[00:00] <matthewp2> hey it says this what do i do http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html it says download sdk for windows?
[00:00] <bob2017> so the latest is, i can boot into text.  *once* i was able to get the monitors on.  i don’t remember what i did, except i unplugged two then plugged htem in one at a time.
[00:01] <bob2017> k1rk: the logs show that, with an xorg.conf, two of the three monitors get detected.  actually, the second gets detected twice.
[00:01] <k1l> matthewp2: so you are on windows?
[00:01] <K1rk> Sounds like fun bob2017
[00:01] <matthewp2> no
[00:01] <bob2017> k1rk: any ideas?
[00:01] <bob2017> k1rk: would you look at logs?
[00:01] <matthewp2> ubuntu mate
[00:01] <tomOfFacebook> Hey guys I just installed ubuntu on this really old computer... Some issues: The computer is extremely slow (i installed 32 bit because I have less than 2 gb of memory), the wallpaper is "glichy", and I think changing the compter from unity might speed the computer up a little
[00:02] <matthewp2> hey l1;
[00:02] <matthewp2> hey k1l
[00:02] <k1l> tomOfFacebook: yes, Lubuntu is the better choice. its made for old and slow hardware
[00:02] <matthewp2> im on ubuntu mate but it says doenload sdk for windows what do i do
[00:02] <k1l> tomOfFacebook: and amount of ram got nothing to do with 32/64bit. if your cpu can go 64bit use that
[00:03] <k1l> matthewp2: choose other downloads on that site
[00:03] <tomOfFacebook> k1l: would I have access to the same kind of repo? I need to be able to install some of fax software on lubuntu
[00:03] <k1l> tomOfFacebook: yes. its "just" a more lightweight desktop (and some other settings for old hardware) but the same packages
[00:04] <matthewp2> ok
[00:04] <bob2017> k1rk: i feel like i’m super close at this point… if i could just figure out what i did that one time
[00:04] <matthewp2> k
[00:04] <tomOfFacebook> k1l: thanks
[00:04] <nicomachus> bob2017: 90% sure you're tagging the wrong user.
[00:04] <bob2017> nicomachus: why?
[00:04] <k1l> nicomachus: no, there is a K1rk :)
[00:05] <nicomachus> k1l: I know... but he was asking for you the other day.
[00:06] <EriC^^> lol
[00:07] <EriC^^> grep -r k1rk .xchat2
[00:07] <EriC^^> is hilarious
[00:07] <nicomachus> actually... looking at the logs, he was asking for K1rk. my fault, ignore me.
[00:07] <bob2017> grep -r k1rk .xchat2
[00:07] <bob2017> not real hilarious
[00:07] <EriC^^> nicomachus: yeah but k1rk never, ever has spoken in this channel
[00:07] <K1rk> Who's k1rk?
[00:08] <K1rk> ;)
[00:08] <K1rk> Yeah man I can take a look at your logs bob2017
[00:08] <bob2017> what am i missing here?
[00:08] <EriC^^> oh
[00:08] <bob2017> cool hwhich ones and how should i get them to you?
[00:08] <EriC^^> grep -r doesn't check for case insensitive, i thought k1rk never spoke here and it's like a million lines of you thinking it's k1l
[00:09] <K1rk> lol
[00:09] <K1rk> bob2017, am I looking at logs from when it worked or didn't work?
[00:10] <TBotNik> All, Dropbox installed different directories on last 4 installs.  Trying to find an accurate way of determining which directory is actually active as need to process some files from there.  Any ideas/suggestions?
[00:11] <bob2017> k1rk: didn’t work.  the most recent set is when i used an xorg.conf manually made for triple-head.  it detected two monitors (both DisplayPort monitors), but instead of detecting the DVI, it detected the seond displayport twice
[00:12] <k1l> TBotNik: directories for what? the user directories are in the home folder in .dropbox
[00:12] <k1l> TBotNik: or "Dropbox" in user home for the files
[00:13] <matthewp2> hey
[00:14] <matthewp2> where can i get help about running skyos on ubuntu
[00:15] <K1rk> bob2017, is it possible your gpu doesn't support 3 monitors?
[00:15] <K1rk> There are some that have 3 or 4 ports but don't support all of them being used at once.
[00:15] <bazhang> matthewp2, what is skyos
[00:15] <k1l> matthewp2: its dead. and you cant run it on arm. and you cant run a OS on ubuntu. dont do that on the slow rpi
[00:15] <matthewp2> where can i get help about runninging windows programs in ubuntu or even mac prohrams in ubuntu or ecan anddroid aps in ubuntu
[00:15] <bob2017> k1rk: unlikely, since I’m using it with 3 on mac os x now.  also, i had it working with 3 on ubuntu for a while on Saturday.  i just can’t remember how i did that.
[00:15] <Kwiatuszyn> Hi
[00:16] <k1l> matthewp2: better focus on running ubuntu programs on ubuntu.
[00:16] <K1rk> bob2017, was it configuration?
[00:16] <bob2017> huh?
[00:16] <Kwiatuszyn> Can you help me ?
[00:16] <K1rk> !help Kwiatuszyn
[00:16] <nicomachus> Kwiatuszyn: maybe, if you tell us what you need help with.
[00:16] <Kwiatuszyn> :)
[00:16] <K1rk> Oh I thought the bot did that lol
[00:17] <K1rk> nicomachus, for a second I thought you were the bot haha
[00:17] <RAM_OR_ROM> how reliable is shred command for wiping whole ssd?
[00:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !wine | matthewp2
[00:17] <matthewp2> i heard of wine emulator i like it'
[00:17] <nicomachus> K1rk: it's !ask
[00:17] <matthewp2> i know i used it
[00:19] <matthewp2> hey
[00:19] <matthewp2> can u install ubuntu on raspberry pi 2 and not ubunntu mate
[00:20] <bob2017> k1rk: actually, i do have syslog from the one time it worked, just not xorg logs
[00:21] <rom1504> matthewp2: try ubunnntu
[00:21] <matthewp2> k
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> matthewp2: You can install Snappy Ubuntu IoT Core onto it
[00:22] <matthewp2> ubunnntu or Snappy Ubuntu IoT Core
[00:23] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk nicomachus I have a problem with my webcam. It only works in Cheese when i change preferences and set a correct resolution but when i try talk using a webcam image is frozen. I don't know how can i fit it.
[00:25] <matthewp2> hey
[00:25] <matthewp2> hey
[00:25] <matthewp2> hey
[00:26] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk: Are you there ?
[00:26] <rom1504> matthewp2: the best is ubunnnnnnnnnnntu, but if you add even more n, you create a new unique and better operating system
[00:26] <jerbot> What's the screen where you type "install" called, when you're installing the system?
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuńńńńńńńńńńńńńńtu
[00:26] <SonikkuAmerica> jerbot: The program is called "ubiquity."
[00:26] <K1rk> Kwiatuszyn, what's the webcam?
[00:27] <K1rk> bob2017, unfortunately probably not much would be logged when it was working properly lol
[00:27] <matthewp2> which one
[00:27] <jerbot> SonikkuAmerica: Is it really, I can't tell if you're being serious  after ubunnnnnnntu.
[00:28] <bob2017> k1rk: you are correct :p i had hoped perhaps logs could be compared to each other to see exactly what failed, but that looks hard.  one of the interesting things is, from searching for radeon and fglrx, i think i had just uninstalled fglrx and switched back to radeon and rebooted when it worked
[00:28] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk Crystal Eye. It is in acer aspire 5930.
[00:28] <k1l> jerbot: ubiquity is the installer from ubuntu
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> jerbot: yes, I was being serious about that. (as k1l just confirmed)
[00:29] <matthewjp2> ow u install .tar.gz files on ubuntu mate
[00:30] <matthewjp2> how
[00:30] <k1l> matthewjp2: read the readme or install or the page where you got that file from.
[00:30] <K1rk> Kwiatuszyn, ugh good luck lol
[00:30] <matthewjp2> android sdk
[00:30] <TBotNik> k1l: Not on these machines they are on /home/files/Dropbox or something like that!  When the re-installs kicked off got things like /home/files/Dropbox/Dropbox/Dropbox
[00:30] <K1rk> Kwiatuszyn, I've had only a small handful of experiences with Acer webcams in the past, but my experience with them is they are knockoffs with weird drivers
[00:31] <k1l> TBotNik: so the user is "files"?
[00:31] <matthewjp2> hey how u install android ide .tar.gz
[00:31] <K1rk> Kwiatuszyn, I was trying to help a friend get one working on Windows and we couldn't find the proper drivers.
[00:31] <matthewjp2> wht c,d
[00:31] <matthewjp2> wht cmd
[00:31] <matthewjp2> hey
[00:31] <matthewjp2> what command
[00:31] <k1l> matthewjp2: last time now. stop beeing annoying or you will be banned
[00:32] <matthewjp2> ok?
[00:32] <TBotNik> k1l: This Admin will not let anyone store files in /home/$user/  all must be in /home/files
[00:32] <k1l> matthewjp2: what about you read the instructions? where is the point if i read the instructions and copy and paste them line by line and you need to read them again?
[00:32] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Um, is "files" a user on the machine?
[00:32] <k1l> TBotNik: so that is a special setup from that admin.
[00:33] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk yeah i know. I try using this webcam in Windows but there was only black screen.
[00:33] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: No just a designated dir for "files"
[00:33] <TBotNik> k1l: Yup
[00:34] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Oh, OK. Yeah, you may want to talk to your sysadmin about that. There must be a reason.
[00:34] <K1rk> Kwiatuszyn, my suggestion is to run "lsusb" first and paste us the relevant line of output, that should have the device identifier for your webcam.
[00:34] <svetlana> TBotNik: it's up to dropbox, ubuntu has no say in how dropbox works or is configured ( apart from dropbox being proprietary and potentially spying on you ) you could read dropbox config to find it out
[00:35] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk maybe is a way to set the webcam resolution in skype. Do you know one ?
[00:35] <svetlana> TBotNik, «right click the dropbox tray icon and click Preferences, hit the Advanced-Tab and change the Dropbox Location to the new location.» -- Stefan  cc by-sa 3.0 http://askubuntu.com/a/206522
[00:35] <adrian_1908> hello. I'm trying to build "mpv" from source to help test a patch but the config script complains about an outdated development version of libav. It seems the 15.10 package is so old, that it's not even listen on the website anymore, is that possible or am I misreading this?
[00:36] <k1l> matthewjp2: go to the site where you downloaded that software and click "installing the sdk" on the left side.
[00:36] <bazhang> !info mpv
[00:36] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Anyway regardless of where Dbox has installer issues, so when you go to install, and not the first run, you can not point it to your existing Dbox dir.  Therefore multi dirs and need to find, with my PHP script, which is actually the active one!  Any ideas? symlink doesn't work as all the dirs are symlinks!
[00:37] <bazhang> what version adrian_1908
[00:37] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c45:6300 Microdia PC Microscope camera
[00:37] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Is that Dropbox or what? What is Dbox?
[00:37] <TBotNik> svetlana: No can not be a manual process, must be in script.  I'm writing it in PHP but can call BASH if needed!
[00:37] <TBotNik> SonikkuAmerica: Sorry DBOX is abbrev
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: Ah.
[00:38] <welovfree> the Ubuntu vm is working great with 2gb or ram and 2 cores!!
[00:38] <adrian_1908> bazhang: "Unable to find development files for some of the required FFmpeg/Libav libraries. You need at least FFmpeg 2.4 or Libav 11. Aborting" It seems that libav development packages are version 7?!
[00:38] <bazhang> adrian_1908, what version of mpv did you need
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> TBotNik: If all the dirs are symlinks, can you find out with [ ls -l ] where they point to?
[00:39] <svetlana> TBotNik: steal algorithm from http://dl.dropbox.com/u/340607/pyDropboxValues.py?dl=1 to get the value of the dropbox dir in your script
[00:40] <adrian_1908> bazhang: Well, as I mentioned I'm testing a patch, so it's whatever version that is, i.e. something fairly new.
[00:40] <matthewjp2> hey
[00:40] <artois> adrian_1908: funny how the sillier choice always has inflated versions :p
[00:40] <TBotNik> svetlana: Your suggestions on change location do not work and when you change the config then you really have problems.  We have an open ticket for this resolution open now for 6 months, but they do nothing but talk!
[00:41] <bazhang> adrian_1908, just ballpark what version, I am about to head out, so please ask the channel If I am unable to respond
[00:41] <Kwiatuszyn> K1rk Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0c45:6300 Microdia PC Microscope camera
[00:41] <matthewjp2> it says to get java but it gives me this error matplayzmcpe@matplayzmcpe-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[00:41] <matthewjp2> Reading package lists... Done
[00:41] <matthewjp2> Building dependency tree
[00:41] <matthewjp2> Reading state information... Done
[00:41] <matthewjp2> Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:41] <matthewjp2> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:41] <matthewjp2> is only available from another source
[00:41] <matthewjp2> However the following packages replace it:
[00:41] <matthewjp2>   apt
[00:41] <matthewjp2> E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate
[00:42] <matthewjp2> srry
[00:42] <shibboleth> what is the current state of 16.04 dailies? plug and pray?
[00:43] <k1l> shibboleth: they are in development. see #ubuntu+1
[00:43] <adrian_1908> bazhang: sorry, I have no idea. Unless I can find it in some source file I simply don't know. The stable Ubuntu package might be many versions behind for all I know.
[00:43] <TBotNik> svetlana: Are you PHP friendly?
[00:44] <matthewjp2> hey
[00:44] <matthewjp2> i need more help
[00:44] <artois> neat
[00:44] <matthewjp2> hey
[00:45] <matthewjp2> i need more help
[00:45] <TBotNik> svetlana: Just wondering as I tend to have problems, that don't match with "HOWTOs" when it comes to executing external scripts from PHP!
[00:45] <matthewjp2> hey
[00:46] <k1l> matthewjp2: install openjdk-7-jdk
[00:46] <matthewjp2> i di
[00:46] <matthewjp2> i di
[00:47] <k1l> matthewjp2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/318246/complete-installation-guide-for-android-sdk-adt-bundle-on-ubuntu
[00:48] <matthewjp2> i did but look at this it says to get java but it gives me this error matplayzmcpe@matplayzmcpe-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[00:48] <matthewjp2> Reading package lists... Done
[00:48] <matthewjp2> Building dependency tree
[00:48] <matthewjp2> Reading state information... Done
[00:48] <matthewjp2> Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:48] <matthewjp2> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:48] <matthewjp2> is only available from another source
[00:48] <matthewjp2> However the following packages replace it:
[00:48] <matthewjp2>   apt
[00:48] <matthewjp2> E: Package 'sun-java6-jdk' has no installation candidate
[00:48] <django_> hey whats a good GUI for github?
[00:48] <django_> something very simple
[00:48] <django_> i just need for pull/push
[00:48] <matthewjp2> ya
[00:49] <Kwiatuszyn_> K1rk Are you there ?
[00:49] <kinker31> Heya. The Windows 10 entry still boots me back to grub2 when I select it.
[00:50] <bocephus_> anyone know a way to update chormium besides apt-get update?
[00:51] <TBotNik> All, OK reposted my "external command" Q on ##php, to see HOWTO!
[00:52] <bocephus_> im trying to watch something on amazon and it given me trouble ....saying my web browser is out of date.
[00:52] <rom1504> bocephus_: use chrome
[00:52] <adsad> is apt-get available on Snappy Ubuntu? I'm eager to try it out on Raspberry Pi as an IoT gateway
[00:52] <k1l> bocephus_: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy chromium-browser"?
[00:52] <TBotNik> rom1504: Don't suggest that virus infected thing!
[00:52] <bocephus_> dont have it installed.
[00:53] <artois> adsad: snappy ubuntu?
[00:53] <bocephus_> let me check again... my linux skills suck and i think at one point i tried to install it and ran into some other issue.
[00:53] <K1rk> Kwiatuszyn_, sorry man I'm at work so I'm in and out lol
[00:53] <adsad> artois: yes. https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/
[00:53] <TBotNik> rom1504: Chrome has over 50 Google keytrackers in it and a keytracker is a virus
[00:54] <Kwiatuszyn_> K1rk ok :)
[00:54] <artois> zzz
[00:54] <k1l> TBotNik: dont spread FUD
[00:54] <adsad> Snappy doesn't use apt-get. https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/using-snappy/
[00:54] <bocephus_> k1l, one sec
[00:54] <artois> sounds like NIH insanity
[00:55] <Deez_Nuts> is
[00:55] <k1l> adsad: its another setup with snappy. there should be #ubuntu-snappy
[00:56] <guest-mv9Utw> nf.d
[00:56] <adsad> k1l: thanks. i will ask my questions there
[00:56] <k1l> adsad: sorry, its just #snappy
[00:56] <guest-mv9Utw> hello
[00:57] <welovfree> hi
[00:57] <artois> hi wel
[00:58] <welovfree> hi artois
[00:58] <bocephus_> k1l, rom1504 thanks guys.  Sorry it looks like it might actually install.  Thanks for answering and Sorry for not even trying to tbs my issue.  just gave up WAY to easy on this one.
[00:58] <makerspace> upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 and libstdc++6 cannot be authenticated.  I can disable authentication and do-release-upgrade will bypass authentication and continue on, but is there anything I can do to see why it's not authenticating that might be helpful/verify ubuntus libstdc++6 is not being spoofed?
[00:59] <jimjamm> Hi guys! I've run into a problem: I seems that I can't use Tab as an accelerator for keyboard shortcuts? Not sure if I'm missing something, but it won't work for the built in system settings nor for Unity Tweak Tool
[01:03] <TBotNik> k1l: FUD?
[01:03] <rom1504> TBotNik: no idea what google would do with keytrackers, people already willingly give google all their keystrokes through google services
[01:04] <bazhang> TBotNik, complete nonsense, thats what
[01:04] <TBotNik> rom1504: Not me they are totally blocked on all my machines!
[01:05] <kinker31> TBotNik: Where did you get this "50 keytrackers" thing from?
[01:05] <nicomachus> !FUD > TBotNik
[01:05] <RAM_OR_ROM> what are keytrackers?
[01:05] <jimjamm> Bump: Hi guys! I've run into a problem: I seems that I can't use Tab as an accelerator for keyboard shortcuts? Not sure if I'm missing something, but it won't work for the built in system settings nor for Unity Tweak Tool. Any ideas?
[01:05] <TBotNik> rom1504: Let me restate: We can search, but their scripts are blocked, so they will not execute, neither will any JAVA, without a walkthru!
[01:06] <bazhang> lets move on please
[01:11] <TurBoss> hi
[01:11] <artois> ohai
[01:11] <TurBoss>  i have to setup 2 buildbot build-slaves in the same machine but the init script fails with exit code
[01:11] <TurBoss> here is the log output
[01:11] <TurBoss> http://dpaste.com/0TY92CN
[01:13] <eliteone> ubuntu how are you
[01:15]  * kinker31 sighs
[01:30] <welovfree> what is the best method format to compress files in my case images?
[01:32] <artois> welovfree: by choosing the correct image format
[01:32] <welovfree> artois, which is?
[01:33] <artois> welovfree: depends on what the imagery is of
[01:39] <capella_> ola
[01:39] <TurBoss> hola
[01:40] <Bray90820> Is it  & to do the second command with the first common and && after the first one completes?
[01:43] <TBotNik> All, OK had to download the Python script and mess with it a while!
[01:44] <NedStark> does this channel also support ubuntu-mate
[01:44] <EriC^^> Bray90820: yeah
[01:44] <TBotNik> All, Mostly had permissions problems!
[01:44] <TBotNik> All, When I right click the icon and select open the Dropbox directory I get /home/files/Dropbox/Dropbox/ but when I run the Python process suggested I get:   Exception: Dropbox database not found, is dropbox installed?
[01:44] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Thanks
[01:44] <EriC^^> Bray90820: && after it completes successfully
[01:45] <EriC^^> no problem
[01:45] <NedStark> winter is coming, got to go
[01:45] <TBotNik> All, But dropbox is running and coming up with the icon.  Like I said at the beginning, what is a reliable way to know, inside a script, which directory is the active directory?
[01:47] <TBotNik> All, Thanks for the support, but will take this up, via email with my dropbox support team!
[01:47] <TBotNik> Bye!
[02:17] <Gaveroid1> (im back, just chatting on a laptop now)
[02:19] <Gaveroid1> So I've got DCS World, not an expert on it and haven't played it in a while but how often do you guys run missions including the stock Su-27T I believe it is that comes free?
[02:19] <Gaveroid1> wait hold on
[02:19] <Gaveroid1> i dont think im in the right channel
[02:19] <Gaveroid1> i thought i joined #hoggit :/ oh, sorry lol
[02:29] <bocephus_> how do you manually start the backup?
[02:33] <nicomachus> bocephus_: what backup...?
[02:38] <reese_>  hi
[02:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !hi
[02:39] <reese_> ugh i hate it when this isnt flooded with people needing technical support
[02:40] <reese_> bocephus wdym
[02:40] <svetlana> don't worry about it, people are just busy
[02:42] <kinker31> Well, there's my bootloader entry in Windows 10, sitll booting me back to the grub2 menu when I try to use it, and getting an unkown error when trying to run it in edit mode...
[02:44] <reese_> run what in edit mode?
[02:45] <jerbot> 12.04 LTS to the rescue.  Looks like it's gonna work.
[02:46] <jerbot> it's still missing the driver, but if i can just get to the desktop i can untar it
[02:49] <jetsaredim> is it possible that policykit is blocking gpg-agent?
[02:49] <reese_> it might be
[02:55] <cybermind> I'm an irc noob - am looking for information.
[02:56] <circ-user-eAkBN> question about copyq
[02:56] <jerbot> you know, they should really patch that old bug cause I think lubuntu is the only way to even use a powerbook, anymore. The built-in OS isn't supported, and neither are any of the mac OS flavors that are compatible with the hardware.  These old computers don't pass the hardware bar to run the new OSX's. If I knew how, I would try to do it myself.  I think what's required is to add one driver to the 3.13 linux distro with instmod
[02:56] <cybermind> When I Add an app on my mac its installed in the Applications Folder - where do apps get installed on Unbuntu
[02:57] <circ-user-eAkBN> trying to get the show copyq clipboard shortcut to work, but Im doing it wrong.
[02:57] <circ-user-eAkBN> Just reloaded ubuntu 14.04
[02:57] <circ-user-eAkBN> What am I missing?
[03:00] <circ-user-eAkBN> ?
[03:06] <matt______> Hello!
[03:07] <matt______> I'm pretty new to ubuntu and have a server running up over 12gig of memory. How can I find out what is using it?
[03:08] <matt______> Hello, anyone else around?
[03:09] <somsip> matt______: what does free -m show?
[03:10] <matt______> Total: 12012, used 5221, free 6790 currently.
[03:10] <somsip> matt______: and cached?
[03:10] <matt______> Cached: 4750 used 7261 free
[03:10] <somsip> matt______: do you know about this? http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[03:11] <al2o3-cr> Well, that is just over 5gb isn't it?
[03:11] <kinker31> Late Response to reese_:grub2 supports an enditing interferance when the menu is booted up. When I try booting the entry using F10, it gives me an /EndEntire unkown error.
[03:11] <matt______> No, I do not. It looks like the rem is not being eaten up like earlier, but thank you for this tool. I should be able to investigate further with it.
[03:12] <somsip> matt______: np
[03:12] <circ-user-eAkBN> @matt______
[03:13] <circ-user-eAkBN> from terminal you could do a top -U username
[03:13] <giovanni> hello
[03:15] <riqj> hello everyone, I have a libre office spreadsheet file, it just began to take half a minute each time I saved it, with the program temporarily freezing (greying).
[03:15] <jerbot> Going to try wiring the PC: https://staff.washington.edu/curreri/getting-ubuntu-12-04-and-wireless-working-on-a-powerbook-g4/
[03:16] <jerbot> Bye <3
[03:16] <cybermind> Does Ubuntu have a particular folder where apps are installed - like the applications folder on a Mac?
[03:16] <somsip> !lfs | cybermind
[03:16] <somsip> cybermind: sorry - wrong one
[03:16] <rww> !heir
[03:16] <rww> !hier
[03:17] <cybermind> yeah that was a WTF ???
[03:18] <somsip> cybermind: I was wanting !fhs but had a brain fit. rww got the response I was after anyway
[03:18] <RealKillaz> anyone with some experience with installation of Ubuntu 14.04 giving error: the ext4 file system creation in partition 1 failed. I have format the partition #1 /dev/sda1 manually and it succeeded
[03:20] <cp9b1> ude dban and nuke it properly
[03:20] <cp9b1> use
[03:29] <gambl0re> hi guys
[03:29] <reese_> hi
[03:29] <riqj> hello everyone, I have a libre office spreadsheet file, it just began to take half a minute each time I saved it, with the program temporarily freezing (greying).
