[00:56] <patdk-lap> Valduare, the ssd is dead
[00:56] <patdk-lap> when they detect they are dead, they go into read-only mode
[00:56] <patdk-lap> nothing yo ucan do to save it, it's toast
[00:57] <patdk-lap> it does that, so you can still recover your infomation from it
[01:01] <Valduare> stupid ssd :P
[05:29] <sgraham> i need to create an upstart job.
[05:30] <sgraham> one for fault_tolerant_router
[05:30] <sarnold> be sure to have this guide handy :) http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[05:35] <sarnold> sgraham: that's a neat looking tool. thanks.
[05:50] <sgraham> fault_tolerant_router ?
[05:50] <sgraham> sarnold: have you used it?
[05:51] <sgraham> I think its bloody brilliant!  it has saved my ass 20 times in the last 10 days.
[05:52] <sgraham> i only have one problem with it. I have to restart the monitor every time i make a change to the config file. I wish it would read the config every time it runs its connectivity sweep.
[05:53] <sarnold> sgraham: no, I hadn't heard of it before you mentioned it
[05:54] <sarnold> sgraham: you can probably do something slightly better with upstart -- if you use the "upstart-file-bridge" you ought to be able to restart the service when the configuration file is changed: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#upstart-file-bridge
[05:54] <sgraham> sometimes i have to take certain uplinks off line. Currently i have to reboot the software router when i make those changes because i start the monitor with a post up line in the interfaces file.
[05:55] <sgraham> at the time it seemed like the best way to do this process (because its a router so why not reload the configs when the interface reloads)
[05:56] <sgraham> ive decided the better way though is to make it an upstart job.  That way i make my changes to the config and then i can just run  "service fault_tolerant_router restart"
[05:57] <sgraham> that seems to work fine...i get this hang though when i try and reboot the physical router after starting it as a service.
[05:59] <sgraham> this problem does not seem to crop up with the virtual test environment though..(ill figure that out later via the logs)  The problem now is to get openvpn client to reconnect after the service is restarted.
[05:59] <sgraham> I dont want to wait 60 seconds.
[06:00] <sgraham> these connections are for a SCADA system and they dont like 300ms of latency.
[06:03] <sgraham> duuuuude...uses inotify....thats bad ass...
[06:04] <sgraham> sarnold: ...thank you for doing my research,  In my country...This may mean i have to marry your sister (even if she is not very attractive)
[06:04] <sarnold> believe me, she isn't
[06:04] <sarnold> she's also my brother
[06:04] <sarnold> sorry
[06:04] <sarnold> try to act surprised though :)
[06:06] <sgraham> I will do my best.  You will have to also follow the customs of my country though in regards to brother in law duties...
[06:06] <sarnold> man I hope it's just limited to buying a beer or two at family gatherings
[06:07] <sgraham> no, also at jousting events, sword competitions and sailing regatas.
[06:09] <sarnold> hmm, sailing regattas, it's not all bad.
[06:09] <sgraham> so when will you be comming to visit?
[06:09] <sarnold> lets make it the summer time
[06:10] <sgraham> yes...there is lots of wine available in summer here. That is a good planning.
[06:10] <sarnold> awwww yisss
[06:11] <sgraham> I have videos by the way of virtual environment with fault_tolerant fail over router in working order. would you like to see....also how will you be ariving in my country Plane? boat?
[06:12] <sarnold> oh please :)
[06:12] <sarnold> boat sounds good, might as well get ready for the regattas
[06:13] <sgraham> yes, good planning again.
[06:15] <sgraham> I will have to talk to officials and get papers in order for marriage to your sister....um...brother...ish? person?  Good news is this country is quite comfortable with these sorts of marriage.
[06:17] <sarnold> very progressive place
[06:17] <sgraham> yep
[06:17]  * ianorlin ended up thinking ecc gender but hope that will not offend non binary people
[06:18] <sgraham> We call it California.
[06:18] <sgraham> :-)
[06:19] <ianorlin> !loco
[06:19] <sarnold> sgraham: what a crazy name for such a country!
