[00:01] <genii> Yep, can be annoying.
[00:09] <solvarr> How do you resize a plasma widget?
[00:33] <solvarr> oh found it
[00:46] <solvarr> Has anyone tried kde on wayland?
[01:57] <josef_> hello
[01:58] <josef_> \join #ppc
[04:39] <luvallcomputers> ok
[04:39] <valorie> ok?
[04:39] <luvallcomputers> I reboot my kubuntu 15.10 box and now have just the black log in screen
[04:39] <luvallcomputers> not plasma screen log in
[04:40] <luvallcomputers> tried install kubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <luvallcomputers> was installed
[04:40] <luvallcomputers> tried install plasma-desktop was installed
[04:41] <luvallcomputers> can someone please tell me the install name of desktop package
[04:41] <luvallcomputers> also tried to upgrade and did not find new packages
[04:46] <valorie> luvallcomputers: I assume you had backports enabled?
[04:46] <luvallcomputers> yes
[04:47] <valorie> ok, so some people are having trouble because their cache should have been flushed, and it wasn't
[04:47] <luvallcomputers> thank you
[04:47] <valorie> can you get to a terminal?
[04:47] <luvallcomputers> yes
[04:47] <valorie> alt+ctl+ f2 or so?
[04:47] <valorie> good
[04:47] <luvallcomputers> i was in terminal when I ran sudo to try the apt-get install
[04:47] <valorie> cool
[04:48] <valorie> so from there you can do: `sudo rm ~/.cache
[04:48] <valorie> `
[04:48] <valorie> and then try again to login
[04:49] <luvallcomputers> i had just done updates on the machine and it did a kernel update so was doing reboot
[04:49] <luvallcomputers> I will go try the command
[04:49] <valorie> yeah
[04:49] <valorie> there are folks who say yes, use the new cache
[04:49] <valorie> those who choose not to are getting hit by this
[04:54] <luvallcomputers> thank you but the command said it is directory so will not remove the file
[04:54] <luvallcomputers> i have forgotten the command for remove directory
[04:55] <valorie> sorry, try sudo rm ~/.cache/*
[04:55] <luvallcomputers> ok
[04:56] <valorie> there is rm -rf but that can so easily destroy everything
[04:59] <luvallcomputers> ok tried the command and it listed a bunch of directories in the file
[04:59] <luvallcomputers> but did not remove them
[04:59] <luvallcomputers> i also rebooted and still at the same place
[04:59] <luvallcomputers> should i remove some of the directories under cachie
[05:00] <luvallcomputers> cache
[05:00] <valorie> luvallcomputers: let me consult my logs
[05:00] <valorie> sec
[05:00] <luvallcomputers> thank you
[05:01] <valorie> ok, try: sudo rm ~/.cache/plasma*
[05:02] <valorie> I was being too broad
[05:02] <luvallcomputers> ok will do
[05:07] <luvallcomputers> did not work
[05:07] <valorie> hmmm
[05:08] <luvallcomputers> I do not have folder cache under root
[05:08] <luvallcomputers> i did not find under home/name
[05:08] <valorie> did you paste in what I told you to type?
[05:08] <valorie> ~/.cache is in your HOME
[05:08] <luvallcomputers> no
[05:08] <valorie> ~/ is short for $HOME
[05:09] <luvallcomputers> i am working on another computer
[05:09] <luvallcomputers> this is not the box with problem so i am typing in your command
[05:09] <valorie> got it
[05:09] <valorie> what was the output?
[05:09] <luvallcomputers> ok will go to home and try again
[05:10] <valorie> notice the dot in front
[05:11] <luvallcomputers> ok it gives the error no such file or directory
[05:11] <luvallcomputers> yes
[05:11] <luvallcomputers> rm ~/.cache/plasma*
[05:11] <valorie> perhaps try without sudo
[05:12] <valorie> but .... you have to have a .cache file
[05:12] <valorie> I'm completely baffled
[05:14] <luvallcomputers> not listed
[05:15] <luvallcomputers> ls did not show .cache directory
[05:15] <valorie> do you see it when you do `ls` ?