[03:29] <sixdoublefive321> hello
[03:30] <sixdoublefive321> has anyone gotten the new update?
[03:30] <gambl0re> will the lenovo 100s be able to run ubuntu running gnome without any issues? http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/100-series/100s-11-inch/
[03:30] <sixdoublefive321> is the command sudo update and sudo upgrade?
[03:31] <sixdoublefive321> can someone help me out
[03:32] <miebster> I'm having some trouble chaning my secondary network card to have a static ip, it seems like it should be simple but the settings just wont take, any help?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> miebster, no idea.  perhaps ask #networking?
[03:35] <llldino> miebster, Can I see the output of 'ip a'
[03:37] <miebster> llldino: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14572985/
[03:38] <miebster> llldino: I think I'm fighting Xubuntus desire to do this graphically, yet the GUIs don't really apply the changes I ask them to
[03:38] <ttt> hi ... what's the alternative for truecrypt for ubuntu
[03:39] <ttt> i cannot create more volume in it
[03:39] <cfhowlett> ttt, veracrypt is a fork
[03:39] <llldino> miebster, You probably have to flush the cache for the card you're trying to change
[03:39] <llldino> What is your goal exactly?
[03:39] <anabain> why a kate window (it also seems to be a (sub)process of its own; at least ps aux shows a PID for it) won't be killed by kill -9 PID?
[03:40] <ttt> i'll try veracrypt .. but is there any workaround without use other software?
[03:40] <miebster> llldino: I have a 2nd card plugged straight into a device, I need to set its ip statically
[03:40] <miebster> llldino, the 2nd card has 2 ports
[03:41] <gambl0re> any other laptop recommendatioons for around $200
[03:41] <ttt> can i open truecrypt volume with veracrypt?
[03:41] <llldino> miebster, I'm reading this now: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[03:41] <cfhowlett> gambl0re, has #hardware
[03:41] <cfhowlett> ttt, ask veracrypt support
[03:42] <llldino> If you jump down to Static IP Address assignment, I think that's what you're looking for
[03:44] <miebster> llldino: do you know how to get xubuntu to reread that file and apply it?
[03:44] <ttt> cfhowlett, thank you. look like it can mount truecrypt volume
[03:44] <cfhowlett> ttt, lucky you!  :)
[03:45] <llldino> miebster, I'd give your computer a reset if you can, there's probably a better way using systemctl but I don't know what the command would be
[03:45] <llldino> sudo systemctl restart networking.service maybe?
[03:46] <miebster> thanks
[03:46] <llldino> Rather, its NetworkManager.service instead of networking I think
[03:51] <EriC^^> why does iptables reset on reboot?
[03:51] <EriC^^> is that normal?
[03:52] <llldino> I don't think so S:
[03:56] <Dylan____> Im got a problem im installed the nvidia 331 drivers as a sucess but the keyboard brightness doesnt work?
[03:57] <bob2017> hey?
[03:57] <bob2017> i’m back hi
[03:58] <cruz_> Am I connected?
[03:59] <Shutem_Down> EriC^^, you saved your iptables right?
[03:59] <llldino> EriC^^, I think you have to run iptables-save after editing iptables
[03:59] <EriC^^> Shutem_Down: no
[04:00] <Shutem_Down> well you have to save your changes
[04:36] <ballmer> ubuntu mate will not let me use anything but the higher screen resolution on startup and gives an error about not finding the correct video mode, but lets me adjust to what i want when i run mate-display-properties.  any idea why?
[04:38] <Shutem_Down> Maybe because the settings aren't being saved to file after you've adjusted them.
[04:38] <Shutem_Down> What type of video card?  Any additional video card software you're using?  like Nvidias?
[04:38] <ballmer> intel built in video
[04:38] <Shutem_Down> laptop?
[04:39] <ballmer> its an older desktop, i don't get this error with anything else
[04:39] <ballmer> it ran xubuntu 14.04 ok a while ago
[04:39] <ballmer> this is 15.10
[04:40] <Shutem_Down> When you make the adjustment within mate, do you save or just hit apply
[04:40] <andywork> can I get some software or configure my terminal to navigate back using only ".." instead of "cd .."?
[04:40] <ballmer> i saved it, and i also tried it with a few other xrandr gui apps
[04:41] <ballmer> it gives the error message you normally get when your video is incompatible with the pre-set modes, but then it lets me use them when i adjust it manually
[04:41] <NoobsterMcTorval> could anyone explain how to properly install programs on linux? im brand new to linux and have used windows all my life and it seems harder to just install programs straight from the internet
[04:42] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, open ubuntu software center.  select package.  install.
[04:42] <Shutem_Down> ballmer, out of my league sorry
[04:42] <daogiahieu> NoobsterMcTorval: which program do you want to install ?
[04:42] <ballmer> ok
[04:42] <ballmer> i think there are some issues with 15.10, i had problems installing it in a vm too
[04:42] <ballmer> in that case it was a efi issue
[04:43] <JadesDJ> Freud said to me that aggression is great, so...I choose Windows ME over ubuntu.
[04:44] <ballmer> its working fine otherwise on a normal install
[04:44] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | JadesDJ,  please
[04:44] <NoobsterMcTorval> lets say i want to install a program like tor. it seems i have to extract the file, etc... i cant open it straight away when i install etc.... ( trying to install non ubuntu software center apps)
[04:45] <cfhowlett> !tor > NoobsterMcTorval
[04:45] <welovfree> hi guys
[04:45] <daogiahieu> hi welovfree
[04:46] <welovfree> I want a good text to speech software for ubuntu
[04:46] <welovfree> something like naturalReader for windows and mac
[04:47] <JadesDJ> oh my god, you triggered the silent-mode
[04:47] <daogiahieu> welovfree: you can try eSpeak
[04:47] <GenericNode> LOL
[04:48] <daogiahieu> welovfree: or if you are using gnome, Evince is the default viewer
[04:49] <NoobsterMcTorval> it seems i have to mess with the terminal every time. have to extract a bunch of stuff etc... daigiahieu, i dont know how to download openoffice for linux and ZSNES, (snes emulator)
[04:49] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, open office?  libreoffice is in the repos.
[04:49] <cfhowlett> as is zsnes
[04:50] <cfhowlett> and tor, for that matter.
[04:50] <NoobsterMcTorval> im such a noob i dont know this stuff, cause i have been brainwashed by bill gates my whole life :(
[04:51] <GenericNode> jesus christ
[04:51] <welovfree> daogiahieu, default viewer?§
[04:51] <welovfree> daogiahieu, what is the name of the package?
[04:51] <GenericNode> "everytime I want to pirate a game it makes me type stuff"
[04:51] <svetlana> GenericNode, can I help you, please?
[04:51] <GenericNode> I just translated
[04:51] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, but now you know.  open the software center and install from there.
[04:52] <daogiahieu> welovfree: Evince
[04:52] <svetlana> GenericNode, translated which part?
[04:52] <NoobsterMcTorval> is every application on the software center? what about non software center applications?
[04:52] <GenericNode> nvm i can't
[04:52] <ballmer> you can get more with synaptic package manager
[04:53] <ballmer> for whatever reason, neither synaptic or the ubuntu software center were default applications in ubuntu mate
[04:53] <NoobsterMcTorval> ZSNES:  there isnt a software package called "zsnes in you current sftware sources. How do you get it?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, false.  it is in the repos
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !info zsnes
[04:54] <NoobsterMcTorval> that is what the software center is telling me
[04:55] <xangua> NoobsterMcTorval: what Ubuntu release is this? Did you update your repositories?
[04:55] <NoobsterMcTorval> 14.04
[04:55] <NoobsterMcTorval> i have synaptic package manager
[04:56] <xangua> Hit the reload button there, try again NoobsterMcTorval
[04:56] <NoobsterMcTorval> ah, found zsnes package on synpatic
[04:59] <NoobsterMcTorval> why do they make it so complicated? gotta download packages etc...
[05:03] <NoobsterMcTorval> k, downloaded zsnes package from synaptic, now what?
[05:03] <NoobsterMcTorval> xangua
[05:03] <xangua> 10:42 PM <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, open ubuntu software center. select package. install.
[05:04] <NoobsterMcTorval> it says not found
[05:04] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, ubuntu software center is the standard installation method.  synaptic is not recommended
[05:04] <NoobsterMcTorval> crazy
[05:05] <NoobsterMcTorval> i instaled it on synaptic cause software keeps saying "not found" for zsnes
[05:06] <NoobsterMcTorval> if software center keeps saying error
[05:06] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, you doing it wrong.  we gave you the correct method - more than once.
[05:08] <NoobsterMcTorval> search zsnes in software center, correct? when i click on it says "not found"
[05:08] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, open your terminal
[05:08] <NoobsterMcTorval> ok
[05:08] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:08] <cfhowlett> paste the url here
[05:09] <xangua> cfhowlett: apt update?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> xangua, yep.  = apt-get update
[05:10] <xangua> I mean, is "apt update"a valid command?
[05:10] <NoobsterMcTorval> apt-get updat
[05:10] <cfhowlett> xangua, I know.  yes.  it is
[05:10] <NoobsterMcTorval> update
[05:10] <cfhowlett> apt update = apt-get update
[05:11] <NoobsterMcTorval> past what url?
[05:11] <NoobsterMcTorval> paste
[05:11] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, that command will return a url
[05:12] <xangua> 11:08 PM <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:12] <NoobsterMcTorval> what does the command do?
[05:14] <NoobsterMcTorval> http://termbin.com/cqsc
[05:15] <cfhowlett> you are using a cdrom?
[05:15] <NoobsterMcTorval> live usb
[05:16] <xangua> NoobsterMcTorval: take in mind anything you do in a live session won't be saved
[05:17] <cfhowlett> you will find all of this less frustrating by doing a regular installation
[05:25] <NoobsterMCTorval> got disconnected
[05:28] <NoobsterMCTorval> i want to learn about the terminal commands etc. I also want to know if i can have the same experience when it comes to downloading stuff compared to windows without using the terminal. everything seems so difficult
[05:29] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, you were not born knowing windows, you learned it.  less complaining + more study = linux learned
[05:29] <edgardoanaya> 15
[05:30] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxcommand/files/TLCL/13.07/TLCL-13.07.pdf/download
[05:35] <NoobsterMCTorval> dang, got dissconnected again. did you say anything?
[05:35] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxcommand/files/TLCL/13.07/TLCL-13.07.pdf/download
[05:38] <NoobsterMCTorval> thanks, is their a way to dowmload stuff easily without using the terminal? i want to learn commands but want to know that i dont always have to rely on the terminal
[05:39] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: you can use a web browser
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !manual | NoobsterMCTorval,
[05:40] <NoobsterMCTorval> lol
[05:41] <NoobsterMCTorval> referring to artois comment
[05:45] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: ? =)
[05:46] <NoobsterMCTorval> so you cant just install something for linux off a website and open it staright away? you have to extract it etc. How does installing programs work in general?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, time for you to read the manual.
[05:47] <NoobsterMCTorval> im going to read it, but i jist want to understand the installing programs concept
[05:47] <xangua>  10:42 PM <cfhowlett> NoobsterMcTorval, open ubuntu software center. select package. install. / doesn't get easier than that
[05:48] <NoobsterMCTorval> what about if the program is not on the software center?
[05:51] <andywork> NoobsterMCTorval: sure you can download and programs off websites, but generally this is not the way to go
[05:51] <andywork> * and run
[05:52] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, you can install 3rd party stuff.  you break it, you fix it, as it will NOT be supported here.
[05:52] <NoobsterMCTorval> so everything not on the ubuntu software center is third party software and not recommended?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !ppa | NoobsterMCTorval,
[05:54] <NoobsterMCTorval> say if i want to download steam or opera web browser on linux
[05:54] <cfhowlett> BOTH are in the repos!!
[05:55] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, newplan: look in the software center first
[05:56] <NoobsterMCTorval> google chrome isnt
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !chromiu
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !chromium
[05:56] <NoobsterMCTorval> ah, chronium
[05:58] <NoobsterMCTorval> Failed to download repository information
[05:59] <tespr> chromium doesn't include flash
[05:59] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCToreval, let's see if we can flatten your learning curve.  1.  windows ain't ubuntu.  2. ubuntu ain't windows.  3. read the manual 4. www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads          -  download #0, read, download #1, read ... repeat               do these for steps and you will find ubuntu much easier to understand
[05:59] <tespr> you have to download flash separetely
[06:00] <tespr> or download chrome from google
[06:00] <tespr> sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[06:00] <Fanya> d
[06:01] <tespr> you can find the pepperflashplugin-nonfree in the ubuntu software center
[06:01] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: you can install random downloads
[06:01] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: it's just a really bad idea
[06:02] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: not because you're on Unix, just because it always is
[06:02] <NoobsterMCTorval> so you literally use the software center for EVERYTHING you download. everything on the software center is the offical repositories?
[06:02] <artois> if and when you start doing that, don't expect your Unix system to perform any better than the average horrendous Windows install
[06:02] <artois> I don't, but I do use the package manager
[06:02] <artois> and mostly source code and not precompiled binaries
[06:03] <artois> what you should do is: 1) check the ordinary repos 2) check the other repos (contrib, multiverse, etc.) 3) reconsider whether you need this or there isn't something better 4) look for a .deb 5) look for specific awful instructions on upstream site 6) look for any random POS
[06:03] <tespr> NoobsterMCTorval: when you download a file from the web ubuntu software center opens the file <---- you asked this question
[06:03] <orion> Hi. Is there a way to get the PID of a running upstart service without grepping the output of the `status` command?
[06:04] <artois> orion: so, by name?
[06:04] <orion> artois: yes
[06:04] <llldino> orion, pgrep command
[06:04] <NoobsterMCTorval> tried to download steam from software center but it said  "failed t download repository information"
[06:05] <orion> llldino: That doesn't "feel" right to me.
[06:05] <llldino> Why?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> pgrep returns the pid ... as you asked?
[06:05] <artois> Unix is not a morality, it's an OS
[06:06] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141512/how-to-resolve-failed-to-download-repository-information
[06:06] <TalkToMe> artois,  the internets would suggest otherwise
[06:06] <xangua> NoobsterMCTorval: I don't know what do you expect to accomplish in a live session, please install Ubuntu either a real install or virtual machine
[06:06] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: more specifically: http://askubuntu.com/questions/458369/failed-to-download-repository-information
[06:06] <artois> TalkToMe: heh, they always would
[06:07] <orion> llldino: What if I have multiple threads?
[06:07] <orion> llldino: Someone could come along and inadvertently screw up my script by running another command with the same name.
[06:07] <orion> s/threads/forks
[06:07] <tespr> live ubuntu has problem downloading steam, when you install ubuntu to the harddrive it won't have this problem
[06:07] <artois> they could do that regardless
[06:08] <artois> if name is the most specific characteristic you have
[06:08] <artois> maybe you should make an init script
[06:08] <artois> or wtfevr systemd uses/calls it
[06:10] <Guest37254> hi
[06:10] <NoobsterMCTorval> i think im overcomplicating it. basically, every program you need is found on the software center?
[06:10] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: virtually always, yes
[06:11] <artois> things you won't find in the main repos are things like...
[06:11] <artois> extreme bleeding edge development things for developers
[06:11] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, steam will not fully function in a live usb session.  why do  you not install ubuntu?
[06:11] <artois> and games that were designed specifically for other OSes that just came out or something
[06:11] <tespr> software center sometimes malfunctions when you run it from a cd instead of a harddrive
[06:11] <artois> and, most of all: horrible software that you shouldn't want at all
[06:12] <NoobsterMCTorval> do you have to use the terminal when you install third party repos though?
[06:12] <NoobsterMCTorval> third party pograms i meant
[06:12] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: something around 60,000 official packages, and no doubt countless ones you can find laying about
[06:12] <tespr> the errors you get are because you didn't install ubuntu but run it from a cd
[06:12] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: no you don't
[06:13] <tespr> you can install everything from ubuntu software center gui, no need for a terminal or commandline
[06:13] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: you can just find a .deb (the Debian [what Ubuntu is based off] equivalent of a .exe, let's say), and double click it
[06:13] <artois> you just have to keep in mind that the Debian equivalent of a .exe is not meant to be, ideally, randomly found, downloaded, and ran; it's meant to be installed via a repo via the package manager
[06:13] <artois> but at least if it's a .deb it'll still be installed by the package manager
[06:14] <artois> if it's some unicorn like a .run or .bin, you will have no idea what it'll do
[06:14] <NoobsterMCTorval> yeah, i have done that before. but i seem to have to extract the file
[06:14] <artois> and those will be just like a .exe on Windows, doing whatever they please
[06:14] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: for a .deb file?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, because clicking .debs does not grab dependencies ...
[06:14] <xangua> Jeez...
[06:15] <NoobsterMCTorval> sorry guys, im a special penguin
[06:15] <artois> NoobsterMCTorval: it's possible your file manager hasn't associated .deb with the dpkg frontend for installing them, but I doubt it
[06:15] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, so WHY do you not install again???
[06:15] <NoobsterMCTorval> ?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> install ubuntu, not booting from USB
[06:16] <NoobsterMCTorval> cause i dont want to screw with the hard drive for now
[06:16] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, how much ram do you have?
[06:17] <NoobsterMCTorval> 4gb. this is an all in one pc that is 6 years old. on death row
[06:17] <tespr> be careful when you install ubuntu not to delete your precious file <--- sometimes it happens
[06:17] <cfhowlett> NoobsterMCTorval, install virtualbox to windows.  install lubuntu/xubuntu to virtualbox.  no HDD changes required
[06:19] <NoobsterMCTorval> when you first install ubuntu, should you install all of the offical packages?
[06:19] <tespr> you don't have to chose which file get installed by ubuntu-installer
[06:20] <tespr> you don't have to chose which packages get installed by ubuntu-installer
[06:20] <NoobsterMCTorval> 4gb of ram and the computer sometimes freezes
[06:20] <tespr> it automatically installs the needed packages
[06:21] <quangtm> my ubuntu always start up slowly
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu > NoobsterMCTorval lubuntu is optimized for older/lower spec machines.
[06:21] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu > NoobsterMCTorval | lubuntu is optimized for older/lower spec machines.
[06:22] <quangtm> and it usually be into a grey screen
[06:22] <quangtm> like 'not responding'
[06:22] <quangtm> I dont know why
[06:22] <NoobsterMCTorval> with a intel i5 430m. i have actually tried out lubuntu before. will it run alright in vm with a first gen mobile i5 and 4gb of ram. slow as crap
[06:22] <cfhowlett> NoobtterMCTorval, you have the machine.  don't ask.  test for yourelf.
[06:23] <tespr> you think your pc has enough memory
[06:23] <tespr> 4gb was windows vista era back in 2007
[06:24] <quangtm> my pc is itel core i3 , ram 4gb. But sometimes it's freezed
[06:24] <cfhowlett> quangtm, ubuntu freezes?
[06:25] <abhi_> hey guys; when i am trying to install git through terminal : i am getting error Unable to locate git
[06:25] <quangtm> @cfhowltt, yes, I means some application is crashed
[06:25] <abhi_> i am using ubuntu version 12.10
[06:25] <cfhowlett> abhi_, end of life,  no longer supported.  upgrade to a supported version, 14.04.3 suggested
[06:26] <VfdPrim> so is there a site that will scan my computer and tell me all the stuff i can upgrade
[06:26] <xangua> abhi_: please install a supported Ubuntu release
[06:26] <abhi_> ok thanks
[06:26] <cfhowlett> VfdPrim, "stuff"??
[06:26] <VfdPrim> hardware
[06:26] <NoobsterMCTorval> i should just put crouton on my chromebook. much easier for learning
[06:26] <cfhowlett> quangtm, open a terminal: sudo apt install lxde xfce4             logout/choose lxde session/login
[06:27] <VfdPrim> grafics card ram and what not
[06:27] <cfhowlett> VfdPrim, ask #hardware
[06:27] <VfdPrim> thanks
[06:27] <quangtm> Icdhowlett, thanks
[06:27] <YourManCJ> n
[06:27] <cfhowlett> quangtm, happy2help! vfdprim
[06:28] <sam_yan> Is someone knows how to start a gnome-session under X11 or gdm?
[06:30] <VfdPrim> any idea why im getting a cannot send to channel over on #hardware
[06:30] <xangua> ! Register | VfdPrim
[06:32] <VfdPrim> where is the server tab...?
[06:33] <cfhowlett> VfdPrim, depends on  your irc , chat client.   on hexchat, far left tab
[06:33] <VfdPrim> yeaaa im using pidgen lol
[06:34] <chigang> Hi all, when I use cobbler install Ubuntu14.04, after  PXE reboot, I lost the image("NO SIGNAL") on the IP KVM. Did anyone come across this question? Thanks
[06:34] <VfdPrim> so i need to get a irc client i guess
[06:35] <cfhowlett> VfdPrim, hexchat = intuitive.  YMMV
[06:35] <VfdPrim> thanks getting it now
[06:36] <DarkSpiritAK47> hi everyone... first time here... been on irc in the past... but first time in this room... watching the avengers age of ultron movie... it is alright... loved comic books as a kid... the movies are eh... lol idkw i feel that way... i am using elementary os... lonely... crazy guy here :-)
[06:36] <cfhowlett> !ot | DarkSpiritAK47, wrong channel.
[06:37] <cfhowlett> DarkSpiritAK47, and elementary OS is not ubuntu and is not supported here.
[06:37] <DarkSpiritAK47> thankx
[06:37] <cfhowlett> best of luck
[06:40] <VfdPrim> im so confused lol
[06:54] <vfd> ok where exactly is the server tab (still trying to register my name)
[06:55] <vfd> im using hexchat now
[06:56] <cfhowlett> "freenode"
[06:58] <vfd> ok thanks now it says its already in use but i know its the one i was using before i guess so how do i chainge the password or do i just have to make up a new one
[06:59] <soroush> hello guts
[06:59] <cfhowlett> !nick | vfd
[07:00] <vfd> that what im trying to do but it wont let me becasue it says its already in use
[07:00] <cfhowlett> vfd, then someone else has  it already.
[07:00] <cfhowlett> or
[07:00] <vfd> yea ME lol
[07:00] <cfhowlett> you need to enter your password
[07:01] <soroush> how do I connect to windows share?
[07:01] <vfd> but i dont know how to sighn into it because i forgot the password
[07:01] <soroush> im using a raspberry pi
[07:01] <cfhowlett> !samba | soroush
[07:02] <soroush> thank you
[07:02] <Myrtti> vfd: /msg nickserv help sendpass
[07:03] <vfd> no help available for sendpass
[07:04] <Myrtti> vfd: it's not registered, either
[07:04] <vfd> what isnt
[07:04] <Myrtti> so it wouldn't have helped
[07:04] <Myrtti> your nickname
[07:04] <vfd> ok
[07:05] <vfd> how do i check want to see if VFDprim is
[07:05] <vfd> registred
[07:05] <cfhowlett> vfd,  if not registered, it is still available!
[07:05] <Myrtti> /msg nickserv info nickname
[07:07] <vfd> says already in use
[07:07] <cfhowlett> vfd, choose a new nick, register it and don't forget the password
[07:08] <vfd> ugh that stinks but ok if i must thanks for the help
[07:08] <guest81906> if your lucky they might expire on freenode after x days
[07:17] <mrr411> ok so i guess im going to use this one from now on
[07:18] <mrr411> thanks for the help
[07:21] <mrr4111> .
[07:21] <mrr4111> ok this is really making me mad i guess i just cant use pidgen for irc
[07:23] <bob2017> can someone tell me how to remove/disable the nvidia opengl extensions without removing the rest of the library?
[07:25] <okovko> Hello, I am transitioning to Ubuntu from Windoze. Everything is going smoothly, except that all networking processes are dead slow.
[07:25] <okovko> I don't have this issue on Windows. Am I right in suspecting that I need to find a better driver for my wireless card?
[07:26] <hateball> okovko: What card are you using? lspci will tell us
[07:26] <hateball> okovko: And version of distro as well
[07:27] <hateball> okovko: Well I suppose you might have USB wifi, in which case it's: lsusb
[07:27] <okovko> Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
[07:28] <okovko> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[07:28] <okovko> It is wireless
[07:28] <okovko> Not a USB stick wireless, I mean to say
[07:28] <hateball> okovko: Intel wifi drivers are much improved in later kernels. You have the option of going to 16.04 soon (or to alpha right now), or you can install a more recent kernel in trusty and see if that makes it better
[07:29] <okovko> In a trusty?
