=== MerryChristmas is now known as benonsftware === benonsftware is now known as benonsoftware === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_afk === cpaelzer_afk is now known as cpaelzer [15:59] o/ [15:59] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:01] hi [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Tue Jan 19 16:01:11 2016 UTC. The chair is zul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:01] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:01] #action Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:01] ACTION: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:02] was there any action points from the previous meeting [16:02] late o/ [16:02] thought there wasn't a previous meeting? [16:02] (one was missed, I think) [16:02] ok then [16:03] action: Xenial Development [16:03] jgrim: do you want to take this one [16:04] jgrimm: ^^^ [16:04] #topic Xenial Development === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Xenial Development [16:04] * jgrimm notices [16:05] smoser: ^^^ [16:05] feature freeze on its way Feb 18 [16:05] mad scramble for merges, would love more help. most important packages for merge being tracked in blueprint. [16:06] but as this is an LTS release ideally would get currency across as much as feasibly possible [16:06] cool anything else? [16:06] that's abou tit [16:06] about it. eek [16:06] just for FYI awareness... [16:06] #topic Assigned bugwork (rbasak) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Assigned bugwork (rbasak) [16:07] teward: go ahead [16:07] nginx 1.9.9-1ubuntu1 merged in on the 16th, after a -0ubuntu1 direct upload due to Debian being months behind [16:07] (from the 6th) [16:07] I've deferred bug work in favour of focusing on merges from the blueprint for now. [16:07] just wanted to give that as an awareness / FYI, with no additional action items there :) [16:07] Thanks teward! [16:07] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-x-server-core [16:07] teward is so on the ball with nginx, I didn't think it necessary to create a blueprint item to track it. [16:08] rbasak: may wish to for the post-FF ones, though I have to add to my workflow to poke the Release team for FF review, with each new version made available [16:08] (especially with SRU post-release, for 1.10.x) [16:08] Understood, thanks. [16:08] Shall I add a work item for 1.10.x? [16:09] that's the ultimate goal, but that's something to look for in March/April [16:09] since nginx upstream won't be releasing 1.10.x until around that time, most likely after Xenial is released [16:09] (so that would be a post-Xenial SRU as soon as that's available) [16:09] rbasak: up to you whether you want the 1.9.x tasks added, for keeping it up to date with upstream/Debian [16:10] anything else? [16:10] OK, I've added a task for 1.10.x, marked as blocked. It may well be that we release without it, in which case we can translate that to an SRU bug. [16:10] #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) [16:10] o/ [16:10] caribou: anything? [16:10] caribou: congratulations! [16:10] I'm almost done with the nut merge [16:10] rbasak: thanks! [16:11] caribou, nice! [16:11] * caribou got voted as Core Dev for those following on TV [16:11] caribou is our newest core dev, as of yesterday. [16:11] sweet [16:11] caribou, congratulations!!!! [16:11] gz caribou! [16:11] caribou, \o/ [16:11] thanks everyone ! I'll be more effective to help out [16:11] indeed [16:12] woo hoo [16:12] I have a question to bring up regarding HA support (clvm + dlm) [16:12] maybe a good time now or later during AOB [16:12] ? [16:13] want to discuss it now ? [16:13] * rbasak looks at zul [16:14] up to you [16:14] im double booked right now [16:14] right now, clvm is in main but dlm is in Universe [16:14] libdlm3 in main though. We have people who want a supported solution to implement shared storage [16:15] jgrimm: it would be important for our next LTS to have a clear statement on how we support shared storage access with clvm [16:15] agreed [16:16] So this is a question of what we want in main? [16:16] at the same time, the dlm package has been uninstallable for two years with only one people complaining [16:16] That's a question for Canonical I guess, so between jgrimm and kirkland. [16:16] rbasak: yes, what we want to offer in main (not only Canonical; do we want to demote clvm out of main ?) [16:17] rbasak: but I agree, I can take it with jgrimm & Dustin [16:17] caribou, yes please. [16:18] other than that I'm good, nothing else [16:18] thanks again ! [16:18] ok moving on [16:18] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara) [16:19] he aint here... [16:19] anyone have anything? [16:19] there's one action item on there [16:19] underneath there, though if matsubara's not here maybe it needs to be delayed to next meeting? [16:19] fine with me :) [16:19] thoughts from the others on the