[00:33] <r_rios> Hello. I'm currently running Kubuntu 12.04 (can't upgrade to 14.04) and I see I can upgrade to Plasma 4.11 using the kubuntu backports. Has anyone done that? Is it reasonably safe?
[00:33] <r_rios> Some bugs with 4.8 are annoying me
[00:38] <r_rios> The answer is no
[00:39] <r_rios> I added the backports repo, but there were several conflicts when I tried to install kde-workspace
[00:41] <keyvin> I'm getting constant plasma-desktop crashes with kubuntu 15.10. I have integrated intel HD 5500 graphics
[00:41] <keyvin> Anyone know what gives?
[00:42] <keyvin> I guess I'll try a bleeding edge kernel ppa
[00:42] <r_rios> keyvin: not an expert, but there are some things which can trigger bugs like those
[00:42] <r_rios> For instance: did you upgrade from Plasma 4?
[02:05] <Grunt_> Hello
[02:51] <mmnix> hey guys, I repartitioned my hard drive and since then sddm-greeter is not starting anymore :/ sddm is running but when i try to call sddm-greeter it says could not connect to display
[02:51] <mmnix> any suggestions how that could happend -.-?
[03:39] <LiveUSB> Hello
[03:40] <LiveUSB> I'm having the roughest time downgrading Kubuntu via LiveUSB
[03:40] <LiveUSB> can somebody assist
[03:42] <LiveUSB> I'm using Unetbootin to make a bootable usb drive with 14.04.
[03:43] <LiveUSB> without sudo during initiation of app, it says drive not mounted
[03:43] <LiveUSB> with sudo it goes through the process and transfers files
[03:44] <LiveUSB> but upon bootup into usb drive.. it just resarts the main OS
[03:44] <LiveUSB> I can never reach the 14.04 installation screen
[03:48] <LiveUSB> I never had this issue with Ubuntu
[04:01] <LiveUSB> .
[06:34] <kean_> hello
[08:24] <Maxiride> Just started using a mobile hotspot, is there a way in KSysGuard to see total network usage? aka total data sent\recieved?
[09:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:13] <Arthur_D> hi, baloo_file is apparently eating up over half a gigabyte of RAM, it started doing that quite recently and I only did the normal updates for 14.04
[11:14] <Arthur_D> I only have 6 GB of RAM so it's not that I have anything against RAM usage but at times it leaves too little for the rest of the system :/
[11:14] <soee> might be it is indexing
[11:15] <soee> so after indexing is finished, all should get to normal memory consumption
[11:15] <Arthur_D> probably, but I wonder what it's indexing, I haven't copied a lot of files recently
[11:15] <soee> bude 14.04 uses KDE4 so i can say much here  as i haven't been using it for a long time
[11:16] <soee> *can't say much
[11:23] <Arthur_D> hmm actually I have copied a lot of files recently, I have an automatic backup to another computer, and I have sshfs to it as well, so maybe it's indexing the other computer as well
[11:24] <lordievader> You could run an 'strace -eopen -p $BALOO' (replace the variable with baloo's pid) to see what it opens.
[11:36] <Arthur_D> thanks lordievader I'll try that
[11:39] <Arthur_D> hmm nothing
[11:40] <Arthur_D> "Process 2301 attached" and then nothing
[11:40] <lordievader> Hmm, it is just taking up memory? Is there cpu activity?
[11:42] <Arthur_D> there is 1-3% processor usage as well
[11:42] <Arthur_D> and some sleep also
[11:45] <lordievader> Yeah, that is not doing much. It is just claiming memory if you ask me ;)
[11:50] <Arthur_D> yes it kinda looks like that :(
[12:02] <Arthur_D> maybe I'll just have to buy more RAM
[12:05] <lordievader> Or restart baloo ;)
[12:05] <lordievader> Or even disable it if you don't use it.
[12:06] <Arthur_D> not sure if I use it or not, might help with file search?
[12:07] <lordievader> That is the idea (I thought, I don't use it ;) )
[12:40] <ejay> Hi all. How can I get rid of one of those volume controlers from systray? Got two now after readding systray widget to panel.
[12:46] <soee_> you can uninstall one
[12:46] <soee_> either kmix or plasma-pa
[12:48] <michelsedgh> soee_: whats the plasma-pa name in add widgets?? i dont find it!
[12:49] <ejay> And is it possible to remove kde connecT?