[07:29] <hateball> !trusty
[07:30] <hateball> okovko: You can install the kernel from 15.10 with: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-wily
[07:30] <hateball> okovko: Then you will be able to pick between that and the regular 14.04 kernel in grub menu if you want
[07:30] <vbotka> okovko, 6300 is ultimate 11n stable since ~2010. Would you post the output of "iw wlan0 link"
[07:30] <okovko> Is Grub the pre-launcher?
[07:31] <okovko> So I would select the kernel mode during boot-up
[07:31] <hateball> Grub is the bootloader, yes
[07:31] <hateball> okovko: If you want to go back to the older kernel in case something is not behaving, yes
[07:31] <okovko> Thanks for the tip. 14.04 was the experimental version back when I installed it :P moves quick
[07:32] <okovko> vbotka: How do I pipe the output of that command into my clipboard?
[07:32] <vbotka> try diodon
[07:33] <hateball> okovko: command |nc termbin.com 9999
[07:33] <EriC^^> okovko: iw wlan0 link | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:33] <hateball> :)
[07:33] <EriC^^> will give you a link to it pastebinned
[07:33] <EriC^^> :)
[07:34] <okovko> Nice!
[07:34] <okovko> http://termbin.com/0b81
[07:34] <okovko> What's Diodon?
[07:36] <okovko> Nvmd I skimmed the man page
[07:38] <vbotka> okovko, MCS-5 is low (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009#Data_rates) What is the AP?
[07:38] <george4n> Hey guys, I'm currently looking for way to change the audio device from terminal. eg. from HDMI out to headphones out. This is needs to be in a startup script. Is there any way to make stipulate that a device must be the default sound device? Or an order of devices at least?
[07:38] <george4n> basically, HDMI out always defaults for me, I would like it that if in other devices are present, they should be default and never HDMI out
[07:39] <EriC^^> george4n: maybe you can make a udev rule that runs a script when they're plugged in
[07:39] <EriC^^> and a udev rule that switches hdmi on when you plug that in
[07:40] <okovko> My AP is a wireless router
[07:40] <okovko> Are there routers that don't play nice specifically with Linux? I wouldn't imagine they know the difference
[07:40] <george4n> EriC^^ ill check that out thanks1
[07:41] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:41] <vbotka> okovko, specificaly waht type?
[07:41] <Sachiru> For 16.04, will Ubuntu give us the option of booting from a ZFS snapshot?
[07:41] <okovko> vbotka: I'll go check, I don't remember
[07:42] <OerHeks> george4n,  install gnome-media, see these 2 identical answers, http://askubuntu.com/questions/398030/change-default-sound-device/502133 ( with pics)  and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249975
[07:43] <okovko> vbotka: Cisco Linksys E3000
[07:43] <OerHeks> it can select the default audiooutput.
[07:44] <george4n> OerHeks Thanks, thats exactly what im looking for!
[07:44] <OerHeks> george4n, tricky part is the hidden option in the launcher, but the fix is described cleasly.
[07:44] <OerHeks> *clearly
[07:45] <george4n> wait...what hidden option?
[07:46] <OerHeks> NoDisplay = true
[07:47] <vbotka> okovko, both the adapter and AP are capable of 5GHz. You might want to configure a channel in 5GHz and set "wireless-N only" in AP. For other devices "2.4GHz" get separate AP.
[07:48] <okovko> vbotka: I already have a 5 GHz channel configured :( I think
[07:48] <okovko> vbotka: I'm definitely using that one on Windows
[07:48] <vbotka> okovko, E3000 is dual-radio, you  don't need another AP
[07:49] <vbotka> okovko, yourtermbin says "freq: 2412" "SSID: EmeraldShark"
[07:49] <okovko> Wait you're right, I'm trying to select the other one and it's failing somewhere along the line
[07:50] <hateball> I don't suppose you tried my advice to get a recent kernel
[07:51] <okovko> Not yet, it looks like I'm not even using the 5 GHz band, which would result in awful connectivity
[07:51] <okovko> Something is misconfigured
[07:51] <hateball> Thing is you arent supposed to have to configure anything clientside when the driver works properly
[07:52] <hateball> okovko: "dmesg" will spit out info if your card tries to connect to an AP and things go wrong
[07:54] <okovko> well that outputted a loooot of info
[07:54] <hateball> Yes well not everything is related to wifi
[07:55] <hateball> But you'd see things like how it may try auth and fails, etc etc
[07:57] <okovko> it authenticates, associates, and then deauthenticates because of a 15=4way handshake timeout
[07:59] <hateball> Oh well. I'd just grab a new kernel and test. But that's me.
[07:59] <okovko> i'm going to try that now
[08:02] <vbotka> okovko, Intel 6300, 6205 work fine for me. But, my first step after installation is to disable NM https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[08:03] <okovko> Errr, how do you manage your connection without the network manager?
[08:04] <vbotka> okovko, with wpa_gui http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man8/wpa_gui.8.html
[08:04] <vbotka> okovko, or, manual editing wpa_supplicant.conf
[08:04] <afidegnum> what's the codename of the current release of ubuntu14.04 ?
[08:05] <OerHeks> afidegnum, current 14.04.3 is still the same name AFAIK
[08:05] <Myrtti> afidegnum: the same as when it was released...
[08:06] <Myrtti> !14.04
[08:06] <afidegnum> ok, trusty
[08:11] <HazWard> Is there a way of improving the font rendering in URxvt?
[08:11] <HazWard> My font looks amazing in Firefox and Gnome-Terminal but in URxvt it's not as pretty
[08:12] <vbotka> okovko, I'm sure it's not the kernel. My guess is NM. As a first step you might want to disable NM.
[08:13] <Li> ubuntu is really funny, I'm trying to take a screenshot of bluefish menu and it just disapears whenever I press the PrtSc button ... why would PrtSc has any effect on anything other than doing what it was made for?
[08:13] <somsip> HazWard: what font? Mono tend to me better in terminal IMHO, eg: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/81746/how-can-i-get-better-looking-fonts-in-my-terminal-urxvt
[08:13] <huguangjun> hello
[08:14] <somsip> HazWard: and more: http://www.askapache.com/linux/rxvt-xresources.html
[08:14] <HazWard> I'm using Monaco
[08:14] <huguangjun> I'm using Ubuntu
[08:14] <huguangjun> 15.04
[08:14] <somsip> HazWard: no idea. Well, some links there for you to play with, but I'd suggest using a decent mono spaced font
[08:15] <OerHeks> Li start gnome-screenshot, and set timing in seconds, so you can open the menu without interfering with keypresses
[08:15] <HazWard> somsip: it is monospaced
[08:15] <huguangjun> Where do you all come from
[08:15] <somsip> HazWard: so it is. Well, tweak as per those guides then
[08:16] <huguangjun> 有多少人
[08:16] <huguangjun> 都是老外?
[08:16] <somsip> !zh | HazWard
[08:16] <huguangjun> 在劳伦什么?
[08:16] <somsip> !zh | huguangjun
[08:16] <karidoe> I'm from thailand
[08:17] <huguangjun> I am a Chinese, I am glad to meet you.
[08:17] <karidoe> :D
[08:18] <huguangjun> ?
[08:18] <somsip> karidoe: huguangjun: if you want to chat, please use private messaging or use #ubuntu-offtopic if it's about ubuntu
[08:18] <karidoe> somsip: sorry.
[08:18] <somsip> HazWard: looks like antialias=true is commonly used with Monaco, eg: https://github.com/NSinopoli/dotfiles/blob/master/.Xresources
[08:20] <huguangjun> How to use this chat software
[08:20] <okovko> vbotka: I will try that tomorrow. Some time ago, my father decided I was staying up too late and did some admin shtuff on the router to disconnect my mac address past midnight
[08:20] <okovko> vbotka: Of course I just spoofed my mac address, but it might still be working on the 5 band (the deauth seems to indicate that?)
[08:20] <vbotka> okovko, :D
[08:20] <okovko> vbotka: I'm too tired to figure out how to spoof it on Ubuntu, now, because now I looove sleeping earlier than later
[08:21] <okovko> vbotka: I'll let you know if it 'fixes' itself tomorrow :) thank you for the help; in case it is that I'd feel bad putting you guys through a goose chase
[08:27] <hateball> okovko: you can set a cloned MAC in nm
[08:29] <lti7tui1> hi all! I have worked internet (3G) connection via ppp0, and worked connection (via cable)  to another local PC, via eth1; all works fine, but not simultaneously! When I select "eth1 automatically", I can ssh to local computer, but lose Internet via 3g; when I re-plug modem and select 3g, I lost connection to local 198.162.1.1 PC; how to run both connections in one time? probably play with /etc/network/interfaces, but how?..
[08:31] <jp__> hi!
[08:32] <lti7tui1> And, is it possible, to even share internet to local PC, but still have ssh connection to it?..
[08:32] <lti7tui1> jp__ hi
[08:35] <anikras> hello
[08:35] <lti7tui1> anikras: hello
[08:35] <anikras> I have a fitbit and I try to connect with bluetooth, but i can't
[08:44] <protor> hola
[08:46] <locksmith> Hola
[08:58] <layan> hey my suspend option is not working, Why?
[09:01] <CinnamonRickRoll> I have no idea myself, but I'd say ppl need a bit more info in order to help you out
[09:02] <l_> which version would be better?
[09:02] <l_> mint or ubuntu ?
[09:02] <geirha> This is #ubuntu
[09:02] <tespr> ubuntu has more users to help you
[09:03] <l_> but i think it's more easier for mint
[09:03] <locksmith> putinubuntu can help!
[09:04] <l_> that,s right!
[09:04] <sruli> TJ-: hi
[09:05] <sruli> TJ-: can u help me out with the routing issue?
[09:08] <l_> @sruli sure they can,these gays are good
[09:12] <l_> hello world!
[09:12] <sruli> the world is asleep
[09:13] <locksmith> thats it
[09:13] <locksmith> l_: whats your name
[09:13] <l_> sure you don't wanna know
[09:14] <locksmith> why
[09:14] <l_> locales doesn't work well
[09:14] <l_> lol
[09:15] <locksmith> Lol have a good month
[09:15] <l_> not that lol,it just means laughing!
[09:16] <locksmith> have a good week
[09:16] <l_> really?
[09:16] <locksmith> have a good new year
[09:16] <locksmith> Happy new year*
[09:17] <l_> same wishes!
[09:17] <l_> have you got your tickets?
[09:17] <l_> --!
[09:17] <locksmith> i got egnog
[09:17] <locksmith> i got eggnog
[09:18] <locksmith> Ubuntu
[09:18] <locksmith> this chan suz
[09:18] <locksmith> sux *
[09:19] <locksmith> Bored!
[09:19] <l_> what's your name ?
[09:20] <llldino> !ot
[09:20] <l_> --!
[09:20] <locksmith> who
[09:21] <l_> u
[09:21] <locksmith> Alpha
[09:21] <l_> hehe
[09:22] <B_l4ck> TIL : Customers are dicks when money comes to mind
[09:23] <l_> not only customers
[09:23] <B_l4ck> hahaha
[09:23] <MyWay> hello, can I convert a linuxmint installation to ubuntu? e.g. from linux mint 17.3 to ubuntu 14.04.3 by changing sources somewhere?
[09:23] <B_l4ck> companies too
[09:24] <MyWay> as it's the same base I thought maybe I don't need reinstall anything inside /
[09:25] <llldino> MyWay, You can change your repo sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:25] <l_> but it's not easy for not just about some desktop envoriment
[09:25] <MyWay> but on Linux mint, inside /etc/apt/sources.list, there are no ref to linux mint
[09:26] <llldino> I believe Linux mint just uses the ubuntu repos
[09:26] <llldino> You'd be better asking in #mint though
[09:26] <MyWay> yes, they use a mix, I think
[09:28] <l_> is that really people like mint more
[09:29] <OerHeks> MyWay, no, do a fresh install, no guarantees
[09:29] <MyWay> oh :(
[09:30] <OerHeks> l_, no reason to choose mint, ubuntu provides cinnamon desktop too nowadays
[09:30] <MyWay> I have to say I liked it, but I don't like the fact I can't use gnome-shell on mint
[09:30] <MyWay> because they block gnome dependencies from what I've understand
[09:31] <MyWay> and I prefer gnome desktop to cinnamon/mate
[09:31] <l_> It confuses me a not
[09:32] <l_> lot
[09:32] <l_> so actually,i got two os on my PC
[09:33] <l_> i thinks mints eat less hardware
[09:34] <OerHeks> as mint is offtopic, and does need the same hardware, i leave you with it.
[09:34] <rana_arcaica> hi how can i disinstall a linuxOS on pendrive?
[09:35] <l_> use fdisk
[09:35] <OerHeks> disinstall? de-install?
[09:35] <OerHeks> format the pendrive
[09:36] <locksmith> l_: is that your real nickname?
[09:36] <l_> negative
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[09:37] <locksmith> whats tt?
[09:37] <l_> I started it with my family name
[09:37] <locksmith> and?
[09:37] <l_> and for convenice
[09:37] <locksmith> I want more content
[09:38] <l_> ok ,call leochain
[09:38] <OerHeks> locksmith, move chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please, thanks
[09:38] <rana_arcaica> how do i format a pendrive on lubuntu?
[09:39] <cpmx> run “sudo apt-get install gparted” and follow the instructions to format it
[09:39] <OerHeks> lubuntu should have the disks utility too, see system programs in the menu
[09:39] <xulei_> ?
[09:39] <l_> you can use fdisk for instead
[09:40] <cpmx> yea but the disk utility isnt as good
[09:40] <l_> for what? on windows?
[09:41] <cpmx> its not as advanced, I dont think you can change the partition table
[09:42] <l_> fdisk has higher rank than g
[09:42] <Zulu_Too> OerHeks speaking of Lubuntu, I installed it today and it is the best distro I have ever used. Fast install and fast response with computer. The only thing that I would hope the programmers would consider is the installation time delay when choosing TIME ZONE, if you sit there and wait it rushes to the next install application. Not a bad thing, but if you do unatended install, that means more time. Otherwise what a great piece of art 
[09:43] <l_> you can mkfs to any format by solving utility
[09:43] <cpmx> isnt fdisk all comand line, so it is a lot harder to use
[09:44] <l_> you are right about this
[09:45] <af_> hi i have a 2007 macbook pro run by 14.04. its a fresh install. where do i find the info on tuning it please?
[09:45] <l_> but think about permission issues,
[09:46] <Zulu_Too> K1l Thanks again for the advice. Well taken.
[09:47] <cpmx> what do you mean permission issues
[09:47] <janeer> guys how do icreat fileshare between ubuntu as a real system and other ubuntu system in virtualbox
[09:48] <l_> even if sudo with gparted
[09:48] <l_> it won't work out sometimes
[09:49] <OerHeks> Zulu_Too, if you do an unattended install, timezone should be set in the preseed file, no worry
[09:49] <cpmx> I’ve never had a problem using gparted
[09:50] <l_> i got many ><!
[09:50] <Zulu_Too> Good point OerHeks. Thanks.
[09:51] <Zulu_Too> I have tried many Linux distros and lubuntu is finally what I wanted.
[09:51] <l_> like diskpart VS third-part software in Windows
[09:51] <Zulu_Too> Lots of good features if you are a professional like myself.
[09:52] <l_> would you talk about it?
[10:02] <Nooby_One> good morning: HP pavilion, ubuntu 14: I m trying to play MKV file, but vlc does only play the audio, and it gives the message that it has no suitable decoder module. Also, while it states it is an MKV file, VLC says it does not support "hevc" ...
[10:03] <peaceful> Hi, my mic doesn't work.
[10:03] <cpmx> Nooby_One: Do you have the restricted extras
[10:04] <Nooby_One> cpmx... i'm a terrible noob, what are the restricted extras? what do you mean?
[10:04] <locksmith> peaceful: are you a guy?
[10:04] <peaceful> yes
[10:05] <cpmx> The restricted extras is a package that has stuff like extra codecs and fonts, that might be the problem
[10:05] <cpmx> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[10:06] <OerHeks> !restricted
[10:06] <Nooby_One> also, i tried this: "sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-libde265", however, i get the following message in the terminal: "E: unable to locate package vlc-plugin-libde265"
[10:07] <OerHeks> MKV is just a container, http://askubuntu.com/questions/655457/vlc-2-2-1-doesnt-play-hevc-h-265-encoded-videos
[10:08] <Nooby_One> my restricted extras are installed
[10:09] <peaceful> Hi, my mic doesn't work.
[10:09] <locksmith> what did you say?
[10:10] <cpmx> Nooby_One: I’m not sure of the problem then
[10:10] <Zulu_Too> Peaceful, have you checked that you plugged your mic in the correct socket; i.e. aux in or mic input or headphones. It is a common mistake.
[10:11] <Zulu_Too> Check your cables first.
[10:11] <OerHeks> mic troubleshooting <> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[10:11] <Nooby_One> I have to go for a bit, i'll be back soon! I'll be reading the links first be4 i post any follow up questions, thanks already!
[10:11] <dafb> peaceful: have you tried using your mic with other computers?
[10:11] <HackerII> alsamixer
[10:12] <ramvi> I'm customizing the livecd for my usb stick so I can take my ubuntu with me anywhere. But "Squashfs is a compressed read-only filesystem for Linux." How can I install security updates on my usb stick if it's read only? Can I make it writeable?
[10:12] <dafb> alsamixer -g for the win
[10:12] <Zulu_Too> Dafb, that is a good question.
[10:13] <peaceful> dafb, no
[10:13] <Zulu_Too> Most mics don't do well with computers because they don't have PRE-AMPLIFIERS to set the amplitude of the audio for the input.
[10:13] <OerHeks> Zulu_Too, nonsense
[10:14] <Zulu_Too> Everything may work just fine but most computers don't amplify microphones correctly.
[10:15] <peaceful> i dont know
[10:15] <peaceful> not working here
[10:15] <Zulu_Too> OerHeks, sorry to say this but you are off base. I am a professional certified Licensed Master Technician in Radio Broadcasting. I have 5 Masters degrees. Speak when you know something and don't denegrate others for their knowledge.
[10:15] <Ad1_RN> hi
[10:15] <OerHeks> peaceful, see this wiki for mic troubleshooting <> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[10:16] <OerHeks> Zulu_Too,  most mic work fine with any computer,regardless your degree
[10:16] <tespr> ramvi the usb live system cannot become writeable
[10:16] <peaceful> OerHeks, i checked
[10:17] <Ad1_RN> what is the Intel Microcode (...) in Additional drivers in Xubuntu 15.10 ??
[10:17] <Zulu_Too> OerHeks, I have been in the Electronics business for almost 50 years. I know exactly what is happening with these things.
[10:17] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, congratulations
[10:17] <peaceful> That's impressive :)
[10:17] <peaceful> Can you help me to fix my problem? :)
[10:17] <OerHeks> Ad1_RN, it is an update for the latest CPUs, to work correctly with any kernel.
[10:18] <Zulu_Too> Peaceful, just troubleshoot your problem. As someone here said: "did you try the mic on a different rig?"
[10:18] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, no
[10:18] <Zulu_Too> What is your answer to that question?
[10:18] <peaceful> I have no other pc
[10:18] <Ad1_RN> i've got installed Xubuntu 14.04 now, and it can't find this drivers
[10:18] <bumbar_> i'm trying to install libqt5webengine5, but says it depends on qtdeclarative-abi-5-4-1 but it is not installable. apparently it's a virtual package, how can i install it?
[10:18] <Ad1_RN> is it possible to install this drivers on 14.04?
[10:19] <DarkSpiritAK47> hey what was that ubuntuofftopic again? cant remeber the room name???
[10:19] <Zulu_Too> Then troubleshoot your problem that way and see if it is either your mic or it could be a digital switch setting. i.e. volume control.
[10:19] <Ad1_RN> i've got Intel Pentium G620 in this machine
[10:19] <gateshwill> mac or pc?
[10:19] <Ad1_RN> PC
[10:19] <Zulu_Too> Peaceful, you don't need a PC to test a mic. You can use a tape recorder for that purpose. :)
[10:19] <Ad1_RN> bumbar_: try sudo apt-get install -f
[10:20] <HackerII> or a stereo
[10:20] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, i dont have it
[10:20] <Zulu_Too> Do you have any electronics equipment like an OHM Meter?
[10:20] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, didn't work
[10:20] <HackerII> peaceful:  did you put   aslamixer  in terminal and see if its muted ?
[10:21] <peaceful> HackerII, yep
[10:21] <peaceful> i set mic to max and unmuted
[10:21] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: it could be a smartphone or something could give audio signal by mini jack cable
[10:21] <Zulu_Too> With an OHM meter you can check first the continuity to see if the mic is continuous.
[10:21] <ramvi> I'm customizing the livecd for my usb stick so I can take my ubuntu with me anywhere. But "Squashfs is a compressed read-only filesystem for Linux." How can I install security updates on my usb stick if it's read only? Can I make it writeable?
[10:21] <HackerII> Zulu_Too:  im a retired ham radio repairman, most people dont know how to use an ohm meter, lol
[10:22] <HackerII> besides, its an electret cart rage
[10:22] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, I am glad I have met someone like you.
[10:22] <Ad1_RN> bumbar_: use sudo apt-cache search <lib-name> to search if this libraries exists in repo
[10:22] <peaceful> good
[10:22] <HackerII> likewise
[10:22] <hateball> ramvi: you can install your OS to the stick, not just run it "live"
[10:22] <peaceful> mic not recording naything
[10:22] <peaceful> Its something with software
[10:22] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, what meter bands have you used?
[10:22] <peaceful> mic is fine
[10:22] <l_> it's the driver problem
[10:23] <HackerII> from 50mhz to 1.5g
[10:23] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: have you checked audio options?
[10:23] <ramvi> hateball, I'm guessing that will take for ever given the usb-stick speed.
[10:23] <peaceful> l_, yes
[10:23] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, yes
[10:23] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: have you choosed recording device?
[10:23] <peaceful> oh windows i miss you
[10:23] <Zulu_Too> Nice Hackerll. I remember repairing CB radios when I was a kid. 11 meter band.
[10:23] <HackerII> lol
[10:23] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, i use alsamixer
[10:24] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, says it's in libqt5qml5, but i already have it installed
[10:24] <OerHeks> alsamixer > F6 > select analog soundcard, and try again
[10:24] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: are you using Audacity for recording?
[10:24] <HackerII> what OerHeks  said
[10:24] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, I used a Frequency Generator as a VFO on CB band.
[10:24] <Ad1_RN> bumbar_: try it with rest libs
[10:25] <Ad1_RN> and try to install all of them by sudo apt-get install <lib-name>
[10:25] <Ad1_RN> and then use sudo apt-get install -f
[10:25] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, no im using "arecord test.wav"
[10:25] <DavidFromBE> i have a process that appears between [] when running ps aux that i can't kill. why ?
[10:25] <Zulu_Too> On single sideband people went crazy when the generator drifted off frequency. Digital Frequency counter was my rescue.
[10:26] <HackerII> digital vfo
[10:26] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: try Audacity, maybe you're using bad parameters in arecord
[10:26] <Zulu_Too> Frequency counter was a good one with an oven for the crystal oscillator. It was very stable.
[10:26] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: arecord -l
[10:26] <Ad1_RN> it should show your recording devices
[10:27] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
[10:27] <peaceful> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: AD1981 Analog [AD1981 Analog]
[10:27] <peaceful>   Subdevices: 1/1
[10:27] <peaceful>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[10:27] <OerHeks> DavidFromBE, does 'top' give any zombie process?
[10:27] <Zulu_Too> VFO was unstable. Temperature changes drifted the frequency.
[10:27] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, you may know a lot about radios but not about pc :)
[10:28] <Zulu_Too> Peaceful, shame on you for that comment. :)
[10:28] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, ok :)
[10:28] <Zulu_Too> :)
[10:28] <HackerII> heil cartrages ftw
[10:28] <DavidFromBE> OerHeks: how to tell ?
[10:28] <l_> you would update your driver ,think about it
[10:28] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, what do you mean try? i can't install what i need because of missing dependencies. and one of them says is not installable
[10:28] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x -r – out.mp3
[10:28] <requiest> hi all
[10:28] <Ad1_RN> but you must have lame installed
[10:29] <OerHeks> DavidFromBE, it is an item on top, above the process list
[10:29] <requiest> how to disable lightdm in ubuntu 15.04
[10:29] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, it asks me to install lame
[10:29] <Ad1_RN> bumbar_: any lib from this list you can't install?
[10:29] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: do it :D
[10:29] <DavidFromBE> OerHeks: ok, found it : 0 zombie
[10:29] <OerHeks> requiest, ctrl alt F2, login, sudo service lightdm stop
[10:29] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: sudo apt-get install lame
[10:30] <Ad1_RN> it should record to mp3 file
[10:30] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, sorry, which list?
