[05:58] <hikiko> Hello!
[06:44] <pitti> Good morning
[06:44] <pitti> hey hikiko, how are you?
[06:53] <hikiko> hello pitti :)
[06:53] <hikiko> I am fine thanks, and you?
[06:59] <pitti> hikiko: I'm great, thanks
[07:37] <george4n> Hey guys, I'm currently looking for way to change the audio device from terminal. eg. from HDMI out to headphones out. This is needs to be in a startup script. Is there any way to make stipulate that a device must be the default sound device? Or an order of devices at least?
[07:38] <george4n> basically, HDMI out always defaults for me, I would like it that if in other devices are present, they should be default and never HDMI out
[07:47] <darkxst> george4n, probably with pacmd
[07:47] <darkxst> hey pitti, hikiko
[07:49] <pitti> hey darkxst, how are you?
[07:50] <darkxst> pitti, its too damn hot again! but otherwise good
[07:50]  * pitti tosses darkxst some snow
[07:50] <pitti> we've got plenty now :)
[07:50] <darkxst> I need more like shipping container full ;)
[07:52] <hikiko> hi darkxst
[07:59] <larsu> good morning!
[08:06] <pitti> hey larsu
[08:06] <didrocks> good morning!
[08:06] <larsu> morgen pitti!
[08:06]  * didrocks at CDG
[08:06] <larsu> bonjour didrocks!
[08:06] <didrocks> hey larsu, pitti!
[08:06] <larsu> didrocks: have a good flight!
[08:06] <didrocks> thx ;)
[08:06] <didrocks> as good as first one, I hope :p
[08:07] <didrocks> (and CDG starts to be really awesome for connecting, 10 minutes door to door)
[08:07] <larsu> wow
[08:10] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[08:10] <pitti> didrocks: ah, you're at the airport ATM?
[08:10] <pitti> didrocks: if you can, please kick off a xenial u-make run, I fixed that bug
[08:12] <didrocks> pitti: already did
[08:12] <didrocks> (before connected to IRC)
[08:12] <pitti> didrocks: \o/
[08:14] <didrocks> let's cross fingers this will work :)
[08:14] <didrocks> thanks pitti!
[08:34] <didrocks> pitti: large tests just started
[08:38] <pitti> didrocks: and has two dots now, looking good!
[08:44] <didrocks> pitti: yeah :-)
[08:52] <didrocks> ok, boarding starts soon, see you later guys!
[08:52] <larsu> enjoy!
[08:52] <didrocks> thx!
[09:00] <willcooke> morning all.  -4 out there today
[09:00] <larsu> willcooke: morning! -8 :P
[09:01] <willcooke> Ohhh!  Wow!
[09:02] <Laney> yo
[09:03] <larsu> morning Laney!
[09:03] <Laney> heeeey larsu!
[09:04] <Laney> what's up
[09:04] <larsu> sun :)
[09:04] <larsu> really nice actually
[09:04] <larsu> just very cold
[09:04] <larsu> how are you>
[09:06] <Laney> good
[09:06] <Laney> I broke continuous last night for the first time
[09:06] <Laney> happy days
[09:06] <larsu> \o/
[09:06] <larsu> the pcre patch?
[09:06] <Laney> yeah /o\
[09:06] <larsu> what did it break>
[09:06] <Laney> like 3 people reviewed it too
[09:06] <Laney> lolz
[09:06]  * larsu cannot type '?' this morning
[09:06] <larsu> haha nice
[09:06] <Laney> build with --with-pcre=internal
[09:07] <larsu> I know, but where did continous break?
[09:07] <Laney> that was the break
[09:07] <Laney> linking with the internal one
[09:07] <larsu> ah
[09:07] <Laney> the default changed to =system and i forgot to check the other I guess
[09:08] <pitti> hey Laney!
[09:08] <larsu> Laney: ah well. If people reviewed that but noone caught it......
[09:10] <Laney> larsu: all good fun, and not too hard to fix
[09:10] <Laney> maybe smcv will win and get that internal copy reviewed some time anyway
[09:10] <Laney> hey pitti!
[09:10] <Laney> how are you?
[09:10] <pitti> Laney: quite well, thanks! I think I'm sufficiently prepared for the talk and sprint today
[09:11] <pitti> how about yourself?