[12:49] <soee_> well it is package name for new audio control widget
[12:50] <soee_> in Plasma 5.6 it will also have controls for running apps etc.
[12:50] <soee_> ejay: why not ?
[12:50] <michelsedgh> soee_: i know but how can i add it to my systray?
[12:50] <soee_> michelsedgh: isn't it by default ?
[12:50] <michelsedgh> idk let me check
[12:51] <soee_> rught click on it - does it says Audio Volume Controls ?
[12:51] <soee_> *Settings
[12:51] <ejay> Ok, my sys tray just went ape shit. Is there some cache for sys tray so it will go back to default?
[12:51] <soee_> what happend ?
[12:51] <ejay> cache to remove*
[12:51] <michelsedgh> audio volume settings :)
[12:52] <soee_> michelsedgh: well so you probably using plasma-pa
[12:52] <michelsedgh> yeah i thought its not enabled by default
[12:52] <michelsedgh> thanks :)
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:54] <ejay> So is it some cache for systray? Google gives me nothing.
[12:54] <soee_> uhm i dont know
[12:54] <soee_> either .cache
[12:55] <soee_> or /var/cache
[12:56] <ejay> I mean, I know where cache files are but I wonder if someone here knows if there is particular cache file for systray only. Don't want to kill ksyscoca or whatever just because systray is not working as intended.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> think locating the config file and editing it would be the method to use
[12:59] <ejay> Also - bonus question. Is it possible AND safe to install lxqt DE on system with plasma? I want to see if double screen monitor is plasma only issue (gnome is working fine).
[12:59] <soee_> dunno, laptop + TV via hdmi works fine for me
[13:00] <soee_> @work PC with 2 screens works fine also
[13:00] <ejay> soee_: "works fine for me"
[13:00] <BigFredy> hi all
[13:00] <soee_> hiho
[13:01] <ejay> soee_: problem is - I don't really care if it work for you. It must work for me. Also - we probably have different expectations.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hey soee_, BigFredy
[13:01] <soee_> so how can you say taht you eant to see if it doesnt work only on plasma
[13:01] <soee_> i told yo it works here so it works on plasma
[13:02] <soee_> maybe your configuration has some problems
[13:02] <ejay> soee_: it work on gnome. I want to see if souble screen setup works on Qt based DE so I can exclude Qt related issue.
[13:02] <soee_> BluesKaj: i think you also use 2 screens no ?
[13:03] <soee_> ejay: i always prefere to use single DE and do not mix them
[13:03] <BluesKaj> ejay, a lot of these multi monitor problems are gpu driver and setup related
[13:03] <soee_> someone said here last days that he could not switch from enlightment to Plasma
[13:04] <BluesKaj> soee_, no, just one monitor/tv
[13:04] <soee_> ah ok :)
[13:04] <ejay> BluesKaj: double screen setup works fine on gnome. Same setup, same drivers. It is something with plasma/qt. I don't believe it's qt.
[13:04] <ejay> But I want to install lxqt to be sure if it's only plasma related issue.
[13:04] <soee_> ejay: but both screens fail ?
[13:06] <ejay> soee_: none of screens fails. I can plug in my second monitor and use it - that's cool. Not cool is what plasma is doing with windows - putting them on secondary no matter what. Also widgets as task manager are losing their shit when pluggin in second monitor.
[13:07] <soee_> ejay: what Plasma version are you running ?
[13:07] <ejay> soee_: 5.4.2
[13:07] <soee_> if screens for than it probably is Plasma fault somehow
[13:07] <soee_> ejay: no upgrade to 5.4.3 from backports ?
[13:08] <soee_> ejay: also very soon we should release 5.5.3 to backports, so a lot of bugfixes comming
[13:08] <ejay> soee_: yeah, I'm on 5.4.3, mea culpa
[13:09] <soee_> i have 5.4.3 @work and i had small problems there but now almost all works fine, but i use activities and i bind apps to activities
[13:10] <ejay> soee_: You know what I thinking? I think that what is happening is just intended by devs and every "works for me" person just don't mind collecting windows all over from both monitors and moving head left and right because dialog windows are appearing randomly wherever plasma want them to appear. Ugh.