[10:30] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, Could not find "–".
[10:30] <Ad1_RN> bumbar_: list of missing dependencies
[10:30] <Zulu_Too> The sad part about computers is that many people spend lots of time learning about it but what are they going to do with their knowledge? I make $1,000/hour for what I do. I do DATA RECOVERY and more. Computers are not the only thing in life.
[10:30] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, is there something wrong in parameters?
[10:30] <Ad1_RN> arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x -r - out.mp3
[10:30] <requiest> how to disable lightdm in ubuntu 15.04
[10:30] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, its not about money
[10:31] <Ad1_RN> requiest: sudo service lightdm stop
[10:31] <OerHeks> DavidFromBE, then i have no idea how to stop this service without PID, logout/login or maybe a reboot solves this?
[10:31] <requiest> i mean on boot up
[10:31] <l_> use top
[10:31] <OerHeks> Zulu_Too, please move the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, keep the channel clear for support only, thanks.
[10:31] <Zulu_Too> Peaceful, true, but it is about learning. Learning is very important. Everyone must make a living at something. So put your good knowledge to good use.
[10:31] <Ad1_RN> requiest: why? You want use other GUI manager?
[10:32] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, something wrong in parameters?
[10:32] <requiest> i made changes in /etc/default/grub  to text and updated grub
[10:32] <requiest> but it is not taking
[10:32] <DavidFromBE> OerHeks: i'm afraid to reboot the machine, it is a remote box and it failed to reboot earlier, leaving me unable to connect to it
[10:32] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, i'm trying to install cpp-ethereum, which depends on alethzero, which depends on libqt5webengine5, which depends on qtdeclrative-abi-5-4-1, but: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libqt5webengine5 : Depends: qtdeclarative-abi-5-4-1 but it is not installable
[10:32] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, i get this: Could not find "–".
[10:32] <OerHeks> DavidFromBE, then there might be a deeper issue there,..
[10:32] <peaceful> arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x -r -out.mp3
[10:32] <Ad1_RN> hmm
[10:32] <l_> how can this HEXchat not use graphic methods
[10:33] <peaceful> from this command:  arecord -f cd -t raw | lame -x -r – out.mp3
[10:33] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: other char, there are two minus chars
[10:33] <Ad1_RN> -
[10:33] <Nooby_One> thanks again to all ... i followed a link from one of you, and my mkv problem is solved! thanks again!
[10:33] <Ad1_RN> use standard -
[10:33] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, ok
[10:33] <Ad1_RN> peaceful: https://jordilin.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/howto-recording-audio-from-the-command-line/
[10:33] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, i've check online, and apparently qtdeclrative-abi is a virtual package in wily and vivid
[10:34] <peaceful> Ad1_RN, all i hear is noise
[10:34] <Ad1_RN> bumbar_: what version of Ubuntu you have?
[10:34] <OerHeks> Nooby_One, have fun with mkv/hevc
[10:35] <Nooby_One> bedankt, oerheks, thanks
[10:35] <bumbar_> Ad1_RN, 16.04
[10:35] <HackerII> ubuntu+1
[10:36] <Zulu_Too> Peaceful, what type of mic are you using? Dynamic or Ceramic?
[10:36] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, no idea
[10:36] <HackerII> prolly dynamic
[10:36] <peaceful> it's a driver problem
[10:36] <Zulu_Too> It does make a difference Hackerll.
[10:36] <peaceful> not mic problem
[10:36] <HackerII> which uses 5 volts to energize the mic
[10:37] <peaceful> haha
[10:37] <peaceful> you are too much into mic
[10:37] <Zulu_Too> No 5 Volts, no audio Hackerll. True?
[10:37] <Ad1> peaceful: sudo apt-get install libmp3lame0
[10:37] <peaceful> i have driver problem not mic problem
[10:37] <HackerII> true
[10:37] <peaceful> Ad1, alraedy installed
[10:38] <Ad1> peaceful: ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -ar 44100 -i pulse -acodec libmp3lame OUTPUT.mp3
[10:38] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, I don't think sudo apt-get will install 5 volts do you think so?
[10:38] <HackerII> lol
[10:38] <HackerII> the amp has to be triggered for it
[10:38] <DavidFromBE> OerHeks: i have a zombie now
[10:38] <l_> lubutu reduce something from Ubuntu
[10:39] <l_> i perfer mate
[10:39] <Ad1> peaceful: maybe using ffmpeg will be better option
[10:39] <locksmith> l_: have you seen my teddy?
[10:39] <peaceful> Ad1, it work
[10:39] <peaceful> ok thanks
[10:39] <l_> how about dist-upgrade @peaceful
[10:39] <locksmith> I cant sleep without my teddy
[10:39] <Ad1> peaceful: type ffmpeg --help to see what parameters you should use to set quality
[10:40] <requiest> how to disable lightdm in ubuntu 15.04
[10:40] <l_> how old are you ?
[10:40] <requiest> i made changes in /etc/default/grub  to text and updated grub
[10:40] <requiest> i mean on boot up
[10:40] <Zulu_Too> Locksmith then sudo apt-get install-teddy
[10:40] <locksmith> 50
[10:40] <l_> ><!
[10:40] <Ad1> bumbar_: 16.04 isn't stable yet :D
[10:40] <l_> can't be true
[10:41] <peaceful> Ad1, i have sound now
[10:41] <peaceful> i dont know what i did
[10:41] <peaceful> maybe cause i installed audacity
[10:41] <Ad1> peaceful: it's a kind of magic xD
[10:41] <locksmith> -_-
[10:41] <HackerII> good job Ad1
[10:41] <l_> no magic
[10:41] <peaceful> Ad1, that was one of probles
[10:41] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, I have my G.R.O.L. It is most of the question pool for Ham Operators. Ham Operators don't like that.
[10:42] <peaceful> Ad1, do i need to install pulseaudio to enable sound in skype?
[10:42] <Ad1> peaceful: have you got more problems? xD
[10:42] <l_> it's passion between you gays
[10:42] <l_> guys
[10:42] <peaceful> Ad1, yes in skype > Sound Devices it shows Virtual Devices
[10:42] <Ad1> peaceful: can't you set alsa mixer in Skype options?
[10:42] <peaceful> no i cant unfourtuntely
[10:43] <Ad1> peaceful: you can try to install pulseaudio
[10:43] <HackerII> it should be already installed, no ?
[10:43] <Ad1> i've got it in my Xubuntu, and I haven't got any problem with sound in Skype
[10:43] <l_> Did someone see a bear for locksmith?
[10:44] <peaceful> Ad1, you use alsamixer?
[10:44] <Ad1> peaceful: i've got alsamixer and pulseaudio
[10:45] <Ad1> it's standard in Xubuntu
[10:45] <locksmith> did?
[10:45] <peaceful> Ad1, ok
[10:45] <peaceful> i only have alsamixer
[10:45] <peaceful> Ad1, http://postimg.org/image/6xfrbrhtv/
[10:45] <Ad1> Zorin ^^
[10:46] <l_> did
[10:46] <locksmith> hot
[10:46] <HackerII> QasMixer is pretty nice too
[10:46] <peaceful> Ad1, it's ubuntu 14.04
[10:46] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, before I leave here, do you have a personal website? If so you can msg me. Otherwise it has been a pleasure to meet someone who is in the same field.
[10:46] <OerHeks> Ad1 +1
[10:47] <OerHeks> peaceful, clearly ZorinOS
[10:47] <HackerII> Zulu_Too:  get ahold of me later today, and, likewise, glad we met
[10:47] <Ad1> peaceful: yeah, it works with pulseaudio
[10:47] <Ad1> peaceful: look https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2926807/Look/skype_pulseaudio.png
[10:47] <Zulu_Too> It also has been a pleasure to meet all you other folks.
[10:47] <HackerII> there is alot of great helpers here
[10:48] <locksmith> Zulu_Too: goodbye
[10:48] <peaceful> Ad1, yes i installed pulseaudio server and it works
[10:48] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, I believe you. I have a huge website and am looking for people who want to earn lots of money. Ubuntu folks are great.
[10:48] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, you too
[10:48] <HackerII> im retired and rely on my obama check monthly,
[10:49] <HackerII> lol
[10:49] <l_> shut up and take my money
[10:49] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, ok can you help me with some money?
[10:49] <Zulu_Too> I have never seen a bunch of dedicated people doing volunteer work for free. Come to my web site some day in the future and earn big bucks.
[10:49] <l_> show us the website
[10:49] <Ad1> peaceful: no money, no ride :D
[10:50] <l_> bad man
[10:50] <peaceful> YEEEEES
[10:50] <Zulu_Too> I will announce it but be assured there are lots of good Technicians out there that are hurting financially. I can help them.
[10:50] <peaceful> SKYPE WORKS sound works mic works
[10:50] <peaceful> Zulu_Too, whats your website?
[10:51] <Zulu_Too> Thanks guys, Have a nice day good folks.
[10:51] <locksmith> goodnight
[10:51] <Zulu_Too> Nice talking with you all.
[10:51] <Ad1> Zulu_Too: nice too :)
[10:51] <HackerII> catch me here later Zulu_Too
[10:51] <locksmith> happy new year
[10:51] <locksmith> have a good month
[10:51] <Zulu_Too> Hackerll, you have my undivided attention.
[10:51] <HackerII> 10-4
[10:52] <Zulu_Too> :)
[10:52] <HackerII> qsl
[10:52] <Zulu_Too> Over and Out good buddy. hehe
[10:52] <Zulu_Too> -.-. - - . -
[10:53] <HackerII> ... --- ...
[10:53] <Zulu_Too> hehe
[10:53] <locksmith> have a beautiful time
[10:53] <l_> ><!
[10:53] <l_> >_<!
[10:54] <Zulu_Too> sos
[10:54] <Ad1> peaceful: now you can listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-VB9xiArg xD
[10:54] <Zulu_Too> hehe
[10:54] <peaceful> Ad1, whats this?
[10:54] <Ad1> peaceful: look :D
[10:54] <peaceful> Ad1, no im scared
[10:54] <peaceful> what if there's something bad
[10:55] <Ad1> peaceful: yeah, one man one jar ^^
[10:55] <Ad1> haha
[10:55] <Ad1> olny club music
[10:56] <Ad1> i found it by http://www.midomi.com/ music recognizer
[10:56] <dschense> Ive installed a Epson AL-C1100 printer on Ubuntu 15.10 X64 over Cups. Its printing over usb. does anybody know why i cant get it running over network ?
[10:56] <peaceful> Ad1, ok
[10:56] <peaceful> i listen to christian music :)
[10:56] <dschense> CUPS sees the printer over network, but printing is impossible
[10:56] <HackerII> nice
[10:56] <peaceful> Ad1, thanks for help mate
[10:57] <Ad1> dschense: have it ethernet interface?
[10:57] <Ad1> peaceful: you wellcome
[10:57] <dschense> Adl: you mean webpage? or just on ethernet?
[10:58] <Ad1> ethernet interface
[10:58] <Ad1> RJ45
[10:58] <Ad1> LAN
[10:58] <Ad1> or maybe wifi?
[10:58] <dschense> yes. its on ethenet
[10:58] <dschense> no wifi
[10:58] <peaceful> There will be peace in the valley
[10:58] <Ad1> try to search ip address of this printer on your router
[10:58] <l_> it's the driver problem
[10:58] <dschense> its working fine on windows over network. but ubuntu makes some trouble
[10:58] <HackerII> amen
[10:58] <gateshwill> ubuntu works best with a parallel port for printing you should always connect this way
[10:58] <l_> i'm sure about it
[10:59] <Ad1> gateshwill: xD
[10:59] <dschense> its in dnssd://AL-C1100-D092EB._printer._tcp.local/
[10:59] <Ad1> dschense: try to add printer using this address
[11:00] <dschense> ipinfo -v tells me two:
[11:00] <dschense> network dnssd://AL-C1100-D092EB._printer._tcp.local/
[11:00] <dschense> network socket://192.168.178.24
[11:00] <peaceful> Ad1, see you later
[11:00] <Ad1> peaceful: cya :)
[11:01] <Ad1> dschense: you can do it like me, and set static IP address for this printer
[11:01] <Ad1> by MAC address in your router
[11:01] <Ad1> and call printer by IP address
[11:01] <l_> byebye
[11:02] <Ad1> if autodetect drivers fail, you can choose them manually
[11:03] <dschense> I am able to connect to the Configuration page in the browser
[11:03] <dschense> http://192.168.178.24/
[11:03] <dschense> ethernet is working well, but I think the drivers are not working well
[11:04] <Ad1> dschense: what's going on when you try to print something?
[11:05] <Ad1> does not do anything?
[11:05] <dschense> yep
[11:05] <dschense> i am trying to print a testpage
[11:05] <dschense> its telling me everything is well, but for the printer nothing happens
[11:06] <dschense> the printer status is still on idle
[11:06] <TJ-> dschense: probably you need to change the protocol in use, maybe IPP
[11:06] <Ad1> yeah
[11:07] <Ad1> try it
[11:07] <sruli> TJ-: hi, you have time now to help me with my iptables/routing issue?
[11:08] <TJ-> sruli: I'm programming right now; just letting my eyes stray around a bit
[11:08] <sruli> TJ-: np, let me know when u have time
[11:09] <dschense> ipp://192.168.178.24/ is this right ?
[11:10] <Alberto> Hello everyone
[11:10] <TJ-> dschense: could be; or you could try raw "socket://"
[11:10] <Alberto> How can I mount a Windows remote filesystem at boot time in Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:11] <Alberto> I mean, I'm following a guide a found on the internet but it didn't work...
[11:13] <piotrek334> hi ppl, was wondering if this here indicates that these machines are certified for usage with ubuntu: https://kernel.googlesource.com/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/hda-emu/+/222206bcdb935be3a43c23fbfccd5db7e217ff44%5E%21/codecs/canonical/alc221--hp-prodesk-400-g1-sff-ccert-201408-15383 ?
[11:15] <Ad1> Alberto: /etc/fstable
[11:15] <Ad1> fstab *
[11:15] <piotrek334> i currently use arch linux and im experiencing problems with the realtek ACL221 .. sound is all hollow and nearly no bass is noticable
[11:15] <Alberto> Ad1 I forgot to say I'm on Ubuntu 15.10
[11:16] <dschense> @Ad1 tried this. still the same. its finding the printer. it shows me the fill level, but when printing the printer ceeps silence.
[11:17] <bazhang> piotrek334, #archlinux
[11:17] <piotrek334> lol
[11:17] <Ad1> Alberto: //<ip address>/sharedfolder /media/<user name>/sharedfolder-name cifs credentials=/home/<user name>/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,rw,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,sec=ntlm 0 0
[11:17] <Ad1> Alberto: add this line to /etc/fstab
[11:17] <Alberto> Ad1 Thank you very much
[11:17] <piotrek334> im thinking of switching 2 ubuntu if there are no issues with this sound chip..
[11:17] <Ad1> and create .smbcredentials in your home directory
[11:18] <Ad1> and put there username=<username>
[11:18] <piotrek334> (and the link i pasted appeared to me as if the machine im using is certified by canonical (ubuntu)
[11:18] <Ad1> and password=<your password>
[11:18] <Alberto> Ad1 Thank you :)
[11:18] <Ad1> Alberto: :)
[11:19] <Ad1> dschense: hmm, Ubu 15.10?
[11:19] <OerHeks> piotrek334, easy to find out, boot the iso in live mode :-) but yes, i think it will run ubuntu fine, intel hd4400 ..
[11:19] <dschense> Yep 15.10
[11:19] <Ad1> dschense: i've got the same problem with my HP LaserJet P1102w, and I goes to 14.04 LTS :D
[11:19] <piotrek334> kk ill give that a try ;) thx ppl
[11:20] <Ad1> there works fine
[11:20] <dschense> damn. some days till 16.04 release.. switching back to 14.04 hmpf.
[11:21] <Ad1> piotrek334: lspci |grep ACL221
[11:21] <Ad1> dschense: how to live ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:22] <dschense> grrr... ^^ but thanks anyway !
[11:22] <Ad1> dschense: hmm... maybe they will update it and fix this bugs
[11:23] <Ad1> dschense: anyway you can use this printer with USB connection, and share it in your network
[11:24] <Ad1> but then your computer must be turnet on, when somebody want to print something
[11:24] <dschense> year, thats right. thinking about going back to 14.04.. LTS for the wunnin
[11:24] <dschense> any hint for me for rolling back nicely? getting all installed apps back and so on ?
[11:25] <Ad1> dschense: unfortunately 15.10 have some bugs jet
[11:25] <Alberto> Ad1 One last thing... If the name of the shared folder has two words... How should I type it in /etc/fstab?
[11:25] <piotrek334> Ad1: drivers are loading fine, all channels are there but im experiencing strange noise, all hollow and in general metallic-like .. been fiddling with the modprobe options ("/etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf"), but had no luck so far .. strange is that there's the same behaviour under windows which could mean theres a hw-defect .. ubuntu is my last effort to see if it can work :)
[11:26] <piotrek334> ill just give booting the liveiso a try :)
[11:26] <OerHeks> Alberto, shared folder with a space? ugly .. try "folder\ name"
[11:26] <Ad1> dschense: you can try downgrade your distro
[11:27] <kalo90x> ciao
[11:28] <Ad1> dschense: but sometimes it could go wrong :D
[11:28] <Ad1> Alberto: two words with space?
[11:28] <dschense> okay, thats right ;)
[11:29] <Alberto> Ad1 Yes
[11:29] <Ad1> Alberto: better way is don't use spaces in shared folder names
[11:29] <Ad1> use "_"
[11:29] <Alberto> Ad1 Ok, thank you very much again :)
[11:29] <nonsage> hello!
[11:30] <nonsage> I need some advice concerning the blacklisting of nouveau drivers
[11:30] <Ad1> piotrek334: może masz uszkodzoną kartę dźwiękową? :P
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> !pl | Ad1
[11:30] <nonsage> also, Alberto, are you the renowned gfx driver bug killer?
[11:32] <piotrek334> Ad1: no polish, sry :/
[11:32] <Alberto> nonsage I'm not, I'm sorry
[11:32] <piotrek334> Ad1: just like this version of peter :)
[11:32] <nonsage> does anyone in here knows how to blacklist nouveau drivers?
[11:32] <nonsage> I have a hard time installing nvidia ones
[11:32] <Ad1> bots xD
[11:33] <Ad1> Alberto: anyway you can use backslash before space if you can't change shared folder name
[11:34] <Ad1> piotrek334: don't you came from poland? ;)
[11:35] <bazhang> Ad1, please save the chat for the offtopic channel
[11:35] <Ad1> nonsage: do you use Additional drivers in settings to install nvidia drivers?
[11:36] <brute_force> Guys i need your help...in my laptop-keyboard Backspace button is printing ]  instead of removing characters...it is happening every where i mean not only on Terminal wherever i type like document..webpage..etc currently i am using ubunt 14.04 LTS GNOME i am not sure what key i pressed.. :-(
[11:36] <Ad1> or running nvidia(...).run file downloaded from nvidia.com page?
[11:36] <piotrek334> Ad1: no i dont, actually from germany :) i just like the sound of <iotr> --especially if spoken by a beautiful eastern-european woman :)
[11:37] <Ad1> :D
[11:37] <hateball> nonsage: Use additional drivers gui, or this PPA https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:37] <brute_force> Guys i need your help...in my laptop-keyboard Backspace button is printing ]  instead of removing characters...it is happening every where i mean not only on Terminal wherever i type like document..webpage..etc currently i am using ubunt 14.04 LTS GNOME i am not sure what key i pressed.. :-(
[11:37] <hateball> nonsage: That will take care of everything for you automatically
[11:38] <Ad1> brute_force: maybe you have got key binding?
[11:39] <nonsage> no, it doesn't work
[11:39] <nonsage> because it's a known issue
[11:39] <nonsage> I know how to solve it when I can finally install nvidia drivers (at least in a corrupt form)
[11:39] <Ad1> brute_force: look there http://askubuntu.com/a/356501
[11:39] <nonsage> but it's an old geforce fx 5500
[11:40] <brute_force> lokking Ad1 :-_
[11:41] <OerHeks> FX5500, pretty old, not sure it is supported by the 340 driver
[11:41] <hateball> OerHeks, nonsage google suggests it is not. use nvidia-173
[11:42] <hateball> A card that old seems like it would work well with noueveau anyhow
[11:42] <nonsage> look here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/1325408
[11:42] <OerHeks> Yes, should work fine indeed, maybe not with youtube.
[11:43] <OerHeks> ( but nouveau gets better with newer releases)
[11:44] <nonsage> yes. but I need some basic 3d capabilities
[11:44] <hateball> nouveau is not just a 2D driver
[11:45] <Ad1> nonsage: try to install driver from nvidia.com website
[11:45] <hateball> nonsage: Are you having an actual problem, or just looking to install the binary driver anyhow?
[11:45] <Ad1> but older version
[11:45] <Ad1> first you must turn off lightdm service using sudo service lightdm stop
[11:45] <OerHeks> Ad1, wrong advise, he should try the official driver ppa, as hateball gave earlier.
[11:46] <Ad1> and run nvidia.run file
[11:46] <nonsage> did that
[11:46] <Ad1> nonsage: and?
[11:46] <nonsage> prompted me
[11:46] <hateball> OerHeks: to be fair that PPA does not have 173, 340 is the oldest. I'm not sure if that works for that card as well tho
[11:46] <nonsage> that nouveau drivers are still installed
[11:47] <OerHeks> i think it is a waste of time, looking for an older driver, as Xorg does not handle those anymore.
[11:47] <nonsage> well, you're wrong
[11:47] <nonsage> I know a workaround
[11:47] <Ad1> hateball: no, i've seen 173 yesterday, when i was installing xubuntu on older PI
[11:47] <Ad1> PC
[11:47] <nonsage> this workaround has been tested
[11:47] <nonsage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173/+bug/1325408
[11:47] <OerHeks> hateball, i remember that 304 didn't support 9200/5500/5200
[11:47] <hateball> OerHeks: Alright
[11:48] <hateball> Ad1: It's included in trusty, but not in the graphics-drivers ppa
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> nonsage: how about lubuntu/xubuntu work better on that card?
[11:48] <Ad1> hateball: hmm... it could, i've been installing xubuntu 14.04
[11:51] <hateball> nonsage: if you *really* want to blacklist nouveau, then you can do: echo "blacklist nouveau" |sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
[11:51] <hateball> But... unless you are having problems with nouveau I don't see why
[11:51] <Ad1> sudo apt-get remove :D
[11:56] <_SLM_> Ah! I got my nvidea laptop card to work with nvidea driver without problem! I joined here, worried sick, seeing a conversation happening exactly on what I joined here for in case I had problems again, that got me even more worried... but it seems to work
[11:56] <_SLM_> lol
[11:58] <_SLM_> And I fully agree X.org driver is totally fine... until you wanna play a 3D game :)
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> !yay | _SLM_
[11:59] <_SLM_> :D
[12:00] <rolande> hello
[12:01] <Xano> I'm trying to remove stale VMWare network interfaces. ifconfig -a lists them as being down. The internet told me to remove them from /etc/network/interfaces, but they're not there. It's not obvious to me where I should be looking to remove them instead.
[12:02] <hateball> Xano: nothing under /etc/network/interfaces.d/ ?
[12:02] <rolande> il y a qqu?
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> !fr | rolande
[12:03] <nonsage> hateball, will it work?
[12:03] <nonsage> I want to make sure that initramfs is updated
[12:03] <Xano> hateball, Empty dir
[12:03] <nonsage> or whatever is the kernel file that excludes nouveau
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> Xano: try #vmware
[12:04] <hateball> nonsage: it will blacklist the module from being loaded when your kernel loads
[12:05] <Xano> lotuspsychje, They're stale because of a VMWare bug, so I figure I just have to use Ubuntu to remove them. The VM itself is gone, so there's nothing VMWare can do about this anymore.
[12:06] <nonsage> I did this echo "blacklist nouveau" |sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf
[12:06] <nonsage> now I should reboot, right? What if after the reboot there will be no X interface to display, given the blacklisted nouveau drivers?
[12:08] <hateball> nonsage: Then you install the driver from nvidia on tty1
[12:09] <nonsage> okay, goo
[12:09] <nonsage> good
[12:09] <hateball> nonsage: and as you may have guessed, you can either comment out the line in that file, or remove it entirely to remove the blacklist
[12:10] <miguel> hola
[12:11] <Guest72103> hoola
[12:13] <Xano> Can I remove devices from /sys/devices/virtual/net/, or is there a better way to get rid of them?