team, whether we push the QA issue to next meeting, due to Matsubara's absense? [16:19] absence* [16:20] oop there's matsubara, maybe [16:20] sorry, ISP issues [16:20] Did Phill's subsequent email to the ML retract this agenda point? That wasn't clear to me. Is he here? [16:20] o/ [16:20] I was trying to connect back to join the meeting [16:21] phillw: o/ [16:21] just to clarify the issue further, we do have smoke tests (automated) for i386 running. I think phillw concerns were about the iso tracker manual tests (that's from what I understand about the issue) [16:21] phillw: did you still want to raise this with matsubara? [16:21] not sure at what point we are at the meeting [16:22] yeah, I can arrange for the manual tests on the iso tracker to be arried out periodically if the team maintains that version. [16:22] " 32-bit QA and Support Discussion (phillw) " is where I think we are. [16:22] *carried [16:22] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/Smoke%20Testing/ [16:23] that shows that we do have i386 automated tests for trusty isos [16:23] and it's in my todo list to move those to our https://server-team-jenkins.canonical.com/ instance and of course update them to include xenial tests as well [16:24] just a question: we have not been smoke-testing Xenial on i386? [16:26] hggdh, for some reason they haven't run for a long time, I'll look into it. I've been bad at monitoring those tests runs [16:26] anything else? [16:26] one more pont [16:26] point* [16:27] I ould like to know if we are going to keep on doing i386 tests; also, are we going to re-introduce manual testing, or is the team's opinion that the automated smoke tests are enough? [16:29] I think the automated tests we have are enough and cover the main workflows with server installs [16:29] matsubara, i'd like to understand what the differences are tho [16:30] Shall we defer this, and then matsubara can maybe give us a full answer next week? [16:30] between automated smoke vs manual tests, and where/when the manual tests have historically been run. seems like we need to come back next week with a bit more data and opinion. [16:30] rbasak, agreed [16:30] zul: an action for matsubara please? [16:30] rbasak: for? [16:31] matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 [16:31] a more knowledge-based response to jgrimm's points [16:31] action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 [16:31] jgrimm, I think mainly process wise but I might be wrong. the only mandatory ones in the ISO tracker http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/110651/testcases/1403/results are basically covered by the https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/trusty-server-amd64-smoke-lvm/ for example [16:31] #action: Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 [16:31] ACTION: : Matsubara to research and answer whether we want to resume manual testing for i386 [16:31] Thanks! [16:31] but that's fine I can take that action and explaing further [16:31] anything else? [16:31] thank you matsubara [16:32] thanks zul, rbasak, jgrimm, teward and phillw [16:32] phillw: this was your point. No comments? [16:32] oh and hggdh too [16:32] heh [16:32] #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges) [16:32] matsubara: I am still alive :-) [16:32] nice to see you around hggdh, long time, no talk! [16:32] arges: i know you are around [16:32] i will put in diary to be here next meeting, Thanks, [16:32] zul: nothing here [16:32] .. [16:32] oh [16:33] doing the libvirt merge [16:33] . [16:33] matsubara: indeed [16:33] arges, I had some kernel traces when running schroot on top of btrfs with a bcache backend. Di you see the bug? [16:33] arges: ok cool [16:33] kickinz1: nope whats the bug#? [16:34] anything for arges? [16:34] arge https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1532145 [16:34] Launchpad bug 1532145 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel Panic wrt btrfs while sbuild/schroot" [High,Confirmed] [16:34] kickinz1: ok i'll tag it so we work on it [16:34] thanks [16:34] arges, np [16:34] #topic Upcoming Call For Papers === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Upcoming Call For Papers [16:35] #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:35] there is something in california this week and fossdem is next week (ill be there) [16:35] anyting else? [16:36] if not [16:36] #topic Open Discussion === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion [16:36] anything to bring up [16:36] if not [16:36] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:36] Meeting ended Tue Jan 19 16:36:47 2016 UTC. [16:36] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-19-16.01.moin.txt [16:36] thanks [16:37] Thanks zul. [16:40] thanks zul === essembe is now known as sbeattie === cpaelzer is now known as cpaelzer_afk === cpaelzer_afk is now known as cpaelzer === Guest51217 is now known as med_