. i am connected through ssh.08:16
cfhowlettread again:  ubuntuSERVER is in the other channel08:16
waterdropHi, I have a windows machine that I installed Ubuntu on (after partioning). So now the machine can dual boot. But I just tried backing up my hard disk to a solid state drive, and it did not work (the backup program said it was successful, but when I insert the solid state drive, it can't find the partition).08:17
PowerKillerCannot find shader definitions08:17
PowerKillera game says08:17
waterdropAny advice about what to do?08:17
zzarris there a simple way to remove all 0 byte files in a directory?08:17
zzarr(the file that are not 0 byte are important)08:17
Droi'm trying to access an encrypted folder from a fresh, but i get this ==> ecrypt-mount-private : command not found.. is there anything i have to install first?08:17
K1rkzzarr, Maybe something like "find . -type f -size 0 -exec rm {} \;08:17
K1rkzzarr, http://www.ducea.com/2008/02/12/linux-tips-find-all-files-of-a-particular-size/08:18
rwwjust use -delete instead of -exec rm {} \;08:18
rwwapart from that, identical to what i was about to say :)08:18
zzarrK1rk, thanks08:18
K1rkrww, hmm didn't know about the -delete flag thanks08:19
K1rkhaha08:19
rwwK1rk: I think it's a GNU find extension08:19
rwwnot 100% sure though08:19
PowerKillera game says08:19
K1rkzzarr, always be CAREFUL with commands like this.08:19
zzarrK1rk, I am08:20
hateballwaterdrop: No one knows what "the backup program" is, you will need to provide more detail08:20
hateballwaterdrop: Are you trying to clone an HDD to SSD?08:20
cfhowlettPowerKiller, same for you ^^^\08:20
PowerKillerCannot find shader definitions08:20
PowerKillerwhat?08:20
waterdrophateball:  Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. The backup program was the program on a CD disc that came with the SSD.08:21
bob2017k1rk: any more ideas? :(08:21
zzarrthanks to you rww too08:21
waterdrophateball: I really don't know anything about the backup program / how it works :(08:21
cfhowlettwaterdrop, a linux backup program?08:21
hateballwaterdrop: I suggest you use Clonezilla, but this is not really Ubuntu related per se08:21
hateball!clone | waterdrop08:21
ubottuwaterdrop: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can use the !software package "apt-clone" - See also !automate08:21
rwwzzarr: oh, another thing i forgot. run it without the -delete or -exec part, it'll print out everything it would delete08:21
hateballugh08:21
waterdropcfhowlett: No, a windows one. I cloned the HDD to the SSD on windows08:21
rwwzzarr: nice failsafe :)08:21
K1rkbob2017, it occurs to me since you're just running ubuntu for 1 application... is it possible to run in a VM instead of on your hardware?08:21
waterdrophateball: Okay, thanks for the suggestion.08:22
zzarrrww, can I make it accept automatically?08:22
zzarrrww, I will run it in a automatic script08:22
hateballwaterdrop: See this about -icds, as you are likely cloning to a smaller drive http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/doc/02_Restore_disk_image/advanced/09-advanced-param.php08:22
bob2017k1rk: fraid not, the purpose of the application is to make efficient use of the GPU.08:23
rwwzzarr: if you run "find . -type f -size 0" it will print every zero-byte file in the current directory. if you run "find . -type f -size 0 -remove" it will delete them without confirmation08:23
waterdrophateball: thanks!08:23
K1rkzzarr, ooh automatic blind deletion of files, sounds very "careful" to me. hehe08:23
rwwzzarr: do the first command manually to make sure it does what you want. put the second command in your script if the first one is correct08:23
zzarrthanks rww08:23
bob2017k1rk: is there someone who would look at the logs?08:23
K1rkbob2017, what is the application?08:23
zzarrrww, I will08:23
bob2017k1rk: it’s called fbcunn08:24
bob2017k1rk: its the kind of thing only 1000 people care about, but those 1000 care a lot08:24
zzarrK1rk, rww, don't worry, it's just some cache files that will be removed if they are 0byte08:24
K1rkbob2017, this uses CUDA?08:25
bob2017k1rk: yes08:25
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PowerKillerCannot find shader definitions says a game, what to do?!08:25
K1rkbob2017, CUDA has like nothing to do with GUI, is this even a GUI program?08:25
K1rkbob2017, I am somewhat familiar with CUDA from bitcoin mining applications I messed with08:26
zzarrPowerKiller, what game?08:26
PowerKillerSauerbraten08:26
bob2017k1rk: not in the slightest.  However, in order to use it, one has to have installed a package that depends on gui integration because it was poorly designed08:26
bob2017it’s a library for torch/lua08:26
K1rkbob2017, in the INSTALL.md (https://github.com/facebook/fbcunn/blob/master/INSTALL.md) it has info for how to install on a virtual machine \ EC2 instance08:26
K1rkYou telling me people are installing a full blown GUI on their EC2 VM for this?08:27
bob2017k1rk: yeah, that doesn’t work08:27
K1rkI somehow doubt that08:27
bob2017turs tme on that :p08:27
bob2017trust me on that08:27
K1rkI'd suggest you try with the mini.iso and no GUI bob201708:27
K1rkWhatever dependencies you need should be installable from apt, a desktop environment is not required for CUDA08:27
Droi'm trying to access an encrypted folder from a fresh installation, but i get this ==> ecrypt-mount-private : command not found.. is there anything i have to install first?08:27
K1rkbob2017, running a GUI will detract from your performance anyway08:28
Klas5hey08:28
Klas5so, Im running ubunto on VMWare player08:28
zzarrPowerKiller, are you trying to build the game from sources?08:29
PowerKillerI already did08:29
PowerKillerit suceeded08:29
Klas5It appears abunch of my files are "hidden"08:29
zzarrnice08:29
Klas5I work alot in the terminal, and inside a folder I can see 19 files08:29
Klas5if I open it up in the 'explorer' I only see 1408:30
zzarrKlas5, do the hidden files begin with a "."?08:30
Klas5zzarr, not in the terminal08:30
Klas5just "h1.png" etc08:30
zzarrKlas5, [Ctrl] + H in Nautilus08:30
zzarrstrange08:31
Klas5zzarr, I suppose Nautilus is the 'explorer' of ubuntu08:31
Klas5like, every file in the folder "flashed" but the missing files didnt show up08:31
Klas5I can open the files fine from the terminal as well08:32
zzarrKlas5, yes, but as you potentially could have another one installed I wrote it explicit08:32
geirhayou are sure it's the same dir? e.g. if you type in terminal:  ls<space> (but not enter), then drag the folder from nautilus to the terminal window, ls still lists 19 files?08:35
zzarrrww, I get this message "find: unknown predicate `-remove'"08:38
geirhathere is no -remove operator for find08:38
dreamaddictwhich ubuntu desktop version should I get?  is 15.10 fine, or is 14.04.3 safer/meaningfully more reliable?08:38
Klas5geirha, yes, same folder08:39
Klas5I "solved" it by doing mv h1.png ../ on every "missing file"08:39
Klas5they showed up one level higher08:39
Klas5but still wieerd08:39
geirhaKlas5: Did you do the test I suggested?08:40
Lopewhat version of Asterisk is available on ubuntu 15?08:40
Ben64dreamaddict: at this point, probably either. both will upgrade to 16.04, 15.10 you just have to upgrade before July, 14.04 is good until April 201908:40
geirhait sounds like the directory you were in inside the terminal had been moved08:40
zzarrKlas5, ohh, in that case the file was in the wrong directory08:40
geirhathe drag and drop test would've detected it08:40
dreamaddictok cool, thank you Ben6408:40
Klas5but drag and drop test just dropped mi into the same folder08:41
Klas5see nothing in nautilus, see all files in terminal08:41
OerHeks!info asterisk08:41
ubottuasterisk (source: asterisk): Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:13.1.0~dfsg-1.1ubuntu3 (wily), package size 1353 kB, installed size 5126 kB08:41
geirhaKlas5: It would only list the files inside, it wouldn't change directory08:41
zzarrKlas5, if you run "pwd" in terminal and press [Ctrl] + L in Nautilus, are the paths the same?08:42
bob2017k1rk is there are least a list somewhere of what i’ll have to install if i start with mini.iso to get it into normal-ubuntu form?08:42
geirhaanyway, a new directory had probably taken the place of the old, and in bash, you were still holding a handle on the old directory08:42
bob2017i mean while i’m using fbcunn i’d like to be able to do work08:42
bob2017k1rk: what if i just delete X from the existing install?  what would happen then?  is that sensible?08:44
Klas5zzarr, yes, same paths08:44
odtim getting frequent resolution changes after upgrading to kernel 4.4. the tv just blinks and goes back to 1920x1080p60. nothing in the dmesg or X log that would even log that it happened08:44
Klas5geirha, would I still be able to open/read the files?08:44
zzarrKlas5, okey08:44
geirhaKlas5: Yes08:45
geirhaKlas5: ls -li . "$PWD"   # does this output the same inode number for both?08:45
OerHeksodt, how did you upgrade the kernel to 4.4 ????08:46
geirhaKlas5: err, sorry, ls -di, not -li08:46
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OerHeksodt, on wily 15.10 ?08:48
Schwarzbaer_Hi. For a few days now, compiz is running at 100% CPU usage. Restarting it doesn't help that. Any idea why, or, more importantly, how to stop that?08:48
Guest13280test08:48
bob2017schwarzbaer: unplug it08:49
bob2017schwarzbaer:  have you tried updog?08:49
Klas5geirha,08:49
Klas5I ran ls -di inside the folder08:49
Klas5got output "1443930 ."08:49
Schwarzbaer_bob2017, that tells me nothing, and I'm not really in the mood for bad puns.08:49
Klas5is that what you meant?08:49
geirhaKlas5: no, ls -di . "$PWD"08:49
OerHeksbob2017, stop that nonsence please08:50
bob2017schwarzbaer: i don’t know what you’re talking about08:50
OerHeks!ot | bob201708:50
ubottubob2017: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:50
geirhaKlas5: If the directory you are in has moved, those will show different inode numbers08:55
me-1hi...plz provide me link to download ubuntu for ppc08:56
zzarrI have bluez 5.36 and got this problem08:56
zzarr * Starting bluetooth                                                                                                             [ OK ]08:56
zzarr * bluetooth is not running08:56
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads08:56
zzarrthe command I ran "service bluetooth start && service bluetooth status"08:56
Klas5geirha, that gave me output: "1443930 . 1443930 /home/me/DummyAnalysis/cleaner"08:59
Klas5so same?08:59
geirhaKlas5: Ok, same dir. Have you used cd since?08:59
insidiousis channel used for zorin support as well since its ubuntu based?09:00
OerHeksinsidious, no.09:00
Klas5since I noticed this wierd behaviour? yes09:00
insidiousOerHeks: do they have a channel?09:00
insidiouselsewhere.09:00
OerHeksinsidious, i suppose so,  look at their page09:01
geirhaKlas5: Then the test is no longer possible, but it was likely the case09:04
cfhowlettinsidious, look in your documentation.  they should make it very easy for you to get support.  if not, perhaps you might rethink your choice of OS09:06
insidiousok thanks09:06
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Droi'm trying to access an encrypted folder from a fresh installation, but i get this ==> ecrypt-mount-private : command not found.. is there anything i have to install first?09:13
TricksHi guys, I've written a daemon process which doesn't appear to pick up the settings for open files in limits.conf09:13
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TricksWhen the service is started at boot it uses default 1024. If I login kill the service and service start from my session then it picks up the limit. Does anyody know what I'm doing wrong?09:14
TricksAh, I need to set it here: /etc/init/cups.conf09:15
chotaz`wHuh, how come whenever I try to remove a package that comes bundled within the initial install(firefox in this case) ubuntu tries to remove ubuntu-mate-core ?09:18
hateballchotaz`w: that's how apt works09:19
eloycotoHi, I've just setup a new apt-mirror for our internal servers. Each time that I want to install a package we have different versions of packages and can't be installed. I did dist-upgrade and nothing to update. Any idea why?09:19
chotaz`whateball, what if I want to completely remove firefox(purging the package and it's associated files) without touching my DE?09:19
jophishHi all09:20
jophishI'm running xubuntu 14.04. What's the cleanest way of upgrading to the latest vanilla ubuntu?09:20
hateballchotaz`w: ubuntu-mate-core is a meta-package so removing it is safe per se. However that makes things less awesome if you use apt-get autoremove09:21
wahyuhi guys09:21
wahyuhi guys09:22
hateballchotaz`w: read this for an explanation https://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/the-metapackage-problem-and-apt-get-autoremove/09:22
OerHeksjophish, 14.04 > 14.10 ( eol) > 15.04 > 15.10 .. i would do a fresh install09:23
OerHeksor wait for 16.0409:23
hateballWaiting for 16.04 is likely the least painful option09:23
LocalHost_80hi guys09:24
chotaz`whateball, that was enlightening, thanks!09:25
LocalHost_80i have Ubuntu 15.10 installed but it stucks and hangs and crashes many times (64Bit)?09:25
chotaz`whateball, from what I understand I could just purge firefox, then reinstall the ubuntu-mate-core metapackage?09:25
OerHeksLocalHost_80, check your ram for bad bits, boot & hold shift and perform memtest8609:25
hateballchotaz`w: reinstalling the meta-package will pull in its dependencies again09:26
chotaz`whateball, it's ok since I jsut want a completely fresh install of firefox09:26
LocalHost_80thanks a lot , and are there any themes for 15.10?09:26
t1I have noticed for days that gigantic amounts of data are transferred to daisy. ubuntu. com. Has anybody else noticed this?09:27
LocalHost_80i tried to install Zukitwo but it failed ...09:27
OerHeksLocalHost_80, tons of them, install synaptic, and search for 'theme'09:27
LocalHost_80OerHeks, Thanks a lot :)09:28
wahyuhow to change the admin password09:28
t1wahyu: Are you in sudoers ?09:29
wahyuyes I am in sudo09:30
t1wahyu: Or even better: You know the current pw for root ?09:31
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wahyuyes I know the root password09:32
OerHekshateball, interesting ( old) article about metapackages, is there an equilevant for "aptitude keep-all" for apt-get??09:32
t1wahyu: Then the easiest way is to become root (su) and the rest can be read (man passwd)09:33
hateballOerHeks: apt-mark09:34
OerHeksthank you, i'll investigate this.09:34
hateballOerHeks: if you apt-mark everything as manual I think it should be untouched by metapackages09:34
wahyuok I'll try ..how the next step?09:35
OerHeksYeah, this might help a lot of users running into this unwanted deletions.09:35
t1wahyu:You're in a terminal ?09:36
wahyuyes I 'm in terminal09:38
t1wahyu: typed su ?09:38
hateball!sudo09:39
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo09:39
wahyuoke..the next step?09:39
OerHeksno need for su," sudo passwd " will change it easily09:40
t1I have noticed for days that gigantic amounts of data are transferred to daisy. ubuntu. com. Has anybody else noticed this???09:41
t1wahyu doesn't want to change his own password09:42
t1BTW09:42
VolkodavHi! I have this problem I was fighting with for a few weeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14494895/. That happens on installing updates09:42
jophishOerHeks: hateball. Ah, there's an upgrade path straight between lts versions, thanks. Would this work upgrading to the 16.04 beta?09:43
OerHeksjophish, yes, use the -d = development option09:43
hateballjophish: Yes, if you are feeling adventurous ^09:43
jophishI think I'll wait09:43
jophishpart of me always likes upgrading to beta versions, but it's always regretful when I do it :)09:43
OerHeksjophish, unless this is your only machine, you could help a lot.09:44
jophishIt's the machine I use for work, so perhaps it's best to play things safe09:45
t1I have noticed for days that gigantic amounts of data are transferred to daisy. ubuntu. com. Has anybody else noticed this??? Noone at all ????09:56
zzarrwhat do daisy do?09:57
rory-t1: How have you noticed this?09:57
rory-t1: What do you mean by "gigantic amounts", and what is the nature of the data?09:58
rory-t1: That server is used for user crash report submissions09:58
rory-t1: I googled "daisy.ubuntu.com" and clicked the first result to find that information btw09:59
