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| kickinz1 | o/ | 15:59 |
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| arges | o/ | 15:59 |
| teward | o/ | 16:00 |
| rbasak | o/ | 16:00 |
| jgrimm | o/ | 16:00 |
| caribou | o/ | 16:00 |
| zul | hi | 16:01 |
| zul | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Jan 19 16:01:11 2016 UTC. The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:01 |
| zul | #action Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:01 |
| zul | was there any action points from the previous meeting | 16:02 |
| cpaelzer | late o/ | 16:02 |
| teward | thought there wasn't a previous meeting? | 16:02 |
| teward | (one was missed, I think) | 16:02 |
| zul | ok then | 16:02 |
| zul | action: Xenial Development | 16:03 |
| zul | jgrim: do you want to take this one | 16:03 |
| zul | jgrimm: ^^^ | 16:04 |
| zul | #topic Xenial Development | 16:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Xenial Development | ||
| * jgrimm notices | 16:04 | |
| zul | smoser: ^^^ | 16:05 |
| jgrimm | feature freeze on its way Feb 18 | 16:05 |
| jgrimm | mad scramble for merges, would love more help. most important packages for merge being tracked in blueprint. | 16:05 |
| jgrimm | but as this is an LTS release ideally would get currency across as much as feasibly possible | 16:06 |
| zul | cool anything else? | 16:06 |
| jgrimm | that's abou tit | 16:06 |
| jgrimm | about it. eek | 16:06 |
| teward | just for FYI awareness... | 16:06 |
| zul | #topic Assigned bugwork (rbasak) | 16:06 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Assigned bugwork (rbasak) | ||
| zul | teward: go ahead | 16:07 |
| teward | nginx 1.9.9-1ubuntu1 merged in on the 16th, after a -0ubuntu1 direct upload due to Debian being months behind | 16:07 |
| teward | (from the 6th) | 16:07 |
| rbasak | I've deferred bug work in favour of focusing on merges from the blueprint for now. | 16:07 |
| teward | just wanted to give that as an awareness / FYI, with no additional action items there :) | 16:07 |
| rbasak | Thanks teward! | 16:07 |
| jgrimm | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-x-server-core | 16:07 |
| rbasak | teward is so on the ball with nginx, I didn't think it necessary to create a blueprint item to track it. | 16:07 |
| teward | rbasak: may wish to for the post-FF ones, though I have to add to my workflow to poke the Release team for FF review, with each new version made available | 16:08 |
| teward | (especially with SRU post-release, for 1.10.x) | 16:08 |
| rbasak | Understood, thanks. | 16:08 |
| rbasak | Shall I add a work item for 1.10.x? | 16:08 |
| teward | that's the ultimate goal, but that's something to look for in March/April | 16:09 |
| teward | since nginx upstream won't be releasing 1.10.x until around that time, most likely after Xenial is released | 16:09 |
| teward | (so that would be a post-Xenial SRU as soon as that's available) | 16:09 |
| teward | rbasak: up to you whether you want the 1.9.x tasks added, for keeping it up to date with upstream/Debian | 16:09 |
| zul | anything else? | 16:10 |
| rbasak | OK, I've added a task for 1.10.x, marked as blocked. It may well be that we release without it, in which case we can translate that to an SRU bug. | 16:10 |
| zul | #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) | 16:10 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) | ||
| caribou | o/ | 16:10 |
| zul | caribou: anything? | 16:10 |
| rbasak | caribou: congratulations! | 16:10 |
| caribou | I'm almost done with the nut merge | 16:10 |
| caribou | rbasak: thanks! | 16:10 |
| jgrimm | caribou, nice! | 16:11 |
| * caribou got voted as Core Dev for those following on TV | 16:11 | |
| rbasak | caribou is our newest core dev, as of yesterday. | 16:11 |
| zul | sweet | 16:11 |
| jgrimm | caribou, congratulations!!!! | 16:11 |
| cpaelzer | gz caribou! | 16:11 |
| kickinz1 | caribou, \o/ | 16:11 |
| caribou | thanks everyone ! I'll be more effective to help out | 16:11 |
| jgrimm | indeed | 16:11 |
| arges | woo hoo | 16:12 |
| caribou | I have a question to bring up regarding HA support (clvm + dlm) | 16:12 |
| caribou | maybe a good time now or later during AOB | 16:12 |
| caribou | ? | 16:12 |
| caribou | want to discuss it now ? | 16:13 |
| * rbasak looks at zul | 16:13 | |
| zul | up to you | 16:14 |
| zul | im double booked right now | 16:14 |
| caribou | right now, clvm is in main but dlm is in Universe | 16:14 |
| caribou | libdlm3 in main though. We have people who want a supported solution to implement shared storage | 16:14 |
| caribou | jgrimm: it would be important for our next LTS to have a clear statement on how we support shared storage access with clvm | 16:15 |
| zul | agreed | 16:15 |
| rbasak | So this is a question of what we want in main? | 16:16 |
| caribou | at the same time, the dlm package has been uninstallable for two years with only one people complaining | 16:16 |
| rbasak | That's a question for Canonical I guess, so between jgrimm and kirkland. | 16:16 |
| caribou | rbasak: yes, what we want to offer in main (not only Canonical; do we want to demote clvm out of main ?) | 16:16 |
| caribou | rbasak: but I agree, I can take it with jgrimm & Dustin | 16:17 |
| jgrimm | caribou, yes please. | 16:17 |
| caribou | other than that I'm good, nothing else | 16:18 |
| caribou | thanks again ! | 16:18 |
| zul | ok moving on | 16:18 |
| zul | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara) | 16:18 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara) | ||
| zul | he aint here... | 16:19 |
| zul | anyone have anything? | 16:19 |
| teward | there's one action item on there | 16:19 |
| teward | underneath there, though if matsubara's not here maybe it needs to be delayed to next meeting? | 16:19 |
| zul | fine with me :) | 16:19 |
