[00:35] hello everybody [00:37] I have a question regarding WiFi network center in UbuntuStudio [00:37] can enybody help me? [10:19] it is it it or am I it? === it is now known as Guest48741 [10:24] anyone in here? [10:24] FXpr0, ask your questions [10:26] its possible to put another distro's stuff on this distro? [10:26] like, kxstudio for example. [10:26] FXpr0, possible. inadviseable. [10:26] ksxstudio has a wiki telling you how to do that [10:27] not a good idea however. [10:27] nope. [10:28] problem is mixing repositories usually breaks things in which case ... you must reinstall. [10:28] hmmm. I want to install this to hd but I already have a security debian distro installed. how difficult is it to add this one? [10:28] like just partition right? [10:28] FXpr0, never done it as ubuntustudio has everything I need. to add to debian, ask #debian [10:29] you mean as a dual/multi boot [10:29] ? [10:30] yeah. debian distro is already installed and so is windows 7 as a just in case. [10:31] FXpr0, check with #debian about multibooting [10:31] windows 7 on this particular craptop is a clunky laggy slow thing. I gotta say this distro and the debian distro performs so much better. [10:31] !debian > FXpr0 [10:31] FXpr0, please see my private message [10:32] this is a freebie compaq cq57-229wm chinamart laptop that was going to get a hammer taken to it by the original owner. I loaded 8gb of ram on it and it didnt really help with windows so I added linux and so far it is usable again. [10:33] good save! [10:33] haha [10:34] what about adding this in overlay or whatever its called onto the debian version already installed to get all the audio and video stuff? [10:34] http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio [10:34] FXpr0, debian is not ubuntu, ubuntu is not debian. ask #debian [10:34] as it it not supported here ... [10:35] ok but lets say I want to nuke the debian and put this on instead but I want the security stuff or something similar which is why I put that debian release on tobegin with [10:36] FXpr0, "this" meaning ...? [10:36] I want the best of both worlds essentially. security for internet stuff and av production for my own projects. [10:37] use ubuntustudio as the main linux os but add the security features [10:37] OR add a secuirty distro of ubuntu and put the audio stuff on it?? [10:37] FXpr0, what additional security do you think you need? [10:37] I really like this distro though so far. very nice work [10:38] like a tails anonymous pen testing penetration setup [10:38] but not on a usb on the hard drive [10:39] the debian distro is parrot security os which takes tails a step further with more flexibility [10:39] FXpr0, since you are already dualbooting, I suggest you continue to do so. put whatever you want as the primary OS, put your alternate either in a virtualbox or a different partition. [10:39] where as tails is strictly forced through tor parrot os gives the option to or not to. [10:40] is a 1ghz dual amd c50 virtualboxable? [10:40] probably will work but not very well [10:40] should be [10:42] I really would like parrot os as the base or this distro because it is ubuntu ready and add what I need basically fuse the 2 together so you have both feature sets [10:43] that way I dont have to hope back and forth from one distro to the other [10:44] no idea what parrot is, so can't advise. [10:44] its a security penetration distro for forensics, and all that security stuff [10:45] of course you know what tails is. like that but I think better as far as flexable etc... [10:46] another benefit is performance on both distros, parrot and this studio version of ubuntu is great compared to what the computer had one it which was windows 7 home that I upgraded to a modded version of ultimate. [10:47] I performance tweaked the crap out of 7 and it still lags like a dog. horrible. actually an embarrassment for microsoft. [10:48] but of course they like to do that to drive hardware sales. [10:49] unbelievable idea thief gates got away with it but he was there 2nd so, early bird gets the worm. [10:50] and likewise, his crap helped apple sell a ton of product because a lot of people threw in the towel on windows and went with the much more reliable apple products. rightfully so I think. [10:51] FXpr0, use #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat please. [10:52] k. so back to the main question, what is the best way to combine this studio stuff and the security stuff? [10:52] 2 boot partitions for linux and one for windows seems logical and easy enough [10:53] FXpr0, your "security stuff" should be in the repositories. install from the ubuntu software center. Items not in repositories can be built from