t1What Daisy does - I don't know all about it. Let's ask Ubuntu/Canonical, I thought ...09:59
rory-t1: If Google isn't working for you, we can help you with that09:59
t1One of the things it does is receiving crash reports AFAIK09:59
rory-t1: sudo dpkg --remove whoopsie09:59
t1I'm monotoring my network traffic from time to time09:59
rory-t1: that will remove crash handler10:00
rory-t1: you can also firewall daisy.ubuntu.com10:00
t1gigantic means that there was a transfer of about 400 MB this morning, same yesterday :-o10:00
t1Only the hard way ? No handle of traffic possible ?10:01
t1Reagarding the content of /var/crash there should be another way than purge whoopsie ?10:02
zzarrt1, I think cgroups should be able to handle that10:02
OerHekst1, check your logs in /var/log/  and your $HOME, are they growing?10:04
t1OerHeks: Not more than expected ...10:06
LocalHost_80hi, what is the best theme for 15.10 in synaptic package manager?10:06
xiaoge什么情况10:10
zzarrxiaoge, please ask questions in English10:10
llldino!ch10:11
ubottuThe Swiss !LoCo team can be found in #ubuntu-ch (please speak English there) - Deutschsprachiger Ubuntu Support in #ubuntu-de - Aide Ubuntu en français dans #ubuntu-fr - Supporto Ubuntu in Italiano in #ubuntu-it10:11
xiaogeok10:11
llldinoOops10:11
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DJones!cn | xiaoge10:12
ubottuxiaoge: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw10:12
icedwaterHow do you see what goes on when you apt-get install a package?10:14
hateballicedwater: You mean what the package actually does?10:14
abochuchu is an abo bastard10:14
icedwaterNo, hateball, I was looking at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34762975/ and I wanted to see what was happening when that particular package was installed.10:15
icedwaterLike, what goes on behind the "Setting up package_name (version)..." line10:15
llldinoapt-get install --dry-run package?10:16
icedwaterllldino: that's not specific enough, I tried it.10:17
icedwaterI'm sure it runs some script defined in the .deb that manages the install procedure...10:18
llldinoDid you try apt-get with the -v option?10:18
xiaogewhat is this place10:18
llldinoErrr..there is no v option10:18
icedwaterDoesn't seem to exist for me, llldino :P10:18
icedwaterI thought about it as I was typing my first response to hateball, and tried it too.10:19
hateballicedwater: you can apt-get download package10:20
hateballicedwater: then open it in whatever you handle compressed files with, inspect the contents10:20
hateballsome packages have pre and post scripts, like the kernel for instance10:20
icedwaterYep, I'm looking at the package in /var/cache/apt/archive for now10:21
icedwaterLooks like I need to poke about in control.tar.gz for the interesting stuff.10:22
geirhaapt-get source package-name   then look through the debian dir within10:26
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gobalhow to create wifi hotspot in ubuntu10:36
lotuspsychjewhat could cause 2 laptops not recognize a samsung ML-1665 printer by default via usb and 14.04.3, on the desktop printer shows by default10:36
Mathisenlotuspsychje, http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/10:38
lotuspsychjeMathisen: tnx, but the weird thing is on the trusty desktop it recognizes out of the box..trying to understand why10:39
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icedwatergeirha: thanks, that looks quite different from what was in the deb before. I suppose that's the stuff on the SVN that actually produces the package.10:45
geirhaicedwater: yes. You can recreate the package by running "debuild" in the directory containing debian/10:46
icedwatergeirha: oooh, thanks.10:47
geirhaoh and you might want to include -uc -us iirc. Otherwise it will warn you about being unable to sign the package10:47
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geirhaoh and run   sudo apt-get build-dep package-name  to first install all the packages required to build it. (they are listed in debian/control)10:49
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stunts513I can't seem to get my nvme raid to show up, i think i have traced it down to the ahci driver lacking support and wonder if anyone has had a simlar issue or knows of any patches.10:51
stunts513fakeraid*10:51
foormeahi! i'm wondering, when i change my system-wide keymap via dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration,    it changes some settings in /etc/default/keyboard, but only related to xkb. where are the consolee keyboard settings placed?10:52
foormeai've had a look in /etc/initramfs-tools and couldn't see much there10:53
sub1nehi10:54
sub1neanybody used to lubuntu?10:54
IdleOnefoormea: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard seems to suggest that /etc/default/keyboard applies that changes both in console and xkb10:58
Eri111sub1ne just give ur question anyone who knows will give u an idea10:58
foormeaman 5 keyboard     suggests otherwise10:59
bluefiveRadeon HD8250 -- is this fully supported by Ubuntu?10:59
foormeaman 5 keyboard        suggests that KMAP should be used in /etc/default/keyboard for console keymap -- but it's not changed after a dpkgreconfigure keyboard-settings10:59
foormeaoohohhh11:00
foormea"Usually this variable will be unset but if you don't want to use a XKB layout on the console"11:00
foormeaso i guess by default the xbd is transferred back to the console keymap, unless you specify a KMAP value?11:00
foormeaBUT, that still desn't explain how the initram gets the keymap. the keymap in my unencrypt screen at boot is changed too11:01
Eri111bluefive it depends on the model of ur computer/radeon display... on the later versions of ubuntu the always update the missing drivers11:01
bluefiveI read that someone was using a Radeon video card with Ubuntu, but the most recent versions of Ubuntu no longer supported it11:03
bluefiveso in order to use his computer he must use an old version of Ubuntu..11:03
IdleOnebluefive: or get a supported graphics card11:04
IdleOnenot everything can be supported forever11:04
foormeaIdleOne: might be in /etc/kbd :)11:04
IdleOnefoormea: possibly.11:04
bluefiveIdleOne, But that's a really low-down-dirty tactic..11:05
bluefiveNow the user has to use an old version of Ubuntu, getting older all the time.11:05
IdleOnebluefive: every OS out there at some point stops supporting older hardware11:05
sudomarizeif i've plugged in my rasp pi to my laptop via LAN, how can i find the devices IP?11:05
tinyhippo/111:06
bluefiveIdleOne, Really?11:07
diffisHello! Can anyone give me a hint about a command line program that would generate a movie or an animation from a data file? I know gnuplot can create some animations, but I'm looking for something simpler like 'prog --delay 5 datafile outputfile'.11:08
Eri111bluefive: yes idle1 is right... please dont tell me ur pc is very old... it is like windows 8 can not work on old xp compitable pcies, sorry for mentioning windows in linux world but i wanna make it clear11:10
Eri111bluefive can u check out the sit "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD" see if it helps11:12
bluefiveIs the proprietary driver superior?11:16
VolkodavHi! I have this problem I was fighting with for a few weeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14494895/. That happens on installing updates11:20
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lotuspsychjeVolkodav: ubuntu version?11:21
Volkodav15.0411:21
Volkodav15.10 sorry11:21
lotuspsychjeVolkodav: did you add ppa's of any kind?11:21
Volkodavonly opera and googletalk11:21
lotuspsychjeVolkodav: better purge all ppa's from system and sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade11:22
Volkodavdid that11:22
lotuspsychjeVolkodav: did you install any other packages manually?11:23
Volkodavyou mean compiling?11:23
Volkodavor bins?11:23
lotuspsychjeVolkodav: yeah anything11:24
lotuspsychje!info libopencv-video2.4v511:24
ubottulibopencv-video2.4v5 (source: opencv): computer vision Video analysis library. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.9+dfsg-1ubuntu6 (wily), package size 125 kB, installed size 375 kB11:24
lotuspsychjeVolkodav: did you install this package officially from repos?11:24
rory-Volkodav: can you try to do: sudo apt-get clean11:24
rory-Volkodav: and sudo rm -fv /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb (careful)11:24
Volkodavlotuspsychje: The only package not from repos is tor11:25
Volkodavall others are removed11:25
lotuspsychjeVolkodav: try what rory suggest also11:26
Volkodavok11:26
Volkodavdid that - see what happens11:27
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^warlock^hello11:30
^warlock^hello11:30
^warlock^hello11:30
^warlock^hello11:30
Volkodavrory: same error11:30
^warlock^same error11:31
^warlock^yea11:31
rory^warlock^: Anything I can help with?11:31
^warlock^i am having difficutlties in using irc11:32
^warlock^i am a new user11:32
rory^warlock^: /join #freenode11:32
qqqqqBefore Christmas I reinstalled  Ubuntu and then my PC broke down and I sent it in to have it fixed. However the System is LVM encypted. I just put the disk into another PC and I don't remember neither my user password nor my root password.11:32
rory^warlock^: People there will help you with IRC and network queries11:32
rory^warlock^: This is the Ubuntu Linux support channel11:32
qqqqqHowever, I remember the password to decrypt the LVM.11:33
Volkodavrory: did cache clean and  removed debs - same thing11:33
qqqqqIs there a way via live stick to change the password of root on the installed system?11:33
^warlock^who are you going to vote this time man11:33
ikonia^warlock^: stop please11:34
ikonia^warlock^: this channel is not for that11:34
roryqqqqq: Yes it's possible. You mount your Ubuntu partition, use the "chroot" command to open a shell in that environment, and then use the "passwd" command as normal11:35
roryqqqqq: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/11:35
roryqqqqq: FYI that link is the first result on Google for your question (word-for-word) Is there a way via live stick to change the password of root on the installed system?11:35
qqqqqrory: The problem is the encrypted LVM11:36
roryqqqqq: sudo apt-get install lvm2 cryptsetup11:37
roryqqqqq: sudo modprobe dm-crypt11:37
BluesKajHowdy folks11:37
roryqqqqq: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 crypt1 (replace sda1 by the actual name of the partition)11:37
roryqqqqq: enter your passphrase when prompted11:37
roryqqqqq: sudo vgscan --mknodes to get the name of the volume group11:38
roryqqqqq: sudo mount /dev/volume_name/root /mnt11:38
qqqqqrory: thx so much11:39
qqqqqI will try it out11:39
Volkodavrory:  is it possible to remove just this video pkg or that will bring a dependency hell?11:42
czwolfHello :) Trying command: mono-service -l:Corrade.exe.lock Corrade.exe Should run a scripted agent for 3D worlds to login to. No effect. Could you help?11:42
roryVolkodav: The problem isn't the package being installed, it's some index corruption or something11:42
roryVolkodav: Are you using NFS?11:42
VolkodavNFS?11:42
roryThen no11:43
Volkodavshould I remove tor as well ?11:44
Volkodavit's a bin file from their sitr11:44
sqdqsdsqhow to make ubuntu usb stick bootable ? (from the usb)12:11
rorysqdqsdsq: It ought to already be bootable. How did you create it?12:11
sqdqsdsqrory: ah no, i mean how to make it persistant12:11
sqdqsdsqits already bootable12:11
IdleOne!usb12:12
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent12:12
IdleOnesqdqsdsq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent12:12
rorysqdqsdsq: you can't make it persistant after the fact. You can re-create it with persistance12:12
rorysqdqsdsq: you can't make it persistant while booted from the live USB12:12
rorysqdqsdsq: you CAN back up your local changes you've made while on the live USB, by coping the entire /home directory to another drive12:12
sqdqsdsqrory:  ok thanks12:13
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czwolfHi. :) Having a problem to start mono application. May not be a problem in it and if so, I need to find a way how to detect a culprit. Anyone using mono apps/services?12:32
akikczwolf: i'm using keepass2 which is a mono app12:33
akikczwolf: /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/keepass2/KeePass.exe12:33
akiki meant .net app12:34
czwolfakik Thank you for response and I am using it too, plus some server. My problem is related to a service:  I downloaded the package, I have running mono and ubuntu, running another mono apps. My Mono is:  Mono JIT compiler version 4.2.1 (Stable 4.2.1.102/6dd2d0d My system is:  Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS Trying to run Corrade by comm12:34
czwolf<czwolf> and: mono-service -l:Corrade.exe.lock Corrade.exe As a response I am getting silence.12:34
czwolfakik Do you think my command is ok and all I needed was to unpack, make executable, run by this?12:36
tijarnimy ubuntu is really slow, what could be going on?12:37
AndChat572649LCDR vs xfce which de is better.12:40
AndChat572649*Lxde12:40
k1l_try both and decide yourself12:41
lotuspsychje!details | tijarni12:41
ubottutijarni: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)12:41
OerHeksThere is no single best, indeed12:41
roryAndChat572649: "which is better" - if there was an objective answer, then the other one would not exist12:42
OerHekslxde is lightweight, xfce much nicer.12:42
roryAndChat572649: Which one is best, is the one that you like12:42
roryAndChat572649: In my opinion, unless you have a reason to use LXDE specifically, you should use Xubuntu if you want a lightweight desktop system. But other opinions are available12:42
AndChat572649Hmm12:43
tijarniit is a newly installed version -- 14.0412:44
tijarnibrowser loads slowly12:44
lotuspsychjetijarni: system specs? ram? what part is 'slow'?12:44
tijarniram 3.5gb12:44
AndChat572649I am from xp sp2 switching to Linux completely.12:44
tijarniprocessor: AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 212:44
tijarni64 bit12:45
lotuspsychjetijarni: can you check wich driver is active sudo lshw -C video?12:45
tijarniHP 200012:45
lotuspsychje!paste | tijarni12:45
ubottutijarni: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:45
tijarnilotuspsychje, http://pastie.org/1068956012:50
lotuspsychjetijarni: ok, your using radeon driver, looks good to me12:50
lotuspsychjetijarni: maybe check your syslog whats going on or try chromium-browser if that makes it quicker for you?12:51
akikczwolf: sorry i only have tested with keepass2, not with mono-service12:54
UBUTEROgoo morning12:58
zzarrUBUTERO, is it morning in the World of Goo?12:59
TeaganUhm dear linux users has anybody any idea about how i can find my savegames in lubuntu??13:01
bazhangsave games for what Teagan13:02
UBUTEROhello, for all13:02
Teaganhi there13:02
Teaganendless sky for instance13:03
bazhangTeagan, wine or native/ steam what13:03
Teagannative13:03
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bazhangTeagan, checked for the hidden folders yet?13:03
Teaganoh im terribly sorry im pretty new to linux i shall check it thank you very much13:04
zzarrTeagan, I would guess ether ~/.<gamename> or in ~/.local/share/gamename13:04
pepijndevosI wrote a C program that writes 8bit audio that I pipe into aplay, but there is a large delay due to buffering. How do I reduce that?13:04
bazhangTeagan, nuatilus the file manager has an option to show hidden folders13:04
bazhangand nautilus13:05
Teaganthank you very much bazhang and zzarr i'll check it out right away13:05
zzarrTeagan, no problem13:05
fwaokdawhen i attempt to install updates it says i need to install from unauthenticated resources... I click ok and then nothing happens. How do I resolve this?13:06
UBUTEROhello diego13:06
Diego_Hello Bruno.13:07
qqqqqPlease someone help. I mounted an encrypted LVM to /volume of the live usb stick. But I can not chroot into it via sudo chroot /volume13:08
czwolfakik Is OK and thank you :) Well I need to know if I am trying to run that service well or if the problem is in that mono program.13:08
TeaganBazhang, Zzarr you guys are life savers, worked like a charm, i found the saves thank you so much13:12
bazhangok13:12
zzarrTeagan, glad I could help :-)13:12
GalereBonjour il y a des français ou vais-je devoir tout expliquer en Anglais ?13:15
OerHeksGalere, this channel is english only, else join #ubuntu-fr13:16
