[00:07] <valorie> !info renku
[00:07] <valorie> and why not
[00:08] <yofel> doesn't exist in any supported release
[00:08] <valorie> I'm testing zanshin from _Groo_'s ppa
[00:08] <valorie> It has been released.....
[00:08] <valorie> https://zanshin.kde.org/2016/01/01/zanshin-0.3.0/
[00:09] <valorie> I'm running into problems which I have reported
[00:09] <valorie> I wouldn't recommend releasing it for Kubuntu yet
[09:05] <soee> ok ill try to revert packages to archive version and fix dependencies
[09:12] <soee> yofel: there is problem with okular, amarok and gtk3-engines-oxygen
[09:13] <soee> and because of them also kubuntu-desktop meta package was removed
[09:16] <soee> yofel: when upgrading to updates-landing:  tryign to overwrite "/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_device_automounter.mo", which exists also in package kde-l10n-pl 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1
[09:16] <soee> and it causes /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.5.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa8_all.deb to fail to update :)
[09:18] <soee> apt-get -f install fixes this though
[09:20] <soee> and here is final report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14543356/
[09:33] <acher88> soee: trying what you just did I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/14543418/
[09:35] <acher88> usually I don't have the kubuntu-desktop meta installed as it pulls in too much that I don't want on a machine I want to use day to day
[09:36] <soee> well yes, but i want okular and amarok etc. :)
[09:45] <acher88> I do normally as well. its some other bit and pieces i try to avoid. that machine above is testing, so not what i would normally select
[10:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:22] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: ping
[11:22] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: ping
[11:34] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: pong
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: uscan --download-current-version --destdir=../
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin> uscan warning: In debian/watch no matching hrefs for version 15.12.0 in watch line
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin>   http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/([\d.]+)/src/okular-([\d.]+).tar.xz
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin> this happened before
[11:36] <ovidiu-florin> but I don't remember how I fixed it
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:41] <clivejo> might be because 15.12.1 is out?
[11:42] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: did it work before?
[11:45] <clivejo> uscan is strange at times
[11:46] <clivejo> Its main purpose is to check for newer versions of upstream software 
[11:47] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: that's why it failed the last time
[11:47] <ovidiu-florin> because there was a newer version available
[11:48] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: try this "uscan --no-download --verbose"
[11:48] <clivejo> is it reporting 15.12.1
[11:52] <ovidiu-florin> Newest version on remote site is 15.12.1, local version is 15.12.0
[11:53] <clivejo> yeah, its finding the most recent version
[11:53] <clivejo> just wget the 15.12.0 version
[11:54] <clivejo> and link or rename it to suite
[11:55] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: Finished running lintian.
[11:55] <ovidiu-florin> Now signing changes and any dsc files...
[11:55] <ovidiu-florin>  signfile okular_15.12.0-0ubuntu1.dsc Clive Johnston <clivejo@aol.com>
[11:56] <clivejo> Thats me :P
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> why does debuild -S try to sign this as you?
[11:56] <clivejo> because the changelog must say I changed it
[11:56] <soee> oh Apps 16.04 will have Akregator 2 :)
[12:03] <clivejo> therefore debsign is looking for my private key to sign the package
[12:09] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: updated the change log, still tries to sign as you : https://paste.kde.org/pjb9xydyy/hgmcmc
[12:10] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: its looking at line 13
[12:10] <ovidiu-florin> dch does nto write that properly
[12:11] <clivejo> That changelog says you made changes, but line 13 is saying Im the one working on it
[12:11] <clivejo> say lines 45-54
[12:11] <clivejo> see
[12:12] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: this is the original: https://paste.kde.org/p44swm7dv
[12:12] <clivejo> two people worked on it, but Riddell was the one to sign it
[12:12] <ovidiu-florin> so, what do I do?
[12:12] <clivejo> yup
[12:13] <clivejo> well depends what you are planning to do
[12:13] <clivejo> have you fixed in and planning to upload to staging PPA?
[12:13] <clivejo> it
[12:17] <acher88> akregator2 uses akonadi?
[12:19] <soee> http://www.aegiap.eu/kdeblog/2016/01/akregator/
[12:21]  * acher88 starts looking for a new RSS client
[12:21] <pm3003> Hi, I installed Plasma 5.5.3 on Wily. A few crashes at the beginning, but after 2 restarts everything is ok. However the windows in the taskbar are looking kinda weird. Is it normal? Should I report? 
[12:22] <pm3003> pic related http://i.imgur.com/zbK1fgD.png
[12:23] <clivejo> I think thats normal
[12:23] <soee> hey shouldn't  but there are small problems with rendering Task Manager items
[12:24] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: yes
[12:24] <ovidiu-florin> I'm done wiith the symbols
[12:24] <soee> next palsma-desktop + plasma-frameworks should somehow help here maybe, see: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358009
[12:24] <clivejo> LOL Im done with symbols too
[12:24]  * clivejo kicks symbols
[12:24] <acher88> pm3003: If that is Breeze, then it's not quite right 
[12:24] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: but I want to test it forst
[12:24] <ovidiu-florin> first
[12:25] <clivejo> have you debemail and a key setup?
