[09:18] <pragomer_1> hi. how can I get german keyboard layout in lubuntu's lightdm-login?
[17:12] <pair0doc> where is the best/proper location to put a startup script or edit one that runs after X is initialize but before any user logs in with lubunutu 14.04 . I have been hammer google for at least 2 hours.
[17:13] <pair0doc> I want to copy my .Xauthority (located in /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 ) to a location with user access to start x11vnc through a ssh tunnel.
[17:24] <pair0doc> testdr, busy? are you knowledgeable on startup scripts?
[17:25] <testdr> pair0doc: just connected --- what kind of startup scripts -- for lxde.. setting timeout
[17:25] <pair0doc> repost:
[17:25] <pair0doc> where is the best/proper location to put a startup script or edit one that runs after X is initialize but before any user logs in with lubunutu 14.04 . I have been hammer google for at least 2 hours.
[17:25] <pair0doc> I want to copy my .Xauthority (located in /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 ) to a location with user access to start x11vnc through a ssh tunnel.
[17:26] <testdr> pair0doc: i do something like this -- but not for a connecting ssh-user - you wanna hear?
[17:27] <pair0doc> please
[17:28] <testdr> pair0doc: i copy/create a xauthority-file in /tmp and set the XAUTHORITY environement for the new user to this location --
[17:29] <pair0doc> I can not seem to get that working by editing /etc/lxdm/default.conf
[17:29] <pair0doc> which I know is a symbolic link.
[17:31] <testdr> pair0doc: sorry - you dont know about the x-server authority? About setting the mit-magic-cookie?
[17:34] <testdr> pair0doc: xauth --- a "xauth list" displays the current x11-access-cookie -- the new user needs this to use the same x11-resources or a complete new x11-server
[17:35] <pair0doc> I think I got that. at this point I am only planning on running one X11-server.
[17:36] <pair0doc>  /etc/lxdm/default.conf has a commented line that reads xauth_path=/tmp
[17:37] <pair0doc> perhaps I looked wrong,thinking the file would still be called ':0'
[17:38] <testdr> pair0doc: no -- the normal file for a user is in his/her home-directory and called something like:  .Xauthority  (most times .. but not necessary)
[17:40] <testdr> pair0doc: if you copy this file to a place accesable for a new user, than this user can take it an use the x11-cookie to use the x11-server-services
[17:40] <pair0doc> testdr, I thought I specified, before a user logs in. I am trying to get the login/greeter.
[17:41] <testdr> pair0doc: a ssh-user connects into a running service? Or am i wrong?
[17:42] <pair0doc> the ssh daemon, but then the user starts x11vnc.
[17:43] <pair0doc> It works when I connect x11vnc to /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 but normally the user does not have access to this file.
[17:43] <pair0doc> thus the reason I wanted a script after X server initialization before user login.
[17:45] <testdr> pair0doc: sorry, i am not familiar with x11vnc -- but i dont see, why you may need the x11-login-process, the user is already logged in via ssh, why not start the x11-server without the login-session?
[17:47] <pair0doc> I think that would work. can you initialize the X11 server via ssh?
[17:52] <pair0doc> this is the one liner I use from the client
[17:53] <testdr> pair0doc: i dont get it - sorry again - have you ever tried to connect to your own x11-server over ssh? To 127.0.0.1 --- what "oneliner"?
[17:53] <pair0doc> ssh -p xx -C -f -L 5900:localhost:5900 user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx x11vnc -auth ~/.Xauth_server -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0 && sleep 5 && vncviewer localhost:0
[17:54] <pair0doc> you mean connect to my own x11-server via xdmcp?
[17:55] <testdr> pair0doc: the ~ substitution may not work like you want? Your local home-directory?
[17:56] <pair0doc> I can not ~/.Xauth_server file to exist. that was just a quickie out of my history.
[17:57] <Lashara> hello ?
[17:57] <Lashara> Can i ask question here about lubuntu ?
[17:58] <wxl> !ask | Lashara
[17:58] <testdr> pair0doc: sorry, i dont get it -- maybe cause i always used it the other way round, always with a local x11-server and running x11-programms via ssh on a different computer, but using my local x11-server for display and key/mouse-input
[17:59] <Lashara> Bassicaly in ubuntu mate i have the ability to set whether workspaces wrap/scroll arround using mousewheel or not... I wonder whether its possible to set this in lubuntu ?\
[18:00] <wxl> Lashara: so basically you want to use (or not use) the mousewheel to navigate through your workspaces?