[12:13] <Xano> hateball, ^^
[12:13] <Xano> hateball, That's where I finally found them
[12:14] <hateball> Xano: What software put them there in the first place? And as someone said, asking in #vmware might be better
[12:15] <Xano> hateball, VMWare, which messed up. As I mentioned the VM itself is gone and VMWare does not seem to know about these interfaces anymore.
[12:15] <hateball> Xano: Vmware is a company
[12:15] <Xano> VMWare Workstation Pro ;-)
[12:15] <Xano> But why it is so unusual to remove virtual network interfaces through CLI?
[12:17] <hateball> Xano: And you've already removed the product itself?
[12:17] <Xano> hateball, The VM has been destroyed, yes.
[12:18] <hateball> Xano: A VM running inside Workstation?
[12:18] <Xano> hateball, Yes
[12:18] <hateball> Xano: So you've still got VMware Workstation itself installed?
[12:18] <Xano> hateball, Yes
[12:18] <hateball> Xano: And the interfaces persist after reboot?
[12:18] <Xano> hateball, Yes
[12:18] <Xano> hateball, They are down, but they persist
[12:19] <hateball> Xano: Any related entries in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?
[12:20] <MyWay> thank you all
[12:20] <Xano> hateball, /etc/udev/rules.d is empty
[12:22] <hateball> Xano: Is this 15.10? I am on 14.04 but I don't think that has been deprecated by systemd...
[12:24] <hateball> Xano: Seems unlike you would have no files in that directory
[12:24] <Xano> hateball, 15.10 indeed. http://pastebin.com/ir8705hs
[12:24] <hateball> hmmm
[12:25] <hateball> Xano: Then I don't know off the bat, and I have no 15.10 nearby to check. I saw you asked in #vmware tho, so they may respond there as well
[12:25] <hateball> Anyhows, now details are know, perhaps someone else will know
[12:25] <Xano> hateball, No problem. Thanks a lot for your time so far :)
[12:27] <malex__> hhello can someone tell me a partition scheme for 1 tb hdd for ubuntu 14.04 install?
[12:28] <wahyu> what a function for this instruction?
[12:29] <wahyu> what a function for this instruction > apt-get -f install
[12:30] <hateball> malex__: It all depends on how you use your machine, only you know this. The upside is that as long as you separate /home you can always resize things later on using gparted-live
[12:30] <wahyu> i dont know about > -f install
[12:32] <malex__> i have already installed ubuntu 14.04.3 and im afraid that i did the partitioning wrong 1-root 25 gb 2-home 900000 gb 3-swap 2 gb its corect?
[12:33] <k1l> wahyu: "sudo apt-get install -f" tries to install all packages that got canceled due to an error
[12:34] <k1l> malex__: swap = ram size. if you want to do hibernation(suspend to disk). the rest looks good
[12:34] <hateball> malex__: depending on how much software you install you may need to have larger root, but as I said you can always adjust this. For a "normal" user it should be plenty.
[12:34] <hateball> malex__: If you do not use suspend, and have a lot of ram, well... you dont need swap at all
[12:34] <k1l> 25GB is very plenty. i suggest using 15GB for /. so he should be fine
[12:35] <malex__> 4gb ram
[12:35] <hateball> Then you'll want to have some swap
[12:35] <k1l> malex__: so make swap 4gb.
[12:35] <malex__> ok thank you very much guys
[12:44] <wahyu> kil : yes i know that to instal a package must be complete with a dependency. but i dont know, what a instruction > -f install.
[12:45] <k1l> wahyu: "sudo apt-get install -f" you dont need to put a package name at the end
[12:46] <k1l> (if i understand you correctly)
[12:47] <malex__> a terminal comand to see what drivers ived got installed?
[12:48] <hateball> malex__: there are plenty, anything in specific you are looking for?
[12:48] <malex__> bluetooth
[12:49] <malex__> doesnt work
[12:49] <hateball> malex__: if it needs restricted drivers, then you can use the ubuntu-drivers command
[12:50] <hateball> malex__: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" will installing anything deemed needed and missing
[12:50] <k1l> malex__: see "rfkill list" if anything is blocked
[12:50] <malex__> ok let me check
[12:52] <malex__> it says to me that no drivers need to install
[12:54] <OerHeks> malex__, what BT chip exactly? terminal :  lspci  # should give a list
[12:54] <logikos> I have some sshfs mounts setup in /etc/fstab that do not seem to be working right on boot, when I boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14575002/
[12:55] <logikos> if i do $ sudo fusermount -u /the/location .. then click on the location again in file manager it auto re-mounts it correctly
[12:55] <logikos> but at boot time ... not
[12:55] <logikos> tempcke@r4p17:/usr/vol1                                 /home/tempcke/mnt/drivet          fuse.sshfs delay_connect,_netdev,user,idmap=user,transform_symlinks,identityfile=/home/tempcke/.ssh/kona_rsa,default_permissions,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[12:55] <logikos> that is an example fstab entry
[12:55] <logikos> what am i doing wrong please?
[12:56] <malex__> OerHeks it doesnt sya
[12:56] <malex__> say
[12:56] <TJ-> logikos: is the "tempcke" home directory encrypted?
[12:56] <OerHeks> malex__, oke, is there a wifi chip? nowadays there are BT/wifi combo chips, that could explain your issue.
[12:56] <logikos> TJ-:  no
[12:57] <logikos> and it is the user i'm logging in as
[12:57] <malex__>  RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[12:58] <malex__> i did the rfkill list and says me this at bluetooth
[12:58] <malex__> deapad_bluetooth: Bluetooth
[12:58] <malex__> 	Soft blocked: yes
[12:58] <malex__> 	Hard blocked: no
[12:59] <logikos> any suggestions please?
[13:00] <OerHeks> malex__, acer laptop ?
[13:00] <malex__> lenovo g50-45
[13:00] <TJ-> logikos: 2 things I'd query. does sshfs pass-through the identityfile, and shouldn't it be passing the .pub (public certificate) not the private key?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> !patience | logikos re-ask your issue here once in a while in 1 line
[13:02] <ladrua> Hello, could anyone with some OpenStack-Autopilot skills check out my question on askubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/722899/openstack-autopilot-unable-to-boot-from-imagecreates-new-volume-error
[13:03] <logikos> TJ-: regarding the identity file: http://www.variux.com/sshfs-automount-at-boot-with-fstab-on-ubuntu-14-04/
[13:03] <logikos> i used that as an example when setting up my fstab
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> ladrua: maybe the #openstack guys know howto?
[13:03] <OerHeks> malex__, oke, see the 1st answer, use the PPA >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/607339/rtl8723be-bluetooth-does-not-work
[13:04] <logikos> right or wrong i dont know, but they referenced the private key, i assumed it knows where the public key is as it is the same path just with .pub
[13:04] <malex__> ok OerHeks i will look thank you
[13:04] <ladrua> lotuspsychje: I think this is autopilot specific..
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> ladrua: ok no sweat, just trying to give you more options
[13:05] <TJ-> logikos: presumably yes. does the same command work from the command line when run as root/UID 0?
[13:05] <ladrua> lotuspsychje: thats good, thanks :)
[13:06] <logikos> TJ-: the fstab line? .. i did not know you could take that line and execute it as a command
[13:07] <logikos> and you cant ...
[13:07] <logikos> what do i need to prefix it with?
[13:07] <logikos> if i do ssh -i /loc/of/identity/file user@remothost
[13:07] <logikos> it works fine
[13:08] <logikos> and if i fusermount -u to unmount these incorectly mounted items then click on them in thunar they then mount correctly with the current fstab entries
[13:08] <TJ-> logikos: "man sshfs"
[13:09] <logikos> sshfs works
[13:09] <logikos> though i do not pass all those options
[13:10] <TJ-> logikos: copy the options as-is; see if you get an error. Run "sudo sshfs ..." to use root in case that makes a difference.
[13:10] <TJ-> logikos: at boot-time the shell environment will be different too; so it could be down to something required in the env
[13:12] <ladrua> is there maybe a channel for OpenStack Autopilot?
[13:12] <logikos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14575076/
[13:13] <TJ-> logikos: you need to preceed all those options with "-o "
[13:14] <logikos> so replace the ',' 's with ' -o '
[13:14] <logikos> ?
[13:14] <TJ-> logikos: no, just put "-o " before the list of comma-separated options
[13:14] <logikos> what about the final 0 0
[13:15] <logikos> take them off ?
[13:15] <TJ-> logikos: yes, they're specific to the fstab fields, not sshfs
[13:18] <logikos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14575094/
[13:18] <ioria> logikos, from  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS  :   sshfs -o idmap=user $USER@remote_host:/projects  ~/far_projects
[13:20] <logikos> ioria: i can get sshfs to work just with sshfs myuser@remotehost:/remote/path /local/mount/path
[13:20] <logikos> right now i'm trying to get fstab to work
[13:21] <ioria> logikos, sshfs#$USER@far:/projects /home/$USER/far_projects fuse defaults,idmap=user 0 0     this not working ?
[13:21] <logikos> so i'm trying to test the junk i have in fstab from the commandline using sshfs directly (i think)
[13:22] <logikos> i dont understand what all the options are but i know for sure i need identityfile=/home/tempcke/.ssh/kona_rsa that option
[13:22] <logikos> on boot it doesnt work but if i fusermount -u it then click it again in thunar
[13:22] <logikos> it re executes the fstab mount then works
[13:23] <logikos> so it must be the environment as TJ- said
[13:23] <logikos> all of these fstab entires worked when i first added them yesterday
[13:23] <logikos> i only noticed an issue when i rebooted
[13:23] <logikos> after i added them and then click on the location in thunar they mount and work fine
[13:23] <logikos> but on boot for some reason.. its all messed up
[13:27] <baboon`> I had a problem like that, on mounting at boot. It's simply that it tried to mount before the network is up.
[13:27] <TJ-> logikos: check in /var/log/auth.log whether thunar is using the complete (options) from the fstab entry. Generally user-session tools will use something like udisks (system<>user-session interface)
[13:32] <logikos> TJ-:  you mean /var/log/auth.log on remote system or local?
[13:32] <logikos> on local system i dont see anything in there when thunar does the mount
[13:39] <qwd> I did a apt-get dist-upgrade a few days ago got kernel panic when trying to boot. Now I selected the older kernel and got in but get this when trying to dist-upgrade again https://paste.ubuntu.com/14575173/ anyone see what's wrong?
[13:40] <qwd> I've also done "sudo dpkg --configure -a", "sudo apt-get autoclean" and "sudo apt-get autoremove" which hasn't solved the problem.
[13:43] <Guest30072> hi
[13:44] <jophish> is there a way to install using the minimal iso with a urfi system
[13:44] <jophish> uefi*
[13:45] <jophish> going through the bios compatability mode doesn't work
[13:45] <reese_> nothing works with ios compatibility anymore XD
[13:45] <reese_> bios
[13:45] <ioria> logikos, maybe it does not  umount correctly  ....
[13:46] <DJones> jophish: Doesn't look like you can, While the minimal iso image is handy, it isn't useful for installing on UEFI-based systems that you want to run in UEFI mode. The mini iso lacks the proper files for booting the computer in UEFI mode. Thus, the computer will boot in BIOS compatibility mode, and the installation will be in BIOS mode.
[13:46] <DJones> jophish: Thats from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[13:46] <jophish> yeah, I read that. I was hoping someone in the channel had a solution :)
[13:46] <jophish> the minimal cd is so much nicer :)
[13:47] <logikos> ioria: correct it doesnt mount correcty on boot
[13:47] <logikos> but after its booted if i unmount the incorectly mounted mount then click it again it re mounts just fine
[13:48] <jophish> hmm: "untrusted versions will be installed"
[13:49] <Arjun_> I am installing openstack using ubuntu openstack installer on single node
[13:49] <Arjun_> How much time it will take to install
[13:50] <Arjun_> can anybody help with how much time it will take to complete installation
[13:50] <Arjun_> ?
[13:51] <ioria> logikos, delay_connect  option ?
[13:51] <qwd> I manually removed a few older kernels with apt-get remove which seems to  have solved the problem.
[13:52] <Arjun_> I am installing openstack using ubuntu openstack installer on single node..  can anybody help with how much time it will take to complete installation?
[13:53] <mojdjdj> Guys, I'm using vim inside a VM on windows and it displays text from the previous file like this: http://imgur.com/WrIaaDI
[13:53] <mojdjdj> Does anybody know how to fix this?
[13:56] <k1l> mojdjdj: that looks not like an ubuntu issue. please ask the cmder guys
[14:00] <solvarr> hey guys
[14:01] <solvarr> my left arrow key stopped working after i ugpraded plasma to version 5.5.3
[14:01] <solvarr> it works in other desktop environments
[14:02] <solvarr> in KDE it seems like it's doing something else than goes left
[14:02] <solvarr> going*
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> solvarr: maybe the #kubuntu guys know this specificly?
[14:02] <solvarr> I've asked the same question there
[14:02] <solvarr> still waiting for a reply
[14:10] <BriZZell> hi any Cinnamon users
[14:11] <Silenced> You are in a ubuntu channel BriZZell
[14:11] <k1l> BriZZell: maybe :)   better ask your specific question so people can see if they can help
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ladrua: #ubuntu-autopilot
[14:15] <BriZZell> i have the Cin/DE running but am not sure if it is running right etc i cant get applets
[14:18] <e-dard> Hi, I have the following upstart script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14575320/ when I run the job with $ sudo start myjob two things happen: (1) the jobs just keeps repeatedly starting after it's finished; (2) the respawn limit is not respected (as in it goes on restarting past the limit)
[14:18] <e-dard> Any ideas/
[14:19] <hilkert> hi, I have ubuntu 14.4.3 installed here but my wifi doesn't work (it doesn't even recognized it)
[14:20] <kien> hilkert, maybe the kernel doesn't support your card wifi
[14:20] <hilkert> :-/
[14:21] <kien> have you ever use another linux distro ?
[14:21] <kien> did they work with your wifi ?
[14:21] <teward> hilkert: pastebin the output of `lspci`
[14:21] <teward> hilkert: so we can see if your system actually detects the network card
[14:23] <hilkert> teward, http://paste.ubuntu.net/14575345/
[14:23] <hilkert> kien, nope, I just wiped out windows 10 and installed ubuntu
[14:24] <hateball> hilkert: do you at least have ethernet ?
[14:24] <hilkert> hateball, yes
[14:24] <hilkert> I am typing from ubuntu right now
[14:24] <e-dard> Also, just to confirm, the exit code from my shell script all.sh is 0!
[14:25] <e-dard> Why would upstart restart a job when the script exits with a 0??
[14:26] <hateball> hilkert: It could be the wifi chipset you're using does not work with the kernel in trusty. You have a few options to test it
[14:26] <jshier> bonjour
[14:27] <hateball> hilkert: one is to "sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-wily" which installs the kernel from 15.10. You can then reboot and try that
[14:27] <hateball> hilkert: if you have a thumbdrive or other you can also try downloading the 15.10 ISO to it and liveboot, see if it works
[14:27] <jshier> hello
[14:27] <kien> jshier, hello :D
[14:28] <jshier> what's the channel for ubuntu problem ?
[14:28] <jshier> can i ask something  ?
[14:28] <hateball> !help | jshier
[14:29] <jshier> ok thank you
[14:29] <hateball> hilkert: I've got intel wifi myself, it was pretty unreliable with kernel 3.13 (which 14.04 uses)
[14:30] <hilkert> 3.19 here now I think
[14:32] <hateball> hilkert:  Right, it could be updated with 14.04.3 that's right. Still, you could try my suggestions above.
[14:32] <hateball> hilkert: Also, do you see no networks at all? Or does it refuse to connect?
[14:32] <hilkert> hateball, no networks at all
[14:32] <hilkert> btw thanks, I will try with newer kernels
[14:32] <hilkert> I see some of them in repo newer (4.2)
[14:33] <hateball> hilkert: yes install linux-image-generic-lts-wily
[14:36] <hilkert> hateball, will do...so it gets usually inside kernel - it is not a separate package?
[14:36] <hilkert> I mean for the intel wireless
[14:36] <hateball> hilkert: nope, intel stuff is in kernel
[14:37] <hilkert> hateball, k, thanks
[14:37] <hilkert> cheers
[14:42] <easyOnMe> hi
[14:42] <easyOnMe> a file in linux that ends with a .bin extension is usually for what purpose
[14:44] <ikonia> binary installer
[14:44] <ikonia> be cautious when trying to run
[14:45] <ikonia> unless you know it and trust it
[14:53] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[14:53] <r0x_> Bugs everywhere!
[14:53] <Umeaboy> Are there any plans on updating phablet-tools and/or repo in 15.10?
[14:53] <Umeaboy> They are both outdated.
[14:53] <Umeaboy> Mostly phablet-tools anyway.
[14:53] <Umeaboy> Reports HAVE been made.
[14:53] <Umeaboy> So that's not the problem.
[14:54] <xangua> ! Latest | Umeaboy
[15:00] <r0x_> Hi
[15:01] <r0x_> Do you know where I can find a classification of linux distros based on the kernel version that they use?
[15:02] <bazhang> distrowatch.com r0x_
[15:02] <OerHeks> r0x_, maybe distrowatch?
[15:02] <OerHeks> that would be a huge list, as there are many kernels out there.
[15:03] <r0x_> but I cannot find a way to get a list of distros based on the kernel version, on distrowatch
[15:04] <OerHeks> r0x_, i don't know of any other site that has such data, guess you have to check them manually
[15:04] <OerHeks> e.g. kernel on release, and current kernel
[15:06] <anabain> (15.10) I need some help with kdeconnect. My Xiaomi 1S connected once fine but the second time I tried I couldn't. My kde desktop complained about some crash with kdeconnectd, I think. Can I restart something or delete some corrupt config file, or is it simply the nth kde bug?
[15:11] <solit> guys can u help with xchat ?
[15:12] <ballmer> solit: what's your question?  if not, there's a #xchat too
[15:15] <anabain> solit, some people say xchat is abandonware and that hexchat should be used instead. I followed their advice and so far I'm happy with the new app
[15:17] <ChiLLabiS> Hexchat is good :) i use it on both linux and windows :)
[15:18] <jerbot> I found out the G4 uses radeon graphics, but I didn't use the yaboot video=ofonly command.  Is there a way to change it post-system-install?
[15:21] <jerbot> I do have access to terminal
[15:23] <arcsky> hi guys why cant i do sudo ifconfig tun0 up ?
[15:24] <rom1504> because god decided against it
[15:27] <arcsky> hehe
[15:27] <arcsky> does god knows how to fix it ?
[15:28] <jerbot> I'm assuming: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#How_do_I_make_a_yaboot_parameter_permanent.3F
[15:28] <jerbot> if I add to the append: append="quiet splash video=ofonly" ?
[15:29] <jerbot> arcsky: actually, doing pretty good now.  I'm going to try upgrading the ram from 512 to a gig (see if that helps).  A lot of things work on 14.04, now.
[15:29] <jerbot> i'm still having video issues.
[15:34] <jerbot> really strange. the desktop is white and checkered, but the applications in the foreground usually work.
[15:36] <rom1504> arcsky: only if he provided you the error message showing you "can't sudo ifconfig tun0 up"
[15:36] <Dimroy> #reprap-fr
[15:37] <eagle_> is anybody here?
[15:38] <OerHeks> eagle_, nope, others are
[15:38] <rom1504> eagle_: no, you are alone, well except god, but he is already busy helping arcsky
[15:38] <eagle_> i am helpless , how to install mono
[15:38] <eagle_> rom1504, who is arcsky :(
[15:38] <rom1504> apt-get install mono
[15:39] <rom1504> !next
[15:39] <eagle_> rom1504, ok
[15:39] <eagle_> OerHeks, hmmmmmm
[15:39] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install mono-complete
[15:39] <eagle_> OerHeks, yippiiii, i was trying to understand official website of mono for the last 15 minutes, they have 3 packages
[15:40] <bigboy69> hey
[15:41] <bigboy69> I posted here a few days ago about my battery indicator giving an incorrect status
[15:41] <arcsky> rom1504: tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[15:41] <OerHeks> mono-devel should be installed to compile code, mono-complete should be installed to install everything
[15:41] <eagle_> but no where there is mentioned any particular criteria except some stupid sign key of mono .....
[15:42] <eagle_> OerHeks, ok
[15:42] <bigboy69> well, it turns out that it's totally normal for it to do that it wouldn't say explicitly under windows
[15:42] <bigboy69> but it's the same
[15:42] <bigboy69> now my problem is my harddisk
[15:42] <bigboy69> it keeps spinning up really regularly
[15:42] <sot> hi
[15:43] <eagle_> OerHeks, is there anyway you could guide me to understand linux partition system :( , any good article or any source you found very much informative
[15:43] <bigboy69> it will spin excessively unless I execute:
[15:43] <bigboy69> sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda
[15:43] <eagle_> mono is installing ...
[15:43] <bigboy69> how do I stop this?
[15:44] <bigboy69> or make it so it automatically executes it
[15:44] <OerHeks> eagle_, good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes
[15:45] <eagle_> ok
[15:45] <rom1504> arcsky: did you create the tun0 interface ?
[15:45] <eagle_> OerHeks, but not a good start, i want extensive system analyzable view ... anyhow no worries .....
[15:54] <Michy85> !lista
[16:00] <Boing> Hi folks!  Equinox 3d on the apt-get list, but it won't run right.  How Do I use terminal to remove it?
[16:01] <bramgn> Boing: you want to uninstall? apt-get can do that for you.
[16:01] <Boing> K, how?
[16:02] <bramgn> Boing: if you have a look at the manual of apt-get, you will see that 'apt-get remove' will take care of that job.
[16:02] <Boing> 10-4
[16:02] <Boing> \ok
[16:02] <Boing> apt-get help
[16:04] <OerHeks> Boing, how did you install that? it is not in our repositories
[16:06] <easyOnMe> Installing for current user only. To install for all users, restart this installer as root.
[16:06] <easyOnMe> how to do I get myself as root
[16:06] <Boing> Super apt-get thing..Ubuntu Software Center got it for me, and It does not.. install, it said to run it in the path.. eqx was the file to run, and it did display a 3d session editor, but did not work.. seemed not to work correctly.
[16:06] <easyOnMe> please help
[16:06] <ikonia> easyOnMe: lets step back a little
[16:06] <ikonia> easyOnMe: what are you trying to install ?
[16:06] <easyOnMe> genymotion
[16:07] <ikonia> easyOnMe: have you purchased this ?
[16:07] <easyOnMe> I was following the installation instructions to the letter so got this when asked I aborted
[16:07] <OerHeks> Boing, not clear to me, Equinox 3d is not in our repos, did you add a PPA perhaps?
[16:07] <easyOnMe> no it is free
[16:08] <easyOnMe> I downloaded it from their website
[16:08] <easyOnMe> and it is legit
[16:08] <dschense> Is there a fix for Compiz 3d windows effect on 14.04 LTS ?
[16:09] <dschense> cube is running fine without it, but when activating the 3d windows effect it gets screen errors when rotating the cube
[16:09] <dschense> (on 15.10 its working)
[16:09] <ikonia> easyOnMe: where did you download
[16:09] <ikonia> easyOnMe: lets take a look at what you're using and the restrictions around it's installer
[16:09] <easyOnMe> genymotion website
[16:10] <ikonia> easyOnMe: can you show me the download link please
[16:10] <ikonia> as the Geny Motion website suggests it's purchase only (as far as I can see)
[16:10] <ikonia> so save me some time
[16:10] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, "To enjoy all Genymotion features, you must purchase a license." .. to start the installer for all users, use sudo
[16:10] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: oh ok
[16:10] <easyOnMe> ikonia: https://www.genymotion.com/#!/download/freemium/linux/ubuntu1410AndLess/x86
[16:10] <ikonia> super, thank you
[16:11] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: thanks you so much
[16:11] <easyOnMe> that did it
[16:11] <Boing> I need to sudo apt-get ? to remove it ?
[16:11] <ikonia> easyOnMe: ok - so the root install dumps it into /opt
[16:12] <ikonia> easyOnMe: if you open the bin file in a text editor, you'll see it's just a shell script
[16:12] <ikonia> easyOnMe: I'd question if you need to install this as root as it looks like it will install into your home directory if you don't use a root user
[16:12] <ikonia> I've not read the full script yet
[16:13] <OerHeks> Boing, did you add a PPA perhaps?
[16:13] <OerHeks> Boing, if so, use ppa-purge
[16:13] <Boing>  What tis PPA ?
[16:13] <dschense> +Ad1 online?
[16:13] <easyOnMe> ikonia: I really do not bother at all so long as I can now use it
[16:14] <Boing> It can't find this .equinox directory folder.
