SouravRavish | hi | 09:28 |
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knome | MatthewAllen, replied to you with another wall of text in the task... | 13:54 |
knome | the 1000 character limitation is just silly :P | 13:54 |
MatthewAllen | knome, so your thinking for the submission form a sort of button that follows up and down the page on the right hand side that slides out when clicked? | 13:55 |
knome | well i was imagining it as a 100% tall panel | 13:56 |
knome | which would be, say 50px wide when hidden | 13:56 |
knome | and when you open it, it would open the whole form | 13:56 |
knome | whether it should overlap data or not, i'm not sure | 13:56 |
knome | also, we start to approach the territory where you'd more or less need to see stuff in action to know how well it works :) | 13:59 |
knome | btw, how are you creating those mockups ATM? do you have some HTML which you are styling with CSS, or are you just working with an image editing software? | 14:00 |
MatthewAllen | knome, photoshop atm | 14:00 |
MatthewAllen | I have decent experience with HTML and CSS so it shouldn't be a huge issue to try implementing some stuff | 14:00 |
knome | right, then it's not a completely trivial task to make that a "live" mockup | 14:00 |
knome | mhm, and if you run into problems, i can help with that too | 14:01 |
MatthewAllen | knome, would something such as this be right for the tab? http://i.imgur.com/MOwGWQy.png | 14:01 |
knome | yeah, something like that | 14:01 |
MatthewAllen | knome, just wondering where this task ends? When you're happy with the mockup? Or when stuffs actually getting implemented? | 14:03 |
knome | i still don't know exactly what balloons had in mind, but as he said: "when the mockup is ready to be implemented" | 14:03 |
knome | so i guess he would like to see how the different parts would look like | 14:03 |
knome | for the text spacing issue, i'm fine now | 14:03 |
knome | for the menu, well, you could do one more attempt | 14:04 |
MatthewAllen | knome, with the results table would implementing it across the full height of the page not leave a bunch of whitespace? | 14:04 |
knome | not if it was overlaid on top of the other content | 14:04 |
knome | (technically, position: fixed;) | 14:05 |
knome | coffee break now, i'm back after that and free for more discussion :) | 14:11 |
MatthewAllen | How do you feel about something like this? http://i.imgur.com/vQHg3FC.png | 14:19 |
MatthewAllen | knome, ^ | 14:56 |
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MatthewAllen | knome, also tried to address your Navigation comments - see here http://i.imgur.com/DxeMAwQ.png | 15:02 |
knome | MatthewAllen, i think the first solution is a bit weird... how would the dialog extend from that position? | 15:19 |
MatthewAllen | as in extending from the side of the page? | 15:20 |
MatthewAllen | not exactly sure :/ | 15:21 |
knome | re: navigation, that's better :) | 15:21 |
knome | i'll do a quick and dirty HTML mockup for you for the panel i was thinking about... | 15:21 |
MatthewAllen | ok, cheers :) | 15:22 |
knome | MatthewAllen, so as i said, quick and dirty... http://temp.knome.fi/googlecodein/panel-mockup/ | 15:32 |
MatthewAllen | knome, oohhh - I understand now | 15:33 |
MatthewAllen | I was a bit confused before as you clearly worked out | 15:33 |
knome | well, i probably could have been more clear ;) | 15:33 |
knome | so this both won't take space when not open | 15:33 |
knome | but also follows the user, so regardless where they are in the page, they can quickly access the panel | 15:34 |
knome | in the final implementation one can also make sure this appears at the top of the page if no JS is enabled | 15:34 |
knome | so it's not obtrusive either | 15:34 |
MatthewAllen | mmk, will change my mock up to be in the fashion and let you have another look | 15:35 |
knome | sure :) | 15:35 |
knome | and fwiw, i think a working draft like mine there is something balloons is looking for in the next task :) | 15:35 |
knome | (it doesn't need to be perfect either) | 15:35 |
MatthewAllen | are you thinking the side bar should simply have little arrow markers like yours, or actually have text so it's clear for the user? | 15:35 |
knome | that's up to you | 15:36 |
knome | this was just the easiest thing i could think of in the 5 minutes i set that up | 15:36 |
knome | or 10, it looks | 15:36 |
knome | and of course, in the final implementation, you'd need to make sure if the panel won't fit in the window vertically, you'll need to add some scrollbars | 15:38 |
