[01:09] <jmxiqz> hola
[03:50] <maxxik> Hi guys
[03:50] <maxxik> I've got sddm crash all the time after upgraded to "Plasma 5.4.3 and Applications 15.08.3 for Kubuntu 15.10 "
[03:51] <maxxik> what it strange - it doesnt work in normal mode but works with "upstart" ...
[03:52] <maxxik> anyone else exprienced ?
[04:49] <KingEdgar> So, I have an HP Pavillion g6 1211SS, and t he speaker audio, even when I max out speakers, master, and PCM is too low
[04:49] <KingEdgar> headphones and hdmi out sound perfect though
[04:51] <KingEdgar> i tried disabling pulseaudio to see if that was a culprit and adding myself to the audio group, then of course re-enabling and removing myself from audio when i discovered that did nothing :v
[05:47] <KingEdgar> brb
[07:40] <dunasdan> I have kubuntu-ppa/backports in my wily. I updated today. plasma 5.5.3 was in it. Afterwards sddm only showed a blank screen. In the logs was "sdd-helper exited with 6" and there was a message about Qt Platform not finding xcb in the log. But sadly I no longer have the log, (Since i did a ppa-purge and reboot afterwards)
[07:45] <soee> dunasdan: strange, i did an upgrade and all works fine here
[07:46] <soee> dunasdan: are you running propriety gpu driver maybe ?
[07:48] <soee> dunasdan: also what if you run: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sddm
[07:50] <dunasdan> i have intel graphics
[07:50] <dunasdan> But my /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsession prompted a diff. I don't think i have cahnged it manually by myself but I have zsh installed. The following was the diff
[07:51] <dunasdan> http://pastebin.com/qW0R6EME
[07:52] <dunasdan> sadly I can't run your command right now since I need the system for work now ;-). but i will try it again in the evening
[07:52] <soee> ok :-)
[07:55] <dunasdan> i did do an aptitude safe-upgrade first. there where 6 packages left. Then I did an apt-get dist-upgrade. Then I rebooted.
[07:57] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:00] <valorie> best to use apt now, rather than apt-get
[08:01] <valorie> so `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[08:01] <valorie> worth getting used to, imo
[08:01] <OerHeks> valorie, one can use both, except apt autoremove does not work, it needs apt-get.
[08:04] <dunasdan> Never heart of apt command before but i will try to use it then. It even has colors so it must be better ;-)
[08:05] <valorie> OerHeks: you are correct
[08:06] <valorie> but I've found apt better, where it works
[08:06] <valorie> colors!
[08:06] <valorie> and full-upgrade is better and less confusing that dist-upgrade
[08:25] <Smurphy> Hmmm. Interesting. latest ppa of KDE don't resolve dependencies completely;. Something is still broken.
[08:26] <soee> ?
[08:27] <Smurphy> soee: http://pastebin.com/DRNLMqSf that ...
[08:29] <soee> hmm, strange
[08:30] <Smurphy> removed kde-style-qt5-curve already.
[08:31] <Chronotoss> Hey guys .. I just got the new updates, and it's causing artifacting on my main screen, it's flickering blocks through the top of the monitor. Any ideas were to look to fix this? It does go away after a minutes.
[08:32] <hateball> What new updates are these?
[08:32] <hateball> Chronotoss: You can see what packages have changed by "cat /var/log/apt/history"
[08:33] <hateball> Were there changes to your video driver for instance?
[08:33] <Smurphy> Chronotoss could be that you need to clear your cache -> .cache/plasma*
[08:33] <Chronotoss> Umm ... Not sure, it updates KInfo and some other things. I didn't see anything change my video drivers.
[08:34] <Chronotoss> Smurphy: Just delete the cache folder?
[08:34] <Smurphy> hateball: Could you check this ? -> http://pastebin.com/DRNLMqSf
[08:34] <hateball> Smurphy: Hmmm?
[08:34] <hateball> I don't use PPA, so
[08:36] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: yep, and the cache files starting with plasma.
[08:36] <Smurphy> Best is you logout, go down to a console and delete it. If not, it will be written back from memory.
[08:36] <Chronotoss> Okay! yea and it took out my ability to move and X out of programs. brb!
[08:38] <Smurphy> Upgrading my system. Let
[08:39] <Smurphy> s see what breaks :D
[08:39] <Smurphy> Upgrading to plasma 5.5
[08:43] <Chronotoss> Alright I'm back. Am I going to have to clear the cache everytime a change is made to any graphics portion of the system?
[08:44] <hateball> Normally no
[08:46] <valorie> I've never cleared the cache
[08:46] <valorie> it's rarely necessary
[08:48] <Chronotoss> Odd I'm looking at my systemlog and it looks like i got an error in X ... says :  XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
[08:48] <Smurphy> Chronotos: What was to be expected. That's why you should have moved to a console first -> Alt-F1
[08:48] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: No. You will have to clear the cache everytime major changes in the plasma libraries take place.
[08:49] <valorie> ?
[08:49] <Chronotoss> Smurphy : Oh-kay,I'll just try that first from now on XD
[08:50] <Smurphy> :}
[08:50] <valorie> Smurphy: I never have
[08:50] <Smurphy> valorie: Depends. Do you upgrade your systems, or do you make clean installs ?
[08:50] <valorie> usually upgrade
[08:50] <Smurphy> I upgraded my system from Kubuntu 10.x to 15.x so far :)
[08:50] <valorie> occasional fresh installs
[08:50] <Smurphy> Well, it helped me from 15.04 to 15.10 and plasma 5.
