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ari-tczewI was looking on the bug 1395999 and there is such requested version in Debian, ready to sync. however, it fails to build on xenial: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/234550380/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kraft_0.59-1~ppa01_BUILDING.txt.gz01:34
ubottubug 1395999 in kraft (Ubuntu) "Plase update the Kraft Version to 0.59 (Released 2015-09-26)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139599901:34
ari-tczewaccording to discuss on #ubuntu-devel, it might be related problem to outdated kde4libs01:35
ari-tczewhow about your schedule to upgrade that package?01:36
ari-tczewany investigate is welcome01:36
mparilloIs there a trello card to update the flow in https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu.27s_PPA_Repositories01:44
claydohmparillo: not just the flow but the errors, such as 02:26
claydoh"Wily users would be able to try out upgrading Kubuntu Wily's Plasma from 4.3.x to 4.5.0 without having to wait for Xenial's release."02:26
claydoh4.3? oopsie02:28
stravhi02:45
stravSeems to be an issue with VLC and the latest backports update to plasma 5.5.302:45
strav(when in fullscreen, part of the video is cropped, osd is missing and so is the mouse cursor)02:46
stravalso it seems there is a conflict the libmuon and muon itself on the backports02:47
stravjust installed dragonplayer through apt-get, seems the open file menu is broken...02:50
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soeeyofel: to solve the kate problem, you have added 15.12.1 version to landibng backports right ?07:10
soeegood morning :)07:10
nicolsmorning!07:13
soeehiho nicols07:18
valoriehi nicols -- to answer your question about becoming a kubuntu developer: I'm glad you are thinking about it07:19
valoriestep one is to seek kubuntu membership07:19
valoriethat would require some months of work IMO07:20
valorie!membership07:20
ubottuUbuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community.  For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember07:20
valoriewe've got a Kubuntu version too07:20
valoriebecause you can seek Kubuntu Membership, which gives you Ubuntu membership as well07:21
valorienicols: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Membership07:21
nicolsvalorie: i did some readings ... but it is confusing :) .... somewhere it says i must be a kubuntu member to join launchpad teams... and in https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging that i need to join 3 launchpad teams to be of any help in kubuntu-packaging :)07:31
valorieyou need to sign the code of conduct for most teams07:31
valorieonly a few require membership07:32
nicolsvalorie: so, i guess i start with something else, before i can help with packaging? :)07:32
valoriemembers get PPAs for instance07:32
valoriepackaging can be done by anyone07:32
valorieyou just can't do the uploading07:32
nicolsvalorie: i have signed ubuntu code of conduct07:32
valoriegreat!07:32
valorieanyone can package07:33
valoriebut you asked about Kubuntu Developer, which requires membership first07:33
nicolsvalorie: https://launchpad.net/~nbelavic ... i have set gpg and ssh keys07:33
valoriethat is a lot of responsibility07:33
valorievery cool07:33
nicolsyes, i see now it is not the same ... ok, i home i'll earn that mambership with time07:34
nicolshome=hope07:34
valorieyou will, if you keep helping us out07:34
soeenicols: when it comes to packaging best to het help from yofel, sgclark or clivejo. Also ovidiu-florin is startign with it so might be helpful07:35
valorieand as i said, anyone can package -- you just won't be able to upload the changes yourself; someone else checks it out and uploads it for you07:35
nicolsbackports-landing is not needed any more for 5.5.3 in wily, it is all in backports now? shall i remove landing ppa?07:35
valoriein fact, there is stuff that all of us here need help with07:35
valorieI removed it as soon as I did the upgrade07:36
soeenicols: there tasn't been announcement taht 5.5.3 is in backports 07:36
valoriebackports move will happen soon07:36
soeevalorie: yesterday yofel put some new files ot landing  - kate07:36