| teward | thoughts from the others on the team, whether we push the QA issue to next meeting, due to Matsubara's absense? | 16:19 |
| teward | absence* | 16:19 |
| teward | oop there's matsubara, maybe | 16:20 |
| matsubara | sorry, ISP issues | 16:20 |
| rbasak | Did Phill's subsequent email to the ML retract this agenda point? That wasn't clear to me. Is he here? | 16:20 |
| phillw | o/ | 16:20 |
| matsubara | I was trying to connect back to join the meeting | 16:20 |
| rbasak | phillw: o/ | 16:21 |
| matsubara | just to clarify the issue further, we do have smoke tests (automated) for i386 running. I think phillw concerns were about the iso tracker manual tests (that's from what I understand about the issue) | 16:21 |
| rbasak | phillw: did you still want to raise this with matsubara? | 16:21 |
| matsubara | not sure at what point we are at the meeting | 16:21 |
| phillw | yeah, I can arrange for the manual tests on the iso tracker to be arried out periodically if the team maintains that version. | 16:22 |
| rbasak | " 32-bit QA and Support Discussion (phillw) " is where I think we are. | 16:22 |
| phillw | *carried | 16:22 |
| matsubara | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/Smoke%20Testing/ | 16:22 |
| matsubara | that shows that we do have i386 automated tests for trusty isos | 16:23 |
| matsubara | and it's in my todo list to move those to our https://server-team-jenkins.canonical.com/ instance and of course update them to include xenial tests as well | 16:23 |
| hggdh | just a question: we have not been smoke-testing Xenial on i386? | 16:24 |
| matsubara | hggdh, for some reason they haven't run for a long time, I'll look into it. I've been bad at monitoring those tests runs | 16:26 |
| zul | anything else? | 16:26 |
| hggdh | one more pont | 16:26 |
| hggdh | point* | 16:26 |
| hggdh | I ould like to know if we are going to keep on doing i386 tests; also, are we going to re-introduce manual testing, or is the team's opinion that the automated smoke tests are enough? | 16:27 |
| matsubara | I think the automated tests we have are enough and cover the main workflows with server installs | 16:29 |
| jgrimm | matsubara, i'd like to understand what the differences are tho | 16:29 |
| rbasak | Shall we defer this, and then matsubara can maybe give us a full answer next week? | 16:30 |
| jgrimm | between automated smoke vs manual tests, and where/when the manual tests have historically been run. seems like we need to come back next week with a bit more data and opinion. | 16:30 |
| jgrimm | rbasak, agreed | 16:30 |
| rbasak | zul: an action for matsubara please? | 16:30 |
| zul | rbasak: for? | 16:30 |
| rbasak | matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 | 16:31 |
| hggdh | a more knowledge-based response to jgrimm's points | 16:31 |
| zul | action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 | 16:31 |
| matsubara | jgrimm, I think mainly process wise but I might be wrong. the only mandatory ones in the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110651/testcases/1403/results are basically covered by the https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/trusty-server-amd64-smoke-lvm/ for example | 16:31 |
| zul | #action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 | 16:31 |
| meetingology | ACTION: : Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 | 16:31 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 16:31 |
| matsubara | but that's fine I can take that action and explaing further | 16:31 |
| zul | anything else? | 16:31 |
| jgrimm | thank you matsubara | 16:31 |
| matsubara | thanks zul, rbasak, jgrimm, teward and phillw | 16:32 |
| hggdh | phillw: this was your point. No comments? | 16:32 |
| matsubara | oh and hggdh too | 16:32 |
| hggdh | heh | 16:32 |
| zul | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) | 16:32 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) | ||
| hggdh | matsubara: I am still alive :-) | 16:32 |
| matsubara | nice to see you around hggdh, long time, no talk! | 16:32 |
| zul | arges: i know you are around | 16:32 |
| phillw | i will put in diary to be here next meeting, Thanks, | 16:32 |
| arges | zul: nothing here | 16:32 |
| arges | .. | 16:32 |
| arges | oh | 16:32 |
| arges | doing the libvirt merge | 16:33 |
| arges | . | 16:33 |
| hggdh | matsubara: indeed | 16:33 |
| kickinz1 | arges, I had some kernel traces when running schroot on top of btrfs with a bcache backend. Di you see the bug? | 16:33 |
| zul | arges: ok cool | 16:33 |
| arges | kickinz1: nope whats the bug#? | 16:33 |
| zul | anything for arges? | 16:34 |
| kickinz1 | arge https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1532145 | 16:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1532145 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel Panic wrt btrfs while sbuild/schroot" [High,Confirmed] | 16:34 |
| arges | kickinz1: ok i'll tag it so we work on it | 16:34 |
| arges | thanks | 16:34 |
| kickinz1 | arges, np | 16:34 |
| zul | #topic Upcoming Call For Papers | 16:34 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Upcoming Call For Papers | ||
| zul | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Server Team Events | ||
| zul | there is something in california this week and fossdem is next week (ill be there) | 16:35 |
| zul | anyting else? | 16:35 |
| zul | if not | 16:36 |
| zul | #topic Open Discussion | 16:36 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion | ||
| zul | anything to bring up | 16:36 |
| zul | if not | 16:36 |
| zul | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 16:36:47 2016 UTC. | 16:36 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-19-16.01.moin.txt | 16:36 |
| zul | thanks | 16:36 |
| kickinz1 | Thanks zul. | 16:37 |
| jgrimm | thanks zul | 16:40 |
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