[00:00] <smellsLikeGoatSp> hello everyone, is it safe to run a usb stick with a rufus-prepared XP ? I have ubuntu as my OS
[00:00] <meeeen> TJ-: so the only think i can do is to wait?
[00:00] <TJ-> meeeen: generally, yes. Or use native Windows.
[00:00] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: XP isn't safe to use anywhere for anyone
[00:00] <Nic335_> @daftykins No not efi, And I know.. But Im serious about it..
[00:01] <meeeen> TJ-: what do you mean by native Windows?
[00:01] <daftykins> Nic335_: so do you get GRUB at all or does it go straight to 10? did you disable hybrid shutdown?
[00:01] <TJ-> meeeen: I mean booting the PC into Windows and running the program from there.
[00:02] <salvatrucho> hola
[00:02] <Nic335_> @daftkins It was going straigh to windows 10 loader at first but now,. Im getting Can't find any os after post.. lol
[00:02] <ozbrk> hey guys
[00:02] <daftykins> Nic335_: wow. run grub-install from a live session
[00:03] <ozbrk> what is ubuntu communit channel
[00:03] <ozbrk> public channel somewhere I can talk ummm
[00:03] <ozbrk> off-topic
[00:03] <k1l_> !ot | ozbrk
[00:03] <meeeen> TJ-: oh ok. but i also tried to run it from PlayOnLinux but it didint work
[00:03] <eikon81g> Ok so, I have a standard flash drive that I am using in 15.10 and I simply formatted the drive as a FAT drive and it is owned by root and I can't figure out why
[00:03] <ozbrk> thanks
[00:04] <eikon81g> I did some research and it looks like others have this problem too..
[00:04] <daftykins> FAT can't have permissions
[00:04] <FastZ> Nic335_, see if you can fix the mbr / grub config by booting a live cd.
[00:04] <meeeen> TJ-: is there a way to go back to version 12.10 from 14.04?
[00:04] <eikon81g> daftykins, that's what I am reading but when I go to the properties it show it as owned by root
[00:05] <protn> teward: oki in cloud I had to create and attach boot disk thats why
[00:05] <protn> :D
[00:05] <Nic335_> The only thing though is that at first when i first installed w8 I had sda /root /swap and windows8 And on sdb I had a fat32 storage for both os's /boot and /home on there..
[00:05] <protn> new provider so
[00:05] <Nic335_> So by runing straith grub-install will it just reconize my config ?
[00:05] <protn> or maybe there is some other issue
[00:06] <daftykins> eikon81g: what properties? pastebin "mount"
[00:06] <TJ-> meeeen: no, and 12.10 is long out of support
[00:06] <protn> teward: if key ends in  alex@alex-ThinkPad-T61 do I use alex as user name?
[00:06] <protn> or whole string?
[00:07] <meeeen> TJ-: well, thank you for the help :)
[00:07] <eikon81g> daftykins, when I right click it it says that "you are not the owner"
[00:07] <eikon81g> in terminal pastebin | mount < right?
 that is why I have a bootable pen drive. I need XP for various Lab softwares. my virtual machine running XP cannot work at full bandwidth over the USB connection for some reason. I need a "real" XP machine. I stumbled upon rufus and if it is self-contained and I dont risk to damage the BIOS or my Ubuntu then I would give it a try
[00:08] <daftykins> eikon81g: no "mount | pastebinit" if installed
[00:08] <eikon81g> whoops ty 1 sec
[00:08] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: i doubt that allows anything other than XP installation.
[00:08] <eikon81g> (installing)
[00:09] <eikon81g> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14491990/
[00:09] <eikon81g> btw I am running off of ubuntu INSTALLED (not live) on usb
[00:10] <daftykins> eikon81g: sdc? yeah root mounted that drive. unplug it
[00:10] <eikon81g> ok
[00:10] <eikon81g> yes sdc
[00:10] <eikon81g> I formatted by just right clicking format and then selected FAT
[00:11] <Nic335_> Do any one know if boot-repair has any bug atm ?
[00:12] <smellsLikeGoatSp> daftykins: any software that would allow me to have a portable xp in a similar fashion like tails
[00:12] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: tails?
[00:12] <daftykins> the only tails i know was Sonic's pal
[00:13] <eikon81g> lol
[00:13] <smellsLikeGoatSp> daftykins: https://tails.boum.org/?
[00:13] <eikon81g> dafty can I mount it as my user?
[00:13] <daftykins> eikon81g: don't see why not. plug it back in and share a "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[00:13] <eikon81g> smellsLikeGoatSp, there used to be a univeralbootcd that would let you launch a xp from a disc.. have you considered a VM?
[00:14] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: anything you try to use like that would be immediately ruined by using XP in 2016.
[00:14] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: and this isn't a Windows support channel, so that's me out.
[00:14] <eikon81g> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14492033/
[00:15] <daftykins> eikon81g: help me out here, i spy 1007MB (weird size) NTFS /dev/sdc
[00:16] <Nic335_> Boot-repair is freezed at purge kernels then reinstall last kernal sda7 (ins) this may require serveral minutes
[00:16] <eikon81g> yea you are right I am seeing that too.. this is a 1.0gb flash drive (I am updating software on an in dash in the car so I am using this random flash drive) but I selected FAT and it's showing Ntfs there..
[00:16] <Nic335_> Any one know if this is a bug ?
[00:16] <smellsLikeGoatSp> eikon81g: I have virtualbox on my Ubuntu machine. but the usb bandwidth is pretty limited for some reason I cannot get more that 5Mb/s (MB/s?)
[00:16] <smellsLikeGoatSp> daftykins, having Ubuntu on my laptop it is of my concern not to harm it in any possible way
[00:16] <daftykins> not on topic to me
[00:17] <eikon81g> smellsLikeGoatSp, | !rules
[00:17] <TJ-> eikon81g: daftykins "ntfs" is only the partition table type indicator; it has no bearing on what is actually *in* the partition
[00:17] <smellsLikeGoatSp> !rules
[00:17] <daftykins> TJ-: that disappoints me about parted :(
[00:18] <ozbrk> guys are there anyone who using brackets by adobe ?
[00:18] <eikon81g> daftykins, is letting you know the windows related questions are off topic and he is unable to assist in that issue. As close as this channel could get is dual boot help
[00:18] <daftykins> eikon81g: check it isn't mounted again, from "mount" ; then use "mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1" or gparted perhaps
[00:18] <TJ-> eikon81g: daftykins as to 'loop', it is probably because the first partition claims to start at sector 0 (where the partition table lives)
[00:18] <TJ-> eikon81g: daftykins I'd recommend listing by sector numbers using "sudo parted /dev/sdc unit s print" to get the exact numbers
[00:19] <daftykins> eikon81g: ^ up to you then
[00:19] <eikon81g> ok let me try that.. I hate to say it but this is getting confusing, lol I am trying to keep up. Ty guys for the assist by the way
[00:19] <mentalisto27> hallo test
[00:19] <smellsLikeGoatSp> eikon81g, I am sorry if this went a little off-topic. can I then ask how I would enable virtual box on Ubuntu to take full advantage of my usb ports?
[00:20] <eikon81g> sudo parted /dev/sdc unit s print
[00:20] <eikon81g> oops.
[00:20] <eikon81g> Number  Start  End       Size      File system  Flags
[00:20] <eikon81g>  1      0s     1966079s  1966080s  ntfs
[00:20] <TJ-> eikon81g: so that confirms my hypothesis
[00:21] <eikon81g> !virtualbox
[00:21] <TJ-> eikon81g: sector 0 is where the partition table lives; no partition should include it
[00:22] <eikon81g> I may just break down and format this thing on another machine.. I guess I just wonder why 15.10 can't format the drive correctly..
[00:22] <smellsLikeGoatSp> !virtualbox
[00:22] <TJ-> eikon81g: If I recall correctly there were some embedded devices used that 'trick' to cause Windows to not 'see' anything on the device
[00:22] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: virtualbox has nothing to do with using the USB drive - your ports aren't at fault, your flash drive is probably cheap and rubbish
[00:22] <eikon81g> smellsLikeGoatSp, check that link I think there is usb emulation issues with virtualbox
[00:23] <eikon81g> that could be it too I'd go with daftykins I vaguely remember there being some issues with VM and USB devices you may have to run that down in another channel tho
[00:23] <smellsLikeGoatSp> daftykin: I am connecting a Thorlabs camera to my usb port... ... ...
[00:23] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: that means less than nothing to me
[00:24] <TJ-> smellsLikeGoatSp: you're using VB's USB host pass-through to the guest?
[00:25] <eikon81g> daftykins, lol.. I am going to use another machine to format this thing.. I was reading up on this issue I think it may make it's way to a bug tracker because there are quite a few people asking similar questions
[00:25] <smellsLikeGoatSp> eikon81g, I will check it out. Also, Thorlabs provides a driver for the camera for Linux machines which I tried but it conflicts with the usb-driver I have.
[00:25] <daftykins> eikon81g: just use gparted, get it done
[00:25] <smellsLikeGoatSp> daftykins, it mean it has nothing to do with cheap and rubbish flash drive
[00:25] <eikon81g> daftykins, on it.
[00:26] <eikon81g> ty guys :p
[00:26] <daftykins> smellsLikeGoatSp: ah, your talk of slow USB was confusing earlier then.
[00:27] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp, according to their site, the driver is for 2.6.xx LINUX kernel (min. 2.6.9, max. 2.6.24); http://www.thorlabs.de/software_pages/ViewSoftwarePage.cfm?Code=DCx
[00:28] <smellsLikeGoatSp> TJ- :  all I did was setting up the usb port in the virtual machine through the properties..not sure if that is what you mean?
[00:29] <_mirko_> Hi guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu setup.
[00:29] <_mirko_> Games wont launch
[00:29] <_mirko_> they just flash
[00:29] <_mirko_> terarria infinifactory
[00:29] <rom1504> try uninstalling flash
[00:30] <TJ-> smellsLikeGoatSp: I'd guess so, although I don't use VB myself, but 'passthrough' is a keyword you may want to use to search for potential bugs
[00:30] <eikon81g> !flash
[00:30] <eikon81g> !flash | _mirko_
[00:30] <smellsLikeGoatSp> DerHeks: ups I missed on that! thanks :)
[00:30] <rww> ... I don't think he meant Flash the browser plugin, guys
[00:30] <rww> he meant that the screen just flashes
[00:30] <eikon81g> OHH
[00:30] <eikon81g> lol
[00:31] <artois> rww: yeah but !'s are fun, don't you know
[00:31] <_mirko_> no the window
[00:31] <OerHeks> mirko, you might need xna40 >> http://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/i-finally-found-a-way-to-run-terraria-on-ubuntu-playonlinux.5477/
[00:31] <eikon81g> video drivers up to date _mirko_ ?
[00:31] <_mirko_> fullscreen windows
[00:31] <eikon81g> go with OerHeks
[00:31] <rww> artois: apparently :s
[00:31] <smellsLikeGoatSp> TJ- : thank you! I am on it
[00:31] <OerHeks> mirko anyway, it is a wine issue
[00:32] <_mirko_> I don't think it's wine issue because these are native games I think.
[00:32] <_mirko_> infinifactory is, not sure for terraria
[00:33] <artois> _mirko_: run them from a terminal and observe the error output
[00:33] <neredsenvy> I have a single VPS where I want to deploy multiple applications (ruby/rails, python/django, php/laravel) etc.. I want/can have them all managed by same HTTP (apache) and I want them to be able to share same DB's MySQL, PSQL.. However each of these applications requires different lang SDK versions, diff tools, plugins etc. I would like to keep these packaged outside main OS
[00:33] <rww> terraria has a Linux version, yes
[00:33] <neredsenvy> Is there a way to do this ?
[00:35] <_mirko_> I need to recconect I'll be here in a minute. I'm in CLI I can't see more than last message. Sorry I didn't catch all of your advices.
[00:35] <_mirko_> quit
[00:35] <daftykins> neredsenvy: is this for testing or actual production...
[00:36] <neredsenvy> daftykins: Actuall production for personal projects. Still a student, can afford only 1 VPS atm : )
[00:36] <daftykins> neredsenvy: does it really need to be online...
[00:36] <neredsenvy> daftykins: I know best scenario would be AWS running separate instance per application each configured for said application with detached services
[00:37] <neredsenvy> daftykins: It's a DigitalOcean VPS
[00:37] <daftykins> that's not what i asked
[00:37] <neredsenvy> daftykins: Yes it has to be online
[00:37] <daftykins> why?
[00:38] <neredsenvy> Hosts applications I need on the go for work & play
[00:38] <neredsenvy> Websites, task managers,..
[00:38] <neredsenvy> api services
[00:38] <smellsLikeGoatSp> eikon81g, did you use something like http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/keep-portable-ubuntu-installation-wherever-go/ ? this seems to allow Windows, or am I completely off?
[00:38] <TJ-> neredsenvy: if you want to keep them isolated I'd recommend LXC (containers) for each service, and use an apache2 reverse-proxy on the host to connect to each service on dedicated localhost ports only
[00:38] <daftykins> neredsenvy: you're going to need a lot of RAM.
[00:39] <eikon81g> smellsLikeGoatSp, that would be a Ubuntu persistent usb drive
[00:39] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp, not suitable for windows XP, ask in ##windows to be sure.
[00:39] <eikon81g> that would be assuming that you have windows on your machine currently, you could then use a bootable version of ubuntu from a flash drive
[00:39] <neredsenvy> daftykins: They are pretty small applications not anything heavy duty
[00:40] <smellsLikeGoatSp> eikon81g: I though it would work the same as when you set a double boot and you install windows first..
[00:40] <smellsLikeGoatSp> DerHeks: will do.
[00:40] <daftykins> neredsenvy: you haven't admin'd a host with MySQL, PHP and apache before have you? :>
[00:40] <smellsLikeGoatSp> thanks everyone
[00:40] <daftykins> neredsenvy: i just hope you're not trying to use the $5/mo lowest tier at DO...
[00:41] <neredsenvy> TJ-: This seems pretty heavyweight is there no simpler solution
[00:41] <neredsenvy> daftykins: 10$ I mean I have not yet reached the maximum
[00:41] <neredsenvy> At heaviest usage I stay < 70% resource usage
[00:42] <neredsenvy> daftykins: So far the way I setup my VPS was pretty much according to DO guide
[00:42] <neredsenvy> everything installed to system
[00:44] <TJ-> neredsenvy: LXC is very lightweight
[00:44] <daftykins> neredsenvy: eh? so you already set it up?
[00:45] <neredsenvy> daftykins: I have a LAMP stack setup pretty much it
[00:45] <neredsenvy> TJ-: How much more RAM&CPU drain can I expect on top of my apps
[00:48] <TJ-> neredsenvy: it wouldn't be much more than what would be used if you have it all running uncontained. The point of LXC containers is you 'map' dirs/files from the host into the container so they can run isolated, but their exectuable code is in shared libraries and shared kernel pages even when multiple containers exectute the same code.
[00:48] <zippo^> is opera for 64 bits only?
[00:49] <artois> it's for people who like closed source software only
[00:49] <zippo^> ?
[00:49] <neredsenvy> TJ-: Aaa ok I was looking at wiki. Saw virtualization software & references to wmware, vlware, virtual box etc..
[00:50] <neredsenvy> I know full on virtualization would be an option but that would have been nastyyy
[00:50] <daftykins> nasty for who?
[00:50] <smellsLikeGoatSp> can I import a camera feed which is not labelled as /video to vlc by specifying where it should import from? Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d: or the lke
[00:50] <neredsenvy> my RAM/CPU
[00:51] <TJ-> neredsenvy: yes, it's an easy confusion. Even LXC examples - to keep it simply - create minimal chroots but that isn't necessary since the basis of LXC is mapping file-system nodes into a separate control cgroup, and namespace
[00:51] <TJ-> smellsLikeGoatSp: no.
[00:51] <artois> zippo^: kinda looks that way, yes
[00:51] <zippo^> oh ok
[00:52] <zippo^> i use 32 bits
[00:52] <smellsLikeGoatSp> TJ- : it was worth a shot
[00:52] <artois> zippo^: you can use the unstable version in 32-bit
[00:52] <zippo^> so, does opera stop to support for 32 bits, artois ?
[00:52] <artois> don't ask me why
[00:52] <artois> zippo^: yes, at least for "stable" builds
[00:52] <zippo^> where/
[00:52] <artois> zippo^: you should really find another browser (_and_ get a 64-bit proc :p)
[00:53] <zippo^> why did you say: :p ?
[00:53] <k1l_> zippo^: 32bit is old and dies. dont run 32bit if your hardware can go 64bit
[00:53] <OerHeks> zippo^, old post, they tried to make a 32 bit version http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2015/04/opera-developer-30-now-available-32-bit-linux/
[00:53] <OerHeks> but it is old, very old
[00:53] <zippo^> my ram is 2 GB
[00:53] <zippo^> can this running to 64-bits?
[00:54] <k1l_> zippo^: that doesnt have to do with ram
[00:54] <artois> zippo^: http://get.geo.opera.com.global.prod.fastly.net/pub/opera-beta/35.0.2066.10/linux/opera-beta_35.0.2066.10_i386.deb
[00:54] <k1l_> zippo^: if the cpu and mainboard can, yes
[00:54] <zippo^> ok thx for the explaining
[00:54] <artois> zippo^: grep ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo
[00:54] <zippo^>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.2.0-23-generic i686 ** Distro: Ubuntuo "wily0uo" 15.10uo ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU        P6200  @ 2.13GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,20GHz ** RAM: Physical: 1,8GiB, 47,3% free ** Disk: Total: 227,3GiB, 57,9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 2h 34m 11s **
[00:55] <sniper213> salut tout le monde
[00:55] <artois> zippo^: that's a 64-bit proc
[00:55] <artois> zippo^: if you aren't running Ubuntu for 64-bit, you might consider doing so
[00:55] <artois> it'll basically take a reinstall, however :)
[00:55] <zippo^> so, can I install 64-bits?
[00:55] <artois> yes
[00:55] <Bray90820> So my ubuntu home server keeps looking network connectivity but ping seems to works
[00:56] <artois> if you use a 64-bit OS
[00:56] <k1l_> zippo^: see http://ark.intel.com/de/products/50176/Intel-Pentium-Processor-P6200-3M-Cache-2_13-GHz
[00:56] <zippo^> Can I upgrade 32-bits to 64-bits? or do i must format and install?
[00:56] <k1l_> zippo^: reinstall
[00:56] <zippo^> how?
[00:56] <OerHeks> zippo reinstall
[00:56] <zippo^> yes, without format?
[00:57] <artois> you could, technically, but it's not worth the trouble
[00:57] <artois> backup your personal data, your configs, your package list, then do a fresh install
[01:00] <avoider> Can some one tell me the command to chmod ~/.config/hexchat
[01:01] <daftykins> avoider: in order to achieve what?
[01:01] <avoider> idk hexchat told me its ubuntu problem to come here
[01:01] <artois> ls -al ~/.config/ | grep -i hexchat doesn't say 'insidious'?
[01:02] <daftykins> "ls -al ~/.config/ | pastebinit"
[01:02] <avoider> the error i get is
[01:02] <avoider> You do not have write access to  /home/insidious/.config/hexchat. Nothing from this session  can be saved.
[01:02] <artois> interesting
[01:02] <daftykins> avoider: pastebin the above
[01:02] <avoider> ok
[01:02] <genii> You've probably used sudo on it at some point
[01:02] <daftykins> ^
[01:03] <artois> or migrated it
[01:03] <OerHeks> avoider, maybe your filesystem is not clean, so it is mounted readonly
[01:03] <avoider> i tried that command it did not work.
[01:03] <artois> avoider: try mine :p
[01:03] <daftykins> avoider: you have to install pastebinit
[01:04] <genii> avoider: I'd suggest: sudo chown insidious:insidious ~/.config/hexchat
[01:04] <daftykins> also, don't ever tell anyone "it does not work" - say what actually happened
[01:04] <artois> yeah I'm not sure anything in ~/.config should ever be owned by someone else
[01:04] <artois> should be pretty safe
[01:04] <daftykins> be nice to check the perms at the same time in one hit
[01:05] <avoider> chown: missing operand after ‘insidious:insidious’
[01:06] <avoider> that is what it told me
[01:06] <artois> avoider: you copy & paste what he gave you?
[01:07] <artois> from after the colon (:) on
[01:07] <avoider> yes
[01:07] <avoider> yes
[01:07] <genii> avoider: Maybe substitue ~/.config/hexchat for full path then. /home/insidious/.config/hexchat
[01:07] <avoider> genii it worked
[01:07] <genii> I'm sort of wondering if that file even exists now
[01:07] <avoider> the first command you told me.
[01:07] <artois> sort of wondering what user you are using
[01:08] <avoider> when i installed hexchat i  did
[01:08] <avoider> sudo apt-get install hexchat
[01:08] <avoider> because when i tried without using sudo i did not let me.
[01:08] <artois> that's not so relevant :)
[01:08] <TJ-> avoider: what does "echo $USER $HOME" report ?
[01:08] <protn> hi folks are there some gui remote server text editors?
[01:08] <protn> gui love much
[01:09] <protn> nano black mofo :)
[01:09] <TJ-> protn: mount the remote file-system locally
[01:09] <genii> avoider: If the chown command successfully completed, hexchat shouldn't complain about that particular issue now
[01:09] <avoider> insidious@hydrogen:~$ echo $USER $HOME
[01:09] <avoider> insidious /home/insidious
[01:09] <avoider> that is what it reported.
[01:09] <protn> TJ-:  how?
[01:09] <TJ-> avoider: OK, you've not got any weird mappings going on
[01:10] <TJ-> protn: well, as you've configured ssh already, you could use sshfs
[01:10]  * genii wanders off to watch hockey
[01:10] <TJ-> !info sshfs | protn
[01:11] <avoider> brb
[01:12] <SHAWN_> d
[01:12] <TJ-> protn: once installed see 'man sshfs' but generally I do "mkdir -p ~/mnt/SERVER_NAME; sshfs user@remote ~/mnt/SERVER_NAME"
[01:13] <TJ-> protn: then, the user@remote's home file-system is available under $HOME/mnt/SERVER_NAME/
[01:14] <TJ-> protn: if you want access to the remote's system directories though, you'll have to jump through some security hoops
[01:14] <TJ-> protn: more info here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[01:15] <insidious> Thanks to everyone who helped with the hexchat issues... its working fine now!
[01:20] <artois> gj
[01:20] <locnd> hi
[01:22] <protn> sudo echo "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" > info.php
[01:22] <protn> -bash: info.php: Permission denied
[01:22] <protn> weird, how do I fix it?
[01:23] <anabain> protn, if you want immediate access to your remote /home/username, basically what you have to do is this: 1) Being a client root, ssh to remote /home/username  in order to add remote server username identity to the client root, that is:  sudo ssh username@server
[01:23] <artois> protn: use a text editor
[01:23] <artois> protn: or sudo chown afterwards
[01:24] <artois> protn: or give root a password and su to it
[01:24] <DaNorby> Anyone havev a hard drive that wouldn' boot to no matter what ya tried?
[01:25] <smartp0wne> DaNorby, is it bricked?
[01:25] <anabain> protn, 2) Then copy your username private key at the client to .ssh dir *at your client root*: sudo cp /home/username/.ssh/id_rsa /root/.ssh/
[01:26] <DaNorby> DOn't know.  I made a mistake and bought a used drive.
[01:26] <DaNorby> 500GB I wanted to replaced a failin drive that was 60gb
[01:26] <DaNorby> It lets me install an OS but it won't boot to that OS
[01:27] <smartp0wne> DaNorby, tried Gparted?
[01:28] <anabain> protn, 3) Being at (root # prompt), check you can log into the remote server as username without having to enter any password: # ssh username@server
[01:30] <DaNorby> I did a complete wipe of the hd twice as well as had linux do the partitions.  Yes tried gparted.
[01:30] <smartp0wne> DaNorby, "fdisk /mbr"
[01:31] <smartp0wne> DaNorby, these are all my "magic" for hard disks
[01:32] <artois> DaNorby: it boots to a root # prompt?
[01:32] <anabain> protn, btw, the method I described works seamlessly in conjunction with the automounter utility, which allows you to mount your shares (not only sshfs) "on-the-fly" and automatically, e.g., whenever you browse to the mount dir at the client automount will mount that share for you.
[01:33] <DaNorby> Yes I have tried the fdisk and still I get nowhere.
[01:33] <artois> DaNorby: it boots to a root # prompt?
[01:34] <DaNorby> When it boots it shows "Grub Rescue>"
[01:34] <artois> probably nothing wrong with the drive, then
[01:35] <artois> DaNorby: boot into the install media, do 'try ubuntu', and we can get some information from you and figure it out
[01:35] <DaNorby> Let me boot it for the full message.
[01:35] <DaNorby> error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'.  Entering Rescue mode
[01:36] <DaNorby> OKay.
[01:37] <anabain> DaNorby, what distro did you install?
[01:38] <DaNorby> Zorin, but I have a mint iso I need to burn.
[01:39] <artois> most any live OS will suffice
[01:39] <artois> particularly any of zorin, mint, or ubuntu, as they're all Ubuntu
[01:40] <anabain> DaNorby, I don't know about mint, but I had an issue very similar to yours
[01:42] <DaNorby> Zorin has booted.
[01:42] <smartp0wne> cya guys
[01:42] <anabain> DaNorby, in my case the problem was that when partitioning, the installer was not clear about which partitioning method it was using, DOS or GPT. So if you've tried installing more than once you're likely to have messed up your system.
[01:43] <DaNorby> I wiped the drive before each try.
[01:43] <DaNorby> to try and start as if it was a fresh clean hd/install
[01:44] <OerHeks> DaNorby, zorin has its own support, mint too
[01:44] <DaNorby> OKay.
[01:44] <anabain> DaNorby, make sure you wipe it using gparted from a live cd/usb
[01:45] <DaNorby> I am thinkin a bad burn cause bootin to 'try zorin' isn't showin a menu or anything.
[01:45] <DaNorby> Gotcha
[01:48] <anabain> DaNorby, if you cannot make it boot, you'll have to put this hdd into another working system and wipe it properly. When you have it installed on the other box, you also should rule out hdd mechanical problems (just in case), so search for smartmontools info and tutorials to perform some basic health checks on your hdd
[01:51] <DaNorby> I will try that.  Thanks.
[02:00] <jedix> tj-
[02:00] <jedix> hrm.
[02:00] <jedix> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/wZP1GmmB
[02:10] <croc> is there anyway to use apt-get without having access to 443 or port 80?
[02:10] <croc> outgoing that is
[02:14] <g1bbs> anyone know what the hell Espresso is doing with Activity lifecycle when you run an entire suite of tests?
[02:15] <g1bbs> I'm getting all sorts of out of order onstart/onstop craziness.  Seems it tries to shut down the activity between tests but... doesnt
[02:15] <OerHeks> g1bbs, what is espresso?
[02:15] <nicomachus> OerHeks: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/espresso
[02:15] <g1bbs> Google Espresso.  UI testing framework
[02:15]  * nicomachus had to look it up too. no idea what it does.
[02:17] <kingdrone> I am getting system errors on my ubuntu 15-10 install, can someone help ?