soeetaht fixes loading it on startup bug i think - he added 15.12.1 version07:37
valorieonce yofel and scarlett determine that all the t's are crossed and i's are dotted07:37
valoriesoee: I'll get it when it hits backports07:37
soeesure :)07:37
nicolsi didn't have much time yesterday afternoon, but i managaed to do some reading about bazaar and stuff... i am following this guide: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/ first 07:39
valoriecool07:39
nicolsi tried to patch qwidgets for that error in qt with vlc ... but no luck. patch that was posted on qt-project.org is for 5.6 branch07:41
valorieI think that gets fixed with the debian merges, but there was some difficulty with it07:42
valorieyou'll have to wait for yofel about that07:42
nicolssoee: yes, i can confirm that kate is ok now, i tested it yesterday07:43
valoriebecause I don't think we package vlc07:43
valorieor qt (except in a ppa)07:43
nicolsbug is in qtbase: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/139066/107:44
valorieyeah, I saw that in #kde-devel07:44
nicolsi found one page that is sooooo outdated: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meeting ... :)07:45
nicolsprobably not important for wider audienece :)07:46
soeeyofel: [08:40] <dunasdan> I have kubuntu-ppa/backports in my wily. I updated today. plasma 5.5.3 was in it. Afterwards sddm only showed a blank screen. In the logs was "sdd-helper exited with 6" and there was a message about Qt Platform not finding xcb in the log. But sadly I no longer have the log, (Since i did a ppa-purge and reboot afterwards)07:51
soee[08:50] <dunasdan> But my /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession prompted a diff. I don't think i have cahnged it manually by myself but I have zsh installed. The following was the diff07:52
soee[08:51] <dunasdan> http://pastebin.com/qW0R6EME07:52
nicolssoee: i remember i had a diff when i installed 5.5.3 from landing ... let me search for it....07:57
lordievaderGood morning.07:57
nicolssoee: here it is http://pastebin.com/gAUiwRfL ... i have accepted new version, everything was ok after that07:59
valorienicols: it's a wiki07:59
valoriefix it07:59
nicolsvalorie: i can do that, but i cannot find when is the next meeting?  i found this: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars .... but i don't know is it a good place to look at? :)08:13
valorienicols: IMO too early to schedule a meeting 08:19
valoriebut when you want one, you schedule one08:19
valorieand usually we do them here in the chan08:20
bdcompHi! I just updated my Kubuntu 15.10 64bit via the Kubuntu Backports PPA to 5.5.3 (old xsessions file choosen) and now after restart, the screen is full with horisontal lines. Everything seems to work expect the graphic artifact. Should I open a bug? Where?08:23
valorieyou might try dpkg configure -a08:23
valorieand next time, choose the new file08:23
soeebdcomp: what if you remove caches: rm -rf ~/.cache08:26
bdcompI am not sure how to execute anything, as I am just guissing what is going on the screen... I can hit Alt+F2? Now I am working from some live-cd...08:27
soeeyofel: [09:27] <Smurphy> soee: http://pastebin.com/DRNLMqSf that ...08:29
valoriebdcomp: please let's take this to #kubuntu, where support happens08:33
bdcompvalorie: As this happened after an update, I though it's related here08:34
nicolsvalorie: shall i write something like "there is no meeting planned at the moment" and blank the "agenda" section?08:36
valorienicols: more like "Fill in when scheduling a meeting"08:38
valoriethat page gets reused, over and over08:39
valorielook in the history to see the past08:39
bdcompvalorie: soee: I am now rebooting to try the suggestions. Thanks!08:41
valoriegreat!08:41
nicolsvalorie: is it ok now: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Meeting ? :) ... i also repaired link for fridge calendars, it was broken08:55
valorienicols: something seems missing, I'll think for awhile about it08:57
valoriethanks for your work08:57
valorieI see that Claus put himself on the list but never called a meeting08:57
valorieSanta called a meeting but didn't put himself on the page08:58
valorieand we never had it08:58
valoriesheesh08:58
nicolsgreat :)08:58
nicolsi didn't remove Claus, i think hi is not a member, so his candidature is still valid? :)08:59
