[00:35] <user__> hello everybody
[00:37] <user__> I have a question regarding WiFi network center in UbuntuStudio
[00:37] <user__> can enybody help me?
[10:19] <it> it is it it or am I it?
[10:24] <FXpr0> anyone in here?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, ask your questions
[10:26] <FXpr0> its possible to put another distro's stuff on this distro?
[10:26] <FXpr0> like, kxstudio for example.
[10:26] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, possible.  inadviseable.
[10:26] <cfhowlett> ksxstudio has a wiki telling you how to do that
[10:27] <FXpr0> not a good idea however.
[10:27] <cfhowlett> nope.
[10:28] <cfhowlett> problem is mixing repositories usually breaks things in which case ... you must reinstall.
[10:28] <FXpr0> hmmm.  I want to install this to hd but I already have a security debian distro installed.  how difficult is it to add this one?
[10:28] <FXpr0> like just partition right?
[10:28] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, never done it as ubuntustudio has everything I need.   to add to debian, ask #debian
[10:29] <cfhowlett> you mean as a dual/multi boot
[10:29] <cfhowlett> ?
[10:30] <FXpr0> yeah.  debian distro is already installed and so is windows 7 as a just in case.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, check with #debian about multibooting
[10:31] <FXpr0> windows 7 on this particular craptop is a clunky laggy slow thing.  I gotta say this distro and the debian distro performs so much better.
[10:31] <cfhowlett> !debian > FXpr0
[10:32] <FXpr0> this is a freebie compaq cq57-229wm chinamart laptop that was going to get a hammer taken to it by the original owner.  I loaded 8gb of ram on it and it didnt really help with windows so I added linux and so far it is usable again.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> good save!
[10:33] <FXpr0> haha
[10:34] <FXpr0> what about adding this in overlay or whatever its called onto the debian version already installed to get all the audio and video stuff?
[10:34] <cfhowlett> http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio
[10:34] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, debian is not ubuntu, ubuntu is not debian.  ask #debian
[10:34] <cfhowlett> as it it not supported here ...
[10:35] <FXpr0> ok but lets say I want to nuke the debian and put this on instead but I want the security stuff or something similar which is why I put that debian release on tobegin with
[10:36] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, "this" meaning ...?
[10:36] <FXpr0> I want the best of both worlds essentially.  security for internet stuff and av production for my own projects.
[10:37] <FXpr0> use ubuntustudio as the main linux os but add the security features
[10:37] <FXpr0> OR add a secuirty distro of ubuntu and put the audio stuff on it??
[10:37] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, what additional security do you think you need?
[10:37] <FXpr0> I really like this distro though so far.  very nice work
[10:38] <FXpr0> like a tails anonymous pen testing penetration setup
[10:38] <FXpr0> but not on a usb on the hard drive
[10:39] <FXpr0> the debian distro is parrot security os which takes tails a step further with more flexibility
[10:39] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, since you are already dualbooting, I suggest you continue to do so.  put whatever you want as the primary OS, put your alternate either in a virtualbox or a different partition.
[10:39] <FXpr0> where as tails is strictly forced through tor parrot os gives the option to or not to.
[10:40] <FXpr0> is a 1ghz dual amd c50 virtualboxable?
[10:40] <FXpr0> probably will work but not very well
[10:40] <cfhowlett> should be
[10:42] <FXpr0> I really would like  parrot os as the base or this distro because it is ubuntu ready and add what I need basically fuse the 2 together so you have both feature sets
[10:43] <FXpr0> that way I dont have to hope back and forth from one distro to the other
[10:44] <cfhowlett> no idea what parrot is, so can't advise.
[10:44] <FXpr0> its a security penetration distro for forensics, and all that security stuff
[10:45] <FXpr0> of course you know what tails is.  like that but I think better as far as flexable etc...
[10:46] <FXpr0> another benefit is performance on both distros, parrot and this studio version of ubuntu is great compared to what the computer had one it which was windows 7 home that I upgraded to a modded version of ultimate.
[10:47] <FXpr0> I performance tweaked the crap out of 7 and it still lags like a dog.  horrible.  actually an embarrassment for microsoft.
[10:48] <FXpr0> but of course they like to do that to drive hardware sales.
[10:49] <FXpr0> unbelievable idea thief gates got away with it but he was there 2nd so, early bird gets the worm.
[10:50] <FXpr0> and likewise, his crap helped apple sell a ton of product because a lot of people threw in the towel on windows and went with the much more reliable apple products.  rightfully so I think.
[10:51] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, use #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat please.
[10:52] <FXpr0> k.  so back to the main question, what is the best way to combine this studio stuff and the security stuff?
[10:52] <FXpr0> 2 boot partitions for linux and one for windows seems logical and easy enough
[10:53] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, your "security stuff" should be in the repositories.  install from the ubuntu software center.  Items not in repositories can be  built from source.
[10:53] <FXpr0> hmmm, big pain in the behind then so multiple boots is the easyest way to do it then.
