[00:12] <daftykins> Azelphur: did you check the SMART table on that disk? :>
[00:12] <Azelphur> daftykins: NO, STAY AWAY FROM MY DRIVES
[00:13] <Azelphur> daftykins: hehe, yea I had a look, but it doesn't seem so bad
[00:14] <daftykins> :D
[00:14] <daftykins> fancy sharing a paste? :> smartctl -a /dev/sda naturally
[00:16] <Azelphur> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14500056/ opinions?
[00:16] <daftykins> oh SSD anyway
[00:25] <daftykins> small EVO :(
[00:25]  * diddledan EVO lves
[00:25] <daftykins> well as long as you keep it backed up :D
[00:26] <diddledan> I've got a 1TB EVO 840 and a 500GB EVO 850 :-p
[00:26] <daftykins> Azelphur: looks like you're behind on the firmware
[00:27] <Azelphur> diddledan: I've got 1TB EVO 850 and a 120GB 840 EVO
[00:27] <Azelphur> daftykins: yea, I've never upgraded it
[00:27] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet that spot's charge dropped enough that it wasn't so easily readable, marking the disk as needing an fsck
[00:27] <daftykins> ah well the 840 EVOs had an issue identified that means the latest firmware periodically rewrites given cells to prolong/boost their readability
[00:28] <diddledan> yeah I upgraded the firmware on my 840
[00:28] <Azelphur> guess I should too
[00:28] <daftykins> that smartctl speaks of EXT0BB6Q whilst the site has EXT0DB6Q :>
[00:28] <daftykins> http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/downloads/software/Samsung_SSD_840_PRO_Series_DXM06B0Q_Win_Mac.iso
[00:29] <Azelphur> is it easy to upgrade the FW on a Linux machine?
[00:29] <diddledan> hmm
[00:29] <diddledan> no idea
[00:30] <daftykins> well that appears to be a bootable ISO
[00:30] <daftykins> i was on - http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/support/downloads.html
[00:48] <m0nkey_> I see Tim will be going for his spacewalk tomorrow :)
[00:48] <m0nkey_> Who'd ever think a Sussex born and bred lad would go up to the ISS.
[00:50] <arsenip> hah
[00:50] <arsenip> i met him once or twice ;d
[00:51] <m0nkey_> I don't have that sort of claim, I'm just proud that somebody from Sussex is now floating around in space :)
[00:55] <arsenip> well, i understan he was a good pilot, he was an apache test pilot on the base i was attached to.
[01:00] <daftykins> ooh
[01:00] <daftykins> fancy
[01:03] <arsenip> i assume apache anyway, there were only two army guys, and i met both - and we only had apaches at the time i think.
[01:03] <arsenip> anywho - pretty cool
[01:04] <arsenip> portsmouth uni alumni too, daftykins ;)
[01:05] <daftykins> that poor, poor...
[01:05] <daftykins> i'm amazed that wasn't an instant disqualification ;)
[01:06] <arsenip> hah.
[01:07] <diddledan> it's crazy that 8GB of ram isn't enough to run OSX with a windows 10 VM
[01:09] <daftykins> how is it not? that seems simple
[01:10] <diddledan> because with a 2GB VM I run out of ram
[01:11] <diddledan> i.e. my mac starts having issues with swapping and compressed ram
[01:11] <diddledan> and the "memory pressure" graph goes right to the top
[01:16] <daftykins> did you already have a tonne of junk running on the host?
