[00:00] <Noein1> i think i got ubuntu into the usb stick now i just restart my computer and set it to boot from usb first and i will just run them?
[00:00] <k1l> Noein1: yes
[00:00] <Noein1> thanks this is my first time trying ubuntu or any linux like system :P thanks for the help
[00:02] <limacharlie> Noein1, how did you put Ubuntu on the USB drive?
[00:03] <limacharlie> Noein1, and you copied it over from Windows?
[00:03] <Noein1> i used a program i downloaded that was specifically for this purpose
[00:03] <k1l> limacharlie: he used the official way linked on the ubuntu page. i think it uses pendrivelinux
[00:03] <Noein1> yes that :D
[00:04] <limacharlie> Noein1, outstanding, then you should be good to go!
[00:04] <Noein1> yep i will try it soon and hopefully it will work
[00:05] <dankan> Noein1: for UEFI PCs i prefer Rawrite32 for writing linux ISOs to USB, if you know how to clean and reformat the USB stick properly afterwards :P
[00:07] <dankan> Noein1: but if you used some other program just try to boot it, if it works ignore what i wrote
[00:08] <Noein1> I have almost no knowledge on anything like that i am just starting to explore.I dont even understand most of the anagrams that i see here,i hope that i will soon learn some stuff :)
[00:08] <k1l> Noein1: no problem. learning by doing. you made the first step
[00:10] <RNeville> I don't know what an "anagram" is - so Noein1 your ahead of me!
[00:14] <spotter> hey, wondering where systemd-nspawn is on my ubuntu 15.10 box?
[00:15] <spotter> The program 'systemd-nspawn' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[00:15] <spotter> sudo apt-get install systemd
[00:15] <spotter> except systemd is already installed
[00:16] <spotter> answer is systemd-container
[00:17] <k1l> spotter: is systemd-container installed?
[00:17] <k1l> ah
[00:17] <spotter> though the missing stuff is wrong obviously
[00:30] <technoweenie> i am running a live cd of ubuntu 15. I am trying to install google chrome. it installs in the software center after download, but when i try to lunch it using the "super key" it doesn't launch.
[00:30] <technoweenie> *launch
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[00:32] <technoweenie> am I talking to myself or is there no one monitoring the chat?
[00:32] <technoweenie> serka, are you answering me?
[00:32] <Serka> no entiendo
[00:32] <Serka> speak spanish?
[00:32] <technoweenie> if so I only know english
[00:33] <genii> !es
[00:33] <Serka> ok gracias
[00:33] <Serka> solo promocionaba mi canal .un saludo y perdonar las molestias
[00:33] <HackSmash> "super key"    what do u mean by that
[00:33] <technoweenie> the windows key
[00:34] <technoweenie> it is known as the "super key" in ubuntu
[00:34] <technoweenie> you hit the key and search your app. I find google chrome, but it doesn't launch when I click on it.
[00:34] <HackSmash> ok   gotcha ... super key    then type www in
[00:34] <HackSmash> what shows
[00:36] <HackSmash> the 'live cd' version is severly limited
[00:36] <technoweenie> hacksmash, firefox and "browser"
[00:36] <HackSmash> thoes are whats preinstalled ... installing more software is a bit beyond Live CD
[00:37] <technoweenie> I don't want to install it if I can't teach my family how to use it.
[00:37] <whoami__> hello
[00:37] <technoweenie> I installed xchat with no issues, hacksmash.
[00:38] <whoami__> help)
[00:38] <technoweenie> I wish I could help you whoami, I am new to ubuntu
[00:38] <w00tburger> can someone telk me how to grep a greater than symbol? apparently its beyond my comprehension
[00:38] <HackSmash> i 'think' it depends on RAM available ... chrome may take more than xchat
[00:38] <TommyC> w00tburger: escape it with '\'
[00:38] <llldino> w00tburger, Escape it using a backslash: \>
[00:39] <w00tburger> I had tried that- it didnt work
[00:39] <TommyC> w00tburger: Then quote it.
[00:39] <w00tburger> hmmm I wonder if its because I am user cmder, so its using its own version of grep
[00:39] <technoweenie> shouldn't the install come back with a error message, hacksmash?
[00:40] <w00tburger> I tried to quote it, slash it, and both
[00:40] <HackSmash> launch it from the Terminal window ... thats where it would show errors.
[00:40] <w00tburger> The system cannot find the file specified.
[00:40] <w00tburger> I am cat'ing a file into grep
[00:40] <HackSmash> Live CD is VERY RAM intensive
[00:40] <w00tburger> cat index.html | grep -i '\<form'
[00:41] <technoweenie> okay. Just to be clear, what is the command. I try just typing "google-chrome" from the term and only once did I see the chrome logo pop up in the task bar.
[00:41] <HackSmash> technoweenie, i wouldnt base your decision on chrome alone
[00:41] <llldino> w00tburger, You need to use double quotes, or bash will take the \ as literal
[00:42] <technoweenie> If we can't use the prime services on amazon, my family has no use for it.
[00:43] <HackSmash> technoweenie, if the family can figure out Windows... Ubuntu will be a breeze ... esp if you have figured how to install stuff already
[00:43] <w00tburger> haha, they know how to use the package manager?
[00:43] <technoweenie> this isn't my first go around with linux. back in the day I used suse
[00:43] <w00tburger> when they do it from command line- oh man, that is my dream family
[00:43] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: The ptoprietary browser name is " google-chrome-stable " .
[00:44] <w00tburger> anyone? why is grep being dumb
[00:44] <technoweenie> I will try that bashing-om
[00:44] <llldino> w00tburger, Rather, this should work: cat whatever | grep -i '> form'
[00:44] <llldino> w00tburger, With no backslash
[00:46] <technoweenie> hacksmash, bashing-om after typing "google-chrome-stable" in the term in tells me "created new window in existing browser session. I am using firefox at the moment.
[00:46] <Frank_Jameso> Hello, I just wanted to know if people could hear me
[00:46] <Frank_Jameso> well, read what I type anyways
[00:47] <technoweenie> frank_jameso, I see what you are typing.
[00:47]  * HackSmash puts an ear to the keyboard
[00:47] <Frank_Jameso> thanks very much. Ubuntu's still the best!
[00:47] <technoweenie> lol hacksmash
[00:47] <Frank_Jameso> hey, my keyboard is pretty loud
[00:47] <AndroUser2> Any ui Mode for unistall a program from command line?
[00:48] <Frank_Jameso> it should still show up in the app store if you used apt-get install
[00:48] <Frank_Jameso> and there's also the synaptic package manager, which you may have to install nowadays
[00:49] <Frank_Jameso> but either way, those only deal with the aptitude or apt-get commands, so if you installed it in a different way, those may not work.
[00:49] <AndroUser2> I've it but Just work in x
[00:49] <technoweenie> I hear mint is pretty user friendly?
[00:50] <melmiwaberi> linux mint unity yep!
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[00:53] <technoweenie> i went with ubuntu bc nsa recommended it on their website.
[00:53] <melmiwaberi> That's a spam!
[00:53] <melmiwaberi> I meant Serka
[00:53] <melmiwaberi> m8
[00:54] <technoweenie> thought i would check it out.
[00:54] <melmiwaberi> ubuntu's legit
[00:54] <melmiwaberi> m8
[00:55]  * HackSmash 's everyday laptop is ubuntu ...has been for about 2 years now
[00:55] <melmiwaberi> K nevermind...
[00:55] <cruzhm> Can anyone assist me with getting my wireless drivers working in Kubuntu on a Macbook Pro 11,1?
[00:57] <technoweenie> cruzhm, i hear if it doesn't work, start muching the keyboard.
[00:57] <technoweenie> *munching
[00:58] <cruzhm> I can get it to work when I sample the OS, it stops after I install it.
[00:58] <Pinkamena_D> any kind of software which would completely erase all disk changes on reboot, for deploying ubuntu in a computer lab?
[00:58] <pmow> Hello.   Was referred here with this question as it relates less to the process and more to processes.  I have a process that says "defunct".  But upon research, a kill doesn't work, and its parent process is init (pid 1).  Any idea how I might safely do that?   When I try and start the process manually, I get port in use, although a netstat doesn't show this pid as using the port (although it lists it).
[00:58] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: I had to wander away for a bit ... close all out ... so only a terminal is running . Now what results with terminal command ' google-chrome-stable ' ?
[00:58] <technoweenie> sounds like, you need to write your own driver for it.
[00:58] <pmow> Oh the process is mono, btw.
[00:59] <technoweenie> bashing-om, it says it created a new window in the browser.
[01:00] <technoweenie> there is no browser open
[01:00] <llldino> Pinkamena_D, Just make a bash script that nukes content in writable folders you don't want changed, and set it to run on reboot
[01:00] <caskaid> What is the preferred method of making xrandr changes persistent?
[01:00] <lerner> do you use luks or veracrypt to encrypt an external hdd?
[01:00] <technoweenie> why you rooting bashing-om?
[01:00] <Pinkamena_D> llldino: ok, ill try that...
[01:01] <pmow> lerner: I'm using the full disk encryption on 14.04lts
[01:01] <lerner> pmow, is that luks?
[01:02] <pmow> It didn't say, will research to properly answer...
[01:02] <Bashing-om> tech " why you rooting bashing-om?" I fail to understand .. please exemplify further ?
[01:03] <limacharlie> Is there still an Ubuntu Team for
[01:03] <limacharlie> whoops
[01:03] <technoweenie> you said you were typing directly to the kernal, right?
[01:03] <limacharlie> Is there still an Ubuntu Team for the Infrastructure? I see the Server team, but I think that's specific to Ubuntu Server.
[01:04] <technoweenie> that is called rooting the system. you are GOD at that point and can do anything with no restrictions.
[01:06] <pmow> lerner: it looks like dm-crypt, as /dev/mapper has a few volumes starting with dm-.  Although if LUKS is an extension, do you know if they'd also say dm-*?
[01:06] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: No, What i meant is from a terminal as a standard user type the terminal command ' google-chrome-stable ' .. which "should" launch google-chrome leaving the terminal window open and frozen and showing any errors that starting the browser generated .
[01:06] <lerner> pmow, no
[01:06] <lerner> i dont know
[01:06] <technoweenie> i will do it again
[01:07] <lerner> pmow, but, did you encrypt via cli or gui?
[01:07] <pmow> gui
[01:07] <pmow> honestly I'm dying to replace the box and I'm definitely leaving it off.  If I need it, it won't be on main disks...
[01:08] <daemonmontero1> anyone know the repository for upgrading ubuntu?
[01:08] <technoweenie> "created new window in existing browser session," bashing-om
[01:09] <pmow> box is in a colo and I wish I hadn't enabled it honestly.  It'd be nice to reboot the box without ordering a KVM in advance!
[01:09] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Lemme back out of my google-chrome .. see what results when I start from terminal ..
[01:09] <lerner> pmow, whats the name of the program?
[01:09] <pmow> mono
[01:09] <technoweenie> ok bashing-om.
[01:10] <pmow> lerner: so a ps -ef gets me a parent pid of 1 =(
[01:10] <lerner> a program named "mono" will encrypt a hdd?
[01:11] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: You have a problem .. I just did as advised ... no problem at all to start google-chrome in the GUI . Are you running out of memory ? what results ' free -m ' ? when you have attempted to start google-chrome .
[01:12] <pmow> lerner: I thought you meant the process that I'm trying to nuke.  I don't know for sure, but did my GUI answer indicate anything?
[01:12] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: if you have google-chome open, and try to open it from another terminal, do you get the same message as technoweenie?
[01:13] <lerner> pmow, I dont know what application you used to encrypt
[01:13] <pmow> lerner: the 14.04 LTS boot CD
[01:13] <technoweenie> 322 free bashing-om
[01:14] <zykotick9> lerner: i _think_ if they used GUI, the encryption is "home folder encryption" i forget what that's called (it's NOT luks)
[01:14] <pmow> lerner: I'm trying to find the answer but not much help online.  There isn't a "status" switch I've found yet
[01:15] <pmow> ./dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:15] <technoweenie> bashing-om, why can i use firefox, watch videos online and so on?
[01:17] <pmow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto seems to indicate it's dm_crypt, but http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/39306/how-secure-is-ubuntus-default-full-disk-encryption says it's dm-crypt with LUKS
[01:17] <technoweenie> I have a feeling if things aren't in the app store of ubuntu, you are S.O.L. unless you know how to hack.