source. [10:53] hmmm, big pain in the behind then so multiple boots is the easyest way to do it then. [10:54] you know how it goes with distros. one is tweaked for this, the other is tweaked for that etc [10:54] the av distros are useful for anything though and streamlined for performance which is the only way this computer is productive. [10:55] this one is dfce? which I have not used until now. very nice performance wise. [10:56] or xfce?? whatever its called. [10:56] mint was buggy as hell and not so good on performance because its an eye candy distro. [10:56] xfce4 is the default desktop environment in Ubuntustudio [10:56] seems excellent so far. [10:58] ok NOW!.... some reviews I was looking at about this studio version said this is just ubuntu with some packages added. true? of is it tweaked like kxstudio and avlinux is for media production? [10:59] FXpr0, has a low-latency kernel for audio/video production where that matters [10:59] exactly the big turn on here with these av distros. [11:00] I want the music production stuff because well, I was a music major in college hehe [11:00] nothing serious though as far as commercial production, just for fun projects and that [11:01] if doing serious work in production, I would dedicate computers for just that of course [11:01] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase#Ubuntustudio_16.04_Wallpaper_Contest [11:03] hmmm very kewl! I already have an idea for a wallpaper! [11:04] it involves the use of, well nevermind exactly, its a surprise! [11:04] ;p [11:05] it would be original at the very least. [11:05] isnt that off topic cfhowlett?? [11:05] ;p [11:05] joking of course. [11:07] ok so best idea is talk to the security distro people and find out their idea or if its a good idea to put this as an overlay onto it. [11:07] or, a debian version like kxstudio [11:08] wait, so even though ubuntu is a fork or based on debian, it wont work on debian [11:09] hmmm, there seems to be a loooooooot of forking around in linuxville [11:09] hehe [11:11] it seems the main thing is easy of package installation as a major benefit to ubuntu via the virtual web store model which apple and microsoft are using. [11:13] and actually performance on this studio distro seems slightly better than the debian distro I already installed. that I would assume is due to the media production bias along with xfce [11:24] oh! why xchat over hexchat on the irc client? [11:25] xchat is abandonware. hexchat is the replacement. [11:26] I had to install hexchat. xchat is the default in this distro [11:26] I am using it now actually. [11:26] FXpr0, yes, we inherited that from the xubuntu upstream which still carries it for some reason. [11:27] hmmm [11:28] to me it makes all the sense to combine security, av production, and gaming into one. they all need performance as a foundation. maybe the security stuff not as much but the gaming and a/v stuff certainly. [11:30] one thing that annoys me about parrot however is the constant password nag. to pick your nose or fart you gotta enter a password but that is the nature of security isnt it. unless the hack attacker has your password they can get past the nag so easy. [11:30] I have nothing to hide or lose really but I am curious about it more than anything. [11:32] well, the original content and ideas I constantly come up with I dont want the spynet to log and steal. [11:32] steamos is another one I gonna try too. [11:33] virtualbox is your friend ... though steam is resource-humgry [11:38] hey ummm, when installed if I have 8gb of ram a swap file is not needed right? [11:39] FXpr0, no ram = no suspend functionality [11:40] because I want to do an image file of parrot and install this to see if it works better off the hd which it should. [11:41] and is there a yumi like utility so I can split the partition up and just do multiple boots till I figure out which to use as the primary distro [11:41] or how does that work. I guess I gonna need to do more homework on that. [11:41] FXpr0, yumi is for usb sticks. multibooting a HDD is a bit different but doable. [11:42] yeah a yumi like utility for the hd multi boot. thats a great idea I think if it does not already exist. [11:42] whoever thought of the yumi idea, really slick one I think. [11:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot [11:43] what about quad boot? hehe [11:43] (joke I know its the same thing) [11:43] doable. it's all multibooting [11:44] another very good thing and why ubuntu has taken off is the support behind it. seems there is a very large community in linuxville supporting it. [11:48] ok so thanks for the help and your time. I gonna sleep on this and figure it out tomorrow. [11:48] FXpr0, happy2help!