nglpx1hi, flash don't work in chromium, help please!13:16
OerHeksnglpx1, does flashplugin work on youtube ?? here it does.13:17
GalereNp, so i'm a beginer in Ubuntu and i'm trying to setup my network. The problem is i can't do it and when i "ifconfig " it display only lo wich is my local network.13:18
nglpx1about:plugins on chromium doesn'appear any flash plugin13:18
GalereDoes it means that my material isnt plug in or activate?13:18
GalereSorry for bad English13:18
OerHeksnglpx1, did you install restricted extras, for flash/java/webplugins and codecs/fonts and tools?13:19
fwaokdawhen viewing text output from tail command is there an ability to show only as much as will fit on screen and then allow me to hit enter to go further down the document?13:20
nglpx1OerHeks, I've installed adobe-flashplugin, pepperflashplugin but nothing13:20
nglpx1It did work before I removed pepper flash13:20
nglpx1I removed it cause high network load13:21
OerHeksjust install pepperflash then? ( it downloads chrome, and extracts the plugin)13:21
nglpx1then I tried to install adboe flash but nothing13:21
BluesKajchrome should work without any flash plugin , it has it's own flash version13:22
OerHeks!flash13:22
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash13:22
nglpx1I reinstalled pepperflash but nothing (chromium, not chrome!)13:22
anonymous_ the best13:22
BluesKajnglpx1, try chrome13:22
anonymous_check ubuntu gnome Mate13:22
OerHeksoh, the page says you need adobe-flash plugin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash13:22
triacchrome/chromium is using pepper-flash and firefox is using flash plugin (right?)13:23
OerHekstriac, no, see my last line/url13:24
nglpx1chrome tell me that shockwave flash crashed :(13:24
BluesKajtriac, no chromium and chrome use different versions of flash...only chrome has an embedded version not avilable to other browsers13:24
nglpx1pepper flash is installed13:24
nglpx1maybe I have some dirty directory with wrong flash plugins?13:25
OerHeksnglpx1, and did you do step 2 to activate the pepper thingy?13:26
nglpx1OerHeks, you mean update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree?13:27
OerHeksoh, wrong again, the wiki page is deleted, remove pepperflash > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Instructions%20for%20the%20%5B%5Bpepperflashplugin-nonfree13:27
OerHeksthe page says you need adobe-flash plugin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash13:27
nglpx1I tried both, pepper and adobe13:28
iorianglpx1,    did you  enable Canonical Partner  ?13:29
nglpx1I use the terminal, not the package manager13:29
ioria!info adobe-flashplugin13:30
ubottuPackage adobe-flashplugin does not exist in wily13:30
ioriaadobe-flashplugin is not present in the normal repos ...13:30
iorianglpx1,    you need to  enable Canonical Partner13:30
iorianglpx1,    SystemSetting -> Soft & Update -> Other Software13:31
iorianglpx1,    then you can install adobe-flashplugin13:31
iorianglpx1,   better to remove pepper first13:32
nglpx1ops, I enabled without removing pepper13:32
iorianglpx1,   you can do it, also editing sources.list13:33
nglpx1I anabled Canonical Partner, now it's updating the cache13:33
nglpx1but, I repeat, before removing pepper this morning flash did work13:34
iorianglpx1,   on Chromium ?13:34
nglpx1yes13:35
OerHeksso why did you remove pepperflash? if it works, don't break it.13:35
iorianglpx1,    OerHeks ^^13:35
OerHeksthis makes no sense at all13:35
nglpx1I removed pepperflash cause strange high network load from ppperflash plugin13:36
iorianglpx1,   ah13:36
ioriapossible13:36
iorianglpx1,   temporary or persistent ?13:37
nglpx1temporary13:37
nglpx1I esamined with netstat13:37
iorianglpx1,   well, there should be a reason why   is deprecated , now13:38
nglpx1and the result was that pepper was making strange external connections13:38
OerHeksnglpx1, maybe best to start all over again, remove chromium and all plugins, and reinstall13:38
nglpx1uhm.. but why chrome don't work too? hasn't chrome his own flash plugin?13:39
ioriayep13:40
ioriapepper13:40
ioriacheck its version, should be 2013:41
nglpx1yes, is 2013:42
ioriaand not working ?13:42
jjordaanHi all. I know this is probably not the right channel to be asking, but I can't seem to find any channel for mdadm, so here goes. I have an issue where the previous admin set up a file server with 4 x 2Tb drives all in mdadm raid5 INCLUDING the OS drive :( The issue is that the OS drive now failed, but all 3 the other drives are fine. I tried googleing for long to try find how to get the raid back up or at least get the data off the13:43
jjordaan other 3 drives, but didn't have any luck. I'm currently on the server with ubuntu live. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)13:43
nglpx1chrome shows a different problem, in the chrome:plugin page the flash plugin is present but it crashes when I load a page with flash13:43
iorianglpx1,   cat /etc/issue13:43
nglpx1Ubuntu 15.1013:43
OerHeksnglpx1, 'load a page with flash'.. try youtube first. other pages might be compromised, payload and such.13:44
nglpx1I tried the adobe flash about page13:44
Jack_rip_vimthose days I can't upgrade successfully. and  I don't know why .13:45
nglpx1youtube works13:45
ioriayoutube uses other stuff...13:46
nglpx1yes, so I tried the about flash adobe page13:46
iorianglpx1,  try vimeo, or other sites13:47
nglpx1ioria, there isn't any flash plugin in the chrome:plugin page!13:48
iorianglpx1,  now i don't recall exactly the location,  but go in Advanced and look for plugins13:50
nglpx1the location in the filesystem or the location in the browser?13:50
iorianglpx1,  in the browser13:51
nglpx1in the browser is the "chrome:plugin" page13:52
iorianglpx1,  what you have there ?13:52
nglpx1I have some plugin installed, but no flash plugin13:53
iorianglpx1,  can you take a screenschot ?13:53
nglpx1why? I am sure there is no flash plugin there13:54
nglpx1chrome://plugins/13:54
nglpx1Chromium PDF Viewer and Widevine Content Decryption Module plugins13:56
nglpx1uff.. I try to reboot13:57
OerHekschrome <> chromium ....13:57
OerHeksi think you mixed up now.13:58
asuraCould anyone help me with an error I ran into while updating kernel to 4.4?13:58
nglpx1the plugin page is chrome://plugins/ both in chromium and chrome13:58
nglpx1I try to reboot13:59
OerHeksasura, kernel 4.4 is just out, file a bugreport please.14:00
OerHeks!bug14:00
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:00
asuraOerHeks, not sure if it's a bug ot a personal thing though14:01
asuraThat's why I came here first.14:01
nglpx1no success :(14:03
OerHeksasura, that is the risk of using the newest untested kernel14:03
OerHeks!mainline14:04
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds14:04
Delta706can anyone recommend an application which records mouse and keyboard usage along with timings, and can replay them later?14:04
nglpx1just a moment....14:05
agile_prghi all, I try to login to ubuntu and it just comes back to the login screen14:05
OerHeksasura, note: The mainline kernels builds are produced for debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk.14:05
agile_prgcan anyone tell me how to troubleshoot this?14:06
mtilhanthere is some problem at my ubuntu 14.04, after it goes to screensaver then lock screen and monitors goes to energy saving mode. at least it was like that. now if i went away like 15 minutes and when I came back, my right monitor completely closed of and left monitor is black screen with one underscore flashing at top left. it doesnt response to anything unless i try a few times quickly alt+ctrl+f7 then it goes to login screen. any i14:07
nglpx1after rebooting flash works on chromium but not in chrome14:07
nglpx1and there are those strange connections14:09
nglpx1visible in netstat14:09
zambai'm trying to upgrade from precise to trusty.. doing 'do-release-upgrade' runs for a while and then outputs: "Could not calculate the upgrade"14:11
zamba"An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."14:11
zzarrI have a thing to say: If you're a programmer install apt-file (sudo apt install apt-file && sudo apt-file update)14:12
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zzarrone can search for files and see what package they belong to14:14
Auto112Ciao14:16
Auto112!LIst14:16
ubottuAuto112: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:16
* pbx wonders why it is always "ciao" with the warez guys14:16
Auto112Ciao14:17
Auto112!list14:17
ubottuAuto112: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:17
Picipbx: theres a popular xchat script for that sort of thing and its documentation is all in italian.14:18
zzarr!list14:20
ubottuzzarr: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:20
BrazenBradenI see the latest kernel is 4.4 but mine is 4.2 and apt update && upgrade doesnt install it. When does it become available through apt?14:23
someguyfromhellI need some help, ubuntu minimal installation just hangs at purple screen. I read that I'm supposed to wait, but nothing is happening after 40 mins.14:24
zzarrBrazenBraden, when Xenial is released14:24
BrazenBradenzzarr, that would be 16.04?14:25
qqqqqAre there encrypted LVM experts?14:25
zzarrBrazenBraden, yes, 16.04, according to OMG Ubuntu  April 2114:25
BrazenBradenzzarr, ok. would i be looking for trouble trying to update to kernel 4.4 manually?14:26
zzarrBrazenBraden, before I answer may I ask why and how you use the installation?14:26
zzarrBrazenBraden, is it a production machine or just a private installation?14:27
ioanmis there a ubuntu dev channel?14:28
BrazenBradenzzarr, i cant get my elantech multi-touch touchpad to work. been googling for days. one guy recommended upgrading the kernel to 4.4 so figured i might try that because i have tried everything else i could find. its my private laptop.14:28
zzarrioanm, #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-app-devel14:28
BrazenBradennot being able to scroll with double touch swipe is frustrating and severly slows me down14:29
ioanmdoes #ubuntu-app-devel refer to 3rd party apps?14:29
zzarrBrazenBraden, okey, you could run sudo update-manager -d (switching to Xenial developer release)14:30
zzarrioanm, yes14:30
BrazenBradenzzarr, if things go bad, would i be able to recover from it? If I do the switch to that, it would be a whole new OS, meaning I couldnt just switch to an older kernel version in grub if I need to14:31
zzarryou could switch to and older kernel, but I think that 4.4 would be fine14:32
BrazenBradenzzarr, already had major issues just getting 15.10 to work14:32
zzarrBrazenBraden, 4.4 is a stable LTS kernel14:32
ioanmzzarr, i'm sorry but 4.1 is longterm14:32
ioanm4.4 is just stable14:32
ioanmor mainline14:32
BrazenBradenzzarr, and i cant just download the debs and dpkg -i them in 15.10?14:32
ioanm(today i visited kernel.org)14:32
zzarrhttp://plus.url.google.com/url?sa=j&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbuff.ly%2F1JM3P5S&uct=1431938499&usg=MI-WDwgN2-Bh5smFy6KSga2HgrM.14:33
BrazenBradenyea, 4.1.15 is LT14:33
zzarrsry wrong link, http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-now-based-on-linux-kernel-4-4-lts-498901.shtml?utm_content=buffer8f8d1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer14:33
ren0v0hi, i'm getting a 404 on trying to install wine14:33
ren0v0Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main libgnutls26 i386 2.12.23-12ubuntu2.3    404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]14:33
ren0v0how can i fix that?14:33
mtilhan there is some problem at my ubuntu 14.04, after it goes to screensaver then lock screen and monitors goes to energy saving mode. at least it was like that. now if i went away like 15 minutes and when I came back, my right monitor completely closed of and left monitor is black screen with one underscore flashing at top left. it doesnt response to anything unless i try a few times quickly alt+ctrl+f7 then it goes to login screen. any 14:34
ioanmzzarr, sorry14:34
BrazenBradenmy bad.14:34
zzarrioanm, no problem14:34
BrazenBradenwas just going with what kernel.org said14:34
ioanmzzarr, say is ubuntu standard kernel diff14:34
BrazenBradenanyway, regardless, will 15.10 break if i dpkg -i the 4.4 deb files?14:34
ioanmzzarr, if I get 4.4 and compile it, will it break anything?14:35
zzarrioanm, I don't know14:35
zzarrioanm, I guess that the worst thing that can happen is that your computer don't start and you have to boot from a live image make a chroot and remove the kernel14:36
BrazenBradenputting dodgy kernel upgrades aside, had anyone here with problems getting an elantech mousepad drivers properly installed so that multi-touch works?14:37
ioanmzzarr, no i meant some www pages say that the ubuntu kernel is modified to work better with the distro14:37
zzarrioanm, no, I'm not thinking, you could select the old kernel at boot up14:38
ioanmzzarr, and if I install a custom linux i lose the modif14:38
zzarrioanm, I think Canonical modify the kernel but I don't know how14:38
OerHeksioanm, read about it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile14:41
gamangreetings.14:41
valentinofxis anyone here working from home ?14:43
gordonjcpvalentinofx: I do sometimes, why?14:43
valentinofxwhat do you do14:43
gordonjcpvalentinofx: I work in radio comms14:44
gordonjcpI make the things that make walkie-talkies work, work14:44
OerHeksvalentinofx, how is this related to ubuntu support?14:44
ioanmOerHeks, no thx, i changed my mind14:45
gordonjcpvalentinofx: and in answer to what I suspect your next question is going to be, yes Ubuntu talks to the VPN just fine, and LibreOffice works pretty well with the MS Word and Excel documents we use14:45
valentinofxok is anyone working with ubuntu getting paid from home14:45
gordonjcpvalentinofx: a huge number of Canonical's staff work from home14:46
valentinofxthanks14:47
OerHeksbisu fix your connection please14:48
valentinofxso can i use my "old" desktop to make money some how with running ubuntu server14:48
HackerIIgordonjcp:  cool, im a retired ham radio repairman14:49
OerHeksvalentinofx, sure, you are free to do so.14:49
lotuspsychje!ops | bisu pingpong14:51
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gordonjcpHackerII: 73 de MM0YEQ14:55
gamanwho you hacking gordon14:55
BrazenBradenis it guaranteed that I will have synaptics running if I have a touchpad?14:55
lotuspsychjeGamah:no hacking topics on this network please14:55
gamangordon started it. but ok14:56
gamanhacking typically refers to the verb. I think to refer to criminal hacking you have to be more specific14:56
gamanthe generic troubleshooting hacking away at things14:56
lotuspsychjegaman: and its still offtopic...14:57
gordonjcplotuspsychje: and misusing the word "hacking" to mean computer crime is pretty offensive14:57
Pici!hacking14:57
ubottuA hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer  -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy14:57
zzarrI'm a hacker14:59
shibbolethi915.enable_hd_vgaarb=1 <--- the patch that this option enables is not part of the mainline ubuntu kernels?15:00
BrazenBradeni have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed but running synclient says "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?" and there is no mention of synaptics in Xorg.log.15:01
dloginovHi, I would like to register my IRC account and use Pidgin... how can I do it?15:08
lotuspsychje!register | dloginov15:08
ubottudloginov: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode15:08
lotuspsychje!info pidgin | dloginov sudo apt-get install pidgin15:09
ubottudloginov sudo apt-get install pidgin: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.10.11-0ubuntu4 (wily), package size 544 kB, installed size 2439 kB15:09
dloginovok thanks I got it :)15:09
nikhil_360HI guys, the sound from my video player is barely audible.. The sound is great when I play songs (mp3) but for videos it is very very low. I installed ubuntu restricted extras but still no use. Any help pls?15:10
lotuspsychjenikhil_360: on firefox?15:11
nikhil_360I use ubuntu 14.04.15:11
nikhil_360NO lotuspsychje.. on my ubuntu15:11
lotuspsychjenikhil_360: ok wich video player15:12
nikhil_360movie player (the default one) as well as I downloaded banshee, but no avail15:12
lotuspsychjenikhil_360: did you try on vlc?15:12
nikhil_360no..15:12
gordonjcpnikhil_360: if you open up the audio control panel, do you see a separate volume control for it when it's playing?15:12