[02:17] <nicomachus> kingdrone: what are the errors?
[02:18] <OerHeks> kingdrone, pastebin the errors and let us see
[02:18] <kingdrone> the system freezes at various times and also when I try to use firefox, it will freeze
[02:18] <OerHeks> croc, no clue how you would use apt-get without 80 and 443
[02:19] <jedix> nicomachus: have time for a quick kernel question?  Have you seen something like this before? http://pastebin.com/wZP1GmmB
[02:20] <nicomachus> jedix: no idea what I'm looking at here.
[02:20] <jedix> nicomachus: ah, earlier I was talking to TJ- about my bluetooth dongle not working..
[02:20] <jedix> thanks for looking
[02:20] <OerHeks> kingdrone, looks like heavy use of the system, what are the specs?
[02:21] <protn> folks how I can select entire text in nano
[02:21] <kingdrone> it’s a 4 gb dual core intel cpu, 500 gb drive, and a DVD burner
[02:21] <protn> so I can copy all text
[02:21] <protn> atm I can choose only what I see
[02:22] <kingdrone> I was able to do a install with ubuntu 15-10, but it was a different computer, I took the drive out and put it into the computer I want to boot from but it has been giving me errors
[02:22] <OerHeks> kingdrone, so what are the system errors? you described only freeses
[02:22] <nicomachus> protn: sometimes it's easier to just do "cat filename.txt" and then copy it from there. I don't use nano, so don't know for sure.
[02:23] <protn> true
[02:23] <OerHeks> kingdrone, oh, different computer, different videocard?
[02:23] <kingdrone> what do you want me to do, I’ve got a system prompt now on the machine
[02:23] <liunk> 大家好
[02:23] <OerHeks> nice to mention that afterwards...
[02:23] <nicomachus> is that chinese...?
[02:23] <liunk> yes
[02:23] <nicomachus> !cn | liunk
[02:23] <kingdrone> Yes, it was a different video setup, internal from the motherboard, do you think that’s the culprit ?
[02:24] <OerHeks> kingdrone, could well be, if the specs do not match, i would backup data and reinstall.
[02:26] <kingdrone> is it not possible to get an install from one machine and take it over to a different one ? Isn’t it possible to adjust some settting for the video stuff  ?
[02:26] <bazhang> !cloning | kingdrone
[02:27] <OerHeks> kingdrone, system prompt, i think it is a Grub issue,  not finding the UUID from the partitions
[02:27] <OerHeks> could be videocard too
[02:27] <m000gle> Is there any way to determine which processes are using GPU processor and GPU RAM, like how top or the system monitor do for the CPU?
[02:27] <bazhang> !info clonezilla
[02:28] <bazhang> m000gle, for what purpose
[02:28] <m000gle> I am running dual GTX 760, each with 2GB; but seem to be at about 60% GPU RAM usage simply with the Ubuntu 15.10 Unity desktop running
[02:28] <m000gle> That seems excessive, even with 4k monitors
[02:28] <kingdrone> I am going to install again, hopefully I can give more details soon
[02:29] <bijan_> can someone guide me towards which pc to buy to use with ubuntu? I would love to have the option to make it run with 3 4k displays
[02:29] <kingdrone> how do I do that apt-clone thingie, I am not that up on the apt-get stuff yet
[02:29] <bazhang> !hcl | bijan_ and ##hardware
[02:29] <bijan_> m000gle: high gpu ram usage isn't necessarily a bad thing, is it?
[02:30] <bazhang> kingdrone, saw the clonezill link or not
[02:31] <kingdrone> clonezilla you mean ?
[02:31] <bazhang> see it or not
[02:31] <m000gle> bijan_: Not necessarily, assuming no performance issues.  However, I have been troubleshooting another issue (where changing window focus leads to a brief stutter, most noticable when multitasking involves watching a video) and wasn't sure if the high GPU RAM or GPU usage were related.
[02:31] <Nicolas> Hey people I can't boot grub.  Im trying tu use the livecd to grub-install when im done doing so and having the boot flag on the grub partion It wont boot grub What im i doing wrong ?
[02:31] <kingdrone> I don’t see that
[02:32] <m000gle> bijan_: They may be completely unrelated, and I'm simply grasping at straws in terms of that original issue
[02:33] <kingdrone> I need to see that clonezilla  and want to do a few more tests, I will get back later
[02:33] <speedy__> what is a good language to help and handle fresh installs- like a scipt for the stuff install the most used programs and cli- I am wanting this so i can spin up 4 servers then nearly  exact way
[02:33] <Nicolas> Anyone ? :/
[02:33] <bijan_> m000gle: how many displays are you running?
[02:34] <speedy__> what did you ask Nicolas
[02:34] <Nicolas> Hey people I can't boot grub.  Im trying tu use the livecd to grub-install when im done doing so and having the boot flag on the grub partion It wont boot grub What im i doing wrong ?
[02:34] <m000gle> bijan_: Two 4k monitors, each 3840x2160, powered by dual GTX 760 nVidia cards on the latest proprietary drivers
[02:35] <bijan_> m000gle: did you check if stuttering occurs with only one monitor?
[02:35] <speedy__> ubcd is a good live os- what live cd are you using? Nicolas
[02:35] <m000gle> bijan_: The same issue existed when the monitors were each 1920x1200, with no discernible difference since the upgrade; so, the most obious concern (i.e. too many pixels) seems moot
[02:36] <m000gle> bijan_: I can give it a try with a single monitor
[02:36] <Nicolas> Just the ubuntu 15.04
[02:36] <m000gle> bijan_: Will you still be around following a reboot, while I test?
[02:36] <speedy__> also what is the os your trying to boot Nicolas
[02:36] <bijan_> m000gle: sure
[02:36] <Nicolas> ubuntu
[02:36] <m000gle> bijan_: Perfect.  I will be back, shortly.
[02:36] <bijan_> m000gle: cu :)
[02:36] <speedy__> i am guessing this is ubuntu that you installed? Nicolas
[02:38] <Nicolas> Yea. I installed it a few months ago in dual boot with windows 8 I upgraded to windows 10 recently and losed the ability to use grub, I then tried to use boot-repair tool and it basicly made everything go wrong.. lol
[02:38] <Nicolas> Now im stuck with no grub. I can however put the boot flag on my windows partition and i can boot windows but i want my ubuntu back! lol
[02:38] <fibes> yea windows bootloader is a pain
[02:39] <Nicolas> Fuck. it is.. .
[02:39] <Bashing-om> !grub
[02:39] <fibes> yay
[02:39] <Bashing-om> Nicolas: ^^ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub .
[02:40] <Nicolas> Cool thanks,.  But inormaly know my way around linux.. But thanks il go see that and il give it a try.. talk to you guys soon
[02:41] <Bashing-om> Nicolas: Win10 generally is UEFI .. big difference there from legacy .
[02:41] <m000gle> bijan_: It appears as if the same stutter exist while only a single 3840x2160 (4k) monitor is connected.  No better no worse =/
[02:42] <bijan_> m000gle: okay...
[02:42] <bijan_> m000gle: is it happening when playing a video and then switching windows?
[02:43] <Nicolas> Ohh..  If I installed ubuntu on non-UEFI will i still be able to just add the mbr loader in grub ?
[02:44] <m000gle> bijan_: Playing a video makes the stutter most apparent, as even a lost frame or three matters more than a window with otherwise static content; however, the stutter happens regardless.  This happens even with relatively low resolution videos.
[02:44] <Nicolas> @Bashing-om Ohh..  If I installed ubuntu on non-UEFI will i still be able to just add the mbr loader in grub ?
[02:45] <m000gle> bijan_: It happens every time I change window focus.  So, for example, a video is playing in window A, and I click to switch focus from window B to window C and the video will freeze for a split second.
[02:46] <bijan_> m000gle: which os version are you running?
[02:46] <bijan_> 14.04 or 15.10?
[02:46] <m000gle> 15.10 64-bit
[02:47] <m000gle> bijan_: I have also tested both the default nVidia driver version, right up to 358.16 with, again, no difference in the results
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Nicolas: Nope ... If Windows is installed UEFI then ubuntu must be installed in UEFI, certainly so if on the same hard drive . the 2 boot methods are not compatible .
[02:48] <bijan_> I guess it would make sense to create an issue for this.
[02:49] <Nicolas> @Bashing-om  Shit,.. So then this mean i have to re-install ubuntu and all ?!
[02:49] <barq_> I'm downloading UNEpic off of gog.com, and they're using a 310MB SHELL SCRIPT
[02:49] <m000gle> bijan_: Could you walk me through the steps?  As much as I've used Ubuntu for years, I've never actually submitted one.
[02:49] <barq_> How many wget commands
[02:49] <nicomachus> Nicolas: language.
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Nicolas: Most likely .. best await others advise who have the experience ... I mostly Windows illitterate .
[02:50] <bijan_> m000gle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[02:51] <bijan_> m000gle: are you running a video from file or via youtube?
[02:51] <bijan_> m000gle: is the video playback hardware accelerated or not
[02:53] <m000gle> bijan_: From a file (typically MP4 in either VLC or Videos) and flash using Chrome with GPU acceleration enabled both exhibit the same issue, neither better nor worse than the other
[02:54] <bijan_> m000gle: hmm... difficult to tell...
[02:54] <bijan_> m000gle: http://i.stack.imgur.com/XTgiI.jpg
[02:54] <bijan_> m000gle: in vlc
[02:55] <skreech_> Hello where can I pastebin images?
[02:57] <m000gle> bijan_: I don't see that specific setting in VLC.  However, I do see "hardware accelerated decoding" in Input/Codecs, and it is set to automatic.
[02:57] <nicomachus> !paste | skreech_
[02:58] <m000gle> bijan_: I also see "accelerated video output (overlay)", with a toottip indicating hardware acceleration, under Videos
[02:58] <m000gle> bijan_: The latter is obviously also checked
[03:07] <skreech_> Thanks nicomachus
[03:20] <pepo> hola
[03:22] <nicomachus> hi pepo.
[03:22] <meelax> hi guys, I'm using an ubuntu live USB on an iMac
[03:22] <meelax> i'm having trouble connecting the magic trackpad
[03:22] <meelax> i've read the wiki article and I got it to pait
[03:22] <meelax> pair*
[03:23] <nicomachus> meelax: this wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/AppleMagicTrackpad
[03:23] <meelax> but everytime I go to the bluetooth menu at the top and flip the "connected" switch it turns back off
[03:23] <meelax> nicomachus: yep
[03:24] <TBotNik> All, What is the best way, in BASH, to get the size of an inserted flash drive?  Examples please!
[03:24] <nicomachus> TBotNik: parted -l
[03:24] <meelax> but yeah
[03:24] <meelax> so anyways
[03:25] <meelax> I downloaded blueman and tried to connect it
[03:25] <meelax> and I clicked "trust" and then "connect to input service"
[03:25] <meelax> and it says "too many levels of symlinks"
[03:25] <nicomachus> meelax: easy on the enter key. put as much on one line as possible.
[03:26] <meelax> nicomachus: sorry. i'm used to chatting with friends on IRC, not tech support :P
[03:28] <meelax> when I click on "setup" in blueman, I click "proceed without pairing", then "connect to input service" and it says "device added but failed to connect"
[03:32] <Gaming4JC> Hello, does anyone know of a good calendar application? I remember using (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Sunbird) in the past, but it is discontinued
[03:32] <H3ruS> i create a new release using raspberry ubuntu wiki script
[03:32] <H3ruS> where the img file stay ?
[03:32] <H3ruS> bmaptool create -o "$BASEDIR/${DATE}-ubuntu-${RELEASE}.bmap" "$BASEDIR/${DATE}-ubuntu-${RELEASE}.img"
[03:34] <TBotNik> nicomachus: So using "parted -l" in bash how do I parse that for just the size without all the trash verbage?
[03:35] <nicomachus> TBotNik: you can paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com and link here if you'd like someone else to take a look.
[03:35] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Sure but in pastebin.com
[03:35] <nicomachus> TBotNik: but I'm sorry, it's likely under "sudo fdisk -l" not "parted -l"
[03:47] <skreech_> Hello werewolf_1
[03:48] <TBotNik> nicomachus: PB at: http://pastebin.com/JS3PkYZt  Includes old BASH routine, no longer working!
[03:48] <werewolf_1> hi
[03:48] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Put both the parted -l and the fdisk -l in there!
[03:49] <skreech_> Добро пожаловат :-D
[03:49] <nicomachus> !ru | skreech_
[03:49] <werewolf_1> O:-)
[03:49] <werewolf_1> what if i dont want help in russian?
[03:49] <nicomachus> then you can get help in English here.
[03:49] <skreech_> nicomachus: I'm getting there. Just introducing IRC
[03:50] <nicomachus> TBotNik: looks like it is 4gb
[03:50] <TBotNik> nicomachus: I'm looking to parse the info, currently on the 128G flash but have other sizes like 1G , 2G, 4G, 16G, 32G, 64G and the 128G
[03:50] <werewolf_1> can i get help with netflix on my ubuntu
[03:50] <nicomachus> werewolf_1: what's the problem?
[03:51] <nicomachus> TBotNik: what do you mean you need to parse it?
[03:51] <werewolf_1> i googled how to make it work did all the steps, ill share the link , but it still wont work
[03:51] <nicomachus> werewolf_1: what browser are you using?
[03:51] <werewolf_1> i tried with chrome
[03:52] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Well have both the 128G and 4G inserted right now, but trying to get the script to find the 128G.  Guess it needs to parse both then see which is largest!
[03:52] <nicomachus> werewolf_1: as far as I know it should work fine in Chrome.
[03:52] <nicomachus> TBotNik: ok, then you know the sizes. What else do you need to do?
[03:52] <nicomachus> werewolf_1: is it giving you an error?
[03:52] <werewolf_1> it says oops something went wrong
[03:53] <nicomachus> werewolf_1: sounds like a Chrome error, not an ubuntu error.
[03:55] <TBotNik> nicomachus: The Bash script has to run in CRON, no human interaction.  Must determine the size of all inserted flash drive and choose the largest, this part of the scripting is for a backup routine, which must always look for the largest "REMOVEABLE" drive.
[03:55] <nicomachus> TBotNik: sounds like an issue for #bash, not #ubuntu.
[03:56] <TBotNik> nicomachus: I posted there and no response.  Must all be sleeping!
[03:56] <skreech_> werewolf_1: what is your link?
[03:57] <pocketprotector> http://pastebin.ca/3331537 <-- Trusty should have 3.19.x kernel.. so the release applicability seems incorrect.. thoughts?
[03:57] <nicomachus> TBotNik: ok, well, sorry this isn't bash support.
[03:57] <skreech_> It's ##bash
[03:57] <nicomachus> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[03:57] <nicomachus> pocketprotector: ^
[03:58] <skreech_> TBotNik: I would suspect that you could parse the ISB stack or the hwinfo to get the sizes
[03:58] <skreech_>  actually even fdisk should help
[03:58] <nicomachus> skreech_: TBotNik: regardless, it's not ubuntu support so not on-topic here.
[03:59] <pocketprotector> !info linux-image-generic wily
[03:59] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i'd use lsblk if you're sure they only have 1 partition
[03:59] <werewolf_1> i also tried  this http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/  and this http://itsfoss.com/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[04:00] <TBotNik> nicomachus: Funny #bash finally responded and said not a "BASH" issue as that is OS specific as to what command to issue in finding the flash size!
[04:01] <nicomachus> ...which is fdisk...
[04:03] <TBotNik> EriC^^: lsblk is much more condensed for sure!
[04:06] <TBotNik> All, OK updated the PB and added result from "lsblk" per EriC^^!
[04:07] <skreech_> TBotNik: lsusb as well :)
[04:10] <skreech_> Hmm Let me see if that PPA is still there
[04:10] <TBotNik> skreech_: lsusb gives no sizes
[04:12] <TBotNik> all, the lsblk shows the 128G as 115.3G and the 4G as 3.8G, close but no perfect match, must have to supervisory consumption!
[04:12] <EriC^^> TBotNik: try this lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}'
[04:13] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Do you know what  version of Ubuntu you have?
[04:13] <skreech_>  !version
[04:13] <EriC^^> TBotNik: sorry
[04:13] <werewolf_1> 14 04
[04:13] <EriC^^> TBotNik: try this lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print $1}'
[04:14] <EriC^^> crap nevermind
[04:14] <nicomachus> lol
[04:14] <werewolf_1> lol
[04:14] <skreech_> werewolf_1: :-)
[04:14] <EriC^^> TBotNik: first one returns the largest size of the disk, not the name though
[04:15] <goddard> how can i use policykit files with qt creator?
[04:16] <u258> going to buy a new laptop for coding/development jobs. love ubuntu. what laptop would be good?
[04:17] <EriC^^> TBotNik: this is the ugliest * ive ever seen but it'll work
[04:17] <EriC^^> grep $(lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}') <(lsblk -b)
[04:17] <cfhowlett> u258 too broad a question
[04:17] <EriC^^> sorry i dunno awk that well so i had to mix and match and ugly hack it
[04:17] <TBotNik> EriC^^: your cmd string returns: 1000204886016 which I assume will fit into the formula in the script to yield the actual GB?
[04:17] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Can you open a terminal ?
[04:18] <u258> cfhowlett: just recommend a normal one.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> "normal" ... yeah.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[04:18] <EriC^^> TBotNik: yeah, try the last one, it should return the line from lsblk with the largest disk, test thoroughly though as on my pc the largest is at top
[04:19] <u258> cfhowlett: is it easily to install ubuntu  on macbook? or it is a waste to buy mac to use ubuntu
[04:19] <cfhowlett> !mac | u258, I've seen it done.  I would say yes only if you plan to dual boot with OSX.  Jusy my opinion.
[04:20] <u258> thanks for above
[04:20] <cfhowlett> u258, try this page as well.  FWIW, I bought the dell m3800 developer edition.  comparable to a mac pro.  I am most happy.
[04:21] <TBotNik> EriC^^: Was trying to paste into my calculator but it's fighting me, so will run in script instead and echo result!
[04:22] <EriC^^> TBotNik: try grep $(lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}') <(lsblk -b) | cut -d" " -f1
[04:22] <EriC^^> it should return the largest disk
[04:23] <skreech_> werewolf_1: You know where your terminal is?
[04:23] <skreech_> !shell
[04:25] <IMeasureYou> the terminal is the power
[04:25] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i have an idea about a simpler way
[04:25] <skreech_> IMeasureYou: <3 terminal
[04:25] <EriC^^> you could just use sort
[04:26] <werewolf_1> i do
[04:26] <skreech_> werewolf_1: if you can open that type into "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pipelight/stable"
[04:26] <EriC^^> TBotNik: lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1
[04:26] <EriC^^> way cleaner
[04:27] <werewolf_1> i think i did that before
[04:27] <skreech_> That shoudl let you know if it is setup.
[04:27] <Eagle1776> Hi
[04:27] <skreech_> Hi Eagle1776
[04:27] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Alright and you installed pipelight ?
[04:29] <Eagle1776> skreech_ im looking to get into linux for the first time. I downloaded linux mint and was wondering what the best program to burn it to a iso is. I downloaded this program called imgburn and my Antivirus started going crazy.
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Eagle1776, sorry.. no mint support here. this is ubuntu.
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !mint > Eagle1776
[04:30] <EriC^^> TBotNik: it returns them in human-readable format
[04:30] <luketheduke0> dd
[04:31] <skreech_> Eagle1776: What OS are you on?
[04:32] <TBotNik> EriC^^: So in BASH how do I assign this to a var?  What I've tried so far isn't working
[04:32] <Eagle1776> skreech_ i am on Windows 8.1
[04:32] <skreech_> Eagle1776: have you ever burnt an ISO before?
[04:32] <luketheduke0> TBotNik, assign what to a variable?
[04:32] <EriC^^> ^ yeah
[04:32] <EriC^^> the largest disk?
[04:33] <luketheduke0> skreech_, it's common among winblows users
[04:33] <Eagle1776> skreech_ no I have never burn an iso before
[04:33] <skreech_> werewolf_1: try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pipelight-multi"
[04:33] <cfhowlett> Eagle1776, ask ##windows about burning software
[04:33] <nolsen> How to keep resolv.conf from changing the dns servers I set?
[04:33] <EriC^^> TBotNik: do you want the largest disk or largest partition?
[04:33] <nolsen> It keeps changing my 2 lines to 1 "nameserver 127.0.0.1"
[04:33] <TBotNik> EriC^^, luketheduke0: your cmd string: lsblk -b | awk '/disk/' | awk 'NR==1 {min=$4; max=$4; next} max < $4 {max=$4} min > $4 {min=$4} END {print max}'
[04:34] <skreech_> Eagle1776: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:34] <EriC^^> TBotNik: nevermind that one, i came up with an easier way above
[04:34] <EriC^^> using sort -h
[04:34] <EriC^^> do you want the largest partition or largest disk? TBotNik
[04:35] <skreech_> werewolf_1: it should either say it is already they latest version or ask if it should install
[04:35] <TBotNik> EriC^^: formula convert to G is Size x 512 / 1000000
[04:35] <skreech_> Eagle1776: Let me know if you need more infor than that
[04:35] <skreech_> nolsen: disable DHCP ?
[04:35] <Eagle1776> Oh
[04:35] <werewolf_1> its already the latest version
[04:35] <nolsen> skreech_: I need DHCP.
[04:35] <werewolf_1> i did it today
[04:35] <Eagle1776> skreech_ ok thanks for your help
[04:36] <skreech_> Eagle1776: are you putting it on a CD or a USB stick?
[04:36] <goddard> how can i use policykit files with qt creator?
[04:36] <TBotNik> EriC^^: The largest inserted flash or Removable drive!
[04:36] <skreech_> werewolf_1: And you installed the netflix-desktop ?
[04:36] <EriC^^> so you want the largest disk
[04:36] <Eagle1776> skreech_ i am putting it on a dvd
[04:36] <werewolf_1> yes!
[04:36] <EriC^^> i dunno if it's removable or not
[04:37] <werewolf_1> but it is not working
[04:37] <EriC^^> TBotNik: largestdisk=$(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2)
[04:37] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Alright so are you using that or viewing in the browser ?
[04:37] <werewolf_1> and not opening
[04:37] <EriC^^> that's how you can assign it to a variable TBotNik
[04:37] <werewolf_1> i see that i have it but when i click on it its not opening
[04:37] <skreech_> Eagle1776: alright then you should be able to simply right click it and chooseburn image
[04:37] <TBotNik> EriC^^: I'm running 1TB, 2TB, 3TB and 4TB HDs, so care less about them!
[04:38] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Ah ok can you try type netflix-desktop in the terminal?
[04:38] <EriC^^> then you need some way of only checking the flash drives
[04:39] <werewolf_1>  netflix-desktop
[04:39] <werewolf_1> fixme:winediag:start_process Wine Staging 1.9.0 is a testing version containing experimental patches.
[04:39] <werewolf_1> fixme:winediag:start_process Please mention your exact version when filing bug reports on winehq.org.
[04:40] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Hmmm Ok so it's doing something :)
[04:40] <werewolf_1> ?
[04:40] <werewolf_1> its not doing anything else
[04:40] <skreech_> It said starting process So I guess it's doing something ?
[04:41] <werewolf_1> no its not
[04:41] <skreech_> That's the only thing it said?
[04:41] <werewolf_1> yes
[04:41] <skreech_> hmm
[04:41] <skreech_> can you open another terminal ?
[04:42] <skreech_> I just want to see what version of wine you have. It says there you should have 1.9
[04:42] <werewolf_1> i did open
[04:42] <skreech_> "apt-cache show wine" should work
[04:43] <EriC^^> TBotNik: do the disks ever change? you could exclude the 2 3 4tb in the search
[04:43] <werewolf_1> Architecture: i386
[04:43] <werewolf_1> Source: wine1.6
[04:43] <werewolf_1> Version: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4
[04:43] <werewolf_1> Depends: wine1.6
[04:44] <TBotNik> EriC^^: The flashes change constantly!  Each tech has his own flash and must run all backups to his flash, whether "daily", "weekly" "monthly" or "system" level backups!
[04:45] <EriC^^> i mean the hard disks
[04:45] <TBotNik> I have 500 techs, so is a real problem!
[04:45] <EriC^^> i mean the hard disks on the pc..
[04:46] <TBotNik> EriC^^: Not one PC backing up, but a system of 8 Servers and sales floor of 200+ pcs!
[04:46] <skreech_> werewolf_1: Hmm ok so maybe it needs a new version ?
[04:46] <cfhowlett> TBotNik, perhaps ask #ubuntu-server about this??
[04:47] <skreech_> Let me try figure this out
[04:47] <TBotNik> EriC^^: Working toward combining the backups with GIT to keep everything in incremental small batches tracking only changed files!  Not there yet!  Little bit of a challenge!
[04:48] <skreech_> TBotNik:  :)
[04:48] <EriC^^> TBotNik: if you're sure of the flash drive sizes, you could exclude everything that isn't <128gb from your search
[04:49] <TBotNik> EriC^^, skreech, cfhowlett, only 1 Linux machine in the  entire building and you know MicroSuck, what I'm doing not possible there!
[04:50] <skreech_> EriC^^: Not a very robust solution. As soon as they release a drive bigger than 128GB it would need to be rewritten
[04:50] <EriC^^> yeah that's true
[04:52] <TBotNik> EriC^^: I listed the flash sizes earlier, that range from 1GB up to 128GB, but going to but limits on allowing anything below 32GB, as data alone can crash a 16GB, which I did and exceeding size on a flash totally toasts it!  Found out the hard way!
[04:53] <TBotNik> EriC^^: I have to know the size, because I can then write the scripting to limit the size of the backup, making intelligent decisions about "pertainent" data!
[04:55] <TBotNik> EriC^^: If the tech only backs up his personal date from the "user" folders that usually runs under 4 GB!  But if they are backing up DB dumps to re-install on their Laptops, usually over 16GB!
[04:59] <TBotNik> EriC^^: I'm trying to write "The Perfect Backup" script, which at System Level is running either clonezilla or Ghost, but modular in design so all the different scripts can either work independently or together!  This script is call "drive-size.sh" because all it does is report the size of the largest "removable" drive, whiich normally is flash but can also be an external USB HD, usually for the Monthly and System backups!
[05:00] <skreech_> TBotNik: Are you doing it all in bash ?
[05:01] <TBotNik> skreech_: Currently Yes!
[05:03] <TBotNik> All, The old cmd:  /sys/block/sd[cdef]/removable actually saw the "removeable" tag so would only process on those drives, but this is no longer supported in Ubuntu!
[05:03] <skreech_> TBotNik: I'm going to say that you will want to hang out in ##bash
[05:04] <goddard> how can i use policykit files with qt creator?
[05:04] <TBotNik> skreech_: I only got one answer there, but need to recheck them!