[01:19] <technoweenie> I would use suse, but that os iso will not right to a dvd in windows, though there is enough space on the disk.
[01:20] <pmow> managed to figure out the proper name but `sudo cryptsetup status ubuntu--vg-root`finishes and returns....nothing
[01:20] <technoweenie> windows requires too much room for the index space on the disk.
[01:20] <technoweenie> *write
[01:21] <dotpixis> how do you use wild cards and rm?
[01:22] <KiLLex> Hi all
[01:23] <pmow> lerner: is there any conclusion to this question?  I cannot locate any discussions or articles about an issue with dm+LUKS and defunct processes.
[01:23] <yumbox> how do I disable password prompts?
[01:23] <dotpixis> yumbox: why would you want to do that?
[01:23] <lerner> pmow, im sorry, I dont remember my original question anymore
[01:24] <technoweenie> isn't the command to dump your ram "dump -m" in the term?
[01:24] <pmow> lerner: you asked what type of encryption I was using
[01:24] <yumbox> dotpixis: because i dont want to type my pw all the time
[01:24] <lerner> im not feeling well, ill talk to you later pmow
[01:25] <pmow> lerner: feel better
[01:25] <zykotick9> dotpixis: wild cards like *?  they work with rm by default?  "rm *" <- be careful!  DANGER
[01:25] <llldino> yumbox, In regards to what? Using sudo or logging into your computer?
[01:26] <yumbox> llldino: using synaptic
[01:26] <dotpixis> yumbox: then learn to type faster, or setup a key system... or then set the time that you're given admin rights to 10 minutes; but it's not suggested that you turn off password prompts, see sudoers
[01:26] <dotpixis> zykotick9: ty
[01:27] <yumbox> dotpixis: i can type fast. it's just an annoyance I want to get rid of.
[01:27] <llldino> yumbox, You can add yourself to the group 'root' and that will more or less enable your user account to have unbarred access to everything in your computer
[01:27] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: DRM and Adobe Flash that FireFox can not get around ... Goggle-chrome does .. can even run NetFlix in google . Different form of Flash .
[01:27] <yumbox> llldino: that's not what I want though
[01:28] <dotpixis> is it safe to rm *old_versions in the /boot folder?
[01:28] <zykotick9> dotpixis: you should use the package manager to uninstall that stuff!
[01:28] <dotpixis> zykotick9: why?
[01:28] <xangua> Bashing-om: can't Firefox already run Netflix in Linux?
[01:29] <yumbox> I've already set sudoers to NOPASSWD. I want to disable graphical password prompts.
[01:29] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: " and try to open it from another terminal " lemme try and see what results .
[01:29] <technoweenie> bashing-om if I install ubuntu, you think this issue will go away?
[01:29] <llldino> yumbox, Synaptics needs access to files that only root can write to, therefore you need to become root (using gksu and entering your password at the prompt) or give your user account root permissions
[01:29] <zykotick9> dotpixis: because...
[01:29] <technoweenie> I kinda like a live disk. if someone loads malicious code, I don't have to worry about it.
[01:30] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: I can only give you my experience . I run google-chrome-stable with absolutly no problem .
[01:30] <Loshki> dotpixis: the wild cards are expanded by the shell before rm ever sees them. So to really understand what you're doing, you're gonna have to review bash wildcarding as well as rm's particular quirks.
[01:30] <llldino> I suppose you can give your user account permission to write and read all the files that synaptic needs but that's messy and dumb
[01:30] <dotpixis> Loshki: ty for the advice, will do
[01:30] <yumbox> llldino: yeah, I get that, but with sudo, I can just add NOPASSWD to sudoers. Why can't the same work for gksu or whatever synaptic uses.
[01:30] <acovrig> I have a strange networking issue in ubutnu 14.04: I get the 'waiting 60s for network' on boot, but nothing is DHCP: this is my /etc/network/interfaces: https://gist.github.com/acovrig/062dcc728fa67e726bb0
[01:30] <technoweenie> "All I have to do is escape the system."
[01:31] <dotpixis> zykotick9: also i would use a package manager but my package manager isn't playing nice, so terminal it is...
[01:32] <yumbox> oh, I think I found it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/383747/how-to-configure-pkexec-to-not-ask-for-password
[01:32] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: technoweenie No problem for me to start multiple instances of google-chrome - in seperate terminals .
[01:32] <dotpixis> yumbox: don't do it
[01:32] <dotpixis> yumbox: passwords are good
[01:32] <yumbox> dotpixis: no, they're not.
[01:32] <dotpixis> it's good to be prompted before you do something
[01:33] <yumbox> dotpixis: im the only user of my pc.
[01:33] <dotpixis> yumbox: do you use the internet?
[01:33] <yumbox> yup
[01:33] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: BUT, do you get that "created new window in existing browser session" message?
[01:33] <llldino> dotpixis, It's his build he has the right to do with it what he wants. That's what makes *nix finger lickin' good
[01:33] <dotpixis> yumbox: do you ssh?
[01:33] <technoweenie> ok bashing. just means I need to learn more about basking the keys before i commit to another os.
[01:33] <yumbox> dotpixis: yup.
[01:33] <dotpixis> yumbox: do you have keys for ssh?
[01:33] <technoweenie> *bashing the keys
[01:34] <yumbox> dotpixis: yup.
[01:34] <dotpixis> it's your machiene, if you want to live on the wild side i can't stop you, but don't say that you weren't warned
[01:35] <zykotick9> dotpixis: that's the way i feel about your manually deleting packaged stuff from /boot ;)
[01:35] <Guest23161> hello I am using Xubuntu and my screen turns off every 10 minutes and I don't find the setting not to turn my screen off. (it's not my screen)
[01:35] <yumbox> dotpixis: https://xkcd.com/1200/
[01:35] <yumbox> like I could give a **** if someone installs drivers
[01:36] <llldino> yumbox, It's not quite that generalized, but okay then
[01:37] <dotpixis> yumbox: but i have my web sessions auto killed, and i don't keep any cookies after the session is killed
[01:37] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Yepper " sysop@1404mini:~$ google-chrome-stable >> Created new window in existing browser session. " I do have 2 complete instances of chrome running .
[01:37] <yumbox> dotpixis: me neither
[01:37] <dotpixis> so someone could steal my laptop and they would have a hell of a time trying to do anything; ps the bios is locked
[01:38] <yumbox> bios lock means nothing
[01:38] <acovrig> also, all physical networking on eth1 and eth2 die when I start a specific VM using br0...
[01:38] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: it sounded like chrome was running for technoweenie and everytime they re-ran it, it just opened another tab - that i assume they aren't seeing for some reason...
[01:38] <luketheduke0> dotpixis, all they have to do is take the bios battery out & the bios would be wiped
[01:38] <yumbox> luketheduke0: uh, no.
[01:39] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: No better way to learn that do it . Includes the tykes also . Linux, when they break it -- we get to keep the pieces -- and put it back together .,
[01:39] <technoweenie> where is it running?
[01:39] <dotpixis> you have to flash the bios, to whipe it, most of the time they're things to do that, but all that battery does is keep the internal clock powered...
[01:40] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Could be ... and I have my chrome install configured to open new instances as a new window (??) .
[01:41] <yumbox> dotpixis: closer, but also no.
[01:42] <technoweenie> it's not on either one of my screens running?
[01:43] <technoweenie> I might be a tyke, but I expected more out of you guys. lol
[01:44] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: You do have a desktop activated, no ? as it must run in a GUI .
[01:44] <Muimi> So, when I boot into ubuntu 15.10, I type in the password, and then the password stuff  disappears for a few moments, then the screen turns black, then the password stuff pops back up
[01:44] <technoweenie> yes. i am in a GUI? which one I couldn't tell you?
[01:44] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: The tykes was in reference to the rest of your family running 'buntu :)
[01:45] <technoweenie> LOL
[01:45] <Muimi> are there any custom install parameters I should be running if I have an nvidia 7300 LE video card?
[01:45] <Muimi> I didn't get any errors when installing the OS
[01:45] <Guest23161> I fixed it by typing " xset s off " into the terminal
[01:46] <zykotick9> Muimi: did it ever work?
[01:47] <Muimi> well, I think I made several mistakes, this time....
[01:47] <Muimi> No, it never worked.  I think I installed a video driver for 14.04....
[01:47] <Muimi> And then I think I removed it in the wrong way before installing the 15.10 driver.
[01:47] <dotpixis> just got this when going on random on xkcd http://tinypic.com/r/343t8wi/9
[01:47] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: All I can suggest is that Google-chrome-stable failed to install properly . You did install google-chrome-stable ? There are a few chrome releases . Some are "testing" .
[01:48] <zykotick9> Muimi: try opening a console (ctrl+alt+f1) and "ls -l ~/.Xauthority" does it say root anywhere on that line?
[01:48] <technoweenie> " I put the lotion on my skin, It does what it is told!"
[01:48] <Muimi> hold on
[01:49] <technoweenie> translation, I did as google instructed me.
[01:50] <zykotick9> Muimi: alt+f7 to return by the way
[01:50] <Muimi> nope.
[01:51] <zykotick9> Muimi: ok, just checkin'.  good luck.
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Muimi: I am not familiar with nvidia 7300 LE. If ya pastbnin ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA " I will see what I can do about verifying the correct driver version .
[01:52] <technoweenie> I am going to go get me a glass of formaldehyde.
[01:52] <technoweenie> Some thermite while I am at it!
[01:52] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: K ... I go do lung therapy .
[01:52] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: hehe, the whole point of "grep -i" is you don't have to be case sensitive ;)  so ".. grep -i vga" works fine.
[01:53] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: Uh Huh .. old habit, :)
[01:54] <acovrig> OK, I rebooted and 'waiting for network' seems to have been fixed, but when I start my VM, all physical network dies...
[01:56] <technoweenie> lol
[02:03] <Bashing-om> !pastebinit | Muimi
[02:04] <technoweenie> I am installing ubuntu on my system and will see if it improves after installation to the had disk. talk to you later Bashing-om
[02:04] <ucarion> Hi all, I'm getting some weird behavior with the terminal -- when I maximize it, the top of the screen is laggy; it takes awhile for it to update after I press keys
[02:05] <ucarion> This doesn't seem to happen anywhere else on the screen, just the first couple lines
[02:05] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: ^^ spoken like a true trooper . We are here , we do for you the best we can .
[02:06] <technoweenie> ok issue!
[02:07] <technoweenie> ubuntu says that my whole hard drive is taken up by partitions. I am only aware of possibly two, but it reports 5 different partitions.
[02:08] <technoweenie> Not sure witch one to use and witch ones to avoid.
[02:10] <technoweenie> I loved suse yast installer. it told you more information about the partitions on the disk
[02:10] <phi__> hello
[02:10] <phi__> anyone can help me regiser https://evilzone.org/register2/
[02:10] <phi__> ?
[02:11] <grut> after I upgraded my bios I am entering linux mint 17, it shows enter passphrase, entered but cursor only blinking
[02:12] <technoweenie> I don't want to wipe out windows, because I want to be able to sell the pc without having to buy a windows license.
[02:12] <grut> I am entering password correctly
[02:12] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: MBR partitioning ? A limit of 4 primary partitions . Dual booting and Windows' has them all ? show us the partitioning ' sudo fdisk -lu ; parted -l " . We llok and see where th problem is .
[02:12] <xangua> grut: wrong channel
[02:13] <grut> xangua, there are no mint channels
[02:13] <zykotick9> !mint | grut
[02:13] <xangua> ! Mint | grut
[02:13] <technoweenie> ok NO ONE TYPE! lol
[02:14] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: my XX:12 entry count ?
[02:14] <technoweenie> Device         Start       End   Sectors   Size Type
[02:14] <technoweenie> /dev/sda1       2048   2050047   2048000  1000M Windows recovery environment
[02:14] <technoweenie> /dev/sda2    2050048   2582527    532480   260M EFI System
[02:14] <technoweenie> /dev/sda3    2582528   3606527   1024000   500M unknown
[02:14] <technoweenie> /dev/sda4    3606528   3868671    262144   128M Microsoft reserved
[02:14] <technoweenie> /dev/sda5    3868672 925573119 921704448 439.5G Microsoft basic data
[02:14] <Bashing-om> !paste | technoweenie
[02:15] <technoweenie> ok. my bad
[02:16] <LostSoul_> Hi
[02:16] <Mdxxx> hello
[02:16] <Carter1> hi
[02:16] <LostSoul_> Quick question, I removed and reintalled vim, nvm about this story but I want to know about setting default editor
[02:16] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Looks like Windows is installed in UEFI mode . Got to install ubuntu in UEFI also . In GPT partitioning we do not have the 4 primary partition limit .