[09:11] <Laney> oh yeah, this starts today!
[09:11] <Laney> trying to gear up to do a bit of patch piloting
[10:05] <andyrock> morning all
[10:06] <willcooke> hey andyrock
[10:10] <larsu> hey andyrock
[10:10] <andyrock> hey willcooke larsu
[10:15] <alexarnaud> hi everybody !
[10:16] <alexarnaud> how do you do this morning ?
[10:56] <willcooke> morning alexarnaud
[11:09] <cyphermox> willcooke: morning!
[11:10] <willcooke> hey cyphermox, how goes?
[11:10] <cyphermox> willcooke: I've been looking at the airplane mode switch in gnome-control-center/unity-control-center, but looks like I might need help
[11:10] <willcooke> oki, no worries.
[11:10] <cyphermox> I can't find the switch's code in that codebase :P
[11:10] <willcooke> ha, that'll be why it doesn't work ;)
[11:11] <willcooke> cyphermox, I think seb is most familiar with that code, but's he's on a plane atm
[11:11] <willcooke> mind dropping him an email?
[11:11] <cyphermox> admittedly so far I have only grepped, but nothing came up under [Ff]light or [Aa]irplane, any ideas of something else I could look for?
[11:11] <cyphermox> sure
[11:16] <cyphermox> willcooke: or maybe I found it just now
[11:18] <willcooke> cyphermox, :)
[11:25] <willcooke> cyphermox, what was the magic keyword?
[11:29] <Laney> panels/network
[11:29] <Laney> rfkill_switch
[11:31] <cyphermox> exactly
[11:32] <cyphermox> (sorry, it's real early here, lots happening ;)
[11:35] <cyphermox> Laney: you can review my code branch?
[11:36] <Laney> it's possible
[11:42] <Laney> cyphermox: gimme a linky when you have one
[11:42] <cyphermox> yep
[13:05] <cyphermox> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/unity-control-center/rfkill-switch/+merge/283107
[13:10] <Laney> You're going to need a bug for that
[13:11] <Laney> or at least a better rationale
[13:21] <Laney> happyaron: you here?
[13:22] <Laney> happyaron: this https://launchpadlibrarian.net/234407517/ibus_1.5.5-1ubuntu3.1_1.5.5-1ubuntu4.diff.gz looks bad
[13:27] <alexarnaud> How to contact Jorge Castro ?
[13:28] <alexarnaud> Is Canonical member ?
[13:29] <alexarnaud> I see lot of thing on launhpad but nothing on IRC
[13:41]  * desrt yawns
[13:41] <desrt> happy tuesday, all
[13:42] <Laney> alexarnaud: https://launchpad.net/~jorge says his IRC nick
[13:42] <Laney> ahoy desrt
[13:42] <Laney> what is the word
[13:42] <desrt> good morning Laney
[13:43] <desrt> the word is as follows: bird.
[13:43] <desrt> how do you find yourself today?
[13:44] <Laney> i've heard that too
[13:44] <Laney> ummmmmm I'm good
[13:44] <Laney> it's a bit cold so I lit a candle and put it underneath my face
[13:44] <Laney> not sure that this is the smartest plan
[13:47] <davmor2> willcooke: last current 16.04 cd was from 17th
[13:47] <willcooke> davmor2, oki.  Probably nothing to worry about.  Laney, if you get a sec ^
[13:48] <davmor2> willcooke: Laney I assume just something stuck in proposed but thought it worth mentioning
[13:48] <Laney> I can't get on the jenkins
[13:48] <Laney> jibel usually knows more
[13:50] <Laney> oh there, just reaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy sllllllloooooooooooooooooOOOOOOoooOOoooOOOOoooOOOOOooowwwwwwwwwWWWwwwWWWw
[13:51] <Laney> looks like the tests haven't run
[13:51] <hikiko> hey question to everyone :)
[13:51] <Laney> there is in fact no image newer
[13:51] <Laney> so that is why
[13:51] <Laney> because they failed to build
[13:52] <Laney> component-mismatch
[13:52] <hikiko> I get a message that some unity components cannot connect to dbus, is there a way to restart dbus?