nikhil_360I didn't check that.. 1 min please15:13
simonHi, Since I've installed nvidia proprietary drivers I can't boot in anything except recovery mode. I stuck when I need to type password to decrypt my data - the screen just get frozen.15:13
simonI've added nomodeset, but it didn't help15:14
lotuspsychjesimon: ubuntu version, card chipset and driver version please?15:14
Ray^I've got problem with ubuntu minimal installation. 12.04 and 14.04 just hang at purple screen after proxy screen. I haven't tried 15.04 or 15.10.15:15
lotuspsychjeRay^: any reason you dont install regulare ubuntu desktop?15:15
nikhil_360No gordonjcp15:16
Ray^lotuspsychje, I just want to start clean and install just packages I need.15:16
nikhil_360there is no separate volume control15:16
simonlotuspsychje, xubuntu 15.10, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M. And idk how to check my card chipset15:16
lotuspsychjeRay^: minimal is a bit expert, you might encouter unwanted issues, maybe strip down regular ubuntu?15:17
Ray^lotuspsychje, forget it, it finally started after 2 hours and 30 minutes of waiting.15:17
lotuspsychjesimon: gtx 970m is your chipset :p15:18
nikhil_360@gordonjcp No.. There is no separate volume control..15:18
lotuspsychjesimon: did you try other nvidia drivers like the 340 or 346?15:18
simonlotuspsychje, lol ok. I've installed nvidia-35515:18
lotuspsychjesimon: try a lower version mate15:18
simonlotuspsychje, ok, I'm trying 34015:19
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lotuspsychjesimon: also install nvidia-prime15:21
pepijndevosI'm going crazy over aplay. I pipe sound into it, but it just keeps buffering, so the sound from the speaker is several second behind my program.15:21
pepijndevosHow can I stop aplay from buffering so much?15:22
simonlotuspsychje, I've installed 340 and it didn't help. Still got the same problem. about nvidia-prime, is it related to nvidia optimus? because my PC doesn't have it (I have ASUS G752VT)15:23
lotuspsychjesimon: gtx 970m is an optimuc card, so youl need nvidia-prime15:24
lotuspsychje*optimus15:25
lotuspsychjepepijndevos: maybe a tail -f /var/log/syslog might spit out some errors while you mess with aplay?15:25
simonlotuspsychje, ok, apparently I have it already. So it doesn't solve the problem15:26
lotuspsychjesimon: you can use nvidia-settings to enable performance mode15:26
lotuspsychjesimon: wich ubuntu version are you on mate?15:26
simonlotuspsychje, 15.1015:26
lotuspsychjekk15:27
lotuspsychjesimon: when did this start to happen?15:27
simonlotuspsychje, After I've installed nvidia driver15:27
lotuspsychjesimon: ok lets try something else then, sudo apt-get purge nvidia and reboot15:28
mtilhan there is some problem at my ubuntu 14.04, after it goes to screensaver then lock screen and monitors goes to energy saving mode. at least it was like that. now if i went away like 15 minutes and when I came back, my right monitor completely closed of and left monitor is black screen with one underscore flashing at top left. it doesnt response to anything unless i try a few times quickly alt+ctrl+f7 then it goes to login screen. any 15:31
simonlotuspsychje, doesn't really help15:31
lotuspsychjesimon: thats strange, try the recoverymode/fix broken packages from grub15:32
nite2696morning15:33
nite2696anyone awake15:33
lotuspsychjenite2696: 1800 users are15:33
simonlotuspsychje, I think when I've installed one of this drivers it disabled a modprobe related to X server15:34
lotuspsychjenite2696: what can we do for you?15:34
daumfor iptables i'm looking for one that will have bit of thru put, so I've been told to not do state tracking.  does it do that by default?  I was thinking of basically just blocking a few ports to all but a few ips via something like : http://pastebin.com/fqu9USZR15:34
lotuspsychjesimon: did you do a blacklist?15:34
nite2696do for me.. nothing..  just saying HI15:34
lotuspsychjedaum: maybe the #netfilter guys can help with that?15:34
daumah will ask there!15:34
nite2696i see, is ee15:34
daumlotuspsychje, thanks for the heads up didn't know that channel existed=)15:35
lotuspsychjedaum: see also ##networking, enjoy!15:35
simonlotuspsychje, hmm, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is empty15:35
lotuspsychjesimon: ok good, try the recoverymode from grub15:36
simonlotuspsychje, I'm in it now15:36
nite2696the recovery will allow most to be re-enabled backforth'15:36
lotuspsychjesimon: then do the 'fix broken packages' option15:36
drdozerHi -- I've just installed a new gfx card. I've got my old GeForce 9800 GT and my new GeForce GTX titan X15:36
drdozerThey use different NVIDIA binary drivers15:37
nite2696make sure to run an update after you 'fix broken pkgs'15:37
drdozerI'm having trouble getting both drivers installed - installing drivers for one seems to uninstall drivers for the other15:37
lotuspsychje!who | nite269615:37
ubottunite2696: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:37
lotuspsychjedrdozer: any reason you using 2 cards togheter?15:37
drdozerlotuspsychje, the 9800 GT is my old card - it works fine. The titan x is for machine learning rather than rendering15:38
nite2696most cards are proprietarily uncompatible...  they don't play nice together15:38
nite2696but if you have them playing nice in your box..  more power to you15:38
nikhil_360Hi guys, can anyone tell me why the volume is low when I play videos on my ubuntu 14.04. I'm using default movie player. Sound is fine when playing MP3 using Rhythbox .. issues only with videos.15:39
lotuspsychjenikhil_360: try vlc...15:39
GFXDudeyeah, sounds like missing codecs15:39
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masutry amarok15:39
simonlotuspsychje, doesn't help15:40
simonlotuspsychje, I think I'll try to reinstall the OS15:40
lotuspsychjesimon: well if recoverymode doenst help...15:41
lotuspsychjesimon: maybe try an LTS this time?15:41
simonlotuspsychje, yes, this was my intention too15:41
lotuspsychjesimon: ok mate, good luck15:41
lotuspsychjesimon: make sure your connected to internet + updates during setup15:42
ken_hey where is apache2-doc located?15:42
GFXDudeI'm looking to host a .deb repo for somewhere between 5 to 25 packages. There will be atleast 5 required packages, a few important and the rest optional. Most of the documentation I find seems to be overkill to achieve this functionality; they seem to think I'd like to host every package the system needs. Has anyone done a basic repo like this? Any suggestions as to an appropriate structure?15:42
bob2017hey - what’s a good way to completely disable X from being able to start?  I can’t boot into the system, but I can access the disks15:42
lotuspsychjeken_: try whereis apache2-doc15:42
ken_oh nice thanks lotuspsychje15:42
lotuspsychje!repo | GFXDude15:43
ubottuGFXDude: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.15:43
ken_lotuspsychje, unfortunately whereis apache2-doc gives no directories... but it is installed...15:43
lotuspsychjebob2017: install ubuntu server?15:43
drdozerso is there any trick to getting two different nvidia binary drivers to take two different cards in one system?15:43
drdozeror should I be asking in another forum?15:44
bob2017lotuspsychje: no, i want to disable X on an existing installation15:44
dbuggerHi fellas. Can someone tell me what "wget -qO-" means?15:45
lotuspsychjebob2017: whats your purpose with this exactly..sounds a bit weird to disable GUI from a GUI ubuntu right?15:45
lotuspsychjedbugger: can man wget show anything usefull?15:45
bob2017lotuspsychje: not really… this is one step in what’s been a very long troubleshooting process, and I’d prefer not to relate the whole history15:45
dbuggerlotuspsychje, the part I do not get is the final "-". If it was just "-qO" it would be alright15:46
lotuspsychjedbugger: maybe the #wget gys might know?15:48
dbuggerthnaks15:48
lotuspsychjeken_: check the #httpd guys, they might know15:49
zambai'm trying to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04, but getting errors when trying to calculate the changes.. i've looked into /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and i see mentions of Broken packages related to mariadb and mysql.. how can i fix these?15:51
lotuspsychjezamba: added ppa's?15:51
nite2696run the fix pkg and update15:51
dionysus69I need a software for screen capture + audio recording? any suggestions for easy setup?15:51
lotuspsychje!info kazam | dionysus6915:52
ubottudionysus69: kazam (source: kazam): screencast and screenshot application created with design in mind. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-2 (wily), package size 732 kB, installed size 1693 kB15:52
zambalotuspsychje: yeah, i added ppas for mariadb.. but i've removed that again.. but i need mariadb installed15:52
lotuspsychjezamba: first clean out all pa's from system before you upgrade15:52
lotuspsychjeppa15:53
zambalotuspsychje: yeah, i've removed them from the sources.list(.d/*)15:53
dionysus69thanks lotuspsychje15:53
lotuspsychjedionysus69: welcome :p15:53
zambalotuspsychje: but still: "Could not calculate the upgrade" and "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."15:53
zambalotuspsychje: the apt.log is filled with these: Broken mariadb-server-5.5:amd64 Conflicts on mysql-server-core-5.5 [ amd64 ] < none -> 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.14.04.2 > ( database )15:54
lotuspsychjezamba: maybe try apt-get clean or autoremove or something15:54
lotuspsychjezamba: or cleanout with bleachbit15:54
zambalotuspsychje: neither did anything15:54
bazhangppa-purge the ppa15:55
zambabazhang: dunno what that means15:55
bazhang!ppa-purge15:55
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html15:55
bazhangsee above15:55
zambabazhang: will that remove mariadb?15:56
bazhangis it a ppa15:56
zambabazhang: i really don't know15:57
bazhangwhat is the ubuntu version there zamba15:58
BluesKajmariadb is in the repos15:58
zambaBluesKaj: but not the version i'm looking for, i think15:58
bazhangand whats the version of mariadb you have15:59
BluesKajzamba, did you use appa to install mariadb?15:59
zambahttp://pastebin.com/1aZEwRUL15:59
zambathis doesn't look too promising15:59
BluesKaj!mariadb15:59
bazhangppa dont just install themselves15:59
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BluesKaj!info mariadb16:00
ubottuPackage mariadb does not exist in wily16:00
BluesKajodd16:00
bcchttp://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2869-1/16:00
bccCVE links at bottom are broken :(16:00
bazhangmariadb-client16:00
BluesKaj!mariadb-server16:01
bob2017hey… still asking, what’s a good way to disable X completely so it doesn’t even try ot start at boot?  I am accessing the disks from another machine, and can’t enter the OS even in CLI to edit them16:02
lotuspsychjebcc: report this in #ubuntu-ops please16:02
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bccack16:02
EriC^^bob2017: you can add text to the kernel line in grub16:02
EriC^^after quiet splash16:02
bob2017eric: tried that, didn’t work.16:02
EriC^^did you update-grub ?16:02
bob2017eric: I’m not using grub16:03
BluesKajbob2017, how are you trying to access the remote machine ?16:04
bob2017blueskaj: i’m booted on that machine into a different OS16:04
smellsLikeGoatSpis it possible to install a ubuntu version running on 2.x kernel?16:05
rillehhttp://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.1p216:05
OerHekssmellsLikeGoatSp, no, even the oldest supported precise 12.04 got kernel 3.216:06
OerHeks!info linux-image precise16:06
ubottulinux-image (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.0.97.113 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB16:06
asuraOerHeks, you were right earlier :P16:07
BluesKajbob2017, sorry I don't get it16:07
rillehWhen can we see the patched version of OpenSSH in the official repos?16:08
smellsLikeGoatSpDerHeks: cannot I use it without support?16:08
lucidguyshould one do a full apt-get upgrade prior to do-release-upgrade?16:08
bob2017blueskaj: don’t worry about getting it :p i’m only trying to solve the very narrow problem of disabling X.16:08
simonlotuspsychje, now I've got "ACPI PCC probe failed on Ubuntu installation" on installation :(16:08
simonlotuspsychje, just "ACPI PCC probe failed"16:09
ubuntu660Ok guys Im having trouble getting wifi on my CentOS 7 any advise ?? Thanks16:11
BluesKajbob2017, maybe a clearer explanation of how you booted into the remote machine on a different OS , would give us a clue16:12
bob2017blueskaj: there is no remote machine.16:12
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ubuntu660Ok guys Im having trouble getting wifi on my CentOS 7 any advise ?? Thanks16:12
bob2017blueskaj: my question is how to disable X completely so it won’t attempt to load at boot, other than through a kernel command.  such as by modifying the startup sequence by editing a startup file, or deleting X itself.16:13
zzxcubuntu660: /j centos ? They might be have a better idea.16:13
daumhm the networking on one of my machines doesn't seem to want to finish properly, for example the /etc/resolv.conf isn't getting set.  I'm using a config by another ubuntu machine on the same network and it works fine.  Does the networking service debug somewhere?16:14
aaa801Trying to install 15.10 on a older pc setup boots to the screen with the keyboard icon at the bottom, then goes to a black screen with no output, suggestions?16:14
BluesKajbob2017, what about the VT/TTY , login and stopx16:14
bob2017can anyone other than blueskaj help me?  my question is how to disable X completely, where i can access the startup disk from another machine, but I can’t boot into the OS to make changes.16:15
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akikbob2017: disable the login manager16:15
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bob2017akik: how?16:15
BluesKajbob2017, ok sorry to have bothered you16:16
ChibaPetbob2017: Why keep the packages installed?16:16
akikbob2017: it depends on the version of your ubuntu but either lightdm or sddm16:16
bob2017chibapet: i can’t get into the OS to uninstall them16:16
taholmes160Good Morning everyone -- I need some help figuring out how to turn on and off apache depending on the needs at the time -- at boottime if possible16:16
bob2017akik: its lightdm, but how do i disable it when i can’t get into the OS?16:16
ChibaPetif you have access to the startup disk, you have access to chroot inside of it16:16
bob2017chibapet: no, i’m booted into another OS on the same machine.  i have access to the disks, but i’m not in linux.16:17
ChibaPetWhat other OS can't chroot? If it's Windows I'd suspect you can't access the partitions in any event.16:17
ChibaPetOh, never mind. I can think of examples.16:18
ChibaPetWhich Ubuntu version?16:18
BluesKajhe probly has extfsd installed16:18
bob2017chiba: 15.something16:18
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ChibaPetAh, systemd. I'll have to defer to others.16:18
wawrekI would like to know if it is safe to make a system upgrade to ubuntu 16.04. "update-manager -d" says that ubuntu 16.04 is available...16:18
bob2017chibapet: its whatever is off the latest ubuntu livecd, from two days ago16:18
ChibaPetYeah, I don't know. I'd guess "edit the unit config" but that would be handwaving on my part.16:19
BluesKajwawrek, -d means development release16:19
akikbob2017: if you chroot you can use systemctl disable to disable the login manager. i think it would be "systemctl disable lightdm.service"16:19
bob2017akik:  i can’t chroot16:19
ChibaPetbob2017: Oh, um. I think the target can be graphical or merely multiuser, and that's a symlink somewhere.16:19
bob2017chibapet: sounds right, can you be more specific?16:20
ChibaPetI'd chase down that idea if it were me.16:20
ChibaPetbob2017: I'd have to Google. Let's Google together.16:20
wawrekBluesKaj: I know - a dev release may be workable though..16:20
akikbob2017: oh well sorry i didn't follow you from the start16:20
bob2017chibapet: ok…. let’s do it at the asme time…. go!16:20
BluesKajwawrek, 16.04 is not recommended for production machines16:20
wawrekthanks16:21
BluesKajif you're a home user and feel adventurous then update and upgrade your 15.10 packages first , then upgrade -d16:22
BluesKajwawrek,^16:22
ChibaPetbob2017: Look at /etc/systemd/system/default.target maybe16:22
ChibaPetI don't have a box with systemd handy to confirm.16:22