[08:51] <valorie> I use laptops and the laptops eventually die for one reason or another
[08:51] <Smurphy> I have to restart my Desktop. Just upgraded to plasma 5.5. brb ...
[08:51] <Smurphy> :}
[08:51] <valorie> usually a broken hinge or so
[08:53] <Chronotoss> Hopefully at some point I'll be helpfull for someone else.
[08:56] <Chronotoss> Alright, looks like I have to do some Icon resizing and everything will be back to normal! Thank you all I hope you all have a good night!
[08:57] <nicols> valorie: i had to clear cache when upgrading to 5.5.3 ... i had some smaller problems with some icons not displaying correctly. after clearing cache it was OK :)
[08:58] <valorie> cool
[08:58] <valorie> I probably should do it more often
[09:02] <bdcomp> Hi! Just updated my Kubuntu 15.10 64bit via the Kubuntu Backports PPA to 5.5.3 (old xsessions file choosen). After reboot, all the screen full with horisontal lines, although everything seems to work. ~/.cache cleared - same result. Here my .xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/a4jdykNK Please advise
[09:05] <Smurphy> As I faired, the sddm won't start the plasma session anymore.
[09:05] <Smurphy> What to do ...
[09:06] <Smurphy> Could someone check this out for me ? I have no browser to check -> As I'm on the CLI.
[09:06] <Smurphy> How can I prevent sddm from starting over when I tell it to stop, so I can start my X session manually ?
[09:07] <Smurphy> stop sddm will just restart sddm
[09:07] <Smurphy> found it. Using service actually does it.
[09:08] <bdcomp> valorie: Any suggestion?
[09:09] <valorie> bdcomp: as I said before, please do `sudo dpkg configure -a` in a konsole or a terminal (control + alt + f2)
[09:09] <bdcomp> Trying now
[09:09] <valorie> if you use a terminal, it's control + alt + f7 to come back to the gui
[09:10] <valorie> or try other f-keys if that doesn't work for you
[09:10] <valorie> and this time, use a new xsession
[09:10] <Smurphy> valorie: doesn't work here.
[09:10] <valorie> Smurphy: what doesn't?
[09:11] <Smurphy> sudo dpkg configure -a
[09:11] <Smurphy> Need an action option it tells me.
[09:11] <valorie> I'm sorry, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:11] <valorie> sheesh
[09:11] <Smurphy> I however remember, that the system has change some stuff, specific NVidia files -> in the Xsetup etc.
[09:12] <Smurphy> came back empty.
[09:12] <valorie> ok, there is nothing to configure
[09:12] <Smurphy> Checking to revert the Xsetup stuff, if I remember what it was.
[09:12] <soee> Smurphy: you ar eusing nvidia driver ?
[09:13] <soee> dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:13] <Smurphy> No. That's the point. Plain intel.
[09:13] <Smurphy> But X won't start up since las upgrade
[09:13] <valorie> gads
[09:13] <valorie> I need to clear my brain-cache
[09:13] <valorie> thanks, soee
[09:14] <Smurphy> :}
[09:15] <bdcomp> soee: valorie: So I need the reconfigure or configure command?
[09:18] <soee> Smurphy: after sddm upgrade ?
[09:18] <valorie> bdcomp: perhaps try `sudo apt-get install -f` (f is for fix) to see if you have broken packages, first
[09:19] <valorie> sometimes it is necessary to do that more than once
[09:19] <Smurphy> So - X works, tried: "xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- :1" and it starts a session.
[09:19] <valorie> then you can do the sudo dpkg --configure -a to see if any configuration remains to do
[09:19] <Smurphy> I rather suspect that it is the kwallet missing, that is failing.
[09:20] <Smurphy> sooe: yes
[09:20] <valorie> apt install -f also works
[09:20] <soee> Smurphy: yes there were changes in kwallet pam etc.
[09:22] <Smurphy> Yes, I noticed. Only pam-kwallet5 and pam-kwallet4 won't work together. Just force pam-kwallet4 to be installed next to it.
[09:23] <Smurphy> so - X is actually up, sddm is up too, but won't display a thing. What can I check ?
[09:23] <Smurphy> Wrong output ? How can I check which output is being used .
[09:24] <soee> you see only black screen? no cursor etc?
[09:24] <solvarr> The system tray trashes everytime I make changes to it?
[09:25] <solvarr> Does anyone else have problems with their system tray applet?
[09:25] <valorie> I hope you folks are filing bugs!
[09:25] <soee> solvarr: trashes? What Kubntu version / Plasma version ?
[09:25] <valorie> I had very few problems
[09:25] <Smurphy> No - I see the remnants of the boot up (system styl stuff: App started [OK] etc.
[09:25] <solvarr> kubuntu 15.10 with kde 5.4.3
[09:25] <Smurphy> valorie: I can't file bugs. No X ...
[09:25] <Smurphy> :} 15.10, plasma 5.5.3 I think
[09:26] <solvarr> actually when I make changes to the system tray the whole plasma crashes
[09:26] <soee> solvarr: did you upgraded to 5.5.3 today ?
[09:26] <solvarr> nope
[09:26] <solvarr> is it out today?
[09:26] <soee> it landed in backports as users report :)
[09:27] <soee> and if you said you are on 5.4.3, than you probably have backports enabled
[09:27] <Smurphy> so, a startx won't work. How can I force a failsafe session ?