[01:22] <diddledan> well I use the host for things, yeah
[01:22] <daftykins> not quite what i meant :P
[01:23] <diddledan> shutting everything I'm working with down just because I need a windows utility seems a bit... counter producting
[01:23] <diddledan> productive*
[01:24] <diddledan> there's no point it being a VM in that case, I might as well dual boot
[01:24] <daftykins> well it'd be pretty obvious based on use whether something is gonna work well or not isn't it
[01:24] <daftykins> time for more RAM :)
[01:24] <diddledan> yeah. more ram means new mac. these have the ram soldered on the board
[01:24] <daftykins> ah, they're evil for that
[01:25] <diddledan> I'm far too scared to consider resoldering! :-p
[01:26] <daftykins> i wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't even an option
[01:28] <daftykins> also what happened to that surface of yours? :)
[06:15] <MooDoo> morning all
[06:16] <bittin-> morning
[06:17] <MooDoo> upgradin to 16.04 :D
[06:22] <daftykins> D:
[06:22] <daftykins> bit early no?
[06:24] <MooDoo> daftykins: yeah probably, but hay what the hell, i'm a nutter :D
[06:42] <daftykins> proper temperature drop today
[06:52] <knightwise> morning
[06:53] <daftykins> sooo openssh to patch
[07:22] <mapps> hi all
[08:23] <MooDoo> howdy mapps
[09:20] <davmor2> Morning all happy Friday
[09:34] <MooDoo> anyone going for IRC council membership?
[09:35] <zmoylan-pi> irc is organised?! :-P
[09:36] <MooDoo> lol
[09:54]  * davmor2 sees zmoylan-pi nick disappear in a puff of smoke
[09:56] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: never insult our irc overlords, bow humbly and worship at the foot of the irc totem, then frolic and have fun on irc again :D
[09:58] <popey> IRC RAGE LEVEL: ▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▰▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱▱
[09:59] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: see how you anger the overlords worship I said worship damn you ;)
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Hat Day! 😃  🎩
[10:11] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 JamesTait
[10:11] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:12] <MooDoo> popey: OMG it's over 9000 :)
[10:12] <MooDoo> morning brobostigon
[10:13] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:17] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm :)
[10:18] <bigcalm> o/
[10:25] <MooDoo> :)
[10:26] <foobarry> the evernote login page really annoys me
[10:26] <foobarry> they never remember your settings and have these annoying people with gummy smiles
[10:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: here is an odd one for your day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3l0kpl5tA4
[10:29] <popey> foobarry, ditto
[10:32] <JamesTait> davmor2, marks for originality.
[10:33] <davmor2> JamesTait: trying for a nice tune with a hat that wasn't obvious :) That one sprang to mind :D
[10:35] <davmor2> JamesTait: I think not playing anything by men without hats is a good bet too
[10:36] <davmor2> JamesTait: that is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NytXT-U-tg
[10:47] <davmor2> there is even
[10:52] <foobarry> has anyone come across guix?
[10:53] <foobarry> its an alternate package manager and software distribution that sits under its own tree
[10:53] <foobarry> allegedly useful for providing up to date gnu binaries on centos
[10:53] <foobarry> which are sometimes required to build stuff
[11:00] <popey> yeah, vaguely
[11:00] <popey> based on Nix isn't it?
[11:01] <foobarry> i dunno. users are asking for it for hpc
[11:02] <foobarry> a bit wary if they use guix tools as dependency for their tools, due to their continuous updating nature
[11:04] <davmor2> foobarry: would likely cause a lot of system issues if they suddenly land gcc5 on a system built for 4.x too maybe
[11:04] <foobarry> its all contained in one fieltree
[11:04] <foobarry> and doesn't touch /usr/
[11:05] <foobarry> however i'm rather wary of it all
[11:07] <diplo> I'd be setting up a VM test and try it out myself
[11:07] <foobarry> its rather a long term concern
[11:07] <foobarry> and how users will depend on it
[11:08] <foobarry> http://elephly.net/posts/2015-04-17-gnu-guix.html
[11:08] <foobarry> this guy is for it
[11:09] <foobarry> however his arguments for it seem also to be the arugments against it
[11:09] <diplo> Is it defo needed though or a ncie to have I guess is the point you need to decide on
[11:09] <foobarry> we provide updated versions of tools manually via modules commands
[11:10] <foobarry> its kind of the devops side effect of users wanting more while bypassing the ops guys
[11:10] <diplo> So a very very very quick overview, it basically lets users run new versions of stuff but not affect others
[11:10] <diplo> Doing things like virtualenv etc
[11:11] <foobarry> provides newest gnu packages that might not be in your distro
[11:11] <foobarry> however we do a lot of that ourselves via modules
[11:13] <diplo> It sounds to me like you're on your way to doing what is required, just need to keep on top of it for them and over what they need?