[05:15] <valorie> actually, `ls -a`
[05:16] <valorie> which is ls=list -a, is all
[05:17] <luvallcomputers> nothing
[05:17] <luvallcomputers> ok will list a
[05:18] <valorie> if you aren't in home, do cd first
[05:18] <luvallcomputers> ok
[05:18] <luvallcomputers> just ran ls .cache
[05:18] <luvallcomputers> it has directories but not plasma
[05:20] <valorie> this is my output from ls .cache: https://paste.kde.org/pdonijw6j
[05:20] <valorie> lots and lots of plasma files
[05:20] <luvallcomputers> has one file motd.legal-displayed
[05:21] <valorie> hmmm
[05:21] <valorie> well, cat motd.legal-displayed
[05:21] <valorie> read it
[05:22] <luvallcomputers> all other things under cache is directories
[05:22] <valorie> ok, perhaps you have permissions problems
[05:24] <luvallcomputers> maybe i need to run rm with sudo and try again
[05:24] <valorie> chown -R username folder/ is the general case, so for your $HOME it will be chown -R $HOME
[05:24] <valorie> or spell it out
[05:25] <valorie> luvallcomputers: if it isn't there, it isn't there
[05:25] <valorie> but for some reason when you try to login, they aren't being created
[05:25] <valorie> so I'm thinking that they can't be written, which leads to permissions problems
[05:25] <valorie> probably because you ran sudo on a gui application or so
[05:26] <valorie> so: `chown -R $HOME`
[05:26] <valorie> it will take a little while
[05:26] <valorie> not too long
[05:26] <valorie> then try to login again
[05:27] <valorie> or restart
[05:27] <valorie> but only after it finishes
[05:29] <luvallcomputers> it does not like the -R
[05:29] <luvallcomputers> gives error
[05:30] <luvallcomputers> missing operand
[05:31] <valorie> spell it out then: chown -R youruser /
[05:31] <valorie> where youruser is actual user
[05:33] <luvallcomputers> ok
[05:33] <luvallcomputers> it is working now on chown
[05:34] <valorie> excellent
[05:38] <luvallcomputers> ok
[05:38] <luvallcomputers> it finished the chown I rebooted and still at the log in prompt not plasma log in
[05:39] <valorie> ....
[05:39] <valorie> can you tell me more about the system?
[05:39] <valorie> did you do anything special to it before?
[05:39] <luvallcomputers> no
[05:40] <luvallcomputers> it has been running since I upgraded to 15.10
[05:40] <valorie> so you've been running 15.10 for awhile, and just upgraded?
[05:40] <luvallcomputers> ran updates and then did a reboot
[05:40] <valorie> ok
[05:40] <valorie> do you have any special repositories/PPAs?
[05:40] <luvallcomputers> but the log out button was not working so ran command to reboot
[05:41] <luvallcomputers> some
[05:41] <valorie> for instance?
[05:41] <luvallcomputers> virtual box and libre office
[05:41] <valorie> libreoffice requires a PPA?
[05:41] <luvallcomputers> nothing that has not been there since the upgrade
[05:41] <valorie> !info libreoffice
[05:41] <luvallcomputers> I think it is old
[05:41] <valorie> that's just standard
[05:42] <luvallcomputers> when i wanted the lastest version on 15.04
[05:42] <valorie> so, now that chown is done, do this: `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[05:42] <valorie> notice I'm using apt not apt-get
[05:42] <valorie> and full-upgrade not dist-upgrade
[05:46] <luvallcomputers> yes
[05:46] <luvallcomputers> i ran them
[05:47] <luvallcomputers> it come back with error
[05:47] <luvallcomputers> open lock var/lib/dpkg/lock -open 13 permission denied are you root
[05:47] <luvallcomputers> ran with sudo
[05:48] <valorie> do you have any open windows where you are running sudo?
[05:48] <valorie> or other terminals
[05:48] <luvallcomputers> no
[05:48] <luvallcomputers> none that I am aware of
[05:48] <valorie> !lock
[05:48] <valorie> pfff
[05:49] <luvallcomputers> it just has the one command prompt
[05:49] <valorie> well, you might have to wait until the lock expires
[05:49] <valorie> I'll google a bit
[05:49] <valorie> I know it can be broken
[05:49] <luvallcomputers> thank you for helping with this
[05:50] <luvallcomputers> most of the time i needed to reload the windows manager and it would work not sure why this is different
[05:52] <valorie> ok, let's try -f which is fix: `sudo apt-get install -f`
[05:52] <valorie> me either
[05:59] <luvallcomputers> did not change anything on the screen
[05:59] <luvallcomputers> it still has 0 updates or changes
[06:00] <valorie> you can use the up-arrow now though, to reuse your update && full-upgrade command
[08:28] <solvarr> hey all
[08:29] <solvarr> How do you resize the applet on panel?
[08:29] <solvarr> When I add a sticker to the panel, how do I resize the note when it's clicked?
