| amer | hello | 02:35 |
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| niklas___ | hi | 08:58 |
| niklas___ | i have a desktop computer with an Elo touchscreen | 08:58 |
| niklas___ | and i was wondering if it should be possible to run ubuntu touch there | 08:59 |
| niklas___ | installation instructions i found only mention installing on smartphones | 08:59 |
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| lotuspsychje | niklas___: what Os is running on your computer? | 09:04 |
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| Stanley00 | niklas___: I think you can install normal Desktop Ubuntu version and replace unity with unity8, but I'm not really sure | 09:04 |
| lotuspsychje | Stanley00: unity8 is being worked on for now mate, not ready until xenial release i think | 09:05 |
| niklas___ | i have a fresh ubuntu installed there. but i don't mind wiping that | 09:06 |
| niklas___ | lotuspsychje: is there an experimental version i could try? | 09:06 |
| niklas___ | i only need this to work for ~2 days on a fair :) | 09:06 |
| lotuspsychje | niklas___: yes unity8 is already useable, but little simple | 09:07 |
| niklas___ | ok, thanks -- i'll give it a shot! | 09:07 |
| lotuspsychje | niklas___: ive tested it on ubuntu desktop 16.04 development version | 09:07 |
| Stanley00 | niklas___: you can try follow this url https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop , and also xenial has an daily image now | 09:07 |
| lotuspsychje | niklas___: it looks like a simple ubuntu touch version right now | 09:07 |
| robin-hero | hey all, quick question: I'm using rc-proposed channel on my Bq device now. If I make the FS writable and add an external PPA to it and install newer version of some packages from it. If I reflash my phone without wipe, it will be overwrite these new packages? | 09:12 |
| mcphail | yes | 09:13 |
| robin-hero | I want to test a silo, after that I want to go back to original rc-proposed, but without data loss | 09:13 |
| robin-hero | so it is possible? | 09:13 |
| Stanley00 | robin-hero: it depends, if you flash from delta image, chance that it won't be wiped | 09:13 |
| mcphail | robin-hero: from my experience, a reflash nukes everything under /etc, /usr (and /usr/local - which is a pain and a bug imho). OTAs/deltas don't wipe everything | 09:14 |
| robin-hero | thanks mcphail :) | 09:15 |
| mcphail | robin-hero: probably worth a backup anyway, just in case something goes wrong and you need to run a --bootstrap flash | 09:17 |
| robin-hero | mcphail, yes, always do that in the first place :) | 09:20 |
| robin-hero | mcphail, BTW, could I create a backup from the whole system? like on android? | 09:21 |
| mcphail | robin-hero: don't think so. You could copy everything from $HOME, but I don't think there is a way to backup your apps | 09:26 |
| Stanley00 | in theory, since the system partition is readonly, the userdata partition is where all the data go. So maybe just backup all in the userdata dataparition can do that, right? | 09:29 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Hugging Day! 😃 | 09:33 |
| robin-hero | Other topic: I've just done some application's startup speed test on rc-proposed (Bq A E4.5) and it looks far better than my previous measurement with an earlier OTA (maybe with OTA-6?) | 09:43 |
| robin-hero | Dialer app: 3,84 s -> 2,6 s | 09:44 |
| robin-hero | Messaging app: 6,65 s -> 3,7 s | 09:44 |
| robin-hero | System Settings: 6,45 s -> 2,8 s | 09:44 |
| robin-hero | And If I know right the real improvment will be arrive with OTA-10 and mapplauncher | 09:45 |
| mcphail | Still too long, though | 09:45 |
| robin-hero | it also means minus 1.2 - 1.5 s | 09:46 |
| robin-hero | installed mapplauncherd, and I got the following values: Dialer App 2.6s -> 2.1s, Messaging App: 3.7s -> 3.2s, System Settings: 2.8 -> 2.2s | 10:00 |
| robin-hero | so it means about 0.5s with every app | 10:01 |
| flux__ | robin-hero, nice! my sdl apps loads in 0.3 sec i wonder what will be the load time in the future :D | 10:07 |
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| tathhu | äh, should bluetooth work on a nexus 7? (lte one) | 10:21 |
| zzarr | hello! will XMir be implemented in OTA-9? | 11:06 |
| tathhu | also, logitech k480 doesn't connect out of the box :( (on e5 as bt doesn't seem to work on nexus) | 11:28 |
| zzarr | tathhu, can you connect your K480 to another Ubuntu device? | 11:31 |
| tathhu | zzarr, something running touch/unity 8 or just ubuntu? laptop maybe in a few hours | 11:35 |
| zzarr | tathhu, just Ubuntu, Ubuntu uses bluez no matter if it's a phone or computer | 11:36 |
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| robin-hero | tathhu, Ubuntu 15.10 and older releases and OTA 8.5 are using BlueZ 4, which is very outdated. Ubuntu 16.04 and OTA-9 will be arrive with BlueZ 5 with a lot of goodies :D | 11:51 |
| tathhu | brb changing to rc-proposed :P | 11:52 |
| tathhu | but seriouslh, should bt even work on nexus 7? :( | 11:53 |
| tathhu | rip md | 11:53 |
| tathhu | ... | 11:53 |
| robin-hero | I don't have a Nexus 7, so don't know, it works well on Nexus 4 | 11:56 |
| tathhu | ähhh. | 11:56 |
| andywork | i have ubuntu touch running in the ubuntu-emulator - can I assign more cpu-cores somehow? | 13:25 |
| k1l | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygBP7MtT3Ac need more power? :) | 13:27 |
| andywork | exactly ;) | 13:28 |
| andywork | it's up and running but I am on a mid-range i5 m laptop | 13:29 |
| andywork | i can stream a 720p youtube clip simultaneously in the background, which suggest that there is a huge pile of power i could use for the emulator | 13:32 |
| andywork | anyway, I have a nexus 4 being shipped for me at the moment, so i guess i could be patient for a while | 14:00 |
| andywork | now lets hope the old man I purchased it from didn't scratch the display too much... | 14:01 |
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| zzarr | hello! will XMir be implemented in OTA-9? | 14:37 |
| zzarr | or is that a future update? | 14:37 |