[11:13] <foobarry> i think the solution probably lies in understanding their requirements better
[11:13] <foobarry> what tools they claim to require
[11:20] <diplo> yeah I was meant to put that at the end of my sentence :D
[12:00] <foobarry> vagrant .deb is 70MB !!
[12:00] <foobarry> what the heck is in there
[12:20] <andylockran> hwody
[12:24] <davmor2> andylockran: Hwody right back at ya :)
[12:33] <MooDoo> davmor2: oi I'm the howdy man around here :p
[12:34] <davmor2> MooDoo: that's fine I didn't steal your thunder I said Hwody not Howdy :P
[12:34] <andylockran> davmor2: hows things?
[12:35] <davmor2> andylockran: good thanks and for you?
[12:37] <MooDoo> lol
[12:51] <andylockran> yeah, I'm all super dooper.
[12:51] <andylockran> Started a new job
[12:52] <andylockran> got approached for web manager @ Canonical but it didn't get anywehere :(
[13:05] <popey> :(
[13:05] <foobarry> did they say why andylockran
[13:12] <MooDoo> andylockran: what you doing now out of interest?
[13:36] <andylockran> MooDoo: contracting: www.lockran.com
[13:36] <andylockran> :)
[13:37] <andylockran> currently working in an innovation role
[14:15] <foobarry> accidentally farted out loud in the office
[14:15] <foobarry> thought it was gonna be quiet
[14:18] <popey> cool story bro
[14:28] <foobarry> you're welcome
[14:51] <diddledan> foobarry: well done!
[15:29] <foobarry> is the kindle fire stick basically a chromecast?
[15:30] <foobarry> doesn't seem to have youtube on it though
[15:32] <popey> yeah, can't play amazon video on chromecast, and can't play google stuff on amazon fire
[15:33] <foobarry> sucks
[15:33] <popey> mind you, my chromecast isn't needed much now i have a telly that has smarts
[15:34] <foobarry> i am slowly converting all my dvds
[15:34] <foobarry> my dvd shelf is really hard to access
[16:11] <Laney> I prefer using the Chromecast over Samsung's shitty smart TV OS
[16:12] <Laney> They keep forcing their partner apps onto it
[16:12] <Laney> displacing the things I actually want to be easily accessible
[16:15] <foobarry> i have £15 to spend on goog play
[16:15] <foobarry> can't think of anything i want
[16:32] <Myrtti> books
[16:32] <Myrtti> lots of books
[16:32] <Myrtti> that's where most of my goog money goes
[16:37] <foobarry> i've been reading the same book for a while
[16:37] <foobarry> bit of a long read, but a goody
[16:37] <foobarry> enigma by hug sebag montefiore
[16:37] <foobarry> the ultimate story of enigma and cool naval battles
[16:43] <zmoylan-pi> try master and commander series. the author took all the engagements from naval records from napolean wars
[16:50] <bigcalm> FreeSat box has a Netflix app. I hope it gets an Amazon Prime video app soon
[16:51] <bigcalm> Now that I've been using Amazon Prime Video for a bit, I think that there was more available on  Netflix that interested me
[16:56] <diplo> Just got Netflix myself today
[16:57] <diplo> And national trust membership :)
[17:00] <bigcalm> We have life time NT membership. Very worth while investment
[22:19] <brobostigon> any insight, i own two openpgp smartcards, and when i try and sign something, it always ask for one specific card, and wont allow me to choose which it uses, any ideas why, please.