ChibaPethttp://www.dynacont.net/documentation/linux/Useful_SystemD_commands/ suggests something along the lines of # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target16:23
ChibaPetNote that my personal experience with systemd has shown that symlink issues can result in non-booting systems. (I was trying to chase down a backlight bug at the time.)16:24
ChibaPetThen again, you're booted from another OS, so fixing that wouldn't be a problem.16:24
ChibaPetAnyway, time to commute. Good luck.16:25
daumthis is weird, so my machine can get to other machines on my same network, but it can't "see" the outside world, i can't ping an outside ip....any ideas what would cause that?  i'dthink it'd be the gateway is incorrect or something but that doens't seem to be it16:25
bob2017chibapet: wow i don’t know who came up with this systemd thing but… well can i just delete things from that directory to make them not launch?  like display manager?  etc?16:26
ChibaPetbob2017: You're lucky I had to finish something before leaving. No, that'd probably be awful breakage. Just change your default.target.16:27
bob2017chibapet right now default.target.wants is a directory with a ureadahead symlink and that’s it16:27
ChibaPetIf whatever you're using to access can't make a symlink in the target filesystem, as a stopgap I'd imagine coping the file in would suffice.16:27
ChibaPetPastebin that? bpaste.net please?16:27
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bob2017chibapet: i was thinking more like maybe delete the X executables16:28
bob2017chibapet: or change some startup script to comment out the line to launch X16:29
ChibaPetbob2017: Welcome to systemd. There is no startup script.16:29
ChibaPetAnyway, I really do have to go now, but there are people in here who know systemd far better than I do who will surely help.16:29
BluesKajno desktop , no X ?16:29
ChibaPetHave a good one!16:29
ubuntu_marianHey guys, ubuntu noob here! Can someone help me repair my grub safely? Have some important files in there16:30
nbusroneDoes anyone know a a cloning application beside clonezilla ?16:30
BluesKajnbusrone, read up on dd16:31
solvarrubuntu_marian: try boot repair16:31
krcevinaCan I somehow determine is my I/O blocking or non-blocking. Is there a flag that can be forwarded as the input parameter to system calls or some system setting or something?16:31
ubuntu_marian@solvarr: it's not working, it's stucked16:32
noeliaHello everyone16:32
ZumbidoBluesKaj dd = disk destroyer :p16:32
noeliaI'm having some problems when setting up a Gmail account on Evolution, I need some help, please.16:32
ubuntu_mariansolvar: tried sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt but i got "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3"16:33
BluesKajZumbido, I've used it successfully many times, but you have to be careful and make sure you set the command correctly ...dd= digital dump16:33
solvarris that /dev/sdXY ext4?16:34
ubuntu_marianyes, it is16:34
ubuntu_mariangot this from gparted: "e2label: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda316:34
ubuntu_marianCouldn't find valid filesystem superblock."16:34
ubuntu_mariansolvarr: can i provide some other info that can help you find the problem?16:36
TxS_PRIMECan anyone diagnose a possible disk space problem... I have allocated 15GB to an Ubuntu Server VM, and have 5TB left on the host drive, however when on the guest machine (the Ubuntu Server) it shoots me 0x202 errors when trying to use SteamCMD to install a dedicated game server only about 4GB in size. Here are my "df -h" results:  http://paste.ubun16:39
TxS_PRIMEtu.com/14497035/16:39
lotuspsychjeTxS_PRIME: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can be of any assitance?16:42
zambahow can i check from where a package was downloaded and installed?16:44
tony_hello16:46
bittin-hi16:46
tony_what is the latest news on ubuntu 15.10?16:47
k1lzamba: "apt-cache policy packagename"16:47
lotuspsychjezamba: maybe apt-cache policy yourpackage ?16:47
jackcomhow can i install ruby on ubuntu?16:47
k1ltony_: what you mean with "latest news on ubutnu 15.10"?16:47
bazhanghttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes tony_16:47
naccjackcom: apt-get install ruby?16:48
BABA111 irc.underunix.net16:48
jackcomnacc: ?16:48
zambaok, another question.. how do i downgrade a package?16:48
naccjackcom: that's how you install ruby on ubuntu, afaict16:48
tony_are there any newer apps that have come out since 15.0416:48
jackcomafaict? nacc ?16:49
nacczamba: i'd recommend you read `man apt-get`16:49
naccjackcom: afaict = as far as I can tell16:49
k1lzamba: can you give more informations? downgrading is not really meant to be done. so it depends on the issue16:49
jackcomyes, how? nacc16:49
zambak1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14497085/16:49
zambak1l: i have some version discrepancies with mariadb16:49
naccjackcom: the command you are looking for is 'apt-get', to install ruby, you'd run 'apt-get install ruby'16:50
zambak1l: which is preventing me from upgrading from 12.04 to 14.0416:50
zambak1l: i want to bring all mariadb-* versions down to 5.5.4416:50
k1lzamba: seems like the 23media repo is rubbish16:50
jackcomnacc: thanks16:50
zambak1l: http://mirror.23media.de/mariadb/repo/5.5/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mariadb-5.5/16:50
zambak1l: it has 5.5.47, but for some reason it's not installed16:50
k1lzamba: run a "apt-get update" first16:51
zambak1l: already have16:51
tgm4883zamba: you would need to specify the full version for each package, eg. 'apt-get install mariadb-server=1.2.3.4-0ubuntu3'16:51
zambatgm4883: tried that16:51
zambak1l: i found another mirror.. i'll try that16:51
tgm4883zamba: what happened?16:52
zambatgm4883: said that the package was already at the newest version16:52
jackcomgem install gruff16:52
jackcomFetching: rmagick-2.15.4.gem (100%)16:52
jackcomERROR:  While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES)16:52
jackcom    Permission denied - /var/lib/gems     <— nacc how can i do>16:52
jackcom?16:52
tgm4883zamba: then you didn't do it right. I'd want to see output including the command you ran16:53
zambak1l: yeah, you're right.. the repo was rubbish.. used another and i got all my versions up to 5.5.4716:53
naccjackcom: you probably need to be root, or be in an appropriate group to install new gems16:53
zambatgm4883: probably not.. but now i got it working :)16:53
jackcomoh thanks nacc16:53
Luke-Jrfyi ubuntu-12.04.5-server-amd64.iso is completely broken and cannot be installed16:54
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Luke-Jrit's missing some kernel module that it won't start the install without16:54
Guest75098hey16:54
k1lLuke-Jr: did you check the md5sum and what modules are you talking about? and why not use the 14.04 lts?16:55
Luke-Jrk1l: I was trying to reproduce the Travis build environment; I don't recall what the module name was, something about crypto16:55
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anonymoushi17:01
anonymousany spanish)))17:01
anonymous?17:01
teward!es | anonymous17:01
ubottuanonymous: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:01
tewardi think17:01
sudomarizeis it possible to get vim sytanx hightlighting through ssh?17:02
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Seminarianquestion guys17:02
Seminarianhowcome "grep -r 'test' *" doesn't search all directories and "grep -r 'test' ." does?17:02
naccSeminarian: hrm, they both work here; maybe it depends on your shell17:03
Seminariannacc: my shell is bash17:03
naccSeminarian: hrm, it works in bash for me too17:04
naccSeminarian: I've never experienced the behavior you're expressing though17:05
naccSeminarian: the '*' is shell expanded. I guess you could see if, e.g., `ls *` expands17:05
sudomarizegot it17:05
tewardSeminarian: * expands to every file in the list; why wouldn't you just say "Search here in this location" with . and use * which expands to a long string of everything in the folder?17:05
Seminarianteward: I thought I'm not using the * in a regular expression but just in a shell-wildcard manner17:07
Globalirchello all. know somebody how to set a simple reverse dns on my ubuntu 15.04 ?17:08
tewardSeminarian: Bash expands *17:08
tewardso if you type in this, it would expand * to be everything in the current working dir: grep -r 'test' *17:08
tewardso then you get grep -r 'test' a b c d e f g h folder1 evil darkfolder ...17:09
tewardSeminarian: whereas you want to grep recursively from the current directory and through all subdirs, you specify the 'base' for your search to start at, i.e. the current working directory, with: grep -r 'test' .17:09
Seminarianteward: yes but the -r seems to have lost it's meaning?17:09
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Seminarianteward: okay thanks man I think I understand the nuance17:10
Seminarianteward: it ignores the -r option with the *17:10
tewardSeminarian: I'm not sure 'recursive' from the -r works as intended when you mix in individual filenames, it's entirely possible it doesn't work - the EASIER way is to just specify the base directory ("This current directory I am in") with .17:10
tewardSeminarian: potentially, yes, but I'm not sure, as I learned that you should provide a full folder path to search in, or 'current directory' with .17:11
tewardSeminarian: potentially, yes, but I'm not sure, as I learned that you should provide a full folder path to search in, or 'current directory' with .17:11
tewardblah17:11
teward(saves such nuances and headaches of having to deal with Bash expansions)17:11
teward^ that's what i meant :P17:11
Seminarianteward: cool thanks mate17:12
ubuntu660Ok guys Im having trouble getting wifi on my CentOS 7 any advise ?? Thanks17:12
k1lubuntu660: obviously ask the centos guys. :/17:14
squidheadI'm trying to install apache2.2 on 14.04 using precise sources, but I keep getting the errors saying dependencies can't be met.  Any pointers on how to get past it?  I'm following instructions here: http://blog.thestateofme.com/2015/07/23/apache-2-2-on-ubuntu-14-04/17:19
tewardsquidhead: why do you need 2.2?17:20
tewardsquidhead: mixing and matching the repository sources is also a bad thing to do, so you're likely to break things17:20
squidheadteward: long story, but need to keep version of apache a 2.2 for app compatability.  Trying to upgrade an old 10.04 box on EC2 and ran into virtualization issues (need to convert to HVM)17:21
tewardsquidhead: and going from 10.04 to 12.04 wasn't an option?17:22
rom1504people still use 10.04 oO17:22
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tewardrom1504: they shouldn't it EOL'd.17:22
rom1504I guess they came to 2015 with a time travel machine17:22
squidheadteward: figured might as well jump to the latest LTS version17:23
tewardsquidhead: just use 12.04.  Mixing and matching repositories the way that page suggests is ***BAD***17:23
tewardand you WILL get all the mismatched dependency issues17:23
shibbolethAnyone come across a list of fglrx (amd gpu linux driver) module parameters?17:23
tewardsquidhead: and in 2017 when 12.04 EOLs, either replace or update your app17:23
squidheadteward: if it can do HVM, then it may be a good option17:24
tewardsquidhead: i believe it can but don't quote me.  If your application can't work on 2.4 or newer, though, the app should be rejected and updated, or replaced17:25
Joelhttp://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160114142733 - is this fix available for 14.04 yet?17:25
squidheadteward: ideally I wouldn't have to start over and can stay on 14.0417:25
squidheadteward: bigger project for another day17:26
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k1lJoel: there were some openssh updates just now17:27
Joelk1l, link to where I can read more by chance?17:27
k1lJoel: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0778.html  and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0777.html17:28
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2016-0778)17:28
ubottu** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2016-0777)17:28
squidheadteward: thanks for the advice17:28
Joelk1l, thanks17:28
k1lJoel: you can search on ubuntu.com/usn17:28
ajfI'm logging into my server and getting "Could not load list of meta packages: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory". nginx won't start. Yet there's only 5% memory in use. Any idea what's happening?17:28
ajfIt was running fine until I ran apt-get upgrade and rebooted17:28
squidheadteward: I'll check out 12.04 and see if it supports HVM.  would buy us time to upgrade the entire stack17:28
ajfNow it's just broken.17:28
squidheadteward: which is on the radar17:29
ajfOh. nginx was borked because I deleted its logfile folder17:30
squidheadteward: yep, found a 12.04 AMI which is HVM.... back to the drawing board. :)17:30
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ajfhey, what's the banner program that runs when you SSH in?17:31
ajfthe one that displays the advert for Launchpad, the memory usage, what needs upgrading, etc.17:32
OerHeksajf, motd i think17:34
OerHekshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/23246/how-do-i-edit-the-ssh-motd17:35
bramgntouch .hushlogin :-)17:36
ajfOerHeks: bramgn: I'm trying to find the actual program Ubuntu uses17:36
ajfso I can debug the error message17:36
ajfsetting my own static one is not what I'm after17:37
ajf(also, so I can maybe set up that banner for `mosh` :)17:37
bramgnajf: ah ok17:38
ajfoh, OerHeks, I thought that was a different link I'd previously clicked. that's helpful, thank you17:39
OerHeksThe output you see is created by landscape-sysinfo, remove it, and follow the guide to create your own17:39
ajfI think the problem is actually 90-updates-available17:40
ajfnope17:41
ajfaha, the problem is /etc/update-motd.d/91-release-upgrade17:42
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ajfhmm, okay17:44
ajfit's not updating the part of the MOTD containing an error message, because it's too recent17:44
ajfso I need to backdate the file17:44
ajfor just delete it perhaps17:44
scooterohello17:46
ajfaha, now it has no error :)17:46
scooteropretty quiet here17:47
lucidguyshould one do a full apt-get upgrade prior to do-release-upgrade.  Does it really matter?17:47
ajflucidguy: can hardly hurt17:48
k1llucidguy: run it, better you spot issues then instead of the release upgrade17:48
ajfyeah, it's not like upgrades take long17:49
et09i'm looking for an mp3 player that'll let me do filesystem browsing in a tree view.. is there one?17:56
simonHi, I want that when I encrypt my hard drive, to see the console (like recovery mode) instead of splash screen. Is this possible?18:02
smog123et09: i think vlc has a feature called 'display playlist tree' via 'Tools->Preferences'18:02
zykotick9simon: not entirely sure what you mean, but try remove "quiet splash" from your boot option, and you'll see the console output as you boot.18:03
simonzykotick9, thank you. It helped me very much!18:07
SeminarianGoodevening, in the manpages I see shorthand option and longhand options. The long-hand options sometimes consist out of a part lowercas and then '=' + uppercase-part. Is the uppercase part supposed to be filled in if you use the command?18:12
Seminariane.g. "-k, --key=KEYDEF"18:12
voozeDoes anyone know which the font the "default emojis" come from? http://imgur.com/A8Eqv0u (they are the ones in red, rest is nota-emoji. I want to remove the old ones and replace them with all noto(google emoji)18:13
pauli1hi fans!18:13
pauli1thx for the new 16.04 release!18:13
compdocnp18:14
voozepauli1, what???18:14
pauli1:-D18:14
pauli18-)18:14
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pauli1i am no spy18:14
k1l16.04 is not released yet.18:14
pauli116.04 is under my investigation18:14
bramgnSeminarian: no, you should substitute the uppercase part18:15
pauli1i heard about great plans to bake a lot of bread and throw it after all known and unknown enemies?18:15
ubuntu-matehello18:16
Seminarianbramgn: that's what i meant. Thanks!18:16
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pauli1hi?18:21
k1l!guidelines > pauli1 make sure to read them if you want to continue in using this channel18:21
ubottupauli1, please see my private message18:21
pauli1y?18:21