[10:54] <FXpr0> you know how it goes with distros.  one is tweaked for this, the other is tweaked for that etc
[10:54] <FXpr0> the av distros are useful for anything though and streamlined for performance which is the only way this computer is productive.
[10:55] <FXpr0> this one is dfce?  which I have not used until now.  very nice performance wise.
[10:56] <FXpr0> or xfce??  whatever its called.
[10:56] <FXpr0> mint was buggy as hell and not so good on performance because its an eye candy distro.
[10:56] <cfhowlett> xfce4 is the default desktop environment in Ubuntustudio
[10:56] <FXpr0> seems excellent so far.
[10:58] <FXpr0> ok NOW!.... some reviews I was looking at about this studio version said this is just ubuntu with some packages added.  true?  of is it tweaked like kxstudio and avlinux is for media production?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, has a low-latency kernel for audio/video production where that matters
[10:59] <FXpr0> exactly the big turn on here with these av distros.
[11:00] <FXpr0> I want the music production stuff because well, I was a music major in college hehe
[11:00] <FXpr0> nothing serious though as far as commercial production, just for fun projects and that
[11:01] <FXpr0> if doing serious work in production, I would dedicate computers for just that of course
[11:01] <cfhowlett> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/UserShowcase#Ubuntustudio_16.04_Wallpaper_Contest
[11:03] <FXpr0> hmmm very kewl!  I already have an idea for a wallpaper!
[11:04] <FXpr0> it involves the use of, well nevermind exactly, its a surprise!
[11:04] <FXpr0> ;p
[11:05] <FXpr0> it would be original at the very least.
[11:05] <FXpr0> isnt that off topic cfhowlett??
[11:05] <FXpr0> ;p
[11:05] <FXpr0> joking of course.
[11:07] <FXpr0> ok so best idea is talk to the security distro people and find out their idea or if its a good idea to put this as an overlay onto it.
[11:07] <FXpr0> or, a debian version like kxstudio
[11:08] <FXpr0> wait, so even though ubuntu is a fork or based on debian, it wont work on debian
[11:09] <FXpr0> hmmm, there seems to be a loooooooot of forking around in linuxville
[11:09] <FXpr0> hehe
[11:11] <FXpr0> it seems the main thing is easy of package installation as a major benefit to ubuntu via the virtual web store model which apple and microsoft are using.
[11:13] <FXpr0> and actually performance on this studio distro seems slightly better than the debian distro I already installed.  that I would assume is due to the media production bias along with xfce
[11:24] <FXpr0> oh!  why xchat over hexchat on the irc client?
[11:25] <cfhowlett> xchat is abandonware.  hexchat is the replacement.
[11:26] <FXpr0> I had to install hexchat.  xchat is the default in this distro
[11:26] <FXpr0> I am using it now actually.
[11:26] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, yes, we inherited that from the xubuntu upstream which still carries it for some reason.
[11:27] <FXpr0> hmmm
[11:28] <FXpr0> to me it makes all the sense to combine security, av production, and gaming into one.  they all need performance as a foundation.  maybe the security stuff not as much but the gaming and a/v stuff certainly.
[11:30] <FXpr0> one thing that annoys me about parrot however is the constant password nag.  to pick your nose or fart you gotta enter a password but that is the nature of security isnt it.  unless the hack attacker has your password they can get past the nag so easy.
[11:30] <FXpr0> I have nothing to hide or lose really but I am curious about it more than anything.
[11:32] <FXpr0> well, the original content and ideas I constantly come up with I dont want the spynet to log and steal.
[11:32] <FXpr0> steamos is another one I gonna try too.
[11:33] <cfhowlett> virtualbox is your friend ... though steam is resource-humgry
[11:38] <FXpr0> hey ummm, when installed if I have 8gb of ram a swap file is not needed right?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, no ram = no suspend functionality
[11:40] <FXpr0> because I want to do an image file of parrot and install this to see if it works better off the hd which it should.
[11:41] <FXpr0> and is there a yumi like utility so I can split the partition up and just do multiple boots till I figure out which to use as the primary distro
[11:41] <FXpr0> or how does that work.  I guess I gonna need to do more homework on that.
[11:41] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, yumi is for usb sticks.  multibooting a HDD is a bit different but doable.
[11:42] <FXpr0> yeah a yumi like utility for the hd multi boot.  thats a great idea I think if it does not already exist.
[11:42] <FXpr0> whoever thought of the yumi idea, really slick one I think.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot
[11:43] <FXpr0> what about quad boot?  hehe
[11:43] <FXpr0> (joke I know its the same thing)
[11:43] <cfhowlett> doable.  it's all multibooting
[11:44] <FXpr0> another very good thing and why ubuntu has taken off is the support behind it.  seems there is a very large community in linuxville supporting it.
[11:48] <FXpr0> ok so thanks for the help and your time.  I gonna sleep on this and figure it out tomorrow.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> FXpr0, happy2help!