[08:17] supergonkas: very quiet here. I asked something yesterday and nobody said anything after that [08:53] hi there... so i have this machine where 'initctl start rc' hangs :) [08:53] i messed with upstart config by injecting several local tasks [08:53] what's the best way to debug this? [08:54] i have a job that runs a long time upon boot, 291 seconds the last time around [08:54] and then it finishes, and things should proceed after that, but they don't [08:54] is there a timeout on upstart's attempts to proceed? [10:05] Joy: there might be some, but I didn't find in docs [10:05] Joy: I also have a weird startup problem, a .conf file mysteriously fails but no trace of the reason in logs [10:07] hmm, actually, now there WAS a reason in syslog... it could not change the working directory [10:07] need to reboot, br