[05:04] <skreech_> Since Backup has been going on since we stopped using punched cards It's obviously not a solved problem but doing low level parsing is going to be something ongoing
[05:04] <EriC^^> TBotNik: this is getting a bit long
[05:04] <EriC^^> for one line
[05:05] <skreech_> TBotNik: as a hint they are very very rude there but almost always end up answering your question
[05:05] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i guess you could make one script that parses all the drives and makes a list of the usb drives alone, then pass that to the sort command to get the largest
[05:05] <skreech_> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ is what you want to spend your spare time reading
[05:05] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i found on google that this'll tell you if it's a usb readlink -f /sys/class/block/sdb/
[05:06] <skreech_> EriC^^: that would be my solution though I don't know if the newer Serial drives come up as USB since the spec is very similar
[05:06] <EriC^^> my ext usb hdd says /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1
[05:06] <EriC^^> internal hdd says /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1
[05:07] <EriC^^> maybe test it out TBotNik
[05:07] <skreech_> Then just parse for usb ?
[05:10] <EriC^^> TBotNik: you could do this for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i; done | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2
[05:10] <EriC^^> i can't test it out though cause i only have 1 usb
[05:12] <Carlos31> hola
[05:13] <skreech_> HOla
[05:14] <TBotNik> EriC^^: Not sure as not getting an output from that!
[05:14] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i think i see a bug
[05:16] <TBotNik> EriC^^: Teamwork is always the best work! Cheers!
[05:16] <EriC^^> TBotNik: try for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2; done
[05:18] <__Mike__> hello all
[05:18] <__Mike__> how do you update my version of ubuntu, from 14.04 to 15.10
[05:19] <TBotNik> EriC^^: OK that tells me what drive it is attached as, which is sdc, but get no size with that!
[05:19] <cfhowlett> __Mike__, 1.  are you sure you need to go to 15.10?  2.  eolupdate: 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10  3.  wait until April: 14.04 > 16.04  OR download 15.10 and do a clean install
[05:20] <__Mike__> aaaahhh, ok, I will just wait :-)
[05:20] <__Mike__> Everything is great
[05:20] <__Mike__> was just more pondering the question
[05:21] <cfhowlett> __Mike__, current version is 14.04.3  ... you have what?
[05:21] <EriC^^> TBotNik: yeah just the largest flash drive
[05:21] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i mean only the flash drives
[05:21] <TBotNik> EriC^^: the cmd: largestdisk=$(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2) gives me the largest 1.5TB HD but does not filter by the "removable" tag!
[05:22] <EriC^^> TBotNik: then use lsblk | grep -Ev $(tr '\n' '|' < /tmp/usb) | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2
[05:22] <EriC^^> TBotNik: yes..
[05:22] <satan-> can i fix input/output error without deleting anything on my hdd?
[05:22] <TBotNik> EriC^^: and that also is connection point, sda, not size!
[05:22] <cfhowlett> satan-, i/o errors typically are caused by failing hardware.
[05:23] <EriC^^> TBotNik: we agreed that you could parse the usb's using readlink first to get which one is a flash drive and then run the sort command to get the largest
[05:23] <EriC^^> TBotNik: for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2; done > /tmp/usb
[05:23] <EriC^^> that will give you the list of flash drives
[05:23] <EriC^^> TBotNik: biggestflashdrive=$(lsblk | grep -Ev $(tr '\n' '|' < /tmp/usb) | awk '/disk/ {print $4" "$1}' | sort -h | tail -1 | cut -d" " -f2)
[05:24] <EriC^^> that will give you the biggest flash drive, test extensively as i didn't test much cause i dont have 2 usb's
[05:25] <skreech_> !upgrade
[05:27] <EriC^^> TBotNik: oh actually i spot a typo in the first one
[05:27] <EriC^^> TBotNik: rm /tmp/usb; for i in $(lsblk | awk '/disk/ {print $1}'); do readlink -f /sys/class/block/$i | grep usb | grep -o "block.*" | cut -d"/" -f2; done >> /tmp/usb
[05:28] <EriC^^> use this instead
[05:30] <EriC^^> oh nevermind, it wasn't a typo, i'm getting sleepy, off to bed
[05:30] <EriC^^> test thoroughly
[05:33] <TBotNik> EriC^^: Thanks!  I'm with you enough for tonight!
[05:34] <abes> Question: I am using oracle virtualbox with latest ubuntu as guest OS along with samba to be able to copy files from my Windows 7 host machine - when I copy and paste certain files they appear blank (i.e. I copy 9kb index.html from Windows and the file does exist in Ubuntu but is blank). Any thoughts?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> !vbox > abes
[05:35] <EriC^^> TBotNik: i just realized i made a mistake in the second one that gets the largest, after lsblk it uses /tmp/usb to exclude the ones in the list ( the usb's ) you need to only include those
[05:35] <abes> cfhowlett: I am not sure I follow. Do you believe that the issue is due to the fact that I am running it in a VM in particular?
[05:36] <cfhowlett> abes, I seem to recall that copying between host to guest via vbox requires a particular setting.  #vbox would know more.
[05:37] <abes> cfhowlett: thank you for your help
[05:38] <cfhowlett> happy2help! abes
[05:40] <akik> abes: there's also the shared folders functionality. have you used it?
[05:41] <akik> abes: you can share a folder from the host to the guest through vbox
[05:42] <cfhowlett> abes, this ^^ works.  I share my music files
[05:43] <virgosun> hi all
[05:43] <virgosun> my fstab parse error
[05:43] <virgosun> can any one care lo stare
[05:44] <virgosun> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[05:44] <virgosun> #
[05:44] <virgosun> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[05:44] <virgosun> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to nam$
[05:44] <virgosun> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[05:44] <virgosun> #
[05:45] <terrasapien> TBotNik: this will return your largest disks: t=$(lsblk -b | awk '{print $4}' | sort -n | tail -1);lsblk -b | grep -A2 $t | grep -v disk
[05:46] <virgosun> ?
[05:49] <EriC^^> TBotNik: no problem, cheers :)
[05:51] <EriC^^> terrasapien: he wants the largest flash drive, excluding internal disks
[05:52] <OerHeks> virgosun, use paste.ubuntu.com please
[05:52] <cfhowlett> !paste > virgosun
[05:54] <terrasapien> EriC^^: Ah, okay, I'll poke at it a while
[05:58] <sheepgeek> hello
[06:01] <nolsen> I can't seem to figure out why I can't set my custom DNS servers and still use DHCP.
[06:03] <abes> cfhowlett: hey man you still around?
[06:03] <cfhowlett> abes, yeah.  what's up?
[06:05] <abes> cfhowlett: so... something really bizzare is happening... I copied a .zip over FTP to avoid any samba/vm related issues, unpacked it and I see all my files are ok... I made another directory "original-files" and copied ALL files to it as well - the file index.html in /home/abes always has 0kb... I do rm index.html, then cp original-files/index.html (verified that this one has 9kb and the content
[06:05] <abes> is right) and the newly copied index.html still has 0kb!!!!
[06:06] <nolsen> dnsmasq[813]: using nameserver 127.0.1.1#53 <= Is there a way to prevent that?
[06:06] <cfhowlett> abes, that is indeed bizarre.  I must claim ignorance.  Restate the issue for the channel and let someone with pertinent address it.
[06:08] <abes> cfhowlett: when copying an .html file from one directory to another (cp /home/file.html /home/other) the resulting file is empty (0kb) while to original file has 9k and contains the correct HTML
[06:08] <nolsen> hello?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> abes, right.  don't address this to me as others will assume I know what to do with it.
[06:08] <cfhowlett> nolsen, welcome to ubuntu support.  ask.
[06:09] <nolsen> ...
[06:09] <nolsen> I already asked.
[06:09] <cfhowlett> nolsen, ah!  then be patient please.
[06:09] <abes> cfhowlett: therefore I should assume that you don't, correct?
[06:10] <skreech__> !upgrade
[06:10] <cfhowlett> abes, let me be emphatic - tis over my head, Cap'n!
[06:10] <skreech__> abes: What are you doing?
[06:13] <nolsen> Actually, why /etc/resolv.conf keeps going back to 127.0.1.1 when I set it to 8.8.8.8?
[06:14] <abes> cfhowlett: ok, thanks, I appreciate it. One thing I noticed is when I open the copied (empty) file with vi and add a random string then try to save I get a warning saying the file has been changed while I had it open, making me believe that it is somehow being constantly cleared... it's just that one file... strange!
[06:15] <OerHeks> nolsen, if you read the resolv.conf, you know that is not the way to do that, use network manager, set it up dhcp without dns.
[06:17] <abes> cfhowlett: you were right... it was beyond this channel... I had a stupid npm watcher running that breks stuff.... sorry for your trouble!
[06:17] <OerHeks> nolsen, see http://imgur.com/orsrOrj
[06:17] <cfhowlett> abes, no trouble!  what is "npm watcher" again?
[06:17] <OerHeks> nolsen, then you can add your dns below that
[06:17] <nolsen> OerHeks: That's a per-access point thing.
[06:19] <OerHeks> nolsen, so? setup all your connections that way? no so hard to do
[06:19] <satinder> hi
[06:19] <satinder> I am working on shell scripting
[06:19] <nolsen> OerHeks: ...
[06:20] <satinder> I want just verification of my concept is good or bad
[06:21] <satinder> Is while loop in script is good or bad if my task is repeating and that task is running 24 x 7
[06:21] <somsip> !ot | satinder
[06:21] <somsip> satinder: so maybe you should ask in #bash
[06:21] <satinder> okk sorry
[06:22] <satinder> sorry
[06:24] <nolsen> OerHeks: That would be alot of work to do per access point.
[06:24] <abes> cfhowlett: npm is a node package manager and a watcher basically is suppsoed to execute a task if there is a change in the file/dir it's watching - general purpose is when you are working with say CSS and JavaScript whenever you save it will re-run the build process (minification, etc.) and reload the page in your browser so you can see the changes the "instantly" directly from a production-ready
[06:24] <abes> build
[06:25] <cfhowlett> abes, ... right.  to the wiki for me.  thanks.
[06:26] <OerHeks> nolsen what do you suggest? we don't do that for you. it is just a few mouseclicks and a dns paste.
[06:26] <crazyhorse18> is there anyway to encrypt / prevent access to a running ubuntu volume on aws?
[06:28] <skreech__> nolsen: Hi
[06:28] <eagles0513875> hey guys how can i change my setting from downloading and upgrading to LTS releases to also upgrading to intermediate releases please?
[06:28] <somsip> crazyhorse18: prevent from where?
[06:29] <skreech__> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-switch-to-opendns-in-ubuntu-for-faster-browsing
[06:29] <crazyhorse18> somsip: from aws employees
[06:29] <skreech__> abes: are you copying over FTP ?
[06:29] <somsip> !encrypt | crazyhorse18
[06:29] <eagles0513875> !upgrade
[06:30] <crazyhorse18> somsip: in us-east you can enable EBS encryption.. but in the region i'm trying to run it on you can't
[06:30] <somsip> crazyhorse18: that's an AWS function, not an Ubuntu function, so not supported here
[06:30] <eagles0513875> does the upgrade link the bot provided does taht only upgrade you from one LTS to another LTS
[06:31] <somsip> eagles0513875: you want to upgrade from LTS to non-LTS 3 months before the next LTS is due out?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> Eagle1776, if true ^^ unwise ...
[06:31] <eagles0513875> somsip: yes i dont mind having to upgrade again in 3 months time.
[06:32] <eagles0513875> cfhowlett: why do you say that
[06:32] <eagles0513875> im on 14.04 at the moment
[06:32] <somsip> eagles0513875: http://askubuntu.com/questions/240160/can-ubuntu-server-10-04-4-lts-be-upgraded-to-non-lts
[06:32] <OerHeks> eagles0513875, you have to go from 14.04 > 14.10 ( eol ) > 15.04 ( eol ) > 15.10 ...
[06:32] <cfhowlett> 14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04
[06:32] <eagles0513875> :-/
[06:33] <OerHeks> i would do fresh install. much faster.
[06:33] <eagles0513875> ok so wait until 16.0u4 then change
[06:33] <eagles0513875> i think ill do that then
[06:40] <zalatan> ravi
[06:44] <bob2017> hey… is k1rk around?
[06:46] <potatoe> Hello, I've a question, how is software packaged with LTS releases like 14.04 optimized for newer hardware? Like do you guys build for core-avx etc?
[06:46] <potatoe> I am not asking about how I can do it myself but I want to know about software packaged within apt
[06:46] <K1rk> Sup bob2017
[06:47] <bob2017> k1rk: hey thanks for your help last night.  by setting fbcon=map:1 on the kernel command line, i get to the point where it shows me a text login screen. but, before i can login, all three screens go black except they show a cursor, that doesn’t flash, in the upper-left corner.
[06:47] <bob2017> i don’t see anything in the logs that gives me any ideas
[06:49] <K1rk> hmm so you get a TTY for a bit then it disappears?
[06:50] <bob2017> k1rk: yeah, just long enough for me to notice its there and get excited.  and when it disappears, there is a cursor in the upper left, but it doesn’t flash
[06:51] <K1rk> bob2017, sounds to me like something's taking over the screen, like maybe an X session is trying (and failing) to start.
[06:51] <bob2017> k1rk: yeah thats what it sounds like to me too, but it does that even with gfxpayload=text and gfx=text both set
[06:53] <K1rk> bob2017, there was a time when I knew enough about the boot process that I could customize the way X launched and stuff, but that was all pre-systemd, I'm not sure how things might be different now.
[06:53] <bob2017> k1rk: actually, the one thing i do see, is that the xorg.failsafe.log *still* says that “more than one possible primary device” was found, then it picks the nvidia instead of the ati
[06:54] <K1rk> Your version of ubuntu has systemd right bob2017 ?
[06:54] <bob2017> k1rk: its off the latest livecd so i hope so
[06:55] <bob2017> k1rk: nouveau is the one for nvidia, right?
[06:55] <akik> K1rk: do you know how to get back the 80x24 consold for the boot phase?
[06:55] <K1rk> akik, no idea what you're talking about lol
[06:55] <K1rk> bob2017, yeah that is right.
[06:56] <bob2017> k1rk: then that’s what’s happening.  it keeps trying to start the nvidia instead of starting the ATI.  It’s trying to use the wrong video card, which has no monitors connected.
[06:56] <shafox> hi i have copied one of the init script file and named it different but when i try to run it doesnt show anything in the terminal .
[06:56] <K1rk> bob2017, getting a little sketchy here with my expertise...but on RHEL there's the concept of "systemd targets", you set the systemd target to graphical or not graphical, perhaps could try setting the systemd target so you get a text console?
[06:56] <bob2017> k1rk: how would i do that?
[06:56] <shafox> lemme know what information you need i will provide
[06:56] <akik> K1rk: ubuntu changes from 80x24 virtual console to a higher resolution fbconsole during boot
[06:56] <bob2017> k1rk: (also i think we may be close, if we can just tell X which graphics card to use...)
[06:57] <bob2017> akik: do you have updog installed?
[06:58] <K1rk> bob2017, can you remove the card you're not using?
[06:58] <akik> bob2017: no, what is that?
[06:58] <bob2017> k1rk: i really, really, really don’t want to lol…  its a pain in the rear of serious proportions
[06:58] <bob2017> akik: what’s what?
[06:58] <K1rk> bob2017, the one you want to use is the ATI?
[06:58] <bob2017> k1rk: yes.  (the nvidia is only for deep learning training.)
[06:58] <K1rk> bob2017, maybe blacklist nouveau driver so it doesn't load?
[06:59] <akik> bob2017: you just asked me about updog
[06:59] <bob2017> k1rk: would that tell it to use the other device though?  i could try it i guess…
[06:59] <K1rk> bob2017, to do that you'd want to add the line "blacklist nouveau" to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and then try to boot.
[06:59] <bob2017> akik: so what are you asking?
[06:59] <K1rk> bob2017, I think X would ignore the card because no driver is loaded...
[06:59] <akik> bob2017: you just asked me about updog
[07:00] <bob2017> akik: goddammit you’re supposed to say “what’s updog” so i can say “n’much, dawg, ‘sup wit u?”
[07:00] <K1rk> bob2017, unfortunately my deepest knowledge is in non-GUI systems, but I have done this nouveau blacklist as part of installing the normal nVidia driver.  However if you blacklist the driver and don't load an nvidia driver, it should just make that card have no driver.
[07:00] <bob2017> k1rk: you don’t think it’ll conclude that it just can’t ifnd a driver and fail?
[07:00] <akik> bob2017: i'm not american yo
[07:00] <K1rk> bob2017, got anything to lose by trying it? :P
[07:00] <bob2017> k1rk: that’s a good point.  I’ll be back in a few minutes :)
[07:00] <K1rk> Machine doesn't boot anyway right? hehe
[07:01] <K1rk> I think blacklisting the nvidia driver will stop X from thinking there's a usable nvidia card
[07:09] <CinnamonRickRoll> heyo
[07:10] <bob2017> k1rk:  I am *not* speaking to you from an IRC client running on ubuntu :p
[07:10] <K1rk> hmm?
[07:11] <K1rk> no luck?
[07:11] <bob2017> k1rk: It didn’t work :p same thing happened
[07:11] <bob2017> and i couldn’t even get akik to ask what’s updog
[07:12] <bob2017> k1rk: which log are we most interested in now?
[07:14] <K1rk> bob2017, are you still seeing that duplicate graphics card in x log?
[07:14] <Guest83827> jlk
[07:15] <Guest83827> mairypoppinz.weebly.com
[07:15] <Guest83827> hi guys i need help with my audio
[07:15] <Guest83827> Im using lmms studio and auddscity
[07:15] <bob2017> k1rk: Im not entirely sure.  The x logs aren’t timestamped.  This time the xorg.1.log got a recent write, not just xorg.failsafe.log.  i’m going through them now, and xorg.1. shows both video cards and it also shows nouveau being loaded, but i’m not sure if it was this boot
[07:16] <Guest83827> audacity
[07:16] <cfhowlett> Guest83827, #opensourcemusicians
[07:16] <K1rk> bob2017, could always move those logs out of the way and try again
[07:17] <bob2017> k1rk: that’s only going to tell us if the blacklisting nouveau worked.  do we have an option if it didn’t work?
[07:17] <linuxhp> hi frnds .is any body help me for to create hotspot in ubuntu 14.04.
[07:18] <patrickxxgreen> commNDS
[07:18] <patrickxxgreen> commands
[07:19] <bob2017> k1rk: shouldn’t setting text on the kernel command line tell it not to load X at all?
[07:20] <K1rk> bob2017, I believe it should yeah
[07:20] <K1rk> Honestly I've never tried to make X not load on a GUI system lol
[07:20] <bob2017> k1rk: it isn't
[07:20] <K1rk> If I didn't want X I would install a command line only distro like server edition.
[07:20] <bob2017> k1rk: you kids and your GUI’s on unix-based systems...
[07:20] <patrickxxgreen> #chat
[07:20] <bob2017> back in my day we had two colors, black and green, and we liked it!
[07:21] <K1rk> bob2017, have you considered starting from CLI and building your system?  Like ubuntu server edition or mini.iso install
[07:21] <K1rk> That should give you more control over the process and in the process you might discover what's going wrong.
[07:22] <K1rk> If you install from mini.iso you don't have to install an X environment at all
[07:22] <K1rk> You could still install it later from apt, set it up yourself
[07:22] <K1rk> bob2017, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[07:22] <bob2017> k1rk:  i was just thinking that… but the whole point of this exercise is to switch specirfically to ubuntu because that’s the only OS that a particular piece of software will compile on, which I need (hierarchical softmax for torch).  so i don’t want to deviate from the baseline configuration
[07:23] <K1rk> bob2017, highly doubt your software will care what GUI or window manager you're using lol, the mini.iso isn't any less Ubuntu
[07:23] <bob2017> k1rk: consider that the software is tied into te GPU, yeah it may actually care
[07:24] <K1rk> There's nothing sacred about the GUI
[07:24] <K1rk> Installing the GUI from scratch would help you understand that
[07:24] <K1rk> lol
[07:24] <bob2017> k1rk:  true, but i don’t think i could even build torch without a working qt installation
[07:24] <bob2017> k1rk: i agree with your point as a matter of principle, but as a matter of this particular software package, i’m not confident in it.
[07:26] <K1rk> What exactly do you hope to accomplish after you disable X?
[07:26] <K1rk> You'll still have no gui
[07:26] <K1rk> lol
[07:27] <bob2017> k1rk:  well if i can get into the system i figure i’ll be able to get X working
[07:27] <bob2017> k1rk: but wait a sec… i found a crash file from an hour ago!
[07:28] <K1rk> tbh I've never encountered the issue you're facing as a result of having 2 graphics cards.  I once ran a Ubuntu system with 2 separate, different, non-SLI'ed graphics cards
[07:28] <K1rk> And I had monitors on both with desktop environment on everything at once
[07:29] <bob2017> k1rk: yes i agree with you what i’m experiencing means something isn’t working right
[07:30] <K1rk> Another possible option might be can you disable the interface slot holding the unused graphics card?  Sometimes this is an option in the BIOS
[07:30] <bob2017> k1rk: not on a mac pro.  ok i deleted the logs and i’ll try it again… any suggestions for what to try if i do end up logged in to a CLI?
[07:30] <bob2017> is there an X command line to force the choice of device?
[07:31] <hateball> you can write your own xorg.conf
[07:32] <K1rk> bob2017, http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.html
[07:32] <K1rk> bob2017, you can choose primary graphics card in your xorg.conf
[07:32] <K1rk> That seems like the logical next step
[07:35] <bob2017> k1rk:  wow writing that file is going to be a giant pain in the ass
[07:35] <bob2017> k1rk: is there a way to just pick the device and let the system figure the rest out?
[07:35] <bob2017> alright…. I’m going in… wish me luck!
[07:36] <K1rk> bob2017, it's always been my experience that having as much or as little in xorg.conf is ok...
[07:36] <K1rk> bob2017, I don't think you need to write parts you don't need
[07:39] <bramgn> https://xkcd.com/963/
[07:40] <K1rk> bramgn, Yes xD
[07:41] <PowerKiller> KSwapd is using 50% of CPU 1, wut?
[07:42] <OerHeks> PowerKiller, sounds dramatic, but is this bad?
[07:42] <PowerKiller> yes
[07:42] <PowerKiller> wasting my CPU
[07:42] <PowerKiller> I have swapoff'd my swap
[07:42] <PowerKiller> but still no adv
[07:43] <OerHeks> If you disabled swap, it is.
[07:44] <bob2017> k1rk:  ok, with fresh logs, it is still loading nouveau, even though its in the blacklist.conf
[07:44] <PowerKiller> it disappeared
[07:45] <bob2017> k1rk: google says perhaps initramfs needs to be purged of nouveau? does tha tmake sense?
[07:46] <OerHeks> PowerKiller, oke now? i read a lot about kswapd + cpu usage...
[07:46] <K1rk> bob2017, I don't remember having to do that for the nVidia proprietary driver.....but maybe in the absence of another option it loads nouveau anyway lo
[07:46] <PowerKiller> hm, cpu is now at 3%
[07:46] <PowerKiller> IT CAME BACK AGAIN
[07:46] <PowerKiller> OH NO
[07:47] <bob2017> k1rk:  what about a shell script to load at boot before X?
[07:47] <Mr_Cyclops> If the nVidia graphics app is installed, check in the profile, you have an option not to use the nVidia and use the onboard intel chipset or likewise
[07:48] <K1rk> Mr_Cyclops, unfortunately he can't boot into GUI to open the utility.
[07:48] <Mr_Cyclops> oh
[07:48] <bob2017> and apparently disabling nouveau is a challenge as well
[07:48] <Mr_Cyclops> well if no GUI is present, what difference does it make anyway which driver is loaded?
[07:49] <bob2017> nouveau does not wish to be disabled
[07:49] <Mr_Cyclops> or is it that nouveau is loaded and thats why GUI doesnt work?
[07:49] <bob2017> mr_cyclops: because it keeps trying to start the wrong video card and freezing on fist boot after install of ubuntu
[07:49] <PowerKiller> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is the workaround
[07:49] <bob2017> i can’t get into cli either
[07:49] <PowerKiller> I'll better make it a cronjob
[07:49] <Mr_Cyclops> ic
[07:50] <bob2017> wait!
[07:50] <bob2017> i have a new crash file!
[07:50] <Mr_Cyclops> have you tried blacklisting in modprobe and using the nomodeset option in grub as well?
[07:50] <bob2017> it says the command line was: usr/bin/X -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch    does this tell us anything?
[07:50] <bob2017> my_cyclops: all of that except nomodeset
[07:50] <Mr_Cyclops> try the nodmodeset option, I remember it did work for me
[07:50] <bob2017> its still loading nouveau even though its blacklisted
[07:51] <Mr_Cyclops> though since my gui works, i simply disable from the nvidia application gui interface, its easy tht way
[07:51] <bob2017> k1rk (or my cyclops):  Is there a way to change the X command line that ubuntu is runnign at boot, to specify on the command line which graphics card to use?
[07:51] <Mr_Cyclops> Xorg ?
[07:52] <bob2017> ?
[07:53] <zzarr> bob2017, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <bob2017> zzarr: i don’t want to do it by editing the file.  i want to do it by changing the command line arguments
[07:53] <zzarr> bob2017, or use xrandr
[07:54] <K1rk> zzarr, I think xrandr would only work if he had a shell already, he can't get to TTY
[07:54] <bob2017> but, i can edit files on the disk from another OS, whcih is what i’m doing now
[07:54] <Mr_Cyclops> the only option I think is to get to a TTY without freeze is the nomodeset option in grub, try that
[07:55] <bob2017> ok here we go
[07:55] <zzarr> K1rk, my bad
[07:55] <Afdla> why doesn't xinput set-prop 9 272 2801298401927 do anything? 9 is my mouse and 272 is constant deceleration
[07:55] <Afdla> Any value I try, I see no difference to mouse  sensitivity
[07:56] <Afdla> it is still too fast to control accurately
[07:56] <Mr_Cyclops> I tried this URL for myself sometime ago and it did work
[07:56] <Mr_Cyclops> http://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver
[07:56] <Mr_Cyclops> xinput works only once X is loaded
[07:57] <Mr_Cyclops> otherwise its useless
[07:59] <Afdla> I have no clue what X is
[07:59] <Afdla> thought disabling the mouse with xinput works
[07:59] <hateball> Afdla: X.org is what enables you to have a GUI and peripheral input
[08:00] <Afdla> though*
[08:00] <hateball> Such as a mouse or what have you
[08:00] <Afdla> ok thanks
[08:00] <hateball> !x
[08:00] <Mr_Cyclops> try checking this file too --> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
[08:00] <Mr_Cyclops> you can disable  your input devices before you get the X login prompt
[08:01] <Mr_Cyclops> mridul@space:~$ cat /data/X-Files/Unsorted_Docs/__unsorted_dropbox/dropbox.3/Disable_Touchpad_on_X11_Load.txt
[08:01] <Mr_Cyclops> > Backup the existing/default conf file for event devices
[08:01] <Mr_Cyclops> 	sudo cp -p /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf.000
[08:01] <Mr_Cyclops> > Edit the file and  find the section for Touchpad or likewise device, and at the end of the section, for e.g the following...
[08:01] <Mr_Cyclops> # InputClass section for touchpad
[08:01] <Mr_Cyclops> Section "InputClass"
[08:02] <Afdla> all the inputclass stuff are identical 5 times
[08:02] <Afdla> I don't need to disable anything. Just lower mouse sensitivity.