[13:52] <alexarnaud> hikiko: is it about AT-SPI2 daemon?
[13:53] <alexarnaud> it's possible maybe to restart dbus as I know
[13:54] <hikiko> systemctl restart dbus.service doesn't seem to solve my connection problems
[13:54] <alexarnaud> willcooke: which one decide to add Ubuntu-specific things on a package ? Is there discussions or it's tha responsability of the maintainer ?
[13:57] <hikiko> alexarnaud, you just do a merge proposal with your changes on launchpad, then the developers will review it, if it works well and doesn't cause any problems they ll approve it and then it will be merged and then it will appear in next release
[13:57] <willcooke> alexarnaud, "it depends" - if it's something the desktop team maintain then there is usually a discussion on here
[14:08] <alexarnaud> willcooke: it's the gnome-settings-daemon package
[14:08] <alexarnaud> I expect it's possible to split it in two source package
[14:08] <alexarnaud> one for the upstream
[14:08] <alexarnaud> the otherfor the specific ubuntu change
[14:09] <alexarnaud> because we want to backport Compiz into Debian
[14:09] <alexarnaud> and we think debien doesn't approuv specific change for one package in gnome-settings-daemon
[14:12] <willcooke> humm, maybe larsu or Laney can advise? ^
[14:17] <alexarnaud> willcooke: the package maintainer as I see is seb128
[14:18] <willcooke> alexarnaud, he's travelling this week, might be around a bit tomorrow, but I expect he will be out all week
[14:20] <desrt> Laney: did your face melt?
[14:21] <alexarnaud> willcooke: OK, thanks
[14:23] <davmor2> Laney: awesome I figured it would be something magical like that :)
[15:04] <Laney> desrt: it smelt weird so i got scared that my lungs were going to fill up with wax
[15:04] <Laney> the temperature was actually great
[15:04] <desrt> lol
[15:04] <desrt> i have a feeling that your lungs have some system to avoid that
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[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-19
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 19 15:30:12 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente (out), desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks (out), fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128 (out), sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
[15:30] <andyrock> o/
[15:30] <Laney> hi
[15:30] <Laney> I'm watching pi_tti's presentation
[15:30] <Laney> but still here
[15:32] <willcooke> Lots of people out
[15:32] <willcooke> lets get moveing
[15:32] <willcooke> *moving
[15:32] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:33] <andyrock> I'm rebasing my branches for startup notification on Marco's branches for launcher-devices integration
[15:33] <andyrock> I've already started to push some branches
[15:33] <andyrock> should be finished by the end of the day
[15:34] <andyrock> I'll later take a look to the branch proposed by didier/contributor
[15:34] <andyrock> and to the lockscreen suspend regression
[15:34] <andyrock> \eof
[15:34] <willcooke> cool, thanks andyrock
[15:34] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:34] <desrt> hello
[15:35] <desrt> looking through bug backlog
[15:35] <desrt> did a release yesterday
[15:35] <desrt> also figured out a good way to generate a new gpg key completely offline with yubikey for subkeys :)
[15:35] <willcooke> :D
[15:35] <desrt> did a bit more work on the gsettingschangeset branch too
[15:35] <desrt> eof
[15:35] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:35] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:35] <willcooke> Anything for us this week dgadomski?
[15:35] <dgadomski> hey, unfortunately nothing to share in the desktop area this week
[15:36] <willcooke> nw, cheers!
[15:36] <dgadomski> thanks
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:36] <FJKong> hi
[15:36] <FJKong> 1 duplicate icon show in status bar after login out and in.
[15:36] <FJKong> 2 adjust candidate words and support deleting words which user don't want to keep.
[15:36] <FJKong> 3 feature request: add dict defined by user.
[15:36] <FJKong> eof
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks FJKong, good stuff
[15:37] <willcooke> FJKong, OEM customers are interested in getting Pinyin search in the dash too.  So that might get bumped up the priority list in a few weeks time. I'll keep you posted
[15:37] <willcooke> nothing to worry about for now
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:37] <willcooke> 1. Work on fontconfig configuration for fonts-noto-cjk
[15:37] <willcooke> 2. Start to clear my SRU backlog.
