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didrocksgood morning!05:47
hikikohello :)05:48
hikikohi didrocks05:48
hikikoit's snowing here! :)  (finally we have winter!!)05:49
didrockshey hikiko! we had some snowing here, but nothing which remains on ground :)05:55
hikikoyeah we had that too but today we have real snow (on the ground) for the 1st time this winter :)05:59
* flocculant had normal snow for southern england - melted in the sky before it landed07:16
Mirvhikiko: great! we had to wait for a long time but finally during the last two weeks it's been a real winter too :)07:26
pittiGood morning07:26
hikiko:D07:28
hikikogood morning Mirv pitti flocculant :)07:28
hikikolol @normal southern england snow :p07:29
flocculant:)07:29
larsuhappy Monday!08:03
larsuand good morning :)08:04
didrockshappy Monday larsu!08:08
larsubonjour didrocks! Thanks, you too!08:08
seb128good morning desktopers08:11
TrevinhoMorning!08:35
didrocksgood morning Trevinho!08:35
pittihey larsu and Trevinho !08:36
pittibonjour didrocks et seb128, comment allez-vous ?08:36
seb128hey Trevinho pitti!08:37
seb128bien, et toi ?08:37
larsuguten morgen pitti!08:37
pittiseb128: bien aussi; j'ai travaillé beaucoup ce week-end pour préparer le "virtual sprint" cette semaine08:37
seb128oh :-(08:37
didrockshey pitti! really well, and you ?08:37
pittimais on a beacoup de neige ! \o/08:37
seb128le w.e c'est fait pour se reposer !08:38
pittiseb128: c'était d'accord, pas de problème :)08:38
TrevinhoHi pitti didrocks and seb128 :-)08:38
pittienfin l'hiver est arrivé08:38
TrevinhoOui... Here as well08:39
Trevinho-4.6° right now...08:40
pittivendredi nous avons vu le film "The Revenant", j'ai l'aimé ! le connaisez-vous ?08:40
pittididrocks: did you already add a workaround for the chown issue? I just realized that this chown is almost surely not from your tests, but from adt-run itself08:43
didrockspitti: no, I didn't add anything08:43
pittididrocks: and as it fails on that, it never actually gets to the point where it starts the tee for -stdout, and thus wets its pants like that08:43
pittididrocks: so, don't for now08:43
didrockspitti: no worry, keep me posted!08:44
pittididrocks: do you have "rw-build-tree" in your Restrictions:?08:53
didrockspitti: yeah08:55
pittididrocks: ah, so that's where the chmod comes from08:55
pittierr, chown08:55
pittididrocks: ok, so I know what's going on -- this runs as user (as the test doesn't have needs-root), so it can't work08:56
pittididrocks: I'll write a small test for that and fix08:56
pittididrocks: rw-build-tree is very rare, so not tested well :(08:57
* didrocks feels rate in essence :)08:58
willcookemorning all08:58
pittididrocks: bug 153523408:59
ubot5bug 1535234 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "chown fails on root-owned files with "rw-build-tree"" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/153523408:59
pittididrocks: "rate in essence"?09:00
didrocksrare*09:01
didrocksthanks pitti!09:01
didrockshey willcooke09:01
LaneyHI!09:01
didrocksmorning Laney09:01
willcookedidrocks, when are you leaving for the airport?  today?09:02
didrockswillcooke: tomorrow (leaving from home at 5am)09:02
willcookedidrocks, oooof09:02
didrocksyeah, will be challenging ;)09:03
larsumorning Laney, willcooke!09:03
seb128hey willcooke09:03
willcookehey larsu, larsu09:03
seb128hey Laney09:03
willcookeLaney,09:03
larsudouble-hey for me!09:04
willcookemorning seb128, are you up early tomorrow as well?09:04
willcookelarsu, :D09:04
pittididrocks: oh, où vas-tu ?09:04
didrockspitti: UbuCon (LA)09:04
seb128willcooke, tomorrow? less than didrocks, likely around 6:3009:04
seb128still early though09:04
didrocksseb128: and you arrive before me! :p09:04
pittididrocks: ah, bon vol !09:04
seb128direct flight \o/09:04
didrockspitti: merci :)09:05
seb128and airport 40 min train away09:05
pittiseb128: from Amsterdam?09:05
seb128yes09:05
Laneyhey didrocks larsu seb128 willcooke109:05
Laneyhow's it going?09:05
didrocksLaney: good! putting some $$$ in my wallet!09:05
seb128Laney, good! had a relaxing w.e!09:05
larsuLaney: good thanks! Had a nice snowy weekend. How about you?09:06
seb128and very nice weather09:06
seb128sunny09:06
* Laney is good09:06
Laneywe went out to watch a friend do a touring performance in some nearby pubs09:06
seb128no tennis though, I was still not 100% back from being sick this week and didn't want to risk having it again before travelling09:06
Laneythe last one turned out to be in a singing club09:06
seb128video or it didn't happen! :p09:07
Laneywhich was unexpected but turned out to be funny09:07
pittimorning Laney!09:07
LaneyTHEN on saturday we went to a cat place09:07
seb128NICE!09:07
Laneyand the man wouldn't let us in and said they had no cats09:07
seb128?!09:07
Laneybut we checked on facebook later09:07