nicolshi=he08:59
valorieyes09:00
valoriewe never had a meeting to vote on his membership09:00
valoriewhen you think you have had a "significant and sustained contribution to Kubuntu and the Kubuntu community" please write to the list with a Doodle poll09:02
valorieand once a date is decided on, write again with the link to the filled-in page09:02
valorieand a link to your wiki page09:02
valorieetc.09:02
kais3nHello, what is the best way to report bugs from 16.04 kubuntu testing?09:08
Yossarianukcheers for 5.5 backports!09:08
soeekais3n: what kind of bug ?09:09
soeeYossarianuk: works fine ?09:09
valoriekais3n: `ubuntu-bug packagename`09:13
valoriein the cli09:13
yofelsoee: yes, kate 15.12.1 got backported for that09:14
yofelsoee: that sddm bug report doesn't tell much :/09:14
yofelsoee: the last paste would probably be fixed with a qtcurve rebuild..09:14
kais3nFor example : I upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 and now my keyboard layout didn't fit on logon screen.09:14
yofelnicols: you don't need to be a kubuntu member for packaging, it's just that membership gives you access to most things.09:16
kais3nOther example: The login process takes quite a while ~20-30sec without any progress. Seems it wait for something and get a timeout.09:16
yofelnicols: at the beginning, just send patches for stuff or push your git changes somewhere else that we can pull them from.09:16
yofelnicols: We can then add you to individual teams after a short while09:17
vipmoin09:18
soeekais3n: we had bug with long longing time but i thought it has been fixed09:19
soeebut when plasma loads first time after upgrade it might take some time09:19
Yossarianuksoee: not tried yet - going to soon though - I hear deleting plasma cache is something you should do...09:20
yofelthere are plenty of potential causes for long login time. So unless you find out what causes a timeout we can't do much :/09:21
kais3nI just need a hint where to start search.09:21
soeecheck id syou have some processes that blocks it (are loade don startup)09:22
valorie!info bootchart09:22
ubottubootchart (source: bootchart): boot sequence auditing. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.90.2-8ubuntu2 (wily), package size 10 kB, installed size 96 kB09:22
soeedo you start fresh session each time or restore previous one ?09:23
valoriepfff09:23
yofelhm, libqt5gui5 recommends libqt5xcbqpa509:46
yofelmeh, I guess a hard dep on that is in order...09:48
valoriegood lord what a packagename09:51
soeestill not my fav :D09:53
soeemy nr one: libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 :D09:55
valoriesitter must have named that one09:59
valorielol09:59
soeeyofel: no announcement on website (5.5.3 Wily)?10:12
valorieanybody have some text ready?10:14
yofelIt would be a slightly modifed version of the previous post. I can do that in a bit10:15
valorieawesome10:15
* valorie toddles off to bed10:15
valoriethank you so much for all your work, yofel and scarlett and all the packagers!10:16
mikklesweet, it works10:25
mikklelooks really nice....icon changes, theme changes, font changes10:25
mikkledecoration looks different too10:25
mikkleoh wait, I'm getting horizontal bars on my task manager items10:26
Odurmikkle: I cleared .cache and .kde and all those artifacts disappeard. Maybe just .kde will do10:27
mikkleOdur, do you mean you deleted ~/.kde?10:28
Odurmikkle: Yes. Maybe you should just move it. "mv .kde .kde.bak" just in case10:28
mikkleoddly it only happens with breeze and not breeze dakr10:29
OdurNot sure which of ~/.cache and ~/.kde that did the trick, I did both at once :)10:30
Odurmikkle: You probably hadn't used Breeze dark before?10:30
mikkleI'll try .cache first10:30
mikkleNo, I had10:30
mikkleI jsut changed back to Breeze actually10:30
mikkleI had...10:31
OdurOh, then I have no idea10:31
mikkleI'll try .cache...you can do this logged in?10:31
Oduryou have to log out and in again10:31
mikkleright, but you can be logged in, delete it, log out and back in?10:31
OdurNot sure. I did it logged out10:32
mikklemaybe i'll kquitpapp plasmashell10:32
mikkleah, ok10:32
mikklelet me try that10:32
mikklecheers10:32