[09:27] <solvarr> what does that mean if i have backports enabled?
[09:27] <Smurphy> soee: yes.
[09:27] <valorie> Smurphy: `ubuntu-bug packagename` in the terminal
[09:27] <soee> solvarr: kubuntu backports ppa
[09:28] <solvarr> yeah i do have that
[09:28] <Smurphy> valorie: Ok. That's nice. But how do I know which package is failing ?
[09:28] <solvarr> is it unstable?
[09:28] <Smurphy> I'll send it in for sddm
[09:28] <valorie> Smurphy: file against SDDM
[09:28] <Smurphy> doing it right now.
[09:28] <valorie> excellent
[09:29] <Smurphy> The problem cannot be reported. This is not an official ubuntu package ;D
[09:29] <Smurphy> *lol*
[09:29] <soee> solvarr: backports contain something that can't go through standard system updates. it contain for example newer Plasma version
[09:30] <valorie> um
[09:30] <solvarr> is it tested enough that it wouldn't be too much trouble for daily use?
[09:30] <valorie> !info sddm
[09:30] <valorie> oh, universe
[09:30] <valorie> pfff
[09:30] <valorie> well that sucks
[09:30] <soee> solvarr: yes i tested it. but some users have problems with it sometimes.
[09:31] <solvarr> i'll try that update now
[09:31] <solvarr> see if the problem goes away
[09:31] <Smurphy> well, I for instance can't start any X based session.
[09:31] <soee> valorie: we backported sddm, 0.13
[09:31] <valorie> Smurphy: can you install lightdm for instance, and purge sddm?
[09:32] <Smurphy> It would remove a whole bunch of data though. I can to that.
[09:32] <valorie> not ideal though
[09:32] <valorie> but geez
[09:32] <Smurphy> running.
[09:32] <valorie> soee: lightdm is the official, and will continue to be
[09:32] <valorie> because that's what unity wants
[09:32] <Smurphy> arglll...installing all kind of Gnome stuff...
[09:33] <valorie> :(
[09:33] <Smurphy> I use KDE because I hate gnome !
[09:33] <valorie> lightdm isn't really gnome
[09:33] <Smurphy> 12MBytes of Gnome Soundes !
[09:33] <valorie> that's gdm
[09:33] <Smurphy> yes, but it uses loads of libraries from Gnome.
[09:33] <valorie> which is one of the reasons we wanted sddm
[09:33] <solvarr> unity isn't too bad
[09:33] <valorie> libs aren't evil
[09:34] <Smurphy> Yeha, it won't integrate nicely with KDE though.
[09:34] <yofel> install lightdm-kde-greeter instead of lightdm
[09:34] <valorie> oops
[09:34] <yofel> installing lightdm will default to installing the GTK greeter :/
[09:34] <valorie> I didn't remember that
[09:34] <solvarr> i thought sddm is default in kubuntu?
[09:34] <Smurphy> lightdm starts, but I have no way to use a plasma/kde session with it.
[09:35] <yofel> solvarr: it is, but still fairly buggy. The best supported DM in ubuntu is lightdm still
[09:35] <valorie> Smurphy: did you see yofel's comment above?
[09:35] <valorie> I gave you incorrect advice
[09:35] <yofel> Smurphy: what's in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[09:35] <Smurphy> I am removing it ...
[09:35] <valorie> !info lightdm-kde-greeter
[09:35] <yofel> If you just *see* the login screen, then it's not a login manager issue
[09:35] <solvarr> so do you suggest i switch to lightdm or stay with sddm?
[09:36] <Smurphy> yofel: empty. Emptied it before. It does not find the default session it want to start.
[09:36] <Smurphy> I'll purge lightdm, and try to install sddm from scratch.
[09:36] <valorie> solvarr: if you are having no problem, stick with sddm
[09:36] <yofel> Smurphy: oh, so "plasma" isn't an option in the session selection?
[09:36] <valorie> it works well for 99.9% of us
[09:36] <Smurphy> Nope. It shows me no session at all.
[09:37] <yofel> Smurphy: plasma-workspace is installed?
[09:37] <soee> solvarr: do not switch to lightdm imo.
[09:37] <soee> solvarr: sddm is login manager that we use and support somehow
[09:37] <Smurphy> while doing the ugprade, it showed me some issues regarding the pam-kwallet stuff, so I defaulted in using the pam-kwallet5 over the 4.
[09:38] <Smurphy> yofel does not exist.
[09:38] <mikkle> I just updated to 5.5.3 via backports...I killed plasmashell and tried to restart it but nothing happens
[09:38] <Smurphy> or do you mean desktop ?
[09:38] <Smurphy> mikkle: See, I'm not the only one :)
[09:38] <mikkle> You too, Smurphy?
[09:38] <mikkle> If you restart, can you login to the desktop?
[09:38] <mikkle> without plasmashell?
[09:38] <yofel> no, I mean:
[09:38] <yofel> plasma-workspace:
[09:38] <yofel>  *** 4:5.5.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1 0
[09:38] <yofel>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ wily/main amd64 Packages
[09:39] <Smurphy> sddm stays in a plack screen.
[09:39] <mikkle> crap
[09:39] <Smurphy> nope. It is not. It is apparently missing.