[06:19]  * ianorlin is one of three leaders for ubuntu california loco and hope to see you if you are at scale
[06:19] <sgraham> hahaha
[06:20] <sgraham> that joke works so much better when you ask "what the hell country do you live in!"
[06:20] <ianorlin> but that is more of a #ubuntu-us-ca question but you seem like a good person to have around
[06:21] <sarnold> ianorlin: nice, is brendan gregg doing another presentation there this go around? I've seen a few of his talks on youtube, well worth the time..
[06:21] <sgraham> seriously though...my wife said i cant get married anymore.  Also i have those videos (about an hour because they are pretty through.)
[06:22] <sgraham> tell you sister/brotherish person im sorry .
[06:23] <sarnold> oh I'm sure he'll understand, and, hpefully some day, move on with his life.
[06:24] <ianorlin> but I should get to bed as that conference starts tommorow for talks and yes 1pm on Sunday
[06:24] <ianorlin> sgraham: ^
[06:24] <sarnold> ianorlin: woo, have fun
[06:24] <sarnold> (talks on a sunday?? odd..)
[06:25] <sgraham> pegans they are everywhere now...godless worka holics...its amazing how much stuff they get done.
[06:25] <sgraham> and just with one extra day.
[06:26] <sgraham> sarnold: can you check something for me from the outside (you know...the world outside my network...like where the pizzaman lives?)
[06:26] <sarnold> hehe sure
[06:26] <sgraham> resume.booksnmore.com
[06:26] <sgraham> sorry
[06:26] <sarnold> "Index of /" -- auto-generated, but blank
[06:27] <sgraham> mthrfkr...you broke it.
[06:27] <sgraham> its using a ton of memory..its all jammed up...
[06:28] <sarnold> reload confirms, 503
[06:28] <sarnold> that one took a bit of time, not nearly as fast as the first one
[06:28] <sgraham> i rebooted it..
[06:28] <sgraham> actually i think its a werid router..issue.
[06:29] <sarnold> ahh
[06:29] <sarnold> "Index of /" again
[06:35] <sgraham> oooo crap..weird thing
[06:35] <sgraham> upgraded that server from 12.04 and it makes sub dir under www/html
[06:36] <sarnold> apache 2.2 -> 2.4 changed a fair bit; I spent days once piecing together fixes for some automated tests..
[06:47] <sgraham> http://resume.booksnmore.com/videos.php?selected_video=dual-backhaul-router-concept.webm
[06:47] <sgraham> sarnold: stick that crazy stuff in yo browser and watch it!
[06:47] <sarnold> hey! it works!
[06:48] <sgraham> fknaright...
[06:48] <sgraham> you use kvm at all?
[06:48] <sarnold> a bit; most of the hard work is done by scripts I don't understand around libvirt (which I also don't understand) :/
[06:49] <sgraham> libvirt is the digital voodoo that does the stuff...as far as im concerned.  Im vmware certified but i never use it because its two damnd expensive
[06:50] <sgraham> kvm works pretty damn good for something that is free.
[06:50] <sarnold> I thuoght esxi was free or something?
[06:50] <sgraham> ya..you can get really screwed around with building things that will eventually need...liscensing.
[06:51] <sarnold> I've thought breifly about trying to write my own wrappers around kvm; libvirt seems more annoying than it's worth, but..
[06:51] <sarnold> ahhhhh
[06:51] <sarnold> much like doing anything with oracle software. heh.
[06:52] <sgraham> Honestly ive seen vmware tank pretty frequently.  they dont support the free version of it nearly as much as the comunity suppors kvm...thats beside the point..
[06:52] <sgraham> i was just making sure you knew what was going on there with the virt environment.
[06:53] <sgraham> im going to look more into that upstart-file-bridge.  Thanks again man.
[06:54] <sarnold> my pleasure :) it's been fun
[06:55] <sgraham> yep, by the way i build custom appliances that do multi backhaul backends and openvpn concetrators.