[18:02] <Lashara> yes... the scrolling using mouse wheel works but the problem is that it.. lets say.. can run around ?? for example if i am at workspace 1 and scroll lets say 2 clicks it goes toks it goes to workspace 2 and then back to workspace 1, but i want it to stay at workspace 2(in case when there are only 2 workspaces)
[18:03] <wxl> that's one i'm not sure about Lashara but i can tell you the file to edit and give you some links and you can play with it. is that ok?
[18:03] <Lashara> ok
[18:03] <wxl> give me a second though
[18:03] <wxl> i'm spinning up my lubuntu vm. we use kubuntu at work.
[18:05] <Lashara> In ubuntu mate.. in workspace preferences.. i have option called - allow workspace wrap around in switcher... What would be equivilant in Lubuntu ?
[18:05] <wxl> i don't think that it's as clear as that Lashara
[18:06] <wxl> we should make a "Lubuntu tweak" app
[18:06] <wxl> ! that's a great idea actually
[18:06] <wxl> redwolf: ^
[18:06] <wxl> ok so the file is ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml lubotu1
[18:06] <wxl> oops
[18:06] <wxl> Lashara i meant
[18:07] <wxl> that controls, among other things, input bindings
[18:07] <pair0doc> testdr, I think that is more or less the same thing is it not? what would be the difference?
[18:09] <redwolf> O.O
[18:09] <wxl> i'm googling for the instructive wiki page now Lashara
[18:10] <redwolf> we already have a Lubuntu Tweak UI, but it's very limited for now
[18:10] <wxl> redwolf: you mean obconf? XD
[18:10] <redwolf> nope. "lubuntu-tweak"
[18:10] <wxl> is that a default thing and i never noticed?
[18:10]  * wxl is too used to editing files
[18:10] <redwolf> https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-tweaks
[18:11] <wxl> ah ppa
[18:11] <redwolf> it does ALL this: http://is.gd/annQiP
[18:11] <wxl> there this will help you Lashara http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings
[18:11] <wxl> um, wow, redwolf
[18:11] <redwolf> LOL
[18:11] <redwolf> it's promising though :D
[18:12] <redwolf> it just needs... options :D
[18:12] <wxl> maybe i'll make a blueprint to brainstorm some ideas (i guess at this point this conversation should move to -devel)
[18:12] <redwolf> for session tweaks I recommend the other one
[18:13]  * wxl dances
[18:14] <redwolf> WildSoft, this app https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GFLcmgYhCSM/U0_HfMV2wwI/AAAAAAAASTM/HVUcNdGMMN0/s1600/lubuntu1404-lxsession-default-apps.png is far more powerful to control the session
[18:14] <wxl> long url :/
[18:14] <WildSoft> o0
[18:14] <redwolf> (sorry for the long url)
[18:14] <redwolf> wxl, this app http://is.gd/Y4N0NM is far more powerful to control the session
[18:14] <redwolf> sorry, WildSoft, wrong ping :D
[18:15] <WildSoft> figured ;)
[18:15] <Lashara> ok thank you, ill try to see what i can do :)
[18:15] <redwolf> :)
[18:16] <wxl> Lashara: i found the option you need! http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#GoToDesktop
[18:16] <wxl> <action name="GoToDesktop"><to>next</to><wrap>no</wrap></action>
[18:17] <wxl> as an example
[18:18] <redwolf> moving from one desktop to another?
[18:18] <wxl> —without wrapping
[18:19] <redwolf> I like this method :) http://lubuntu.me/tip-3d-desktop/
[18:21]  * wxl is listening to Hottah by DUBCON ♫ http://www.last.fm/music/DUBCON/_/Hottah
[18:21] <wxl> there finally sheesh
[18:21] <wxl> ok i better head to -offtopic or somewhere now XD
[18:21] <redwolf> YES
[19:32] <Lashara> still need help!!! In Ubuntu mate u can do ----> workspace->preferences->allow workspace  wrap around switcher... how do u replicate this feature in lubuntu
[19:33] <wxl> Lashara: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#GoToDesktop
[19:34] <wxl> sheesh i only have 5G
[19:35] <wxl> oops wrong channel
[19:36] <Lashara> sry for being toal noob :\ .. where do you or how do you change/execute those commands
[19:37] <wxl> Lashara: no problem. you'll need to edit ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml accordingly
[20:37] <jerbot> what is rmod? :>
[20:38] <jerbot> http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=8726 trying to get sound by rmoding and modprobing
[20:40] <jerbot> getting FATAL module /etc/modules not found
[20:52] <genii> jerbot: rmmod/rmod is remove module command. You can also use modprobe -r  to do same thing
[20:55] <genii> jerbot: /etc/modules is not a module by itself, it is a text file with module names inside the file, which are to load when the system boots
[21:03] <pleia2> jerbot: I wrote that blog post a long time ago, it should probably be taken with a grain of salt :)
[21:03] <pleia2> I know that it worked for my hardware with 12.04 in 2013, but no promises beyond that
[21:06] <jerbot> oh...
