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zul#startmeeting16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jan 19 16:01:11 2016 UTC.  The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick16:01
zul#action Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:01
meetingologyACTION: Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:01
zulwas there any action points from the previous meeting16:02
cpaelzerlate o/16:02
tewardthought there wasn't a previous meeting?16:02
teward(one was missed, I think)16:02
zulok then16:02
zulaction: Xenial Development16:03
zuljgrim: do you want to take this one16:03
zuljgrimm: ^^^16:04
zul#topic  Xenial Development16:04
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* jgrimm notices16:04
zulsmoser: ^^^16:05
jgrimmfeature freeze on its way Feb 1816:05
jgrimmmad scramble for merges, would love more help. most important packages for merge being tracked in blueprint.16:05
jgrimmbut as this is an LTS release ideally would get currency across as much as feasibly possible16:06
zulcool anything else?16:06
jgrimmthat's abou tit16:06
jgrimmabout it. eek16:06
tewardjust for FYI awareness...16:06
zul#topic Assigned bugwork (rbasak)16:06
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zulteward: go ahead16:07
tewardnginx 1.9.9-1ubuntu1 merged in on the 16th, after a -0ubuntu1 direct upload due to Debian being months behind16:07
teward(from the 6th)16:07
rbasakI've deferred bug work in favour of focusing on merges from the blueprint for now.16:07
tewardjust wanted to give that as an awareness / FYI, with no additional action items there :)16:07
rbasakThanks teward!16:07
jgrimmhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-x-server-core16:07
rbasakteward is so on the ball with nginx, I didn't think it necessary to create a blueprint item to track it.16:07
tewardrbasak: may wish to for the post-FF ones, though I have to add to my workflow to poke the Release team for FF review, with each new version made available16:08
teward(especially with SRU post-release, for 1.10.x)16:08
rbasakUnderstood, thanks.16:08
rbasakShall I add a work item for 1.10.x?16:08
tewardthat's the ultimate goal, but that's something to look for in March/April16:09
tewardsince nginx upstream won't be releasing 1.10.x until around that time, most likely after Xenial is released16:09
teward(so that would be a post-Xenial SRU as soon as that's available)16:09
tewardrbasak: up to you whether you want the 1.9.x tasks added, for keeping it up to date with upstream/Debian16:09
zulanything else?16:10
rbasakOK, I've added a task for 1.10.x, marked as blocked. It may well be that we release without it, in which case we can translate that to an SRU bug.16:10
zul#topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)16:10
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caribouo/16:10
zulcaribou: anything?16:10
rbasakcaribou: congratulations!16:10
caribouI'm almost done with the nut merge16:10
caribourbasak: thanks!16:10
jgrimmcaribou, nice!16:11
* caribou got voted as Core Dev for those following on TV16:11
rbasakcaribou is our newest core dev, as of yesterday.16:11
zulsweet16:11
jgrimmcaribou, congratulations!!!!16:11
cpaelzergz caribou!16:11
kickinz1caribou, \o/16:11
caribouthanks everyone ! I'll be more effective to help out16:11
jgrimmindeed16:11
argeswoo hoo16:12
caribouI have a question to bring up regarding HA support (clvm + dlm)16:12
cariboumaybe a good time now or later during AOB16:12
caribou?16:12
caribouwant to discuss it now ?16:13
* rbasak looks at zul16:13
zulup to you16:14
zulim double booked right now16:14
caribouright now, clvm is in main but dlm is in Universe16:14
cariboulibdlm3 in main though. We have people who want a supported solution to implement shared storage16:14
cariboujgrimm: it would be important for our next LTS to have a clear statement on how we support shared storage access with clvm16:15
zulagreed16:15
rbasakSo this is a question of what we want in main?16:16
caribouat the same time, the dlm package has been uninstallable for two years with only one people complaining16:16
rbasakThat's a question for Canonical I guess, so between jgrimm and kirkland.16:16
caribourbasak: yes, what we want to offer in main (not only Canonical; do we want to demote clvm out of main ?)16:16
caribourbasak: but I agree, I can take it with jgrimm & Dustin16:17
jgrimmcaribou, yes please.16:17
caribouother than that I'm good, nothing else16:18
caribouthanks again !16:18
zulok moving on16:18
zul#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)16:18
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zulhe aint here...16:19
zulanyone have anything?16:19
tewardthere's one action item on there16:19
tewardunderneath there, though if matsubara's not here maybe it needs to be delayed to next meeting?16:19
zulfine with me :)16:19
tewardthoughts from the others on the team, whether we push the QA issue to next meeting, due to Matsubara's absense?16:19
tewardabsence*16:19