[06:56] <sgraham> you ever need any work like that done give me a holler.....and if you need somebody to marry your homely sister...sorry wife says im taken.
[06:56] <sgraham> fault tolerant portion of that process is the next video on the list.
[06:57] <sarnold> heh, I've wondered what I'd do with my comcast connection if/when google fibre finally arrives.. would I want to keep it and dual-home? or be thrilled to be rid of comcast? :) heh
[07:00] <sgraham> most my clients would kill for a comcast connection.  I have it at my homeoffice (was one of the major deciding factors of buying this house) Critical apps up here need two sometimes as many as 4 potential connection types to be viable.
[07:01] <sgraham> snow, rain, rodents, crazy mountain people, fire, all sorts of "little com devils" to muck things up.
[07:01] <sarnold> don't get me wrong, if it weren't for comcast the next choice would be way worse.
[07:01] <sgraham> oh and mountains.
[07:01] <sgraham> trees...those get in the way alot
[07:02] <sgraham> ive put up my fair share of last mile wireless this year. Im buying stock in Ubiquty
[07:02] <sarnold> heh you're not kidding, you're a long way from anything :)
[07:03] <sgraham> sierra foothills.
[07:03] <sarnold> heh, I've got a ubiquity router 75% configured, just need that last push to install it and find out what I forgot..
[07:03] <sgraham> that stuffs amazing.
[07:04] <sgraham> i just did a business the other day..after i was done the diffeence was so obviouse somebody asked me.."dude are we gonna get brain cancer now from this?"
[07:04] <sarnold> haha
[07:05] <sgraham> I told them  i didnt know..because...well i honestly dont know .
[07:05] <sarnold> yeah; if it were vastly more powerful than advertised, well, maybe... but you figure that'd be discovered by someone sooner or later.
[07:07] <sgraham> I dont know..just from our history and typical complete missunderstanding of whats important...im assuming its all bad  (just because we really dont live long enough to care anyway)  The alien race that finds us are going to point and lol at our bones when they see what we have been doing.
[07:08] <sgraham> they are probably doing it now
[07:09] <sgraham> they are all like..."been there done that...like a trillon years ago...got the tshirt and the hat...aww snap!"
[07:09] <sarnold> hahahaha
[07:12] <sgraham> somewhere there is a meeting...(probably with like a much more advanced "hangouts"(or maybe just hangouts who knows)) and the conversation is like..."What was the deal with that blue planet again?...Oh ya earth..total waist of time..dont want to go there.  The have this method of time bartering based on paper...made from trees...and they are almost out of trees. They are not very bright."
[07:13] <sarnold> "mostly harmless"
[07:14] <sgraham> ya exactly...dude i literally pulled over got out of my car and cried when that dude died.
[07:15] <sarnold> certainly a hoopy frood who knew where his towel was.
[07:16] <sgraham> Yep, i carry one with me on my mobile office.
[07:16] <sgraham> i show you my mobile office?
[07:16] <sarnold> not yet
[07:17] <sgraham> damn it mv4 format...let me convert that
[07:18] <sgraham> so what do you do?
[07:19] <sarnold> I work on the ubuntu security team
[07:19] <sgraham> I was a stripper to pay my way through colledge.
[07:19] <sgraham> never did get my degree.
[07:20] <sgraham> kept getting hired and couldnt seem to concentrate on the bookwork.
[07:20] <sgraham> you get paid to work for ubuntu?
[07:20] <sarnold> sgraham: yeah
[07:20] <sgraham> sound like a pretty cool gig...ssssh...dont tell anybody
[07:21] <sarnold> it -is- a cool gig :) work from home, great co-workers, great users, lots of fun things to learn
[07:21] <sgraham> dude ill bet you get all kinds of cool programs for free!!
[07:22] <sarnold> hehe yeah :)
[07:22] <sgraham> kinda like....us..