[02:17] <LostSoul_> I did this:
[02:17] <LostSoul_> update-alternatives --config editor
[02:17] <LostSoul_> and selected vim, but still crontab didn't lunch vim, but nano
[02:17] <LostSoul_> I edited $EDITOR and it worked
[02:18] <LostSoul_> I also tried "select-editor" and it had selected nano, so I changed to vim
[02:18] <LostSoul_> Tell me what's the difference between update-alternatives and select-editor?
[02:18] <technoweenie> I don't want to install over windows Bashing-om. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14587249/
[02:18] <ucarion> LostSoul_: Have you set $EDITOR?
[02:19] <Muimi> I'm on a different pc, Bashing-om
[02:19] <LostSoul_> ucarion: I did
[02:19] <LostSoul_> But tell me why update-alternatives didn't make it?
[02:20] <LostSoul_> Also after changing EDITOR, 'select-editor' still had seleced nano, why? :)
[02:20] <zykotick9> LostSoul_: selected-editor just creates a .selected_editor file in ~ <- i'm not sure what uses it though...  the update-alternatives is a system wide setting for the debian-based alternates system.
[02:20] <Muimi> I just thought there may be some safe method for installing ubuntu with an nvidia card.
[02:20] <Muimi> And then install the video card driver AFTER the installation is complete
[02:20] <LostSoul_> zykotick9: But should update-alternative work in this case?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Yeah ... Mind ya ... I am not in the least Windows Literate . But I do expect that in booting the installer in UEFI mode that you have the easy option " install ubuntu along side" . If ya want to take the default install .
[02:21] <zykotick9> LostSoul_: personally, i'd think so... but obviously you have different result... i can't explain why.
[02:21] <lessless> hey guys, I had a two versions of postgresql - 9.5 and 9.4 and I removed 9.5 but pg_config --version still shows it
[02:21] <lessless> how to completely get rid of it
[02:22] <lessless> and tell system that I want only 9.4 and no other versions should be ever installed
[02:22] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Muimi
[02:22] <technoweenie> yes, I got that option, Bashing-om. It is asking what partition to divide.
[02:22] <zykotick9> LostSoul_: ok, so crontab obviously does NOT use alternatives, but that selected-editor thing!  so it's cron specific.
[02:22] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Ouch . Me no lnow zykotick9 ???
[02:23] <Bashing-om> know*
[02:23] <Muimi> I don't know if I need to reformat the PC or not, but
[02:23] <Muimi> Wow, there's a new planet?
[02:23] <mustmodify_> I'm on a windows machine sitting right next to an ubuntu machine. I have 3 SSH sessions open. All three have ... stalled? But they haven't timeout yet. The ubuntu machine is fine.  load is 0.05, 0.26, 0.24... what might be happening?
[02:24] <mustmodify_> the windows machine is fine, and no apparent network problems.
[02:24] <mustmodify_> Since I'm posting this. :)
[02:24] <technoweenie> This isn't windows support. Try technet.microsoft.com mustmodify_
[02:25] <mustmodify_> techiewickie: hm... I don't think it's the winsows machine. :)
[02:25] <mustmodify_> but I hear you.
[02:26] <technoweenie> Mustmodify_ you are floating.
[02:26] <mustmodify_> floating?
[02:26] <technoweenie> it's a quote from a movie
[02:27] <mustmodify_> pinged it. got two "destination host unreachable" and one success.
[02:27] <mustmodify_> So that's weird.
[02:27] <technoweenie> sounds like you are having network issues.
[02:27] <technoweenie> contact your isp
[02:28] <mustmodify_> man you guys blame everyone but Ubuntu. :)
[02:28] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: I have not touched Windows in years, we will have to await others here who have the dual boot experience, in the meantime ->
[02:28] <technoweenie> there are windows support irc chats.
[02:28] <LostSoul_> zykotick9: LOL, thanks :)
[02:28] <technoweenie> Sounds good.
[02:28] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | technoweenie
[02:29] <technoweenie> I will take a look at that. Thanks Bashing-om
[02:34] <lessless> how to lock version of postgresql so no other versions would be installed?
[02:35] <Bashing-om> !pin lessless
[02:36] <user23456789> can someone tell me how to install a VPN on Ubuntu_
[02:36] <user23456789> ?
[02:38] <LostSoul_> zykotick9: Ok on first run:
[02:38] <LostSoul_> crontab -e
[02:38] <LostSoul_> Select an editor.  To change later, run 'select-editor'.
[02:38] <LostSoul_> :)
[02:39] <zykotick9> LostSoul_: oh sorry, i "could" have mentioned that...
[02:39] <LostSoul_> :P
[02:39] <LostSoul_> Chill, thanks for help :)
[02:39] <LostSoul_> Love this community :)
[02:44] <Muimi> It's probably safest just to install 14.04 on this sytem instaed of trying to get a driver for 15.10, right?
[02:45] <Shutem_Down> Can I format an external hard drive if it's unmounted?
[02:45] <Muimi> I just wonder if I shouldn't add the nouvea modeset=0 switch to the install
[02:46] <zykotick9> Shutem_Down: it SHOULD/HAS TO BE PERHAPS unmounted to format it...
[02:46] <Shutem_Down> oh.  ok cool
[02:46] <Shutem_Down> Because I can't access it mounted
[02:46] <Shutem_Down> so perhaps  this could work
[02:46] <Shutem_Down> lol
[02:47] <zykotick9> Shutem_Down: ahhh, perhaps you should supply a more detail account of what you are doing, and what isn't working...
[02:48] <user23456789> Can someone help me?
[02:48] <CalebW> I'm trying to compile a package and it says that libavutil/frame.h is missing
[02:48] <zykotick9> !ask | user23456789
[02:48] <CalebW> What package is that in?
[02:48] <Shutem_Down> On a windows computer, the drive rarely even shows up.  On linux it will show up, and the files are listed but I cannot copy them at more than a few kbps.
[02:49] <user23456789> Ok perfect sorry
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Muimi: All this just to install a driver ? What happens when you boot in "recoery" mode ?
[02:50] <Shutem_Down> So perhaps a umount fdsk is more appropriate.
[02:50] <Shutem_Down> errr, i mean checkdisk...whatever the linux equivalent is
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: For check disk, what is the file system ? Windows tools for Windows file system .
[02:51] <CalebW> I've installed libavutil-dev...so why is the frame.h file missing?
[02:53] <Shutem_Down> Bashing-om, hang on, it's very slow to respond to even a properties request
[02:53] <eelstrebor> i changed the dnscrypt local address port and the proxying in the logs was ok but dns still would not work - it only works with port 53 - any ideas as to what the problem is?
[02:53] <karstensrage> can anyone help me understand or point me to something that explains some of this http://pastebin.com/rAPzJmLz
[02:54] <user23456789> How can I install a VPN on Ubuntu_
[02:54] <user23456789> ?
[02:54] <eelstrebor> user23456789, yes
[02:54] <Noein1> ubuntu is running perfectly when booted from usb directly without being installed to the hard disk thanks for the tips on how to do that ^_^
[02:55] <eelstrebor> googling for my dnscrypt problem doesn't result in a solution
[02:56] <eelstrebor> user23456789, oops - you need to start with installing openvpn package
[02:56] <user23456789> Nice, I already did that. I havent been able to go through the next step
[02:57] <eelstrebor> user23456789, you need to create a certificate authority and then create certificates and keys
[02:57] <MannyLNJ> Why can I ssh to elevy.noip.me from my local lan but not from the outside?
[02:57] <Shutem_Down> Bashing-om, sorry, what is the command for checking the filesystem?
[02:57] <user23456789> how do I do that?
[02:57] <eelstrebor> user23456789, do you plan to run your own VPN service?
[02:58] <user23456789> No, I was hoping to use a free VPN service.
[02:58] <eelstrebor> user23456789, it'll be easier if you find an openvpn wiki that'll teach you how to setup everything
[02:58] <user23456789> Let me check it up
[02:59] <eelstrebor> user23456789, if you've already signed up with a VPN service they should be able to help you get things set up
[02:59] <Noein1> #help
[03:00] <eelstrebor> user23456789, there's also a chat room for openvpn also
[03:00] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: A linux file system or a Windows file susyem ?
[03:01]  * eelstrebor wishes there was a dedicated irc channel for dnscyrpt
[03:01] <user23456789> for real? How can I access to it?
[03:01] <Shutem_Down> i'm on ubuntu...id like the command to find out if my external drive is on ntfs or fat32 so I can answer your question
[03:01] <eelstrebor> user23456789, /join #openvpn
[03:01] <user23456789> I type that as a message?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Sure, ' sudo fdisk -lu ' will tell .
[03:02] <eelstrebor> nope - just type it as if you're going to send an ordinary message
[03:03] <eelstrebor> when you press enter you should be in the channel
[03:03] <user23456789> its seems it didnt work
[03:03] <user23456789> #openvpn
[03:03] <eelstrebor> don't forget the /join
[03:04] <user23456789> yes, I put /join #openvpn and nothing happen; nothing poped or appear. It seems Im still on the same channel
[03:05] <wadadli> How can I instlal oracle java 8
[03:05] <wadadli> and replace openjdk in ubuntu completely
[03:06] <wadadli> I removed the package already for openjdk but when I do java -version
[03:06] <wadadli> I get output
[03:06] <wadadli> openjdk version "1.8.0_66-internal"
[03:06] <wadadli> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_66-internal-b17)
[03:06] <wadadli> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.66-b17, mixed mode)
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> Shutem_Down: if you know the /dev/sd* of the partition, you can also sudo file -s -L /dev/sd*
[03:06] <Guest72380> exit
[03:06] <Guest72380> oops
[03:06] <Shutem_Down> I dont actually and these results are confusing the hell out of me
[03:07] <Shutem_Down> you want a pastebin or rather me sort it out?
[03:07] <llldino> wadadli, Do 'dpkg -l | grep openj*'
[03:07] <Mixon> hi
[03:08] <Shutem_Down> I have sdb and sdb1
[03:08] <Shutem_Down> and one result says "dos" and the other result says "hpfs,ntfs, and fat"
[03:11] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Pastebin ' sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit " and we will be glad to dicusss the results so you understand what are looking at .
[03:11] <geekyaditya> How to disable amazon search in dash
[03:11] <shinobi> ping
[03:12] <Shutem_Down> Bashing-om, thanks for your patience i'm going to grab a chair
[03:12] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: NP ... All it takes is time and effort .
[03:13] <kevin_> Does anybody know anything about PAMusb
[03:16] <Mixon> does anyone know how to install kismet on beini usb distro please?
[03:19] <sheepgeek> hello?
[03:19] <Mneuro> hi
[03:19] <sheepgeek> what a good firewall for xubuntu ?
[03:19] <zzxc> sheepgeek: Hi, hows it going?
[03:20] <Shutem_Down> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/VqAbk1NP
[03:20] <sheepgeek> what a good firewall for xubuntu ?
[03:20] <sheepgeek> zzxc
[03:20] <Mneuro> I'm not sure, i don't use firewalls
[03:20] <somsip> !info ufw | sheepgeek
[03:20] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Look'n ,
[03:21] <sheepgeek> Thank you
[03:21] <zzxc> sheepgeek: Depends on what you are doing with it.
[03:22] <sheepgeek> just protecting myself period
[03:26] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Well, the 1.8 hard drive has 1 partition on it ... and it is formatted for Windows .
[03:27] <Shutem_Down> Can I still use linux to try to detect and repair errors?
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: The lubux tools to deal with MS proprietary file sustem is primitive, to say the least . Yse Windows tools . Have a good read : https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/100108 .
[03:29] <Bashing-om> libux/linux*
[03:34] <daemonmontero1> anyone  know how to fix my audio problem?
[03:34] <MannyLNJ> Question. I have two subnets on my lan 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x how can I bridge both networks with my ubuntu system?