[16:14] <easyOnMe> I need it for my thesis project
[16:15] <NeoFrontier> where does evolution store its signatures ?
[16:15] <Seveas> NeoFrontier: ~/.config/evolution/signatures
[16:15] <OerHeks> Boing, if you cannot tell how you installed Equinox 3d, i have no clue
[16:16] <NeoFrontier> ah
[16:16] <NeoFrontier> ty seveas
[16:18] <Boing> OerHeks - it came as a tarball and was told Readme, to untar and then could link on desktop. I Did so, but then the program does not function correctly, and whigs out.. screen drops/quits , and it acted strangely.
[16:18] <OerHeks> Boing, oke, then remove the folder from your /home/, should do it
[16:19] <Boing> ah. will do.
[16:19] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: thanks so much for you help
[16:19] <easyOnMe> ikonia: thanks so much for the guidance
[16:20] <Boing> Thanks OerHeks
[16:21] <Boing> Also wanna say, I could not get the game Ryzom, to install...
[16:21] <Boing> But is OK cause I dun wanna
[16:22] <Boing> Major thing I have problem with is an EFI dual booting Ubuntu.
[16:24] <Boing> Loaded winders 10, and restarted.  I get a windows page says what do I want to load.  Then clicks Ubuntu, and up comes another screen what asks me to select Ubuntu, and some other things.
[16:25] <icansmellyou_> grub boot loader?
[16:26] <Boing> So, there is two asking me what do I want to load pages, and at first I have to go to Firmware page hit escape, then f-9 so the ubuntu will load it's page
[16:27] <icansmellyou_> the first page should be the grub boot loader.
[16:27] <icansmellyou_> it will ask what you want to load
[16:27] <Boing> Yeah, I used wubi from the test disk (live image on cd) and it put this ubuntu on my pc. but then grub did something.
[16:27] <kuru> Hello everyone. Have quick question. When I shutdown my PC with ubuntu, I see some of the terminal window, where all my keyboard input is logged. What can cause that?
[16:28] <Boing> And, Ubuntu said yesterday, my windows was still in hibernate, I needed to shut it down before I could load Ubuntu
[16:28] <mrkie> i just did a fresh ubuntu installation, when i did the installation i did enter the user mark (so it's the superuser), now i installed apache and only root can write to /var/www/html, is that normal?
[16:28] <bonzibuddy> mrkie yep thats the default
[16:28] <bonzibuddy> mrkie for better or worse ;)
[16:28] <icansmellyou_> mrkie, yes that is normal
[16:29] <Boing> I finally got the Windows.. to be shut down, but it was NOT in hibernate
[16:29] <Boing> And, looking from Ubuntu at windows, the Ubunto saying my NTFS is not mounted
[16:30] <icansmellyou_> Boing, your running ubuntu and windows? is that correct?
[16:30] <OerHeks> patch is out, please update http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0728.html
[16:30] <Boing> Yes icansmell
[16:30] <icansmellyou_> is the ubuntu a fresh install?
[16:30] <mrkie> icansmellyou_/bonzibuddy/others: it hasnt to do that when i did the install i entered / as being a mount point?
[16:31] <bonzibuddy> mrkie: nope - thats just the way ubuntu sets it up by default
[16:31] <Boing> from the image downloaded burnt to disk then run from disk, and installed by the on disk
[16:31] <mrkie> can't remember it was like that before
[16:31] <bonzibuddy> mrkie: other distros will do it differently
[16:32] <icansmellyou_> i would try to remove grub and ubuntu and reinstall. you need to be careful when removing grub though because it can jack up windows if it is done wrong.
[16:32] <Boing> Fresh?  I have installed other stuff, and have data
[16:32] <nicomachus> after installing a new RAM stick into my laptop (in addition to the 1 original stick), each Kernel upgrade has struggled with creating an initrd, and briefly hangs on ": Unable to find an initial ram disk that I know how to handle. / Will not try to make an initrd". The upgrade eventually succeeds, but do I need to do something to introduce initrd and the new RAM disk to each other? Buy them dinner, flo
[16:32] <nicomachus> wers?
[16:32] <simonepsp> Hello everyone
[16:32] <icansmellyou_> Boing, is it windows 7?
[16:32] <icansmellyou_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSYGkSptSy4
[16:32] <Boing> No. 10
[16:33] <icansmellyou_> same steps might apply
[16:33] <icansmellyou_> check out that video
[16:33] <Boing> will do
[16:34] <nicomachus> full dist-upgrade pastebin, with the error on lines 49-54: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14575996/
[16:35] <simonepsp> I'm trying to compile osmocombb (http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/Software/GettingStarted) but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/zJvG4gsu Someone could please help me? Thanks :)
[16:36] <lahaugen87> Dualbooting Windows and cant access HD on Ubuntu? Windows "claims" HDD's unless you uncheck some option by default. Never really turn off to save you some seconds on bootup
[16:36] <nicomachus> simonepsp: you installed the dependencies listed on the site?
[16:36] <simonepsp> nicomachus: sure, all the dependecies (including the arm toolchain)
[16:36] <simonepsp> nicomachus: I get an error about undefined reference to _talloc_free
[16:38] <nicomachus> simonepsp: sounds to me like an issue with the makefile, but can't be sure.
[16:39] <simonepsp> nicomachus: I've compiled it on another pc (with archlinux). No problems on it
[16:39] <nicomachus> well, arch != ubuntu
[16:39] <simonepsp> nnicomachus: yes, obviously :D
[16:40] <simonepsp> nicomachus: but it should compile even with ubuntu...also, the guide is written for debian based distros
[16:40] <jimmy16> Aeelo mates
[16:40] <jimmy16> x11x13$W
[16:41] <nicomachus> hi jimmy16
[16:45] <Boing> Ubuntu Mate for this i5 Broadwell with Compiz ?
[16:45] <nicomachus> Boing: what about it?
[16:46] <Boing> would it be good?
[16:46] <nicomachus> Sure. It would work.
[16:46] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: what is the terminal command to show the hardward properties of my laptop running ubuntu
[16:46] <nicomachus> lshw
[16:47] <nicomachus> easyOnMe: ^
[16:47] <easyOnMe> nicomachus: thanks so much man
[16:48] <jimmy16> hello!
[16:48] <nicomachus> yes hi jimmy16
[16:48] <nicomachus> do you have a question?
[16:48] <jimmy16> my telinit 3 crashes the trem
[16:49] <kuru> Hey everyone. Have quick question. When I shutdown my PC with ubuntu, I see some of the terminal window, where all my keyboard input is logged. What can cause that? or at least what to google?
[16:49] <easyOnMe> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14576080/
[16:49] <nicomachus> kuru: what kind of things do you see?
[16:49] <easyOnMe> how do I know whether my laptop support virtualization
[16:50] <wytrzeszcz> ;)
[16:50] <wytrzeszcz> anywho using tmux?
[16:50] <nicomachus> easyOnMe: look for your CPU on this list: http://ark.intel.com/Products/VirtualizationTechnology
[16:50] <nicomachus> wytrzeszcz: I'm sure someone does. perhaps asking your real question will get you an answer
[16:50] <Boing> wow, I think i deleted equinox, and just to test, tried the desktop link.. and it comes up
[16:51] <kuru> @nucimachus - I see all typed passwords, and escape keys, and everything that I enter previously in terminal
[16:51] <wytrzeszcz> i have problem like that: tmux on one small terminal works and if i attach on biger on i have dots becous all sesion windows must have same size
[16:51] <kuru> @ nicomachus - just like plain text
[16:51] <jimmy16> Ok how do i set 15.1 to boot to run level 3 su all the time
[16:51] <nicomachus> kuru: whoa, hold up. You see passwords in plain text?
[16:51] <wytrzeszcz> i understadn it but how to detach session <name> on all terminals and attach on that one what i use?
[16:51] <kuru> yes
[16:51] <kuru> that;s why I am worrying)
[16:52] <bulletxt> hi, does ubuntu 12.04 have a kernel with security CVE-2016-0728  fix ?  thanks
[16:52] <kuru> @nicomachus - it may be related to jenkins server that us shutting down
[16:53] <nicomachus> kuru: check for suspicious processes in htop, and perhaps check for rootkits with chkrootkit. That does sound somewhat suspicious.
[16:54] <nicomachus> bulletxt: 12.04 should be on kernel 3.2, which is unaffected. You can check your kernel number with uname -a. that security hole only affects kernels 3.8 and higher.
[16:55] <bulletxt> nicomachus:  ? ubuntu 12.04 is on 3.13
[16:55] <nicomachus> bulletxt: ubuntu 14.04 is on 3.13, but 12.04 may be if you're on HWE, I don't know. what does uname -a show you?
[16:55] <hiwk> I accidentally dd:ed over the beginning of my system disk. Linux still running, can I do some restoring (mbr, partition table etc) now, or should I just reboot and reinstall?
[16:56] <bulletxt> nicomachus:   3.13.0-55-generic #92~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Sun Jun 14 18:32:23 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:56] <kuru> nicomachus: thanks, checking
[16:56] <nicomachus> bulletxt: ok, then run apt-get dist-upgrade to check for new kernels.
[16:57] <bulletxt> nicomachus: latest seems to be 3.13.0-74 , but that was released at december I think     http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/kernel-image-3.13.0-74-generic-di
[16:58] <nicomachus> bulletxt: one moment, checking for upgrades on my 14.04 machine with 3.13.0-74
[16:58] <rww> bulletxt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1534887 seems to say the version in Precise isn't vulnerable to it
[16:59] <bulletxt> rww:  how can that be? kernel is 3.13 ..
[16:59] <someone235> Hi, I want to reinstall ubuntu because of an accident, I read that I can reinstall without deleting my /home. But I run the live-usb I see this message: "This computer currently has no detected operating systems. What would you like to do?" Someone know how to deal with this?
[17:00] <bonzibuddy> someone235 that generally only works if /home was specified as a separate partition to my knowledge
[17:00] <bonzibuddy> someone235 what was the accident? hard drive problem
[17:00] <bonzibuddy> ?
[17:00] <rww> bulletxt: not sure, looking into it more
[17:01] <nicomachus> bulletxt: I did just pull the upgrade to 3.13.0-76 on my 14.04 machine. so they've patched the 3.13 kernel where needed.
[17:01] <someone235> bonzibuddy, I've chown -R /usr to current user
[17:01] <bulletxt> nicomachus: ok but not on 12.04
[17:02] <nicomachus> bulletxt: I can't speak to that, don't have any 12.04 machines at my disposal.
[17:02] <bonzibuddy> someone235: did you put /home on its own partition during install?
[17:02] <bulletxt> rww:  should I post on that launchpad link you provided and ask there?
[17:03] <rww> bulletxt: the default kernel for 12.04 is 3.2. are you using one of the linux-lts-* packages?
[17:03] <Ghosty11>  Just installed ubuntu on my asus laptop. worked fine.  updated everything then restarted. it wouldn't restart properly and I had to hold the power . Now the wireless won't detect anything.  Restarting network manager just hangs
[17:03] <rww> bulletxt: oh, nicomachus covered this already
[17:03] <bulletxt> rww:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/kernel-image-3.13.0-74-generic-di
[17:03] <someone235> bonzibuddy, I did the default installation. I don't think it does that
[17:03] <arcsky> rom1504:how do i do that ? " < rom1504> arcsky: did you create the tun0 interface ?"
[17:04] <rww> bulletxt: that's not the actual kernel package. anyway, if you're on 3.13 you're on a hardware enablement kernel, and those should be getting security updates coming down the pipe
[17:04] <nicomachus> bulletxt: I'm assuming you did update && dist-upgrade?
[17:05] <bulletxt> nicomachus: yes latest kernel is this   http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/kernel-image-3.13.0-74-generic-di ,
[17:05] <rww> bulletxt: the packaging work on this was started about 3 hours ago and is ongoing, so you might need to wait a little bit :P
[17:05] <rww> bulletxt: that bug report I linked should be updated as it progresses
[17:05] <bulletxt> ok great, I'll wait tomorrow then and check again
[17:06] <someone235> bonzibuddy, So I guess my only choice is to reinstall without keeping /home, right?
[17:06] <hiwk> nevermind, will just reinstall
[17:08] <nicomachus> rww: FWIW I was extremely impressed with how fast an update was pushed.
[17:08] <rww> nicomachus: yep, kernel security stuff is fast. just not instant :D
[17:09] <BiilD73> finally, a working install of Ubuntu 14, used manual partioning guide, erase disk default kept failing on efi boot  idk why
[17:09] <rww> which doesn't surprise me considering how long an Ubuntu kernel takes to compile, from experience
[17:09] <rww> (downside of kitchen sink .config)
[17:10] <nixguy> Has anybody used xxBuntu 14.04 LTS for PPC?
[17:11] <nicomachus> rww: any thoughts on the initrd issue on lines 49-54 here? I did install a new RAM stick recently. Do I need to set the new stick up on a date with initrd or something? https://paste.ubuntu.com/14575996/
[17:11] <Boing> i am in $ /home  and ls shows me as a folder, but wont show the folder contents or find the folder
[17:14] <TheMontyChrist> how can I programmatically launch "settings" from a terminal?
[17:14] <TheMontyChrist> my launch bar is missing
[17:14] <TheMontyChrist> I'm going to look @ "launcher placement"
[17:14] <nicomachus> TheMontyChrist: what ubuntu version?
[17:14] <TheMontyChrist> 15
[17:14] <nicomachus> unity-control-center
[17:15] <TheMontyChrist> thanks
[17:15] <nixguy> Boing: type pwd  for me... it's desired behaviour to show your account name, just cd myname and all your subdirs and file will be within.
[17:17] <bonzibuddy> someone235: if you only chown'd /usr you can still boot into it and use it no?
[17:17] <bonzibuddy> someone235: or am i missing something?
[17:17] <rww> nicomachus: no idea, I don't do initrd on my test stuff
[17:17] <someone235> bonzibuddy, yes, I am. But I can't use sudo
[17:18] <house_> I am a new user to ubuntu . Is this where i can find help?
[17:18] <nicomachus> house_: yes.
[17:18] <bonzibuddy> someone235: worst case you could boot a recovery image, mount the drive, and copy /home to an external drive
[17:18] <nixguy> someone235: what, are you not in the sudoers file?
[17:18] <nixguy> su if you have to, but be careful.
[17:18] <nicomachus> no
[17:19] <f00dWorksta> should I upgrade my 14.04 to 15.10? it's my work pc
[17:19] <nicomachus> nixguy: su is not recommended. sudo -i if necessary, but not su.
[17:19] <kuru> nicomachus: no rutkits found. Thats or jira server or jenkins. Going to figure out . Thanks for help
[17:19] <nicomachus> f00dWorksta: why would you need to? just wait for the next LTS release in April.
[17:19] <nixguy> rww: It sounds like you code.  What current mobo and processor are you using?
[17:19] <someone235> nixguy, I am. But I have an error "/usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set"
[17:19] <f00dWorksta> nicomachus: there are some packages I wanna use that isn't in 14.04 :<
[17:20] <nicomachus> f00dWorksta: like what
[17:20] <nicomachus> ?
[17:20] <Boing> ahahaha same Home, and MyName are not accessible. dir, or ls cannot access directory
[17:20] <f00dWorksta> well it's a small thing really, I just wanna see if there are any big issues if I upgrade
[17:20] <nixguy> f00dWorksta: There's really no need to upgrade if everything works fine for you.  Keep in mine that 14.04 has Long Term Support until 4/2019, while 15.10 doesn't.  16.04 will be released in April 21, 2016.  Pointless, really.
[17:20] <nicomachus> !pm | house_
[17:21] <Boing> me, is waiting till april
[17:21] <f00dWorksta> nixguy: :< dammit I wanted an excuse for something shiny :P
[17:22] <f00dWorksta> shiny as in new
[17:22] <nicomachus> f00dWorksta: then wait until April and you'll have something shiny, new, and stable.
[17:22] <Boing> might juss slide 16.04 next to 14.04 three-way boot
[17:22] <nixguy> Boing: what exact error are you getting.  type cd ~ then ls -alF
[17:23] <nixguy> ,
[17:23] <Boing> sudo ls /myname results in ls:cannot access /myname: No such file or Directory
[17:23] <nixguy> f,
[17:23] <f00dWorksta> nicomachus: oh yea 16.04 is lts
[17:24] <nixguy> doodWorksta: Well upgrade if you like, it's your call :D
[17:24] <nixguy> OMG
[17:25] <nixguy> id1ot alert
[17:25] <nixguy> {myname} is the name of your dir, and NO need to sudo it!!!
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !language | nixguy
[17:25] <Boing> eh, yes nix
[17:25] <JediMaster> what's the channel for xenial?
[17:26] <teward> !ubuntu+1 | JediMaster
[17:26] <JediMaster> thanks
[17:27] <nixguy> !language | lotuspsychje
[17:27] <nixguy> How cute.  Anyone can invoke, just as I expected from the bot.
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !botabuse | nixguy
[17:28] <Jamie_1> any ideas on why its taking forever to format to ext3 format on an idiot stick?
[17:28] <nixguy> Jamie_1: idiot stick? as in usb stick?
[17:28] <BiilD73> gah I wish I had some sort of faster connection in bfe
[17:28] <Jamie_1> yes
[17:29] <Boing> there's too many published core utils for 14.04
[17:30] <Boing> On that page
[17:30] <Jamie_1> nixguy: it keeps taking 15+ minutes to format to ext3
[17:31] <nixguy> Jamie_1: again, are you trying to format a USB stick or otherwise (cool it, lotuspsycheje, USB is capitalized, so it's not yelling, I'm preempting you)
[17:32] <Boing> \the last one on the list is for debian Jessie
[17:32] <nixguy> if a USB stick, how plugged in:  A) Directly to computer's USB port  B) to hub ??
[17:32] <Jamie_1> nixguy: your good i know, its a 64gb USB
[17:32] <Jamie_1> and its direct
[17:32] <nixguy> what make and model usb stick is this.  ext3 is a fast file system
[17:33] <Jamie_1> 64gb sandisk cruizer
[17:33] <nixguy> meaning, it shouldn't ever take that long, but if this is an old usb 1.1 stick, it could take longer, I wouldn't think more than 3 mins max
[17:33] <Jamie_1> nixguy: i know its a fast file system... which is why im confused its taking 15+
[17:33] <nixguy> it's nvram we're talking about here.
[17:34] <Laice> Hi all, attempting to upgrade a 14.04.3 to 15.10 (don't ask) with sudo do-release-upgrade -m server, upgrades to 15.04 (which is fine!), but I'm getting hit by "It was not possible to authenticate some packages. This may be a transient network problem. You may want to try again later. See below for a list of unauthenticated packages.  libstdc++6"  Now this would make sense if either distribution was out of support, but 15.04 should b
[17:34] <Jamie_1> nixguy: im formating on a i7
[17:34] <Jamie_1> i dont care wtf im formatting it should never take that long
[17:34] <Jamie_1> and i am not fully wiping
[17:35] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: I've hit the same error, except mine was on the way to 15.04, so that's odd.  You have some options, you can accept unauthenticated packages, but it's less of a mess to just install straight to 15.10 if that's what you want, imo.
[17:35] <nixguy> Jamie_1: Yeah tell me about it.  can you CTRL-C and try again?  do you have a spare usb stick to format?
[17:35] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: I'm actually finishing up a netboot to 15.10 because of that exact problem :^)
[17:35] <Jamie_1> nixguy: yes one sec, it should be done it seconds if i start it, its 1gb
[17:36] <nixguy> Jamie_1: I understand you.  It's just clear the allocation table.
[17:36] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: Thanks :),  would love to however I'm unable to install a later image (it's a virtual server and no access to boot a manual image or a KVM etc), any ideas?
[17:36] <Jamie_1> nixguy: it does the clearing in under 1 min but setting it to ext3 is what takes all the time
[17:36] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: Funny thing is, I managed it a few days ago (may have then bricked the build at a later date....) and all was fine
[17:36] <house_> I have set up dual boot win 8.1 with ubuntu 15.10 and every time i want to switch between the two i have to enter bios and switch from one to the other on boot manager. is there a way i can just choose between the two on start up?
[17:37] <nixguy> Jamie_1: Have you tried ext4 or ext2 as a test?
[17:37] <Jamie_1> nixguy: something is really wack... its not detecting my other usb
[17:38] <Jamie_1> i also need to mention my other usb is a boot partition that i used to need
[17:38] <nixguy> Jamie: Hate to sound so trite, but maybe try a reboot.
[17:38] <ballmer> ubuntu mate 15.10 gave me some odd errors with default screen resolution, it let me reset them to what i wanted but wouldn't allow the default setting to be anything but my highest resolution on login.  i installed gnome 3 and somehow it was fixed.  no idea how.
[17:38] <Jamie_1> nixguy: going to, brb
[17:38] <Jamie_1> nixguy: not trite at all, correct
[17:39] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: possibly not supported way of going around the 'unauthenticated' was the first answer to this question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/425355/error-authenticating-some-packages-while-upgrade ;  I got around it by turning off my swap, formatting my old swap as ext4, mounting it somewhere, then loading the mini.iso into that partition.  From there I did a grub2 iso boot to get into the netboot image.
[17:39] <SchrodingersScat> When I'm done installing I just need to set my swap back up, removing the ext4 partition.
[17:39] <nixguy> Jamie_1: Boot partition on USB stick??? why? this isn't puppy linux, do you not have an SSD?
[17:39] <Boing> want a 3d table model? m
[17:39] <Boing> oh so sowwy
[17:41] <arun--> has the zero day vulnerability patched in ubuntu ?
[17:41] <Laice> SchrodingersScat:  Yeah found that one, not a massive fan of unsigned packages on a production environment :(
[17:42] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: cue people saying you shouldn't be using 15.10 anyway.  And yeah, I haven't a clue why it's unauthenticated, could be benign but idk.
[17:42] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: Forgive my naivety, would libstdc++6 be safe to nuke or too much dependance?
[17:43] <Jamie_1> nixguy: still nothing on the other usb
[17:43] <Boing> TY all for help me !!
[17:43] <ballmer> 15.10 is advertised as the newest ubuntu, there isn't even an LTS version of ubuntu mate on their website
[17:44] <ballmer> i've noticed 15.10 is very much beta software
[17:44] <Jamie_1> nixguy: dont worry about it... turns out the computer i was given the i was trying to put ubuntu on i cant.... the bios is locked and it seems even if i put a new hdd in the bios will still keep me from installing an os
[17:44] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: I just know "Priority: important", not sure how you could get around it though, do-release-upgrade seems to really want to resolve that problem before continuing.
[17:44] <ballmer> flash the bios
[17:44] <Jamie_1> ballmer: how would i do that?
[17:45] <ballmer> it depends on the model
[17:45] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: Hold my mango, I'M GOING IN.
[17:45] <ballmer> its not without risk though
[17:45] <arun--> hello !! has the zero day vulnerability patched in ubuntu ?
[17:45] <arun--> is the patch available for ubuntu 15.10 ?
[17:45] <ballmer> sometimes bios upgrades go bad
[17:45] <Jamie_1> ballmer: right now as it sits its as usefull as broke
[17:45] <Jamie_1> its a dell optiplex3010
[17:45] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: good luck!
[17:46] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: you have backups, right?
[17:46] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: It's a fresh image.  What could possibly go wrong? (rebuild takes about 10 minutes on this platform :) )
[17:46] <ballmer> jamie: i think this is the file.  you might just ask a pc tech shop to do this for you unless you're ok with the risk of bios updates http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=0HCD9
[17:47] <ballmer> if the shop fries it, they can fix it at their expense
[17:47] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: Well it wanted to remove apt so scrap that idea. Oh and grub.
[17:48] <Jamie_1> ballmer: I flash firmware and hardware layers on phones all the time, i know the risk
[17:48] <Laice> SchrodingersScat: Could i manually update the package to the Vivid version do you think prior to do-release-upgrade?
[17:49] <SchrodingersScat> Laice: doesn't sound supported, normally it's a bad idea to mix and match repos, afaik.
[17:49] <Laice> would just be this one package that it's complaining about hopefully, will let you know how it goes.
[17:51] <Jamie_1> ballmer: how exactly do i install the bios? I downloaded the link but its a .exe and i cant get into the desktop, it was a throw out from a closing business so there is a dam password
[17:53] <ballmer> jamie: the guy in this video might have an answer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBPVdyEasQ8
[17:53] <Jamie_1> thanks ballmer
[17:55] <hdadaad> guys, I think my hdd is about to crash http://pastebin.com/dDa0AiyC
[17:55] <hdadaad> how do I save it?
[18:00] <Casper26> Anyone here that can help with multiple monitors in 14.04 LTS?