[07:22] <sgraham> hehehe
[07:22] <sarnold> it's easy to get spoiled with tens of thousands of programs just an "apt-get install" away
[07:26] <sgraham> http://resume.booksnmore.com/videos/new_mobile_office.webm
[07:27] <sgraham> i just picked up a new toughbook...(well i mean not new but cf-29)
[07:28] <sgraham> I would up with 2 of those bikes
[07:29] <sgraham> you ever in the area give me a holler i have access to over 50 miles of private road.
[07:30] <sarnold> haha, the towel makes a ton of sense :)
[07:30] <sarnold> you might get wet in your office :)
[07:30] <sarnold> 50 miles of private road through those mountains. lovely.
[07:30] <sgraham> ya. this time of year i have to deal with snow..lots of mud
[07:31] <sarnold> its not all summer days like the video?
[07:31] <sgraham> no.
[07:31] <sgraham> we loose com on equipment i have to get to it quick.
[07:32] <sgraham> sometimes No road left. have to get creative
[07:32] <sgraham> its a pretty cool job..other days...im just changing out printer cartridges.
[07:33] <sarnold> printers. ugh.
[07:33] <sgraham> wishing something else would be wrong.
[07:34] <sgraham> oooh crap...so dude...when the hell am i going to be able to get a phone out of you guys?
[07:34] <sgraham> i want an ubuntu phone so bad...
[07:35] <sarnold> if you grab an old nexus 4 off ebay you can flash that now, though I understand the Real Things from BQ and Meizu are nicer and have more stuff -- I haven't seen one of those yet myself
[07:35] <sarnold> well, "nicer" -- I think the BQ and Meizu  units may be roughly comparable to the nexus 4 specs, but the ubuntu experience on them should be better.
[07:36] <sgraham> i got 4 galaxy .....alphas (just did a switch out to verizon from att for municipality)
[07:39] <sgraham> I do this ride...about 700 miles of desert in death valley every year, i got to drag a damn panasonic toughbook with me the entire time cause i need a true linux os incase my customers have any issues
[07:40] <sgraham> i would really just prefer the linux phone...duuuu
[07:40] <sarnold> you'd probably still want to drag it along: there's a huge pile of funny things on the phone, you can't just apt-get install whatever you need..
[07:40] <sgraham> that toughbook takes up about a gallon of fuel space.
[07:41] <sarnold> and weighs enough to cost another gallon? :)
[07:42] <sgraham> its...probably 10 pounds..bike can take it..but the space is the issue
[07:42] <sgraham> and power..
[07:42] <sarnold> I think the ssh from the phone -may- work well enough that it might be alright if that's all you need; but it sure isn't a pocket-sized network swiss army knife
[07:42] <sgraham> i only get 7 hours with the thoughbook..phone ..hell i have charge cord for it.
[07:43] <sgraham> i can do a spice thing back to office but, there are some things (mostly network stream analysis) i would like to run right from a vpn into a concentrator.
[07:44] <sgraham> actually i could do that from the spice connection as well...its just another hop and connectivity to have to worry about
[07:44] <sarnold> *nod* the fewer the moving parts, the better..
[07:45] <sgraham> yep one less node to worry about
[07:46] <sgraham> this year i got the wife a new wrangler. Im gonna have her haull all the com stuff i might need. Ill meet up with her and just check in on alarms
[07:47] <sgraham> ubuntu...where you work from US?
[07:47] <sarnold> sgraham: portland, or
[07:48] <sgraham> ahh ...land of no sun
[07:48] <sgraham> good beer though
[07:48] <sgraham> you need miserable light and shitty watter to make good beer i think
[07:49] <sarnold> why yes we've had weeks of rain how'd you know? :)
[07:50] <sgraham> i remember alot of banana slugs..and just general rotting wet stuff up there...until the city then...wet concreet and drunks.
[07:50] <sarnold> the water's friggen delicious though, the only better water I've had came from a glacier-fed spring after a ten mile hike, so it's not exactly accessible.. :)
[07:50] <sgraham> kinda the same thing really
[07:51] <sgraham> weeks of rain...bastards ...took it from us dint ya!
[07:51] <sarnold> we've still got the slugs but .. it seems like there were more of them twenty years back. maybe I'm just accustomed to them now, but it seemed like they used to be more prominent. :)
[07:52] <sarnold> hey not me you've got the wrong guy see!