[03:34] <eelstrebor> user23456789, i don't know why you can't get into the channel, i'm in it right now
[03:37] <Shutem_Down> Bashing-om, thanks for your help.  Any thoughts on the effectiveness of the badblocks command?  If I have to troubleshoot this in Windows, then my only option is to reformat.
[03:39] <user23456789> what is the PIA Username when installing OpenVPN?
[03:40] <MannyLNJ> when I do  cp -R /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0* /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa I get cp: cannot stat ‘/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0*’: No such file or directory
[03:40] <MannyLNJ>  but I did apt-get install openvpn
[03:41] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Linux does not understand Windows file systems to that depth. If you have no access to a Windows machine - you are behind the 8 ball ib working a windows file system from linux .
[03:42] <Shutem_Down> Bashing-om, well that's as clear as it gets.  Thank you for your time.
[03:42] <MannyLNJ> Shutem_Down, I'm late to the party but what's your problem?
[03:43] <user23456789> Correct me if Im wrong. The PIA is the private internet access, so  I gotta pay to enter this PIA?, its not free?
[03:43] <Shutem_Down> Can only access the external drive from linux....even though it's on a windows filesytem
[03:43] <user23456789> How can I get a quality free VPN?
[03:44] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Now that said, there has been "some" progress in linux able to make "some" repair to Windows' file systems , But it is iffy !
[03:45] <MannyLNJ> Shutem_Down, what about Virtualbox with a windows image? and mount the drive to a virtualbox system? Microsoft has trial images
[03:45] <Shutem_Down> I have a windows computer, thats not an issue.  When I use the drive on a windows machine it doesn't work.  Or it will work for maybe a split second....all the while the drive will be whirring and whirring as if it's working.
[03:46] <Shutem_Down> Its only when I use linux that it will remain mounted for me to even peer inside.
[03:47] <Shutem_Down> I dont think I could format in windows even if I wanted to, because any attempt to access the drive results in freezing.
[03:48] <Bashing-om> !info ntfsprogs trusty
[03:49] <MannyLNJ> Shutem_Down, you should be able to use DD to make it into an image though and work on that
[03:49] <Bashing-om> !info ntfs-3g trusty
[03:51] <Shutem_Down> Making an image of  the disk seems improbable because I cannot read/copy files from the drive at reasonable rate
[03:52] <Shutem_Down> copy an mp3 from the external drive to my hard drive is perhaps a 15 minute process
[03:53] <Bashing-om> Shutem_Down: Maybe, have a look : http://askubuntu.com/questions/313872/ubuntu-13-04-is-unable-to-mount-a-disk-drive-from-ex-windows-system , The package now is " ntfs-3g " .
[03:54] <Shutem_Down> Oh, I just remembered the more obvious problem.  The external drive is too big to create an image of.  It's 1.8 TB, I dont have a HD that big. lol
[03:54] <Shutem_Down> reading Bashing-om
[03:54] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, any chance I could get you to help me with an OpenVPN config problem?
[03:56] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: I am not a good one to assist in any VPN issue . Others here are much better qualified .
[03:56] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, acceptable answer. I've asked in #openvpn to no avail grasping at straws now
[03:58] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: If you have waited in #openvpn for a while and have no response, after a period of time it is acceptable to ask here with a specific question . Someone here on the channel may know .
[03:59] <MannyLNJ> when I do  cp -R /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0* /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa I get cp: cannot stat ‘/usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0*’: No such file or directory   but I did do apt-get openvpn so why are there no config files to copy
[04:01] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Says the file does not exist . Do you see it with ' ls -al /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/  ' ?
[04:01] <xylon> hi
[04:01] <xylon> im newbie =)
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Zytho: We all were at one time . What is your ubuntu issue ?
[04:02] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, no. In examples I only see sample-config-files  sample-keys  sample-scripts
[04:04] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Ouch .. some script failed to run to copy the files into the easy-rsa/ directory ...lemme see what I can find for the origin of the files .
[04:05] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, thanks
[04:06] <gswebspace> any suggestions on tools/IDE required for developing a desktop app on ubuntu with openGL or similar drawing canvas ? need to display bunch of 3D lines.
[04:07] <technoweenie> Say, who wants a laugh?
[04:08] <llldino> gswebspace, GDK+?
[04:08] <technoweenie> I got a support chat with microsoft that is do die for!
[04:08] <xangua> ! Ot | technoweenie
[04:09] <technoweenie> okay.
[04:12] <gswebspace> llldino: thanks
[04:12] <llldino> gswebspace, My pleasure
[04:14] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: What release are you on .. and what returns ' dpkg -l easy-rsa ' ?
[04:16] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, how do I check the release? I know I'm in the 14 branch and LTS
[04:18] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: ' lsb_release -a ' .
[04:18] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, and http://pastebin.com/pXApsAkn for the output of the dpkg command
[04:19] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, 14.04 is the release
[04:20] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om,  Description:    Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[04:20] <MannyLNJ>   Release:        14.04
[04:21] <Muimi> can anyone tell me what the default blacklist.conf file has on its last line in 15.10?
[04:23] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: OK, I was think'm mabe you werefollowing old documentation , But so far so good . Do you have this file ' ls -al /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/openssl.cnf ' ?
[04:24] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I don';t think so ... ls: cannot access /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/openssl.cnf: No such file or directory
[04:30] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: OK, Seems that was in 12.04 to make up the symlink ..Presently, did you export keys AND source vars ?
[04:33] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, Negative.
[04:34] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: See : http://www.slsmk.com/getting-started-with-openvpn/installing-openvpn-on-ubuntu-server-12-04-or-14-04-using-tun/ . Maybe in you need to export and source to build the /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0 directory ???
[04:35] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, thank you. will read tomorrow
[04:36] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: K, it do seem reasonable to me .
[04:48] <LrdHelmet> how can i determine which kernel is the server version I need? I installed the generic one, not realizing it wasn't for servers
[04:49] <LrdHelmet> i want 3.13.0-24, that is 64 bit and for servers. how do I get apt-get to give this to me?
[04:51] <Bashing-om> LrdHelmet: Now-a-days, the kernel is the kernel is the kernel . same kernel is in the desktop as in a server . current kernel is 3.13.0-76-generic dor 14.04 .
[04:52] <LrdHelmet> okay, good to know
[04:52] <llldino> Bashing-om, My kernal is 3.16.0-4 and I'm on debian. I always thought debian used an older kernal than Ubuntu S:
[04:53] <Bashing-om> llldino: In ubuntu there is HWE to use the kernel from upstream releasse .
[04:53] <Bashing-om> !hwe | lll
[04:53] <Stepnjump> Hi guys, I installed edubuntu on two exactly same computers for my kids and one of them is acting weird... On the limited account, it works but in the admin account, I see the desktop picture but no icon. it gets stuck there... Any idea what I should do?
[05:00] <bob2021> hey.  i can't seem to pair my apple bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu.  can someone help?
[05:00] <LrdHelmet> must be bad documentation
[05:00] <LrdHelmet> oh well
[05:01] <Muimi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/723632/nvidia-7300-le-driver-15-10-how-to-install-ubuntu-modprobe-error-could-not any ideas?
[05:03] <martin1989> hi people
[05:03] <martin1989> i wanna know how to set a start up application
[05:04] <martin1989> hello]?
[05:07] <bob2021> hey... i can't seem to get ubuntu to talk to my apple wireless keyboard.  can someone help?
[05:11] <cosec_> Anyone running dota 2 in ubuntu?
[05:11] <martin1989> nope
[05:11] <martin1989> only super tux kart :)
[05:11] <martin1989> wiii
[05:11] <martin1989> hahaha
[05:11] <cosec_> Hahaha
[05:12] <technoweenie> Okay, so after having a lively chat with Microsoft support. I found out I want to stay away from all the partitions except /dev/sda5 ntfs which is not being used for system files. not sure why there is 500 megs not formated on my hard drive, but anyone know how to split this partition to be used for the other OS?
[05:12] <technoweenie> Ubuntu that is?
[05:14] <technoweenie> Anyone, anyone!
[05:15] <Bashing-om> Muimi: What release are you on, and what retuens ' apt-cache show nvidia-304 ' ?
[05:17] <technoweenie> Bashing-om, after you are done there... Do  you think you might be able to answer my question?
[05:18] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: If I were comfortable with dualbooting with Windows, I would be glad to assist . I try not to poke in where I "do not know " .
[05:21] <technoweenie> looks like you might have answered my question with the link you gave me.
[05:22] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: I will be glad to attempt an answer to anything that you ask . I can always respond that "I do not Know " I will give the best of what I have .
[05:23] <Muimi> Any ideas?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/723632/nvidia-7300-le-no-device-system-program-problem-detected-very-laggy
[05:24] <technoweenie> okay who know what it's talking about when it talks about "device for boot loader installation?" I see one windows partition that has a "windows boot loader on it" How do I get bois to see that I have to os and I want the option to install both? I thought Ubuntu was user friendly?
[05:24] <Bashing-om> Muimi: 3 times I have responded to you . Please pay attention . see my XX:15 entry .
[05:25] <Muimi> sorry man
[05:25] <Muimi> 15.10
[05:25] <technoweenie> I am about to back out of installing this and stick with the nsa's light se linux.
[05:25] <Muimi> is there a way to go through the apt-cache thing more slowly?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | technoweenie
[05:26] <Muimi> at the end it says Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug > Origin: Ubuntu > Supported: 9m
[05:26] <inteus> Muimi: add |less to your command...something like  apt-cache search blah |less
[05:27] <inteus> or |more
[05:27] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Best I recall you have an UEFI system. Thee boot code for ubuntu then will be added to that in /boot/efi partition .
[05:30] <Muimi> you need the whole thing right?
[05:30] <Bashing-om> Muimi: I was not sure that the 304 vrsion driver was still available . do: ' sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Let the system take care of all that heavy lifting .
[05:30] <technoweenie> I was over complicating things. Thanks Bashing-om!
[05:31] <Muimi> is there some way to upload the results of the cmd to a pastebin from terminal?
[05:32] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Uncertainty can have a way of doing that . Can not be a lot to dual booting as hundreds do it daily .
[05:32] <Muimi> I'm on picture 20 or so, right now.
[05:33] <Bashing-om> Muimi: All I needed to do was confirm that the driver was still available for such an old card . Try the above and advise on results .
[05:34] <technoweenie> Bashing-om, I had never seen so many partitions before for one OS!
[05:34] <technoweenie> Last time I dual booted I ran XP and SuSe together.
[05:36] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: UEFI by default supports 128 partitions in the GPR paeririoning scheme . UEFI is the new kid in the block .. blows away that legacy partitioning scheme but many of us do not know how to cope with it .
[05:36] <llldino> Myself included
[05:36] <Bashing-om> GPR/GPT*
[05:38] <technoweenie> yeah, you kinda stumped me with the VEFI, but I wasn't going to admit to it!
[05:38] <inteus> Muimi: you can add '| nc termbin.com 9999' to the end of your command and it will give you a url of the output
[05:38] <inteus> Muimi: without the ' obviously :)
[05:39] <Bashing-om> !UEFI
[05:39] <Muimi> http://sprunge.us/IiFU
[05:41] <Bashing-om> Muimi: Yeah, all that says is that the driver is in the repo .
[05:41] <technoweenie> Well, thank you for that info!
[05:42] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: I do not have any machines with UEFI, so I am slow on the uptake .
[05:43] <technoweenie> Really?
[05:43] <technoweenie> I am even slower.
[05:44] <Muimi> Looks like i'm getting the same issue.
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Muimi: " Looks like i'm getting the same issue " does not help to find the problem . Tell us what is really going on . We are not at your terminal, you must tell us .
[05:46] <inteus> details are your friend
[05:46] <Muimi> the same thing that was happening before. getting tons of system problem detected errors and a black desktop sometimes
[05:46] <Muimi> all the icons are blurry and stuff
[05:48] <Bashing-om> Muimi: Then in such an event one reads the log file to see if there is any hints on what caused the error . ' pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[05:49] <Muimi> gonna have to do it tomorrow i'm through at this house. thanks for the help.
[05:50] <Bashing-om> Muimi: Not much help yet. We try more later .
[05:57] <pingaan> is anyone awake with knowledge o vsftpd?
[05:57] <technoweenie> I see bots!