mparilloclivejo: Fixed. My guess: Somebody changed Vivid to Wily without looking at the Plasma versions. Now about the graphic in https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu.27s_PPA_Repositories Do we want minor changes, or do we want to replace it with https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1SoO83PepBkU_kkbLL2eIeVDYYDzv6OEA1npVoCp7wHo/edit?pref=2&pli=110:33
clivejomparillo: fixed what?10:34
mparilloWhoops bad autocomplete: [05:16] <claydoh> mparillo: not just the flow but the errors, such as 10:35
clivejoah10:35
clivejothought I was missing something in my playback!10:36
mparilloBut to better answer your question: [05:16] <claydoh> "Wily users would be able to try out upgrading Kubuntu Wily's Plasma from 4.3.x to 4.5.0 without having to wait for Xenial's release."10:36
clivejoworkflow is to release to xenial first, then backport to wily10:37
yofelmparillo: the graphic should *just* show the ppa flow as it does right now - just the correct one10:37
yofelbut no need for casual uses to know about CI and whatever10:38
yofelas that's not the point of the page10:38
yofelwell, if you want to have "release to xenial" in the graph, you could make a "development archive" node or so10:39
mikkleok, so clearing .cache worked :)10:46
soeemeh, yofel you might want to mention in teh announcement that users hsoudl flush .cache after upgrade to 5.5.311:20
yofeltrue, did someone file an upstream bug about that?11:22
yofelmaybe there should be a kconf-update script or so that removes all *relevant* caches after a major update11:22
clivejowhat should be flushed?11:28
yossarianukupdate to plasma 5.5.x via backports seems ok 11:33
yossarianukI lost the ability to resize widgets until I  - rm -rf ~/.kde ~/.conf ~/.cache ,etc11:34
fryfuryhi. How remove ppa backports landing and switch to backports?11:34
clivejoyofel: have you decided what to do regarding apps 15.12.0?  seems a lot of other distro are holding back the PIM packages and releasing the rest?11:34
yossarianukalso all fonts have changed to 'Noto Sans' etc is that normal ?11:35
soeefryfury: sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports-landing11:35
soeeyossarianuk: yes11:35
fryfurythx, simple :D11:35
yofelclivejo: no. I'm thinking of doing the abi manager stuff anyway so we get somewhat reasonable upgrades. But I'll think more about it once I actually get to pim11:37
clivejofeeling a bit useless at the moment, let me know if there is anything I can help with, within my "skill set"11:38
yofelhm, you could try to do a merge of something small. Just do a "git merge origin/master" in the xenial branch, resolve conflicts, add "Merge with debian git master" to changelog, change version to 15.12.1 and push11:40
yofelI can then review that and tell you what you did wrong11:40
clivejoyofel: oh you have staged 15.12.111:40
yofelor just push to a branch on LP11:40
yofelI didn't "stage" it, I'm just doing everything by hand11:40
yofelwe need to touch every single package for the merges anyway11:41
clivejoah11:41
clivejowas wondering how its in alphabetical order almost11:41
yofelit's the order that's on the trello card11:42
yofelexcept if I had to touch a package anyway to fix something right now11:42
clivejoso you are merging, fixing and uploading all manually?11:45
yofelyes11:46
yofelit's not like you can automate the merging. Lost of packages with conflicts and you need to review all merges11:46
BluesKajHey folks12:15
soeehiho BluesKaj12:17
BluesKajHi soee12:26
soee!package fcitx12:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about package fcitx12:28
yossarianuk5.5.x seems snappier! Cheers people !13:01
fryfurycool :D13:02
BluesKaj!enter13:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about enter13:42
BluesKaj!return13:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about return13:42
BluesKajhmm13:42
yofelmitya57: not sure if you got my question a couple days ago, but do you know if there's a good way to set qml deps for a package? To prevent stuff like http://i.imgur.com/NkSXcyt.png13:45
mitya57I didn't get your question, sorry13:46
mitya57And I don't know any way, but since our package names are based on import names, it's possible to write a script that scans all imports and generates the dependencies accordingly.13:47