[08:02] <Afdla> Don't know if it matters I use XFCE
[08:03] <Afdla> if I set mouse accel from gui settings to even 0.1 my mouse freezes
[08:03] <Afdla> sensitivity slider has no effect
[08:04] <Afdla> I've had mouse sensitivity issues for years with ubuntu and rarely do I seem to be able to fix it
[08:06] <Afdla> Hmm acceleration 0,01 freezes 0,009 works
[08:06] <Afdla> but has no effect on sensitivity
[08:06] <cfhowlett> Afdla, ask #xfce ... it's doable but I think it requires some command line work to get to fairly well hidden configurations
[08:06] <bob2017> with nomodeset, I don’t even get as far as i did before - never gets past the bios screen
[08:08] <Afdla> Ok
[08:08] <ShellMaster> how can i upload to ubuntu using ssh?
[08:09] <ShellMaster> i am already in ssh
[08:09] <cfhowlett> ShellMaster, upload what ??
[08:09] <ShellMaster> uploAD A FILE
[08:09] <logan-lane> hello
[08:09] <ShellMaster> a java file
[08:10] <cfhowlett> ShellMaster, do you have permission to upload to ubuntu?
[08:10] <ShellMaster> yes, i am logged in already
[08:11] <cfhowlett> www.ubuntu.com?
[08:12] <ShellMaster> ubuntu server
[08:12] <ShellMaster> i want to upload a file to ubuntu servers
[08:12] <Ben64> scp <file> username@ip:/path/
[08:12] <ShellMaster> i have an amazon server where i want to upload  a a file to
[08:14] <fs> exit
[08:15] <ubuntu342> I am lonely ShellMaster
[08:15] <cfhowlett> ubuntu342, wrong channel.
[08:15] <ShellMaster> noone wants to help me out?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> !server | ShellMaster,
[08:16] <ShellMaster> i know what ubuntu is
[08:16] <ubuntu342> You're trying to upload to Ubuntu server using SSH??
[08:16] <ShellMaster> i have a ubuntu server on amazon web services. i am connected through ssh.
[08:16] <cfhowlett> read again:  ubuntuSERVER is in the other channel
[08:17] <waterdrop> Hi, I have a windows machine that I installed Ubuntu on (after partioning). So now the machine can dual boot. But I just tried backing up my hard disk to a solid state drive, and it did not work (the backup program said it was successful, but when I insert the solid state drive, it can't find the partition).
[08:17] <PowerKiller> Cannot find shader definitions
[08:17] <PowerKiller> a game says
[08:17] <waterdrop> Any advice about what to do?
[08:17] <zzarr> is there a simple way to remove all 0 byte files in a directory?
[08:17] <zzarr> (the file that are not 0 byte are important)
[08:17] <Dro> i'm trying to access an encrypted folder from a fresh, but i get this ==> ecrypt-mount-private : command not found.. is there anything i have to install first?
[08:17] <K1rk> zzarr, Maybe something like "find . -type f -size 0 -exec rm {} \;
[08:18] <K1rk> zzarr, http://www.ducea.com/2008/02/12/linux-tips-find-all-files-of-a-particular-size/
[08:18] <rww> just use -delete instead of -exec rm {} \;
[08:18] <rww> apart from that, identical to what i was about to say :)
[08:18] <zzarr> K1rk, thanks
[08:19] <K1rk> rww, hmm didn't know about the -delete flag thanks
[08:19] <K1rk> haha
[08:19] <rww> K1rk: I think it's a GNU find extension
[08:19] <rww> not 100% sure though
[08:19] <PowerKiller> a game says
[08:19] <K1rk> zzarr, always be CAREFUL with commands like this.
[08:20] <zzarr> K1rk, I am
[08:20] <hateball> waterdrop: No one knows what "the backup program" is, you will need to provide more detail
[08:20] <hateball> waterdrop: Are you trying to clone an HDD to SSD?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> PowerKiller, same for you ^^^\
[08:20] <PowerKiller> Cannot find shader definitions
[08:20] <PowerKiller> what?
[08:21] <waterdrop> hateball:  Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. The backup program was the program on a CD disc that came with the SSD.
[08:21] <bob2017> k1rk: any more ideas? :(
[08:21] <zzarr> thanks to you rww too
[08:21] <waterdrop> hateball: I really don't know anything about the backup program / how it works :(
[08:21] <cfhowlett> waterdrop, a linux backup program?
[08:21] <hateball> waterdrop: I suggest you use Clonezilla, but this is not really Ubuntu related per se
[08:21] <hateball> !clone | waterdrop
[08:21] <rww> zzarr: oh, another thing i forgot. run it without the -delete or -exec part, it'll print out everything it would delete
[08:21] <hateball> ugh
[08:21] <waterdrop> cfhowlett: No, a windows one. I cloned the HDD to the SSD on windows
[08:21] <rww> zzarr: nice failsafe :)
[08:21] <K1rk> bob2017, it occurs to me since you're just running ubuntu for 1 application... is it possible to run in a VM instead of on your hardware?
[08:22] <waterdrop> hateball: Okay, thanks for the suggestion.
[08:22] <zzarr> rww, can I make it accept automatically?
[08:22] <zzarr> rww, I will run it in a automatic script
[08:22] <hateball> waterdrop: See this about -icds, as you are likely cloning to a smaller drive http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/doc/02_Restore_disk_image/advanced/09-advanced-param.php
[08:23] <bob2017> k1rk: fraid not, the purpose of the application is to make efficient use of the GPU.
[08:23] <rww> zzarr: if you run "find . -type f -size 0" it will print every zero-byte file in the current directory. if you run "find . -type f -size 0 -remove" it will delete them without confirmation
[08:23] <waterdrop> hateball: thanks!
[08:23] <K1rk> zzarr, ooh automatic blind deletion of files, sounds very "careful" to me. hehe
[08:23] <rww> zzarr: do the first command manually to make sure it does what you want. put the second command in your script if the first one is correct
[08:23] <zzarr> thanks rww
[08:23] <bob2017> k1rk: is there someone who would look at the logs?
[08:23] <K1rk> bob2017, what is the application?
[08:23] <zzarr> rww, I will
[08:24] <bob2017> k1rk: it’s called fbcunn
[08:24] <bob2017> k1rk: its the kind of thing only 1000 people care about, but those 1000 care a lot
[08:24] <zzarr> K1rk, rww, don't worry, it's just some cache files that will be removed if they are 0byte
[08:25] <K1rk> bob2017, this uses CUDA?
[08:25] <bob2017> k1rk: yes
[08:25] <PowerKiller> Cannot find shader definitions says a game, what to do?!
[08:25] <K1rk> bob2017, CUDA has like nothing to do with GUI, is this even a GUI program?
[08:26] <K1rk> bob2017, I am somewhat familiar with CUDA from bitcoin mining applications I messed with
[08:26] <zzarr> PowerKiller, what game?
[08:26] <PowerKiller> Sauerbraten
[08:26] <bob2017> k1rk: not in the slightest.  However, in order to use it, one has to have installed a package that depends on gui integration because it was poorly designed
[08:26] <bob2017> it’s a library for torch/lua
[08:26] <K1rk> bob2017, in the INSTALL.md (https://github.com/facebook/fbcunn/blob/master/INSTALL.md) it has info for how to install on a virtual machine \ EC2 instance
[08:27] <K1rk> You telling me people are installing a full blown GUI on their EC2 VM for this?
[08:27] <bob2017> k1rk: yeah, that doesn’t work
[08:27] <K1rk> I somehow doubt that
[08:27] <bob2017> turs tme on that :p
[08:27] <bob2017> trust me on that
[08:27] <K1rk> I'd suggest you try with the mini.iso and no GUI bob2017
[08:27] <K1rk> Whatever dependencies you need should be installable from apt, a desktop environment is not required for CUDA
[08:27] <Dro> i'm trying to access an encrypted folder from a fresh installation, but i get this ==> ecrypt-mount-private : command not found.. is there anything i have to install first?
[08:28] <K1rk> bob2017, running a GUI will detract from your performance anyway
[08:28] <Klas5> hey
[08:28] <Klas5> so, Im running ubunto on VMWare player
[08:29] <zzarr> PowerKiller, are you trying to build the game from sources?
[08:29] <PowerKiller> I already did
[08:29] <PowerKiller> it suceeded
[08:29] <Klas5> It appears abunch of my files are "hidden"
[08:29] <zzarr> nice
[08:29] <Klas5> I work alot in the terminal, and inside a folder I can see 19 files
[08:30] <Klas5> if I open it up in the 'explorer' I only see 14
[08:30] <zzarr> Klas5, do the hidden files begin with a "."?
[08:30] <Klas5> zzarr, not in the terminal
[08:30] <Klas5> just "h1.png" etc
[08:30] <zzarr> Klas5, [Ctrl] + H in Nautilus
[08:31] <zzarr> strange
[08:31] <Klas5> zzarr, I suppose Nautilus is the 'explorer' of ubuntu
[08:31] <Klas5> like, every file in the folder "flashed" but the missing files didnt show up
[08:32] <Klas5> I can open the files fine from the terminal as well
[08:32] <zzarr> Klas5, yes, but as you potentially could have another one installed I wrote it explicit
[08:35] <geirha> you are sure it's the same dir? e.g. if you type in terminal:  ls<space> (but not enter), then drag the folder from nautilus to the terminal window, ls still lists 19 files?
[08:38] <zzarr> rww, I get this message "find: unknown predicate `-remove'"
[08:38] <geirha> there is no -remove operator for find
[08:38] <dreamaddict> which ubuntu desktop version should I get?  is 15.10 fine, or is 14.04.3 safer/meaningfully more reliable?
[08:39] <Klas5> geirha, yes, same folder
[08:39] <Klas5> I "solved" it by doing mv h1.png ../ on every "missing file"
[08:39] <Klas5> they showed up one level higher
[08:39] <Klas5> but still wieerd
[08:40] <geirha> Klas5: Did you do the test I suggested?
[08:40] <Lope> what version of Asterisk is available on ubuntu 15?
[08:40] <Ben64> dreamaddict: at this point, probably either. both will upgrade to 16.04, 15.10 you just have to upgrade before July, 14.04 is good until April 2019
[08:40] <geirha> it sounds like the directory you were in inside the terminal had been moved
[08:40] <zzarr> Klas5, ohh, in that case the file was in the wrong directory
[08:40] <geirha> the drag and drop test would've detected it
[08:40] <dreamaddict> ok cool, thank you Ben64
[08:41] <Klas5> but drag and drop test just dropped mi into the same folder
[08:41] <Klas5> see nothing in nautilus, see all files in terminal
[08:41] <OerHeks> !info asterisk
[08:41] <geirha> Klas5: It would only list the files inside, it wouldn't change directory
[08:42] <zzarr> Klas5, if you run "pwd" in terminal and press [Ctrl] + L in Nautilus, are the paths the same?
[08:42] <bob2017> k1rk is there are least a list somewhere of what i’ll have to install if i start with mini.iso to get it into normal-ubuntu form?
[08:42] <geirha> anyway, a new directory had probably taken the place of the old, and in bash, you were still holding a handle on the old directory
[08:42] <bob2017> i mean while i’m using fbcunn i’d like to be able to do work
[08:44] <bob2017> k1rk: what if i just delete X from the existing install?  what would happen then?  is that sensible?
[08:44] <Klas5> zzarr, yes, same paths
[08:44] <odt> im getting frequent resolution changes after upgrading to kernel 4.4. the tv just blinks and goes back to 1920x1080p60. nothing in the dmesg or X log that would even log that it happened
[08:44] <Klas5> geirha, would I still be able to open/read the files?
[08:44] <zzarr> Klas5, okey
[08:45] <geirha> Klas5: Yes
[08:45] <geirha> Klas5: ls -li . "$PWD"   # does this output the same inode number for both?
[08:46] <OerHeks> odt, how did you upgrade the kernel to 4.4 ????
[08:46] <geirha> Klas5: err, sorry, ls -di, not -li
[08:48] <OerHeks> odt, on wily 15.10 ?
[08:48] <Schwarzbaer_> Hi. For a few days now, compiz is running at 100% CPU usage. Restarting it doesn't help that. Any idea why, or, more importantly, how to stop that?
[08:48] <Guest13280> test
[08:49] <bob2017> schwarzbaer: unplug it
[08:49] <bob2017> schwarzbaer:  have you tried updog?
[08:49] <Klas5> geirha,
[08:49] <Klas5> I ran ls -di inside the folder
[08:49] <Klas5> got output "1443930 ."
[08:49] <Schwarzbaer_> bob2017, that tells me nothing, and I'm not really in the mood for bad puns.
[08:49] <Klas5> is that what you meant?
[08:49] <geirha> Klas5: no, ls -di . "$PWD"
[08:50] <OerHeks> bob2017, stop that nonsence please
[08:50] <bob2017> schwarzbaer: i don’t know what you’re talking about
[08:50] <OerHeks> !ot | bob2017
[08:55] <geirha> Klas5: If the directory you are in has moved, those will show different inode numbers
[08:56] <me-1> hi...plz provide me link to download ubuntu for ppc
[08:56] <zzarr> I have bluez 5.36 and got this problem
[08:56] <zzarr>  * Starting bluetooth                                                                                                             [ OK ]
[08:56] <zzarr>  * bluetooth is not running
[08:56] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads
[08:56] <zzarr> the command I ran "service bluetooth start && service bluetooth status"
[08:59] <Klas5> geirha, that gave me output: "1443930 . 1443930 /home/me/DummyAnalysis/cleaner"
[08:59] <Klas5> so same?
[08:59] <geirha> Klas5: Ok, same dir. Have you used cd since?
[09:00] <insidious> is channel used for zorin support as well since its ubuntu based?
[09:00] <OerHeks> insidious, no.
[09:00] <Klas5> since I noticed this wierd behaviour? yes
[09:00] <insidious> OerHeks: do they have a channel?
[09:00] <insidious> elsewhere.
[09:01] <OerHeks> insidious, i suppose so,  look at their page
[09:04] <geirha> Klas5: Then the test is no longer possible, but it was likely the case
[09:06] <cfhowlett> insidious, look in your documentation.  they should make it very easy for you to get support.  if not, perhaps you might rethink your choice of OS
[09:06] <insidious> ok thanks
[09:13] <Dro> i'm trying to access an encrypted folder from a fresh installation, but i get this ==> ecrypt-mount-private : command not found.. is there anything i have to install first?
[09:13] <Tricks> Hi guys, I've written a daemon process which doesn't appear to pick up the settings for open files in limits.conf
[09:14] <Tricks> When the service is started at boot it uses default 1024. If I login kill the service and service start from my session then it picks up the limit. Does anyody know what I'm doing wrong?
[09:15] <Tricks> Ah, I need to set it here: /etc/init/cups.conf
[09:18] <chotaz`w> Huh, how come whenever I try to remove a package that comes bundled within the initial install(firefox in this case) ubuntu tries to remove ubuntu-mate-core ?
[09:19] <hateball> chotaz`w: that's how apt works
[09:19] <eloycoto> Hi, I've just setup a new apt-mirror for our internal servers. Each time that I want to install a package we have different versions of packages and can't be installed. I did dist-upgrade and nothing to update. Any idea why?
[09:19] <chotaz`w> hateball, what if I want to completely remove firefox(purging the package and it's associated files) without touching my DE?
[09:20] <jophish> Hi all
[09:20] <jophish> I'm running xubuntu 14.04. What's the cleanest way of upgrading to the latest vanilla ubuntu?
[09:21] <hateball> chotaz`w: ubuntu-mate-core is a meta-package so removing it is safe per se. However that makes things less awesome if you use apt-get autoremove
[09:21] <wahyu> hi guys
[09:22] <wahyu> hi guys
[09:22] <hateball> chotaz`w: read this for an explanation https://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/the-metapackage-problem-and-apt-get-autoremove/
[09:23] <OerHeks> jophish, 14.04 > 14.10 ( eol) > 15.04 > 15.10 .. i would do a fresh install
[09:23] <OerHeks> or wait for 16.04
[09:23] <hateball> Waiting for 16.04 is likely the least painful option
[09:24] <LocalHost_80> hi guys
[09:25] <chotaz`w> hateball, that was enlightening, thanks!
[09:25] <LocalHost_80> i have Ubuntu 15.10 installed but it stucks and hangs and crashes many times (64Bit)?
[09:25] <chotaz`w> hateball, from what I understand I could just purge firefox, then reinstall the ubuntu-mate-core metapackage?
[09:25] <OerHeks> LocalHost_80, check your ram for bad bits, boot & hold shift and perform memtest86
[09:26] <hateball> chotaz`w: reinstalling the meta-package will pull in its dependencies again
[09:26] <chotaz`w> hateball, it's ok since I jsut want a completely fresh install of firefox
[09:26] <LocalHost_80> thanks a lot , and are there any themes for 15.10?
[09:27] <t1> I have noticed for days that gigantic amounts of data are transferred to daisy. ubuntu. com. Has anybody else noticed this?
[09:27] <LocalHost_80> i tried to install Zukitwo but it failed ...
[09:27] <OerHeks> LocalHost_80, tons of them, install synaptic, and search for 'theme'
[09:28] <LocalHost_80> OerHeks, Thanks a lot :)
[09:28] <wahyu> how to change the admin password
[09:29] <t1> wahyu: Are you in sudoers ?
[09:30] <wahyu> yes I am in sudo
[09:31] <t1> wahyu: Or even better: You know the current pw for root ?
[09:32] <wahyu> yes I know the root password
[09:32] <OerHeks> hateball, interesting ( old) article about metapackages, is there an equilevant for "aptitude keep-all" for apt-get??
[09:33] <t1> wahyu: Then the easiest way is to become root (su) and the rest can be read (man passwd)
[09:34] <hateball> OerHeks: apt-mark
[09:34] <OerHeks> thank you, i'll investigate this.
[09:34] <hateball> OerHeks: if you apt-mark everything as manual I think it should be untouched by metapackages
[09:35] <wahyu> ok I'll try ..how the next step?
[09:35] <OerHeks> Yeah, this might help a lot of users running into this unwanted deletions.
[09:36] <t1> wahyu:You're in a terminal ?
[09:38] <wahyu> yes I 'm in terminal
[09:38] <t1> wahyu: typed su ?
[09:39] <hateball> !sudo
[09:39] <wahyu> oke..the next step?
[09:40] <OerHeks> no need for su," sudo passwd " will change it easily
[09:41] <t1> I have noticed for days that gigantic amounts of data are transferred to daisy. ubuntu. com. Has anybody else noticed this???
[09:42] <t1> wahyu doesn't want to change his own password
[09:42] <t1> BTW
[09:42] <Volkodav> Hi! I have this problem I was fighting with for a few weeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14494895/. That happens on installing updates
[09:43] <jophish> OerHeks: hateball. Ah, there's an upgrade path straight between lts versions, thanks. Would this work upgrading to the 16.04 beta?
[09:43] <OerHeks> jophish, yes, use the -d = development option
[09:43] <hateball> jophish: Yes, if you are feeling adventurous ^
[09:43] <jophish> I think I'll wait
[09:43] <jophish> part of me always likes upgrading to beta versions, but it's always regretful when I do it :)
[09:44] <OerHeks> jophish, unless this is your only machine, you could help a lot.
[09:45] <jophish> It's the machine I use for work, so perhaps it's best to play things safe
[09:56] <t1> I have noticed for days that gigantic amounts of data are transferred to daisy. ubuntu. com. Has anybody else noticed this??? Noone at all ????
[09:57] <zzarr> what do daisy do?
[09:57] <rory-> t1: How have you noticed this?
[09:58] <rory-> t1: What do you mean by "gigantic amounts", and what is the nature of the data?
[09:58] <rory-> t1: That server is used for user crash report submissions
[09:59] <rory-> t1: I googled "daisy.ubuntu.com" and clicked the first result to find that information btw
[09:59] <t1> What Daisy does - I don't know all about it. Let's ask Ubuntu/Canonical, I thought ...
[09:59] <rory-> t1: If Google isn't working for you, we can help you with that
[09:59] <t1> One of the things it does is receiving crash reports AFAIK
[09:59] <rory-> t1: sudo dpkg --remove whoopsie
[09:59] <t1> I'm monotoring my network traffic from time to time
[10:00] <rory-> t1: that will remove crash handler
[10:00] <rory-> t1: you can also firewall daisy.ubuntu.com
[10:00] <t1> gigantic means that there was a transfer of about 400 MB this morning, same yesterday :-o
[10:01] <t1> Only the hard way ? No handle of traffic possible ?
[10:02] <t1> Reagarding the content of /var/crash there should be another way than purge whoopsie ?
[10:02] <zzarr> t1, I think cgroups should be able to handle that
[10:04] <OerHeks> t1, check your logs in /var/log/  and your $HOME, are they growing?
[10:06] <t1> OerHeks: Not more than expected ...
[10:06] <LocalHost_80> hi, what is the best theme for 15.10 in synaptic package manager?
[10:10] <xiaoge> 什么情况
[10:10] <zzarr> xiaoge, please ask questions in English
[10:11] <llldino> !ch
[10:11] <xiaoge> ok
[10:11] <llldino> Oops
[10:12] <DJones> !cn | xiaoge
[10:14] <icedwater> How do you see what goes on when you apt-get install a package?
[10:14] <hateball> icedwater: You mean what the package actually does?
[10:14] <abochu> chu is an abo bastard
[10:15] <icedwater> No, hateball, I was looking at this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34762975/ and I wanted to see what was happening when that particular package was installed.
[10:15] <icedwater> Like, what goes on behind the "Setting up package_name (version)..." line
[10:16] <llldino> apt-get install --dry-run package?
[10:17] <icedwater> llldino: that's not specific enough, I tried it.
[10:18] <icedwater> I'm sure it runs some script defined in the .deb that manages the install procedure...
[10:18] <llldino> Did you try apt-get with the -v option?
[10:18] <xiaoge> what is this place
[10:18] <llldino> Errr..there is no v option
[10:18] <icedwater> Doesn't seem to exist for me, llldino :P
[10:19] <icedwater> I thought about it as I was typing my first response to hateball, and tried it too.
[10:20] <hateball> icedwater: you can apt-get download package
[10:20] <hateball> icedwater: then open it in whatever you handle compressed files with, inspect the contents
[10:20] <hateball> some packages have pre and post scripts, like the kernel for instance
[10:21] <icedwater> Yep, I'm looking at the package in /var/cache/apt/archive for now
[10:22] <icedwater> Looks like I need to poke about in control.tar.gz for the interesting stuff.
[10:26] <geirha> apt-get source package-name   then look through the debian dir within
[10:36] <gobal> how to create wifi hotspot in ubuntu
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> what could cause 2 laptops not recognize a samsung ML-1665 printer by default via usb and 14.04.3, on the desktop printer shows by default
[10:38] <Mathisen> lotuspsychje, http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> Mathisen: tnx, but the weird thing is on the trusty desktop it recognizes out of the box..trying to understand why
[10:45] <icedwater> geirha: thanks, that looks quite different from what was in the deb before. I suppose that's the stuff on the SVN that actually produces the package.
[10:46] <geirha> icedwater: yes. You can recreate the package by running "debuild" in the directory containing debian/
[10:47] <icedwater> geirha: oooh, thanks.
[10:47] <geirha> oh and you might want to include -uc -us iirc. Otherwise it will warn you about being unable to sign the package
[10:49] <geirha> oh and run   sudo apt-get build-dep package-name  to first install all the packages required to build it. (they are listed in debian/control)
[10:51] <stunts513> I can't seem to get my nvme raid to show up, i think i have traced it down to the ahci driver lacking support and wonder if anyone has had a simlar issue or knows of any patches.
[10:51] <stunts513> fakeraid*
[10:52] <foormea> hi! i'm wondering, when i change my system-wide keymap via dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration,    it changes some settings in /etc/default/keyboard, but only related to xkb. where are the consolee keyboard settings placed?
[10:53] <foormea> i've had a look in /etc/initramfs-tools and couldn't see much there
[10:54] <sub1ne> hi
[10:54] <sub1ne> anybody used to lubuntu?
[10:58] <IdleOne> foormea: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard seems to suggest that /etc/default/keyboard applies that changes both in console and xkb
[10:58] <Eri111> sub1ne just give ur question anyone who knows will give u an idea
[10:59] <foormea> man 5 keyboard     suggests otherwise
[10:59] <bluefive> Radeon HD8250 -- is this fully supported by Ubuntu?
[10:59] <foormea> man 5 keyboard        suggests that KMAP should be used in /etc/default/keyboard for console keymap -- but it's not changed after a dpkgreconfigure keyboard-settings
[11:00] <foormea> oohohhh
[11:00] <foormea> "Usually this variable will be unset but if you don't want to use a XKB layout on the console"
[11:00] <foormea> so i guess by default the xbd is transferred back to the console keymap, unless you specify a KMAP value?
[11:01] <foormea> BUT, that still desn't explain how the initram gets the keymap. the keymap in my unencrypt screen at boot is changed too
[11:01] <Eri111> bluefive it depends on the model of ur computer/radeon display... on the later versions of ubuntu the always update the missing drivers
[11:03] <bluefive> I read that someone was using a Radeon video card with Ubuntu, but the most recent versions of Ubuntu no longer supported it
[11:03] <bluefive> so in order to use his computer he must use an old version of Ubuntu..
[11:04] <IdleOne> bluefive: or get a supported graphics card
[11:04] <IdleOne> not everything can be supported forever
[11:04] <foormea> IdleOne: might be in /etc/kbd :)
[11:04] <IdleOne> foormea: possibly.
[11:05] <bluefive> IdleOne, But that's a really low-down-dirty tactic..
[11:05] <bluefive> Now the user has to use an old version of Ubuntu, getting older all the time.
[11:05] <IdleOne> bluefive: every OS out there at some point stops supporting older hardware
[11:05] <sudomarize> if i've plugged in my rasp pi to my laptop via LAN, how can i find the devices IP?
[11:06] <tinyhippo> /1
[11:07] <bluefive> IdleOne, Really?
[11:08] <diffis> Hello! Can anyone give me a hint about a command line program that would generate a movie or an animation from a data file? I know gnuplot can create some animations, but I'm looking for something simpler like 'prog --delay 5 datafile outputfile'.
[11:10] <Eri111> bluefive: yes idle1 is right... please dont tell me ur pc is very old... it is like windows 8 can not work on old xp compitable pcies, sorry for mentioning windows in linux world but i wanna make it clear
[11:12] <Eri111> bluefive can u check out the sit "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD" see if it helps
[11:16] <bluefive> Is the proprietary driver superior?
[11:20] <Volkodav> Hi! I have this problem I was fighting with for a few weeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14494895/. That happens on installing updates
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: ubuntu version?
[11:21] <Volkodav> 15.04
[11:21] <Volkodav> 15.10 sorry
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[11:21] <Volkodav> only opera and googletalk
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: better purge all ppa's from system and sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <Volkodav> did that
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: did you install any other packages manually?
[11:23] <Volkodav> you mean compiling?
[11:23] <Volkodav> or bins?
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: yeah anything
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> !info libopencv-video2.4v5
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: did you install this package officially from repos?