[05:58] <cfhowlett> pingaan, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd
[05:59] <pingaan> need help figuring out why im able to connect via sftp but not ftp.. checking the link, doubting itll bring answers
[06:00] <technoweenie> What should I read to get the most out of ubuntu?
[06:00] <technoweenie> Are we still using WINE in linux?
[06:01] <cfhowlett> !manua | technoweenie,
[06:01] <cfhowlett> !fcm > technoweenie
[06:01] <cfhowlett> !manual > technoweenie
[06:01] <technoweenie> ok
[06:01] <llldino> technoweenie, Honestly, just read everything and anything. It's easier to learn about a system by using it everyday, breaking things, solving problems you have, sitting in #ubuntu and listening to everyone else's problems
[06:02] <cfhowlett> llldino, exactomundo!!
[06:03] <technoweenie> my biggest concern is security. I know that linux is a target too, and I want my computer as secure as possible!
[06:03] <cfhowlett> technoweenie, the biggest security risk on linux systems is the USER not the OS.
[06:04] <Bashing-om> technoweenie: Also: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty .
[06:04] <cfhowlett> regular updates, stay in repos, avoid sketchy internet sites and 99% of your security issues are solved.
[06:04] <llldino> technoweenie, Provided you have a strong password, you're firewalled and you're not building packages from strange websites, I wouldn't be concerned
[06:05] <technoweenie> True, cfhowlett, if the user does not take the proper precautions. I was thinking about learning about TOR, but that comes with great risk.
[06:06] <cfhowlett> technoweenie, 1.. read the manual.  2.  read FCM.  and 3. get off of IRC and go do 1 and 2
[06:06] <technoweenie> LOL sounds good!
[06:06] <cfhowlett> my $0.02 YMMV
[06:21] <ubuntu558> hi guys
[06:21] <ubuntu558> i have quick question..
[06:22] <llldino> Fire away
[06:22] <ubuntu558> If there is a service X already in a RUNNING state on a Linux box, and we issue another START action for the same service.  Does it restart the current service in RUNNING state? Does it create a new instance of the service? (should be highly unlikely) Does it ignore the start action (since it is already in RUNNING state)?
[06:24] <ubuntu558> If there is a service X already in a RUNNING state on a ubuntu box, and we issue another START action for the same service.  Does it restart the current service in RUNNING state? Does it create a new instance of the service? (should be highly unlikely) Does it ignore the start action (since it is already in RUNNING state)?
[06:25] <llldino> !patience > ubuntu558
[06:25] <ubuntu558> llldino: Ok friend
[06:26] <ubuntu558> ubottu: not received ur message
[06:26] <llldino> And to answer your question, if service X is running already, service X start will do nothing
[06:27] <ubuntu558> llldino: service X start will do nothing..Means?
[06:27] <llldino> Pretty much exactly what it sounds like
[06:28] <ubuntu558> llldino: Does it create a new instance of the service? (should be highly unlikely) Does it ignore the start action (since it is already in RUNNING state)?
[06:29] <jannnd> Hello Guys
[06:29] <inteus> ubuntu558: like llldino said, it won't do anything.
[06:30] <jannnd> I need a help with lxde wireless issue.
[06:30] <jannnd> I can connected to the internet via Wireless, Then connection lost after few minutes.
[06:30] <inteus> jannnd: ask away, if someone can help, they'll answer :)
[06:30] <jannnd> Then command sudo ip link set eth0 down resolve issue temporiarity
[06:30] <jannnd> My laptop has Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230
[06:30] <jannnd> I downloaded and installed iwlwifi driver from their official site
[06:31] <jannnd> Please help me, guys how can i solve this issue ?
[06:31] <ubuntu558> Thanks inteus
[06:31] <jannnd> My network manager is NetworkManager Applet 0.9.10.0
[06:32] <jannnd> inteus thanks :)
[06:36] <zykotick9> jannnd: if you run "lspci -nn | grep -i net" does it show your wireless?  if so, what is the pciid (looks like [8086:109a])?
[06:39] <Dark_Kill> aew bruno
[06:39] <bruno> ow dani
[06:39] <bruno> ehuehueh
[06:40] <Dark_Kill> Seu linux ta cortadinho?
[06:40] <bruno> ubuntero memu
[06:46] <guamaboy> hello
[06:50] <mcoffin> Is there an outage on the AWS us-west-2 archive right now? Everything I have indicates so
[06:51] <mcoffin> But I just did a massive infrastructure upgrade, so it would be a hell of a coincidence
[06:51] <cfhowlett> mcoffin, aws?  have to ask amazon.  this is ubuntu ... nothing to do with AWS
[06:51] <llldino> mcoffin, What's the URL
[06:51] <mcoffin> llldino: us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <mcoffin> cfhowlett: ^ The ubuntu archive that runs on AWS for locality's sake. sorry for the confusion
[06:51] <llldino> mcoffin, I can ping it but it's slow
[06:51] <cfhowlett> 503 unavailable
[06:52] <mcoffin> Well that's one hell of a time for an outage haha. Right in the middle of an upgrade
[06:52] <mcoffin> I'll roll back I guess
[06:52] <llldino> I've got 503 as well
[06:52] <cfhowlett> mcoffin, seems official : http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:53] <mcoffin> Yep. Don't exactly know where to report it even haha. Though I'm sure someone's monitoring alarms are going off
[06:53] <cfhowlett> yeah the timing does suck, mcoffin but can you not roll back to the previous "image" or whatever it's called?
[07:03] <StangX5> Hello
[07:09] <mcoffin> FWIW, outage seems to be over
[07:39] <retrojeff> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14588859/    Error on Line #27
[07:40] <retrojeff> Error in `/usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs', line 9: all `Format' sections are invalid.
[07:40] <retrojeff> Note: `install-docs --verbose --check file_name' may give more details about the above error.
[07:45] <jeffrey_f> How would I change the name of my ethernet.  It has a name of "enx<MacAddress>" right now
[07:45] <jeffrey_f> on RPi
[07:45] <retrojeff> theres a file somewhere you can change I forget where
[07:46] <retrojeff> is your pi debian based or ubuntu based
[07:48] <retrojeff> ok found it..... /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:48] <retrojeff> check that file it should have everything you are looking for
[07:49] <retrojeff> good luck to you
[08:01] <sagar09> Hii
[08:05] <sagar09> hi
[08:06] <jerry512> hello, I am trying to make a redirect to a subdirectory in apache with htaccess using an IP address instead of a domain... I am trying to have it without index.php file from showing - just the ip address
[08:25] <rnnnnn> On a fresh new 15 ubuntu server i cannot reach ssh from local network. Forgot to install it in setup, so i did apt-get install openssh-server. But still cannot connect. The service is running. Any ideas?
[08:25] <macj> hi guys
[08:26] <macj> how can install packet tracer ?ubuntu 14
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> macj: you mean like wireshark?
[08:27] <macj> packet tracer , the simulation software for networking students
[08:27] <macj> i mean cisco packet tracer
[08:28] <cfhowlett> macj,be specific!  url?  link?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> macj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/335785/how-do-i-run-cisco-packet-tracer-6-0-1
[08:28] <macj> yes
[08:30] <macj> thanks let try it out though they are talking about downloading and extracting Bin file and after that , the process to install is not clear
[08:33] <Loshki> rnnnnn: can you connect from the server to itself "ssh -v localhost" and pastebin the output
[08:35] <rnnnnn> Loshki, cant easily pastebin but it worked, missed some identity files but connected anyway and asked for my password.
[08:36] <esperegu_> hi. anybody knows how I can send commands to a serial port like minicom does? When I just do an echo it does not work. when I run it in minicom it does. But I want it in a script so I want minicom to exit after running it. any ideas?
[08:36] <Loshki> rnnnnn: same again, but from another host in the local segment to your server
[08:37] <gianki76> ciao
[08:38] <rnnnnn> Loshki, nothing. Times out. Does ubuntu install some firewall by default?
[08:38] <gianki76> !list
[08:38] <cfhowlett> !ufw | rnnnnn firewall is not enabled by default
[08:38] <rnnnnn> The service says it is listning on 0.0.0.0
[08:39] <rnnnnn> I havt enabled anything except the openssh-server
[08:39] <rnnnnn> Hmm. Cant even ping the machine. But the machine can ping others.
[08:39] <Loshki> rnnnnn: can you even ping between client and server?
[08:40] <rnnnnn> Loshki, from server to client and Internet. But not from client to server.
[08:42] <rnnnnn> Never had this problem before. Hmmm
[08:51] <jophish> Why does apt download 48MB of packages yet use only 4KB after applying the updates
[08:52] <cfhowlett> jophish, update = refresh the calendar.  packages = PACKAGES
[08:52] <jophish> surely it can't be replacing the whole package. Does it use any kind of diff?
[08:52] <jophish> cfhowlett: huh?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> jophish, could be a diff --- that would make sense
[08:54] <ktchk> hello ubuntu 12.04 install mono 3.2.8 ???
[08:59] <root_07> Hi
[09:00] <personal-> salve, ho un problema con l'assegnazione dei ip aggiunti su un vps. c'è qualcuno che riesce a spiegarmi come fare ?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !it | personal-
[09:02] <shrilaxmi> cfhowlett: In Hexchat, I have joined in multiple channels, if I wanna send the same text in all channels what should I do
[09:03] <cfhowlett> shrilaxmi, sorry, I don't know . also crossposting like that is seriously frowned upon.  do not.
[09:08] <shrilaxmi> <Meeting now>
[09:10] <Guest7> anyone know why my attempt to install from usb goes to blank screen after selecting "Install Ubuntu". It used to work fine, however I now have a GTX980 installed. Are there any obvious flags I should be using?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | Guest7, try
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: wich ubuntu version?
[09:11] <Guest7> ubottu: thanks a bunch, will try that now. Cheers.
[09:12] <Guest7> lotuspsychje 14.4.3lts
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: ok you could also give a shot on ubuntu 15.10 to compare
[09:14] <Guest7> not sure if applicable, but more info is always good, xubuntu desktop installed fine, same version.
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: try the nomodeset first as cfhowlett sugested
[09:16] <Guest7> im also getting just before blank screen "acpi acc probe failed"
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Guest7, nomodeset triggers the simplest of display configurations.  once you get full installation you can go back and set it to your needs.
[09:20] <Guest7> i used unetbootin to create this usb, so i enter nomodeset after "/ubnkern initrd=/ubninit file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper quiet splash -- "          then I append nomodeset after the --?
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: nomodeset can be chosen on your existing grub
[09:25] <Guest7> lotuspsychje: You may have something with trying the latest 15 version. The xubuntu version that works is 15.. hmm.
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: as your card is pretty new, il would test 15.10
[09:26] <Guest7> lotuspsychje: good idea, thanks I appreciate it.
[09:28] <Guest7> When 16.04 LTS comes out, how do I remain on the LTS even after subsequent releases come out prior to a next LTS, and keep my system updated?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: doing the upgrade to the next LTS will give you a message
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: you can also test 16.04 in a development phase right now
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: see #ubuntu+1 for 16.04
[09:29] <DJones> Guest7: Normally by default, LTS releases are only set to upgrade to the next LTS release, unless you change your settings to allow LTS to next release
[09:30] <Guest7> lotuspsychje: sorry for the noob questions. So if I install 15 now, there will be a notification to upgrade to 16.04LTS? I dont do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:31] <Guest7> DJones: Ok. Yeah that's what I was wondering, and why I was wanting to install 14.04LTS now instead of 15.
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: you can do-release-upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 also yes
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: but in your case, you need to think of your gtx980, and use the version that works best for your card atm
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: so maybe a temporary use 15.10 and upgrade to 16.04 might be good for you?
[09:33] <Guest7> lotuspsychje: ok, yes sounds great.
[09:34] <Guest7> So from reading above there is a setting somewhere to only go from LTS to LTS?
[09:34] <Guest7> So once I get the 16.04 I will set that somewhere.
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: as DJones was saying it should only got from LTS to LTS by default
[09:36] <Guest7> lotuspsychje: oh man.. the nomodeset option works!
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: thank cfhowlett for that :p
[09:36] <Shutem_Down> Hi, what is the best way to output the contents of dmesg to a txt file?