yofelthat's not on your todo list by any chance? ;)13:47
yofelbut thanks anyway. The package names are easy to find indeed13:48
mitya57yofel, that's not in my list yet, can you file a bug against pkg-kde-tools (x-debbugs-ccing me)?13:51
yofelmitya57: will do13:52
kfunk[kdevelop(21474)/(default) unknown(0): couldn't create slave: "Unable to create io-slave:\nklauncher said: Error loading '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/kf5/kio/file.so'.\n"14:01
kfunkare there known issues with KIO plugins in Kubuntu backports PPA?14:01
kfunkoh, wait, nvm.14:02
kfunkhm, I have a messed up Breeze desktop theme. aka the task list & panel have a super weird look (dark bg, colorful theme for non-minimized apps)14:35
kfunk(Plasma 5.5.3 on Kubuntu backports PPA)14:35
soeemaybe you are using dark theme :D14:35
soeeyofel: can it be result of sddm problems or new plasma http://pasteboard.co/UtIIj1U.jpg ?14:37
yofelmy first guess when seeing that would be a driver bug, but could be that some new feature is triggering it or so14:39
yofeland martin isn't around :/14:39
kfunksoee: nope, I don't. trust me, I just cycled through every possible theme I can select. standard breeze theme is "broken", for whatever reason.14:44
kfunkbut I also do have other weird rendering artifacts atm. not sure what's going on14:44
kfunkkrunner widget showing me random colors in its background, for instance14:44
soeecache issue ?14:45
imincikHi Kubuntu devs, what versions of KDE Plasma, Frameworks and Apps we can expect in final 16.04 release ?14:51
soeeimincik: hi, probably Plasma 5.6 (if we can make it there before freeze), Frameworks - hard to say 5.19 or 5.20, apps 15.12.x probably (i'm not usre when 16.04 are released)14:53
iminciksoee: thank you very much for this information and also for your work14:54
BluesKajApril 21st official release date for 16.0414:55
soeedo not thank me :) i'm jus annoying tester :D14:55
soeeBluesKaj: but Applications 16.04 14:55
soeeany idea when they should be released ?14:56
BluesKajsoee, it's still work :-)14:56
soeeproposed: Wednesday, April 20, 2016: KDE Applications 16.04 Release14:57
soeehttps://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/16.04_Release_Schedule14:57
BluesKajsoee, I'm not privy to that info :-)14:57
soeeso no chance to get it into 16.04 by default14:58
soeeprobably later through backports14:58
BluesKajsee? seeks and ye shall find :-)14:58
BluesKajseek even14:59
imincikthanks all15:01
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elvisangelacciohi guys, please have a look at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35821517:12
ubottuKDE bug 358215 in general "ark process stay alive after closing" [Minor,Unconfirmed]17:12
elvisangelacciokxmlgui 5.18 breaks ark < 15.12 (and also kate)17:12
elvisangelaccio(actually, kxmlgui 5.17 does)17:13
soeeyofel: ^17:24
soeeis it the same issue kate had ?17:24
yofelit very much sounds like it17:24
elvisangelaccioyeah should be the very same17:25
yofelbackporting ark shouldn't be a problem, but I wonder what else is affected :/17:26
yofelmight as well be all rdeps of xmlgui -.-17:26
elvisangelacciofor the record, this is the fix in ark 15.12: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=ark.git&a=commit&h=f7312a26d31cdc31776a09df600327ca86d3daea17:27
soeeyofel: can we just partialy release some 15.12 apps ?17:27
yofelGuessed as much, I remember the discussion about exit on quit17:27
yofelsoee: that's what I already did, might as well do ark as well17:28
soeeyofel: +117:28
yofelprobably everything not kdepim related is safe17:28
yofelI'll look at this later17:28
soeeyofel: the kdepim is upstream issue ?17:28
yofelsoee: kdepim is them breaking ABI, so we cannot *partially* update anything from that17:29
yofelhas to be all of kdepim, or nothing17:29
soee:/17:29
yofelbbl17:33
soeeyofel: still no announcement on kubuntu.org :D18:40
soeelets do it!18:41
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clivejoanyone know why my KDE Bouncer appears to have died?20:10
yofelclivejo: considering that two more people mentioned that in #kde-sysadmin without anyone answering, no20:13
clivejonot just me then20:15

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