[09:39] <mikkle> someone wrote this on kubuntu's google+ "Due to a missing dependancy to libqt5xcbqpa5 my xsession broke after install this morning (could not connect to xcb QT5 in .xsession-errors)"
[09:39] <yofel> Smurphy: what does apt-cache policy plasma-workspace tell you?
[09:39] <Smurphy> it already is the newest version.
[09:40] <Smurphy> it's 4:5.5.3
[09:40] <Smurphy> It is installed. Only, sddm won't start.
[09:40] <Smurphy> I can't even log in, as there is no login screen.,
[09:41] <Smurphy> binding a strace to the sddm, it shows nothing. resuming interrupted call only
[09:41] <yofel> Smurphy: could you pastebin your /var/log/sddm.log please? pastebinit can do that from a command line
[09:42] <yofel> sddm forks a couple times I believe, so you would need to trace the right PID
[09:42] <Smurphy> X is running.
[09:42] <Smurphy> Can't. I'm onCLI only
[09:42] <Smurphy> but sddm log is easy -> empty
[09:42] <yofel> urgh
[09:42] <soee> yofel: -> [10:39] <mikkle> someone wrote this on kubuntu's google+ "Due to a missing dependancy to libqt5xcbqpa5 my xsession broke after install this morning (could not connect to xcb QT5 in .xsession-errors)"
[09:43] <Smurphy> yofel: I can attach to the PID while it is running.
[09:43] <valorie> !info pastebinit
[09:43] <valorie> Smurphy: ^^^
[09:43] <yofel> Smurphy: you might want to look for sddm-greeter
[09:43] <yofel> Smurphy: also see what soee just posted
[09:43] <lmp_> Hi there good folks - Kubuntu 15.10 just got a massive KDE update which uninstalled muon - what do you recommend to use instead?
[09:44] <Smurphy> greeter not running.
[09:44] <Smurphy> Just saw it.
[09:44] <Smurphy> lmp_: Don't install it just yet.... !
[09:44] <Smurphy> upgrade it just yet.
[09:44] <yofel> lmp_: for the time being, synaptics if you need a *package* manager, otherwise plasma discover
[09:44] <yofel> we'll try to bring muon back
[09:45] <Smurphy> yofel: sddm-greeter is not running. Checking if I find it.
[09:45] <Smurphy> dependencies on sddm-greeter seem to be there.
[09:46] <lmp_> Alright fair and square - thanks for the help! :)
[09:46] <yofel> Smurphy: is libqt5xcbqpa5 installed?
[09:47] <Smurphy> sudo apt-get install  libqt5xcbqpa5
[09:47] <Smurphy> Just did it - and I got the greeter again :)
[09:47] <Smurphy> No dependency handled that oine :)
[09:47] <yofel> libqt5gui5 recommends it, which doesn't seem to be enough
[09:47] <solvarr> ubuntu software center
[09:47] <yofel> thanks soee for the hint
[09:48] <Smurphy> But I still can't log in.
[09:48] <soee> yofel: are we able to fix it, so it will be installed ?
[09:48] <yofel> soee: that's easy enough
[09:50] <Smurphy> So - I can't get into a session. it tells me, can't change permission /dev/null in .xsession-errors.
[09:50] <yofel> is the file owned by root in any case? (wild guess)
[09:51] <Smurphy> /dev/null ? yes - always. Device file.
[09:52] <yofel> no, ~/.xsession-errors
[09:52] <Smurphy> inside that file, that's what I see.
[09:52] <Smurphy> I deleted that file now completely. Let's see what it says :D
[09:53] <yofel> oh, I misunderstood what you said ^^
[09:53] <Smurphy> it creates the .xsession-errors file, and puts this into it:
[09:53] <Smurphy> chmod: changing permissions of ■/dev/null■: Operation not permitted
[09:53] <Smurphy> and that's where the sddm desktop hangs.
[09:54] <Smurphy> I had deleted all .cache/plasma* before BTW.
[09:54] <yofel> ... wtf?
[09:54] <Smurphy> Hmmm. I have kwalletd/kwallet5 several times in the system etc. I think I'll reboot that box for a clean start.
[09:55] <Smurphy> Probably some process is still running, and doing that.
[09:55] <Smurphy> yofel: as I'm running of an SSD, I tend to redirect all log/debug/verbose chat stuff to /dev/null.
[09:55] <Smurphy> brb.
[09:59] <Smurphy> Hmmm... Ok, that was unfortunate. I restarted my Server instead of my Workstation.
[09:59] <Smurphy> still can't log into my plasma-session.
[10:00] <yofel> FWIW, error you get is most likely from line 66 in /etc/X11/Xsession
[10:00] <yofel> *the error
[10:00] <Smurphy> Ah. Ok. checking.
[10:01] <Smurphy> Indeed. There is aERRFILE pointing to /dev/null. Replaced it with .Xsession-errors
[10:02] <Smurphy> niiice. It is re-creating the cache content... Abeit slowly
[10:02] <Smurphy> Look and feel has change ... I like it.
[10:03] <Smurphy> Hmmm. Fonts are way smoother now, and UI is way smoother too (Movements etc.).
[10:03] <Smurphy> Nice ;)
[10:03] <Smurphy> Works...
[10:03] <Smurphy> I'm back int.
[10:04] <valorie> \o/
[10:04] <Smurphy> yofel: Shall you hang around in france once (North of Paris), let me know. The Wine is on me :D
[10:05] <yofel> I'll remember that ;)
[10:05] <yofel> why is the session stuff so delicate *-.-
[10:05] <Smurphy> And if it's in summer - you're welcome for my known Barbecues ! :D
[10:07] <Smurphy> Ok. Loging out, restoring the .xsession -> /dev/null stuff ...