Laneyand they were posting about new cats09:07
Laneyso...09:07
Laneythat was weird09:07
seb128are you sure you had the right address?09:08
Laneyyeah it had a sign09:08
Laneyseemed to be run out of someone's house09:08
seb128somebody who was not from the place played a joke on you?09:08
seb128well, bad luck09:09
Laneymaybe09:09
Laneyi'll try a more professional place09:09
seb128yeah, don't give up :-)09:09
seb128maaoooww09:09
Laneyor the cat cafe does rehoming and my mum wants to go when she visits for my birthday on saturday09:09
Laneyso i can ask them then09:09
davmor2Laney, seb128, willcooke: are any of you having network manager not come up at any time?09:19
seb128never happened to me09:20
willcookedavmor2, negative09:21
davmor2Booted up this morning and no wifi the icon was there showing that ethernet was connected which is interesting as I'm on the xps 13 with no ethernet :)09:21
davmor2I'll do some testing on it later and see if I can reproduce09:22
seb128so the icon was there09:22
seb128which is different from "not coming up"09:22
seb128wifi missing happens sometime after suspend/resume here09:22
davmor2seb128: Yeah sorry not specific enough09:23
seb128which I think is more a kernel issue09:23
davmor2seb128: yeah I wasn't sure if it was nm being flakey or the kernel or if it was just this machine hence asking if anyone else had seen it first09:25
Laneydavmor2: I have had some problem09:37
Laneywith it getting confused with an interface which lxc creates09:37
Laneybut actually I didn't have that for a few weeks so maybe it got fixed09:37
Laneyit used to think that was a connected wired interface09:37
Laneyand so not automatically connect the wifi09:37
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seb128when I get the issue the menu list no APs09:43
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/network-manager/+bug/1445134 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/142209609:47
ubot5Launchpad bug 1445134 in network-manager (Ubuntu Vivid) "Network manager never scanning for new access points" [High,Confirmed]09:47
ubot5Launchpad bug 1422096 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Occasionally no network on resume" [Undecided,New]09:47
LaneyTrevinho: Trevinho Trevinho Trevinho Trevinho10:02
LaneytrevinhooooooOOOOoooOOOoooOOOooOOOOooOOOooOOOooooo10:03
larsuLaney: looking for someone?10:14
seb128some italian?10:15
Laneythe last form of that name feels good to say10:16
Laneymight just start shouting it whenever something surprising happens10:16
Laneytry it10:16
Laneyyou need some big arm gestures too10:16
* larsu just did that aloud10:20
larsufeel funny now10:20
* seb128 ponders taking a flight seat in the middle after the kitchen (= no seat in front) an outside view one10:24
seb128I though the row after the kitchen would have more leg room as well but seatguru suggests it might have less...10:25
ogra_wow, you are early with your checkin :)10:25
Laneypay for the business upgrade10:25
seb128I got an email with a clicky thing :p10:25
seb128they didn't propose me that one10:25
seb128they suggest eco comfort for 90€ though10:25
seb128unsure if that's worth it10:25
ogra_10cm legspace :P10:25
Laneyis that economy plus?10:26
ogra_united ?10:26
seb128klm10:26
ogra_ah, havent flown them since 10 years :)10:27
Laneygotta be loyal to your country10:28
seb128lol10:28
ogra_Laney, "north"-france you mean ?10:29
seb128I took the "next to the kitchen"10:29
seb128let's see how that goes10:29
ogra_at least you wont starve :)10:30
Laneytake earplugs and an eye mask if you want to sleep10:30
seb128I don't think I want to sleep this way10:30
seb128maybe just nap for an hour10:30
seb128goal is to stay awake and crash down at 10pm or something10:30
pittiseb128: don't say "crash" if it involves plane rides!10:30
seb128ups10:31
seb128anyway no full night this way10:31
seb128so I prefer having some laptop space10:31
seb128though I might end up watching movies10:31
willcookedrink all the gin10:31
seb128haha10:31
seb128'all the gin' they serve for free is probably not much though10:33
willcookehah10:33
Laney"just leave the bottle"10:34
seb128you brits ;-)10:35
willcookeI'll fight you!10:36
* Laney actually doesn't really like gin10:36
* seb128 neither10:37
* willcooke puts laney and seb128 on The List10:38
seb128:-(10:38
Laneyshould be happy10:38
Laneymore gin for you10:38
willcookeha10:38
Laneylarsu: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=760683#c8 go tell smcv that he can do it :P10:44
ubot5Gnome bug 760683 in gregex "regex test: Check the expected PCRE exceptions at runtime" [Normal,New]10:44
larsuLaney: I don't feel comfortable acking that, either... sorry10:45
larsuLaney: who maintains that part of glib?10:45
Laneyno idea, everyone's changed it10:48