[11:24] <rory-> Volkodav: can you try to do: sudo apt-get clean
[11:24] <rory-> Volkodav: and sudo rm -fv /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb (careful)
[11:25] <Volkodav> lotuspsychje: The only package not from repos is tor
[11:25] <Volkodav> all others are removed
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Volkodav: try what rory suggest also
[11:26] <Volkodav> ok
[11:27] <Volkodav> did that - see what happens
[11:30] <^warlock^> hello
[11:30] <^warlock^> hello
[11:30] <^warlock^> hello
[11:30] <^warlock^> hello
[11:30] <Volkodav> rory: same error
[11:31] <^warlock^> same error
[11:31] <^warlock^> yea
[11:31] <rory> ^warlock^: Anything I can help with?
[11:32] <^warlock^> i am having difficutlties in using irc
[11:32] <^warlock^> i am a new user
[11:32] <rory> ^warlock^: /join #freenode
[11:32] <qqqqq> Before Christmas I reinstalled  Ubuntu and then my PC broke down and I sent it in to have it fixed. However the System is LVM encypted. I just put the disk into another PC and I don't remember neither my user password nor my root password.
[11:32] <rory> ^warlock^: People there will help you with IRC and network queries
[11:32] <rory> ^warlock^: This is the Ubuntu Linux support channel
[11:33] <qqqqq> However, I remember the password to decrypt the LVM.
[11:33] <Volkodav> rory: did cache clean and  removed debs - same thing
[11:33] <qqqqq> Is there a way via live stick to change the password of root on the installed system?
[11:33] <^warlock^> who are you going to vote this time man
[11:34] <ikonia> ^warlock^: stop please
[11:34] <ikonia> ^warlock^: this channel is not for that
[11:35] <rory> qqqqq: Yes it's possible. You mount your Ubuntu partition, use the "chroot" command to open a shell in that environment, and then use the "passwd" command as normal
[11:35] <rory> qqqqq: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[11:35] <rory> qqqqq: FYI that link is the first result on Google for your question (word-for-word) Is there a way via live stick to change the password of root on the installed system?
[11:36] <qqqqq> rory: The problem is the encrypted LVM
[11:37] <rory> qqqqq: sudo apt-get install lvm2 cryptsetup
[11:37] <rory> qqqqq: sudo modprobe dm-crypt
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:37] <rory> qqqqq: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 crypt1 (replace sda1 by the actual name of the partition)
[11:37] <rory> qqqqq: enter your passphrase when prompted
[11:38] <rory> qqqqq: sudo vgscan --mknodes to get the name of the volume group
[11:38] <rory> qqqqq: sudo mount /dev/volume_name/root /mnt
[11:39] <qqqqq> rory: thx so much
[11:39] <qqqqq> I will try it out
[11:42] <Volkodav> rory:  is it possible to remove just this video pkg or that will bring a dependency hell?
[11:42] <czwolf> Hello :) Trying command: mono-service -l:Corrade.exe.lock Corrade.exe Should run a scripted agent for 3D worlds to login to. No effect. Could you help?
[11:42] <rory> Volkodav: The problem isn't the package being installed, it's some index corruption or something
[11:42] <rory> Volkodav: Are you using NFS?
[11:42] <Volkodav> NFS?
[11:43] <rory> Then no
[11:44] <Volkodav> should I remove tor as well ?
[11:44] <Volkodav> it's a bin file from their sitr
[12:11] <sqdqsdsq> how to make ubuntu usb stick bootable ? (from the usb)
[12:11] <rory> sqdqsdsq: It ought to already be bootable. How did you create it?
[12:11] <sqdqsdsq> rory: ah no, i mean how to make it persistant
[12:11] <sqdqsdsq> its already bootable
[12:12] <IdleOne> !usb
[12:12] <IdleOne> sqdqsdsq: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[12:12] <rory> sqdqsdsq: you can't make it persistant after the fact. You can re-create it with persistance
[12:12] <rory> sqdqsdsq: you can't make it persistant while booted from the live USB
[12:12] <rory> sqdqsdsq: you CAN back up your local changes you've made while on the live USB, by coping the entire /home directory to another drive
[12:13] <sqdqsdsq> rory:  ok thanks
[12:32] <czwolf> Hi. :) Having a problem to start mono application. May not be a problem in it and if so, I need to find a way how to detect a culprit. Anyone using mono apps/services?
[12:33] <akik> czwolf: i'm using keepass2 which is a mono app
[12:33] <akik> czwolf: /usr/bin/cli /usr/lib/keepass2/KeePass.exe
[12:34] <akik> i meant .net app
[12:34] <czwolf> akik Thank you for response and I am using it too, plus some server. My problem is related to a service:  I downloaded the package, I have running mono and ubuntu, running another mono apps. My Mono is:  Mono JIT compiler version 4.2.1 (Stable 4.2.1.102/6dd2d0d My system is:  Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS Trying to run Corrade by comm
 and: mono-service -l:Corrade.exe.lock Corrade.exe As a response I am getting silence.
[12:36] <czwolf> akik Do you think my command is ok and all I needed was to unpack, make executable, run by this?
[12:37] <tijarni> my ubuntu is really slow, what could be going on?
[12:40] <AndChat572649> LCDR vs xfce which de is better.
[12:40] <AndChat572649> *Lxde
[12:41] <k1l_> try both and decide yourself
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !details | tijarni
[12:41] <OerHeks> There is no single best, indeed
[12:42] <rory> AndChat572649: "which is better" - if there was an objective answer, then the other one would not exist
[12:42] <OerHeks> lxde is lightweight, xfce much nicer.
[12:42] <rory> AndChat572649: Which one is best, is the one that you like
[12:42] <rory> AndChat572649: In my opinion, unless you have a reason to use LXDE specifically, you should use Xubuntu if you want a lightweight desktop system. But other opinions are available
[12:43] <AndChat572649> Hmm
[12:44] <tijarni> it is a newly installed version -- 14.04
[12:44] <tijarni> browser loads slowly
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> tijarni: system specs? ram? what part is 'slow'?
[12:44] <tijarni> ram 3.5gb
[12:44] <AndChat572649> I am from xp sp2 switching to Linux completely.
[12:44] <tijarni> processor: AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2
[12:45] <tijarni> 64 bit
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> tijarni: can you check wich driver is active sudo lshw -C video?
[12:45] <tijarni> HP 2000
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> !paste | tijarni
[12:50] <tijarni> lotuspsychje, http://pastie.org/10689560
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> tijarni: ok, your using radeon driver, looks good to me
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> tijarni: maybe check your syslog whats going on or try chromium-browser if that makes it quicker for you?
[12:54] <akik> czwolf: sorry i only have tested with keepass2, not with mono-service
[12:58] <UBUTERO> goo morning
[12:59] <zzarr> UBUTERO, is it morning in the World of Goo?
[13:01] <Teagan> Uhm dear linux users has anybody any idea about how i can find my savegames in lubuntu??
[13:02] <bazhang> save games for what Teagan
[13:02] <UBUTERO> hello, for all
[13:02] <Teagan> hi there
[13:03] <Teagan> endless sky for instance
[13:03] <bazhang> Teagan, wine or native/ steam what
[13:03] <Teagan> native
[13:03] <bazhang> Teagan, checked for the hidden folders yet?
[13:04] <Teagan> oh im terribly sorry im pretty new to linux i shall check it thank you very much
[13:04] <zzarr> Teagan, I would guess ether ~/.<gamename> or in ~/.local/share/gamename
[13:04] <pepijndevos> I wrote a C program that writes 8bit audio that I pipe into aplay, but there is a large delay due to buffering. How do I reduce that?
[13:04] <bazhang> Teagan, nuatilus the file manager has an option to show hidden folders
[13:05] <bazhang> and nautilus
[13:05] <Teagan> thank you very much bazhang and zzarr i'll check it out right away
[13:05] <zzarr> Teagan, no problem
[13:06] <fwaokda> when i attempt to install updates it says i need to install from unauthenticated resources... I click ok and then nothing happens. How do I resolve this?
[13:06] <UBUTERO> hello diego
[13:07] <Diego_> Hello Bruno.
[13:08] <qqqqq> Please someone help. I mounted an encrypted LVM to /volume of the live usb stick. But I can not chroot into it via sudo chroot /volume
[13:08] <czwolf> akik Is OK and thank you :) Well I need to know if I am trying to run that service well or if the problem is in that mono program.
[13:12] <Teagan> Bazhang, Zzarr you guys are life savers, worked like a charm, i found the saves thank you so much
[13:12] <bazhang> ok
[13:12] <zzarr> Teagan, glad I could help :-)
[13:15] <Galere> Bonjour il y a des français ou vais-je devoir tout expliquer en Anglais ?
[13:16] <OerHeks> Galere, this channel is english only, else join #ubuntu-fr
[13:16] <nglpx1> hi, flash don't work in chromium, help please!
[13:17] <OerHeks> nglpx1, does flashplugin work on youtube ?? here it does.
[13:18] <Galere> Np, so i'm a beginer in Ubuntu and i'm trying to setup my network. The problem is i can't do it and when i "ifconfig " it display only lo wich is my local network.
[13:18] <nglpx1> about:plugins on chromium doesn'appear any flash plugin
[13:18] <Galere> Does it means that my material isnt plug in or activate?
[13:18] <Galere> Sorry for bad English
[13:19] <OerHeks> nglpx1, did you install restricted extras, for flash/java/webplugins and codecs/fonts and tools?
[13:20] <fwaokda> when viewing text output from tail command is there an ability to show only as much as will fit on screen and then allow me to hit enter to go further down the document?
[13:20] <nglpx1> OerHeks, I've installed adobe-flashplugin, pepperflashplugin but nothing
[13:20] <nglpx1> It did work before I removed pepper flash
[13:21] <nglpx1> I removed it cause high network load
[13:21] <OerHeks> just install pepperflash then? ( it downloads chrome, and extracts the plugin)
[13:21] <nglpx1> then I tried to install adboe flash but nothing
[13:22] <BluesKaj> chrome should work without any flash plugin , it has it's own flash version
[13:22] <OerHeks> !flash
[13:22] <nglpx1> I reinstalled pepperflash but nothing (chromium, not chrome!)
[13:22] <anonymous_>  the best
[13:22] <BluesKaj> nglpx1, try chrome
[13:22] <anonymous_> check ubuntu gnome Mate
[13:22] <OerHeks> oh, the page says you need adobe-flash plugin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[13:23] <triac> chrome/chromium is using pepper-flash and firefox is using flash plugin (right?)
[13:24] <OerHeks> triac, no, see my last line/url
[13:24] <nglpx1> chrome tell me that shockwave flash crashed :(
[13:24] <BluesKaj> triac, no chromium and chrome use different versions of flash...only chrome has an embedded version not avilable to other browsers
[13:24] <nglpx1> pepper flash is installed
[13:25] <nglpx1> maybe I have some dirty directory with wrong flash plugins?
[13:26] <OerHeks> nglpx1, and did you do step 2 to activate the pepper thingy?
[13:27] <nglpx1> OerHeks, you mean update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree?
[13:27] <OerHeks> oh, wrong again, the wiki page is deleted, remove pepperflash > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Instructions%20for%20the%20%5B%5Bpepperflashplugin-nonfree
[13:27] <OerHeks> the page says you need adobe-flash plugin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[13:28] <nglpx1> I tried both, pepper and adobe
[13:29] <ioria> nglpx1,    did you  enable Canonical Partner  ?
[13:29] <nglpx1> I use the terminal, not the package manager
[13:30] <ioria> !info adobe-flashplugin
[13:30] <ioria> adobe-flashplugin is not present in the normal repos ...
[13:30] <ioria> nglpx1,    you need to  enable Canonical Partner
[13:31] <ioria> nglpx1,    SystemSetting -> Soft & Update -> Other Software
[13:31] <ioria> nglpx1,    then you can install adobe-flashplugin
[13:32] <ioria> nglpx1,   better to remove pepper first
[13:32] <nglpx1> ops, I enabled without removing pepper
[13:33] <ioria> nglpx1,   you can do it, also editing sources.list
[13:33] <nglpx1> I anabled Canonical Partner, now it's updating the cache
[13:34] <nglpx1> but, I repeat, before removing pepper this morning flash did work
[13:34] <ioria> nglpx1,   on Chromium ?
[13:35] <nglpx1> yes
[13:35] <OerHeks> so why did you remove pepperflash? if it works, don't break it.
[13:35] <ioria> nglpx1,    OerHeks ^^
[13:35] <OerHeks> this makes no sense at all
[13:36] <nglpx1> I removed pepperflash cause strange high network load from ppperflash plugin
[13:36] <ioria> nglpx1,   ah
[13:36] <ioria> possible
[13:37] <ioria> nglpx1,   temporary or persistent ?
[13:37] <nglpx1> temporary
[13:37] <nglpx1> I esamined with netstat
[13:38] <ioria> nglpx1,   well, there should be a reason why   is deprecated , now
[13:38] <nglpx1> and the result was that pepper was making strange external connections
[13:38] <OerHeks> nglpx1, maybe best to start all over again, remove chromium and all plugins, and reinstall
[13:39] <nglpx1> uhm.. but why chrome don't work too? hasn't chrome his own flash plugin?
[13:40] <ioria> yep
[13:40] <ioria> pepper
[13:41] <ioria> check its version, should be 20
[13:42] <nglpx1> yes, is 20
[13:42] <ioria> and not working ?
[13:43] <jjordaan> Hi all. I know this is probably not the right channel to be asking, but I can't seem to find any channel for mdadm, so here goes. I have an issue where the previous admin set up a file server with 4 x 2Tb drives all in mdadm raid5 INCLUDING the OS drive :( The issue is that the OS drive now failed, but all 3 the other drives are fine. I tried googleing for long to try find how to get the raid back up or at least get the data off the
[13:43] <jjordaan>  other 3 drives, but didn't have any luck. I'm currently on the server with ubuntu live. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)
[13:43] <nglpx1> chrome shows a different problem, in the chrome:plugin page the flash plugin is present but it crashes when I load a page with flash
[13:43] <ioria> nglpx1,   cat /etc/issue
[13:43] <nglpx1> Ubuntu 15.10
[13:44] <OerHeks> nglpx1, 'load a page with flash'.. try youtube first. other pages might be compromised, payload and such.
[13:44] <nglpx1> I tried the adobe flash about page
[13:45] <Jack_rip_vim> those days I can't upgrade successfully. and  I don't know why .
[13:45] <nglpx1> youtube works
[13:46] <ioria> youtube uses other stuff...
[13:46] <nglpx1> yes, so I tried the about flash adobe page
[13:47] <ioria> nglpx1,  try vimeo, or other sites
[13:48] <nglpx1> ioria, there isn't any flash plugin in the chrome:plugin page!
[13:50] <ioria> nglpx1,  now i don't recall exactly the location,  but go in Advanced and look for plugins
[13:50] <nglpx1> the location in the filesystem or the location in the browser?
[13:51] <ioria> nglpx1,  in the browser
[13:52] <nglpx1> in the browser is the "chrome:plugin" page
[13:52] <ioria> nglpx1,  what you have there ?
[13:53] <nglpx1> I have some plugin installed, but no flash plugin
[13:53] <ioria> nglpx1,  can you take a screenschot ?
[13:54] <nglpx1> why? I am sure there is no flash plugin there
[13:54] <nglpx1> chrome://plugins/
[13:56] <nglpx1> Chromium PDF Viewer and Widevine Content Decryption Module plugins
[13:57] <nglpx1> uff.. I try to reboot
[13:57] <OerHeks> chrome <> chromium ....
[13:58] <OerHeks> i think you mixed up now.
[13:58] <asura> Could anyone help me with an error I ran into while updating kernel to 4.4?
[13:58] <nglpx1> the plugin page is chrome://plugins/ both in chromium and chrome
[13:59] <nglpx1> I try to reboot
[14:00] <OerHeks> asura, kernel 4.4 is just out, file a bugreport please.
[14:00] <OerHeks> !bug
[14:01] <asura> OerHeks, not sure if it's a bug ot a personal thing though
[14:01] <asura> That's why I came here first.
[14:03] <nglpx1> no success :(
[14:03] <OerHeks> asura, that is the risk of using the newest untested kernel
[14:04] <OerHeks> !mainline
[14:04] <Delta706> can anyone recommend an application which records mouse and keyboard usage along with timings, and can replay them later?
[14:05] <nglpx1> just a moment....
[14:05] <agile_prg> hi all, I try to login to ubuntu and it just comes back to the login screen
[14:05] <OerHeks> asura, note: The mainline kernels builds are produced for debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk.
[14:06] <agile_prg> can anyone tell me how to troubleshoot this?
[14:07] <mtilhan> there is some problem at my ubuntu 14.04, after it goes to screensaver then lock screen and monitors goes to energy saving mode. at least it was like that. now if i went away like 15 minutes and when I came back, my right monitor completely closed of and left monitor is black screen with one underscore flashing at top left. it doesnt response to anything unless i try a few times quickly alt+ctrl+f7 then it goes to login screen. any i
[14:07] <nglpx1> after rebooting flash works on chromium but not in chrome
[14:09] <nglpx1> and there are those strange connections
[14:09] <nglpx1> visible in netstat
[14:11] <zamba> i'm trying to upgrade from precise to trusty.. doing 'do-release-upgrade' runs for a while and then outputs: "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[14:11] <zamba> "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[14:12] <zzarr> I have a thing to say: If you're a programmer install apt-file (sudo apt install apt-file && sudo apt-file update)
[14:14] <zzarr> one can search for files and see what package they belong to
[14:16] <Auto112> Ciao
[14:16] <Auto112> !LIst
[14:16]  * pbx wonders why it is always "ciao" with the warez guys
[14:17] <Auto112> Ciao
[14:17] <Auto112> !list
[14:18] <Pici> pbx: theres a popular xchat script for that sort of thing and its documentation is all in italian.
[14:20] <zzarr> !list
[14:23] <BrazenBraden> I see the latest kernel is 4.4 but mine is 4.2 and apt update && upgrade doesnt install it. When does it become available through apt?
[14:24] <someguyfromhell> I need some help, ubuntu minimal installation just hangs at purple screen. I read that I'm supposed to wait, but nothing is happening after 40 mins.
[14:24] <zzarr> BrazenBraden, when Xenial is released
[14:25] <BrazenBraden> zzarr, that would be 16.04?
[14:25] <qqqqq> Are there encrypted LVM experts?
[14:25] <zzarr> BrazenBraden, yes, 16.04, according to OMG Ubuntu  April 21
[14:26] <BrazenBraden> zzarr, ok. would i be looking for trouble trying to update to kernel 4.4 manually?
[14:26] <zzarr> BrazenBraden, before I answer may I ask why and how you use the installation?
[14:27] <zzarr> BrazenBraden, is it a production machine or just a private installation?
[14:28] <ioanm> is there a ubuntu dev channel?
[14:28] <BrazenBraden> zzarr, i cant get my elantech multi-touch touchpad to work. been googling for days. one guy recommended upgrading the kernel to 4.4 so figured i might try that because i have tried everything else i could find. its my private laptop.
[14:28] <zzarr> ioanm, #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:29] <BrazenBraden> not being able to scroll with double touch swipe is frustrating and severly slows me down
[14:29] <ioanm> does #ubuntu-app-devel refer to 3rd party apps?
[14:30] <zzarr> BrazenBraden, okey, you could run sudo update-manager -d (switching to Xenial developer release)
[14:30] <zzarr> ioanm, yes
[14:31] <BrazenBraden> zzarr, if things go bad, would i be able to recover from it? If I do the switch to that, it would be a whole new OS, meaning I couldnt just switch to an older kernel version in grub if I need to
[14:32] <zzarr> you could switch to and older kernel, but I think that 4.4 would be fine
[14:32] <BrazenBraden> zzarr, already had major issues just getting 15.10 to work
[14:32] <zzarr> BrazenBraden, 4.4 is a stable LTS kernel
[14:32] <ioanm> zzarr, i'm sorry but 4.1 is longterm
[14:32] <ioanm> 4.4 is just stable
[14:32] <ioanm> or mainline
[14:32] <BrazenBraden> zzarr, and i cant just download the debs and dpkg -i them in 15.10?
[14:32] <ioanm> (today i visited kernel.org)
[14:33] <zzarr> http://plus.url.google.com/url?sa=j&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbuff.ly%2F1JM3P5S&uct=1431938499&usg=MI-WDwgN2-Bh5smFy6KSga2HgrM.
[14:33] <BrazenBraden> yea, 4.1.15 is LT
[14:33] <zzarr> sry wrong link, http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-16-04-lts-now-based-on-linux-kernel-4-4-lts-498901.shtml?utm_content=buffer8f8d1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=plus.google.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[14:33] <ren0v0> hi, i'm getting a 404 on trying to install wine
[14:33] <ren0v0> Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main libgnutls26 i386 2.12.23-12ubuntu2.3    404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[14:33] <ren0v0> how can i fix that?
[14:34] <mtilhan>  there is some problem at my ubuntu 14.04, after it goes to screensaver then lock screen and monitors goes to energy saving mode. at least it was like that. now if i went away like 15 minutes and when I came back, my right monitor completely closed of and left monitor is black screen with one underscore flashing at top left. it doesnt response to anything unless i try a few times quickly alt+ctrl+f7 then it goes to login screen. any 
[14:34] <ioanm> zzarr, sorry
[14:34] <BrazenBraden> my bad.
[14:34] <zzarr> ioanm, no problem
[14:34] <BrazenBraden> was just going with what kernel.org said
[14:34] <ioanm> zzarr, say is ubuntu standard kernel diff
[14:34] <BrazenBraden> anyway, regardless, will 15.10 break if i dpkg -i the 4.4 deb files?
[14:35] <ioanm> zzarr, if I get 4.4 and compile it, will it break anything?
[14:35] <zzarr> ioanm, I don't know
[14:36] <zzarr> ioanm, I guess that the worst thing that can happen is that your computer don't start and you have to boot from a live image make a chroot and remove the kernel
[14:37] <BrazenBraden> putting dodgy kernel upgrades aside, had anyone here with problems getting an elantech mousepad drivers properly installed so that multi-touch works?
[14:37] <ioanm> zzarr, no i meant some www pages say that the ubuntu kernel is modified to work better with the distro
[14:38] <zzarr> ioanm, no, I'm not thinking, you could select the old kernel at boot up
[14:38] <ioanm> zzarr, and if I install a custom linux i lose the modif
[14:38] <zzarr> ioanm, I think Canonical modify the kernel but I don't know how
[14:41] <OerHeks> ioanm, read about it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[14:41] <gaman> greetings.
[14:43] <valentinofx> is anyone here working from home ?
[14:43] <gordonjcp> valentinofx: I do sometimes, why?
[14:43] <valentinofx> what do you do
[14:44] <gordonjcp> valentinofx: I work in radio comms
[14:44] <gordonjcp> I make the things that make walkie-talkies work, work
[14:44] <OerHeks> valentinofx, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[14:45] <ioanm> OerHeks, no thx, i changed my mind
[14:45] <gordonjcp> valentinofx: and in answer to what I suspect your next question is going to be, yes Ubuntu talks to the VPN just fine, and LibreOffice works pretty well with the MS Word and Excel documents we use
[14:45] <valentinofx> ok is anyone working with ubuntu getting paid from home
[14:46] <gordonjcp> valentinofx: a huge number of Canonical's staff work from home
[14:47] <valentinofx> thanks
[14:48] <OerHeks> bisu fix your connection please
[14:48] <valentinofx> so can i use my "old" desktop to make money some how with running ubuntu server
[14:49] <HackerII> gordonjcp:  cool, im a retired ham radio repairman
[14:49] <OerHeks> valentinofx, sure, you are free to do so.
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !ops | bisu pingpong
[14:55] <gordonjcp> HackerII: 73 de MM0YEQ
[14:55] <gaman> who you hacking gordon
[14:55] <BrazenBraden> is it guaranteed that I will have synaptics running if I have a touchpad?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> Gamah:no hacking topics on this network please
[14:56] <gaman> gordon started it. but ok
[14:56] <gaman> hacking typically refers to the verb. I think to refer to criminal hacking you have to be more specific
[14:56] <gaman> the generic troubleshooting hacking away at things
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> gaman: and its still offtopic...
[14:57] <gordonjcp> lotuspsychje: and misusing the word "hacking" to mean computer crime is pretty offensive
[14:57] <Pici> !hacking
[14:59] <zzarr> I'm a hacker
[15:00] <shibboleth> i915.enable_hd_vgaarb=1 <--- the patch that this option enables is not part of the mainline ubuntu kernels?
[15:01] <BrazenBraden> i have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed but running synclient says "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?" and there is no mention of synaptics in Xorg.log.
[15:08] <dloginov> Hi, I would like to register my IRC account and use Pidgin... how can I do it?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> !register | dloginov
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> !info pidgin | dloginov sudo apt-get install pidgin
[15:09] <dloginov> ok thanks I got it :)
[15:10] <nikhil_360> HI guys, the sound from my video player is barely audible.. The sound is great when I play songs (mp3) but for videos it is very very low. I installed ubuntu restricted extras but still no use. Any help pls?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> nikhil_360: on firefox?
[15:11] <nikhil_360> I use ubuntu 14.04.
[15:11] <nikhil_360> NO lotuspsychje.. on my ubuntu
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> nikhil_360: ok wich video player
[15:12] <nikhil_360> movie player (the default one) as well as I downloaded banshee, but no avail
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> nikhil_360: did you try on vlc?
[15:12] <nikhil_360> no..
[15:12] <gordonjcp> nikhil_360: if you open up the audio control panel, do you see a separate volume control for it when it's playing?
[15:13] <nikhil_360> I didn't check that.. 1 min please
[15:13] <simon> Hi, Since I've installed nvidia proprietary drivers I can't boot in anything except recovery mode. I stuck when I need to type password to decrypt my data - the screen just get frozen.
[15:14] <simon> I've added nomodeset, but it didn't help
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> simon: ubuntu version, card chipset and driver version please?
[15:15] <Ray^> I've got problem with ubuntu minimal installation. 12.04 and 14.04 just hang at purple screen after proxy screen. I haven't tried 15.04 or 15.10.
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> Ray^: any reason you dont install regulare ubuntu desktop?
[15:16] <nikhil_360> No gordonjcp
[15:16] <Ray^> lotuspsychje, I just want to start clean and install just packages I need.
[15:16] <nikhil_360> there is no separate volume control
[15:16] <simon> lotuspsychje, xubuntu 15.10, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M. And idk how to check my card chipset
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> Ray^: minimal is a bit expert, you might encouter unwanted issues, maybe strip down regular ubuntu?
[15:17] <Ray^> lotuspsychje, forget it, it finally started after 2 hours and 30 minutes of waiting.
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> simon: gtx 970m is your chipset :p
[15:18] <nikhil_360> @gordonjcp No.. There is no separate volume control..
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> simon: did you try other nvidia drivers like the 340 or 346?
[15:18] <simon> lotuspsychje, lol ok. I've installed nvidia-355
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> simon: try a lower version mate
[15:19] <simon> lotuspsychje, ok, I'm trying 340
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> simon: also install nvidia-prime
[15:21] <pepijndevos> I'm going crazy over aplay. I pipe sound into it, but it just keeps buffering, so the sound from the speaker is several second behind my program.
[15:22] <pepijndevos> How can I stop aplay from buffering so much?