[09:37] <Shutem_Down> do i pipe or sdout?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Shutem_Down: whats your end goal with this?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> Shutem_Down, dmesg > filename.txt
[09:37] <Shutem_Down> thanks :)
[09:37] <Shutem_Down> end goal is possibly to share
[09:37] <Guest7> i was writing it after the "--" in the edit boot flags setting. I ended up replacing "silent splash" with "nomodeset" and it works.
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> Shutem_Down: pastebinit also works nice
[09:37] <Guest7> cfhowlett: thanks a lot for your help.
[09:37] <Guest7> Thanks guys, really appreciate the support. Extremely helpful.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> happy2help! guest7
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: once your on 16.04 it will ask you first to upgrade to other version
[09:38] <PamParaPam> how to disable ctrl+q?
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Guest7: its always possible to manually go to a next release
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | PamParaPam can this help?
[09:43] <PamParaPam> lotuspsychje, ubottu: solved by adding custom shortcut, it has command /bin/false and is executed by ctrl+q, now windows are not closed
[09:44] <PamParaPam> lotuspsychje, ubottu: thank you for help
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> !yay | PamParaPam
[09:55] <Shutem_Down> I have a bad block that appears to be preventing me from creating a new partition on unallocated space
[09:56] <Shutem_Down> fsck wont do much good because it's not formatted to a filesystem
[09:57] <daclinux> hi，all
[09:58] <kaype> sup
[09:58] <kaype> so uh
[09:58] <kaype> i'm getting the low graphics mode thing at the moment and all i did was try to log out
[09:59] <kaype> when i hit the logout button it froze up the whole system for about a minute and then rebooted with the low graphics mode
[09:59] <kaype> fun stuff
[10:00] <retrojeff> did you apt-get upgrade recently?
[10:00] <kaype> retrojeff: yeah, also had a couple errors at the bottom of it
[10:00] <retrojeff> if your kernel was  updated recently the new drivers will need to be loaded into it
[10:00] <kaype> atm running an upgrade so i cant see what it was
[10:01] <retrojeff> for example if you have nvidia I have todo # dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-352
[10:01] <retrojeff> for the nvidia drivers to be build for the new kernel
[10:02] <retrojeff> because for some fucking reason DKMS wont do that for us
[10:02] <retrojeff> which is god damned annoying as fuck
[10:02] <kaype> atm i'm using the proprietary drivers
[10:02] <kaype> also running 14.04 atm
[10:02] <retrojeff> if you see errors like DKMS.CONF not found
[10:02] <retrojeff> you will have the same problem
[10:03] <retrojeff> and need to reload the graphics drivers for the updated kernel
[10:03] <retrojeff> or suffer the wrath of low graphics mode
[10:03] <kaype> i keep seeing stuff in the upgrade log about icon themes saying "This very likely means your installation is broken"
[10:03] <kaype> so shit
[10:03] <retrojeff> it was linus torvold himself that gave nvidia the finger
[10:04] <retrojeff> he said outloud "nvidia..... fuck you"
[10:04] <retrojeff> it was cute
[10:04] <kaype> i think i might chuck in a liveusb real quick so i can pull off data
[10:04] <kaype> and yeah i remember that
[10:04] <kaype> linus is really salty about a lot of stuff
[10:04] <kaype> like his thoughts on C++
[10:04] <retrojeff> lol
[10:04] <kaype> "This is a bad language because of the people who use it"
[10:04] <llldino> !ot
[10:05] <retrojeff> kaype could you pastebin your output from $ lsmod
[10:05] <cfhowlett> retrojeff, family friendly channel here.   no profanity
[10:05] <retrojeff> ya because 7 year olds run ubuntu and know how to use I-R-C
[10:05] <retrojeff> god I miss the 90s
[10:06] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | retrojeff no.  because the guidelines apply to everyone here ... even you.
[10:06] <retrojeff> only adults knew how to use I-R-C
[10:06] <liquidsnake> lol
[10:07] <retrojeff> there is a fine line between venting your frustration and spaming just gibberish to be annoying
[10:08] <retrojeff> I tend to vent far too often when I see good people do stupid things
[10:08] <kaype> retrojeff: well this channel is really robotic honestly. i mentioned that i successfully got ubuntu installed on this mac pro and 3 people ran the !mac command or whatever at once because they can't read
[10:08] <kaype> retrojeff: also the output from that is huge lol
[10:08] <kaype> i'm in the cli atm because it can't even get into low graphics mode
[10:08] <retrojeff> kaype I agree fully
[10:09] <kaype> if there are any specific things from this list you're needing let me know i guess
[10:09] <retrojeff> to your point of it being robotic but with 2000 some odd users you need that
[10:09] <kaype> yeah true
[10:10] <kaype> but anyways right now i have no way of pastebin-ning stuff out so i'm wondering what i'm looking for
[10:10] <kaype> also my graphics card is a GeForce GT 640
[10:10] <retrojeff> I have the same graphics card
[10:10] <retrojeff> try this
[10:10] <_Sponge_> QUESTION: AM I right - It's eight hours til Mark Shuttleworths Keynote ??
[10:10] <kaype> i also have an ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT in here which I use because the GeForce GT 640 doesn't actually show the boot screen for OS X
[10:10] <retrojeff> # dpkg -l nvidia-*
[10:11] <kaype> gotta manually type that out
[10:11] <kaype> brb pastebinning
[10:11] <retrojeff> look for nvidia-352
[10:11] <kaype> its there
[10:11] <retrojeff> ok
[10:11] <retrojeff> now type
[10:11] <retrojeff> # dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-352
[10:11] <retrojeff> it should start to rebuild for your current kernel
[10:12] <_Sponge_> QUESTION: AM I right - It's eight hours till Mark Shuttleworths Keynote ?
[10:12] <cfhowlett> http://ubucon.org/en/events/ubucon-summit-us/schedule/
[10:12] <retrojeff> kaype: you should also have nvidia-opencl-icd-352
[10:12] <kaype> yep i have that
[10:12] <retrojeff> ok good
[10:12] <kaype> i also have icd-331 and icd-331-updates
[10:12] <kaype> which is odd
[10:13] <retrojeff> you can purge remove them
[10:13] <retrojeff> they are old and pointless
[10:13] <kaype> would they cause any conflict?
[10:13] <kaype> also it's done
[10:13] <retrojeff> no
[10:13] <_Sponge_> but is it 8 hours away ?
[10:13] <retrojeff> I do not have 331 and my machine works fine
[10:13] <retrojeff> so it rebuild for your current kernel?
[10:14] <kaype> I believe so, no big errors or anything
[10:14] <kaype> DKMS: Install completed.
[10:14] <retrojeff> ok cool
[10:14] <retrojeff> reboot and it should work
[10:14] <_Sponge_> I give up.
[10:15] <retrojeff> _Sponge_ would that information not be on a google search?
[10:15] <kaype> retrojeff: alright, waiting on it now. by the way thanks a lot for the help
[10:15] <retrojeff> sure no problem kaype
[10:15] <kaype> it sure is taking a while to shut down. >_>
[10:15] <_Sponge_> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/los-angeles
[10:15] <kaype> the little '.....' that shows up underneath the logo isn't even doing anything
[10:15] <retrojeff> I know the pain of having todo that because each time I run # apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:16] <retrojeff> it requires that I reconfigure the nvidia drivers
[10:16] <retrojeff> well each time the kernel gets updated
[10:16] <kaype> this is a dumb question but what if i did a hard shutdown
[10:16] <retrojeff> bad idea
[10:16] <kaype> i've been sitting here for about two mins waiting on this to shut down >_>
[10:16] <retrojeff> very very very bad idea
[10:16] <kaype> yeah i've killed a great many computers that way
[10:17] <kaype> it'd be nice if it showed a log of everything happening instead of that GUI though
[10:17] <retrojeff> you can
[10:17] <kaype> well, kinda late to do that now i think since it's already working on tryna shut down
[10:17] <retrojeff> if you edit /etc/default/grub I think you can force text mode
[10:18] <retrojeff> mine is set to
[10:18] <retrojeff> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="plymouth:debug video=uvesafb drm.debug=0xe vga=791 modeset=1"
[10:18] <retrojeff> I see all the boot messages during boot hehe
[10:18] <kaype> i really wonder if having two cards in there is messing with it
[10:18] <retrojeff> probley
[10:19] <retrojeff> were you trying for SLI?
[10:19] <kaype> i need to have one of them in there though since this is a mac pro and the GT 640 is a non EFI card right
[10:19] <retrojeff> or multi monitor setup?
[10:19] <retrojeff> also ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww mac
[10:19] <kaype> I use two monitors, but right now i have a third one which is hooked up to the Radeon HD 2600 XT
[10:19] <retrojeff> I hate apple and everything it stands for
[10:20] <retrojeff> you get what you deserve absolute crap
[10:20] <kaype> well, I can't run photoshop efficiently on linux, which I need for my job, and I don't like working with windows since I need m-m-m-muh unix
[10:20] <lotus|xenial> retrojeff: please keep it ontopic
[10:21] <retrojeff> steve jobs struts around like he was hot **** meanwhile it was steve wozniak was the real genious
[10:21] <IceBot3000> retrojeff: You have issues
[10:22] <retrojeff> GIMP is not all that bad
[10:22] <retrojeff> but it does lack some features only found in photoshop
[10:22] <retrojeff> *sigh*
[10:22] <lotus|xenial> !ot | retrojeff
[10:22] <lotus|xenial> retrojeff: stop that please
[10:22] <retrojeff> stop using your stupid bot
[10:23] <retrojeff> like you worship the damn thing you probley sleep with it too
[10:23] <IceBot3000> GIMP doesn't even support CMYK properly. And the majority of operations it carries out are destructive rather than editable. It's a joke for proper design work
[10:23] <kaype> yeah GIMP is incredibly buggy for what I do
[10:23] <rizal>  /quit
[10:23] <lotus|xenial> !discuss
[10:23] <zbouby15> hi all, i'm trying to install a SFTP with HA/load balancing features, could you please give me your thoughts regarding my LAB ==> http://postimg.org/image/3rtwxt15h/ ?
[10:24] <kaype> aight i guess i'll shutup now. will talk once something breaks again
[10:24] <retrojeff> kaype did yours reboot ok?
[10:24] <kaype> retrojeff: still hasn't shut down yet
[10:24] <kaype> it's stuck on the little screen with the ubuntu logo and the loading/cleanup dots
[10:25] <kaype> but the dots aren't even doing anything either. I think it's completely frozen
[10:25] <retrojeff> does holding CTRL+ALT and pressing X do anything?
[10:25] <retrojeff> or does holding CTRL+ALT and pressing F1 do anything?
[10:25] <kaype> retrojeff: neither of them do anything
[10:25] <retrojeff> ok force it down
[10:25] <retrojeff> its frozen
[10:26] <kaype> retrojeff: wait aw no
[10:26] <kaype> i hit the power button once and i saw the dots finally starting to move
[10:26] <kaype> then without having enough time to react to that i held it down
[10:26] <kaype> gonna start it up. here's to hoping it isn't bricked.
[10:27] <retrojeff> CTRL+ALT+X should bring up boot messages or CTRL+ALT+F1 would bring up TTY1 giving you a shell
[10:27] <kaype> having a no-cursing policy in a support channel is really frustrating lmao
[10:27] <kaype> still getting low graphics mode
[10:27] <retrojeff> thats probley due to having 2 graphics cards I would imagine
[10:28] <retrojeff> in which case you are on your own for that one
[10:28] <kaype> i'm gonna do something probably stupid but i'm going to unplug the monitor from that one card and see if it adapts to the other one
[10:28] <retrojeff> good luck
[10:28] <kaype> at the moment i have two monitors and a third one that's plugged into the HD2600XT
[10:29] <kaype> course the cards called the 2600 XT because it's only capable of rendering atari 2600 games jesus christ i hate this card so much
[10:29] <retrojeff> that just sounds like overkill
[10:30] <_Sponge_> lotta ppl quiting.
[10:30] <kaype> retrojeff: it's sorta overkill but the 2600XT doesn't really do anything, it's just there because the GT 640 doesn't even show the startup screen/bootloader
[10:30] <kaype> something something efi i'm not good with that
[10:31] <retrojeff> UEFI BIOS is a god damned joke
[10:31] <retrojeff> I kid you not
[10:31] <retrojeff> I have bricked about 25 laptops and they all had UEFI
[10:31] <retrojeff> had to send them all back to DELL to be reflashed
[10:31] <retrojeff> its stupid
[10:31] <cfhowlett> zbouby15, ambitious!  you might ask over in #ubuntu-server
[10:32] <IceBot3000> Sure it's not a pebkac issue?