knome | my mockup isn't doing anything like that, neither is it making sure the arrow and text on the panel look good when the window isn't tall | 15:38 |
knome | (they don't) | 15:38 |
MatthewAllen | I'm sure when the final implementation occurs you'll be having a look along the way, to make sure it's being done propely :) | 15:38 |
knome | mhm, at least considering i have the time | 15:39 |
knome | but i should have at least some time... | 15:39 |
knome | and this is not something i imagine we'll have ready for production before the contest ends anyway | 15:39 |
MatthewAllen | I'd very much doubt that | 15:39 |
MatthewAllen | I intend to keep working especially with the QA-Website after the competition ends anyway | 15:40 |
knome | with 10 highly trained code monkeys and same amount of UI monkeys working full time on this... maybe ;) | 15:40 |
knome | great! | 15:40 |
knome | nice to see people getting involved not just for the contest period :) | 15:40 |
MatthewAllen | only thing is once school goes back I'll have a lot less time free | 15:41 |
knome | you know, "$other_thing is taking my time" is quite normal in FOSS development :D | 15:41 |
MatthewAllen | that's the luck I've had for this competition, I've had school holidays the entire time | 15:42 |
knome | ...unless you are paid to do it, in which case you are still probably swamped with work on different tasks | 15:42 |
MatthewAllen | Australian school holidays line up really will with Google CodeIn | 15:42 |
knome | mhm, it's unfortunate that canonical holidays did too | 15:42 |
McIntireEvan | Haha yeah, I have exams over this week and I've had school most of the competition, my school times suck with GCI, but eh, it's life | 15:42 |
McIntireEvan | Next year if I'm a mentor my college break times should match up super well though, which is good | 15:43 |
MatthewAllen | guess it all depends on country, you in the US or somewhere else? | 15:43 |
McIntireEvan | Yup, US | 15:43 |
MatthewAllen | ahh, only issue for me is the time zones | 15:43 |
knome | MatthewAllen, btw, if you potentially have some "free time" for more tasks before the contest ends, i might have one for you | 15:43 |
knome | MatthewAllen, or at least, one that might be of interest for you | 15:44 |
knome | but it's not published yet | 15:44 |
MatthewAllen | knome, feel free to tell me - I've been spending a bunch of free time fixing some QA-Tracker bugs | 15:44 |
knome | MatthewAllen, basically i've created this wordpress theme for ubuntu community teams to use -> https://github.com/knomepasi/ubuntu-community-wordpress-theme/ | 15:44 |
knome | MatthewAllen, i don't know exactly what the task would be, but it would be something along the lines of "test, try to break it, give feedback, and file bugs" | 15:44 |
knome | and obviously it would involve setting up a wordpress installation somewhere :) | 15:45 |
MatthewAllen | I'd be keen to check that out :) | 15:45 |
knome | (and regardless of whether it will be a task or not, all feedback and help with the theme is welcome9 | 15:45 |
MatthewAllen | From playing around I feel having text in the sidebar looks a bit stupid, so I'd implement it similarly to yours - http://i.imgur.com/cndaOUL.png | 15:45 |
knome | yeah, maybe one could add a link in the content area that said "Report ..." | 15:46 |
knome | which would then open the panel | 15:46 |
knome | and the panel could totally have a tooltip too | 15:46 |
MatthewAllen | I could probally put it in the Notice Board sectio, or in the nav bar under testing tracker | 15:47 |
knome | for that, we'd likely need feedback from people who will end up using the tracker | 15:47 |
knome | as i see it, since that's the number one thing we want people to do on that page, it could be on a few places | 15:47 |
knome | for example, above bugs to look for and below the test reports | 15:47 |
knome | but i would say that's more or less minutiae - people who use the tracker will tell where they would look for that link | 15:48 |
MatthewAllen | I guess once they've used it once though, and know of the changes it wont be a huge issue anymore | 15:49 |
knome | we still have to account for new testers, it has to be intuitive and easy for them as well | 15:50 |
MatthewAllen | I've added it under the notice board section and at the bottom of the reported bugs section - http://i.imgur.com/UJ2kxF5.png | 15:53 |
knome | mm, putting it on the table is not a bad idea at all | 15:55 |
MatthewAllen | it's pretty hard to miss | 15:55 |
knome | maybe that needs some tweaking (i always feel the ubuntu orange all over the place is too much) | 15:55 |
knome | but yeah, i can see where this is going, and i'm happy with that | 15:56 |
