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hikikoHi06:12
didrocksgood morning!06:53
pittiGood morning07:07
didrockshey pitti07:08
pittibonjour didrocks !07:09
seb128good morning desktopers07:25
didrocksre seb12807:26
seb128re didrocks :-)07:26
darkxsthey seb128 pitti didrocks07:29
seb128hey darkxst07:29
didrocksgood evening darkxst, it's been a long time :)07:29
darkxstdidrocks, I was away for a couple of weeks with no internet07:30
darkxstand been sick with a cold the last week07:30
pittihey darkxst, how are yoU?07:30
pittioh, I hope you feel better now!07:30
darkxstpitti, on the mend though07:30
didrocksyeah, seems like it's sick time all around me! ;)07:31
darkxstheat waves here, aren't they meant to kill the germs!07:31
darkxstthough we have been bouncing between high 30's to 40 for a few days, then 15 wet and windy07:32
seb128hey pitti07:32
didrocksdarkxst: typical weather to get sick then ;) (btw, 15 wet and windy is what we had end of last week/early this week :p)07:33
pittibonjour seb128, ça va ?07:34
seb128pitti, oui, et toi ?07:34
pittiça va bien !07:35
darkxstpitti, is it possible to get the adt artifacts for s390x builds?07:42
pittidarkxst: sure, they are all exposed on swift and linked from on autopkgtest.u.c., regardless of arch and release07:42
darkxstoh da, I was looking on jenkins ;(07:44
didrockspitti: what's your opinion if I use something like "python3 -m compileall" in setup to avoid the xenial issue?07:45
didrocks(or rather, the issue I'm seeing on xenial)07:45
darkxstthough I could have sworn I added scripts to copy out tracker test-suite.log's, they not there!07:45
darkxstmaybe I never uploaded those ;(07:47
darkxstor they got dropped in some merge07:49
pittididrocks: or clean the git tree after every test?07:51
pittididrocks: not sure if compileall would help -- creating *more* root owned files isn't going to fix the "no permission to write to the file" issue07:52
didrockspitti: I meant, doing that in setup is basically "all user-owned compile file"07:52
didrocksso no more root owned ones07:52
pittiah, as user07:52
pittididrocks: if it works, sure07:53
pittiI wonder if there's an env var or so to completely disable writing __pycache__ files07:53
didrockspitti: hum, that's another tempting idea07:54
pittididrocks: compileall as user should do the trick too, if it works ;)07:55
pittihttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/154443/how-to-avoid-pyc-files07:55
pitti$PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE ?07:56
didrockspitti: sounds promising, I still need to be careful because of docker container07:56
didrocksas the env isn't passed completely07:56
didrocks(and that's where the root execution is done07:56
didrocks)07:56
didrockssharing the same volume07:56
didrocksso, let's try compileall first and reassess :)07:57
didrockspushed, will see at next attempt I guess07:57
pittiah, right07:57
didrockspitti: I wonder why it doesn't show up on wily though, when setting it "all tests", I always have:07:58
didrocks- in docker, running a local test server as root (that was the compiled files it was complaining about)07:58
didrocks- then, some large tests use a local test server as non root07:59
didrocksand that's medium, then large tests07:59
didrocksso, no tricks here, I wonder it never complained, can't read the file or whatsoever even on xenial adt07:59
pittididrocks: I'm quite sure the difference is because of 3.4 vs. 3.5, perhaps the docker guest uses 3.4?08:01
pittididrocks: and since a previous test was running with 3.5 on xenial, we would have pre-compiled __pycache__ for 3.4 on wily, but for 3.5 on xenial, so docker has to re-compile for 3.4 (as root)08:01
didrockspitti: yeah, it does and make sense (and means that probably my compileall trick will fail then :p), but that would be reproduceable on a xenial qemu, right?08:02
pittiyes, should08:02
didrockson which, or my memory fails me, I did some TESTS=all on it08:02
didrockshum, let's give it a try08:02
pittididrocks: you just need to run compileall for all python versions that are involved08:03
pittididrocks: that'll get trickier once we drop 3.4 from xenial, if your guests as root use 3.4 still08:03
pittididrocks: but why are they using a shared storage?08:03
didrocksyeah, not a bad idea08:03
pittididrocks: I think it's more robust to either reset and clean the git tree between tests, or copy it into a temp dir for every docker run08:04