[10:08] <Smurphy> back.
[10:10] <Smurphy> BTW -  has the akonadi backend communication protocol been changed yet ? From xml to the binary type ?
[10:10] <yofel> "yes", but I don't know in which version they did that
[10:10] <Smurphy> Nice. It seems to be faster (kmail at least).
[10:11] <soee> :)
[10:15] <mikkle> Smurphy: how did you get it to login? Could you log in by setting sddm to auto login?
[10:17] <mikkle> I just got an update for sddm...what a coincidence
[10:17] <mikkle> I see the font's changed to "Noto"
[10:17] <Smurphy> mikkle: I had to add a library which was not included yet apparently.
[10:17] <mikkle> which was that Smurphy?
[10:18] <Smurphy> Can't tell. Maybe one of the folks in this channel can tell you. I have mistakenly rebooted my server that holds this IRC session... no logs
[10:19] <mikkle> alright, thanks
[10:19] <bdcomp> valorie: Regarding the horisontal lines after update to 5.5.3 - it's pretty strange - if exiting the current session by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and choosing the same user - everything great. In fact, now I am working this way. sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg --configure -a done, without any results or errors. How should I fix the current state permanently, so next boot it will not show the horisontal lines.
[10:19] <soee> mikkle: try reboot after sddm update, also the package mentioned was libqt5xcbqpa5
[10:20] <bdcomp> Is it still relevant to the xsession file (I choose to keep the old)?
[10:20] <mikkle> soee- thanks...i have that installed
[10:20] <Smurphy> mikkle: It was libqt5xcbqpa5 :}
[10:20] <mikkle> cheers!
[10:20] <mikkle> I'm a bit afraid to restart since I need to use my computer for the day...shall i?
[10:21] <mikkle> still can't manually start plasmashell
[10:21] <mikkle> which is worrying
[10:22] <Smurphy> :} Worked here now.
[10:22] <mikkle> ok, here goes....
[10:23] <Smurphy> lol :)
[10:23] <dark-reader> Good morning
[10:24] <Smurphy> morning
[10:24] <dark-reader> I'm still trying to solve my problems with kde, would make sense removing kde and then reinstalling it again?
[10:25] <Smurphy> which problem ?
[10:25] <dark-reader> Smurphy, I only see black screen and the cursor
[10:25] <Smurphy> dark-reader: When did that start ?
[10:26] <Smurphy> latest sddm upgrade should fix that. Try it out.
[10:26] <dark-reader> I've asked for help here yesterday but I didn't fix it
[10:26] <dark-reader> I'm on 15.04
[10:27] <Smurphy> I remember. Sorry, Won't be able to help much today though.
[10:28] <hateball> dark-reader: well 15.04 is EOL in a few days, so you could start by upgrading to 15.10
[10:31] <dark-reader> hateball, should I type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[10:31] <hateball> dark-reader: to upgrade release, you use do-release-upgrade
[10:34] <bdcomp> While update to 5.5.3 I choosed to keep the old xsession file. How do I revert this now, as it's creates horisontal lines on the screen.
[10:41] <yofel> bdcomp: that should not create the lines, but beside the old file, there should be one called Xsession.dpkg-new with the new contents
[10:42] <dark-reader> hateball, thanks. I'm doing it right now
[10:44] <bdcomp> yofel: where the new file should be?
[10:44] <yofel> bdcomp: same place as the old one
[10:49] <bdcomp> yofel: locate xsession /etc/upstart-xsessions /etc/X11/Xsession.d/40x11-common_xsessionrc /home/boaz/.xsession-errors /home/boaz/.xsession-errors.old /usr/share/xsessions /usr/share/app-install/desktop/lxsession-default-apps:lxsession-default-apps.desktop /usr/share/upstart/sessions/xsession-init.conf /usr/share/xsessions/kodi.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/xbmc.desktop
[10:49] <bdcomp> yofel: it's pretty strange - if exiting the current session by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and choosing the same user - everything great. In fact, now I am working this way. sudo apt-get install -f and sudo dpkg --configure -a done, without any results or errors. How should I fix the current state permanently, so next boot it will not show the horisontal lines.
[10:50] <yofel> bdcomp: I think you meant the one in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/
[10:50] <yofel> no idea, someone said that removing ~/.cache helped, so maybe your cache just got re-generated..
[10:56] <bdcomp> yofel: Should I try to backup the Xsession file in /usr/share/sddm/scripts/ and rename the Xsession.dpkg-dist to Xsession?
[10:57] <yofel> well, you can try. But the change shouldn't really do much..
[11:01] <bdcomp> So why the auto login is to screen with horisontal lines, while Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and choosing the same user - everything great? It's not relevant to Xsession?
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:24] <hazamonzo> BluesKaj: Howdy!
[12:25] <BluesKaj> hey hazamonzo
[12:28] <solvarr> fcitx is not working in some applications after today's upgrade?
[12:29] <soee> what is fcitx ? :)
[12:29] <solvarr> it's a chinese input method lol
[12:29] <soee> never seen/used that in my entire life :D
[12:29] <solvarr> i figured lol
[12:40] <cosec_> guys
[12:41] <cosec_> need help
[12:41] <cosec_> i installed kubuntu 15.10
[12:41] <cosec_> updated it
[12:41] <cosec_> just now
[12:41] <cosec_> and wifi stopped working
[12:41] <cosec_> :(
[12:41] <cosec_> what do i do ?