[21:06] <jerbot> well i'm on the same setup, it seems. pictures look the same (you weren't on the aluminum)....
[21:06] <pleia2> the chipsets vary, and I imagine you're not using Lubuntu 12.04
[21:06] <jerbot> so how do i modprobe the modules bc I still got no sound, no idea what to do, and upgrading to 14.04 results in a blurry scattered screen
[21:06] <jerbot> yeh i'm usin that
[21:07] <jerbot> 12.04
[21:07] <jerbot> lts
[21:07] <pleia2> wow, that's old :\
[21:07] <Unit193> jerbot: That's not an LTS for Lubuntu.
[21:07] <pleia2> is that even supported by lubuntu?
[21:07] <jerbot> 512 mb ram and 14.04 doesn't work.
[21:07] <pleia2> yeah, that
[21:07] <jerbot> it's not?
[21:08] <pleia2> no
[21:08] <pleia2> the flavors, like Lubuntu, get to choose their LTS cycle, it's not the same as Ubuntu
[21:08] <jerbot> ballz :<
[21:08] <pleia2> even Ubuntu itself only supported desktop 12.04 for 3 years
[21:08] <jerbot> so is 12.10 gonig to load without all these video issues?
[21:08] <pleia2> (server for 5)
[21:08] <pleia2> 12.10 is very much end of life too
[21:09] <pleia2> the only supported releases are 14.04, 15.04 (for a couple mor weeks) and 15.10
[21:09] <jerbot> but 15.10 isn't supported at all, right?
[21:10] <pleia2> I haven't kept up, maybe they did drop ppc support in 15.10
[21:10] <jerbot> http://superuser.com/questions/1028206/include-network-drivers-on-a-mini-cd-probook-g4-lubuntu-black-screen-with
[21:10] <jerbot> well, I just need to use the thing for document editting and emailing, you know?
[21:11] <jerbot> 12.04 works on it. is it really going to be a huge issue if support drops?
[21:11] <jerbot> I could still get a good year or 2 out of it, probably, right?
[21:11] <pleia2> support already dropped
[21:11] <pleia2> I wouldn't recommend it
[21:11] <jerbot> too many security holes?
[21:11] <pleia2> yep
[21:11] <jerbot> so 14.04 has another few years?
[21:12] <Unit193> 14.04 is supported for 3 years from date of launch.
[21:12] <jerbot> So, i got 14.04 working, kind of.  It has this blurry white screen where the desktop should be....
[21:12] <jerbot> but terminal and firefox open
[21:12] <pleia2> http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1404-trusty-tahr-released may be of interest to you, there is a link to documentation about PPC fixes
[21:12] <pleia2> some may work for you
[21:13]  * genii slides pleia2 a plate of tasty cookies
[21:13]  * pleia2 cookie monster style
[21:13] <jerbot> maybe it's because I didn't  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859290 kill xscreensaver and xlockmore before upgrading last time
[21:14] <jerbot> Can't I just click "upgrade to 14.04" from 12.04's package manager gui?
[21:14] <jerbot> Cause I had done that last night, and it got further than the lubuntu 14.04 alt ppc release
[21:15] <jerbot> but I did want to do the video=ofonly and didn't get a chance to do that there, either
[21:16] <jerbot> or maybe add video=ofonly after installing the system?  Because there's no network (wired or otherwise) in the system installer, due to the b43 bug.
[21:16] <jerbot> so installing otherwise must miss some update that results in the black-screen-and-cursor bug (stack article)
[21:19] <jerbot> yeah i think i'll stick to 12.04 since the background isn't insane looking
[21:21] <jerbot> but just for shoots and ladders, I'm gonna go ahead and try 14.04 from putting in the CD, again, killing those processes
[21:23] <jerbot> i dunno probably not, actually.  I know the video=ofall switch is required, and I can't bring that up from 12.04's installer dialog
[21:24] <jerbot> Is there a way to load yaboot in terminal?
[21:27] <jerbot> that bad, huh
[21:30] <genii> jerbot: You can add that video-ofall option later to the /etc/default/grub file in the line that starts GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[21:30] <genii> ..and then sudo update-grub