[07:52] <sarnold> we didn't touch your rain honest mister
[07:52] <sarnold> this is the same rain we've always had, ask anyone!
[07:52] <sgraham> well our watter went somewhere else. and thats all the info we have, Im blaiming anyone else who has more than us...thats just logic man.
[07:53] <shauno> ireland here.  willing to donate rain!  (buyer collects)
[07:54] <sarnold> honestly you can have some of it, the other day we had enough that my basement was soggy. I spent the whole day with a shop vac...
[07:54] <sarnold> $600 worth of pumps later and a few impromptu holes in my backyard and things are looking bette.r.
[07:54] <sarnold> shauno: heh :)
[07:55] <sgraham> Took a trip up there when i was a kid...i remember asking my dad.."when does it STOP raining?"  He told me,  These poor bastards forget what the sun looks like. Look at them..they have the same color as tuna! One day we will find they have all turned to fish."
[07:56] <sarnold> sgraham: and yet, we've got a -huge- amount of skin cancer. when we -do- get sunny days we stand outside, facing the sun, eyes closed.
[07:57] <sarnold> we've got no melanin so it really packs a wallop
[07:57] <sarnold> and no sense to stay in the shade
[07:57] <sgraham> I had a girlfriend from canada...she use to literally HIDE from the sun.  she told me one day.  "We dont have that thing(the sun) where i come from...it causes cancer you best stay in doors when it is about"
[07:57] <sarnold> see? canadians are smart.
[07:58] <sgraham> yep...she got ride of me
[07:58] <sgraham> proof
[07:59] <sarnold> hehe
[08:00] <sgraham> damn..pumpkinOclock
[08:00] <sarnold> man when'd that happen...
[08:01] <sgraham> time sucks...its just the universes way of keeping us all in its pocket..
[08:01] <sgraham> its the curency with actual backing
[08:02] <sarnold> and there's never enough of it..
[08:03] <sgraham> the universe figured out if it could keep everything from happening all at once they could get monopolisze on life ...and marketing it as a good thing.
[08:04] <sgraham> like camel cigs..and cokeacola.
[08:04] <sarnold> haah
[10:32] <zbouby15> hi all
[10:33] <zbouby15> i'm trying to install a SFTP with HA/load balancing features, could you please give me your thoughts regarding my LAB ==> http://postimg.org/image/3rtwxt15h/ ?
[11:23] <roaksoax> win 13
[11:27] <adun153> Hi, need some Apache2 help. I have this "<VirtualHost 192.168.0.10:35357>", but for some reason, Apache keeps on listening on ALL interfaces, not just on the interface that 192.168.0.10 is assigned to. What am I doing wrong?
[11:28] <hateball> adun153: and it's listening on 35357 on all interfaces?
[11:28] <adun153> yes
[11:29] <adun153> hateball: yes
[11:29] <rbasak> adun153: iirc, you need a Listen directive outside for the VirtualHosts to tell Apache what to listen on.
[11:29] <hateball> Yep
[11:29] <adun153> I tried adding "Listen 192.168.0.10:35357" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[11:29] <rbasak> The virtualhosts definitions are a subset of that so that apache knows where to expect each virtualhost (in case you're serving HTTPS without SNI, for example)
[11:30] <adun153> Apache2 couldn't start up, stating that there already was something listening on 192.168.0.10:35357
[11:30] <hateball> This is pretty clear https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html
[11:30] <rbasak> Use netstat to figure that out.
[11:30] <hateball> adun153: What does your NameVirtualHost look like?
[11:32] <adun153> hateball: In which file should that be located?
[11:32] <adun153> Same as the site config file?
[11:33] <laskdj> hi
[11:35] <hateball> adun153: I linked you from the official docs
[11:36] <hateball> But yes, it should be in the website in question
[11:36] <adun153> Ah, I get it now
[11:36] <adun153> Yes
[11:36] <adun153> Thanks, I guess I just needed someone to help me bounce off ideas, I'm pretty frazzled at this point
[11:36] <adun153> I had "Listen 35357" on top
[11:37] <adun153> I just changed it to "Listen 192.168.0.10:35357", and that seemed to fix it.