[12:41] <hateball> Was it working on 15.10 prior to updating?
[12:41] <cosec_> i am using lenovo y460
[12:41] <cosec_> yes
[12:41] <cosec_> i updated it using wifi
[12:41] <cosec_> :9
[12:41] <cosec_> :(
[12:42] <hateball> cosec_: You can reboot, hold shift and go into grub menu and pick an older kernel
[12:42] <hateball> Regressions happen
[12:42] <cosec_> won't booting an older kernel make the update pointless ?
[12:42] <soee> cosec_: is Wifi enabled ?
[12:43] <cosec_> and whats up with so many unverified packages while updating ?
[12:43] <soee> (in Network Manager)
[12:43] <cosec_> i do not understand
[12:43] <cosec_> yes wifi is enables
[12:43] <cosec_> my cell is working fine with wifi
[12:43] <hateball> Sounds to me like you've updated from a repo that hasnt been synched properly
[12:43] <cosec_> now connected with lan
[12:43] <soee> does it lists networks or list is emtpy ?
[12:43] <hateball> cosec_: It's not making it pointless. It's testing if there is a bug in a later kernel, so that can be reported
[12:43] <cosec_> all my networks are listed
[12:44] <soee> ok, so maybe some kwallet issue
[12:44] <cosec_> hateball: ok. please bare with me. newbie here
[12:44] <cosec_> *bear
[12:44] <cosec_> *ggenglish
[12:44] <cosec_> i reinstalled kwallet
[12:44] <soee> can you connect to any of them (listed there)
[12:44] <soee> ?
[12:44] <cosec_> i can  connect
[12:45] <cosec_> but no websites work
[12:45] <cosec_> lemme reboot and check
[12:45] <cosec_> thanks guys
[12:45] <cosec_> later kernel
[12:45] <cosec_> and kwallet
[12:45] <OerHeks> dns issue maybe, can you ping 74.125.224.72 ( = google.com
[12:46] <soee> he left :)
[12:47] <OerHeks> seen that now, my internet is slow, just found out ABBA split up.
[12:48] <hateball> :D
[12:48] <bdcomp> I am still looking for help about horizontal lines after update to Plasma 5.5.3 https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?69570-Graphic-problem-after-update-to-5-5-3 Any suggestion appreciated
[12:52] <soee> bdcomp: can you take a screenshot with this "effect" ?
[12:54] <solvarr> Why does my left arrow key stop working?
[12:54] <solvarr> The key is fine. I tested in virtual machine.
[12:54] <solvarr> The only problem is the cursor doesn't go left when I press it.
[12:55] <bdcomp> soee: http://pasteboard.co/UtIIj1U.jpg
[12:55] <cosec_> Guys
[12:55] <cosec_> I tried rebooting
[12:56] <solvarr> That  looks like an unhappy graphics driver to me.
[12:56] <cosec_> Holding shift doesn't load grub
[12:56] <cosec_> And WiFi still broken
[12:56] <cosec_> :(
[12:56] <cosec_> No cake at all
[12:57] <cosec_> Lenovo y460, WiFi not working after updating 15.10
[12:57] <cosec_> Any ideas?
[12:57] <soee> solvarr: but you have teh problem in virtual machine on live installation ?
[12:58] <OerHeks> cosec_, "wifi works, but you cannot get any page", looks like a DNS issue.
[12:58] <cosec_> DNS issue?
[12:58] <cosec_> What can I do?
[12:58] <solvarr> What do you mean by on live installation?
[12:58] <OerHeks> can you ping 74.125.224.72 ( = google.com )
[12:58] <soee> solvarr: sorry it was to bdcomp
[12:58] <OerHeks> or use the ip in your browser?
[12:58] <solvarr> lol ok
[12:58] <cosec_> Okay
[12:59] <soee> bdcomp: can you test one thing: rename .kde and .config to .kde_back and .config_bak (do it from different tty than the one where login manager is loaded)
[12:59] <soee> bdcomp: and than login as usual via loginmanager and see if anything chnages
[13:00] <soee> brb, food time
[13:02] <bdcomp> What is the location of .kde and .config? Renaming from live-cd is OK?
[13:02] <cosec_> Woot!!
[13:02] <cosec_> WiFi working now
[13:03] <cosec_> Jesus Christy
[13:03] <cosec_> It goes kaput and its okay now?
[13:03] <cosec_> Wtf
[13:03] <bdcomp> soee: What is the location of .kde and .config? Renaming from live-cd is OK?
[13:03] <cosec_> Thanks OerHeks
[13:05] <OerHeks> cosec_, wifi can sometimes take up to a minute to connect fully, depends on the trafic i guess
[13:07] <hateball> cosec_: run "dmesg" in a terminal to see output
[13:07] <hateball> might be it tries to auth many times before it succeeds
[13:07] <hateball> cosec_: what chipset is it? there maybe known issues
[13:08] <cosec_> Lenovo y460
[13:08] <cosec_> Wtf
[13:09] <cosec_> Its gone kaput again
[13:09] <cosec_> :@
[13:09] <cosec_> LAN working fine
[13:09] <hateball> cosec_: that'll be your computer model
[13:09] <cosec_> WiFi dead
[13:09] <hateball> cosec_: run lspci |grep Net
[13:09] <cosec_> Okok
[13:09] <hateball> It's probably realtek
[13:10] <BluesKaj> cosec_, broadcom wifi ?