[15:23] <simon> lotuspsychje, I've installed 340 and it didn't help. Still got the same problem. about nvidia-prime, is it related to nvidia optimus? because my PC doesn't have it (I have ASUS G752VT)
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> simon: gtx 970m is an optimuc card, so youl need nvidia-prime
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> *optimus
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> pepijndevos: maybe a tail -f /var/log/syslog might spit out some errors while you mess with aplay?
[15:26] <simon> lotuspsychje, ok, apparently I have it already. So it doesn't solve the problem
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> simon: you can use nvidia-settings to enable performance mode
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> simon: wich ubuntu version are you on mate?
[15:26] <simon> lotuspsychje, 15.10
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> kk
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> simon: when did this start to happen?
[15:27] <simon> lotuspsychje, After I've installed nvidia driver
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> simon: ok lets try something else then, sudo apt-get purge nvidia and reboot
[15:31] <mtilhan>  there is some problem at my ubuntu 14.04, after it goes to screensaver then lock screen and monitors goes to energy saving mode. at least it was like that. now if i went away like 15 minutes and when I came back, my right monitor completely closed of and left monitor is black screen with one underscore flashing at top left. it doesnt response to anything unless i try a few times quickly alt+ctrl+f7 then it goes to login screen. any 
[15:31] <simon> lotuspsychje, doesn't really help
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> simon: thats strange, try the recoverymode/fix broken packages from grub
[15:33] <nite2696> morning
[15:33] <nite2696> anyone awake
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> nite2696: 1800 users are
[15:34] <simon> lotuspsychje, I think when I've installed one of this drivers it disabled a modprobe related to X server
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> nite2696: what can we do for you?
[15:34] <daum> for iptables i'm looking for one that will have bit of thru put, so I've been told to not do state tracking.  does it do that by default?  I was thinking of basically just blocking a few ports to all but a few ips via something like : http://pastebin.com/fqu9USZR
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> simon: did you do a blacklist?
[15:34] <nite2696> do for me.. nothing..  just saying HI
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> daum: maybe the #netfilter guys can help with that?
[15:34] <daum> ah will ask there!
[15:34] <nite2696> i see, is ee
[15:35] <daum> lotuspsychje, thanks for the heads up didn't know that channel existed=)
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> daum: see also ##networking, enjoy!
[15:35] <simon> lotuspsychje, hmm, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist is empty
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> simon: ok good, try the recoverymode from grub
[15:36] <simon> lotuspsychje, I'm in it now
[15:36] <nite2696> the recovery will allow most to be re-enabled backforth'
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> simon: then do the 'fix broken packages' option
[15:36] <drdozer> Hi -- I've just installed a new gfx card. I've got my old GeForce 9800 GT and my new GeForce GTX titan X
[15:37] <drdozer> They use different NVIDIA binary drivers
[15:37] <nite2696> make sure to run an update after you 'fix broken pkgs'
[15:37] <drdozer> I'm having trouble getting both drivers installed - installing drivers for one seems to uninstall drivers for the other
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> !who | nite2696
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> drdozer: any reason you using 2 cards togheter?
[15:38] <drdozer> lotuspsychje, the 9800 GT is my old card - it works fine. The titan x is for machine learning rather than rendering
[15:38] <nite2696> most cards are proprietarily uncompatible...  they don't play nice together
[15:38] <nite2696> but if you have them playing nice in your box..  more power to you
[15:39] <nikhil_360> Hi guys, can anyone tell me why the volume is low when I play videos on my ubuntu 14.04. I'm using default movie player. Sound is fine when playing MP3 using Rhythbox .. issues only with videos.
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> nikhil_360: try vlc...
[15:39] <GFXDude> yeah, sounds like missing codecs
[15:39] <masu> try amarok
[15:40] <simon> lotuspsychje, doesn't help
[15:40] <simon> lotuspsychje, I think I'll try to reinstall the OS
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> simon: well if recoverymode doenst help...
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> simon: maybe try an LTS this time?
[15:41] <simon> lotuspsychje, yes, this was my intention too
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> simon: ok mate, good luck
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> simon: make sure your connected to internet + updates during setup
[15:42] <ken_> hey where is apache2-doc located?
[15:42] <GFXDude> I'm looking to host a .deb repo for somewhere between 5 to 25 packages. There will be atleast 5 required packages, a few important and the rest optional. Most of the documentation I find seems to be overkill to achieve this functionality; they seem to think I'd like to host every package the system needs. Has anyone done a basic repo like this? Any suggestions as to an appropriate structure?
[15:42] <bob2017> hey - what’s a good way to completely disable X from being able to start?  I can’t boot into the system, but I can access the disks
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> ken_: try whereis apache2-doc
[15:42] <ken_> oh nice thanks lotuspsychje
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> !repo | GFXDude
[15:43] <ken_> lotuspsychje, unfortunately whereis apache2-doc gives no directories... but it is installed...
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> bob2017: install ubuntu server?
[15:43] <drdozer> so is there any trick to getting two different nvidia binary drivers to take two different cards in one system?
[15:44] <drdozer> or should I be asking in another forum?
[15:44] <bob2017> lotuspsychje: no, i want to disable X on an existing installation
[15:45] <dbugger> Hi fellas. Can someone tell me what "wget -qO-" means?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> bob2017: whats your purpose with this exactly..sounds a bit weird to disable GUI from a GUI ubuntu right?
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> dbugger: can man wget show anything usefull?
[15:45] <bob2017> lotuspsychje: not really… this is one step in what’s been a very long troubleshooting process, and I’d prefer not to relate the whole history
[15:46] <dbugger> lotuspsychje, the part I do not get is the final "-". If it was just "-qO" it would be alright
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> dbugger: maybe the #wget gys might know?
[15:48] <dbugger> thnaks
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> ken_: check the #httpd guys, they might know
[15:51] <zamba> i'm trying to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04, but getting errors when trying to calculate the changes.. i've looked into /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and i see mentions of Broken packages related to mariadb and mysql.. how can i fix these?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> zamba: added ppa's?
[15:51] <nite2696> run the fix pkg and update
[15:51] <dionysus69> I need a software for screen capture + audio recording? any suggestions for easy setup?
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | dionysus69
[15:52] <zamba> lotuspsychje: yeah, i added ppas for mariadb.. but i've removed that again.. but i need mariadb installed
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> zamba: first clean out all pa's from system before you upgrade
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> ppa
[15:53] <zamba> lotuspsychje: yeah, i've removed them from the sources.list(.d/*)
[15:53] <dionysus69> thanks lotuspsychje
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> dionysus69: welcome :p
[15:53] <zamba> lotuspsychje: but still: "Could not calculate the upgrade" and "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[15:54] <zamba> lotuspsychje: the apt.log is filled with these: Broken mariadb-server-5.5:amd64 Conflicts on mysql-server-core-5.5 [ amd64 ] < none -> 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.14.04.2 > ( database )
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> zamba: maybe try apt-get clean or autoremove or something
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> zamba: or cleanout with bleachbit
[15:54] <zamba> lotuspsychje: neither did anything
[15:55] <bazhang> ppa-purge the ppa
[15:55] <zamba> bazhang: dunno what that means
[15:55] <bazhang> !ppa-purge
[15:55] <bazhang> see above
[15:56] <zamba> bazhang: will that remove mariadb?
[15:56] <bazhang> is it a ppa
[15:57] <zamba> bazhang: i really don't know
[15:58] <bazhang> what is the ubuntu version there zamba
[15:58] <BluesKaj> mariadb is in the repos
[15:58] <zamba> BluesKaj: but not the version i'm looking for, i think
[15:59] <bazhang> and whats the version of mariadb you have
[15:59] <BluesKaj> zamba, did you use appa to install mariadb?
[15:59] <zamba> http://pastebin.com/1aZEwRUL
[15:59] <zamba> this doesn't look too promising
[15:59] <BluesKaj> !mariadb
[15:59] <bazhang> ppa dont just install themselves
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !info mariadb
[16:00] <BluesKaj> odd
[16:00] <bcc> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2869-1/
[16:00] <bcc> CVE links at bottom are broken :(
[16:00] <bazhang> mariadb-client
[16:01] <BluesKaj> !mariadb-server
[16:02] <bob2017> hey… still asking, what’s a good way to disable X completely so it doesn’t even try ot start at boot?  I am accessing the disks from another machine, and can’t enter the OS even in CLI to edit them
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> bcc: report this in #ubuntu-ops please
[16:02] <bcc> ack
[16:02] <EriC^^> bob2017: you can add text to the kernel line in grub
[16:02] <EriC^^> after quiet splash
[16:02] <bob2017> eric: tried that, didn’t work.
[16:02] <EriC^^> did you update-grub ?
[16:03] <bob2017> eric: I’m not using grub
[16:04] <BluesKaj> bob2017, how are you trying to access the remote machine ?
[16:04] <bob2017> blueskaj: i’m booted on that machine into a different OS
[16:05] <smellsLikeGoatSp> is it possible to install a ubuntu version running on 2.x kernel?
[16:05] <rilleh> http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-7.1p2
[16:06] <OerHeks> smellsLikeGoatSp, no, even the oldest supported precise 12.04 got kernel 3.2
[16:06] <OerHeks> !info linux-image precise
[16:07] <asura> OerHeks, you were right earlier :P
[16:07] <BluesKaj> bob2017, sorry I don't get it
[16:08] <rilleh> When can we see the patched version of OpenSSH in the official repos?
[16:08] <smellsLikeGoatSp> DerHeks: cannot I use it without support?
[16:08] <lucidguy> should one do a full apt-get upgrade prior to do-release-upgrade?
[16:08] <bob2017> blueskaj: don’t worry about getting it :p i’m only trying to solve the very narrow problem of disabling X.
[16:08] <simon> lotuspsychje, now I've got "ACPI PCC probe failed on Ubuntu installation" on installation :(
[16:09] <simon> lotuspsychje, just "ACPI PCC probe failed"
[16:11] <ubuntu660> Ok guys Im having trouble getting wifi on my CentOS 7 any advise ?? Thanks
[16:12] <BluesKaj> bob2017, maybe a clearer explanation of how you booted into the remote machine on a different OS , would give us a clue
[16:12] <bob2017> blueskaj: there is no remote machine.
[16:12] <ubuntu660> Ok guys Im having trouble getting wifi on my CentOS 7 any advise ?? Thanks
[16:13] <bob2017> blueskaj: my question is how to disable X completely so it won’t attempt to load at boot, other than through a kernel command.  such as by modifying the startup sequence by editing a startup file, or deleting X itself.
[16:13] <zzxc> ubuntu660: /j centos ? They might be have a better idea.
[16:14] <daum> hm the networking on one of my machines doesn't seem to want to finish properly, for example the /etc/resolv.conf isn't getting set.  I'm using a config by another ubuntu machine on the same network and it works fine.  Does the networking service debug somewhere?
[16:14] <aaa801> Trying to install 15.10 on a older pc setup boots to the screen with the keyboard icon at the bottom, then goes to a black screen with no output, suggestions?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> bob2017, what about the VT/TTY , login and stopx
[16:15] <bob2017> can anyone other than blueskaj help me?  my question is how to disable X completely, where i can access the startup disk from another machine, but I can’t boot into the OS to make changes.
[16:15] <akik> bob2017: disable the login manager
[16:15] <bob2017> akik: how?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> bob2017, ok sorry to have bothered you
[16:16] <ChibaPet> bob2017: Why keep the packages installed?
[16:16] <akik> bob2017: it depends on the version of your ubuntu but either lightdm or sddm
[16:16] <bob2017> chibapet: i can’t get into the OS to uninstall them
[16:16] <taholmes160> Good Morning everyone -- I need some help figuring out how to turn on and off apache depending on the needs at the time -- at boottime if possible
[16:16] <bob2017> akik: its lightdm, but how do i disable it when i can’t get into the OS?
[16:16] <ChibaPet> if you have access to the startup disk, you have access to chroot inside of it
[16:17] <bob2017> chibapet: no, i’m booted into another OS on the same machine.  i have access to the disks, but i’m not in linux.
[16:17] <ChibaPet> What other OS can't chroot? If it's Windows I'd suspect you can't access the partitions in any event.
[16:18] <ChibaPet> Oh, never mind. I can think of examples.
[16:18] <ChibaPet> Which Ubuntu version?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> he probly has extfsd installed
[16:18] <bob2017> chiba: 15.something
[16:18] <ChibaPet> Ah, systemd. I'll have to defer to others.
[16:18] <wawrek> I would like to know if it is safe to make a system upgrade to ubuntu 16.04. "update-manager -d" says that ubuntu 16.04 is available...
[16:18] <bob2017> chibapet: its whatever is off the latest ubuntu livecd, from two days ago
[16:19] <ChibaPet> Yeah, I don't know. I'd guess "edit the unit config" but that would be handwaving on my part.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> wawrek, -d means development release
[16:19] <akik> bob2017: if you chroot you can use systemctl disable to disable the login manager. i think it would be "systemctl disable lightdm.service"
[16:19] <bob2017> akik:  i can’t chroot
[16:19] <ChibaPet> bob2017: Oh, um. I think the target can be graphical or merely multiuser, and that's a symlink somewhere.
[16:20] <bob2017> chibapet: sounds right, can you be more specific?
[16:20] <ChibaPet> I'd chase down that idea if it were me.
[16:20] <ChibaPet> bob2017: I'd have to Google. Let's Google together.
[16:20] <wawrek> BluesKaj: I know - a dev release may be workable though..
[16:20] <akik> bob2017: oh well sorry i didn't follow you from the start
[16:20] <bob2017> chibapet: ok…. let’s do it at the asme time…. go!
[16:20] <BluesKaj> wawrek, 16.04 is not recommended for production machines
[16:21] <wawrek> thanks
[16:22] <BluesKaj> if you're a home user and feel adventurous then update and upgrade your 15.10 packages first , then upgrade -d
[16:22] <BluesKaj> wawrek,^
[16:22] <ChibaPet> bob2017: Look at /etc/systemd/system/default.target maybe
[16:22] <ChibaPet> I don't have a box with systemd handy to confirm.
[16:23] <ChibaPet> http://www.dynacont.net/documentation/linux/Useful_SystemD_commands/ suggests something along the lines of # ln -sf /lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target /etc/systemd/system/default.target
[16:24] <ChibaPet> Note that my personal experience with systemd has shown that symlink issues can result in non-booting systems. (I was trying to chase down a backlight bug at the time.)
[16:24] <ChibaPet> Then again, you're booted from another OS, so fixing that wouldn't be a problem.
[16:25] <ChibaPet> Anyway, time to commute. Good luck.
[16:25] <daum> this is weird, so my machine can get to other machines on my same network, but it can't "see" the outside world, i can't ping an outside ip....any ideas what would cause that?  i'dthink it'd be the gateway is incorrect or something but that doens't seem to be it
[16:26] <bob2017> chibapet: wow i don’t know who came up with this systemd thing but… well can i just delete things from that directory to make them not launch?  like display manager?  etc?
[16:27] <ChibaPet> bob2017: You're lucky I had to finish something before leaving. No, that'd probably be awful breakage. Just change your default.target.
[16:27] <bob2017> chibapet right now default.target.wants is a directory with a ureadahead symlink and that’s it
[16:27] <ChibaPet> If whatever you're using to access can't make a symlink in the target filesystem, as a stopgap I'd imagine coping the file in would suffice.
[16:27] <ChibaPet> Pastebin that? bpaste.net please?
[16:28] <bob2017> chibapet: i was thinking more like maybe delete the X executables
[16:29] <bob2017> chibapet: or change some startup script to comment out the line to launch X
[16:29] <ChibaPet> bob2017: Welcome to systemd. There is no startup script.
[16:29] <ChibaPet> Anyway, I really do have to go now, but there are people in here who know systemd far better than I do who will surely help.
[16:29] <BluesKaj> no desktop , no X ?
[16:29] <ChibaPet> Have a good one!
[16:30] <ubuntu_marian> Hey guys, ubuntu noob here! Can someone help me repair my grub safely? Have some important files in there
[16:30] <nbusrone> Does anyone know a a cloning application beside clonezilla ?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> nbusrone, read up on dd
[16:31] <solvarr> ubuntu_marian: try boot repair
[16:31] <krcevina> Can I somehow determine is my I/O blocking or non-blocking. Is there a flag that can be forwarded as the input parameter to system calls or some system setting or something?
[16:32] <ubuntu_marian> @solvarr: it's not working, it's stucked
[16:32] <noelia> Hello everyone
[16:32] <Zumbido> BluesKaj dd = disk destroyer :p
[16:32] <noelia> I'm having some problems when setting up a Gmail account on Evolution, I need some help, please.
[16:33] <ubuntu_marian> solvar: tried sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt but i got "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda3"
[16:33] <BluesKaj> Zumbido, I've used it successfully many times, but you have to be careful and make sure you set the command correctly ...dd= digital dump
[16:34] <solvarr> is that /dev/sdXY ext4?
[16:34] <ubuntu_marian> yes, it is
[16:34] <ubuntu_marian> got this from gparted: "e2label: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda3
[16:34] <ubuntu_marian> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock."
[16:36] <ubuntu_marian> solvarr: can i provide some other info that can help you find the problem?
[16:39] <TxS_PRIME> Can anyone diagnose a possible disk space problem... I have allocated 15GB to an Ubuntu Server VM, and have 5TB left on the host drive, however when on the guest machine (the Ubuntu Server) it shoots me 0x202 errors when trying to use SteamCMD to install a dedicated game server only about 4GB in size. Here are my "df -h" results:  http://paste.ubun
[16:39] <TxS_PRIME> tu.com/14497035/
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> TxS_PRIME: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can be of any assitance?
[16:44] <zamba> how can i check from where a package was downloaded and installed?
[16:46] <tony_> hello
[16:46] <bittin-> hi
[16:47] <tony_> what is the latest news on ubuntu 15.10?
[16:47] <k1l> zamba: "apt-cache policy packagename"
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> zamba: maybe apt-cache policy yourpackage ?
[16:47] <jackcom> how can i install ruby on ubuntu?
[16:47] <k1l> tony_: what you mean with "latest news on ubutnu 15.10"?
[16:47] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes tony_
[16:48] <nacc> jackcom: apt-get install ruby?
[16:48] <BABA111>  irc.underunix.net
[16:48] <jackcom> nacc: ?
[16:48] <zamba> ok, another question.. how do i downgrade a package?
[16:48] <nacc> jackcom: that's how you install ruby on ubuntu, afaict
[16:48] <tony_> are there any newer apps that have come out since 15.04
[16:49] <jackcom> afaict? nacc ?
[16:49] <nacc> zamba: i'd recommend you read `man apt-get`
[16:49] <nacc> jackcom: afaict = as far as I can tell
[16:49] <k1l> zamba: can you give more informations? downgrading is not really meant to be done. so it depends on the issue
[16:49] <jackcom> yes, how? nacc
[16:49] <zamba> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14497085/
[16:49] <zamba> k1l: i have some version discrepancies with mariadb
[16:50] <nacc> jackcom: the command you are looking for is 'apt-get', to install ruby, you'd run 'apt-get install ruby'
[16:50] <zamba> k1l: which is preventing me from upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04
[16:50] <zamba> k1l: i want to bring all mariadb-* versions down to 5.5.44
[16:50] <k1l> zamba: seems like the 23media repo is rubbish
[16:50] <jackcom> nacc: thanks
[16:50] <zamba> k1l: http://mirror.23media.de/mariadb/repo/5.5/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mariadb-5.5/
[16:50] <zamba> k1l: it has 5.5.47, but for some reason it's not installed
[16:51] <k1l> zamba: run a "apt-get update" first
[16:51] <zamba> k1l: already have
[16:51] <tgm4883> zamba: you would need to specify the full version for each package, eg. 'apt-get install mariadb-server=1.2.3.4-0ubuntu3'
[16:51] <zamba> tgm4883: tried that
[16:51] <zamba> k1l: i found another mirror.. i'll try that
[16:52] <tgm4883> zamba: what happened?
[16:52] <zamba> tgm4883: said that the package was already at the newest version
[16:52] <jackcom> gem install gruff
[16:52] <jackcom> Fetching: rmagick-2.15.4.gem (100%)
[16:52] <jackcom> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Errno::EACCES)
[16:52] <jackcom>     Permission denied - /var/lib/gems     <— nacc how can i do>
[16:52] <jackcom> ?
[16:53] <tgm4883> zamba: then you didn't do it right. I'd want to see output including the command you ran
[16:53] <zamba> k1l: yeah, you're right.. the repo was rubbish.. used another and i got all my versions up to 5.5.47
[16:53] <nacc> jackcom: you probably need to be root, or be in an appropriate group to install new gems
[16:53] <zamba> tgm4883: probably not.. but now i got it working :)
[16:53] <jackcom> oh thanks nacc
[16:54] <Luke-Jr> fyi ubuntu-12.04.5-server-amd64.iso is completely broken and cannot be installed
[16:54] <Luke-Jr> it's missing some kernel module that it won't start the install without
[16:54] <Guest75098> hey
[16:55] <k1l> Luke-Jr: did you check the md5sum and what modules are you talking about? and why not use the 14.04 lts?
[16:55] <Luke-Jr> k1l: I was trying to reproduce the Travis build environment; I don't recall what the module name was, something about crypto
[17:01] <anonymous> hi
[17:01] <anonymous> any spanish)))
[17:01] <anonymous> ?
[17:01] <teward> !es | anonymous
[17:01] <teward> i think
[17:02] <sudomarize> is it possible to get vim sytanx hightlighting through ssh?
[17:02] <Seminarian> question guys
[17:02] <Seminarian> howcome "grep -r 'test' *" doesn't search all directories and "grep -r 'test' ." does?
[17:03] <nacc> Seminarian: hrm, they both work here; maybe it depends on your shell
[17:03] <Seminarian> nacc: my shell is bash
[17:04] <nacc> Seminarian: hrm, it works in bash for me too
[17:05] <nacc> Seminarian: I've never experienced the behavior you're expressing though
[17:05] <nacc> Seminarian: the '*' is shell expanded. I guess you could see if, e.g., `ls *` expands
[17:05] <sudomarize> got it
[17:05] <teward> Seminarian: * expands to every file in the list; why wouldn't you just say "Search here in this location" with . and use * which expands to a long string of everything in the folder?
[17:07] <Seminarian> teward: I thought I'm not using the * in a regular expression but just in a shell-wildcard manner
[17:08] <Globalirc> hello all. know somebody how to set a simple reverse dns on my ubuntu 15.04 ?
[17:08] <teward> Seminarian: Bash expands *
[17:08] <teward> so if you type in this, it would expand * to be everything in the current working dir: grep -r 'test' *
[17:09] <teward> so then you get grep -r 'test' a b c d e f g h folder1 evil darkfolder ...
[17:09] <teward> Seminarian: whereas you want to grep recursively from the current directory and through all subdirs, you specify the 'base' for your search to start at, i.e. the current working directory, with: grep -r 'test' .
[17:09] <Seminarian> teward: yes but the -r seems to have lost it's meaning?
[17:10] <Seminarian> teward: okay thanks man I think I understand the nuance
[17:10] <Seminarian> teward: it ignores the -r option with the *
[17:10] <teward> Seminarian: I'm not sure 'recursive' from the -r works as intended when you mix in individual filenames, it's entirely possible it doesn't work - the EASIER way is to just specify the base directory ("This current directory I am in") with .
[17:11] <teward> Seminarian: potentially, yes, but I'm not sure, as I learned that you should provide a full folder path to search in, or 'current directory' with .
[17:11] <teward> Seminarian: potentially, yes, but I'm not sure, as I learned that you should provide a full folder path to search in, or 'current directory' with .
[17:11] <teward> blah
[17:11] <teward> (saves such nuances and headaches of having to deal with Bash expansions)
[17:11] <teward> ^ that's what i meant :P
[17:12] <Seminarian> teward: cool thanks mate
[17:12] <ubuntu660> Ok guys Im having trouble getting wifi on my CentOS 7 any advise ?? Thanks
[17:14] <k1l> ubuntu660: obviously ask the centos guys. :/
[17:19] <squidhead> I'm trying to install apache2.2 on 14.04 using precise sources, but I keep getting the errors saying dependencies can't be met.  Any pointers on how to get past it?  I'm following instructions here: http://blog.thestateofme.com/2015/07/23/apache-2-2-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[17:20] <teward> squidhead: why do you need 2.2?
[17:20] <teward> squidhead: mixing and matching the repository sources is also a bad thing to do, so you're likely to break things
[17:21] <squidhead> teward: long story, but need to keep version of apache a 2.2 for app compatability.  Trying to upgrade an old 10.04 box on EC2 and ran into virtualization issues (need to convert to HVM)
[17:22] <teward> squidhead: and going from 10.04 to 12.04 wasn't an option?
[17:22] <rom1504> people still use 10.04 oO
[17:22] <teward> rom1504: they shouldn't it EOL'd.
[17:22] <rom1504> I guess they came to 2015 with a time travel machine
[17:23] <squidhead> teward: figured might as well jump to the latest LTS version
[17:23] <teward> squidhead: just use 12.04.  Mixing and matching repositories the way that page suggests is ***BAD***
[17:23] <teward> and you WILL get all the mismatched dependency issues
[17:23] <shibboleth> Anyone come across a list of fglrx (amd gpu linux driver) module parameters?
[17:23] <teward> squidhead: and in 2017 when 12.04 EOLs, either replace or update your app
[17:24] <squidhead> teward: if it can do HVM, then it may be a good option
[17:25] <teward> squidhead: i believe it can but don't quote me.  If your application can't work on 2.4 or newer, though, the app should be rejected and updated, or replaced
[17:25] <Joel> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20160114142733 - is this fix available for 14.04 yet?
[17:25] <squidhead> teward: ideally I wouldn't have to start over and can stay on 14.04
[17:26] <squidhead> teward: bigger project for another day
[17:27] <k1l> Joel: there were some openssh updates just now
[17:27] <Joel> k1l, link to where I can read more by chance?
[17:28] <k1l> Joel: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0778.html  and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0777.html
[17:28] <squidhead> teward: thanks for the advice
[17:28] <Joel> k1l, thanks
[17:28] <k1l> Joel: you can search on ubuntu.com/usn
[17:28] <ajf> I'm logging into my server and getting "Could not load list of meta packages: [Errno 12] Cannot allocate memory". nginx won't start. Yet there's only 5% memory in use. Any idea what's happening?
[17:28] <ajf> It was running fine until I ran apt-get upgrade and rebooted
[17:28] <squidhead> teward: I'll check out 12.04 and see if it supports HVM.  would buy us time to upgrade the entire stack
[17:28] <ajf> Now it's just broken.
[17:29] <squidhead> teward: which is on the radar
[17:30] <ajf> Oh. nginx was borked because I deleted its logfile folder
[17:30] <squidhead> teward: yep, found a 12.04 AMI which is HVM.... back to the drawing board. :)
[17:31] <ajf> hey, what's the banner program that runs when you SSH in?
[17:32] <ajf> the one that displays the advert for Launchpad, the memory usage, what needs upgrading, etc.