[11:37] <adun153> :D
[13:10] <coreycb`> jamespage, hey, can you sponsor this? https://code.launchpad.net/~corey.bryant/ubuntu/trusty/oslo.messaging/lp1318721/+merge/283304
[13:30] <jamespage> coreycb`, done
[13:30] <coreycb`> jamespage, thanks
[17:23] <Azaril> hello
[17:23] <Azaril> im getting this weird error
[17:23] <Azaril> https://gist.github.com/benjfield/4adcf48620da1a8e87ec
[17:25] <Synx_hm> Having some issues installing openstack (openstack-install) it keeps stalling with 'kvm container creation failed: exit status 1' i dont see anything relevant in commands.log. Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS on 3.19.0-47-generic (this is run on ESXi host with guest cpu virtualizaion extensions enabled)
[17:25] <Synx_hm> same issues with both ppa:cloud-install/stable and experimental
[17:25] <Waheedi> now i have gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.1-2ubuntu1~12.04) 4.8.1 i want to upgrade to gcc 4.8.2
[17:25] <Waheedi> I was on gcc 4.6 :)
[17:27] <sgraham> this may be a stupid question...but..ok stupid.
[17:28] <sgraham> i created an upstart job and it seems to be working just fine, problem is, there are two of these process running now.  Does not seem to cause any issues..but im just trying to figure out if that is normal
[17:29] <sgraham> the upstart job is for a fault_tolerant_router
[17:33] <Waheedi> are you sure its not one process forking something else sgraham?
[17:34] <Waheedi> how can I use this library in presice? http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gcc-4.8-base
[17:35] <Waheedi> i think that is not possible
[17:35] <Waheedi> i have to upgrade to 14.04
[17:48] <Azaril> anyone got any ideas on https://gist.github.com/benjfield/4adcf48620da1a8e87ec?
[17:49] <dasjoe> Azaril: is this in a VM? See https://bugs.launchpad.net/qemu/+bug/1336794
[17:50] <Azaril> yes
[17:51] <Azaril> not sure i have 9pfs though
[17:54] <fuzzywuzzy> What are people using for a KVM GUI?
[18:03] <pmatulis> fuzzywuzzy: virt manager
[18:08] <fuzzywuzzy> Anyone tried ovirt?
[18:08] <fuzzywuzzy> I think its still alpha
[18:08] <fuzzywuzzy> much more feature rich
[18:11] <fuzzywuzzy> I don't want to use XEN because you have to manually load patches
[18:12] <fuzzywuzzy> and the crappy Win32 interface requirement
[18:51] <sgraham> you guys ever had an upstart job that causes the system to hang on shutdown?
[18:53] <sgraham> by the way kyle i diabled you email on your phone yesterday (forgot to tell you about that) Im still trying to figure out why it is behaving the way it is.
[18:53] <sgraham> oops wrongwindow
[21:20] <blizzow> How do I select UTC as the timezone during a server install? The 15.x installs seem to restrict me to a country based timezone.
[21:39] <RoyK> blizzow: choose Iceland ;)
[21:41] <RoyK> blizzow: or just run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, choose Etc and then UTC, after installing
[21:41] <RoyK> blizzow: but Iceland just uses UTC as it is, no summertime or nothing
[21:45] <blizzow> Still sucks that it UTC was removed from the choices during installation. :/
[21:46] <RoyK> blizzow: no idea why. I don't use ubuntu for servers anymore. I just stick around here by old habit
[23:56] <jonah> Hi I hope someone can please help. My postfix doesn't seem to stay loaded. I can start it and it says OK but then it quits itself. Can anyone help. I also get this error in the syslog: arning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: bad command startup
[23:58] <sarnold> are there any postfix-specific logs in e.g. /var/log/postfix or /var/log/upstart/postfix* ?