dunpealHi. Ubuntu seems very popular for developer workstations / laptops, so I'd expect Ubuntu Server to be a very popular choice for production servers. However, it is not. Why?18:22
pauli1i dunno! it wasn t me!18:22
lotuspsychjedunpeal: what do you mean its not?18:22
dunpeallotuspsychje: afaict, popular server choices include Debian and some RHEL distros, but I don't hear of so many people using Ubuntu Server in production.18:23
lotuspsychjedunpeal: wrongly informed18:23
lotuspsychje!server | dunpeal18:24
ubottudunpeal: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server18:24
dunpeali.e. Ubuntu is dominant on desktop / laptop for Linux users, but doesn't seem to be dominant for servers.18:24
k1ldunpeal: wikipedia runs on ubuntu servers. a lot of cloud business run on ubuntu servers. its really huge18:24
dunpealk1l: interesting. which cloud businesses run on Ubuntu?18:24
lotuspsychjedunpeal: check the article 10 reasons why ubuntu is killing it in the cloud18:25
k1ldunpeal: see http://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2016/01/12/10-reasons-why-ubuntu-is-killing-it-in-the-cloud/?utm_source=GooglePlus&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Forbes10Reasons#2715e4857a0b5bc2459919a2  for some stats18:25
mhmdhi all18:25
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dunpealklimt, lotuspsychje: thanks18:29
lotuspsychjedunpeal: think you mean k1l18:29
dunpealyes, k1l18:30
dunpealsorry18:30
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scooterohello there18:33
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voozeDoes anyone know which the font the "default emojis" come from? http://imgur.com/A8Eqv0u (they are the ones in red, rest is nota-emoji. I want to remove the old ones and replace them with all noto(google emoji)18:36
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cilualguem consegue instalar o cowpatty no ubuntu?18:38
cilutenho a suite wifite, mas não tem o cowpatty. Consome muito mais tempo assim....18:38
k1l!pt | cilu18:39
ubottucilu: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.18:39
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k1l!rootirc > Guest6583918:42
ubottuGuest65839, please see my private message18:42
Sansay_hey guys, is it possible to tar a folder, and while the tar happens delete all the files which are added into the tar? Or is this a bad idea?18:43
izoelllur18:44
goddardhow can i use policykit files with qt creator?18:45
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theperfectpunkwhat package provides zconf.h?19:01
dunpealk1l, lotuspsychje: I didn't know Ubuntu Server was this popular.19:02
dunpeal"Netflix, Uber, Lyft, Dropbox, Paypal, Snapchat, Pinterest, Reddit, and Instagram" is a pretty impressive list of deployments.19:03
dunpealI guess part of the reason is that most sysadmins I talk to are the older, more senior type who still prefer tools they've been using for years before.19:03
theperfectpunkanybody?19:03
dunpealFor them, RHEL and Debian are the only real options. Ubuntu wasn't really a rival to those back then.19:04
Picitheperfectpunk: its part of your linux-headers-$(version) pacakge19:04
k1ltheperfectpunk: more context, more win: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=zconf.h&searchon=contents19:04
theperfectpunkPici: thanx :)19:05
fibesdunpeal are those know companies using it currently?19:05
grafthey all, anyone know wher ei can get sources for utopic? us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists doesn't have it, i'm not sure why?19:06
dunpealfibes: yeah, it's in the article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2016/01/12/10-reasons-why-ubuntu-is-killing-it-in-the-cloud19:06
fibeshttps://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/01/13/att-selects-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-enterprise-applications/19:06
fibesthat is what im working on this year19:06
k1lgraft: utopic is end of life.19:06
fibesso add another to the list, att19:06
graftk1l: meaning there are no sources left? how am i supposed to upgrade?19:07
k1l!eol | upgrades19:07
ubottuupgrades: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:07
graftk1l: thanks much19:07
k1lgraft: even 15.04 is EOL end if this month. so if you dont like upgrading every 6 months better stay on LTS19:07
graftk1l: yeah, i'll get with it :)19:08
jbwivall, I've gotten myself in a position where /boot is full and apt is asking me to "apt-get install -f" after I tried purging some of the extra kernel packages19:08
jbwivbut apt-get install -f won't complete because boot it full and it's trying to install a new kernel there19:08
jbwivhow can I get around this?19:08
graftjbwiv: delete old images in boot by hand is probably fine19:09
graftjbwiv: i.e. if it's not the initrd for your current kernel, you probably don't need it19:10
k1ljbwiv: please put into a pastebin site a "ls -lsh /boot"19:10
jbwivok, I thought of that but didn't know if it'd screw with apt's head19:10
k1land show a "uname -a" and your result of "sudo apt-get install -f"19:10
graftjbwiv: should be fine, i've had to do the same several times for the same reason19:11
graftjbwiv: just make sure not to delete your current kernel's image19:11
jbwivk1l: thanks, but I think in know where you're going. the situation is this: I've cleaned up the older kernels, it put apt in state where it needs "apt-get install -f", but one of the things apt-get thinks it needs to do to fix things is  install a new kernel in /boot, which is full19:12
jbwivchicken and the egg19:12
jbwivi'll try manual deletions19:12
TJ-jbwiv: identify old kernel *versions* you no longer require, then do "sudo dpkg --remove linux-{image,headers}-<VERSION>" to remove the packages correctly19:13
ElTimoHow do I disable the touchpad while typing on 15.10? And as a followup, why the f*ck would you ever remove an option like that?19:18
bhalashElTimo: Try: syndaemon -i 1.0 -K -R -t19:19
bhalashElTimo: From: https://askubuntu.com/questions/530937/how-can-i-disable-touchpad-while-typing-in-ubuntu-14-0419:20
theperfectpunkis there a seperate repository for i386 in ubuntu server that needs to be enabled?19:20
theperfectpunki can't get the package libncurses5-dev:i38619:21
eelstreborheh, linksys.org has locked me out supposedly for DOS attack - i guess i need to run a rootkit scan since i'm not trying to do that (never have)19:22
bhalashl337 h4xx0r19:22
Sansay_Hey guys, if i scp a large folder, is it possible that one of the files being transferred can fail to transfer?19:22
Sansay_any idea what happens in this case?19:22
theperfectpunkanybody?19:24
k1ltheperfectpunk: no, no seperate 32bit repo.19:25
k1ltheperfectpunk: ubuntu is multiarch. so i bet the software you want to run cant handle it19:25
bhalashSansay_: I usually retry, or use a shell script to upload in chunks19:25
K1rktheperfectpunk, which ubuntu version are you running?19:26
bhalashSansay_: Could always checksum before and after if you are feeling careful19:26
gezhello. I am trying to run edubuntu 14.04 for the first time19:26
gezand i cannot seem to get a student account to be created..19:27
gezcan anyone help me?19:27
theperfectpunkUbuntu 14.0419:27
mariakaplovikhi19:27
theperfectpunkgez: what is going wrong?19:27
mariakaploviki hve seen some indians in whtsapp that they add many contacts at once in a group19:27
mariakaplovikhow do they do that19:27
mariakaploviki want to learn about things19:28
gezhi there. i have read that the option for the edu desktop should pop when logging in19:28
mariakaplovikwith experienced ppl19:28
k1lmariakaplovik: this it not the whatsapp help. please ask them19:28
gezso far only ubuntu loads19:28
Sansay_bhalash can i checksum a directory?19:28
gezand none of the edu apps will open in it19:28
Sansay_directory with many files19:28
mariakaplovikis there any room for that? k1l19:28
ulandSansay_: I think it is possible, could you provide some more details? Like any reporting, logs? How many times? Something strange happened? If it is important, you probably should check the data integrity anyway.19:28
k1lmariakaplovik: i dont think on freenode19:28
bhalashSansay_: for foo in *.* do; checksum <whatever the command is> $foo >> checksums.list; done19:29
mariakaplovikwhere then?19:29
mariakaplovikcan u tell me here or in pvt19:29
mariakaplovikplz?19:29
K1rktheperfectpunk, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libncurses5-dev19:29
theperfectpunkgez: could you open a terminal and type in lsb_release -l19:29
k1lmariakaplovik: see their website.19:29
ulands/times/files19:29
K1rktheperfectpunk, it appears it should be there and there should be an i386 version.19:29
theperfectpunklsb_release -a19:29
theperfectpunkyes19:29
mariakaplovik[k1l] no , its not allowed in whatsapp official bc its about mods19:29
K1rktheperfectpunk, you could always download the .deb manually and install it with dpkg -i... http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ncurses/libncurses5-dev_5.9+20140118-1ubuntu1_i386.deb19:29
theperfectpunkk1rk: yea i could do that19:30
k1l!alis | mariakaplovik this is not a topic for #ubuntu since its not anyway related to ubuntu support19:30
ubottumariakaplovik this is not a topic for #ubuntu since its not anyway related to ubuntu support: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu or /msg alis list http19:30
gezno lsb modules are available19:30
Sansay_im thinking it might be better for me to create a tarball, from my remote server. basically i have 1 servers server a and server b, i want to use server b to tar a folder on server a without using diskspace/resources on server a19:30
mariakaplovik*/msg alis help list*19:31
gezdescription ubuntu 14.04 .  when i log it says edubuntu on the login screen but nothing further seems t have happened19:31
eelstreborno rootkits found - no other websites complaining so it must've been a false positive19:32
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TJ-theperfectpunk: does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" show i386 enabled?19:33
mariakaplovikmy english is awful19:34
Sansay_does anyone know if i can partition a filesystem drive while the system is booted?19:36
theperfectpunkgez: it will look like regular ubuntu, just the repo and packages will differ19:37
bhalashSansay_: Yeah, but it's a pretty metal thing to do and nobody sane would try19:37
TJ-Sansay_: under some circumstances, yes. Not if you're going to alter a partition that is currently in use (by a mounted file-system, or LVM, dm_raid, dm_crypt, etc.)19:37
k1lSansay_: dont change partitions that are mounted.19:37
jedixTJ-: I've decided that the usb bluetooth dongle is broken19:37
jedixTJ-: it works sometimes, but not for long19:37
theperfectpunkTJ-: no output19:37
jedixand only in one usb port19:37
TJ-jedix: really? did btusb try to init it?19:37
theperfectpunkshows nothing19:37
Sansay_ah okay19:38
jedixTJ-: yeah, sometimes it works!19:38
jedixonly sometimes19:38
bhalashSansay_: You could unmount and change partitons that the OS isn't using.19:38
theperfectpunkgez: what are you looking for?19:38
jedixI've ordered a new one for 10$, different type.  I hope it works better19:38
TJ-theperfectpunk: ok, you need to add the i386 arch to be able to install the 32-bit packages: "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update" to get the 32-bit package lists; then you can "apt-get install <package>:i386"19:38
TJ-jedix: that's an annoying bug to pin-point!19:39
jedixTJ-: it's frustrating because the ps3 controller ocnnects then the usb dongle disappears and the controller stops19:39
theperfectpunkTJ-: thanx19:39
TJ-jedix: I hope the new device doesn't use a chipset that breaks BT in other ways!19:39
jedixI watched -n1 hcitool dev, and saw it drop off..19:39
TJ-jedix: I was quite impressed you have a USB Bluetooth class device; was thinking that's just what I need :)19:40
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gezi am looking for a way to make this edubuntu install work ... it is all there but there is a problem somewhere..  i am a school teachr and was told it was easy. i am esperienced in ubuntu19:42
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oswinwhat happens with the installation?19:43
oswinhell by the way everyone19:43
oswinhello19:43
bhalash\o19:44
shlanthi all. I have a problem with high disk io when cron.daily is run on ubuntu. Any idea which of these might be causing that? it's not logrotate or mlocate19:44
shlantapport  aptitude      dpkg       man-db   ntp     popularity-contest      upstart19:44
shlantapt     bsdmainutils  logrotate  mlocate  passwd  update-notifier-common19:44
shlantor any way to test each individually?19:44
bhalashRun each task individually19:44
bhalashA cron job is just a shell command with a timer attached19:45
shlantwhat's the easiest way to do that?19:45
Picishlant: honestly I would have thought it was logrotate or mlocate... :/19:45
shlantyea me too19:45
bhalashFind command in crontab, run job19:45
bhalashshlant: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-show-what-cron-jobs-are-setup/19:45
theperfectpunkgez: remove and reinstall edubuntu-desktop19:46
shlantbhalash: thanks19:46
gezi have done so - i will try again19:46
oswindid you check your usb?19:46
TJ-gez: reinstall is rarely necessary. Try describing the symptoms exactly and we may be able to help19:46
theperfectpunkexactly19:46
bhalashshlant: mlocale and anything that compacts log files are good culprits19:47
bhalashshlant: Is this on a server or home machine?19:47
shlantserver. I tried chmod -x'ing logrotate and mlocate and it still happened but I will test again19:47
stunts513I can't seem to get my nvme fakeraid to show up, i think i have traced it down to the ahci driver lacking support and wonder if anyone has had a simlar issue or knows of any patches.19:50
anabainA simple one: is it possible to query the pwd via qdbus for the konsole app? If yes, how it's done?19:50
TJ-stunts513: we've seen a few issues where the device doesn't actually declare itself as an NVMe class PCI device19:50
TJ-stunts513: what does "lspci -nn" report for the device ?19:51
stunts513yea this is one of those cases, its a z170 chipsette so when in raid its supposed to remap as a sata device19:51
TJ-stunts513: from my logs:19:52
TJ-2015-12-23 00:39:12      TJ-     the quick NVMe SSD is-supported check in future. Identifty the SATA controller's device class and if it isn't [0802] as shown by "lspci -nn" the nvme driver won't touch it19:52
stunts513the only storage controller that will list itself is the sata raid controller19:53
stunts513i can't exactly do an lspci at the moment, i can run a live os but my wifi drivers are also bugged19:53
stunts513so i am in windows currently19:53
stunts513but i can tell you what i remeber from memory19:53
TJ-stunts513: use the Windows Device Manager then; you can view the PCI IDs in the Details section19:53
stunts513in windows the ssd's don't register, it just see's it as a intel raid 0 volume19:54
stunts513o wait you mean the raid?19:54
stunts513er controller*19:55
scooterohmmm19:55
stunts513TJ: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&CC_010419:56
WeiJunLiI have removed a file, rm -f19:56
WeiJunLihow can I get it back?19:56
WeiJunLiis it possible?19:56
stunts513i think thats what you were asking for19:56
Pici!undelete | WeiJunLi maybe19:57
ubottuWeiJunLi maybe: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel19:57
georgesbonsoir19:57
ManUtd27s19:58
WeiJunLiPici: how do I get that comand !undelete19:59
stunts513TJ-: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&CC_0104, if you were asking for the raid controller's info this is it19:59
k1lWeiJunLi: see the bots text19:59
PiciWeiJunLi: you don't, read the links that ubottu just gave you.19:59
salamanderrakehow do I disable super-l being the launcher button?20:04
salamanderrakewell launcher search20:04
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bhalashsalamanderrake: https://askubuntu.com/questions/247331/how-do-i-remove-customize-unity-keyboard-shortcuts20:15
sruliTJ-: hi, any update on the PAM close_session?20:15
NiilosHello ! I'm stuck on my ubuntu laptop. I can't log in in tty or X login screen.20:19
NiilosI typed my password many times so I'm sure I don't fail typing it20:20
NiilosI typed it in the name field to be sure my keyboard layout is the good one and it's ok20:20
bhalashNiilos: So what's the error? "I can't login" isn't anything we can diagnose20:20
NiilosI tried in the TTYs it's the same20:21