[18:02] <Bashing-om> hdadaad: I see no "hope" to save that drive .
[18:03] <nacc> Casper26: it's better for you to just ask your question
[18:03] <ballmer> hdadaad, if it still works well enough you can use clonezilla, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8qig2-vxqk  otherwise there are pc shops that can recover data off of hd's sometimes
[18:03] <Alberto_35> Hello everyone
[18:03] <BiilD73> just getting back into linux after a few years hiatus, using ubuntu on my desktop attached my tv, all is working and media(stored on ext hdds) play fine. what i want to do is stream to raspberry pi in other rooms running osmc was doing this off a windows pc but it was crashing to often.  NFS? uPnP?
[18:03] <Alberto_35> Do any of you have docky running?
[18:05] <Casper26> Well i am able to configure 4 monitor setup using nvidia settings with drivers 340.96 after reboot all 4 monitors are active but when i try to login screen goes black a couple seconds and then just goes back to the login screen?
[18:05] <hdadaad> ballmer, thanks man
[18:07] <nixguy> Jamie_1
[18:07] <nixguy> oops
[18:08] <Jamie_1> nixguy: lol
[18:09] <nixguy> Jamie_1: Another thing to consider: how old is this computer? -- Was is custom built or is it a name brand?  A lot of older motherboards have a jumper option to override/reset BIOS.
[18:12] <nixguy> If name brand, google it, see if it's an option.  If custom built (Gigabyte; MSI; ASUS; EVGA) take a peak inside and see if you can't get the model #, if not, each motherboard must carry an FCC ID by law.  With this, you can Google the ID and find the exact specs.
[18:14] <Jamie_1> nixguy: im currently looking for the jumper
[18:17] <nixguy> Jaime_1: Hmm, unless you have a manual, good luck :D  I'd look for identifying info and Google it first.  Jumpers can be plentiful, but I'll trust you know what you're doing, man.  Best of luck there, and hopefully there *is* a jumper ;)
[18:17] <nixguy> correction: not as plentiful as AT motherboards, of course, but you get the gist.
[18:18] <nixguy> Thank GOD for ATX and subsequent E-ATX.
[18:20] <__raven> hi
[18:20] <arunpyasi> guys, how to setup a Smart DNS server?
[18:21] <__raven> problems at boot with 15.10: after grub i get blanc screen and keyboard is disabled. how to find the problem?
[18:22] <arunpyasi> __raven: I had also got that in one of my friend's laptop
[18:22] <arunpyasi> but its fine in my Desktop :P
[18:24] <nixguy> __raven: To rule out problems with your hardware, do you have an Ubuntu LIVE CD or USB stick to boot from?
[18:25] <__raven> nixguy: gardware is fine. the only option to boot is an old kernel with upstart and recovery mode
[18:25] <nixguy> Have you tried booting from recovery mode, then/
[18:27] <BiilD73> with NFS would /media/bill/   192.168.1.0/24(rw,async,insecure,no_subtree_check,nohide)   serve all connected media device individually?
[18:28] <BiilD73> or should I list each indevidual device media/bil/name
[18:30] <__raven> any idea?
[18:32] <renken> hi
[18:32] <renken> anyone there?
[18:32] <renken> can someone help me?
[18:33] <EriC^^> renken: with what?
[18:33] <renken> i have problems installing wine
[18:33] <BiilD73> no ssh by default? geez
[18:33] <renken> i get an error
[18:37] <nicomachus> renken: what is the error?
[18:38] <nicomachus> BiilD73: you can install ssh with "sudo apt-get install openssh"
[18:38] <BiilD73> yeah I got it installed thanks, jsut odd
[18:40] <BiilD73_> thx nicomachus i found it lol
[18:41] <cuc_> Hello. I was prompted to install the last security updates in UbuntuMATE, but it says I have no enough free space... But I have like 300gb free space. Why can't I install my updates?
[18:42] <theone88> hello someone knows if ubuntu 14.04  suports dual graphics ?if yes how can i enable it
[18:43] <genii> theone88: Perhaps clarify if dual graphics means two displays, or hybrid graphics cards
[18:43] <theone88> hybrid graphics display
[18:44] <theone88> graphic card
[18:44] <theone88> sorry
[18:45] <f00dWorksta> theone88: nvidia?
[18:45] <theone88> ati
[18:45] <theone88> apu and gpu
[18:46] <nicomachus> cuc_: did you try "apt-get autoremove"?
[18:48] <cuc_> nicomachus: i tried it now, it's working! thank you..
[18:48] <cuc_> it says it will free another 234mb of space
[18:49] <nicomachus> cuc_: what happened was your /boot was full of old kernels. autoremove is setup to remove all but the 2 most recent, so running it on occasion will free up space.
[18:49] <cuc_> nicomachus: i didn't know that, thank you again
[18:49] <nicomachus> no problem. :)
[18:56] <BiilD73_> how can i list nfs shares that area available
[18:56] <BiilD73_> grr i see it now  nfs didnt start   portmapper not running
[19:12] <JustMozzy> hey everyone. I am using Ubuntu 15.10 with kernel 4.3 patched by noreeps (github.com/noreeps). Whenever I have high network throughput, my network connections and bluetooth connections drop. they still show that they are connected but nothing is happening. pinging the router also results in a Unreachable Host. Any ideas how I could debug this?
[19:13] <TheAmorphous> If I run a mysqldump as root from /etc/crontab, obviously it creates the file with root as owner.  Is there a proper way to create that file with 777 permissions?
[19:13] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: why would you want 777 permissions?
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> JustMozzy  did it work with 4.2 ?
[19:14] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: I think you need something like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8475694/how-to-specify-in-crontab-by-what-user-to-run-script
[19:15] <JustMozzy> MonkeyDust: not sure. On my other machine 14.04 kernel 3.? I have a similar problem.
[19:15] <nicomachus> 15.10 shouldn't be on 4.3 unless you manually installed it
[19:15] <JustMozzy> nicomachus: yes, I did and patched for surface pro 3 support
[19:16] <TheAmorphous> JustMozzy: The file needs to be readable and deletable by other users.  Is there a permission other than 777 I should use?
[19:16] <JustMozzy> nicomachus: but the patches do not touch networking, afaik
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> JustMozzy  sounds complicated then... start from the beginning, when did the issues start; what did you do prior to it and since etc
[19:16] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: Best way is to have those users in a group and let the group have the permissions
[19:16] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: 777 would mean that anyone could modify the file
[19:17] <TheAmorphous> I'll have to look into that, since these are Windows users on another machine, accessing a samba share
[19:17] <TheAmorphous> I'll look at your link, thanks
[19:17] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: I am not sure, but I think you can assign groups to people connecting through samba. But this could be also utter nonesense
[19:18] <TheAmorphous> I'll look into it.  Thanks!
[19:18] <BiilD73_> ok need either a good tutorial or a hand holding on getting the NFS shares freely available to my lan
[19:19] <BiilD73_> I'm pretty sure the problem lies in rpcbind/portmapping
[19:19] <JustMozzy> MonkeyDust: as far as I know, the problem has been there from the beginning. I never tried to connect on my machine other than windows. my work box is also linux and has similar problems but it is a 3.? kernel with ubuntu 14.04
[19:20] <JustMozzy> MonkeyDust: Something must be crashing but I am clueless to where to look for logs
[19:22] <TheAmorphous> Not seeing any documentation for allowing guests full access to a particular user's files ><
[19:23] <JustMozzy> aha, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/147464
[19:24] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: what about this? https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch09.html
[19:25] <TheAmorphous> Not seeing anything about assigning a group to guest accounts automatically.  I think I have an idea how I can make this work though.
[19:26] <mustmodify> Hey how do I keep watching a certain process within top?
[19:26] <mustmodify> Or even better, add a new line every second with just the line... so I can see it over time.
[19:27] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: maybe this helps? http://askubuntu.com/questions/251536/samba-guest-account-not-in-group
[19:27] <TheAmorphous> mustmodify: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1001049 That work for you?
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> mustmodify  with 'watch' ... e.g.    watch -n 1 [command]
[19:28] <TheAmorphous> JustMozzy: I think that will work, thanks again
[19:31] <JustMozzy> TheAmorphous: any time :)
[19:33] <EzeQL_> hi
[19:33] <EzeQL_> what does this line do env |cat - /etc/cron.d/cron > /tmp/out
[19:34] <Ercfly> Hi
[19:35] <Ercfly> soy nuevo en el mundo de linux
[19:35] <akik> mustmodify: you can use top. press o then write COMMAND=your_command
[19:35] <Surendil> !es Ercfly
[19:35] <Ercfly> alguien que me pueda orientar para el buen manejo
[19:35] <Surendil> Ercfly, try #ubuntu-es
[19:36] <Ercfly> o saben de tutoriales para el manejo de linux
[19:47] <BiilD73_> well i can see my nfs server from OSMC RaspberryPi now but it doesnt show subfolders  permissions maybe?
[19:49] <cyborg101> hey
[19:53] <yumbox> whats the difference between ubuntu desktop and server?
[19:55] <cpmx> server doesnt a have a gui
[19:55] <Bashing-om> yumbox: A desktop and installed default applications. The kernel is the same .
[19:56] <yumbox> besides preinstalled programs, is anything else different?
[19:56] <k1l_> no
[19:56] <yumbox> so the systemd services are identical?
[20:04] <quakephil> Can someone please help me install the pprofp utility to work with php adp files
[20:05] <lerner> how do I cd to an luks directory? I cannot with cd /dir. ls -l shows the mountpoint (the name of the hdd,jhgirifrhfyegfrurhrh)
[20:06] <yumbox> What are the differences between debian and ubuntu?
[20:06] <icansmellyou_> the desktop
[20:07] <yumbox> ubuntu has unity, but debian doesn't.
[20:07] <icansmellyou_> debian i believe used gnome and ubuntu uses unity
[20:07] <yumbox> besides that, are there more important differences?
[20:07] <nicomachus> yes
[20:07] <nicomachus> read here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1336/how-is-ubuntu-different-from-debian
[20:07] <icansmellyou_> thanks nicomachus
[20:08] <quakephil> I'm on 14.04.2 LTS but when I do apt-get install pprofp I get Unable to locate package pprofp, and I don't know how to search for the package
[20:09] <nicomachus> !info pprofp
[20:09] <nicomachus> !info pprofp trusty
[20:09] <Surendil> quakephil, for searching apt-cache search
[20:09] <yumbox> Okay, so the biggest difference is release cycle difference?
[20:09] <lerner> so
[20:09] <nicomachus> yumbox: yes, mostly.
[20:09] <Surendil> but that package is not in the repository
[20:10] <quakephil> I guess it got deleted from ubuntu? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/pprofp.1.html <-- it used to be here but no longer :<
[20:10] <lerner> cd command: when do I have to write a "/" at the beginnign of the path and when not?
[20:10] <yumbox> nicomachus: okay, thanks.
[20:10] <nicomachus> quakephil: looks like it is provided by php4-apd
[20:10] <quakephil> I have php5-adp installed
[20:11] <nicomachus> lerner: when you are starting your path at the root directory. if you are starting your path from your current location (default is ~, aka /home/username/) then you don't need it.
[20:12] <quakephil> I was just following http://php.net/manual/en/apd.examples.usage.php I guess I have to find the sources for pprofp and compile it myself
[20:12] <Bashing-om> lerner: The cd command . Use '/' when outside your home ( Present Working Directory" as '/' represents the "root" of the path .
[20:12] <yumbox> Does ubuntu keep closer to upstream than debian?
[20:15] <ballmer> ubuntu gets newer packages than debian stable, drawn from debian unstable and testing, but debian security updates are as quick as any distro
[20:16] <quakephil> nm... I found pprofp by doing a find... apparently its just a php script that gets shipped with pecl-adp
[20:16] <quakephil> pebcak
[20:18] <lerner> i want to rename a luks encrypted partition. I found http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/230308/how-can-i-set-a-label-on-a-dm-cryptluks-container , but I dont know how to "write udev rules like this"
[20:18] <TJ-> lerner: rename it? rename the device-mapper node do you mean?
[20:19] <yumbox> ballmer: okay, thanks.
[20:19] <BiilD73_> ok trying to share via nfs ot OSMC RaspPi /media/bill which contains 3 ext hdds. locally everything works, movies, music and pics play etc. I can see the NFS shares from the Pi but cannot drill down for their content  any ideas?
[20:19] <lino> list
[20:19] <lerner> TJ-, the mountpoint, so every time I plug it in I dont see "gjrienidsnoemorno" (the physical name of the hdd), but "unit2"
[20:20] <TJ-> lerner: Ahhh, you mean fake names under /dev/disk/by-label/
[20:20] <lerner> TJ-, I dont know, because im a beginner
[20:21] <yumbox> lerner: sudo blkid
[20:21] <yumbox> lerner: do you want to change the name that comes after LABEL ?
[20:22] <lerner> yumbox, next time I "ls -l" instead of seeing "root   root    4096 Jan 18 20:49 c844f5a2-ff5f-4b09-a946-cfurueeueue" id like to see "root   root    4096 Jan 18 20:49 unit2"
[20:23] <lerner> TJ-, is what I just wrote fake names?
[20:23] <TJ-> lerner: yes, since the LUKS metadata doesn't include a 'name' field (only a UUID) you have to fake it by having a udevd rule that matches on the known UUID, and creates a 'fake' name the kernel stores. It's not ideal making it the ID_FS_LABEL since the "FS" infers its a valid file-system
[20:25] <lerner> TJ-, "It's not ideal making it the ID_FS_LABEL since the "FS" infers its a valid file-system" < I dont understand that what is in this case the ID_FS_LABEL?
[20:25] <TJ-> lerner: imagine it in terms of containers within containers: partition contains LUKS, which contains file-system
[20:26] <TJ-> lerner: so ideally you want either 'partition' or 'LUKS/dm-crypt' to have the attribute, since the (unlocked) file-system will have its own valid value
[20:26] <TJ-> lerner: udev has ID_PART_ENTRY_NAME for such things, which - if Gnome behaves correctly - should be sufficient
[20:27] <TJ-> lerner: but, the article you link to will do the job. Just be aware there may be (rare) regressions for some tools that it confuses.
[20:27] <greenhat> Will an apt-get update && update-get upgrade fix CVE-2016-0728 on 14.04?
[20:29] <TJ-> greenhat: already published
[20:29] <bob2021> hey
[20:30] <TJ-> greenhat: so, "apt-get dist-upgrade" will pull it in
[20:30] <bob2021> is k1rk or tj- around?
[20:30] <Guest65348> hi
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> bob2021  ask your question in the channel
[20:32] <bob2021> TJ- This is bob2017.  I think I finally got everything working.  The key was installing the nvidia drivers not using aptitude, so the nvidia opengl drivers didn't get installed
[20:32] <bob2021> tj- that, and an xorg.conf that identifies monitors and devices, but no screens
[20:34] <bob2021> so on the theory that i may actually have a working ubuntu installation... anyone have advice on basic apps to install?
[20:34] <lerner> TJ-, so it would be better to leave things like they are?
[20:35] <TJ-> bob2021: that sounds correct. aptitude probably pulls in packages for recommends and even suggests.
[20:36] <TJ-> lerner: If you find it better to give those partitions labels then go ahead, I'm just making you aware there may be some - rare - unexpected side-effects with some tools. As long as you keep that in mind if you get weird behaviour, you should be fine
[20:37] <bramgn> bob2021: what will the computer be used for?
[20:37] <bob2021> TJ- its not the recommends or suggests, its just that the only version of its binaries that nvidia makes available that way forces opengl and mucks around with drivers
[20:37] <bob2021> bramgn:  deep learning, in particular using the fbcunn extensions.  but its also my main machine, so i want to be able to do stuff while the nets are training
[20:37] <lerner> TJ-, will labelling partitions affect the information stored in the unit? do I need to label before copying files?
[20:37] <bramgn> bob2021: what did you use before?
[20:38] <TJ-> bob2021: is it the nvidia-<VERSION> depends on "xorg-video-abi-*" then?
[20:39] <bob2021> is ubuntu always going to ask me to authenticate so it can change my own user data every 3 seconds?
[20:39] <TJ-> lerner: no, it won't affect anything on-disk. If you follow that article you're creating a boot-time userspace device manager (udev) rule that will label the partition *in-memory* but that won't be retained on-disk - each boot it will be re-created
[20:39] <bob2021> bramgn: Mac OS, and thats still my principal work environment.  ubuntu is for fbcunn
[20:39] <freeone3000> I'm trying to import a key to use a third-party package repository. My error is https://gist.github.com/freeone3000/66535f8576f71a259bfb . What do I need to update in order to be able to add the keyserver?
[20:39] <bob2021> TJ-  I think its actually the nvidia_352, but i'm not positive.  nvidia insists on a lot of packages at the same time.
[20:40] <TJ-> bob2021: makes sense for the common use-case of the driver
[20:40] <bob2021> TJ- And its a pain in the ass.  I may have to send them a strongly-worded email.
[20:40] <bob2021> TJ- Sure, but they also want developers...  I mean, at this point, deep learning has the be the majority of Nvidia's income
[20:45] <freeone3000> I ended up installing the package manually.
[20:46] <docmur> I have a situation where i need to give a box with Ubuntu Server installed to a client.  I'll hold the an admin account and they get a user account.  The box is terminal only and my company stores an appication they will use on it.  The problem is that I want to prevent any possiblity of them mounting the drive live a LIVE session and changing the admin password. Is there a way to do this, possibly with ful
[20:46] <docmur> l disk encryption and assure they can't get in?
[20:46] <tgm4883> docmur: full disk encryption would do it, but then you'd need access in order to boot the box
[20:47] <docmur> right and that's what I was thinking, so is there a way to store a key for the encryption that they can't access, kind of like a once time use USB device that is read only?
[20:48] <tgm4883> docmur: I don't believe so, but IDK
[20:48] <freeone3000> docmur: If they can't access the key, how do they use it to boot the box?
[20:48] <docmur> I've considered making my own hardware key, which could do this, paired with a kernel module, if I have to, but was hoping there's another wya
[20:49] <docmur> well the key could be read by the kernel but no mounted seperatly to extract the key file
[20:49] <lerner> TJ-, hope this is the last question. I do have to cd to the udev directory, find an udev file and edit it, is that so?
[20:49] <tgm4883> freeone3000: well I think his question was, is there a way to make add a one time use decryption key
[20:49] <freeone3000> tgm4883: TPM should do it, if you're on Intel.
[20:50] <bonzibuddy> docmur: sounds tricky.  maybe you could make it call home with a rootkit checker output/etc that alerts you if the password has been changed
[20:50] <bonzibuddy> not sure what your use case is exactly, its a tricky problem in general
[20:51] <tgm4883> docmur: out of curiosity, why all the effort to stop them from getting root?
[20:51] <bob2021> no recommendations on what to install?
[20:51] <docmur> Well we store our application on the box and we don't want them ripping it off
[20:52] <Guest70758> hello
[20:52] <tgm4883> docmur: out of curiosity, what application?
[20:53] <docmur> Something we developed in house lol
[20:53] <docmur> that's all I really can say about it
[20:53]  * tgm4883 has lost interest
[20:54] <bonzibuddy> docmur could you encrypt just the application folder, make the box call home for a decryption key or similar
[20:54] <Fhhbv> hi community, can someone with a big hart help me please?? Idesinstall network mmanager ffrom Ubuntu and I got no internet. I download with my phone wicd .Debian but I do not know how to use the terminal.
[20:54] <bonzibuddy> docmur obviously not foolproof, but an option
[20:55] <docmur> I was thinking of that, but doesn't the LUKkey have to come in before any major booting takes hold?  I don't know of a way to get a key via network transaction
[20:55] <docmur> but if I could, that would be awesome!
[20:55] <freeone3000> Fhhbv: Okay. So your problem is you uninstalled the network manager from Ubuntu, and you lost internet as a result. have you tried reinstalling the network manager?
[20:55] <bonzibuddy> docmur: don't encrypt the whole box, just encrypt like /opt/docmurco/app or w/e your application is
[20:55] <freeone3000> docmur: If it's an encrypted partition instead of a volume, you have to specify the key at mount time, not boot time.
[20:55] <bonzibuddy> docmur: is my point
[20:56] <bonzibuddy> yeah, what freeone3000 said :)
[20:56] <docmur> hmmmm maybe :)
[20:56] <docmur> Didn't think of that
[20:56] <bonzibuddy> docmur: obvi they can sniff the traffic and get the key to unlock it if they are determined
[20:56] <freeone3000> bonzibuddy: You'd fetch it over SSL.
[20:56] <bonzibuddy> but a dedicated enough hacker is probably going to be able to get it
[20:56] <docmur> well I can encrypt any tunnels in use, that's not a problem
[20:57] <zaggynl> Hmm, anyone know any speed tweaks for cifs shares?
[20:57] <zaggynl> starts at 100MB/s but slows down to 15MB/s
[20:57] <Fhhbv> ..
[20:57] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv are you trying to connect wifi?
[20:57] <freeone3000> zaggynl: TFTP and NFS have more desirable characteristics. FTP if you want to go through the hassle.
[20:57] <zaggynl> I could try out nfs
[20:57] <zaggynl> the speed is fine on windows
[20:58] <zaggynl> reading from the share is fine, writing to is slow
[20:58] <Fhhbv> thanks, yes, wiffy
[20:58] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv do you have network manager configured to use that access point already
[20:58] <freeone3000> zaggynl: noatime,directio may help, but those should be the defaults.
[20:58] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv or is this a brand new config sort of thing
[20:59] <zaggynl> ill give that a shot, thanks
[20:59] <Fhhbv> No, I made a mistake and desinstalled network manager completly
[21:01] <Fhhbv> But I have downloaded wicd. just I need to installe it
[21:02] <bob2021> why is ubuntu making me authenticate every 10 seconds?
[21:02] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv try 'man nmcli', look at the last example
[21:03] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv: nmcli is the command line interface to network manager (i assume you reinstalled it?)
[21:03] <bonzibuddy> or is that the problem, you cant reinstall it without the network
[21:03] <Fhhbv> It's gone, I completly desinstalled last night.
[21:03] <bonzibuddy> ah
[21:03] <patrix76> hunger games il canto della rivolta parte 2 2015 italian md 720p hdts x264 incoming part1 rar*irc.rootworld.net*#atollo-friends*/msg AtoLLo|HD-Merged|001 xdcc send #72*
[21:04] <cpmx> You mean uninstalled
[21:04] <Fhhbv> the only way I can see is to install wicd.debian
[21:04] <Fhhbv> if someone tell me how =)
[21:04] <rww> !lista | patrix76
[21:04] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv I can't speak for wicd, never used it.  Is ethernet possible?
[21:05] <Fhhbv> I plugged but there is not signal
[21:06] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv do you see lights on the ethernet port
[21:06] <Fhhbv> It's a laptop,
[21:07] <Fhhbv> I did not see any light
[21:07] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv i dont _think_ you need network manager to use ethernet if you configure manually, I could be mistaken
[21:07] <Fhhbv> how can I do it??
[21:08] <Fhhbv> I mean, config manually
[21:08] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:08] <bonzibuddy> 1s ill see if i can find an example of dhcp config
[21:09] <Fhhbv> sorry, I'm new on Linux. should I open the terminal and..
[21:11] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv on a terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:11] <cpmx> or ‘sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces’
[21:11] <Fhhbv> cool, thanks. I will try
[21:16] <Fhhbv> mm.. I'm gnu nano 2.2.6.. what can I do here??
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Fhhbv: Looking over bonzibuddy's shoulder, is this a wired and WIFI connections ?
[21:17] <TheEagerPadawan> I still have to find a good videoplayer, vlc sometimes has audio problems when i'm forwarding or rewinding in the file and when i suspend while i paused a clip i only get the audio and have to reload the file. With smplayer i got sync issues where the audio plays faster then the video
[21:18] <ResQue_> a
[21:18] <Fhhbv> there are three lines
[21:18] <RNeville> Hello Everyone, should I be concerned about the state of my Harddrive, i.e., should I defrag, like in the MS Windows world?
[21:18] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv what do they say
[21:18] <al2o3-cr> TheEagerPadawan: mpv
[21:19] <RNeville> running Ubuntu 14.04
[21:19] <TheEagerPadawan> kernel v 4.2.0-25 is available
[21:19] <TheEagerPadawan> run your dist-upgrades ;)
[21:19] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Nope, linux is a journaled file system . No need to worry so long as you keep the capacity below 90% .
[21:20] <RansomTime> RNeville: Not really if you're on an ext4 file system
[21:20] <yumbox> RNeville: if it's a mechical hard drive, then you can defrag it. but it shouldnt be necessary if you keep the drive not full.