[17:34] <OerHeks> ajf, motd i think
[17:35] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/23246/how-do-i-edit-the-ssh-motd
[17:36] <bramgn> touch .hushlogin :-)
[17:36] <ajf> OerHeks: bramgn: I'm trying to find the actual program Ubuntu uses
[17:36] <ajf> so I can debug the error message
[17:37] <ajf> setting my own static one is not what I'm after
[17:37] <ajf> (also, so I can maybe set up that banner for `mosh` :)
[17:38] <bramgn> ajf: ah ok
[17:39] <ajf> oh, OerHeks, I thought that was a different link I'd previously clicked. that's helpful, thank you
[17:39] <OerHeks> The output you see is created by landscape-sysinfo, remove it, and follow the guide to create your own
[17:40] <ajf> I think the problem is actually 90-updates-available
[17:41] <ajf> nope
[17:42] <ajf> aha, the problem is /etc/update-motd.d/91-release-upgrade
[17:44] <ajf> hmm, okay
[17:44] <ajf> it's not updating the part of the MOTD containing an error message, because it's too recent
[17:44] <ajf> so I need to backdate the file
[17:44] <ajf> or just delete it perhaps
[17:46] <scootero> hello
[17:46] <ajf> aha, now it has no error :)
[17:47] <scootero> pretty quiet here
[17:47] <lucidguy> should one do a full apt-get upgrade prior to do-release-upgrade.  Does it really matter?
[17:48] <ajf> lucidguy: can hardly hurt
[17:48] <k1l> lucidguy: run it, better you spot issues then instead of the release upgrade
[17:49] <ajf> yeah, it's not like upgrades take long
[17:56] <et09> i'm looking for an mp3 player that'll let me do filesystem browsing in a tree view.. is there one?
[18:02] <simon> Hi, I want that when I encrypt my hard drive, to see the console (like recovery mode) instead of splash screen. Is this possible?
[18:02] <smog123> et09: i think vlc has a feature called 'display playlist tree' via 'Tools->Preferences'
[18:03] <zykotick9> simon: not entirely sure what you mean, but try remove "quiet splash" from your boot option, and you'll see the console output as you boot.
[18:07] <simon> zykotick9, thank you. It helped me very much!
[18:12] <Seminarian> Goodevening, in the manpages I see shorthand option and longhand options. The long-hand options sometimes consist out of a part lowercas and then '=' + uppercase-part. Is the uppercase part supposed to be filled in if you use the command?
[18:12] <Seminarian> e.g. "-k, --key=KEYDEF"
[18:13] <vooze> Does anyone know which the font the "default emojis" come from? http://imgur.com/A8Eqv0u (they are the ones in red, rest is nota-emoji. I want to remove the old ones and replace them with all noto(google emoji)
[18:13] <pauli1> hi fans!
[18:13] <pauli1> thx for the new 16.04 release!
[18:14] <compdoc> np
[18:14] <vooze> pauli1, what???
[18:14] <pauli1> :-D
[18:14] <pauli1> 8-)
[18:14] <pauli1> i am no spy
[18:14] <k1l> 16.04 is not released yet.
[18:14] <pauli1> 16.04 is under my investigation
[18:15] <bramgn> Seminarian: no, you should substitute the uppercase part
[18:15] <pauli1> i heard about great plans to bake a lot of bread and throw it after all known and unknown enemies?
[18:16] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[18:16] <Seminarian> bramgn: that's what i meant. Thanks!
[18:21] <pauli1> hi?
[18:21] <k1l> !guidelines > pauli1 make sure to read them if you want to continue in using this channel
[18:21] <pauli1> y?
[18:22] <dunpeal> Hi. Ubuntu seems very popular for developer workstations / laptops, so I'd expect Ubuntu Server to be a very popular choice for production servers. However, it is not. Why?
[18:22] <pauli1> i dunno! it wasn t me!
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> dunpeal: what do you mean its not?
[18:23] <dunpeal> lotuspsychje: afaict, popular server choices include Debian and some RHEL distros, but I don't hear of so many people using Ubuntu Server in production.
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> dunpeal: wrongly informed
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> !server | dunpeal
[18:24] <dunpeal> i.e. Ubuntu is dominant on desktop / laptop for Linux users, but doesn't seem to be dominant for servers.
[18:24] <k1l> dunpeal: wikipedia runs on ubuntu servers. a lot of cloud business run on ubuntu servers. its really huge
[18:24] <dunpeal> k1l: interesting. which cloud businesses run on Ubuntu?
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> dunpeal: check the article 10 reasons why ubuntu is killing it in the cloud
[18:25] <k1l> dunpeal: see http://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2016/01/12/10-reasons-why-ubuntu-is-killing-it-in-the-cloud/?utm_source=GooglePlus&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Forbes10Reasons#2715e4857a0b5bc2459919a2  for some stats
[18:25] <mhmd> hi all
[18:29] <dunpeal> klimt, lotuspsychje: thanks
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> dunpeal: think you mean k1l
[18:30] <dunpeal> yes, k1l
[18:30] <dunpeal> sorry
[18:33] <scootero> hello there
[18:36] <vooze> Does anyone know which the font the "default emojis" come from? http://imgur.com/A8Eqv0u (they are the ones in red, rest is nota-emoji. I want to remove the old ones and replace them with all noto(google emoji)
[18:38] <cilu> alguem consegue instalar o cowpatty no ubuntu?
[18:38] <cilu> tenho a suite wifite, mas não tem o cowpatty. Consome muito mais tempo assim....
[18:39] <k1l> !pt | cilu
[18:42] <k1l> !rootirc > Guest65839
[18:43] <Sansay_> hey guys, is it possible to tar a folder, and while the tar happens delete all the files which are added into the tar? Or is this a bad idea?
[18:44] <izoell> lur
[18:45] <goddard> how can i use policykit files with qt creator?
[19:01] <theperfectpunk> what package provides zconf.h?
[19:02] <dunpeal> k1l, lotuspsychje: I didn't know Ubuntu Server was this popular.
[19:03] <dunpeal> "Netflix, Uber, Lyft, Dropbox, Paypal, Snapchat, Pinterest, Reddit, and Instagram" is a pretty impressive list of deployments.
[19:03] <dunpeal> I guess part of the reason is that most sysadmins I talk to are the older, more senior type who still prefer tools they've been using for years before.
[19:03] <theperfectpunk> anybody?
[19:04] <dunpeal> For them, RHEL and Debian are the only real options. Ubuntu wasn't really a rival to those back then.
[19:04] <Pici> theperfectpunk: its part of your linux-headers-$(version) pacakge
[19:04] <k1l> theperfectpunk: more context, more win: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&section=all&arch=any&keywords=zconf.h&searchon=contents
[19:05] <theperfectpunk> Pici: thanx :)
[19:05] <fibes> dunpeal are those know companies using it currently?
[19:06] <graft> hey all, anyone know wher ei can get sources for utopic? us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists doesn't have it, i'm not sure why?
[19:06] <dunpeal> fibes: yeah, it's in the article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/janakirammsv/2016/01/12/10-reasons-why-ubuntu-is-killing-it-in-the-cloud
[19:06] <fibes> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/01/13/att-selects-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-enterprise-applications/
[19:06] <fibes> that is what im working on this year
[19:06] <k1l> graft: utopic is end of life.
[19:06] <fibes> so add another to the list, att
[19:07] <graft> k1l: meaning there are no sources left? how am i supposed to upgrade?
[19:07] <k1l> !eol | upgrades
[19:07] <graft> k1l: thanks much
[19:07] <k1l> graft: even 15.04 is EOL end if this month. so if you dont like upgrading every 6 months better stay on LTS
[19:08] <graft> k1l: yeah, i'll get with it :)
[19:08] <jbwiv> all, I've gotten myself in a position where /boot is full and apt is asking me to "apt-get install -f" after I tried purging some of the extra kernel packages
[19:08] <jbwiv> but apt-get install -f won't complete because boot it full and it's trying to install a new kernel there
[19:08] <jbwiv> how can I get around this?
[19:09] <graft> jbwiv: delete old images in boot by hand is probably fine
[19:10] <graft> jbwiv: i.e. if it's not the initrd for your current kernel, you probably don't need it
[19:10] <k1l> jbwiv: please put into a pastebin site a "ls -lsh /boot"
[19:10] <jbwiv> ok, I thought of that but didn't know if it'd screw with apt's head
[19:10] <k1l> and show a "uname -a" and your result of "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:11] <graft> jbwiv: should be fine, i've had to do the same several times for the same reason
[19:11] <graft> jbwiv: just make sure not to delete your current kernel's image
[19:12] <jbwiv> k1l: thanks, but I think in know where you're going. the situation is this: I've cleaned up the older kernels, it put apt in state where it needs "apt-get install -f", but one of the things apt-get thinks it needs to do to fix things is  install a new kernel in /boot, which is full
[19:12] <jbwiv> chicken and the egg
[19:12] <jbwiv> i'll try manual deletions
[19:13] <TJ-> jbwiv: identify old kernel *versions* you no longer require, then do "sudo dpkg --remove linux-{image,headers}-<VERSION>" to remove the packages correctly
[19:18] <ElTimo> How do I disable the touchpad while typing on 15.10? And as a followup, why the f*ck would you ever remove an option like that?
[19:19] <bhalash> ElTimo: Try: syndaemon -i 1.0 -K -R -t
[19:20] <bhalash> ElTimo: From: https://askubuntu.com/questions/530937/how-can-i-disable-touchpad-while-typing-in-ubuntu-14-04
[19:20] <theperfectpunk> is there a seperate repository for i386 in ubuntu server that needs to be enabled?
[19:21] <theperfectpunk> i can't get the package libncurses5-dev:i386
[19:22] <eelstrebor> heh, linksys.org has locked me out supposedly for DOS attack - i guess i need to run a rootkit scan since i'm not trying to do that (never have)
[19:22] <bhalash> l337 h4xx0r
[19:22] <Sansay_> Hey guys, if i scp a large folder, is it possible that one of the files being transferred can fail to transfer?
[19:22] <Sansay_> any idea what happens in this case?
[19:24] <theperfectpunk> anybody?
[19:25] <k1l> theperfectpunk: no, no seperate 32bit repo.
[19:25] <k1l> theperfectpunk: ubuntu is multiarch. so i bet the software you want to run cant handle it
[19:25] <bhalash> Sansay_: I usually retry, or use a shell script to upload in chunks
[19:26] <K1rk> theperfectpunk, which ubuntu version are you running?
[19:26] <bhalash> Sansay_: Could always checksum before and after if you are feeling careful
[19:26] <gez> hello. I am trying to run edubuntu 14.04 for the first time
[19:27] <gez> and i cannot seem to get a student account to be created..
[19:27] <gez> can anyone help me?
[19:27] <theperfectpunk> Ubuntu 14.04
[19:27] <mariakaplovik> hi
[19:27] <theperfectpunk> gez: what is going wrong?
[19:27] <mariakaplovik> i hve seen some indians in whtsapp that they add many contacts at once in a group
[19:27] <mariakaplovik> how do they do that
[19:28] <mariakaplovik> i want to learn about things
[19:28] <gez> hi there. i have read that the option for the edu desktop should pop when logging in
[19:28] <mariakaplovik> with experienced ppl
[19:28] <k1l> mariakaplovik: this it not the whatsapp help. please ask them
[19:28] <gez> so far only ubuntu loads
[19:28] <Sansay_> bhalash can i checksum a directory?
[19:28] <gez> and none of the edu apps will open in it
[19:28] <Sansay_> directory with many files
[19:28] <mariakaplovik> is there any room for that? k1l
[19:28] <uland> Sansay_: I think it is possible, could you provide some more details? Like any reporting, logs? How many times? Something strange happened? If it is important, you probably should check the data integrity anyway.
[19:28] <k1l> mariakaplovik: i dont think on freenode
[19:29] <bhalash> Sansay_: for foo in *.* do; checksum <whatever the command is> $foo >> checksums.list; done
[19:29] <mariakaplovik> where then?
[19:29] <mariakaplovik> can u tell me here or in pvt
[19:29] <mariakaplovik> plz?
[19:29] <K1rk> theperfectpunk, http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libncurses5-dev
[19:29] <theperfectpunk> gez: could you open a terminal and type in lsb_release -l
[19:29] <k1l> mariakaplovik: see their website.
[19:29] <uland> s/times/files
[19:29] <K1rk> theperfectpunk, it appears it should be there and there should be an i386 version.
[19:29] <theperfectpunk> lsb_release -a
[19:29] <theperfectpunk> yes
[19:29] <mariakaplovik> [k1l] no , its not allowed in whatsapp official bc its about mods
[19:29] <K1rk> theperfectpunk, you could always download the .deb manually and install it with dpkg -i... http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ncurses/libncurses5-dev_5.9+20140118-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[19:30] <theperfectpunk> k1rk: yea i could do that
[19:30] <k1l> !alis | mariakaplovik this is not a topic for #ubuntu since its not anyway related to ubuntu support
[19:30] <gez> no lsb modules are available
[19:30] <Sansay_> im thinking it might be better for me to create a tarball, from my remote server. basically i have 1 servers server a and server b, i want to use server b to tar a folder on server a without using diskspace/resources on server a
[19:31] <mariakaplovik> */msg alis help list*
[19:31] <gez> description ubuntu 14.04 .  when i log it says edubuntu on the login screen but nothing further seems t have happened
[19:32] <eelstrebor> no rootkits found - no other websites complaining so it must've been a false positive
[19:33] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" show i386 enabled?
[19:34] <mariakaplovik> my english is awful
[19:36] <Sansay_> does anyone know if i can partition a filesystem drive while the system is booted?
[19:37] <theperfectpunk> gez: it will look like regular ubuntu, just the repo and packages will differ
[19:37] <bhalash> Sansay_: Yeah, but it's a pretty metal thing to do and nobody sane would try
[19:37] <TJ-> Sansay_: under some circumstances, yes. Not if you're going to alter a partition that is currently in use (by a mounted file-system, or LVM, dm_raid, dm_crypt, etc.)
[19:37] <k1l> Sansay_: dont change partitions that are mounted.
[19:37] <jedix> TJ-: I've decided that the usb bluetooth dongle is broken
[19:37] <jedix> TJ-: it works sometimes, but not for long
[19:37] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: no output
[19:37] <jedix> and only in one usb port
[19:37] <TJ-> jedix: really? did btusb try to init it?
[19:37] <theperfectpunk> shows nothing
[19:38] <Sansay_> ah okay
[19:38] <jedix> TJ-: yeah, sometimes it works!
[19:38] <jedix> only sometimes
[19:38] <bhalash> Sansay_: You could unmount and change partitons that the OS isn't using.
[19:38] <theperfectpunk> gez: what are you looking for?
[19:38] <jedix> I've ordered a new one for 10$, different type.  I hope it works better
[19:38] <TJ-> theperfectpunk: ok, you need to add the i386 arch to be able to install the 32-bit packages: "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update" to get the 32-bit package lists; then you can "apt-get install <package>:i386"
[19:39] <TJ-> jedix: that's an annoying bug to pin-point!
[19:39] <jedix> TJ-: it's frustrating because the ps3 controller ocnnects then the usb dongle disappears and the controller stops
[19:39] <theperfectpunk> TJ-: thanx
[19:39] <TJ-> jedix: I hope the new device doesn't use a chipset that breaks BT in other ways!
[19:39] <jedix> I watched -n1 hcitool dev, and saw it drop off..
[19:40] <TJ-> jedix: I was quite impressed you have a USB Bluetooth class device; was thinking that's just what I need :)
[19:42] <gez> i am looking for a way to make this edubuntu install work ... it is all there but there is a problem somewhere..  i am a school teachr and was told it was easy. i am esperienced in ubuntu
[19:43] <oswin> what happens with the installation?
[19:43] <oswin> hell by the way everyone
[19:43] <oswin> hello
[19:44] <bhalash> \o
[19:44] <shlant> hi all. I have a problem with high disk io when cron.daily is run on ubuntu. Any idea which of these might be causing that? it's not logrotate or mlocate
[19:44] <shlant> apport  aptitude      dpkg       man-db   ntp     popularity-contest      upstart
[19:44] <shlant> apt     bsdmainutils  logrotate  mlocate  passwd  update-notifier-common
[19:44] <shlant> or any way to test each individually?
[19:44] <bhalash> Run each task individually
[19:45] <bhalash> A cron job is just a shell command with a timer attached
[19:45] <shlant> what's the easiest way to do that?
[19:45] <Pici> shlant: honestly I would have thought it was logrotate or mlocate... :/
[19:45] <shlant> yea me too
[19:45] <bhalash> Find command in crontab, run job
[19:45] <bhalash> shlant: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-show-what-cron-jobs-are-setup/
[19:46] <theperfectpunk> gez: remove and reinstall edubuntu-desktop
[19:46] <shlant> bhalash: thanks
[19:46] <gez> i have done so - i will try again
[19:46] <oswin> did you check your usb?
[19:46] <TJ-> gez: reinstall is rarely necessary. Try describing the symptoms exactly and we may be able to help
[19:46] <theperfectpunk> exactly
[19:47] <bhalash> shlant: mlocale and anything that compacts log files are good culprits
[19:47] <bhalash> shlant: Is this on a server or home machine?
[19:47] <shlant> server. I tried chmod -x'ing logrotate and mlocate and it still happened but I will test again
[19:50] <stunts513> I can't seem to get my nvme fakeraid to show up, i think i have traced it down to the ahci driver lacking support and wonder if anyone has had a simlar issue or knows of any patches.
[19:50] <anabain> A simple one: is it possible to query the pwd via qdbus for the konsole app? If yes, how it's done?
[19:50] <TJ-> stunts513: we've seen a few issues where the device doesn't actually declare itself as an NVMe class PCI device
[19:51] <TJ-> stunts513: what does "lspci -nn" report for the device ?
[19:51] <stunts513> yea this is one of those cases, its a z170 chipsette so when in raid its supposed to remap as a sata device
[19:52] <TJ-> stunts513: from my logs:
[19:52] <TJ-> 2015-12-23 00:39:12      TJ-     the quick NVMe SSD is-supported check in future. Identifty the SATA controller's device class and if it isn't [0802] as shown by "lspci -nn" the nvme driver won't touch it
[19:53] <stunts513> the only storage controller that will list itself is the sata raid controller
[19:53] <stunts513> i can't exactly do an lspci at the moment, i can run a live os but my wifi drivers are also bugged
[19:53] <stunts513> so i am in windows currently
[19:53] <stunts513> but i can tell you what i remeber from memory
[19:53] <TJ-> stunts513: use the Windows Device Manager then; you can view the PCI IDs in the Details section
[19:54] <stunts513> in windows the ssd's don't register, it just see's it as a intel raid 0 volume
[19:54] <stunts513> o wait you mean the raid?
[19:55] <stunts513> er controller*
[19:55] <scootero> hmmm
[19:56] <stunts513> TJ: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&CC_0104
[19:56] <WeiJunLi> I have removed a file, rm -f
[19:56] <WeiJunLi> how can I get it back?
[19:56] <WeiJunLi> is it possible?
[19:56] <stunts513> i think thats what you were asking for
[19:57] <Pici> !undelete | WeiJunLi maybe
[19:57] <georges> bonsoir
[19:58] <ManUtd27> s
[19:59] <WeiJunLi> Pici: how do I get that comand !undelete
[19:59] <stunts513> TJ-: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2822&CC_0104, if you were asking for the raid controller's info this is it
[19:59] <k1l> WeiJunLi: see the bots text
[19:59] <Pici> WeiJunLi: you don't, read the links that ubottu just gave you.
[20:04] <salamanderrake> how do I disable super-l being the launcher button?
[20:04] <salamanderrake> well launcher search
[20:15] <bhalash> salamanderrake: https://askubuntu.com/questions/247331/how-do-i-remove-customize-unity-keyboard-shortcuts
[20:15] <sruli> TJ-: hi, any update on the PAM close_session?
[20:19] <Niilos> Hello ! I'm stuck on my ubuntu laptop. I can't log in in tty or X login screen.
[20:20] <Niilos> I typed my password many times so I'm sure I don't fail typing it
[20:20] <Niilos> I typed it in the name field to be sure my keyboard layout is the good one and it's ok
[20:20] <bhalash> Niilos: So what's the error? "I can't login" isn't anything we can diagnose
[20:21] <Niilos> I tried in the TTYs it's the same
[20:21] <Niilos> I enter my password, press enter and it say : "wrong password"
[20:22] <bhalash> Niilos: So reset your pasasword. Boot into single user mode via your bootloader and reset
[20:22] <Niilos> ok I try
[20:22] <k1l> Niilos: make sure caps is not on
[20:22] <TJ-> stunts513: I'd guess "CC_0104" is the device class; 01xx is a disk controller interface, whereas NVE should be 0x0802
[20:23] <TJ-> sruli: not seen anything, I think the devs responsible have other things on
[20:23] <sruli> Np, tnx
[20:23] <stunts513> TJ-: yea 0104 is the class, i confirmed that much in linux last time i was booted into it.
[20:24] <stunts513> i don't see the nvme driver as what needs to load though, because from what i have read it should be being remapped as sate
[20:24] <stunts513> sata*
[20:24] <studdentt> how can i reset a device?   such as /dev/ttyUSB0 without rebooting ?
[20:24] <TJ-> stunts513: if it masquarades as a regular disk controller then the NMV benefits will be lost
[20:25] <stunts513> not sure about that, i still get 3gbps sequential read rates
[20:26] <TJ-> stunts513: on Linux?
[20:26] <stunts513> windows
[20:26] <tknguyen> hi all :) i'm using ubuntu 14.04 and gdb is TOTALLY BROKEN. when i try to run my program, it says, for instance my program called "pointers": Cannot exec /home/tknguyen/foo/pointers -c exec /home/tknguyen/foo/pointers -- it looks to me like gdb is trying to use my program as a shell!
[20:26] <TJ-> stunts513: well, that'll be because there's a specific Windows driver for it
[20:26] <tknguyen> i've been using gdb for ten years so unless the basic invocation of "gdb ./myprogram ^M run" has changed, this is ridiculous. why does ubuntu neglect developers so often???
[20:27] <TJ-> stunts513: I doubt the Windows device-class driver for NVMe is controlling that device
[20:27] <stunts513> TJ-: the driver its using is like 14.6 verison of the intel rst driver for the raid storage
[20:27] <stunts513> thats the only driver it uses for my storage controllers
[20:28] <stunts513> from what i read windows wouldnt even see the raid unless you are on a fairly recent version of the rst drivers
[20:28] <tknguyen> sorry i just tried it on another ubuntu 14.04 computer and it did not have the same problem, so i think the guy using this computer has messed up his gdb
[20:28] <TJ-> stunts513: right, so Intel RST, which presumably 'knows' how to look after that particular device
[20:28] <SaturnMir> Is Budgie-Desktop any good on Ubuntu now? I know it is still quite new...
[20:29] <stunts513> in linux the same controller is relying off the achi module to operate
[20:29] <stunts513> which seems to partially work but only for my standard secondary hard drive
[20:29] <TJ-> tknguyen: are you using "gdb --args ..." ?
[20:29] <k1l> SaturnMir: its not in the repos so far. you need their PPA for that
[20:29] <tknguyen> TJ-, nope, just "gdb ./pointers"
[20:30] <tknguyen> TJ-, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8856695
[20:30] <TJ-> tknguyen: "gdb --help" => "--args             Arguments after executable-file are passed to inferior"
[20:31] <SaturnMir> K1l is it worth it? I have been using Linux for about a month now...studying CS at Uni...so doing a lot of coding. I am using MATE at the moment but I was debating trying either Awesome/Scrotwm or Budgie...any suggestions?
[20:31] <tknguyen> TJ-, however, i have not issued any extra arguments to the command i wish to debug
[20:32] <TJ-> tknguyen: what is 'pointers' then? "file pointers"
[20:32] <TJ-> tknguyen: Oh, I see it , never  mind
[20:32] <tknguyen> TJ-, it's just a program i wrote in C to demonstrate pointer arithmetic in C to a colleague
[20:32] <k1l> SaturnMir: use what you want. every user got a different taste and workflow. but tilingWM like awesome are somewhat for advanced users. budgie is not ready anyway
[20:33] <TJ-> tknguyen: is there something in the .gdbinit adding that?
[20:34] <SaturnMir> K1l I spend 90% of my time on Sublime Text, Chrome, or the terminal...
[20:34] <TJ-> tknguyen: do you have the source somewhere I can build/test against here?
[20:34] <tknguyen> TJ-, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8856697
[20:34] <tknguyen> TJ-, sure but it's not relevant. i even got the same result for gdb /bin/echo
[20:35] <TJ-> tknguyen: ensure 'gdb' is what you think it is!
[20:36] <Niilos> i'm back
[20:36] <TJ-> tknguyen: I see "file $(which gdb)" => "/usr/bin/gdb: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64 ..."
[20:36] <Niilos> I started ubuntu in recovery mode
[20:36] <Niilos> I changed the password in the root console
[20:36] <Niilos> But it said "auth tocken manipulation failed"
[20:36] <Pici> tknguyen: what does echo $SHELL say?
[20:37] <TJ-> tknguyen: what shell is set? "echo $SHELL" ?
[20:38] <TJ-> Niilos: did you remount the root file-system read-write for that?
[20:39] <Niilos> I don't think so
[20:39] <Niilos> How should I do that ?
[20:40] <TJ-> Niilos: that might explain it, since the /etc/shadow file wouldn't be writeable
[20:40] <Niilos> Ok
[20:40] <TJ-> Niilos: "mount -o remount,rw /" then do your "passwd <username>" command
[20:40] <TJ-> tknguyen: you can also, in gdb, do "set startup-with-shell false" to avoid that error.
[20:41] <tknguyen> TJ-, let me try
[20:41] <Niilos> TJ- : Thanks you, I'll try
[20:41] <tknguyen> TJ-, it worked!
[20:41] <tknguyen> TJ-, huh, very strange...
[20:42] <tknguyen> TJ-, learn something new every day i guess :)
[20:42] <TJ-> tknguyen: it's a gdb thing, depends on whether it decides to execute your command directly or via a shell
[20:42] <Fropla> hello, i have ubuntu installed on my laptop, and i want to move the hard drive to a second laptop.. ubuntu will works normally in the second laptop or i have to re-install it in this case?
[20:43] <TJ-> Fropla: it'll boot fine; there may be an issue with the video if the GPUs are different, but it should operate at some usably default
[20:43] <SaturnMir> Fropla ... I am no expert but unless the spec is the same you will probably get issues
[20:44] <Fropla> TJ-: even if the specs are not the same?
[20:44] <TJ-> Fropla: generally, hardware devices are discovered and auto-configured at boot-time. Some systems that have a custom X server config /etc/X11/xorg.conf would have problems
[20:44] <SaturnMir> Fropla ... issues of what scope I am unsure. Like TJ- said...video will be an issue
[20:44] <TJ-> Fropla: as long as the CPU on the target supports the architecture that is installed
[20:44] <TJ-> Fropla: e.g. a 64-bit amd64 install won't boot on a pure 32-bit CPU
[20:45] <Fropla> TJ-: ah ok, well i have a 64 bit cpu.. so do you think it will be fine if i try it?
[20:46] <TJ-> Fropla: It should be fine, as long as the target PC's firmware boot manager menu can handle it. If it is installed for UEFI boot, but the target PC is BIOS-only, it won't boot
[20:46] <Fropla> ok thx !