didrockspitti: it could have been a cp, but it's the easier way to share code with docker08:04
pittithen the test can do whatever it wants to in docker08:04
didrocksyeah, reset maybe08:04
didrockspitti: copy it -> not a fan, as I need to be compatible in system and master tests08:04
didrocksand so, using the some paths outside (where the tests are launched) and inside08:04
didrocksto abstract from the fact it's running in a container08:05
didrocksbut yeah, let's see how this goes, ther are options anyway08:05
didrocks(clean-tree between tests being the most obvious one)08:05
pittididrocks: right, "git clean -fdx", and "git reset --hard origin"08:09
didrocksyeah, familiar with those 2 :)08:09
pittiit might fail with root-owned dirs,  though08:09
didrockswell, let's see next run after failure though08:09
didrockscan use sudo -n ;)08:09
pittiah, right08:09
larsugood morning!08:33
larsuhappy Friday everyone!08:33
pittihey larsu !08:36
larsumorgen pitti!08:36
seb128hey larsu08:37
seb128happy friday!08:37
larsubonjour seb128!08:37
seb128larsu, how are things going?08:39
larsuseb128: good thanks :) How about you?08:41
seb128I'm good thanks!08:42
seb128larsu, what are you working on now? still nautilus? (we should stop investing in that update)08:42
larsuno, took a break from that and doing i18n support and alternate names in geonames08:42
larsuI figured since we're not decided if we take that or not, it doesn't make time to work on that further08:43
seb128great08:43
seb128yeah, I was just unsure since you didn't mention anything else since08:43
larsuah, sorry08:43
seb128no worry08:43
seb128when you have free slots, could you look at merging your gedit menubar patch upstream?08:43
seb128they said on the bug they were +1 mostly08:43
larsusure. Do you have a bug # handy?08:44
seb128I noticed that there are no keybinding displayed in the menu08:44
seb128so might be something to fix08:44
larsuyeah, can add that to the xml08:44
seb128gnome08:44
seb128gnome bug 74190408:44
ubot5Gnome bug 741904 in general "Finish up support for traditional menubar" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74190408:44
seb128danke08:44
seb128finish your geonames work first08:45
seb128we have the patch in gedit and there is no hurry08:45
seb128it's just one things more upstream once it's merged08:45
larsuseb128: nah let me do it now. It's quick and I want another ok from them (accepted-commit_now)08:46
seb128k08:46
seb128maybe add the keybindings to the xml first though?08:46
larsuya, of course08:47
seb128but I guess that part is not too much work08:47
* larsu nods08:49
pittiLaney, seb128, didrocks: in case anyone is interested: http://pad.ubuntu.com/autopkgtest-sprint08:56
pittididrocks: killing current ubuntu-make run, as it again tmpfailed on the "large-stdout: No such file" error08:57
pittididrocks: I will investigate/fix that ASAP, sorry08:58
didrockspitti: ok, I was going to wonder if anything happened :p08:58
didrockskeep me posted!08:59
* didrocks reruns manually meanwhile08:59
pittididrocks: ah, do you have a fix/workaround for the EPERM?08:59
pitti(in git now, I mean)08:59
didrockspitti: it's in git, wily didn't get it on this run, but previous xenial run should have got it09:00
didrocksand this one restarted as well apparently09:00
pittiright09:00
pitticool09:00
pittioh, it wasn't a problem in wily in the first place, so maybe I killed the wrong one09:00
seb128pitti, noted09:02
didrocksyeah09:02
willcookeo/09:02
didrockshey willcooke09:02
Laneyhey hey09:04
pittigood morning Laney and willcooke!09:04
willcookeHappy Friday09:05
larsuseb128: hm, _ are missing as well, but that would introduce new strings09:06
larsuseb128: should be fine though, right?09:06
larsug'day willcooke!09:06
seb128larsu, yes, we are early enough in the cycle for that09:13
seb128hey willcooke Laney09:13
Laneyyo09:14
Laneyhappy friday!09:14
* Laney checks09:14
Laneyyes09:14
Laneyhappy friday!09:14
didrocksmorning willcooke!09:16
didrocksoupss09:16
didrocksLaney:09:16
didrocksstill re-good morning though :-)09:16
Laneyoh didrocks09:16
Laneyevery morning feels a bit sad!09:16
didrockswhy?09:17
Laneycloser...09:17
Laneyto a dark future09:17
seb128I guess to know you are moving away from us09:17
seb128Laney, happy friday!09:18
didrocksso cute!!!09:18
larsu:)09:20
larsubonjour didrocks!09:20
didrocksguten morgen larsu!09:20