[08:31] <hateball> solvarr: are we talking about "sticky notes" here? is this on 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[08:31] <valorie> long press
[08:31] <solvarr> yes
[08:32] <solvarr> it doesn't work
[08:32] <solvarr> outside the panel yes
[08:33] <soee> solvarr: you can't resize it on panel
[08:33] <solvarr> but it's so small
[08:34] <solvarr> might be a bug?
[08:35] <soee> show screenshot
[08:38] <solvarr> http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/aab5ee7egw1f061uvla6aj211y0lcapk.jpg
[08:38] <solvarr> BTW plasma crashed when I was adding this sticky note to panel
[08:41] <valorie> solvarr: does the bug-reporter pop up?
[08:41] <valorie> if so, please file a bug
[08:41] <solvarr> do you mean the crash? yes
[08:46] <valorie> thank you
[08:56] <solvarr> Does ubuntu have a rolling update repo?
[08:57] <hateball> solvarr: no not really, unless you constantly run devel-releases
[09:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:57] <vylu> hello. Could somebody explain how to alter polkit user permissions? I have two users on system, one of them can shutdown/restart/suspend/play audio, the other one can not. Howether, these two users are in the same groups. I gues, it might be problems with higher level permissions, probably polkit.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> !rsync
[14:22] <solvarr> When will kubuntu 16.04 be released?
[14:23] <soee_> solvarr: same as all *ubuntu
[14:23] <solvarr> great
[14:23] <soee_> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[14:23] <Maxiride> solvarr: april I guess? Like the mubering suggests
[14:23] <Maxiride> *numbering
[14:23] <soee_> yes, April 21st
[14:24] <solvarr> Can't wait
[14:24] <soee_> :)
[14:25] <soee_> shoudl be cool release, if we make Plasma 5.6 to be included, it will rox
[16:21] <RansomTime> is there a GUI tool for dealing with fstab
[16:22] <RansomTime> pysdm was recommended but it's not in repos
[16:23] <RansomTime> looks like I can run gnome-discs from KDE, didn't realise, installed and running now
[16:27] <BluesKaj_> RansomTime, right click on the desktop choose run command, then in the runbox kdesudo kate /etc/fstab. That's as close to a giu for editing fstab you're gonna find
[16:28] <RansomTime> gnome-discs worked
[16:29] <RansomTime> I'm fine with vim to edit, it's just I don't know "what" I need to add
[18:34] <sharanag> i just installed kubuntu 15.10, and can't get my MTS MBlaze dongle to work
[18:34] <sharanag> it worked alright when I tested kubuntu from live usb yesterday
[18:35] <sharanag> i've added a new network connection and it keeps getting "deactivated" as soon as i press connect
[18:35] <sharanag> anyone know what the problem could be?
[18:47] <sharanag> no help?
[19:01] <dadangle> Hey everyone, new here. Longtime Kubuntu user but I've got a newb question. Anyone willing to help?
[19:14] <toams> after startup i'm stuck with a black screen. only the mouse pointer is displaying. looks like kwin/plasmashell did not start
[19:14] <toams> can somebody help debug this?
[19:14] <toams> it started after upgrading yesterday
[19:14] <toams> kubuntu-backports
[19:17] <BluesKaj> toams, which kubuntu release?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> +**
[19:18] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:18] <toams> 15.10 i believe
[19:19] <toams> how to check?
[19:19] <BluesKaj> lsb_release -a
[19:20] <toams> 15.10 it is
[19:20] <BluesKaj> ok , toams what's you graphics chip/gpu?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> your
[19:22] <toams> amd running free drivers
[19:23] <toams> are kdeinit4 and kded4 supposed to be running?
[19:25] <toams> that can't be right, currently kdeinit4 and kdeinit5 are both running?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> which plasma version?, plasmasherll -v
[19:26] <BluesKaj> oops plasmashell
[19:27] <toams> 5.5.3
[19:30] <BluesKaj> afaik they should not be running
[19:31] <toams> funny thing: if i wait for the screensaver to start and then resume working i have fully working desktop
[19:32] <BluesKaj> there's problem with lockscreen so I have it disabled
[19:33] <toams> i'm going to try to remove kdeinit4 from my system
[19:36] <toams> what a shame muon is removed... I really liked it. i hope it finds a maintainer soon
[19:37] <BluesKaj> toams, install libmuon and muon
[19:46] <sui> hi, yesterday i got a kde update from 5.4 to 5.5 from this repo kubuntu-ppa/backports but now i don't have sound anymore
[19:46] <sui> i just have a dummy device playing no sound at all
[19:49] <soee> update should not affect sound i think
[19:49] <sui> everything else seems okay, the correct intel hda drivers are loaded, /dev/snd/* is available with ownership root:audio
[19:49] <soee> did you checked configuration in System Settings -> Multimedia ?
