| user__ | hello everybody | 00:35 |
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| user__ | I have a question regarding WiFi network center in UbuntuStudio | 00:37 |
| user__ | can enybody help me? | 00:37 |
| it | it is it it or am I it? | 10:19 |
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| FXpr0 | anyone in here? | 10:24 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, ask your questions | 10:24 |
| FXpr0 | its possible to put another distro's stuff on this distro? | 10:26 |
| FXpr0 | like, kxstudio for example. | 10:26 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, possible. inadviseable. | 10:26 |
| cfhowlett | ksxstudio has a wiki telling you how to do that | 10:26 |
| FXpr0 | not a good idea however. | 10:27 |
| cfhowlett | nope. | 10:27 |
| cfhowlett | problem is mixing repositories usually breaks things in which case ... you must reinstall. | 10:28 |
| FXpr0 | hmmm. I want to install this to hd but I already have a security debian distro installed. how difficult is it to add this one? | 10:28 |
| FXpr0 | like just partition right? | 10:28 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, never done it as ubuntustudio has everything I need. to add to debian, ask #debian | 10:28 |
| cfhowlett | you mean as a dual/multi boot | 10:29 |
| cfhowlett | ? | 10:29 |
| FXpr0 | yeah. debian distro is already installed and so is windows 7 as a just in case. | 10:30 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, check with #debian about multibooting | 10:31 |
| FXpr0 | windows 7 on this particular craptop is a clunky laggy slow thing. I gotta say this distro and the debian distro performs so much better. | 10:31 |
| cfhowlett | !debian > FXpr0 | 10:31 |
| ubottu | FXpr0, please see my private message | 10:31 |
| FXpr0 | this is a freebie compaq cq57-229wm chinamart laptop that was going to get a hammer taken to it by the original owner. I loaded 8gb of ram on it and it didnt really help with windows so I added linux and so far it is usable again. | 10:32 |
| cfhowlett | good save! | 10:33 |
| FXpr0 | haha | 10:33 |
| FXpr0 | what about adding this in overlay or whatever its called onto the debian version already installed to get all the audio and video stuff? | 10:34 |
| cfhowlett | http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio | 10:34 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, debian is not ubuntu, ubuntu is not debian. ask #debian | 10:34 |
| cfhowlett | as it it not supported here ... | 10:34 |
| FXpr0 | ok but lets say I want to nuke the debian and put this on instead but I want the security stuff or something similar which is why I put that debian release on tobegin with | 10:35 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, "this" meaning ...? | 10:36 |
| FXpr0 | I want the best of both worlds essentially. security for internet stuff and av production for my own projects. | 10:36 |
| FXpr0 | use ubuntustudio as the main linux os but add the security features | 10:37 |
| FXpr0 | OR add a secuirty distro of ubuntu and put the audio stuff on it?? | 10:37 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, what additional security do you think you need? | 10:37 |
| FXpr0 | I really like this distro though so far. very nice work | 10:37 |
| FXpr0 | like a tails anonymous pen testing penetration setup | 10:38 |
| FXpr0 | but not on a usb on the hard drive | 10:38 |
| FXpr0 | the debian distro is parrot security os which takes tails a step further with more flexibility | 10:39 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, since you are already dualbooting, I suggest you continue to do so. put whatever you want as the primary OS, put your alternate either in a virtualbox or a different partition. | 10:39 |
| FXpr0 | where as tails is strictly forced through tor parrot os gives the option to or not to. | 10:39 |
| FXpr0 | is a 1ghz dual amd c50 virtualboxable? | 10:40 |
| FXpr0 | probably will work but not very well | 10:40 |
| cfhowlett | should be | 10:40 |
| FXpr0 | I really would like parrot os as the base or this distro because it is ubuntu ready and add what I need basically fuse the 2 together so you have both feature sets | 10:42 |
| FXpr0 | that way I dont have to hope back and forth from one distro to the other | 10:43 |
| cfhowlett | no idea what parrot is, so can't advise. | 10:44 |
| FXpr0 | its a security penetration distro for forensics, and all that security stuff | 10:44 |
| FXpr0 | of course you know what tails is. like that but I think better as far as flexable etc... | 10:45 |
| FXpr0 | another benefit is performance on both distros, parrot and this studio version of ubuntu is great compared to what the computer had one it which was windows 7 home that I upgraded to a modded version of ultimate. | 10:46 |
| FXpr0 | I performance tweaked the crap out of 7 and it still lags like a dog. horrible. actually an embarrassment for microsoft. | 10:47 |
| FXpr0 | but of course they like to do that to drive hardware sales. | 10:48 |
| FXpr0 | unbelievable idea thief gates got away with it but he was there 2nd so, early bird gets the worm. | 10:49 |
| FXpr0 | and likewise, his crap helped apple sell a ton of product because a lot of people threw in the towel on windows and went with the much more reliable apple products. rightfully so I think. | 10:50 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, use #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat please. | 10:51 |
| FXpr0 | k. so back to the main question, what is the best way to combine this studio stuff and the security stuff? | 10:52 |
| FXpr0 | 2 boot partitions for linux and one for windows seems logical and easy enough | 10:52 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, your "security stuff" should be in the repositories. install from the ubuntu software center. Items not in repositories can be built from source. | 10:53 |