[10:32] <zbouby15> oh okay thanks
[10:32] <retrojeff> the day when we can have linux running inside the bios.... "coreboot" *cough* *cough*
[10:33] <kaype> one day i'm going to sell every piece of technology i have and just build some god-tier linux machine with hardware that's specifically known for having great linux support
[10:33] <kaype> because i'm tired of this
[10:33] <retrojeff> sounds like a grand idea :-)
[10:33] <kaype> i just want stuff to work and the workflow with linux is so nice
[10:34] <kaype> but in all the years i've been using this there's always some little catch
[10:34] <kaype> the only time i've had a flawless linux experience was when i ran Lubuntu on my dell optiplex 755
[10:35] <kaype> honestly i don't even know what i did to completely break it
[10:35] <kaype> it was working flawlessly all day
[10:36] <kaype> retrojeff: assuming the issue had to do with shutdown, should i repeat what you mentioned earlier?
[10:36] <kaype> because right now i'm not sure how i can check if the changes went through
[10:36] <kaype> right now i'm in the command line again because low graphics mode doesn't even do anything
[10:37] <retrojeff> it should show up in # lsmod
[10:37] <retrojeff> that the drivers are loaded
[10:38] <retrojeff> # lsmod | grep drm
[10:38] <retrojeff> drm                   356352  3 nvidia
[10:39] <kaype> 'drm_kms_helper 126976 1 radeon', and just 'drm 344064 5 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nvidia,radeon'
[10:39] <kaype> retrojeff: ^
[10:39] <retrojeff> hrmmmmm
[10:39] <retrojeff> you have radeon loaded as well
[10:39] <retrojeff> probley a conflict there
[10:40] <kaype> maybe
[10:40] <retrojeff> most likely
[10:40] <retrojeff> hence why I said having multiple cards not a good idea
[10:40] <kaype> before in unity both of the cards were active and displaying stuff though, all i did was go into the preferences and disable the monitor that's plugged into the 2600XT
[10:41] <kaype> but even after disabling that monitor it worked fine even with occasional restarts
[10:41] <retrojeff> try this and look for
[10:41] <retrojeff> # dmesg | grep nvidia
[10:41] <retrojeff> [   24.764406] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[10:42] <retrojeff> see if you get something like that
[10:42] <kaype> i do retrojeff
[10:42] <retrojeff> also
[10:42] <retrojeff> [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20150116 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[10:42] <retrojeff> or something like that
[10:42] <kaype> that too
[10:43] <klinikot> what software would you suggest to find duplicate files?
[10:44] <shrilaxmi> text_spacing_msg 10
[10:44] <kaype> klinikot: this probably isn't helpful at all but if you search in nautilus i'm sure it'd show duplicates but not point them out
[10:44] <kaype> could probably write a little script to do it, one might be out there on github or something
[10:46] <Ben64> theres stuff in the repos to find duplicates
[10:46] <Ben64> rdfind, findimagedupes come to mind, there might be others
[10:46] <kaype> retrojeff: you said you were having this problem earlier, right?
[10:47] <retrojeff> I fixed my problem with just running # dpkg-reconfigure on nvidia-352
[10:47] <retrojeff> took not even 10 seconds
[10:48] <retrojeff> it said it was building for my new kernel .... rebooted and bam I had 1080p again
[10:48] <retrojeff> there is something funky with your setup that is causing issues
[10:48] <retrojeff> maybe a Xorg config file
[10:48] <kaype> retrojeff: maybe the hard shutdown could've caused it to not apply?
[10:49] <retrojeff> check your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf as well
[10:49] <retrojeff> incase something got blacklisted by mistake
[10:50] <kaype> retrojeff: so far nothing relevant seems to be in here
[10:50] <retrojeff> I would tend to lean more on the fact of you having multiple graphic cards of different types
[10:50] <retrojeff> which sounds overkill and stupid if you ask me
[10:50] <kaype> it isn't that i want to
[10:50] <retrojeff> probley a conflict somewhere
[10:51] <kaype> it's that i need that second card in there to actually see what's going on as the system boots
[10:51] <retrojeff> why
[10:51] <kaype> without this card i would've just gotten a black screen very likely
[10:51] <kaype> because the GT 640 is a nonEFI card iirc
[10:51] <retrojeff> I have nvidia I can see boot messages just fine
[10:52] <retrojeff> I do not have a UEFI BIOS thank god
[10:52] <kaype> aha, now you see why it's always pain in the ass to run anything linux related on apple products :P
[10:52] <retrojeff> I would piss on that BIOS chip and watch it melt before using it
[10:52] <kaype> i only paid about $350 for this old machine so
[10:52] <kaype> it's a 2008 mac pro so the godawful support is agiven
[10:53] <retrojeff> the fact you are running apple I have no sympothy.... but you are attempting to run ubuntu on it I give you credit
[10:53] <kaype> retrojeff: it's for work and other things
[10:53] <kaype> mainly photoshop and logic pro x
[10:53] <retrojeff> so leave it at work and get yourself a 2nd machine
[10:53] <retrojeff> strickly for ubuntu
[10:53] <kaype> i plan on it
[10:54] <kaype> right now i'm gonna probably do a few more upgrades on the machine to see if i can get a bit more out of it on ebay or something and then use the money to build one with hardware that works well with linux
[10:54] <retrojeff> now that ubuntu no longer forces amazon search on people by default
[10:54] <retrojeff> I feel slighty better about it
[10:55] <kaype> yeah when RMS among many others started complaining about it canonical knew something was up
[10:55] <IceBot3000> In a sense Macs are good value when buying computers, they hold their value extremely well
[10:55] <retrojeff> I never liked or used unity.... I always go with other DE's like Xfce or Mate or Cinnamon
[10:55] <kaype> IceBot3000: this mac pro was around $4000 when it came out in 2008 and it's $400 on ebay nowadays assuming it's left unupgraded
[10:56] <kaype> retrojeff: my go-to desktop outside of unity is mate
[10:56] <kaype> if only i could theme it to look identical to 10.04, which i probably can
[10:56] <peaceful>  Hey, i have old HP Compaq 6715s laptop, with 1GB ram, 128mb ATI x1250 video, AMD Sempron 64-bit processor. Should i install 32bit linux or 64bit linux? Thanks for answers
[10:56] <IceBot3000> kaype: Still more than you'd get for a $4000 custom PC from 2008
[10:56] <retrojeff> Mate is really Gnome 2 continued
[10:56] <kaype> IceBot3000: yeah even now the mac pro is very much worth its price
[10:56] <IceBot3000> peaceful: 64 bit
[10:56] <kaype> the mac mini and the new macbook they have out with that one USB-C port though... absolutely disgusting
[10:56] <peaceful> IceBear, what's the reason?
[10:57] <retrojeff> peaceful: I would check see if you can upgrade the ram on it.... 1GB sounds small
[10:57] <retrojeff> unless you plan on running a lightweight distro
[10:57] <peaceful> retrojeff, i wont because its old
[10:57] <retrojeff> such has Lubuntu Xubuntu etc
[10:57] <peaceful> yep lubuntu
[10:57] <kaype> i use lubuntu almost everywhere
[10:58] <peaceful> kaype, its my favourite light os
[10:58] <retrojeff> I have a laptop with 3GB ram on it and it feels so slow
[10:58] <retrojeff> I might even throw in a SSD when I get the chance
[10:58] <peaceful> retrojeff, slow?
[10:58] <kaype> also shouldn't we move to #ubuntu-discuss or something i'm pretty sure we're gonna get yelled at for talking even slightly casually in here lol
[10:58] <peaceful> retrojeff, im surprise
[10:59] <retrojeff> 1200 people in here are bots and the ones who are awake only command the bots
[10:59] <peaceful> so should i install 64bit or 32bit?
[10:59] <retrojeff> so in a sense channel is pointless
[10:59] <retrojeff> 64bit should be ok
[10:59] <kaype> retrojeff: oh, hey, the restart is actually working right now i think
[10:59] <peaceful> because i have 64bit processor?
[10:59] <retrojeff> 64bit helps with more ram
[11:00] <kaype> jesus christ
[11:00] <retrojeff> and yes if your cpu is 64bit that helps too
[11:00] <peaceful> ok
[11:00] <peaceful> Ill install 64bit then
[11:01] <retrojeff> I had 64bit windows xp because of needing 6GB of ram
[11:01] <retrojeff> 32bit limits you at like 4GB
[11:01] <IceBot3000> It doesn't actually with PAE, but 64 bit is still preferred
[11:02] <kaype> retrojeff: reinstalling nvidia-current
[11:02] <kaype> i actually don't think it was even installed to begin with
[11:02] <retrojeff> why?
[11:02] <retrojeff> I do not have nvidia-current installed on my machine
[11:02] <retrojeff> and its working fine
[11:02] <kaype> hmm
[11:03] <retrojeff> oh I keep forgetting I am running 16.04 Xenial
[11:03] <kaype> i'm on 14.04.3
[11:04] <retrojeff> if installing nvidia-current wants to remove your nvidia-352 I would start to worry
[11:04] <retrojeff> otherwise no harm I guess
[11:04] <jojo5716> hi
[11:04] <kaype> lol fuk it already did that
[11:04] <retrojeff> ?
[11:05] <kaype> Removing nvidia-352
[11:05] <retrojeff> you shot yourself in the foot?
[11:05] <retrojeff> (applause)
[11:06] <kaype> retrojeff: i backed up everything beforehand and i haven't even had it installed for a full day so
[11:06] <olivier__> Morning' everyone?
[11:07] <kaype> o/
[11:07] <olivier__> g-afternoon... seeking help, Mint Menu vanished
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !mint > olivier__,
[11:07] <cfhowlett> olivier__, wrong channel.  this is ubuntu support only
[11:08] <olivier__> !mint is the right channel?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> I suppose.
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !mint | olivier__
[11:09] <olivier__> thats is, lost Irc etc etc
[11:10] <Nonsage> hello!
[11:10] <big_lurk> having some issues getting clipboard redirection working, xrdp server running on 15.10 MATE with a win RDP client connecting to it. any ideas?
[11:11] <Nonsage> I have a tough time installing nvidia -173 on peppermint six...Could someone please help me via teamviewer?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> Nonsage, peppermint? not supported here.  ubuntu only
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !mint | Nonsage
[11:11] <rightnow|work> Im trying to get phpmyadmin working on ubuntu with PHP7. But i cant enable the mysqli for php7. Is there any other way?
[11:11] <Nonsage> peppermint is ubuntu
[11:11] <cfhowlett> Nonsage, of course it is.  but it is NOT ubuntu and is not supported here.
[11:12] <Nonsage> I see
[11:12] <cfhowlett> !flavors | Nonsage these are the supported flavors of official ubuntu.
[11:12] <Nonsage> I see
[11:13] <olivier__> Thanks whoever helped... had to reinstall IRC too??? what's the %%
[11:13] <IceBot3000> rightnow|work: Older versions probably don't require mysqli. Or try adminer, which I prefer anyway (though it's more hands on)
[11:13] <IceBot3000> rightnow|work: Not sure why you can't install mysqli or PDO, the older mysql interface is now deprecated
[11:14] <rightnow|work> IceBot3000: It says the mysqli.so isnt found
[11:15] <IceBot3000> You've installed the PHP/MySQLI module and enabled it?
[11:15] <rightnow|work> Hmm. not sure. how do i install that one?
[11:15] <retrojeff> # apt-file search 'mysqli.so'
[11:15] <retrojeff> php5-mysql: /usr/lib/php5/20131226/mysqli.so
[11:15] <retrojeff> php5-mysqlnd: /usr/lib/php5/20131226/mysqli.so
[11:15] <rightnow|work> But does that one work with php7?
[11:16] <IceBot3000> Have you installed PHP7 manually outside of the package manager or something?
[11:17] <rightnow|work> Yes using the sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php
[11:17] <rightnow|work> maybe i forgot the php7-mysql package
[11:17] <rightnow|work> worked!
[11:17] <rightnow|work> Thanks IceBot3000!