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:37] <hikiko> hey
[15:38] <hikiko> I am re-writing the part of the shadow code that creates a texture from the shape of the window applies it to a quad and shows it on the screen because I realized that debugging the window/quads ordering/clipping in compiz and unity (that has a few bugs and makes my shadows appear on top of the window in some cases or in wrong size/position in some others) might take ages and it's faster to create one quad in the existing decoration window
[15:38] <hikiko> and use one pixmap texture (unity specific textures) with the shape on it.
[15:38] <hikiko> This will solve the issue because
[15:39] <hikiko> even if unity windows are given to compiz in wrong order
[15:39] <hikiko> compiz has a mechanism to draw them correctly
[15:39] <hikiko> also this change
[15:39] <hikiko>  only affects how shadows are displayed,  I still use the same algorithm (that is tested) to calculate them, so I hope it works soon.
[15:39] <hikiko> eof
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks hikiko
[15:41] <willcooke> good work!
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:41] <Laney> • Expose appstream files over rsync, per a request from LP
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ also write a script to fetch this from the server and extract it into place manually, since the automatic stuff won't work until we get it into the mirrors
[15:41] <Laney> • New glib to D + U
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ We had a mismatched pcre between build + runtime, since it got stuck in xenial-proposed. This broke some of the new tests - propose a test upstream to fix that.
[15:41] <Laney> ∘ poke at autopkgtests (pcre made intltool-update spit warnings, fix that in Debian + Ubuntu)
[15:41] <Laney> • fonts-tlwg upgrade fix which tons of people had noticed but nobody actually uploaded a fix for... also NMU that to Debian
[15:41] <Laney> • Final set of webkit2 porting for things in main. Try to ping Trevinho about a scrollbar bug which he looked at before, but not much luck there
[15:41] <Laney> • patch pilot (should be able to empty the ubuntu-desktop queue)
[15:41] <Laney> • DMB
[15:42] <Laney> • look at desktop isos not building, it's because of checkbox
[15:42] <Laney> • poke the last few things for libqca2 that was holding a load of stuff in proposed (gst parts), that cleared out
[15:42] <Laney> ⋙
[15:42] <willcooke> awesome!  thanks Laney
[15:42] <willcooke> well done on the desktop queue too
[15:42] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:44] <willcooke> hrm
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:45] <willcooke> I think maybe it's a public holiday in the US today as well?
[15:45] <qengho> Hi hi.
[15:45] <qengho> * working on crashing bugs in Unity or Chromium. LP: #1535358, #1535390
[15:45] <qengho> * merging xdg-utils still. fedback from seb, thanks.
[15:45] <qengho> EOF
[15:45] <willcooke> woo - fun bugs!
[15:45] <willcooke> thanks qengho
[15:45] <willcooke> is it a holiday today?  Internet says it's MLK day
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - fixing l10n/split build issue on LibreOffice xenial rc1 still
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - rest of the week: finish that and bump to rc2, then look into snap
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:46] <willcooke> hope the internet connection improves
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:47] <qengho> willcooke: It is, but most places celebrate it on the Monday. I did too.
[15:47] <willcooke> qengho, ah yes, makes sense
[15:47] <willcooke> thanks
[15:47] <willcooke> * Almost got the library part of liba11y-profile-manager finished, got to write a command-line utility to work with it for testing and general usage, and then its onto the integration with the installer and desktop.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Uploaded pulseaudio 7.99.2 to the Ubuntu Audio Dev pulse testing PPA, pulse 8 due any day now. http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/pulse-testing
[15:47] <willcooke> * Upstrea have responded about orca gsettings patch, so started working on some suggested changes.
[15:47] <desrt> willcooke: orca gsettings patch?  link?
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic tk
[15:47] <willcooke> no Till
[15:47] <willcooke> will come back
[15:48] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[15:48] <willcooke> - GNOME Software Ubuntu support work
[15:48] <willcooke> - Set up PPA with current GNOME Software support
[15:48] <willcooke> - Released simple-scan 3.19.4
[15:48] <willcooke> #topic any other business
[15:48] <willcooke> While we're waiting to see if Till or larsu put in an appearance, any other business?
