[09:28] hi [13:54] MatthewAllen, replied to you with another wall of text in the task... [13:54] the 1000 character limitation is just silly :P [13:55] knome, so your thinking for the submission form a sort of button that follows up and down the page on the right hand side that slides out when clicked? [13:56] well i was imagining it as a 100% tall panel [13:56] which would be, say 50px wide when hidden [13:56] and when you open it, it would open the whole form [13:56] whether it should overlap data or not, i'm not sure [13:59] also, we start to approach the territory where you'd more or less need to see stuff in action to know how well it works :) [14:00] btw, how are you creating those mockups ATM? do you have some HTML which you are styling with CSS, or are you just working with an image editing software? [14:00] knome, photoshop atm [14:00] I have decent experience with HTML and CSS so it shouldn't be a huge issue to try implementing some stuff [14:00] right, then it's not a completely trivial task to make that a "live" mockup [14:01] mhm, and if you run into problems, i can help with that too [14:01] knome, would something such as this be right for the tab? http://i.imgur.com/MOwGWQy.png [14:01] yeah, something like that [14:03] knome, just wondering where this task ends? When you're happy with the mockup? Or when stuffs actually getting implemented? [14:03] i still don't know exactly what balloons had in mind, but as he said: "when the mockup is ready to be implemented" [14:03] so i guess he would like to see how the different parts would look like [14:03] for the text spacing issue, i'm fine now [14:04] for the menu, well, you could do one more attempt [14:04] knome, with the results table would implementing it across the full height of the page not leave a bunch of whitespace? [14:04] not if it was overlaid on top of the other content [14:05] (technically, position: fixed;) [14:11] coffee break now, i'm back after that and free for more discussion :) [14:19] How do you feel about something like this? http://i.imgur.com/vQHg3FC.png [14:56] knome, ^ === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [15:02] knome, also tried to address your Navigation comments - see here http://i.imgur.com/DxeMAwQ.png [15:19] MatthewAllen, i think the first solution is a bit weird... how would the dialog extend from that position? [15:20] as in extending from the side of the page? [15:21] not exactly sure :/ [15:21] re: navigation, that's better :) [15:21] i'll do a quick and dirty HTML mockup for you for the panel i was thinking about... [15:22] ok, cheers :) [15:32] MatthewAllen, so as i said, quick and dirty... http://temp.knome.fi/googlecodein/panel-mockup/ [15:33] knome, oohhh - I understand now [15:33] I was a bit confused before as you clearly worked out [15:33] well, i probably could have been more clear ;) [15:33] so this both won't take space when not open [15:34] but also follows the user, so regardless where they are in the page, they can quickly access the panel [15:34] in the final implementation one can also make sure this appears at the top of the page if no JS is enabled [15:34] so it's not obtrusive either [15:35] mmk, will change my mock up to be in the fashion and let you have another look [15:35] sure :) [15:35] and fwiw, i think a working draft like mine there is something balloons is looking for in the next task :) [15:35] (it doesn't need to be perfect either) [15:35] are you thinking the side bar should simply have little arrow markers like yours, or actually have text so it's clear for the user? [15:36] that's up to you [15:36] this was just the easiest thing i could think of in the 5 minutes i set that up [15:36] or 10, it looks [15:38] and of course, in the final implementation, you'd need to make sure if the panel won't fit in the window vertically, you'll need to add some scrollbars [15:38] my mockup isn't doing anything like that, neither is it making sure the arrow and text on the panel look good when the window isn't tall [15:38] (they don't) [15:38] I'm sure when the final implementation occurs you'll be having a look along the way, to make sure it's being done propely :) [15:39] mhm, at least considering i have the time [15:39] but i should have at least some time... [15:39] and this is not something i imagine we'll have ready for production before the contest ends anyway [15:39] I'd very much doubt that [15:40] I intend to keep working especially with the QA-Website after the competition ends anyway [15:40] with 10 highly trained code monkeys and same amount of UI monkeys working full time on this... maybe ;) [15:40] great! [15:40] nice to see people getting involved not just for the contest period :) [15:41] only thing is once school goes back I'll have a lot less time free [15:41] you know, "$other_thing is taking my time" is quite normal in FOSS development :D [15:42] that's the luck I've had for this competition, I've had school holidays the entire time [15:42] ...unless you are paid to do it, in which case you are still probably swamped with work on different tasks [15:42] Australian school holidays line up really will with Google CodeIn [15:42] mhm, it's unfortunate that canonical holidays did too [15:42] Haha yeah, I have exams over this week and I've had school most of the competition, my school times suck with GCI, but eh, it's life [15:43] Next year if I'm a mentor my college break times should match up super well though, which is good [15:43] guess it all depends on country, you in the US or somewhere else? [15:43] Yup, US [15:43] ahh, only issue for me is the time zones [15:43] MatthewAllen, btw, if you potentially have some "free time" for more tasks before the contest ends, i might have one for you [15:44] MatthewAllen, or at least, one that might be of interest for you [15:44] but it's not published yet [15:44] knome, feel free to tell me - I've been