[19:50] <sui> soee: yes, i checked systemsettings - multimedia and as i aid theres only a dummy devce available
[19:50] <BluesKaj> sui , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , or check alsmixer first and disable automute
[19:51] <BluesKaj> alsamixer
[19:51] <BluesKaj> sui or both
[19:53] <toams> damnit i changed compositing from xrender to opengl 3.1 and now my screen displays only rubbish
[19:54] <toams> how to change it back via config file or something? i'm logged in remotly
[19:58] <sui> BluesKaj: snd_hda_intel was loaded before and i hopefully disabled auto-mute with "amixer -c 0 sset "Auto-Mute Mode" Disabled" but still no luck
[20:00] <BluesKaj> sui, i just open alsamixer and disable automute, to be sure
[20:01] <sui> BluesKaj: checked that. it's disabled. channels are unmuted when theres a green "OO" below signal bars, right?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> sui, right
[20:03] <BluesKaj> other users will disagree, but with intel audio , one doesn't really need pulseaudio unless you plan on several simultaneos sound sources. Intel audio drivers are written to run perfectly fine directly with alsa
[20:04] <sui> BluesKaj: that does not change anything. and i still can use a dummy device in systemsettings/ multimedia
[20:04] <BluesKaj> that's the kind of audio setup i use
[20:04] <sui> yesterday i had luck after installing kmix, but after a reboot i lost my sound device again
[20:06] <sui> i cannot chose any soundcard in the other tab
[20:07] <BluesKaj> if you want pure alsa then purge pulseaudio, but that's your call...otherwise it will take no end of fiddling around to pulseaudio setup properly
[20:07] <BluesKaj> to set up pulseaudio that is'
[20:22] <sui> BluesKaj: it depends how many problems i still have. for now i just rebooted and the problems went away
[20:23] <BluesKaj> sui, so you have sound ?
[20:23] <sui> yes
[20:23] <BluesKaj> ok good
[20:23] <sui> perhaps it was alsas auto-mute. how can i disable that permanently?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> open alsamixer in the terminal, then escape, then, sudo alsactl store
[20:26] <BluesKaj> if automute is already disabled
[20:26] <arnaudoff> hi guys, want to ask you something
[20:27] <arnaudoff> hope someone can help me
[20:27] <sui> BluesKaj: done, will check that
[20:27] <sui> glad it's no kde problem ;)
[20:27] <BluesKaj> arnaudoff, ask your question first. if we can help we will
[20:28] <arnaudoff> i have dual boot on my laptop using win10 and linux. i have no experience in using linux. i have problem with my headphones. they're working perfectly in win10 but here there's no sound. i've tried listening to a song in youtube and making a skype call. found a solution for ubuntu at their forum, even though the man who asked for it had similar laptop to mine. the guy who answered him had wrote this: alsactl restore
[20:28] <arnaudoff> but this command didnt helped me so i dont know what to do. thank you in advance.
[20:31] <arnaudoff> @BluesKaj, do you have any ideas?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> arnaudoff, open a terminal and run this, cat /proc/asound/modules
[20:33] <BluesKaj> paste the output here , there will probly just be 2 lines or so
[20:34] <arnaudoff>  0 snd_hda_intel
[20:38] <BluesKaj> arnaudoff, open a terminal and type. alasmixer , use the right arrow key to navigate to the automute ctl, use the down arrow key to disable automute
[20:39] <BluesKaj> also turn up the master volume and the pcm volume to the max and make sure there are no MM in the ctls
[20:44] <arnaudoff> BluesKaj: i did what you told me but it doesnt work :(
[20:45] <arnaudoff> master / headphone / pcm - 100% auto-mute - off
[20:45] <fu> hi
[20:46] <soee> hiho
[20:49] <fu_> re
[20:49] <fu_> I dunno if you saw my last 2 comments
[20:50] <fu_> (my internet connection is _very_ unstable :()
[20:50] <fu_> I just installed the 15.08 apps, with the shiny "new" plasma. Now, when I configure the panel to "Windows Can Go Below", I cannot access the panel when a window is maximized
[20:50] <fu_> is there a way to fix that, ie. being able to access the panels again, by using the mouse on the screen border?