| FXpr0 | hmmm, big pain in the behind then so multiple boots is the easyest way to do it then. | 10:53 |
| FXpr0 | you know how it goes with distros. one is tweaked for this, the other is tweaked for that etc | 10:54 |
| FXpr0 | the av distros are useful for anything though and streamlined for performance which is the only way this computer is productive. | 10:54 |
| FXpr0 | this one is dfce? which I have not used until now. very nice performance wise. | 10:55 |
| FXpr0 | or xfce?? whatever its called. | 10:56 |
| FXpr0 | mint was buggy as hell and not so good on performance because its an eye candy distro. | 10:56 |
| cfhowlett | xfce4 is the default desktop environment in Ubuntustudio | 10:56 |
| FXpr0 | seems excellent so far. | 10:56 |
| FXpr0 | ok NOW!.... some reviews I was looking at about this studio version said this is just ubuntu with some packages added. true? of is it tweaked like kxstudio and avlinux is for media production? | 10:58 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, has a low-latency kernel for audio/video production where that matters | 10:59 |
| FXpr0 | exactly the big turn on here with these av distros. | 10:59 |
| FXpr0 | I want the music production stuff because well, I was a music major in college hehe | 11:00 |
| FXpr0 | nothing serious though as far as commercial production, just for fun projects and that | 11:00 |
| FXpr0 | if doing serious work in production, I would dedicate computers for just that of course | 11:01 |
| cfhowlett | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase#Ubuntustudio_16.04_Wallpaper_Contest | 11:01 |
| FXpr0 | hmmm very kewl! I already have an idea for a wallpaper! | 11:03 |
| FXpr0 | it involves the use of, well nevermind exactly, its a surprise! | 11:04 |
| FXpr0 | ;p | 11:04 |
| FXpr0 | it would be original at the very least. | 11:05 |
| FXpr0 | isnt that off topic cfhowlett?? | 11:05 |
| FXpr0 | ;p | 11:05 |
| FXpr0 | joking of course. | 11:05 |
| FXpr0 | ok so best idea is talk to the security distro people and find out their idea or if its a good idea to put this as an overlay onto it. | 11:07 |
| FXpr0 | or, a debian version like kxstudio | 11:07 |
| FXpr0 | wait, so even though ubuntu is a fork or based on debian, it wont work on debian | 11:08 |
| FXpr0 | hmmm, there seems to be a loooooooot of forking around in linuxville | 11:09 |
| FXpr0 | hehe | 11:09 |
| FXpr0 | it seems the main thing is easy of package installation as a major benefit to ubuntu via the virtual web store model which apple and microsoft are using. | 11:11 |
| FXpr0 | and actually performance on this studio distro seems slightly better than the debian distro I already installed. that I would assume is due to the media production bias along with xfce | 11:13 |
| FXpr0 | oh! why xchat over hexchat on the irc client? | 11:24 |
| cfhowlett | xchat is abandonware. hexchat is the replacement. | 11:25 |
| FXpr0 | I had to install hexchat. xchat is the default in this distro | 11:26 |
| FXpr0 | I am using it now actually. | 11:26 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, yes, we inherited that from the xubuntu upstream which still carries it for some reason. | 11:26 |
| FXpr0 | hmmm | 11:27 |
| FXpr0 | to me it makes all the sense to combine security, av production, and gaming into one. they all need performance as a foundation. maybe the security stuff not as much but the gaming and a/v stuff certainly. | 11:28 |
| FXpr0 | one thing that annoys me about parrot however is the constant password nag. to pick your nose or fart you gotta enter a password but that is the nature of security isnt it. unless the hack attacker has your password they can get past the nag so easy. | 11:30 |
| FXpr0 | I have nothing to hide or lose really but I am curious about it more than anything. | 11:30 |
| FXpr0 | well, the original content and ideas I constantly come up with I dont want the spynet to log and steal. | 11:32 |
| FXpr0 | steamos is another one I gonna try too. | 11:32 |
| cfhowlett | virtualbox is your friend ... though steam is resource-humgry | 11:33 |
| FXpr0 | hey ummm, when installed if I have 8gb of ram a swap file is not needed right? | 11:38 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, no ram = no suspend functionality | 11:39 |
| FXpr0 | because I want to do an image file of parrot and install this to see if it works better off the hd which it should. | 11:40 |
| FXpr0 | and is there a yumi like utility so I can split the partition up and just do multiple boots till I figure out which to use as the primary distro | 11:41 |
| FXpr0 | or how does that work. I guess I gonna need to do more homework on that. | 11:41 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, yumi is for usb sticks. multibooting a HDD is a bit different but doable. | 11:41 |
| FXpr0 | yeah a yumi like utility for the hd multi boot. thats a great idea I think if it does not already exist. | 11:42 |
| FXpr0 | whoever thought of the yumi idea, really slick one I think. | 11:42 |
| cfhowlett | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot | 11:43 |
| FXpr0 | what about quad boot? hehe | 11:43 |
| FXpr0 | (joke I know its the same thing) | 11:43 |
| cfhowlett | doable. it's all multibooting | 11:43 |
| FXpr0 | another very good thing and why ubuntu has taken off is the support behind it. seems there is a very large community in linuxville supporting it. | 11:44 |
| FXpr0 | ok so thanks for the help and your time. I gonna sleep on this and figure it out tomorrow. | 11:48 |
| cfhowlett | FXpr0, happy2help! | 11:48 |
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