Laneywas hoping for someone to tell him that it's okay to say okay10:48
LaneyMOVE FAST AND BREAK THINGS10:48
* Laney is agile10:48
larsuI'm definitely not that person10:48
larsubut mclasen should be on in a bit, he'll ack it10:49
Laneyhopefully before the release10:49
larsuping him10:49
Laneywill do if I notice10:52
Laneyweird people who quit irc10:52
larsuLaney: like seb128? *cough*10:56
Laneyweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeird10:56
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Laneythere's a mobile tree shredding machine going to town out the front12:08
Laneyexciting12:08
willcookeChuck the Christmas tree in12:11
Laneyshould do12:11
Laneythe half is still there12:11
Laneytempted to fly tip it at the council building12:12
willcooke:D12:12
TrevinhoLaney: oh sorry... I was washing stuff and packing.12:13
Laneyhi Trevinho12:15
LaneyI wanted to ask you about the webkit scrollbar stuff12:15
* Laney forgot everything12:15
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* xnox really should take down my christmas tree12:27
TrevinhoLaney: well I didn't do anything on that yet...12:28
LaneyTrevinho: I'm trying to get rid of old webkit12:29
Laneythis an obvious bug with wk212:29
Laneycan you work on it or no time?12:29
TrevinhoLaney: not much time, but... I might look at it.12:38
LaneyTrevinho: well it's going to be visible in the software-center, control-center, release upgrader, shotwell12:47
TrevinhoLooks like it needs some love...12:50
Laneyyes, that's why I'm talking to you12:52
desrtgood morning, partners in crime13:51
seb128hey desrt!13:53
desrthello seb13:55
desrtgood weekend?13:55
seb128yes! relaxing, we have cold and sunny weather, which was a nice change from the mild&wet13:58
seb128what about you?13:58
didrocksgood morning desrt13:59
desrtwas okay... went to hamilton for a day to catch a hockey game.  over too fast :)13:59
desrthello didrocks.  glad to see you're still doing the good-morning protocol ;)13:59
Laneywhat up desrt13:59
didrocksdesrt: hehe, I will stay around anyway :p13:59
didrockssnow \o/14:00
desrtLaney: playing with my yubikey14:00
desrti think i have the 'ultimate gpg setup' situation now, with only one small problem remaining14:00
desrtthe small problem: can't figure out how to turn off the led on the yubikey when it's idle :)14:01
Laneyusing it as smartcard?14:02
desrtya14:02
Laneyneat14:03
desrtwith three separate subkeys for encrypt/sign/authenticate14:03
desrtthe master key was generated on a machine that has never touched the internet (and never will) and stored on an sdcard in a safety deposit box14:03
desrti also used that machine to program the yubikey14:03
desrtsome extra coolness: i have to physically touch the yubikey before it will perform a sign/encrypt/auth operation14:04
desrtand also: it is now functioning as my ssh-agent... so i also have to touch it in order to ssh somewhere now14:05
desrtthat's sort of always what i wanted... an out-of-band "yes, i allow this" step for ssh-agent... makes me feel better about using agent forwarding, for example14:06
willcookeneat!14:16
davmor2willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/14.04.4-daily.png15:26
davmor2willcooke: http://people.canonical.com/~davmor2/desktop-screenshots/16.04-daily.png15:30
davmor2willcooke: both amd64 against a secureboot kvm setup :)15:30
willcookeNice, thanks davmor215:30
willcookeassuming I'm looking at a working system and not a bug ;)15:30
davmor2willcooke: live desktop at least :)15:31
willcooke\o/15:31
davmor2willcooke: Talking of which I still need to run it on real hardware to test for a thing that I saw popup for the first time on 16.04 if you enable the 3rd party drivers it asks for a password to disable secureboot15:34
davmor2I wanta ensure that works on real hardware15:35
* didrocks waves good evening and good night17:15
willcookesee didrocks17:16
didrockssee you willcooke :)17:16
seb128didrocks, safe travel!17:16
didrocksthanks, you too seb12817:16
alexarnaudHi everyone !17:29
alexarnaudhikiko: hi !17:30
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george4nanyone here?19:12
robert_ancellattente, hi19:50
attenterobert_ancell: hey19:50
robert_ancellattente, was wondering if you had a look at GNOME Software stuff. It's probably easier now to find some good tasks to work on.19:51
willcookemorning robert_ancell19:51
robert_ancellwillcooke, hi, can meeting whenever you are ready19:51
willcookerobert_ancell, if now works lets do it19:52
attenterobert_ancell: yeah... really sorry i haven't had a chance, and this week isn't a good one for me (at a sprint)19:52
robert_ancellattente, ok cool. Let's do a hangout when you are ready and I can run you through the options19:53
attentesure19:53
willcookegnith all20:38
willcookegnight20:38

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