[15:49] <larsu> willcooke: oops sorry my errand took longer than I thought (in related news, /me has glasses now)
[15:49] <willcooke> :)
[15:49] <willcooke> #topic larsu
[15:49] <larsu> I don't have much to report anyway
[15:49] <Laney> pix
[15:49] <desrt> larsu: pics or it didn't happen!
[15:49] <larsu> after we decided to use nautilus 3.14 instead of 18, I stopped working on that
[15:50] <larsu> and am working on geonames i18n now
[15:50] <larsu> that's all
[15:50] <larsu> Laney, desrt: give me a minute!
[15:50]  * larsu just hurried in
[15:50] <willcooke> thanks larsu
[15:50] <willcooke> in which case let's #endmeeting
[15:51] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 15:51:01 2016 UTC.
[15:51] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-01-19-15.30.moin.txt
[15:51] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:51] <desrt> :D
[15:51] <desrt> willcooke: do you have that link about the gsettings bug?
[15:51] <Laney> probably ask TheMuso
[15:52] <willcooke> oh, sorry desrt - missed your comment before
[15:52] <willcooke> I don't have a link, hit up TheMuso
[15:53] <desrt> i think i know where the bug is, in fact
[15:53] <desrt> i found it before along with an old dup
[15:53]  * desrt just remembering last time this was mentioned and she got curious
[16:08] <alexarnaud> hikiko: how to choose which profiles uses in Compiz ?
[16:10] <alexarnaud> hikiko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14575900/
[16:11] <alexarnaud> I use this config file and defaut profile name but all settings are stored in gsettings in the unity profile
[16:30] <alexarnaud> hikiko: In CCSM, when I have the right profile selected (here mate-accessibility). In DCONF I see all the settings on the profiles Unity.
[16:31] <alexarnaud> Always in CCSM when I switch from one profile to another (in this case mate-accessibility to Unity or Default) nothing changes.
[16:32] <alexarnaud> Everything is on version 0.9.12.0
[17:02] <Sweet5hark> hmmm, my bank just invalidated/exchanged a credit card, I never ever used because of "possible fraud".
[17:07] <Sweet5hark> Either the karsten nohl talk at 32c3 was seen by somebody from a bank and that person went "omgwtfbbq exchange all the cards!!!11!oneone!1!eleven" or "the" are having movement profiles suggesting I was close to the 32c3 premises and thus at risk.
[17:07] <Sweet5hark> dunno what scenario is scarier THB.
[17:24] <desrt> Sweet5hark: my money is on a blip in some weird heuristic algorithm
[17:24]  * willcooke keeps it all under the mattress 
[17:25]  * desrt is reminded of negative interest rates
[17:25] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: right next to the second amendment, the gold and the guns?
[17:25] <willcooke> :D
[17:25] <willcooke> I mean I invested it all in mattresses
[17:25] <desrt> Sweet5hark: you forgot his bible
[17:26] <willcooke> lol
[17:26] <willcooke> related news:  anyone want to buy a mattress?
[17:26] <desrt> lol
[17:26] <Sweet5hark> desrt: negative interest rates are yesterdays news, today we have negative oil prices http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-18/the-north-dakota-crude-oil-that-s-worth-less-than-nothing
[17:26] <Sweet5hark> bibles. indeed!
[17:27] <desrt> lemme guess: "we'll take this off your hands for a price, in order to free up your tanks to hold the good stuff"?
[17:28] <desrt> ah.  apparently the negative was just a mistake.
[17:29] <Sweet5hark> desrt: well, it says "due to the lack of pipeline capacity" aka "not even worth to transport that crap to a refinery"
[17:30] <desrt> worrying
[17:30] <desrt> when oil is approximately 'free', people have less incentive to switch to actually-free energy...
[17:31] <Sweet5hark> ... and now additional iranian oil will further dump prices.
[17:33] <Sweet5hark> desrt: well, it sure will not stay free forever: either shale oil well will get closed/bankrupt or saudi-arabia will go bankrupt because of their price dumping. somethings gotta give, this not sustainable.
[17:33] <Sweet5hark> "we live in interesting times."
[17:34] <desrt> i recently found out that canada uses approximately no saudi oil... that surprised me
[18:26] <willcooke> dinner time.  g'night all
[18:29] <alexarnaud> I have nice ivening !
[18:29] <alexarnaud> See you tomorrow :)!