NiilosI enter my password, press enter and it say : "wrong password"20:21
bhalashNiilos: So reset your pasasword. Boot into single user mode via your bootloader and reset20:22
Niilosok I try20:22
k1lNiilos: make sure caps is not on20:22
TJ-stunts513: I'd guess "CC_0104" is the device class; 01xx is a disk controller interface, whereas NVE should be 0x080220:22
TJ-sruli: not seen anything, I think the devs responsible have other things on20:23
sruliNp, tnx20:23
stunts513TJ-: yea 0104 is the class, i confirmed that much in linux last time i was booted into it.20:23
stunts513i don't see the nvme driver as what needs to load though, because from what i have read it should be being remapped as sate20:24
stunts513sata*20:24
studdentthow can i reset a device?   such as /dev/ttyUSB0 without rebooting ?20:24
TJ-stunts513: if it masquarades as a regular disk controller then the NMV benefits will be lost20:24
stunts513not sure about that, i still get 3gbps sequential read rates20:25
TJ-stunts513: on Linux?20:26
stunts513windows20:26
tknguyenhi all :) i'm using ubuntu 14.04 and gdb is TOTALLY BROKEN. when i try to run my program, it says, for instance my program called "pointers": Cannot exec /home/tknguyen/foo/pointers -c exec /home/tknguyen/foo/pointers -- it looks to me like gdb is trying to use my program as a shell!20:26
TJ-stunts513: well, that'll be because there's a specific Windows driver for it20:26
tknguyeni've been using gdb for ten years so unless the basic invocation of "gdb ./myprogram ^M run" has changed, this is ridiculous. why does ubuntu neglect developers so often???20:26
TJ-stunts513: I doubt the Windows device-class driver for NVMe is controlling that device20:27
stunts513TJ-: the driver its using is like 14.6 verison of the intel rst driver for the raid storage20:27
stunts513thats the only driver it uses for my storage controllers20:27
stunts513from what i read windows wouldnt even see the raid unless you are on a fairly recent version of the rst drivers20:28
tknguyensorry i just tried it on another ubuntu 14.04 computer and it did not have the same problem, so i think the guy using this computer has messed up his gdb20:28
TJ-stunts513: right, so Intel RST, which presumably 'knows' how to look after that particular device20:28
SaturnMirIs Budgie-Desktop any good on Ubuntu now? I know it is still quite new...20:28
stunts513in linux the same controller is relying off the achi module to operate20:29
stunts513which seems to partially work but only for my standard secondary hard drive20:29
TJ-tknguyen: are you using "gdb --args ..." ?20:29
k1lSaturnMir: its not in the repos so far. you need their PPA for that20:29
tknguyenTJ-, nope, just "gdb ./pointers"20:29
tknguyenTJ-, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/885669520:30
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TJ-tknguyen: "gdb --help" => "--args             Arguments after executable-file are passed to inferior"20:30
SaturnMirK1l is it worth it? I have been using Linux for about a month now...studying CS at Uni...so doing a lot of coding. I am using MATE at the moment but I was debating trying either Awesome/Scrotwm or Budgie...any suggestions?20:31
tknguyenTJ-, however, i have not issued any extra arguments to the command i wish to debug20:31
TJ-tknguyen: what is 'pointers' then? "file pointers"20:32
TJ-tknguyen: Oh, I see it , never  mind20:32
tknguyenTJ-, it's just a program i wrote in C to demonstrate pointer arithmetic in C to a colleague20:32
k1lSaturnMir: use what you want. every user got a different taste and workflow. but tilingWM like awesome are somewhat for advanced users. budgie is not ready anyway20:32
TJ-tknguyen: is there something in the .gdbinit adding that?20:33
SaturnMirK1l I spend 90% of my time on Sublime Text, Chrome, or the terminal...20:34
TJ-tknguyen: do you have the source somewhere I can build/test against here?20:34
tknguyenTJ-, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/885669720:34
tknguyenTJ-, sure but it's not relevant. i even got the same result for gdb /bin/echo20:34
TJ-tknguyen: ensure 'gdb' is what you think it is!20:35
Niilosi'm back20:36
TJ-tknguyen: I see "file $(which gdb)" => "/usr/bin/gdb: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64 ..."20:36
NiilosI started ubuntu in recovery mode20:36
NiilosI changed the password in the root console20:36
NiilosBut it said "auth tocken manipulation failed"20:36
Picitknguyen: what does echo $SHELL say?20:36
TJ-tknguyen: what shell is set? "echo $SHELL" ?20:37
TJ-Niilos: did you remount the root file-system read-write for that?20:38
NiilosI don't think so20:39
NiilosHow should I do that ?20:39
TJ-Niilos: that might explain it, since the /etc/shadow file wouldn't be writeable20:40
NiilosOk20:40
TJ-Niilos: "mount -o remount,rw /" then do your "passwd <username>" command20:40
TJ-tknguyen: you can also, in gdb, do "set startup-with-shell false" to avoid that error.20:40
tknguyenTJ-, let me try20:41
NiilosTJ- : Thanks you, I'll try20:41
tknguyenTJ-, it worked!20:41
tknguyenTJ-, huh, very strange...20:41
tknguyenTJ-, learn something new every day i guess :)20:42
TJ-tknguyen: it's a gdb thing, depends on whether it decides to execute your command directly or via a shell20:42
Froplahello, i have ubuntu installed on my laptop, and i want to move the hard drive to a second laptop.. ubuntu will works normally in the second laptop or i have to re-install it in this case?20:42
TJ-Fropla: it'll boot fine; there may be an issue with the video if the GPUs are different, but it should operate at some usably default20:43
SaturnMirFropla ... I am no expert but unless the spec is the same you will probably get issues20:43
FroplaTJ-: even if the specs are not the same?20:44
TJ-Fropla: generally, hardware devices are discovered and auto-configured at boot-time. Some systems that have a custom X server config /etc/X11/xorg.conf would have problems20:44
SaturnMirFropla ... issues of what scope I am unsure. Like TJ- said...video will be an issue20:44
TJ-Fropla: as long as the CPU on the target supports the architecture that is installed20:44
TJ-Fropla: e.g. a 64-bit amd64 install won't boot on a pure 32-bit CPU20:44
FroplaTJ-: ah ok, well i have a 64 bit cpu.. so do you think it will be fine if i try it?20:45
TJ-Fropla: It should be fine, as long as the target PC's firmware boot manager menu can handle it. If it is installed for UEFI boot, but the target PC is BIOS-only, it won't boot20:46
Froplaok thx !20:46
stunts513_TJ-: i'm going to reboot into ubuntu and try one last thing before i blame the ahci driver.20:46
stunts513_i'm actually hardwired this time round so i may be able to join the irc if you have any other ideas20:47
TJ-stunts513_: its not the AHCI driver :) it's the device-class in the hardware's PCI config space. It isn't claiming to be NVMe. maybe that can be changed in the PCs firmware config20:47
stunts513_the same raid controller i'm seeing in used in windows is in linux as well, but its using the ahci module for it20:48
stunts513_anyways il bbs i gotta isntall stuff once im in the live os20:49
TJ-stunts513_: right, but as said earlier, it's probably the Windows drivers knows something special about that hardware. The Linux ahci driver is designed to work with devices that are known to be pure ACHI. See "modinfo -F alias ahci" for the alias list20:49
NiilosI'm back here20:50
NiilosThe password change worked20:50
salamanderrakebhalash: outdated info but thanks for pointing me in a diriction at least.20:51
NiilosBut the graphical login (even if it don't say invalid password) come back to the login prompt20:51
theweirdn8anyone here experienced with SDL 2.x and can help me solve my window un-minimize event problem?20:52
TJ-Niilos: is the user configured for encrypted home directory?20:52
k1lNiilos: log into the tty1 and do a "ls -al" and see who is the owner of the .Xauthority file20:52
NiilosI can log in a TTY but can't see my files (I checked the crypt my personal datas while installing)20:52
k1lor its encrypted20:52
salamanderrakebhalash: there is no /usr/share/unity/lenses folder20:52
TJ-Niilos: ahh, so now your user's password is out of sync with the wrapper passphrase, so the user's files cannot be automatically decrypted and mounted20:53
NiilosI used the command like said in the README file but my passphrase isn't accepted20:53
TJ-Niilos: use "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase" and enter the OLD user password, then the NEW user password20:55
NiilosTJ- With the .ecrypt/wrapped-passphrase as argument ?20:56
TJ-Niilos: no, no arguments, it knows by your username where to find the current wrapper (/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/)20:57
NiilosTJ- : It really wants an argument20:57
TJ-Niilos: hmmm, not here when I tested it20:58
Niilosit want a [file]20:58
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TJ-Niilos: OK, try "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase"21:01
salamanderrakethis helped http://askubuntu.com/questions/105558/how-do-i-disable-the-super-key21:02
geirha[file] in the synopsis means file is optional21:02
NiilosTJ- : It said unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]21:04
TJ-Niilos: that means the old password you're using is incorrect21:05
TJ-Niilos: the fact your original problem was not being able to log-in with that user makes me wonder if the keyboard mapping or locale has changed?21:06
Alex02ciao21:07
Alex02!list21:07
ubottuAlex02: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».21:07
Alex02ok yes21:07
NiilosTJ- : When I type my username the layout is good21:11
NiilosTJ- : It woks all great now tnaks you very much :)21:17
TJ-Niilos: *phew!*21:17
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NiilosTJ- : It appeard that I just misstyped my password in the first place21:18
NiilosTJ- : *shame on me*21:18
NiilosTJ- : I'm very greatful =)21:18
NiilosTJ- : And sorry for importunate you !21:19
TJ-Niilos: I'm pleased you solved it... losing access to encrypted home directory is not a nice thing to have to fix, especially if you did not safely store the MASTER key as prompted when first encrypting it21:19
TJ-Niilos: might be a good idea to do that NOW!21:19
NiilosTJ- : If the master key is what I typed as a passphrase when I installed ubuntu I got it21:20
NiilosTJ- : In a secure place of course !21:21
TJ-Niilos: no, the master key is *wrapped* by the user's password21:21
ubuntu-matesalut à tous21:21
TJ-Niilos: "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase" should display the master key, which you should securely store offline21:21
NiilosTJ- : I take notes21:22
NiilosTJ- : It seems to be short for a key21:23
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TJ-Niilos: it should be 32 hexadecimal digits; 128-bit key21:26
TJ-Niilos: ecryptfs uses 128-bit symmetrical AES keys by default21:28
NiilosTJ- : The recovery mode seems to be a security issue (not as a lambda user but in an entreprise for instance) can I disable it and then make the access lost if the password is forgotten ?21:28
NiilosTJ- : Yes it is 128bits. Thanks you.21:28
TJ-Niilos: how do you mean, recovery mode is a security issue?21:29
Sebastienso i have a folder in var/www/html/here and i would like to make a "copy" of this folder, and put it in /home/bot/here so file management is wasier to do, how would i do that?21:29
Sebastienit's to pu eggdrop logs on my web server21:29
TJ-Niilos: anyone that has physical access to a PC means security is lost if that person is an attacker21:30
JC_Hi All. Greyhole or Raid for mirroring drives?21:30
NiilosTJ- : Ok.21:31
NiilosTJ- : Thanks you again for you're help !21:32
NiilosTJ- : Bye :)21:32
TJ-Niilos: you can implement GRUB passwords to prevent access, use full disk encryption, or even encrypt the /boot/ file-system using dm_crypt/LUKS (as in Full Disk Encryption)21:32
JC_Mirroring drives anyone?21:32
NiilosTJ- : Nice, I keep that on a memo21:32
NiilosTJ- : I was looking for entire disk encryption few time ago21:33
NiilosTJ- : your* sorry21:33
Sebastienhow could i give a user permission to write in /var/www/html/here/ ?21:36
Sebastiensimlink?21:36
Ben64add them to the www-data group21:37
TJ-Sebastien: group membership, or  file ACLs maybe,21:37
Sebastieni did that: sudo adduser thisuser www-data21:37
Sebastienbut i get21:37
SebastienCould not load pisg! Reason:21:37
Sebastien./pisg: Unable to open outputfile(/var/www/html/s/socialdawgs.html): Permission denied21:37
anabainIs it possible to query the pwd via qdbus for the konsole app? If yes, how it's done? I mean a command at the CLI that yields /this/is/the/cwd21:37
Ben64Sebastien: ls -ld /var/www/html/s21:37
TJ-Sebastien: by default group www-data only has read-execute for that heirachy; you'd need to "chmod -R +w :www-data /var/www/html/here"21:38
SebastienBen6421:38
Sebastienseb@freenode:~$ ls -ld /var/www/html/s21:38
Sebastiendrwxrwxr-x 2 seb seb 4096 Jan 14 06:52 /var/www/html/s21:38
SebastienTJ-, as root user?21:38
Ben64well there you go, seb owns that directory21:38
bob2017hey, is k1rk around?21:38
SebastienBen64, i need /home/stats/ to have access to it21:38
k1lbob2017: just ask, so others might help21:39
TJ-Sebastien: looks like you're already messed with the default ownerships/permissions21:39
Ben64Sebastien: not sure what you got going on there... ^21:39
Sebastienok, /home/seb/ is my main account with sudoer permission. but another account /home/stats/ is where my stats are, and they need permission to write in /html/s/21:39
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bob2017k1l its been a whole saga… i’m not able to boot into either GUI or CLI, apparenlty because of problems with ubuntu recognizing video cards.  the system has an nvidia and and amd.  the monitors are hooked up to the amd.  last night we found it was trying to use the nvidia every time.  today, i tried reinstalling ubuntu, then chrooted in from livecd, uninstalling nouveau, and rebuilding initrd.  at that point it would boot until i21:41
bob2017wanted to go into low graphics mode, but would freezew whenever i tried to go to the console.  once it booted into emergency mode properly, and i could use it, because there was a disk error.  the current status, i went back in through livecd/chroot, installed fglrx, rebuild xorg.conf, and now we’re back to video freezing right after the bios screen21:41
bob2017kernel command lines are, for whateve reason, being ignored; emergency, text, etc, it always tries to load X.21:41
IceNinehey all, is it possible when you ssh to a host to x11 already running processes? instead of spawning a new one?21:41
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SebastienBen64, TJ-,21:45
Sebastienseb@freenode:/$ sudo chmod -R +w :www-data /var/www/html/21:45
Sebastienchmod: cannot access ‘:www-data’: No such file or directory21:45
llldinoIceNine, Check this out :http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/152291/can-i-move-a-running-application-to-a-different-x-server21:45
Ben64Sebastien: i think you're confusing chmod and chown21:45
Sebastienhmm21:45
someone235hi, I can't see when my battery is charging. Someone knows what can cause this?21:47
llldinoSebastien, Shouldn't it be chmod -R +w /path/to/whatever21:47
Sebastienchown -R stats:www-data /var/www/html21:47
louiematanyone, what do you think of ubuntu mate 15.1021:47
Sebastieni think i found21:48
guntbert!ot | louiemat21:48
ubottulouiemat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:48
Hanom1960I have any question21:57
dark-jediHanom1960: Just ask the question. Someone may have the answer.21:58
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Hanom1960How i can configure simple-scan for that my scans are legal size ?21:59
Hanom1960i only can scan in letter size21:59
JC_What would people recommend Raid 1 or Greyhole22:05
Hanom1960How i can configure simple-scan for that my scans are legal size ?22:06
Hanom1960i only can scan in letter size22:06
geetarI have a headless server at home with one pic card and 4 USB 2.0 slots.  When I connect an external drive to it, I can sometimes get it to be recognized for a minute or so and then I get errors.  The drive seems fine when connected to my ubuntu laptop.  I don't know how to diagnose whether it is the drive, pci card, or ubuntu server.22:07
k1lJC_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/greyhole  see this page22:07