[13:10] <cosec_> Network controller: Intel centrino wireless-n 1000
[13:11] <hateball> Weird, Intel usually works just great
[13:11] <hateball> cosec_: Is the network G, N or AC?
[13:11] <cosec_> Ethernet : broadcom corp netlink BCM57780 Gigabit
[13:11] <cosec_> Lemme check the band
[13:11] <hateball> At any rate, as you said it worked prior to upgrades you should really try rebooting and picking a previous kernel in grub menu
[13:13] <cosec_> Looks like its really unstable
[13:13] <cosec_> Holding shift during boot gave me no boot loader
[13:13] <cosec_> I can't see grub
[13:14] <cosec_> Usually installing Linux, I get to see grub menu
[13:14] <cosec_> Weird
[13:14] <hateball> cosec_: You do it right after/during BIOS?
[13:14] <hateball> I usually hammer shift instead of holding
[13:14] <cosec_> Lool
[13:14] <cosec_> Okok
[13:14] <bdcomp> soee: Do you mean Home/ .config and .kde directories?
[13:14] <cosec_> Its hammering time!!
[13:14] <OerHeks> yes, repeatedly pressing shift
[13:14] <hateball> cosec_: There's also the option of editing grub config to force it to always show
[13:15] <cosec_> How could I do that?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> probly UEFI troubles
[13:20] <hateball> oh they left again
[13:22] <HoloIRCUser4> Restarted router
[13:22] <HoloIRCUser4> Seems to be working now
[13:23] <cosec_> I have a question
[13:23] <cosec_> What are there so many unverified packages
[13:23] <cosec_> While updating ?
[13:23] <cosec_> I mean I updated with the updated that came with the os
[13:24] <cosec_> *updater
[13:24] <hateball> cosec_: the mirror you are using is perhaps not synched
[13:24] <hateball> cosec_: if you run "sudo apt-get update" do you get any errors?
[13:24] <cosec_> Lemme see
[13:25] <soee> bdcomp: yes
[13:26] <cosec_> Its working fine
[13:26] <cosec_> Seems to be downloading
[13:26] <cosec_> A lot of shit....
[13:26] <soee> !language
[13:27] <cosec_> Sorry sorry
[13:27] <cosec_> I thought that word was casual American english
[13:27] <OerHeks> cosec_, paste the output to https://paste.kde.org/ and let us see
[13:31] <HoloIRCUser4> Check
[13:32] <HoloIRCUser4> goo.gl/7xU8gD
[13:32] <cosec_> OerHeks...
[13:32] <cosec_> Can you see?
[13:33] <OerHeks> seems like no issue to me.
[13:33] <cosec_> Yep
[13:33] <cosec_> Oh well
[13:33] <cosec_> I hope I don't get any more errors
[13:33] <cosec_> Wahaha
[13:33] <OerHeks> i wonder why a google short url, another tracking ...
[13:34] <cosec_> Linux
[13:34] <cosec_> I tried kde pastebin
[13:34] <cosec_> Gave me that url
[13:34] <cosec_> Recently
[13:34] <cosec_> I tried
[13:34] <cosec_> Installing xubuntu-desktop
[13:34] <cosec_> Package in ubuntu
[13:35] <cosec_> Os broke
[13:35] <cosec_> Installed openbox in arch
[13:35] <cosec_> Loading it gave be black screen with a cursor
[13:36] <cosec_> Linux adventures
[13:36] <cosec_> Gone wrong xD
[13:36] <cosec_> I have to say, KDE is gorgeous
[13:37] <soee> does it work for you fine ?
[13:40] <BluesKaj> !enter |cosec_
[13:53] <solvarr> Left arrow key still isn't working...
[13:53] <solvarr> I've tried awesome and it works fine there.
[13:54] <solvarr> It just doesn't work in plasma.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> what's awesome?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> !awesome
[13:55] <BluesKaj> !info awesome
[13:55] <solvarr> yep... i figured it might also work in other desktop environments or window managers
[13:56] <BluesKaj> dumb overused name
[13:56] <solvarr> lol
[14:24] <bdcomp> soee: Renaming Home/ .config and .kde directories don't helped. Still boots to horizonal lines.
[14:28] <bdcomp> soee: I also tried to delete the default user from sddm.conf file in hope to manually login. The result is login screen with horizonal lines...
[14:29] <solvarr> what desktop environment do you log into?
[14:34] <soee> bdcomp: this sounds more like gpu driver issue or something :/
[14:36] <bdcomp> soee: It's crealrly related to the 5.5.3 and sddm update this morning. Where it's best to open a bug?
[14:44] <soee> bdcomp: so there was no such problem before plasma update ?
[14:45] <bdcomp> soee: No
[14:46] <soee> was there kernel update maybe by any chance ?
[14:49] <bdcomp> soee: No kernel, but sddm
[14:50] <soee> i'm not sure what it can be :/
[15:04] <anabain> (15.10) I need some help with kdeconnect. My Xiaomi 1S connected once fine but the second time I tried I couldn't. My kde desktop complained about some crash with kdeconnectd, I think. Can I restart something or delete some corrupt config file, or is it simply the nth kde bug?
[15:08] <bdcomp> soee: Please take a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1535763 What package should be affected? May I ask you to assign and/or subscribe anyone relevant?