MatthewAllen | I'd probally agree with that, any ideas? | 15:56 |
knome | http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette | 15:56 |
knome | see for "Tints" | 15:56 |
knome | could use something like 40% | 15:56 |
knome | and i would probably argue that the button should be printed with a different color from the table header | 15:57 |
knome | but again, that's minutiae | 15:57 |
MatthewAllen | so where are you saying I should use the 40% as opossed to the full? | 15:57 |
knome | using that instead of the 100% color in all of the table headers etc. would totally make the page easier on the eyes | 15:58 |
MatthewAllen | will have a look at that now | 15:58 |
knome | but would still stand out enough | 15:58 |
knome | and you can try the page with the warm greys they list on the page too | 15:59 |
knome | i'm personally a huge fan of the background color (too dark for me), but others might disagree | 15:59 |
MatthewAllen | as in the background on the tables? or the page itself? | 16:00 |
knome | the whole page | 16:00 |
MatthewAllen | do you have an issue with it being a gradient, or just want it to be lighter? | 16:00 |
knome | when you change the page background, you likely have to tweak the tables too | 16:00 |
knome | gradient is not a problem | 16:00 |
knome | the top just feels too dark | 16:01 |
MatthewAllen | http://i.imgur.com/L2VnPDr.png | 16:02 |
MatthewAllen | Should I leave the nav and sidebar as Ubuntu Orange, or fade them aswell? | 16:03 |
MatthewAllen | Also - background ok? Lighterned it up | 16:03 |
knome | nav and panel are ok (though you'll likely want to make sure the panel bg isn't that bright when there's text on it) | 16:05 |
knome | the bg is also better, but as i guessed, the tables look a bit dark related to that now (and the light hue of the orange too) | 16:05 |
MatthewAllen | that's what I was thinking, going to lighten them up with the color pallete you linked me | 16:06 |
knome | yup | 16:06 |
knome | as you probably see, the balance of the whole page is slowly getting there too | 16:06 |
MatthewAllen | thanks for the help in getting in improved :) | 16:08 |
knome | no problem | 16:08 |
MatthewAllen | http://i.imgur.com/2TQkftu.png | 16:08 |
knome | yeah, much better | 16:09 |
knome | though the checkered look is a bit weird | 16:09 |
knome | at the product column | 16:09 |
MatthewAllen | hmm, that's because I'm using 2 colors on opposites | 16:09 |
MatthewAllen | Would you rather have 4 diffrent? | 16:10 |
MatthewAllen | so there's no checker | 16:10 |
knome | i think it would be simply fine to drop the special handling for the last column | 16:10 |
knome | just have two colors for the alternate rows | 16:10 |
MatthewAllen | mmk | 16:10 |
knome | i don't know if this is too little contrast for those who might have problems with eyesight | 16:11 |
knome | off again, will be back later | 16:13 |
MatthewAllen | knome, beyond that is there anything else major that I need to change? Or just implement the add a bug form? | 16:14 |
knome | hmm, from my point of view, i think we are pretty close for being ready for this task | 16:15 |
knome | i would ask balloons if he has anything | 16:15 |
knome | (and i guess i just did... ;)) | 16:15 |
MatthewAllen | I talked to him before, and he's pretty much saying it's up to you | 16:15 |
knome | aha | 16:15 |
knome | then once you're done tweaking, send the latest mockup to the task again, and i'll look at it once more, and most likely approve | 16:15 |
knome | thanks! | 16:16 |
MatthewAllen | awesome, thankyou very much | 16:16 |
knome | but now, actually off -> | 16:16 |
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fazer | elopio, can you approve my task on GCI please? | 23:44 |
elopio | fazer: done. Thank you. | 23:46 |
fazer | No problem. Thank you. | 23:46 |
elopio | I've increased the count on the task so we can get more work to get to full coverage. | 23:47 |
elopio | fazer: a low hanging fruit would be to do the same to cover the the bzr line. | 23:47 |
fazer | elopio, yeah I was going to do that. But it won't let me reclaim the task. Can you change something on your side so I can do it multiple times? | 23:48 |
fazer | what do you mean you've increased the count on the task? | 23:49 |
elopio | fazer: I don't know what to do to let you reclaim it. | 23:50 |
fazer | hmmm.. ok. balloons, any idea? ^^ | 23:51 |
elopio | maybe this is not how it works, and I should add a new task. | 23:51 |
fazer | No, I've seen some tasks that can be claimed as many times as they want by the same person. | 23:52 |
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