JC_Thanks kll but it still doesnt explain which is better22:09
geetarHanom1960, I just connected.  What kind of scanner?22:10
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JC_Basically I have two drives at 1TB they will store movies, pictures and music.22:11
JC_Which option would be best to mirror the other?22:11
Hanom1960fi-613022:11
mrtAkdenizhowdy!22:12
mrtAkdenizquick question: how can I remove a service from "service" list?22:12
mrtAkdenizI removed php5-fpm from system, but on system it still stay22:13
k1lJC_: mirror? for speed improvment or for backup? because backup doesnt work that way22:13
geetarHanom1960, I scan using a bash script and can do legal size.  I could never get a GUI to let me scan so had to improvise with my fujitsu:ScanSnap S1500:766822:14
JC_I suppose a backup of sorts but I would be backing up to a USB drive also.22:15
geetarHanom1960, is CLI or bash script an acceptable option?22:16
k1lJC_: neither of them both are meant for backup.22:16
Hanom1960geetar, what is the source code of script22:17
JC_I would just like the safety if one hard drive were to fail I would have the data on the other.22:17
JC_And its easy to get the data off the other.22:17
geetarHanom1960, you will have to find your scanner's options from scanimage -all-options.  Install scanimage if not already installed and do "man scanimage".22:19
geetarHanom1960, I will pastebin my bash script in a minute.  Beware that I am not a programmer, but it works for me.22:21
k1lJC_: so you will be better with a singel hdd with a backup script that copies the data to the other one22:21
dark-jediHanom1960: In simple-scan, click "Document" - "Preferences"22:21
dark-jediHanom1960: Page Size is probably set to Automatic. Change it to your needed page size.22:21
Hanom1960dark-jedi, i don't have option to configure22:21
dark-jediHanom1960: What menu options do you have?22:22
Hanom1960no, wait for screenshot22:22
scribblenetok I was wondering if anyone knows of a good ubuntu server guide to getting things set up in command line22:22
ken_hey anyone know where I can locate httpd.conf?22:22
Hanom1960https://i.imgur.com/6ewHHXE.png22:23
dark-jediken_: /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf22:23
neredsenvyAnyone here using apache and LXC containers22:25
chris__hey guys ubuntu just crashed, I was wondering, does anyone have a good pop up blocker i could use , i reported the crash to ubuntu22:25
chris__it was because of a firefox pop up22:26
dark-jediHanom1960: What I've been able to find on Google is that this is a bug with the Ubuntu Unity desktop. It shouldn't block the simple-scan menu bar but it does.22:27
IceNinethanks illdino22:28
JC_So why not Greyhole or Raid 1 K1l?22:28
dark-jediHanom1960: It looks like there is no fix forthcoming, so you could try another scan utility like SANE, or switch to another distro.22:28
k1lJC_: its not a backup22:28
k1lJC_: if you delete a file its still gone.22:28
someone235When I write "synclient VertEdgeScroll=1" I get "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?". Someone knows how to solve this?22:28
geetarHanom1960, my scanning bash script.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14499368/.  Again, I'm not a programmer.  I am sure you can improve it.22:28
chris__does anyone have a good firefox pop up blocker?22:30
geetarHanom1960, it scans the pages to tiff, converts to tiffs to pdf, combines the pdfs, names the file and pops it up on the screen.  Most of the script it just saving the settings I use most.22:30
dark-jedigeetar: Nice script! Only one thing I can see so far. Under SetSelectScanner() you have a Fujitsu scanner manually inputted. Would that line work with other people's scanners?22:30
JC_But if I delete a file then I dont want it anyway?22:31
k1lchris__: try "ublock"22:31
geetardark-jedi, I think I am missing a " or so in there.  But the script was designed to allow me to select standard options or custom.  It works on my S1500 and my older fujitsu scanner.22:33
stunts513Could someone remind me what the device class number is for nvme devices?22:33
k1lJC_: so ok. if you already choosen raid1 or greyhole then go for it.22:33
JC_No I haven't. I'm just curious with your answer.22:33
dark-jedigeetar: That's what I'm saying. Unless he manually edits those lines to his printer/scanner model, it probably won't work for him. But that is a great looking script.22:34
dark-jedigeetar: I'm very impressed by that. I'm totally going to try making it work on my scanner. :)22:34
geetardark-jedi, also, under scanimage, other scanners would have different options.  I think I found them with "scanimage --all-options".22:35
chris__@dark jedi, Take off these cuffs and leave then drop the gun22:35
k1lJC_: http://serverfault.com/questions/2888/why-is-raid-not-a-backup22:35
geetardark-jedi, definitely will require modification.  It is my script, let me pare out the options to make it easier for you.22:36
dark-jediHanom1960: One thing you might try first... When you open simple-scan hit the Super key and type "Preferences" in there. It might locate the Preferences menu in simple-scan.22:36
dark-jedigeetar: It's okay. I love playing around with BASH scripts. I just completed a 360-line script myself today22:37
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dark-jedigeetar: It used to be 564 lines, but I condensed some of the options and commands.22:38
JC_What would you recommend then?22:38
dark-jedi<chris__> @dark jedi, Take off these cuffs and leave then drop the gun22:42
dark-jediI have no idea what he means by that...22:42
dark-jediBut the leading @ symbol prevented me from being alerted, so I missed it until now.22:42
geetardark-jedi, good luck with it.  This script replicated most/all of the functionality of the scanning software that came with my fujitsu scanner.  It is actually better in one respect - unlimited presets by editing the script.22:47
dark-jedigeetar: That is a definite bonus!22:48
almarkwhat ever happened with middle-click copy and paste?22:49
almarkit's gone sortof :-\22:49
Jordan_Ualmark: It's working fine for me (as long as I'm not using a Wayland GNOME session). Please describe the problem you're having with middle click to paste.22:50
almarkthe problem is that it doesn't copy and paste anymore with ubuntu 14.04 unity22:51
k1lalmark: it does here on unity 15.1022:52
almarkit just suddenly stopped22:52
k1lalmark: you are aware that there are actually 2 clipboards and the middle-mouse one is different from ctrl+c and ctrl+v22:52
almarkyes i know22:53
Jordan_Ualmark: First of all, middle click has never (in any DE I can remember) copied content. Selecting any text adds that text to X's "primary" paste buffer, then pressing middle click pastes from the primary buffer. Note, this is a different buffer than the one that holds contents you explicitly copy.22:53
k1lok22:53
almarkthe process you just described Jordan_U stopped working here strange enough22:54
EriC^^does highlighting , then shift+insert work?22:55
almarkhighlighting !22:55
almarkues :)22:55
almarkyes22:55
dark-jediJordan_U: Middle-click does copy/paste in some Terminals.22:56
EriC^^then your middle mouse button isn't set22:56
anabainhow can I set, via qdbus (or whatever), the title of the dolphin window to the current path dolphin is at? I want to substitute the last dir name, which is what is shown by default, for the full path to that same dir. something like that but for dolphin instead of konsole: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27004924/how-can-i-automatically-set-the-window-title-in-konsole-kde-to-be-my-pwd-stri22:58
almarkit seems to work in the test your settings of mouse &touchpad22:58
dark-jediJordan_U: In most Terminals, you highlight text and middle-click and it copies and pastes it in the location of the cursor.22:58
Jordan_Udark-jedi: That's not actually middle click copying, that's the selection of the text copying it, then middle click pasting.22:59
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dark-jediJordan_U: Same thing. I can open up files and paste between them with a middle-click.23:04
Jordan_Udark-jedi: I don't think we're in disagreement. Middle click definitely does paste, it just doesn't copy.23:07
Dualityhi23:13
Dualityi am following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214968223:13
Dualityand when i boot23:13
Dualityfrom the usb disk the screen goes gray and has a circle with a line in it23:13
Dualityand does not boot further23:14
DualityI have not Idea what to do now or can do further23:15
MonkeyDustDuality  spare the enter key23:15
Dualityi am sorry if i am spamming :) i'll try and spare the enter key23:16
dark-jediDuality: Did you copy the image using the dd command?23:16
Dualitysudo dd bs=32768 if=lubuntu-14.04-desktop-powerpc.iso of=/dev/sdg1 conv=notrunc,noerror,sync23:17
MadRat2How do I do a backup of my Ubuntu install?  (I'm currently running Puppy Linux)23:17
dark-jediDuality: Take out the bs and conv variables.23:17
dark-jediDuality: Just run it directly input to output.23:18
dark-jediDuality: Note: It will appear to freeze as the dd command does its stuff. But once the Terminal pops back up, the image should be on the drive.23:18
Dualitydark-jedi: I use dd often23:19
Duality:)23:19
Dualitybut thanks23:19
Bashing-om!backup } MadRat223:20
ubottuBashing-om: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:20
Bashing-om!backup | MadRat223:21
ubottuMadRat2: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning23:21
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dark-jediDuality: My thoughts on it were that bs would probably fragment the image being copied. If you take out that variable, dd will set it dynamically.23:21
MadRat2Bashing-om: Coping and pasting.  Thank you ^_^23:22
EriC^^Duality: you're writing an iso to a partition23:23
Bashing-omMadRat2: K, but to be honest, all one needs to backup is peersonal files in the /home directory , and maybe some .config files. System files are on the install medium and do not require backing up .23:23
EriC^^Duality: you have to write it to the disk, not the partition, unless it's made that way which is unusual23:24
EriC^^also use bs=4M it'll speed up the process23:24
CinnamonRickRollanybody know a good alternative to xbacklight?23:25
EriC^^CinnamonRickRoll: xrandr can handle backlight23:25
CinnamonRickRollthanks23:25
EriC^^no problem23:25
DualityEriC^^: so just to /de/v/sdg ?23:26
EriC^^yeah, if you're sure that's what you want to overwrite, it'll overwrite the whole disk including the partition table etc23:26
DualityEriC^^: the drive is just a usbdisk that is empty23:28
Jordan_Udark-jedi: No, dd does not set bs dynamically. It defaults to bs=512, which is rarely ideal for performance.23:28
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Dualityit still does the gray screen :(23:31
Jordan_UDuality: I'm not sure that Ubuntu's powerpc isos are made so that they can be booted from USB when dd'd.23:32
DualityJordan_U: that is not cool, because the cd-drive in this mac is broken23:33
dark-jediJordan_U: My bad. You are correct. The command to make it dynamic is bs=N count=1 which sets dd to the amount of memory available.23:33
dark-jediJordan_U: It does create a large overhead though. And I've noticed that dd does copy slower on that.23:34
dark-jediJordan_U: The traditional 512 is usually the best, because when the amount of bytes to copy is given by bs×count, it is impossible to copy a prime number of bytes in a single dd command without making one of two bad choices23:35
Jordan_Udark-jedi: When the dd manual says "bs=N" they mean that you should replace "N" with a number. Literally using "bs=N" will just lead to an error message as 'N' is not a number.23:35
dark-jediJordan_U: I was copying from the dd manpage. Of course bs=N will give an error. The fact stands that when the amount of bytes to copy is given by bs×count, it is impossible to copy a prime number of bytes in a single dd command. This can lead to errors in the copy.23:38
Jordan_Udark-jedi: I have never needed to copy a prime number of bytes, other than 1 and maybe 3 or 7. 512 is rarely a good choice for dd'ing an iso to a USB drive simply because it will be needlessly slow.23:38
insidious /clear23:41
Jordan_UDuality: What OS is currently on this machine?23:42
bigboy69hello23:43
bigboy69is it ok to ask support questions here?23:43
blackflowbigboy69: yes23:44
dark-jediDuality: One other thing. Is the md5sum of the image you are using listed on the website? Check your drive image against the md5sum to make sure you got an accurate download on your copy.23:44
DualityJordan_U: osx23:44
bigboy69I have a small problem with the whisker menu in xubuntu. anytime I drag one of window icons on the panel the xfce icon disappears.23:45
bigboy69when I move my mouse back over it, it comes back23:45
bigboy69not really a problem but it is a little annoying23:46
dark-jedibigboy69: Right-click on the icon in the Whisker menu and click "Add to Panel" It should work better than dragging it.23:46
llldinobigboy69, I have this same problem too, but I'm on debian. I think it's a bug with XFCE23:47
bigboy69sorry, it's the icon icon to open the whisker menu itself that disappear23:47
bigboy69llldino: yeah I think it might be too23:48
llldinobigboy69, Yeah, sometimes when I'm dragging windows around, by application menu gets hidden behind a black box until I drag the mouse over it23:48
Jordan_UDuality: Do you have more than one USB drive?23:48
bigboy69have you had any negative effects besides the icon vanishing23:48
DualityJordan_U: yes23:49
llldinoBigBaby, No, just the icon vanishes until I hover back over it23:49
CinnamonRickRollanybody know an alternative to xbacklight, thats just as simple, and only works within the screen limitations?23:50
BigBabywhat icon llldino ?23:50
bigboy69alright, I guess I'll see if I can file a bug report23:50
yigalCinnamonRickRoll: screen limitations, please expand?23:50
llldinobigboy69, The icon for Applications Menu. Also, do you use the sensor plugin for your panel? Sometimes, it seems to lose my settings and reverts back to the default config if I hard reset the computer23:50
bigboy69sensors plugin?23:50
CinnamonRickRolllike it won't exceed the max brightness etc, bc i think xrandr can, unless i'm mistaken23:50
bigboy69don't think so23:51
yigalCinnamonRickRoll: have you checked this oldy but goody out http://askubuntu.com/questions/240857/what-commands-will-change-my-screens-brightness23:51
bigboy69I have one more thing that I'm not sure is a problem23:51
BigBabyno llldino i am mostly a server user in linux, so no GUI for me...23:51
llldinoYes, for the xfce4 panel. It displays values such as core temp, fan speed etc..23:51
CinnamonRickRollnop, not yet, thanks yigal23:51
yigalCinnamonRickRoll: np, let me know if it helps :)23:51
bigboy69think he meant me, BigBaby23:51
CinnamonRickRollwill do :)23:52
llldinoOh i'm talking to the wrong person ><23:52
llldinoYeah I meant big boy23:52
bigboy69no llldino, I don't use it23:52
BigBabyoh, lol, good luck llldino bigboy6923:52
bigboy69;) ta23:52
yigalbb careful23:52
llldinobigboy69, What's your other problem?23:52
ubuntu_ok23:52
bigboy69my battery icon sometimes doesn't show that AC is connected23:53
bigboy69when I go into power manager it say I have line_power23:53
bigboy69but also that the battery is discharging23:53
bigboy69below 95% it says it's charging and then suddenly cuts off23:54
bigboy69when it reaches past 9523:54
CinnamonRickRollyigal, i g2g and i haven't finished looking over it, I'll do it when i get a chance (almost certainly later today), but idk if you'll be on at the time23:55
CinnamonRickRollthanks so far anyway23:55
llldinobigboy69, How old is the battery?23:55
bigboy696 months23:56
yigalbigboy69: my apologies, but what laptop are you rocking, I came in a bit late on the topic?23:56
bigboy69it works perfectly in windows so it's not a hardware issue23:56
bigboy69ASUS TP300LA23:56
yigalbigboy69: ty sir23:56
yigalbigboy69: what version of Ubuntu are you running it on?23:58
yigalbigboy69: the change to systemd in 15.10 will change where we'll need to look for the issue23:59
llldinobigboy69, Do you have the package lm-sensors installed? If so, you may be able to read what the actual milliwatt per hour is on the battery, and see if it's activly charging beyond 9523:59
bigboy69xubuntu 15.1023:59
bigboy69I do23:59

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