[13:11] <soee_> dialog issue i have only with Chromium Browser sometimes i think
[13:18] <ejay> It's prolly like this new systray API where skype and bunch of not so not-important apps couldn't be docked in systray. #future
[13:21] <soee_> they are back in 5.5
[17:28] <SergioEDuran1> Hi friends I have a little question:
[17:28] <SergioEDuran1> well I have an Intel x3000 GPU and I am having issues with th plasma 5 renderization
[17:29] <SergioEDuran1> specially with OpenGL 2, less issues with OpenGL3 and less with Xrender
[17:31] <SergioEDuran1> sometimes (for example) the grid of the workspaces expo has an issue where the workspaces you are not using becomes completelly black
[17:32] <SergioEDuran1> and other wheere switching from window to window via the taskbar is a little bit glitchy and presents some lags
[17:32] <BluesKaj> SergioEDuran1, workspaces? as in virtual desktops? or activities or both?
[17:33] <SergioEDuran1> virtual desktop
[17:33] <SergioEDuran1> and there are sometimes where the same desktop effects makes the screen blink in blaack or the window blinks showing the wallpaper on the glitch
[17:34] <SergioEDuran1> i mean there is like if the window started to disappear blinking
[17:34] <SergioEDuran1> letting you see the wallpaper
[17:34] <SergioEDuran1> I would need to use the workarround for intel GPUs?
[17:35] <SergioEDuran1> https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwib8bXC6a7KAhUK6CYKHVSkB9cQFggcMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.phoronix.com%2Fscan.php%3Fpage%3Dnews_item%26px%3Dintel-plasma-5-driver-crash&usg=AFQjCNGUAkhLfQm7LA35pk5JxzQTilyp1w&sig2=lKDW9gtf7sn4uZseFPPU0w
[17:35] <BluesKaj> SergioEDuran1,  which plsama version?
[17:35] <SergioEDuran1> 5.4.2, going for the 5.5.3 right now
[17:35] <SergioEDuran1> (I am in mid upgrade)
[17:35] <BluesKaj> SergioEDuran1, upgrade to 5.4.3 first
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok , 5.5.3 might work
[17:36] <SergioEDuran1> yes?
[17:36] <SergioEDuran1> I will let you know if something is new with my issue
[17:37] <BluesKaj> not sure, my laptop with intel 4000 gpu works well
[17:37] <SergioEDuran1> do you had the same issue as me with your GPU and older plasma desktops?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> no
[17:38] <SergioEDuran1> I see
[17:38] <SergioEDuran1> well see you
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:38] <SergioEDuran1> I will reboot to see what is new with 5.5.3 :D
[17:38] <BluesKaj> good luck :-)
[17:38] <SergioEDuran1> thank you
[17:46] <ejay> If SergioEduran1 will be online again you can tell him to try to change compositor rendering settings.
[17:47] <mparillo> Can somebody follow the URL to the FAQ in this channel topic?
[17:47] <mparillo> Do you end up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[17:48] <mparillo> I will edit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#Kubuntu to change KDE4
[17:48] <mparillo> Whoops!     Immutable Page
[17:50] <mparillo> Should we change the channel topic to point elsewhere? Perhaps to: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu ?
[18:20] <Guest89303> Hi, is Plasma 5.5.3 in backports already? Will there be an announcement on kubuntu.org/news?
[18:33] <mparillo> Not yet. You can add  kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing for wily, and head over to #kubuntu-devel to help test.
[19:12] <ibranba> hello
[20:23] <cjwelborn> Hello. I have a little UI bug going on in my lock screen for Plasma 5 (Breeze Theme, Maui SDDM Theme).The keyboard layout button is always way too small. I found a KeyboardLayoutButton.qml in my sddm breeze theme components (width: implicitWidth). Changing it doesn't seem to affect anything, and I'm not sure were else to look. Where do you go to edit the lock screen? Or the login screen for that matter?
[20:25] <cjwelborn> nevermind, I'm cross posting in #kde, and #plasma.
[20:31] <goddard> ive noticed kde doesn't handle bluetooth quite as well as when I was running unity.. any tricks to get this thing connecting every time?
[20:31] <goddard> I also noticed sometimes when disconnecting it will "run away" and lock my systme up completely
[20:31] <goddard> im on 14.04
[20:43] <renan> alguem pode me ensinar como funciona o para que que serve esse chato?
[20:43] <renan> chat
[20:53] <mparillo> !br
[21:57] <valorie> mmnix: have you run grub-update since you repartitioned?