[21:20] <Fhhbv> # interfaces (5) file used by ifup (8) and ifdown (8) auto lo iface lo inet loopbackpback
[21:20] <TheEagerPadawan> al2o3-cr: apt-getting it
[21:20] <RansomTime> Oh yeah, don't defrag an SSD =
[21:20] <Fhhbv> loopback
[21:21] <RNeville> thx yumbox & RansomTime , I am running a SSD drive
[21:21] <RNeville> thx, also, Bashing-om
[21:21] <RansomTime> Defragging an SSD is pointless, and wears down the drive unecessarily - so don't worry about it
[21:21] <yumbox> RNeville: for SSDs it's also recommended to keep a little free space at all times.
[21:22] <RansomTime> In case a sector has to be written somewhere else?
[21:22] <yumbox> RansomTime: for wear leveling.
[21:22] <RansomTime> ah
[21:22] <TheEagerPadawan> al2o3-cr: does mpv has settings that i can play around with?
[21:22] <yumbox> RNeville: in general, you shouldn't worry about defragmentation on SSDs.
[21:23] <al2o3-cr> TheEagerPadawan: sure
[21:23] <RNeville> I was listen to Jupiter Broadcasting last night , "Linux Unplugged"  and maybe they were talking about ZFS needing defragging?
[21:23] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: you can set your settings in ~/.config/mpv/mpv.conf
[21:24] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: for example: http://sprunge.us/QHFi
[21:24] <k1l_> RNeville: ubuntus standard filesystem is ext4 and doesnt need defragging
[21:25] <RNeville> thx, also, k1l_
[21:25] <TheEagerPadawan> is there a way to force a ssd to wipe the files that are listed for deletion since the controller more or less does then when he has time normally
[21:26] <bob2021> is there a way to enable multitouch gesures on an Apple trackpad with ubuntu?
[21:26] <al2o3-cr> TheEagerPadawan: https://mpv.io/manual/master/
[21:27] <pocketprotector> So from my understanding, 12.04 LTS is Pangolin, and 14.04 is Trusty Tahr... can somebody help me decode this confusing security release? http://fpaste.org/312572/38472145/
[21:28] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: yes, you can force that by running "sudo fstrim -v /"
[21:28] <yumbox> replace / with the mountpoint of the SSD
[21:28] <pick_a_chu> hi
[21:28] <Fhhbv> I installed Ubuntu from a dvd . can I re install aand kekeep my programs safe??
[21:28] <xangua> pocketprotector: what vulnerability? Do you not install security updates or something?
[21:29] <pick_a_chu> how do i change the screen sleep settings on ubuntu mate?
[21:29] <pick_a_chu> do ya know?
[21:29] <rww> pocketprotector: linux-lts-trusty is a package in the precise/12.04 repositories that installs the kernel from trusty
[21:29] <xangua> Fhhbv: reinstall why? Safe from who or what? If you reinstall then you will be have to install everything again
[21:29] <nicomachus> xangua: there was a zero-day released today. kernel updates are already being pushed.
[21:29] <pick_a_chu> no one?
[21:29] <pick_a_chu> dont be ball suckers
[21:29] <yumbox> xangua: i think he means safe from deletion?
[21:30] <Pici> pocketprotector: what is that report from?
[21:30] <pick_a_chu> helpz out
[21:30] <rww> pocketprotector: it's part of the LTS Hardware Enablement stack
[21:30] <nicomachus> pocketprotector: there is a vulnerability in the kernel. do "apt-get dist-upgrade" to check for updates.
[21:30] <pick_a_chu> jdjkkjkcjdjck
[21:30] <rww> Pici: it's a standard ubuntu security listserv mail from the look of it
[21:30] <xangua> ! Language | pick_a_chu
[21:30] <TheEagerPadawan> hole most of the deity it's existence i doubt, there is quit a bit of options for mpv anything i should know in particular  Oo
[21:30] <pick_a_chu> ok
[21:30] <pick_a_chu> can yo help now ?
[21:30] <Fhhbv> =( I don't want to re install but I got no internet. how CAn I get it bback??
[21:31] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: mpv works really well with the default settings.
[21:31] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv add the line "auto eth0" on its own line
[21:31] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: you can do "man mpv" to read about all options
[21:31] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv and below that add "iface eth0 inet dhcp" below that
[21:31] <pick_a_chu> can i change the sleep settings on ma ubuntu ?
[21:31] <pick_a_chu> dose anyone know?
[21:31] <bonzibuddy> Fhhbv then perform a sudo service networking restart after plugging in the ethernet cable
[21:31] <pick_a_chu> i did google it first
[21:31] <bonzibuddy> 'sudo service networking restart'
[21:32] <pick_a_chu> arsholes
[21:32] <yumbox> bonzibuddy: didn't ubuntu change to systemd?
[21:32] <pick_a_chu> xmxklcklc
[21:32] <pick_a_chu> pretty use;ess
[21:33] <pick_a_chu> useless
[21:33] <rww> pick_a_chu: No need for all that. Be patient, repeat your question every 15 minutes, Google or whatever in the meantime.
[21:33] <pick_a_chu> i did
[21:33] <pick_a_chu> been done
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Fhhbv: And exampl of a working manual internet connectivity file : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14577880/ . Will have to tell the system you are going manual .
[21:34] <k1l_> !guidelines | pick_a_chu make sure to read them
[21:34] <hugo> hi
[21:34] <pick_a_chu> ohhh ohh
[21:34] <pick_a_chu> we be stuck up
[21:34] <Pici> pocketprotector: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2016/CVE-2016-0728.html may shed some light on it, methinks
[21:34] <yumbox> pick_a_chu: did you change the settings in System->Adminstration
[21:34] <bonzibuddy> yumbox: could be :) havnt updated to latest lts yet
[21:34] <TheEagerPadawan> yumbox: is there a way to change the default subtitle colors in mpv?
[21:35] <pick_a_chu> i have just updated the whole thing
[21:35] <pocketprotector> Pici: thank you!
[21:35] <pick_a_chu> are there build in settings for the screen saver or nah?
[21:35] <nicomachus> pick_a_chu: someone literally just told you where to look.
[21:36] <xangua> 3:28 PM <Fhhbv> I installed Ubuntu from a dvd . can I re install aand kekeep my programs safe?? / put cd in, go to software centre, edit menu, sources; in the very first tab enable "Ubuntu CD", reload repositories and reinstall network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> At what point this month do we stop supporting 15.04?
[21:36] <nicomachus> SonikkuAmerica: Feb. 4
[21:36] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: do "man mpv" and then hit "/" and type "Subtitles"
[21:36] <pick_a_chu> ok
[21:36] <pick_a_chu> ok
[21:36] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: then check if there is a part about colors
[21:36] <SonikkuAmerica> nicomachus: Thank you :D
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> :P
[21:37] <pick_a_chu> ok ok
[21:37] <heston> Is anyone able to using google voice in Canada on their ubuntu box? Mine is complaining that, Hangouts needs the Google Talk plugin..which of course is already installed and is up to date
[21:37] <mcphail> pick_a_chu: stop spamming the channel please
[21:37] <SonikkuAmerica> heston: Extension or standalone app?
[21:38] <heston> SonikkuAmerica, through firefox so, the extension im guessing
[21:38] <pick_a_chu> me+google
[21:38] <Hana> How can i change the logon screen. For securitiy reasons i want that they enter their own usersname.
[21:38] <SonikkuAmerica> heston: It works fine for me... in Chromium... no additional plugin needed.
[21:38] <heston> hmm :/
[21:38] <heston> ill try installing chrome
[21:39] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: all I could find was "--sub-gray" which makes the yellow DVD subtitles look less shit.
[21:39] <nicomachus> heston: works fine for me in the US with Chrome.
[21:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Hana: Can you [ ls /etc/lightdm/ ] for me?
[21:39] <heston> nicomachus, ok thanks
[21:39] <Hana> ok
[21:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Hana: I ask because there probably isn't a file named lightdm.conf , which would usually be edited.
[21:41] <Hana> ls /etc/lightdm
[21:41] <Hana> users.conf
[21:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Hana: can you !pastebin the output of /etc/lightdm/users.conf ?
[21:41] <bonzibuddy> yumbox: ah systemd is 15.04 or later; im still living in LTS which is before systemd transition
[21:42] <Hana> ok
[21:42] <yumbox> bonzibuddy: hah, okay.
[21:42] <yumbox> TheEagerPadawan: take a look here: https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/45178809
[21:43] <Hana> # User accounts configuration
[21:43] <Hana> #
[21:43] <Hana> # NOTE: If you have AccountsService installed on your system, then LightDM will
[21:43] <Hana> # use this instead and these settings will be ignored
[21:43] <Hana> #
[21:43] <Hana> # minimum-uid = Minimum UID required to be shown in greeter
[21:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin | Hana
[21:43] <TheEagerPadawan> yumbox thanks
[21:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Hana: When Drone` unquiets you, run [ cat /etc/lightdm/users.conf | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw ] and give me the link.
[21:46] <Hana>  https://ptpb.pw/gonn
[21:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Hana: OK, that file won't help me. Try [ sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ]. Anything in there?
[21:48] <Hana> ok
[21:51] <gamegenie> sup any Arkansas folk up in here?
[21:51] <SonikkuAmerica> gamegenie: #ubuntu-us-ar should give you the appropriate LoCo team
[21:51] <nicomachus> gamegenie: close, but why does that matter?
[21:51] <Hana> this map dont excist
[21:52] <gamegenie> SonikkuAmerica: its dead
[21:52] <gamegenie> nicomachus: where at whodison?
[21:52] <nicomachus> gamegenie: this channel is support chat only. for off-topic chat, please use #ubuntu-offtopic. I'm there as well.
[21:57] <acx> hola!!
[21:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | acx
[22:02] <sqrt7744> Hey I'm having the weirdest problem on 15.10 / Unity. Cant' lock screen. Screen just goes black for a sec then it's back to normal. Even resume from suspend doesn't ask for a password, just plops me back onto my desktop.
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> sqrt7744: The answer is 88. Also, check what [ dm-tool --switch-to-greeter ] does in your terminal.
[22:04] <nicomachus> lol
[22:06] <ballmer> i've had random video issues with mate and unity, they were fixed by installing gnome 3, which i never liked before, but it isn't that bad now
[22:06] <ballmer> i have no idea what gnome 3 is installing that's fixing it
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> weird.
[22:07] <ballmer> gnome 3 has to be customized a bit to make it usable
[22:08] <SonikkuAmerica> hold on
[22:08] <ballmer> 15.10 is proving to be an interesting experience, although the bugs are worked out now apparently
[22:08] <ballmer> on my system
[22:08] <xangua>  ballmer it was probably because of compiz
[22:09] <ballmer> i figured it had something to do with it
[22:10] <ballmer> the funny thing is it wouldn't let me set a default resolution lower than my highest res, but let me do it manually
[22:10] <ballmer> then just resolved by a gnome 3 install and a reboot
[22:14] <lucianco> Hello to all you good people! :-)
[22:15] <csmule_> howdee
[22:19] <ddybing> Hi folks
[22:19] <Guest59229> hi
[22:20] <ddybing> Has anyone tried out the 16.04 builds?
[22:21] <nicomachus> ddybing: lots. they are all in #ubuntu+1
[22:24] <lerner> if firefox --help lists comands with caps on them (SetDefault) do I have to write caps in the command too?
[22:25] <bekks> Yes.
[22:26] <lerner> otherwise the command doesnt work?
[22:26] <nicomachus> otherwise it might be a different command.
[22:26] <bekks> Thats to be expected.
[22:29] <Guest59229> lerner, syntax in the shell is case sensitive. For reference, in Windows commands issued through their shell is case insensitive.
[22:29] <lerner> ok
[22:38] <ddybing> I saw the mockups of 16.04. They look really awesome
[22:38] <xangua> ddybing: you know what a mockup is right?
[22:39] <k1l_> ddybing: i suspect you saw mockups from an individual that have no relation to the original ubuntu 16.04
[22:41] <ddybing> xangua: Yes, I know - but they sure looked great lol
[22:42] <compdoc> does 14.04 support systemd? should I use it?
[22:42] <k1l_> compdoc: its standard since 15.04. systemd will be backported some time to 14.04 iirc
[22:43] <Guest59229> compdoc, do you have a compelling reason to use systemd? Just curious is all.
[22:43] <compdoc> k1l_, Im compiling a program and I can enable systemd support, but I think I'll wait for 16.04 to enable it
[22:44] <Guest59229> compdoc, n/m answering :)
[22:45] <moza> Hello. I have a weird problem on my ubuntu servers. When I ssh it works ok for one of them, the other timeouts. So I decided to check with ping... both timeout there! Even the one that I can ssh into... Anything I could check?
[22:46] <jnagro> any IRC client recommendations for Ubuntu?
[22:46] <nicomachus> jnagro: hexchat, irssi, weechat
[22:46] <bramgn> moza: firewall?
[22:47] <jnagro> nicomachus thanks
[22:47] <moza> bramgn : Is this something I should be configuring within the server?
[22:47] <moza> You mean, like blocking or opening ports?
[22:47] <nicomachus> !ufw | moza
[22:47] <Guest59229> jnagro, I settled with xchat.
[22:48] <jnagro> Guest59229 why?
[22:48] <moza> Thanks nicomachus
[22:48] <RansomTime> I like quassel myself for IRC - IRC clients are personal preference I feel
[22:48] <Guest59229> jnagro, don't laugh... it was because it was most familiar with mi mIRC days and I can increase the font size(old bad eyes). I dont XDCC anymore so I never cared about that.
[22:49] <jnagro> Guest59229 lol i miss mIRC too
[22:49] <moza> bramgn and nicomachus : ufw tells me it's disabled.
[22:50] <bramgn> jnagro: is mIRC gone?
[22:50] <EriC^^> moza: did you install fail2ban?
[22:50] <EriC^^> or any iptables rules?
[22:51] <jnagro> bramgn no, i think it still exists, for windows. probably runs under WINE
[22:52] <Guest59229> bramgn, no, its windows based is all
[22:52] <nicomachus> Guest59229: xchat is abandoned. move to hexchat, it's a fork of xchat that is actually maintained.
[22:52] <nicomachus> and it's 95% the same
[22:52] <Guest59229> nicomachus, i had no idea. why is it still in repos? I will switch tho.,.thanks.
[22:53] <moza> EriC^^ : fail2ban doesn't ring any bell. I don't remember changing iptables rules.
[22:53] <moza> But the machines are within a university network that I don't control.
[22:54] <bramgn> moza: you can still ssh into 1 server?
[22:54] <nicomachus> Guest59229: not sure why it's still in the repos, but it's abandoned since 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat
[22:55] <EriC^^> moza: try sudo iptables -L
[22:55] <moza> bramgn : yes.
[22:56] <bramgn> moza: do you remember what you changed with iptables?
[22:57] <moza> I only have "ACCEPT" rules in iptables
[22:57] <bramgn> moza: what message do you get when you "ssh server2"? Timeout or connection refused?
[22:57] <moza> bramgn : as far as i know, i changed nothing in iptables
[22:57] <bekks> moza: Which is fine when the default policy for the chain is DENY.
[22:57] <moza> timeout for the ssh server2
[22:57] <Spec> moza: what is your default policy?
[22:57] <moza> Spec : I'm unsure what you mean?
[22:57] <Spec> iptables -L
[22:58] <Spec> Chain <chainname> (policy SOMETHING)
[22:58] <srg> How can I disable the background update checking in Gnome? I often find when I run `sudo aptitude` it can't lock the package db because it's already in use.
[22:58] <bramgn> moza: are both servers in same network? Did you f.ex. try to ssh from server1 tro server2?
[22:58] <moza> I have three chains, all of them with default policy accept
[22:58] <moza> no specific rule added.
[22:59] <bramgn> s/tro/to/
[22:59] <moza> bramgn : they are both on my university network. I'm using a tunnel to connect to both of them, I'll try the ssh from one to the other, that's a good idea :)
[22:59] <moza> bramgn : Yay! that worked
[23:00] <moza> I'm unsure how or why, but it worked ...
[23:00] <bramgn> moza: ok, great
[23:00] <moza> Any idea to what might be the cause?
[23:01] <bramgn> moza: well, for starters, check IP address you're trying to connect to with the actual configured IP on the server
[23:02] <moza> bramgn : I didn't configure a specific IP on that server
[23:02] <moza> because I wasn't given one
[23:03] <bramgn> moza: what instructions did you get?
[23:03] <moza> None
[23:04] <moza> I just got given an access to a console to it via an admin tool
[23:04] <bramgn> moza: but you used an address to connect to both servers, right? Like an IP address, or a hostname
[23:04] <moza> and I can ssh to it with the domain name
[23:04] <Guest2> Is it any linux i can download and install of a smartphone ?
[23:04] <moza> a hostname
[23:04] <moza> not an ip
[23:05] <ddybing> Guest2: Do you mean install it FROM a smartphone, or TO a smartphone?
[23:05] <moza> something that gets resolved later on to an IP (or in the case of the admin tool, it was just a shortened name, not an IP nor the full name.
[23:05] <k1l_> Guest2: #ubuntu-touch for that
[23:05] <Guest2> ddybing: I like to install it on a smartphone.
[23:06] <bramgn> moza: looks like the hostname doesn't resolve or perhaps resolves to wrong IP from that console
[23:06] <ddybing> Okay. I would join the channel #ubuntu-touch, as kil_ suggested
[23:06] <bramgn> moza: if you would do 'host server2' from the console, do you get an asnwer?
[23:07] <Guest2> Channel #ubuntu-touch ?
[23:07] <moza> hmm, which console bramgn ?
[23:07] <Zulu_Too> R1I are you there?
[23:07] <Zulu_Too> Hello there Moza. Nice to see you again.
[23:07] <moza> Hello
[23:08] <Zulu_Too> How are you doing today Moza?
[23:08] <Zulu_Too> Nice to see you.
[23:08] <Zulu_Too> :)
[23:08] <bramgn> moza: the one from the admin tool, if i understood correctly
[23:08] <moza> ok, I'll have to try that when I'm at my office
[23:09] <moza> or i can try that while i'm logged in right now on that machine (via tunnel via ssh on server1 and then ssh on server2...)
[23:11] <Zulu_Too> Moza tunneliing is great with SSH. It is the only way now. Privacy is so important.
[23:11] <Guest2> Is Ubuntu touch for all smartphones and is it easy like to install linux on a computer ? Tought it was ubuntu phone.
[23:12] <moza> ok, thanks bramgn, now I got server2's IP adress, as given by host :)
[23:12] <xangua> Guest2: no and no
[23:12] <Guest2> Hope it will be in the future. So i dont have to sign up for a gmail.
[23:13] <xangua> You can use Android without Google
[23:13] <Zulu_Too> You don't need gmail. Set up your own server and bypass the hooplahh.
[23:13] <Guest2> xanga. yes but i dont get the updates and new apps.
[23:13] <k1l_> Guest2: if someone did make a port of ubuntu-touch for your device already it should be easy to install. but that is the topic for #ubuntu-touch
[23:13] <xangua> You just basically have to install a custom Rom and use only open source alternatives
[23:15] <moza> ok. The IP adress returned by host from the machine itself doesn't seem to answer to ping (timeout) from my home computer.
[23:16] <moza> that ip adress answers perfectly to ping from server1.
[23:19] <bramgn> moza: you're using a VPN to connect to the university network, right?
[23:19] <moza> bramgn : yes
[23:21] <moza> bramgn : ok, my vpn seemed to have stopped working. Apparently one server is accessible without the vpn and the other is not. Let's try again while checking the vpn is up and running
[23:22] <bramgn> moza: could it be that you're accessing server 1 on a public IP and server 2 on a private IP? (192.168.x./10.x.x.x/..)
[23:22] <moza> It doesn't seem that way, but I need to check the masks to be sure
[23:23] <moza> They both start the same (x.x.y.y => the x are the same)
[23:23] <Zulu_Too> Moza make sure the Hostname is not identical. That could be a problem.
[23:24] <bramgn> moza: and you said that without VPN you can still access server1?
[23:24] <moza> bramgn : yes
[23:24] <moza> and from it then access server2....
[23:25] <moza> Zulu_Too : i do need to check how I've configured the hostname
[23:25] <moza> on server2
[23:25] <bramgn> moza: okay, well, i suggest to check with the network folks at your uni at the situation
[23:28] <Zulu_Too> Moza many Webmasters use the same code and forget that the hostname is very important on a network. Conflicts take over.
[23:29] <moza> bramgn and all : thank you for helping me. I feel a bit better bothering them after having tried to see if i didn't make errors on my own.
[23:29] <bramgn> moza: :) good luck
[23:29] <moza> Thanks. :)
[23:30] <moza> So 1) check hostname 2) talk to uni. And I managed to do the night-time reboot without having to schedule daytime downtime :D Yay! Thanks a lot !
[23:30] <Zulu_Too> I'm buying the beer folks. Gather around the table in the Ubuntu PUB. Drinks are on me.
[23:32] <bramgn> Zulu_Too: :D thanks
[23:32] <Zulu_Too> :)
[23:33] <Zulu_Too> Live is good when you have a few beers. Sitting back and programming.
[23:34] <Zulu_Too> Speaking of that. I set up a wireless Lubuntu server. It works great. I just installed it yesterday. I cannot believe that lubuntu is the best distro yet in my humble opinion.
[23:36] <Zulu_Too> My deepest thanks is to K1I for his input. Give that man another beer.
[23:39] <nicomachus> why would you decide on lubuntu for a server? why not ubuntu server?
[23:40] <Zulu_Too> Hey guys, if you all want a faster internet connection, Motorola has a Surfboard MODEM with DOCSIS SB6141. Buy it. It has the capabilities to up and download 300 mb/s. It is  a great MODEM. Service IP's don't like it but the hell with them.
[23:41] <nicomachus> Zulu_Too: no ads needed here. The guys in ##hardware or ##networking may be interested.
[23:41] <rww> ubottu: ot
[23:41] <Zulu_Too> Docsis 3.0
[23:42] <Zulu_Too> This is not an add. It is a good decision.
[23:52] <AVeryLostSoul> How familiar are the people here with using GRUB to boot from a USB?
[23:52] <BiilD73> still having NFS shares issues. can see them on remote clients (OSMC RPis'). Not sure where to look for my issue
[23:54] <AVeryLostSoul> Hmm... I suppose the better questino would be does anyone know how to boot a usb from grub
[23:54] <nicomachus> AVeryLostSoul: you don't use Grub to boot a USB, you use your system's BIOS
[23:54] <NoobsterMCTorval> does anyone know if there is a setting that  automatically moves applications to the desktop after installation? thanks
[23:55] <AVeryLostSoul> Is Grub not my system's bios? It's what loads when I attempt to access a boot menu
[23:55] <k1l_> NoobsterMCTorval: you mean like on android? no
[23:55] <LostSoul> LOL nicomachus :P
[23:55] <LostSoul> Hi AVeryLostSoul
[23:55] <AVeryLostSoul> Hello
[23:55] <LostSoul> His nick hilighted mine :P
[23:55] <k1l_> AVeryLostSoul: grub is a bootloader. bios is firmware on your mainboard that loads all the hardware
[23:55] <teward> AVeryLostSoul: BIOS is firmware, it loads long before Grub, loads all the basic hardware, etc.
[23:56] <teward> AVeryLostSoul: Grub is a bootloader, and is only loaded at boot time LONG after BIOS checks are completed
[23:56] <AVeryLostSoul> Ah, I see... Well, I'll go back to my original question, how can I boot from a usb?
[23:56] <BiilD73> AVeryLostSoulwhen you boot the system you should see an option for boot options (del/esc/f12 etc) which give you other medium then installed hdd i.e cd/dvd/usb
[23:57] <NoobsterMCTorval> kll_ sometimes applications do that in windows after they are done installing
[23:58] <BiilD73> AVeryLostSoulobviously the bios should support booting from a USB stick that you would have writtend a bootable image to
[23:58] <nicomachus> NoobsterMCTorval: you'll have to do it manually.
[23:58] <AVeryLostSoul> Alrighty, I think that makes my job a little easier.. I've been, unfortunately I've having to revert to windows due to some issues
[23:58] <Hypnotoad90> hello, i want to install ubuntu on a virtual machine on windows, should i use xen or virtualbox (or something else?)
[23:58] <NoobsterMCTorval> ah, ok
[23:58] <k1l_> NoobsterMCTorval: programs should make icons etc.
[23:59] <nicomachus> AVeryLostSoul: like what?
[23:59] <NoobsterMCTorval> what about the launcher?
[23:59] <k1l_> NoobsterMCTorval: but they are not automatically placed on the desktop