spending a bunch of free time fixing some QA-Tracker bugs [15:44] MatthewAllen, basically i've created this wordpress theme for ubuntu community teams to use -> https://github.com/knomepasi/ubuntu-community-wordpress-theme/ [15:44] MatthewAllen, i don't know exactly what the task would be, but it would be something along the lines of "test, try to break it, give feedback, and file bugs" [15:45] and obviously it would involve setting up a wordpress installation somewhere :) [15:45] I'd be keen to check that out :) [15:45] (and regardless of whether it will be a task or not, all feedback and help with the theme is welcome9 [15:45] From playing around I feel having text in the sidebar looks a bit stupid, so I'd implement it similarly to yours - http://i.imgur.com/cndaOUL.png [15:46] yeah, maybe one could add a link in the content area that said "Report ..." [15:46] which would then open the panel [15:46] and the panel could totally have a tooltip too [15:47] I could probally put it in the Notice Board sectio, or in the nav bar under testing tracker [15:47] for that, we'd likely need feedback from people who will end up using the tracker [15:47] as i see it, since that's the number one thing we want people to do on that page, it could be on a few places [15:47] for example, above bugs to look for and below the test reports [15:48] but i would say that's more or less minutiae - people who use the tracker will tell where they would look for that link [15:49] I guess once they've used it once though, and know of the changes it wont be a huge issue anymore [15:50] we still have to account for new testers, it has to be intuitive and easy for them as well [15:53] I've added it under the notice board section and at the bottom of the reported bugs section - http://i.imgur.com/UJ2kxF5.png [15:55] mm, putting it on the table is not a bad idea at all [15:55] it's pretty hard to miss [15:55] maybe that needs some tweaking (i always feel the ubuntu orange all over the place is too much) [15:56] but yeah, i can see where this is going, and i'm happy with that [15:56] I'd probally agree with that, any ideas? [15:56] http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette [15:56] see for "Tints" [15:56] could use something like 40% [15:57] and i would probably argue that the button should be printed with a different color from the table header [15:57] but again, that's minutiae [15:57] so where are you saying I should use the 40% as opossed to the full? [15:58] using that instead of the 100% color in all of the table headers etc. would totally make the page easier on the eyes [15:58] will have a look at that now [15:58] but would still stand out enough [15:59] and you can try the page with the warm greys they list on the page too [15:59] i'm personally a huge fan of the background color (too dark for me), but others might disagree [16:00] as in the background on the tables? or the page itself? [16:00] the whole page [16:00] do you have an issue with it being a gradient, or just want it to be lighter? [16:00] when you change the page background, you likely have to tweak the tables too [16:00] gradient is not a problem [16:01] the top just feels too dark [16:02] http://i.imgur.com/L2VnPDr.png [16:03] Should I leave the nav and sidebar as Ubuntu Orange, or fade them aswell? [16:03] Also - background ok? Lighterned it up [16:05] nav and panel are ok (though you'll likely want to make sure the panel bg isn't that bright when there's text on it) [16:05] the bg is also better, but as i guessed, the tables look a bit dark related to that now (and the light hue of the orange too) [16:06] that's what I was thinking, going to lighten them up with the color pallete you linked me [16:06] yup [16:06] as you probably see, the balance of the whole page is slowly getting there too [16:08] thanks for the help in getting in improved :) [16:08] no problem [16:08] http://i.imgur.com/2TQkftu.png [16:09] yeah, much better [16:09] though the checkered look is a bit weird [16:09] at the product column [16:09] hmm, that's because I'm using 2 colors on opposites [16:10] Would you rather have 4 diffrent? [16:10] so there's no checker [16:10] i think it would be simply fine to drop the special handling for the last column [16:10] just have two colors for the alternate rows [16:10] mmk [16:11] i don't know if this is too little contrast for those who might have problems with eyesight [16:13] off again, will be back later [16:14] knome, beyond that is there anything else major that I need to change? Or just implement the add a bug form? [16:15] hmm, from my point of view, i think we are pretty close for being ready for this task [16:15] i would ask balloons if he has anything [16:15] (and i guess i just did... ;)) [16:15] I talked to him before, and he's pretty much saying it's up to you [16:15] aha [16:15] then once you're done tweaking, send the latest mockup to the task again, and i'll look at it once more, and most likely approve [16:16] thanks! [16:16] awesome, thankyou very much [16:16] but now, actually off -> === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW [23:44] elopio, can you approve my task on GCI please? [23:46] fazer: done. Thank you. [23:46] No problem. Thank you. [23:47] I've increased the count on the task so we can get more work to get to full coverage. [23:47] fazer: a low hanging fruit would be to do the same to cover the the bzr line. [23:48] elopio, yeah I was going to do that. But it won't let me reclaim the task. Can you change something on your side so I can do it multiple times? [23:49] what do you mean you've increased the count on the task? [23:50] fazer: I don't know what to do to let you reclaim it. [23:51] hmmm.. ok. balloons, any idea? ^^ [23:51] maybe this is not how it works, and I should add a new task. [23:52] No, I've seen some tasks that can be claimed as many times as they want by the same person.