[20:50] <soee> nope
[20:51] <BluesKaj> arnaudoff, system settings>multimedia>music, the device preference tab pass the cursor over each entry in the list to find the "Card 0" in the popup dialog, choose that and move it to the the top, then click the test button.
[20:51] <soee> fu_: works fine here for me, apps go under panel and i interact with panel normally
[20:51] <fu_> which version do you use, Kubuntu 15.10 ?
[20:51] <soee> fu_: 16.04
[20:52] <fu_> is it stable enough?
[20:52] <fu_> :)
[20:52] <soee> for me yes ;D
[20:52] <soee> but you should stay on 15.10 on production machines
[20:53] <fu_> also, is it normal that (folder) icons in dolphin are only black and white when using the detailled view ?
[20:53] <soee> fu_: show screenshot please
[20:54] <soee> black/white icons are used for small size icons
[20:54] <fu_> I just checked, is when the icon size is below 32px. This is anoying (and ugly imho)
[20:54] <soee> inf you increase their size, they should get changed to colored
[20:54] <fu_> so, no way to get back some color for small sized icons ?
[20:55] <soee> nope, if you want to sue breeze iconset
[20:55] <fu_> I will, it's outrageous !
[20:56] <fu_> well, back to oxygen, the breeze test was short :)
[20:56] <soee> :D
[20:57] <fu_> well, not being able to access the panels is a bummer
[20:57] <sui> BluesKaj: fyi: if i reboot i don't have sound devices in kde i have to relogin one or two times and then suddenly it works.
[20:57] <soee> it should work fine
[20:58] <fu_> it should yes
[20:59] <xpsu> Does Kubuntu have the same 'spyware' that Ubuntu has?
[21:00] <Cruzhm> So has anyone installed kubuntu on a macbook pro?
[21:01] <BluesKaj> sui, opena terminal, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then reboot
[21:02] <soee> xpsu: no
[21:03] <acher88> xpsu: kubuntu doesnt have any equivalent of those features
[21:03] <xpsu> soee acher88: Thanks for the data! I am happy to be here as a new Kubuntu user.
[21:03] <BluesKaj> xpsu, no unity desktop bloatware here either
[21:04] <sui> BluesKaj: i'll give it a try, but what should modprobe fix in this case? the module was loaded
[21:05] <BluesKaj> sui, sometimes the module is not loaded after an upgrade and one needs to run that command .. it's a small but annoying bug
[21:23] <sui> BluesKaj: did a modprobe and rebooted butthe problem remains
[21:23] <sui> after the first login i just have the dummy device
[21:34] <BluesKaj> sui, open alsamixer , F6 ,choose the HDA or (card 0), then esc key then sudo alsactl store
[21:47] <xpsu> Hey I just installed Kubuntu and updated my Video Driver. I had really tiny fonts but I fixed it with 'Fonts - Force fonts DPI' but the loggon window is still tiny fonts. Anyone know how to fix that?
[21:48] <xpsu> Sorry if someone already anwsered something funny happened to me during the netsplit.
[21:50] <BluesKaj> xpsu, increase the font size globally in system settings>Fonts>adjust all Fonts and apply
[22:06] <wxl> um
[22:06] <wxl> how do i save a panel? XD
[22:31] <em> Im looking for some advice about Kubuntu --- I just got Kubuntu 15.10 and I notice that when I let the laptop go into suspend, with the lid shut, I come back and open the lid, login, and I find that there are widgets that have been added to the desktop and panel.. random widges and lots of them.
[22:31] <em> what's going on there and how I do prevent that?
[22:32] <ndavis> All: Just installed osTicket and the new version has a MySQL DROP ALL statement that wiped out all 500 of my existing DBs.  Are these still in MySQL history and can I recover without running a massive backup scenario?  Usually takes about 4+ hours from full backup!
[22:33] <ndavis> All: 2nd Q!  Have MySQL DB instances not in the default directory, pull from other sources.  How do I connect to these and extract their data?
[22:45] <xpsu> Hey, I am having trouble adjusting the dpi of the login screen. I found several forums on how to fix it but none see applicable to Kubuntu. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-67376.html
[22:51] <em> i have a much easier question. I just want to know how to manage widgets on kubuntu 15.10  both putting them places, the desktop, the panel, the meaning of locking and unlocking, removing them etc.
[22:51] <em> also why is there a desktop thingy at the top and also on the pannel
[22:51] <em> and to lock both in both places
[22:52] <em> maybe this is easy if you always used kubuntu but i have to say this is not intuitive!