didrockspitti: would you record your infra introduction? I will be travelling during the autopkg sprint09:21
pittididrocks: ah, I'll see to doing that (not sure how yet, but I'll ask around)09:22
didrockspitti: do you mind if I rerun a wily full test? (the one you killed by mistake was close to completion, again :p). I would at least love to see one full suite running :)09:23
pittididrocks: argh, sorry; sure, please do09:23
* didrocks runssss09:24
pittiI'll be more careful next time09:24
didrocksthx ;)09:24
Laneyif it's a hangout on air(?) I think they are saved to youtube automatically09:24
pittiLaney: I suppose I need a G+ profile for that?09:24
pittiLaney: I only have screenshare and chat in a HO09:25
pittior maybe I'll try one with my public G+09:25
LaneyI don't know09:25
Laneyshould be the same as we do for UOS and there's some instructions for that somewhere09:25
* Laney looks09:25
didrocksyou can do that with your canonical account as well09:25
Laneythink he's saying that he has no G+ on that one09:26
Laneymeh09:28
Laneycan't find the page09:28
didrocksit's https://hangouts.google.com/09:29
pittiLaney: I've never done that, I can't find it on my personal G+ profile hangout either09:29
pittiah! got it09:29
Laneyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions09:30
pittibut for the life of me I don't see how this works on my canonical account09:30
pittiLaney: well, that's outdated, Google chnaged the UI09:30
didrockspitti: did you try the url I gave? ^09:30
pittididrocks: yes, and that works with my personal account, but not with my Canonical one09:31
pittiI'll try to add a G+ profile again09:31
didrocksinteresting09:31
Laneyah09:32
Laneynever before did I see anything out of date on the wiki :)09:32
didrocks;)09:32
pittihttps://plus.google.com/u/1/events/cgbs40huhrq94tp4qehc8n7qpao?hl=en09:37
Laneyyay09:37
pittinow, how do I get the hangout URL for participants?09:37
pittithis only provides the youtube link, AFAIUI09:37
pittioh, nevermind09:38
willcookeochosi, hey - larsu mentioned you have some branches with theme fixes in.  Mind giving me some links?  Maybe I can reuse in the other theme fixes which are going on09:43
* Laney discovers a transition10:06
Sweet5harkLaney: what does one do in that situation: Dance the transition? Whack it until it stops moving? Crumble and smoke it?10:12
Laneycry in a corner and hope it goes away10:14
Sweet5harkpopey: what kind of update? bumping vanilla to 5.0.4?10:14
Sweet5harkLaney: well yeah, thats the obvious choice.10:15
popeySweet5hark, morning. So we're currently on 5.0.310:15
Laneyit's the only one10:15
Laneysoon I'll call a bigger boy to come and save me10:15
popeySweet5hark, we were just looking to see if there was an update worth taking as we haven't updated for a few months10:16
Sweet5harkpopey: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan <- currently there is 5.0.4, 5.0.5 is due very soon.10:18
Sweet5harkpopey: I would recommend against going 5.1.0 right away (which will appear roughly at the same time as 5.0.5)10:19
popeySweet5hark, 5.0.5 seems the best course for us, skipping 5.0.4 IMO10:19
popeyWhat do you think?10:19
Sweet5harkpopey: yes, thinking the same.10:19
popeyWe don't want to update right now, as we're preparing a store upload for a week or twos time10:19
popeyand want to push new LO to the next DocViewer release10:20
popeyOk, good.10:20
popeyThanks.10:20
ochosiwillcooke: mostly look at the last few commits of github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/, nothing too fancy for now, seems like the gtk3.18 theme breaks are not too bad (just the linked buttons mess sucks a bit, i'll probably just take whatever SASS adwaita uses and convert it to CSS with a converter for now...)10:28
willcookethanks ochosi10:29
willcookeLaney, haz updates10:29
willcookeLaney, attached a new HTML file for you10:30
Laneyboom10:30
Laneyhey you know how to do merge proposals right?10:30
Laney:D10:30
willcookedamn it10:30
Laneyhaha10:30
willcookeI knew you'd say that10:30
Laneynah it's okay10:30
willcookeI thought about it, but it will take me like 20 mins to work out and I've got a meeting in a mo10:30
darkxstwillcooke, if you did more MP's it would take you like 1min ;)10:32
willcookedarkxst, :) fair point10:33
willcookebut then I'd end up writing code, and _no one_ wants that10:33
darkxstwillcooke, lol right, because your just here to manage the code writers? ;)10:34