tewardoop there's matsubara, maybe16:20
matsubarasorry, ISP issues16:20
rbasakDid Phill's subsequent email to the ML retract this agenda point? That wasn't clear to me. Is he here?16:20
phillwo/16:20
matsubaraI was trying to connect back to join the meeting16:20
rbasakphillw: o/16:21
matsubarajust to clarify the issue further, we do have smoke tests (automated) for i386 running. I think phillw concerns were about the iso tracker manual tests (that's from what I understand about the issue)16:21
rbasakphillw: did you still want to raise this with matsubara?16:21
matsubaranot sure at what point we are at the meeting16:21
phillwyeah, I can arrange for the manual tests on the iso tracker to be arried out periodically if the team maintains that version.16:22
rbasak"    32-bit QA and Support Discussion (phillw) " is where I think we are.16:22
phillw*carried16:22
matsubarahttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/Smoke%20Testing/16:22
matsubarathat shows that we do have i386 automated tests for trusty isos16:23
matsubaraand it's in my todo list to move those to our https://server-team-jenkins.canonical.com/ instance and of course update them to include xenial tests as well16:23
hggdhjust a question: we have not been smoke-testing Xenial on i386?16:24
matsubarahggdh, for some reason they haven't run for a long time, I'll look into it. I've been bad at monitoring those tests runs16:26
zulanything else?16:26
hggdhone more pont16:26
hggdhpoint*16:26
hggdhI ould like to know if we are going to keep on doing i386 tests; also, are we going to re-introduce manual testing, or is the team's opinion that the automated smoke tests are enough?16:27
matsubaraI think the automated tests we have are enough and cover the main workflows with server installs16:29
jgrimmmatsubara, i'd like to understand what the differences are tho16:29
rbasakShall we defer this, and then matsubara can maybe give us a full answer next week?16:30
jgrimmbetween automated smoke vs manual tests, and where/when the manual tests have historically been run.  seems like we need to come back next week with a bit more data and opinion.16:30
jgrimmrbasak, agreed16:30
rbasakzul: an action for matsubara please?16:30
zulrbasak: for?16:30
rbasakmatsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i38616:31
hggdha more knowledge-based response to jgrimm's points16:31
zulaction: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i38616:31
matsubarajgrimm, I think mainly process wise but I might be wrong. the only mandatory ones in the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110651/testcases/1403/results are basically covered by the https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/trusty-server-amd64-smoke-lvm/ for example16:31
zul#action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i38616:31
meetingologyACTION: : Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i38616:31
rbasakThanks!16:31
matsubarabut that's fine I can take that action and explaing further16:31
zulanything else?16:31
jgrimmthank you matsubara16:31
matsubarathanks zul, rbasak, jgrimm, teward and phillw16:32
hggdhphillw: this was your point. No comments?16:32
matsubaraoh and hggdh too16:32
hggdhheh16:32
zul#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)16:32
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hggdhmatsubara: I am still alive :-)16:32
matsubaranice to see you around hggdh, long time, no talk!16:32
zularges: i know you are around16:32
phillwi will put in diary to be here next meeting, Thanks,16:32
argeszul: nothing here16:32
arges..16:32
argesoh16:32
argesdoing the libvirt merge16:33
arges.16:33
hggdhmatsubara: indeed16:33
kickinz1arges, I had some kernel traces when running schroot on top of btrfs with a bcache backend. Di you see the bug?16:33
zularges: ok cool16:33
argeskickinz1: nope whats the bug#?16:33
zulanything for arges?16:34
kickinz1arge https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153214516:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1532145 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel Panic wrt btrfs while sbuild/schroot" [High,Confirmed]16:34
argeskickinz1: ok i'll tag it so we work on it16:34
argesthanks16:34
kickinz1arges, np16:34
zul#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:34
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zul#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:35
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zulthere is something in california this week and fossdem is next week (ill be there)16:35
zulanyting else?16:35
zulif not16:36
zul#topic Open Discussion16:36
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zulanything to bring up16:36
zulif not16:36
zul#endmeeting16:36
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jan 19 16:36:47 2016 UTC.16:36
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zulthanks16:36
kickinz1Thanks zul.16:37
jgrimmthanks zul16:40
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