[15:55] <Guite_> hi all
[15:55] <Guite_> Upgraded five machines with Wily to Plasma 5.5.3
[15:55] <Guite_> four work fine, but one notebook seems to have graphics broken
[15:55] <Guite_> changed from OpenGL 2.0 to 3.1 in compositor settings but this didn't make a difference
[15:56] <Guite_> after booting the machine graphics are totally broken (like if there would be a hardware issue)
[15:57] <Guite_> after somehow getting some kind of plasma restart done (e.g. by closing the notebook and opening it again) suddenly it works
[15:57] <Guite_> any idea how to fix this?
[15:58] <Guite_> GPU: [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7520G]
[15:59] <Guite_> switching from EGL to XGL seems to solve the problem (although it is just a workaround)
[16:00] <Guite_> nope, the problem still occurs with XGL also
[16:01] <Guite_> switched back to GLX
[16:02] <hateball> Guite_: radeon or fglrx ?
[16:02] <hateball> or even amdgpu ?
[16:02]  * hateball knows next to nothing about AMD chipsets
[16:03] <Guite_> radeon
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Guite_, do you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon installed
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ?
[16:05] <Guite_> yes
[16:06] <Guite_> actually this wasn't a system update, only latest updates from kde backports with plasma 5.5.3 and newest frameworks
[16:07] <Guite_> the notebook having the problem is not heavily used (almost only for firefox and thunderbird)
[16:07] <Guite_> so a workaround decreasing graphic power would be enough
[16:08] <BluesKaj> what Guite_ the updates are quite numerous and are being uploaded to the repos quite often as well, suggest you update and upgrade again
[16:08] <Guite_> 1 update found -> sddm
[16:09] <Guite_> looks promising :)
[16:09] <Guite_> thanks for the hint
[16:10] <Guite_> yeah that fixed it
[16:10] <Guite_> thank you so much ^^
[16:10] <Guite_> have a nice day all
[16:11] <BluesKaj> ok Guite_ yw
[16:42] <Maxiride> I'm still testing the backports-landing stuff. I've just noticed today that if the screen is locked AND it's turned off by power management settings. When I turn on the screen (hitting a keyboard button\moving the mouse) the screen turns on as expected but I'm not prompted with the login screen.
[16:42] <Maxiride> For few seconds (usually no more than 10s) I see my desktop\open apps etc, luckly I'm not able to interact with them but they are visibile.. kinda of a privacy\secuirty issue.
[16:44] <hateball> I think mgraesslin said "wayland will fix that"
[16:45] <Maxiride> hateball: well isn't the lates wayland already implemented into the backports-landing?
[16:46] <Maxiride> I thought it contained new framework (which contains wayland) or did I misunderstood?
[16:46] <hateball> Maxiride: I don't know, I dont use backports. And I doubt it'll change your default from xorg to wayland without any config :)
[16:47] <Maxiride> uh, so I'm still running with xorg. Good to know =)
[16:57] <nicu> yo
[16:58] <BluesKaj> yo?
[16:58] <nicu> yo bitch 'sup
[17:02] <BluesKaj> nicu, speak English please, shtsspeak here.
[17:04] <stefano> !list
[18:57] <kristof_> need some help
[18:58] <kristof_> using kubuntu en not able to rwite in some programs on facebook aka games
[19:42] <dunasdan> Updated backports on wily today. calibre can no longer be installed with following error:
[19:43] <dunasdan> http://pastebin.com/qZJDMW9Z
[19:44] <dunasdan> Can something be done?
[19:46] <genii> dunasdan: The deb files for them will be in /var/cache/apt/archives  .. you can do: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /var/cache/apt/archives/<calibre-deb-name-here>
[19:47] <genii> This will make it ignore the dependencies and install anyhow
[19:47] <Unit193> I'd check down the rabbit hole and see where that package came from.  Also,  apt list | grep installed,loc
[19:49] <dunasdan> well i installed that package myself. I guess it got deinstalled during upgrade.
[19:51] <dunasdan> I don't have the calibre package in /var/cache/apt/archives. But apt aborted before even beinning to download on the dependency check or not?
[19:53] <genii> Use apt-get download then, it will be in the dir where you run the command. Then you can do the sudo dpkg -i --force-depends  <deb-name>
[19:53] <BigFredy> hi all
[19:59] <dunasdan> thanks genii that did install it but it did not run afterwards. So I just went to the homepage and used the linux install script from there. Now it runs. Its just not the one provided in the official repos.
[20:00] <genii> dunasdan: When you do things like that, you should put apps from outside repositories in somewhere like /usr/local/bin or the individual's bin dir in /home/theirname/bin
[20:02] <dunasdan> Well since they provided a handy install one-liner. I just used that.
[20:21] <acher88> The calibre install script installs in /opt/calibre/ then symlinks the binaries to /usr/bin
[20:23] <acher88> has compiled in qt as well if I recall so should cop on system qt upgrade
[20:23] <genii> Shouldn't be trying to put symlinks there, especially if another binary of same name already exists
[20:25] <acher88> What it does on install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14577482/
[20:27] <acher88> dont think I've used a distro proved packed for calibre for many years now
[23:54] <Ace> help
[23:54] <Ace> anyone?
[23:54] <Guest61171> hello
[23:55] <Guest61171> I Recently installed kubuntu and its buggy
[23:59] <valorie> pfff, ask and leave