[12:26] <clivejo> Im not sure how you take control of the changelog when you are just making changes
[12:26] <clivejo> when Im doing a new release I use dch -i, that creates a new changelog entry for me
[12:27] <clivejo> there is probably a command but I dont know it, maybe yofel sgclark can advise
[12:28] <clivejo> in this case dch -i will probably create a new version 
[12:28] <clivejo> which is not what we want
[12:28] <acher88> dch -i bumps the version I'm sure
[12:28] <clivejo> acher88: yup
[12:29] <clivejo> do you know how to take over the changelog?
[12:29] <acher88> I've only ever used +i for what I need
[12:29] <clivejo> I would just do it manually by adding my ID line
[12:30] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: I'll just give you the diff
[12:30] <acher88> +a append maybe?
[12:30] <acher88> dunno. not tried to see
[12:30] <ovidiu-florin> and you can test it?
[12:30] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: do a dch -i and pastebin it please
[12:30] <clivejo> that will generate your signture line
[12:31] <clivejo> and we can hack the rest
[12:31] <soee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8I6FUNpMgM
[12:37] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: have to go for a bit
[12:37] <clivejo> paste the results of dch -i
[12:50] <BluesKaj> acher88, I see thunderbird has RSS feed options
[12:55] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: I did a cleanup of my HOME yesterday, and I think I might have deleted something because now debuild -S does not find my key
[12:55] <ovidiu-florin> Kleopatra still reports the key as being available
[13:18] <acher88> BluesKak: Thnks - Have used TB in the past for that, and was never very happy with it
[13:29] <yofel> soee: dang, the merge broke the l10n fix.
[13:30] <yofel> clivejo: unless you want to explicitly increase the version, never use -i
[13:30] <soee> so it is not result of me messing with ppas ?
[13:30] <yofel> no
[13:30] <soee> ok
[13:31] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: dch doesn't change the person in the changelog by default, and we don't usually do that
[13:32] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: just tell debsign to override the signature key. (I'm pretty sure I recommended that a while ago already)
[13:32] <soee> yofel: any idea what is wrong with this 4 packages that prevent kubuntu-desktop to be installed ?
[13:33] <yofel> no, and not sure whether I'll debug that today
[13:33] <soee> ok
[13:33] <yofel> but thanks for the hint
[13:39] <soee> yofel: if you find time, could you look if we can add to 5.5.3 latest changes made in plasma-desktop and plasma-framework packages (as explained here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358009) ?
[13:43] <mparillo> Could somebody on Plasma 5.5.3 confirm: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357125
[13:43] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: oh, if you cleaned your home, you probably removed DEBSIGN_KEYID from ~/.devscripts
[13:56] <BluesKaj> acher88, I just set t-bird rss feeds with FF preferences>applications>web feed>use thunderbird and it works very well ..quite surprised actually :-)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> no akonadi needed 
[13:58] <acher88> BluesKaj: maybe it's better nowadays. now I think it must be nearly 10 years ago I gave it a try 
[16:10] <nicols> mparillo: i can confirm this. (although i don't remeber if there was "sort by name" option, i never used it before :))
[16:20] <soee> Krita 3.0 alpha soon https://krita.org/item/first-krita-3-0-pre-alpha/
[16:29] <nicols> someone mentioned here that problem with kate is solved? how? :)
[16:30] <soee> using Apps 15.12.x probably
[18:43] <acher88> nicols: Is this related to your VLC bug? https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/15663
[18:44] <acher88> https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/attachment/ticket/15663/vlcdd.png
[18:46] <acher88> Hence QT5.5 related?
[18:49] <acher88> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-48321
[18:54] <snele>  wow another bug only fixed in qt 5.6...
[18:54] <acher88> and we are not going to 5.6 for 16.04?
[18:58] <snele> acher88: seems no (at least ubuntu wont ship it).
[18:59] <snele> but kubuntu have to ship it one way or another (official repo or ppa)
[18:59] <snele> i think
[19:00] <snele> because most of the bugs in plasma 5.5 are qt bugs and there are fixed in qt 5.6
[19:00] <snele> *they
[19:01] <acher88> so would have to backport fixes to 5.5 to get them in
[19:01] <acher88> qt 5.5 that is
[19:02] <acher88> or qt 5.6 via ppa
[19:03] <soee> 16.04 will use 5.5
[19:03] <acher88> ah reading back, this discussion was already had last night.. sorry
[19:12] <mamarley> There was an initial attempt at packaging 5.6 in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-011, but it was FTBFS and hasn't been touched in a month.
[19:12] <mamarley> Mirv: Any update on that?^
[19:13] <mamarley> (The 5.6 beta, that is.)
[20:18] <soee> mamarley: http://news.softpedia.com/news/nvidia-linux-beta-driver-breaks-civilization-v-and-kotor2-causes-crashes-499032.shtml
[20:18] <soee> seems like some users still have problems with them :D
[21:50] <nicols> acher88: yes, that's it. tnx! ... must do some readings now :)
[22:53] <mparillo> nicols: Thank you. Do you order your Kickoff Favorites some other way?
[22:57] <valorie> what is kickoff?
[22:57] <valorie> Application Launcher?
[22:58] <valorie> ah, sorry, I see it above
[22:58] <valorie> I just drag them where I want them