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| mterry | kenvandine, re: mouse schema -- did the design spec specifically allow middle mouse button as a primary button? | 15:23 |
| mterry | kenvandine, USC only supports setting left or right | 15:23 |
| V99_ | hi! | 15:32 |
| kenvandine | mterry, no, but i wanted to include it in that enum just in case we ever wanted to | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | mterry, the UI doesn't allow it | 15:38 |
| mterry | kenvandine, yah but it being there means that u8 (as the intermediary) can't properly proxy the setting from gsettings to USC | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | oh, ok | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | i can remove it from the enum :) | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | i doubt we'll ever need it, but i was trying to be future proof | 15:39 |
| mterry | kenvandine, I also wonder... What about the split greeter case? What do we do on desktop in the greeter? Just always use default settings? | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | i think so | 15:40 |
| mterry | kenvandine, because on the phone if we have a split greeter during the first login for an encrypted home... I think the user would expect that the mouse would act the same as every other login | 15:40 |
| kenvandine | we need these to be user specific | 15:40 |
| mterry | kenvandine, oh for sure | 15:40 |
| mterry | kenvandine, but I was wondering if storing in AccountsService made sense | 15:40 |
| mterry | kenvandine, but that mostly makes sense for the single-user-split-greeter case | 15:41 |
| mterry | kenvandine, in multi user... not like you want the mouse to change settings as you change users | 15:41 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:41 |
| mterry | kenvandine, but still. Storing in AS would let us fix the issue for that one case (where we can detect we are one user) | 15:42 |
| mterry | kenvandine, otherwise we'd have to just accept the bug | 15:42 |
| mterry | kenvandine, because we can't even hackily proxy the setting to the greeter, since the user's home is encrypted and unreadable | 15:42 |
| mterry | kenvandine, I guess it's not just input settings | 15:43 |
| mterry | kenvandine, auto dim settings and all those others | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | yeah, lots of things | 15:43 |
| mterry | volume | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | i'm not opposed to AS | 15:43 |
| mterry | kenvandine, but at the same time, some of those are long-standing bugs that they act differently in greeter | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | if you'd rather do that, i can update my system-settings branch accordingly | 15:44 |
| mterry | kenvandine, I know there was a years-old bug that greeter volume should carry through into user | 15:44 |
| mterry | kenvandine, I dunno which makes more sense. I guess there's no downsides to AS. But mentally I'm very used to gsettings being where we put stuff like this | 15:45 |
| flux__ | when 16.04 on phones? i'm sick and tired of 15.04 | 15:55 |
| flux__ | devel proposed is on 16.04 right? | 15:56 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: ping | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: we're trying to build a ubuntu touch rootfs for Plasma mobile here http://mobile.kci.pangea.pub:8080/job/img_phone_vivid_armhf/6/consoleFull with the config from here https://github.com/plasma-phone-packaging/live-config | 15:59 |
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| shadeslayer | ogra_: I just took the config options from ubuntu-touch from livecd-rootfs and added a few things ontop ( see customization ) | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: but the initramfs trigger still gets run, but doesn't run on the ubuntu touch builds | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | what do you reckon we're missing? | 16:00 |
| mardy | mpt: hi! I wonder if you would be able to suggest a title for the dialog mentioned in bug 1468599? | 16:10 |
| ubot5 | bug 1468599 in ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "[Online Accounts] Same Google account could be added repeatedly from System Settings-->Accounts" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1468599 | 16:10 |
| mardy | mpt: or, do you mind if I reassign the bug to you? | 16:11 |
| mpt | mardy, yes, please reassign to me | 16:19 |
| mpt | I’ll add it to the flow chart when adding the re-auth step | 16:20 |
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| Elleo | am I right in thinking there's some file in /etc/ that can be tweaked to get the nexus 7 to use portrait as it's default orientation? | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: yeah I modified the config a bit but its still not happy about the initramfs | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | So if you could advise, that'd be awesome | 17:48 |
| pmcgowan | Elleo, DeviceConfiguration.qml | 18:14 |
| pmcgowan | although I forget exactly where that is | 18:14 |
| Elleo | pmcgowan: great, thanks | 18:14 |
| pmcgowan | Elleo, somewhere in unity qml files | 18:15 |
| Elleo | pmcgowan: yep, got it, thanks | 18:16 |
| Elleo | does bluetooth work on flo? | 18:30 |
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| DarkKnightCZ | Hi, has anyone bought Ubuntu Phone from BQ inside EU? I'm having troubles understanding if i need to pay VAT or if it's already paid | 18:48 |
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| Elleo | DarkKnightCZ: VAT's already paid inside the EU | 21:07 |
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| tathhu | ayy, k480 works right on w/ bluez5 <3 | 21:50 |
| * tathhu needs now working bt on nexus 7 :P | 21:50 | |
| tathhu | #blamemicrosoft | 21:58 |
| tathhu | reflashed android and bt works there, daamn. | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | ogra_: ah, I figured it out btw | 22:42 |
| dobey | tathhu: bt on nexus5 would be nice | 22:56 |
| tathhu | :l | 22:56 |
| tathhu | also on 7 :P | 22:57 |
| tathhu | :( | 23:03 |
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