[20:46] <stunts513_> TJ-: i'm going to reboot into ubuntu and try one last thing before i blame the ahci driver.
[20:47] <stunts513_> i'm actually hardwired this time round so i may be able to join the irc if you have any other ideas
[20:47] <TJ-> stunts513_: its not the AHCI driver :) it's the device-class in the hardware's PCI config space. It isn't claiming to be NVMe. maybe that can be changed in the PCs firmware config
[20:48] <stunts513_> the same raid controller i'm seeing in used in windows is in linux as well, but its using the ahci module for it
[20:49] <stunts513_> anyways il bbs i gotta isntall stuff once im in the live os
[20:49] <TJ-> stunts513_: right, but as said earlier, it's probably the Windows drivers knows something special about that hardware. The Linux ahci driver is designed to work with devices that are known to be pure ACHI. See "modinfo -F alias ahci" for the alias list
[20:50] <Niilos> I'm back here
[20:50] <Niilos> The password change worked
[20:51] <salamanderrake> bhalash: outdated info but thanks for pointing me in a diriction at least.
[20:51] <Niilos> But the graphical login (even if it don't say invalid password) come back to the login prompt
[20:52] <theweirdn8> anyone here experienced with SDL 2.x and can help me solve my window un-minimize event problem?
[20:52] <TJ-> Niilos: is the user configured for encrypted home directory?
[20:52] <k1l> Niilos: log into the tty1 and do a "ls -al" and see who is the owner of the .Xauthority file
[20:52] <Niilos> I can log in a TTY but can't see my files (I checked the crypt my personal datas while installing)
[20:52] <k1l> or its encrypted
[20:52] <salamanderrake> bhalash: there is no /usr/share/unity/lenses folder
[20:53] <TJ-> Niilos: ahh, so now your user's password is out of sync with the wrapper passphrase, so the user's files cannot be automatically decrypted and mounted
[20:53] <Niilos> I used the command like said in the README file but my passphrase isn't accepted
[20:55] <TJ-> Niilos: use "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase" and enter the OLD user password, then the NEW user password
[20:56] <Niilos> TJ- With the .ecrypt/wrapped-passphrase as argument ?
[20:57] <TJ-> Niilos: no, no arguments, it knows by your username where to find the current wrapper (/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/)
[20:57] <Niilos> TJ- : It really wants an argument
[20:58] <TJ-> Niilos: hmmm, not here when I tested it
[20:58] <Niilos> it want a [file]
[21:01] <TJ-> Niilos: OK, try "ecryptfs-rewrap-passphrase /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase"
[21:02] <salamanderrake> this helped http://askubuntu.com/questions/105558/how-do-i-disable-the-super-key
[21:02] <geirha> [file] in the synopsis means file is optional
[21:04] <Niilos> TJ- : It said unwrapping passphrase failed [-5]
[21:05] <TJ-> Niilos: that means the old password you're using is incorrect
[21:06] <TJ-> Niilos: the fact your original problem was not being able to log-in with that user makes me wonder if the keyboard mapping or locale has changed?
[21:07] <Alex02> ciao
[21:07] <Alex02> !list
[21:07] <Alex02> ok yes
[21:11] <Niilos> TJ- : When I type my username the layout is good
[21:17] <Niilos> TJ- : It woks all great now tnaks you very much :)
[21:17] <TJ-> Niilos: *phew!*
[21:18] <Niilos> TJ- : It appeard that I just misstyped my password in the first place
[21:18] <Niilos> TJ- : *shame on me*
[21:18] <Niilos> TJ- : I'm very greatful =)
[21:19] <Niilos> TJ- : And sorry for importunate you !
[21:19] <TJ-> Niilos: I'm pleased you solved it... losing access to encrypted home directory is not a nice thing to have to fix, especially if you did not safely store the MASTER key as prompted when first encrypting it
[21:19] <TJ-> Niilos: might be a good idea to do that NOW!
[21:20] <Niilos> TJ- : If the master key is what I typed as a passphrase when I installed ubuntu I got it
[21:21] <Niilos> TJ- : In a secure place of course !
[21:21] <TJ-> Niilos: no, the master key is *wrapped* by the user's password
[21:21] <ubuntu-mate> salut à tous
[21:21] <TJ-> Niilos: "ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase" should display the master key, which you should securely store offline
[21:22] <Niilos> TJ- : I take notes
[21:23] <Niilos> TJ- : It seems to be short for a key
[21:26] <TJ-> Niilos: it should be 32 hexadecimal digits; 128-bit key
[21:28] <TJ-> Niilos: ecryptfs uses 128-bit symmetrical AES keys by default
[21:28] <Niilos> TJ- : The recovery mode seems to be a security issue (not as a lambda user but in an entreprise for instance) can I disable it and then make the access lost if the password is forgotten ?
[21:28] <Niilos> TJ- : Yes it is 128bits. Thanks you.
[21:29] <TJ-> Niilos: how do you mean, recovery mode is a security issue?
[21:29] <Sebastien> so i have a folder in var/www/html/here and i would like to make a "copy" of this folder, and put it in /home/bot/here so file management is wasier to do, how would i do that?
[21:29] <Sebastien> it's to pu eggdrop logs on my web server
[21:30] <TJ-> Niilos: anyone that has physical access to a PC means security is lost if that person is an attacker
[21:30] <JC_> Hi All. Greyhole or Raid for mirroring drives?
[21:31] <Niilos> TJ- : Ok.
[21:32] <Niilos> TJ- : Thanks you again for you're help !
[21:32] <Niilos> TJ- : Bye :)
[21:32] <TJ-> Niilos: you can implement GRUB passwords to prevent access, use full disk encryption, or even encrypt the /boot/ file-system using dm_crypt/LUKS (as in Full Disk Encryption)
[21:32] <JC_> Mirroring drives anyone?
[21:32] <Niilos> TJ- : Nice, I keep that on a memo
[21:33] <Niilos> TJ- : I was looking for entire disk encryption few time ago
[21:33] <Niilos> TJ- : your* sorry
[21:36] <Sebastien> how could i give a user permission to write in /var/www/html/here/ ?
[21:36] <Sebastien> simlink?
[21:37] <Ben64> add them to the www-data group
[21:37] <TJ-> Sebastien: group membership, or  file ACLs maybe,
[21:37] <Sebastien> i did that: sudo adduser thisuser www-data
[21:37] <Sebastien> but i get
[21:37] <Sebastien> Could not load pisg! Reason:
[21:37] <Sebastien> ./pisg: Unable to open outputfile(/var/www/html/s/socialdawgs.html): Permission denied
[21:37] <anabain> Is it possible to query the pwd via qdbus for the konsole app? If yes, how it's done? I mean a command at the CLI that yields /this/is/the/cwd
[21:37] <Ben64> Sebastien: ls -ld /var/www/html/s
[21:38] <TJ-> Sebastien: by default group www-data only has read-execute for that heirachy; you'd need to "chmod -R +w :www-data /var/www/html/here"
[21:38] <Sebastien> Ben64
[21:38] <Sebastien> seb@freenode:~$ ls -ld /var/www/html/s
[21:38] <Sebastien> drwxrwxr-x 2 seb seb 4096 Jan 14 06:52 /var/www/html/s
[21:38] <Sebastien> TJ-, as root user?
[21:38] <Ben64> well there you go, seb owns that directory
[21:38] <bob2017> hey, is k1rk around?
[21:38] <Sebastien> Ben64, i need /home/stats/ to have access to it
[21:39] <k1l> bob2017: just ask, so others might help
[21:39] <TJ-> Sebastien: looks like you're already messed with the default ownerships/permissions
[21:39] <Ben64> Sebastien: not sure what you got going on there... ^
[21:39] <Sebastien> ok, /home/seb/ is my main account with sudoer permission. but another account /home/stats/ is where my stats are, and they need permission to write in /html/s/
[21:41] <bob2017> k1l its been a whole saga… i’m not able to boot into either GUI or CLI, apparenlty because of problems with ubuntu recognizing video cards.  the system has an nvidia and and amd.  the monitors are hooked up to the amd.  last night we found it was trying to use the nvidia every time.  today, i tried reinstalling ubuntu, then chrooted in from livecd, uninstalling nouveau, and rebuilding initrd.  at that point it would boot until i
[21:41] <bob2017> wanted to go into low graphics mode, but would freezew whenever i tried to go to the console.  once it booted into emergency mode properly, and i could use it, because there was a disk error.  the current status, i went back in through livecd/chroot, installed fglrx, rebuild xorg.conf, and now we’re back to video freezing right after the bios screen
[21:41] <bob2017> kernel command lines are, for whateve reason, being ignored; emergency, text, etc, it always tries to load X.
[21:41] <IceNine> hey all, is it possible when you ssh to a host to x11 already running processes? instead of spawning a new one?
[21:45] <Sebastien> Ben64, TJ-,
[21:45] <Sebastien> seb@freenode:/$ sudo chmod -R +w :www-data /var/www/html/
[21:45] <Sebastien> chmod: cannot access ‘:www-data’: No such file or directory
[21:45] <llldino> IceNine, Check this out :http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/152291/can-i-move-a-running-application-to-a-different-x-server
[21:45] <Ben64> Sebastien: i think you're confusing chmod and chown
[21:45] <Sebastien> hmm
[21:47] <someone235> hi, I can't see when my battery is charging. Someone knows what can cause this?
[21:47] <llldino> Sebastien, Shouldn't it be chmod -R +w /path/to/whatever
[21:47] <Sebastien> chown -R stats:www-data /var/www/html
[21:47] <louiemat> anyone, what do you think of ubuntu mate 15.10
[21:48] <Sebastien> i think i found
[21:48] <guntbert> !ot | louiemat
[21:57] <Hanom1960> I have any question
[21:58] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: Just ask the question. Someone may have the answer.
[21:59] <Hanom1960> How i can configure simple-scan for that my scans are legal size ?
[21:59] <Hanom1960> i only can scan in letter size
[22:05] <JC_> What would people recommend Raid 1 or Greyhole
[22:06] <Hanom1960> How i can configure simple-scan for that my scans are legal size ?
[22:06] <Hanom1960> i only can scan in letter size
[22:07] <geetar> I have a headless server at home with one pic card and 4 USB 2.0 slots.  When I connect an external drive to it, I can sometimes get it to be recognized for a minute or so and then I get errors.  The drive seems fine when connected to my ubuntu laptop.  I don't know how to diagnose whether it is the drive, pci card, or ubuntu server.
[22:07] <k1l> JC_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/greyhole  see this page
[22:09] <JC_> Thanks kll but it still doesnt explain which is better
[22:10] <geetar> Hanom1960, I just connected.  What kind of scanner?
[22:11] <JC_> Basically I have two drives at 1TB they will store movies, pictures and music.
[22:11] <JC_> Which option would be best to mirror the other?
[22:11] <Hanom1960> fi-6130
[22:12] <mrtAkdeniz> howdy!
[22:12] <mrtAkdeniz> quick question: how can I remove a service from "service" list?
[22:13] <mrtAkdeniz> I removed php5-fpm from system, but on system it still stay
[22:13] <k1l> JC_: mirror? for speed improvment or for backup? because backup doesnt work that way
[22:14] <geetar> Hanom1960, I scan using a bash script and can do legal size.  I could never get a GUI to let me scan so had to improvise with my fujitsu:ScanSnap S1500:7668
[22:15] <JC_> I suppose a backup of sorts but I would be backing up to a USB drive also.
[22:16] <geetar> Hanom1960, is CLI or bash script an acceptable option?
[22:16] <k1l> JC_: neither of them both are meant for backup.
[22:17] <Hanom1960> geetar, what is the source code of script
[22:17] <JC_> I would just like the safety if one hard drive were to fail I would have the data on the other.
[22:17] <JC_> And its easy to get the data off the other.
[22:19] <geetar> Hanom1960, you will have to find your scanner's options from scanimage -all-options.  Install scanimage if not already installed and do "man scanimage".
[22:21] <geetar> Hanom1960, I will pastebin my bash script in a minute.  Beware that I am not a programmer, but it works for me.
[22:21] <k1l> JC_: so you will be better with a singel hdd with a backup script that copies the data to the other one
[22:21] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: In simple-scan, click "Document" - "Preferences"
[22:21] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: Page Size is probably set to Automatic. Change it to your needed page size.
[22:21] <Hanom1960> dark-jedi, i don't have option to configure
[22:22] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: What menu options do you have?
[22:22] <Hanom1960> no, wait for screenshot
[22:22] <scribblenet> ok I was wondering if anyone knows of a good ubuntu server guide to getting things set up in command line
[22:22] <ken_> hey anyone know where I can locate httpd.conf?
[22:23] <Hanom1960> https://i.imgur.com/6ewHHXE.png
[22:23] <dark-jedi> ken_: /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[22:25] <neredsenvy> Anyone here using apache and LXC containers
[22:25] <chris__> hey guys ubuntu just crashed, I was wondering, does anyone have a good pop up blocker i could use , i reported the crash to ubuntu
[22:26] <chris__> it was because of a firefox pop up
[22:27] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: What I've been able to find on Google is that this is a bug with the Ubuntu Unity desktop. It shouldn't block the simple-scan menu bar but it does.
[22:28] <IceNine> thanks illdino
[22:28] <JC_> So why not Greyhole or Raid 1 K1l?
[22:28] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: It looks like there is no fix forthcoming, so you could try another scan utility like SANE, or switch to another distro.
[22:28] <k1l> JC_: its not a backup
[22:28] <k1l> JC_: if you delete a file its still gone.
[22:28] <someone235> When I write "synclient VertEdgeScroll=1" I get "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?". Someone knows how to solve this?
[22:28] <geetar> Hanom1960, my scanning bash script.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14499368/.  Again, I'm not a programmer.  I am sure you can improve it.
[22:30] <chris__> does anyone have a good firefox pop up blocker?
[22:30] <geetar> Hanom1960, it scans the pages to tiff, converts to tiffs to pdf, combines the pdfs, names the file and pops it up on the screen.  Most of the script it just saving the settings I use most.
[22:30] <dark-jedi> geetar: Nice script! Only one thing I can see so far. Under SetSelectScanner() you have a Fujitsu scanner manually inputted. Would that line work with other people's scanners?
[22:31] <JC_> But if I delete a file then I dont want it anyway?
[22:31] <k1l> chris__: try "ublock"
[22:33] <geetar> dark-jedi, I think I am missing a " or so in there.  But the script was designed to allow me to select standard options or custom.  It works on my S1500 and my older fujitsu scanner.
[22:33] <stunts513> Could someone remind me what the device class number is for nvme devices?
[22:33] <k1l> JC_: so ok. if you already choosen raid1 or greyhole then go for it.
[22:33] <JC_> No I haven't. I'm just curious with your answer.
[22:34] <dark-jedi> geetar: That's what I'm saying. Unless he manually edits those lines to his printer/scanner model, it probably won't work for him. But that is a great looking script.
[22:34] <dark-jedi> geetar: I'm very impressed by that. I'm totally going to try making it work on my scanner. :)
[22:35] <geetar> dark-jedi, also, under scanimage, other scanners would have different options.  I think I found them with "scanimage --all-options".
[22:35] <chris__> @dark jedi, Take off these cuffs and leave then drop the gun
[22:35] <k1l> JC_: http://serverfault.com/questions/2888/why-is-raid-not-a-backup
[22:36] <geetar> dark-jedi, definitely will require modification.  It is my script, let me pare out the options to make it easier for you.
[22:36] <dark-jedi> Hanom1960: One thing you might try first... When you open simple-scan hit the Super key and type "Preferences" in there. It might locate the Preferences menu in simple-scan.
[22:37] <dark-jedi> geetar: It's okay. I love playing around with BASH scripts. I just completed a 360-line script myself today
[22:38] <dark-jedi> geetar: It used to be 564 lines, but I condensed some of the options and commands.
[22:38] <JC_> What would you recommend then?
 @dark jedi, Take off these cuffs and leave then drop the gun
[22:42] <dark-jedi> I have no idea what he means by that...
[22:42] <dark-jedi> But the leading @ symbol prevented me from being alerted, so I missed it until now.
[22:47] <geetar> dark-jedi, good luck with it.  This script replicated most/all of the functionality of the scanning software that came with my fujitsu scanner.  It is actually better in one respect - unlimited presets by editing the script.
[22:48] <dark-jedi> geetar: That is a definite bonus!
[22:49] <almark> what ever happened with middle-click copy and paste?
[22:49] <almark> it's gone sortof :-\
[22:50] <Jordan_U> almark: It's working fine for me (as long as I'm not using a Wayland GNOME session). Please describe the problem you're having with middle click to paste.
[22:51] <almark> the problem is that it doesn't copy and paste anymore with ubuntu 14.04 unity
[22:52] <k1l> almark: it does here on unity 15.10
[22:52] <almark> it just suddenly stopped
[22:52] <k1l> almark: you are aware that there are actually 2 clipboards and the middle-mouse one is different from ctrl+c and ctrl+v
[22:53] <almark> yes i know
[22:53] <Jordan_U> almark: First of all, middle click has never (in any DE I can remember) copied content. Selecting any text adds that text to X's "primary" paste buffer, then pressing middle click pastes from the primary buffer. Note, this is a different buffer than the one that holds contents you explicitly copy.
[22:53] <k1l> ok
[22:54] <almark> the process you just described Jordan_U stopped working here strange enough
[22:55] <EriC^^> does highlighting , then shift+insert work?
[22:55] <almark> highlighting !
[22:55] <almark> ues :)
[22:55] <almark> yes
[22:56] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: Middle-click does copy/paste in some Terminals.
[22:56] <EriC^^> then your middle mouse button isn't set
[22:58] <anabain> how can I set, via qdbus (or whatever), the title of the dolphin window to the current path dolphin is at? I want to substitute the last dir name, which is what is shown by default, for the full path to that same dir. something like that but for dolphin instead of konsole: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27004924/how-can-i-automatically-set-the-window-title-in-konsole-kde-to-be-my-pwd-stri
[22:58] <almark> it seems to work in the test your settings of mouse &touchpad
[22:58] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: In most Terminals, you highlight text and middle-click and it copies and pastes it in the location of the cursor.
[22:59] <Jordan_U> dark-jedi: That's not actually middle click copying, that's the selection of the text copying it, then middle click pasting.
[23:04] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: Same thing. I can open up files and paste between them with a middle-click.
[23:07] <Jordan_U> dark-jedi: I don't think we're in disagreement. Middle click definitely does paste, it just doesn't copy.
[23:13] <Duality> hi
[23:13] <Duality> i am following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2149682
[23:13] <Duality> and when i boot
[23:13] <Duality> from the usb disk the screen goes gray and has a circle with a line in it
[23:14] <Duality> and does not boot further
[23:15] <Duality> I have not Idea what to do now or can do further
[23:15] <MonkeyDust> Duality  spare the enter key
[23:16] <Duality> i am sorry if i am spamming :) i'll try and spare the enter key
[23:16] <dark-jedi> Duality: Did you copy the image using the dd command?
[23:17] <Duality> sudo dd bs=32768 if=lubuntu-14.04-desktop-powerpc.iso of=/dev/sdg1 conv=notrunc,noerror,sync
[23:17] <MadRat2> How do I do a backup of my Ubuntu install?  (I'm currently running Puppy Linux)
[23:17] <dark-jedi> Duality: Take out the bs and conv variables.
[23:18] <dark-jedi> Duality: Just run it directly input to output.
[23:18] <dark-jedi> Duality: Note: It will appear to freeze as the dd command does its stuff. But once the Terminal pops back up, the image should be on the drive.
[23:19] <Duality> dark-jedi: I use dd often
[23:19] <Duality> :)
[23:19] <Duality> but thanks
[23:20] <Bashing-om> !backup } MadRat2
[23:21] <Bashing-om> !backup | MadRat2
[23:21] <dark-jedi> Duality: My thoughts on it were that bs would probably fragment the image being copied. If you take out that variable, dd will set it dynamically.
[23:22] <MadRat2> Bashing-om: Coping and pasting.  Thank you ^_^
[23:23] <EriC^^> Duality: you're writing an iso to a partition
[23:23] <Bashing-om> MadRat2: K, but to be honest, all one needs to backup is peersonal files in the /home directory , and maybe some .config files. System files are on the install medium and do not require backing up .
[23:24] <EriC^^> Duality: you have to write it to the disk, not the partition, unless it's made that way which is unusual
[23:24] <EriC^^> also use bs=4M it'll speed up the process
[23:25] <CinnamonRickRoll> anybody know a good alternative to xbacklight?
[23:25] <EriC^^> CinnamonRickRoll: xrandr can handle backlight
[23:25] <CinnamonRickRoll> thanks
[23:25] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:26] <Duality> EriC^^: so just to /de/v/sdg ?
[23:26] <EriC^^> yeah, if you're sure that's what you want to overwrite, it'll overwrite the whole disk including the partition table etc
[23:28] <Duality> EriC^^: the drive is just a usbdisk that is empty
[23:28] <Jordan_U> dark-jedi: No, dd does not set bs dynamically. It defaults to bs=512, which is rarely ideal for performance.
[23:31] <Duality> it still does the gray screen :(
[23:32] <Jordan_U> Duality: I'm not sure that Ubuntu's powerpc isos are made so that they can be booted from USB when dd'd.
[23:33] <Duality> Jordan_U: that is not cool, because the cd-drive in this mac is broken
[23:33] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: My bad. You are correct. The command to make it dynamic is bs=N count=1 which sets dd to the amount of memory available.
[23:34] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: It does create a large overhead though. And I've noticed that dd does copy slower on that.
[23:35] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: The traditional 512 is usually the best, because when the amount of bytes to copy is given by bs×count, it is impossible to copy a prime number of bytes in a single dd command without making one of two bad choices
[23:35] <Jordan_U> dark-jedi: When the dd manual says "bs=N" they mean that you should replace "N" with a number. Literally using "bs=N" will just lead to an error message as 'N' is not a number.
[23:38] <dark-jedi> Jordan_U: I was copying from the dd manpage. Of course bs=N will give an error. The fact stands that when the amount of bytes to copy is given by bs×count, it is impossible to copy a prime number of bytes in a single dd command. This can lead to errors in the copy.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> dark-jedi: I have never needed to copy a prime number of bytes, other than 1 and maybe 3 or 7. 512 is rarely a good choice for dd'ing an iso to a USB drive simply because it will be needlessly slow.
[23:41] <insidious>  /clear
[23:42] <Jordan_U> Duality: What OS is currently on this machine?
[23:43] <bigboy69> hello
[23:43] <bigboy69> is it ok to ask support questions here?
[23:44] <blackflow> bigboy69: yes
[23:44] <dark-jedi> Duality: One other thing. Is the md5sum of the image you are using listed on the website? Check your drive image against the md5sum to make sure you got an accurate download on your copy.
[23:44] <Duality> Jordan_U: osx
[23:45] <bigboy69> I have a small problem with the whisker menu in xubuntu. anytime I drag one of window icons on the panel the xfce icon disappears.
[23:45] <bigboy69> when I move my mouse back over it, it comes back
[23:46] <bigboy69> not really a problem but it is a little annoying
[23:46] <dark-jedi> bigboy69: Right-click on the icon in the Whisker menu and click "Add to Panel" It should work better than dragging it.
[23:47] <llldino> bigboy69, I have this same problem too, but I'm on debian. I think it's a bug with XFCE
[23:47] <bigboy69> sorry, it's the icon icon to open the whisker menu itself that disappear
[23:48] <bigboy69> llldino: yeah I think it might be too
[23:48] <llldino> bigboy69, Yeah, sometimes when I'm dragging windows around, by application menu gets hidden behind a black box until I drag the mouse over it
[23:48] <Jordan_U> Duality: Do you have more than one USB drive?
[23:48] <bigboy69> have you had any negative effects besides the icon vanishing
[23:49] <Duality> Jordan_U: yes
[23:49] <llldino> BigBaby, No, just the icon vanishes until I hover back over it
[23:50] <CinnamonRickRoll> anybody know an alternative to xbacklight, thats just as simple, and only works within the screen limitations?
[23:50] <BigBaby> what icon llldino ?
[23:50] <bigboy69> alright, I guess I'll see if I can file a bug report
[23:50] <yigal> CinnamonRickRoll: screen limitations, please expand?
[23:50] <llldino> bigboy69, The icon for Applications Menu. Also, do you use the sensor plugin for your panel? Sometimes, it seems to lose my settings and reverts back to the default config if I hard reset the computer
[23:50] <bigboy69> sensors plugin?
[23:50] <CinnamonRickRoll> like it won't exceed the max brightness etc, bc i think xrandr can, unless i'm mistaken
[23:51] <bigboy69> don't think so
[23:51] <yigal> CinnamonRickRoll: have you checked this oldy but goody out http://askubuntu.com/questions/240857/what-commands-will-change-my-screens-brightness
[23:51] <bigboy69> I have one more thing that I'm not sure is a problem
[23:51] <BigBaby> no llldino i am mostly a server user in linux, so no GUI for me...
[23:51] <llldino> Yes, for the xfce4 panel. It displays values such as core temp, fan speed etc..
[23:51] <CinnamonRickRoll> nop, not yet, thanks yigal
[23:51] <yigal> CinnamonRickRoll: np, let me know if it helps :)
[23:51] <bigboy69> think he meant me, BigBaby
[23:52] <CinnamonRickRoll> will do :)
[23:52] <llldino> Oh i'm talking to the wrong person ><
[23:52] <llldino> Yeah I meant big boy
[23:52] <bigboy69> no llldino, I don't use it
[23:52] <BigBaby> oh, lol, good luck llldino bigboy69
[23:52] <bigboy69> ;) ta
[23:52] <yigal> bb careful
[23:52] <llldino> bigboy69, What's your other problem?
[23:52] <ubuntu_> ok
[23:53] <bigboy69> my battery icon sometimes doesn't show that AC is connected
[23:53] <bigboy69> when I go into power manager it say I have line_power
[23:53] <bigboy69> but also that the battery is discharging
[23:54] <bigboy69> below 95% it says it's charging and then suddenly cuts off
[23:54] <bigboy69> when it reaches past 95
[23:55] <CinnamonRickRoll> yigal, i g2g and i haven't finished looking over it, I'll do it when i get a chance (almost certainly later today), but idk if you'll be on at the time
[23:55] <CinnamonRickRoll> thanks so far anyway
[23:55] <llldino> bigboy69, How old is the battery?
[23:56] <bigboy69> 6 months
[23:56] <yigal> bigboy69: my apologies, but what laptop are you rocking, I came in a bit late on the topic?
[23:56] <bigboy69> it works perfectly in windows so it's not a hardware issue
[23:56] <bigboy69> ASUS TP300LA
[23:56] <yigal> bigboy69: ty sir
[23:58] <yigal> bigboy69: what version of Ubuntu are you running it on?
[23:59] <yigal> bigboy69: the change to systemd in 15.10 will change where we'll need to look for the issue
[23:59] <llldino> bigboy69, Do you have the package lm-sensors installed? If so, you may be able to read what the actual milliwatt per hour is on the battery, and see if it's activly charging beyond 95
[23:59] <bigboy69> xubuntu 15.10
[23:59] <bigboy69> I do