Laneycracking the whip10:35
pittididrocks: BTW, I now figured out how to hand out ssh access to scalingstack instances10:35
pittiin case you need this10:35
didrocksoh nice!10:35
darkxstLaney, crocodile dundee had a bigger whip10:36
Sweet5harkochosi: heya, saw your mail btw, just didnt get to reply yet (still trying to get on top of the after-christmas backlog). Awesome that you'll be at FOSDEM!10:38
Laneyyou aussies10:39
Sweet5harkochosi: lets try to meet at the booth (or the LibreOffice dev room, where the talks happen).10:39
didrocksbbiab10:40
hikikoTrevinho! :) did you say before that in multi-monitor we always use direct rendering and in single-monitor we use redirected?10:47
Trevinhohikiko: well, no... If there's a fullscreen window (like a game) that uses the whole screen, then we don't need to use the compositor, so we bypass that10:48
hikikooh, ok10:48
hikikoand this on single monitor10:48
hikikothat's normal :)10:48
hikikoI misunderstood you10:49
hikikothanks10:49
hikikoTrevinho, willcooke, https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.handles-chrome-chromium-windows-in-fullscreen could you top approve it if it works for you?10:59
hikiko(so that it gets merged)10:59
hikikooh wait I just saw marko's review sec11:01
willcooke:)11:05
davmor2willcooke: open a nautilus window, can you see little black triangles in the top corners that look like they should be rounded (put it on a light back ground to highlight it)11:10
hikikodone11:11
hikikonow you can top approve i think :)11:11
willcookedavmor2, known issue11:18
willcookeI thin11:18
willcookek11:18
willcookelarsu, ^11:18
davmor2willcooke: only seem to affect nautilus here which is why triggered the question :)11:19
larsu(a) known issue with header bars, being fixed by Trevinho & hikiko11:19
larsu(b) we'll probably revert to an older nautilus which doesn't have a header bar11:19
davmor2larsu: awesome :)11:19
hikikolarsu, I am not currently working on header bars and I think marco is working on other stuff right now11:23
Trevinhohikiko: well, your work is related ot that11:23
hikikoshadows?11:23
larsuya, that's what I meant11:24
larsuwe can't have argb non-titlebar windows without you shadow work11:24
hikikook that's in progress11:24
hikikoI didn't notice that nautilus has pseudo-shadows11:25
hikikono wait11:25
hikikoI just saw what you mean11:25
hikikohow this is related to shadows?11:25
hikikoI am not changing Trevinho's code for decorations11:26
larsuI hope Trevinho will after you're done "P11:26
larsu:P11:26
hikikoI am adding shadows for windows that don't have already like chromium/chrome, shaped windows etc11:26
hikikook :) basically my shadows have 2 big bugs I am trying to fix and then I push the branch.. :) sorry guys :)11:27
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Sweet5harkwillcooke: around?12:07
willcookeSweet5hark, ya12:08
larsuseb128: I've updated the gedit bug (sorry, lunch in between)12:18
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seb128larsu, thanks13:02
seb128Laney, that u-c-c html diff is first class13:08
seb128"something change in that file which is on one line"13:09
Laneyhahaha13:10
LaneyI didn't even bother to diff it13:10
LaneyI did open it in vim though13:10
Laneyfor about 0.5 seconds13:10
larsuseb128: ok, commmiting to master in a bit (some changes needed :( ) but I don't think this is something for the 3.18 branch - or what do you think?13:30
seb128larsu, no it's not, we should keep it as distro patch for this cycle13:31
larsuseb128: ok. Will you update it? (the ones on the bug apply cleanly to 3.18)13:31
larsuI can do as well13:31
seb128I can do it13:31
larsucoolio, thank13:31
larsus13:31
didrockspitti: phew, one full run at last: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_77e2ada1e7a84929a74ba3b87153c0ac/autopkgtest-wily-ubuntu-desktop-ubuntu-make/wily/amd64/u/ubuntu-make-git/20160115_111825@/log.gz :)14:00
didrocks501 tests passing :-)14:01
* desrt yawns14:03
desrthihi.14:03
larsumorning desrt14:03
didrockshey desrt14:04
desrtmorning larsu, didrocks14:04
Laneygreetings desrt14:04
desrtand laney :)14:04
desrthappy friday, everyone14:05
Laneyit is!14:05
attentehi guys14:06
desrtattente: i misssss you!14:06
seb128hey attente desrt, happy friday14:06
desrthaven't seen you in day!14:06
attente<314:06
didrockshey attente!14:07
attentehi didrocks!14:07
attentecongrats on the new job :)14:08
didrocksthx ;-)14:08
Laneyhey attente14:10
larsumorning attente!14:11
Laneywhy is there an old maliit-inputcontext-gtk in the queue as well as the one I uploaded?14:11
Laneylooks like that should be rejected14:11
attentehi Laney, larsu14:11
attenteLaney: sounds old, what's the version number?14:12
Laneysame14:12
Laneysomeone probably uploaded the silo for some reason14:12
attenteprobably robru, he was helping me upload it14:13
Laneyho hum14:14
Laneydidrocks: you want to hit ZE reject button? :)14:14
didrocksLaney: no punt intended, isn't it? ;)14:17
* didrocks flushes14:18
didrocksand done14:18
Laneywhat great service!14:19
willcookewould use again?14:19
LaneyI killed attente's silo14:20
Laneyhope I get the chance to use again14:20
* Laney weeps14:20
attente:o14:20
Laneytime for lunchables14:22
didrocksLaney: next time, some tea while proceeding14:22
didrocks(and some music ofc)14:22
seb128Laney, enjoy!14:24
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pittididrocks: yay!15:20
didrockstime for week-end (have an appointment right now and started early the whole week :))15:46
didrockssee you on Monday guys, have a good week-end!15:46
Laneysee you didrocks!15:47
didrocksbye Laney!15:47
Sweet5harkoh great, someone ripped off credit cards right at the ATM next to CCC congress. https://twitter.com/Linuzifer/status/68802547897270272016:04
Sweet5harki guess in makes sense, you can hide in over 9000 suspects ...16:04
Sweet5harkThen again hiding from 10.000 angry nerds chasing you down rarely worked of anyone either.16:05
willcookeha16:14
Trevinhoseb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/nautilus/folders-in-new-windows/+merge/280130 this didn't hit the archive yet, right?16:42
seb128Trevinho, not yet, mitya57 did an upload but ignoring the vcs17:01
seb128Trevinho, we are looking at reverting to the wily version of nautilus though17:01
Trevinhoseb128: oh... why? Because of the headerbar?17:03
* pitti waves good weekend!17:03
seb128pitti, have a good w.e!17:03
Trevinhoseb128: no way to backport the embedded transfer window? as it would be a good benefit...17:03
seb128Trevinho, would it?17:04
seb128it's one of the issues17:04
Trevinhoah17:04
seb128users don't notice copies starting or being done17:04
seb128it's too subtle17:04
TrevinhoI remember you said you liked it :-D17:04
seb128I found it cool17:04
Trevinhoseb128: well, if the launcher progress stays it should be enough, isn't it?17:04
seb128but I was unsure if that was too much of a change17:04
seb128well it's not the only issue17:04
seb128the icons size17:05
seb1283 values only and no small ones17:05
seb128the headerbar17:05
seb128the lack of menubar (and it's not easy to add one back, larsu spent quite some time on it to hit walls)17:05
TrevinhoI see17:05
seb128several bugs and features dropped (making symlinks, deleting bypassing the trash)17:05
TrevinhoOk, let me know when the things are happening, since I've to update a couple of my patches17:06
seb128right17:06
seb128sorry about that, I was still unsure what to do17:06
TrevinhoThe change should be small, but we'd need it17:06
seb128but read the irc log from the weekly meeting17:06
seb128k17:06
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, i read something in the lines, but not the full discussion17:06
Trevinhoseb128: so... At this point it's probably better to wait before landing the unity launcher integration branch? Not that it shouldn't work with older nautilus, but...17:08
seb128Trevinho, up to you17:09
seb128you can downgrade nautilus to make sure if you want17:09
* Trevinho waves... see you mon...17:23
seb128Trevinho, have a good w.e!17:24
willcookehappy weekend all, see you next week17:54
seb128happyaron, do you plan to upload https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/ubuntu/trusty/ibus/lp1240198_2/+merge/278226 ?18:00
seb128it's still in the sponsoring queue18:00
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seb128ok, done with patch piloting now18:04
seb128I'm calling it a week18:04
seb128having a good w.e everyone!18:04
Laneyme too18:04
Laneybye!18:04
Laneybe good!18:04
robruattente: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/861 published by timo in fact19:51
attenterobru: ah, ok19:52
robruattente: (click 'show audit logs' to see who did what)19:52
attentecool, thanks :)19:53
robruyou're welcome19:56
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