[11:19] <Volkodav> Hi! I am having this issue for good 3 weeks now http://paste.ubuntu.com/14589555/ and none of the updates can be installed because of that/ ver 15.10
[11:31] <kaype> retrojeff: i think i found the problem
[11:32] <kaype> xorg.conf has no info about the other cards in it, i'm wondering if that might be it
[11:33] <kaype> no driver identifier
[11:36] <retrojeff> low graphics mode menu has the option to go back to a default xorg.conf
[11:36] <retrojeff> did you not try that?
[11:36] <retrojeff> I am pretty sure it makes a backup copy of your existing one
[11:37] <jatt> I can access a host with machine.foo.com but not with machine only, is there a way to configure the system to resolve machine to machine.foo.com?
[11:37] <jatt> Changing the /etc/hosts file or similar?
[11:38] <retrojeff> can you $ ping machine
[11:38] <retrojeff> and have it come back with an IP?
[11:38] <retrojeff> do you have control over your router and add a static entry for "machine"
[11:38] <kaype> retrojeff: i think it's doing that anyway
[11:39] <kaype> any time i try to start lightdm it'll revert to the 4-lined conf that doesn't have any information
[11:39] <jatt> retrojeff: no, ping machine says
[11:39] <jatt> ping: unknown host machine
[11:39] <kaype> i'm using nvidia-xconfig to generate a new one
[11:39] <kaype> but it keeps getting overwritten
[11:39] <retrojeff> kaype: set your xorg.conf to read only
[11:40] <retrojeff> after running nvidia-xconfig
[11:40] <jatt> but ping machine.foo.com works
[11:40] <retrojeff> jatt: you will need to add "machine" to your /etc/hosts
[11:40] <retrojeff> or add a static entry for it in your router
[11:40] <jatt> retrojeff: I see would an entry like:
[11:40] <jatt> machine machine.foo.com
[11:40] <jatt> work?
[11:40] <retrojeff> no
[11:40] <retrojeff> it would not
[11:41] <jatt> hmm which is the right syntax?
[11:41] <retrojeff> having 2 seperate entries point to the same IP is ok
[11:41] <jatt> oh I need the IP, ok will try that out
[11:41] <retrojeff> 1 line per host
[11:41] <jatt> thank you!
[11:43] <retrojeff> I help so many people yet get nothing back
[11:43] <retrojeff> its a great feeling
[11:43] <retrojeff> instead I get some stupid bot telling me to shut the fuck up its so cute
[11:43] <kaype> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220552
[11:43] <kaype> this solution seems to have worked
[11:43] <kaype> but
[11:43] <retrojeff> congrats
[11:44] <kaype> i can only get to the login screen
[11:44] <kaype> after that it just blanks out to a blinking cursor
[11:44] <kaype> so, progress!
[11:44] <retrojeff> can you CTRL+ALT+F1 and see TTY1 ?
[11:44] <retrojeff> with a root login prompt ?
[11:45] <kaype> retrojeff: lmao absolutely fantastic
[11:45] <kaype> did a system reboot and now i'm back to low graphics mode
[11:45] <retrojeff> ?
[11:46] <kaype> the low graphics doesn't even work
[11:46] <kaype> it didn't work to begin with
[11:46] <retrojeff> if you had only 1 graphics card I would not see this as an issue
[11:46] <retrojeff> the fact that your stabbing and shooting yourself in the foot is a waste of time
[11:47] <retrojeff> and doing it with apple hardware no less
[11:47] <retrojeff> thats even worse
[11:48] <kaype> retrojeff: lmao that's just linux in general though
[11:48] <kaype> there's always a catch
[11:48] <jdwwatts> sounds harsh
[11:48] <kaype> the year of the linux desktop is never going to happen because normies aren't going to be the ones wanting to fix this type of stuff
[11:49] <retrojeff> yes because "normies" all run apple hardware
[11:49] <retrojeff> hahahahahaha
[11:49] <retrojeff> (throws head back laughing hard and falls out of chair)
[11:49] <jdwwatts> ive brrn a user for 15 years
[11:49] <kaype> there are people walking around with iphones everywhere ya look and that's undeniable
[11:49] <jdwwatts> been
[11:49] <kaype> but who said i was talking about apple specifically
[11:49] <k1l> !ot
[11:50] <k1l> or your personal blog for rants only
[11:51] <thms> I have backups from my mac on n external hdd, it is hfsplus (miount says that), but the folders Documents and stuf are showing as text file, any idea ?
[11:55] <guest> thms: Does this help? http://askubuntu.com/a/332317
[11:57] <O-Chymera> hi guys, is there any GTK (or just non-QT) application that will let me open .db files as tables? I found sqlitebrowser via google, but it requires qt :(
[11:58] <guest> O-Chymera: perhaps sqlitestudio
[12:03] <O-Chymera> guest that also needs qt :(
[12:10] <IceBot3000> If you use Firefox there's an extension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/
[12:19] <anom_> Hey. everytime I reboot I have to do: setxkbmap -layout gb to fix my keyboard.
[12:20] <anom_> Is there anyone to have this fixed, so I'm not having to redo it every time i reboot?
[12:20] <Kartagis> anom_: do it in cron - @reboot setxkbmap -layout gb
[12:21] <thms> Anyone has idea how I can find out path of the webserver is running ?
[12:21] <thms> of http://textila.be
[12:21] <thms> I'm asked to pentest it
[12:21] <thms> it runs apache and stuff but the OS guess is Vista :/
[12:21] <thms> I tired /var/www/ /var/www/html
[12:22] <Kartagis> thms: apache2ctl -S tells you where to look
[12:23] <Kartagis> thms: or phpinfo()
[12:25] <lerner> https://squoo.sh/SHNIPS/ will anyone please be kind enough to tell me how to use "LUKS Fastest way to randomise disk content" to encrypt a hdd of mine, starting from scratch? I understand nothing
[12:26] <thms> Kartagis: I don't have access to the server, it's blackbox
[12:26] <k1l> lerner: do you understand german (you have a german ip)
[12:27] <lerner> k1l, not a good idea
[12:27] <Kartagis> what is blackbox
[12:28] <Kartagis> googling tells me it's game stuff
[12:29] <k1l> lerner: on installing ubuntu you can choose to let it encrypt the system with LUKS. maybe that is a better solution?
[12:30] <lerner> k1l, I only have one computer
[12:37] <Spacehorst> hi. how do I find out the upstream for a package? I'm looking for the upstream of the file /usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_whois that comes with nagios-plugins-contrib.
[12:38] <evilop> read the info about the nagios-plugins-contrib. it should include a link to upstream
[12:41] <Spacehorst> ok thanks
[12:46] <Hanumaan> how to delete files and folders which are giving input/output error ... I don't those data ..
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> Hanumaan: io errors usually when somethings wrong with your hd, did you try gksu nautilus and delete folder/file?
[12:52] <prem_> hii
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> prem_: welcome how can we help you?
[12:55] <klinikot> and what would you suggest for data backup? Is rdiff-backup good soft?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | klinikot
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> klinikot: sudo photorec after that install
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> klinikot: oh backup thought you wanted recovery
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> !backup | klinikot
[12:59] <administrator> SIEMA
[12:59] <administrator> witam na moim kanale
[12:59] <Guest22098> co tam
[13:00] <Guest22098> co tam
[13:00] <Guest22098> halo
[13:00] <Guest22098> odpisz ktoś
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> !pl | Guest22098
[13:00] <Guest22098> hi guyz
[13:00] <Guest22098> whats up ?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:00] <mrwappie> He guys
[13:00] <Guest22098> never gonna give u up
[13:01] <Guest22098> never gonna let u down
[13:01] <Guest22098> and round and round
[13:01] <Guest22098> ill let u
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest22098: stop that please
[13:01] <mrwappie> I'm wondering if someone knows how to reset all the partitions to one big partition again
[13:01] <Guest22098> why ?
[13:01] <mrwappie> Some tips or links are welcome :)
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> mrwappie: you can use gparted from a liveusb for that
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> Guest22098: because this is an ubuntu support channel
[13:02] <mrwappie> I will Google that thank you Lotuspsychje
[13:02] <Guest22098> easy guyz
[13:02] <k1l> mrwappie: you dont need that data right?
[13:02] <Guest22098> thats possible
[13:02] <Guest22098> what are u doing man
[13:02] <Guest22098> ; /
[13:03] <OerHeks> Guest22098, welcome to the ubuntu support channel
[13:03] <Myrtti> Guest22098: if you don't have a support question relating to Ubuntu, or can't help others with theirss, please find another venue
[13:03] <Guest22098> i want to update ubuntu 9.0 to ubuntu 15.0 but i dont have money
[13:03] <OerHeks> time to read the topic
[13:03] <peaceful> Guest22098, you dont need money for tht
[13:03] <Guest22098> so how i can upgrade this?
[13:04] <mrwappie> No I already made a backup off all the date. Lastnight I made a backbox and ubuntu install but I fucked up while creating my swap so know I want to reset all the partitions so I can start from scratch
[13:04] <peaceful> Guest22098, download ubuntu 15.10
[13:04] <k1l> make a reinstall
[13:04] <Guest22098> i dont want to lose my data base
[13:04] <k1l> mrwappie: ok, then load a live-usb/dvd and use gparted
[13:04] <peaceful> Guest22098, you wont lose
[13:05] <Guest22098> thanks guyz
[13:05] <peaceful> Guest22098, open terminal
[13:05] <peaceful> type: sudo update-manager -d
[13:05] <mrwappie> Got it thank you, just one more thing do you have advise or an link that will help me partions in the right order?
[13:05] <ikonia> no
[13:05] <ikonia> do not use that
[13:05] <k1l> peaceful: stop!
[13:05] <ioria> Guest22098, please, don't do that
[13:05] <ikonia> Guest22098: do not type that command
[13:05] <Guest22098> ok
[13:05] <Guest22098> i wont
[13:05] <k1l> peaceful: if yoiu dont know what the commands do dont suggest other people to run that
[13:06] <peaceful> k1l, i know what it does
[13:06] <k1l> !partitions | mrwappie
[13:06] <ikonia> peaceful: what does it do
[13:06] <ikonia> Guest22098: could you give a 1 line summary of what you want to do please
[13:06] <k1l> peaceful: no you dont. you showed just by naming the -d
[13:06] <peaceful> Guest22098, or try: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[13:06] <ikonia> Guest22098: do not do that command
[13:06] <mrwappie> The requested URL /12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html was not found on this server.
[13:07] <k1l> peaceful: stop giving bad advice!
[13:07] <ikonia> I'll talk to him in pm
[13:07] <ikonia> he's muted
[13:07] <ikonia> Guest22098: just a clear one line status of where you are and where you want to be
[13:07] <Guest22098> im homo
[13:08] <ikonia> Guest7791:  ?
[13:08] <ikonia> oops
[13:09] <BluesKaj>  guests should be forced to use a proper nick
[13:09] <k1l> mrwappie: ok: ~15GB for / partition. the rest on /home partition. both ext4. for swap partition use the same amount you got RAM
[13:09] <mrwappie> Thank you!
[13:14] <hanuman> Hi, when I want to install "apt-get install libmudflap0-dev " in ubuntu 14.04. It is giving no install candidate error. How can I ?
[13:14] <k1l> hanuman: where does it say its a ubuntu package?
[13:15] <MasterOfDisaster> Hey, I'm running LTS as a storage box and have set up LIO and it's working properly. VMware detects the LUN as 'SSD' despite it being backed by a ZVOL device. Any idea how to change that to non-SSD?
[13:15] <k1l> hanuman: this are the packages available: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=trusty&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libmudflap
[13:15] <hanuman> k1l: when I want to install freeswitch that package is dependency
[13:16] <k1l> hanuman: are you sure you dont have a package made for ubuntu 12.04 or earlier?
[13:17] <ropo> why on old ubuntu
[13:17] <hanuman> k1l: when I am searching in google.
[13:18] <MasterOfDisaster> Or can anyone point me to a more fitting channel? I'm just posting this here because I run ubuntu on the box in question.
[13:18] <k1l> hanuman: see the big "deprecated" on the official site https://freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/Ubuntu+DEPRECATED
[13:21] <ropo> MasterOfDisaster, it's the ubuntu channel u can ask herer
[13:26] <mrwappie> K1l what mount point do I need to use for the first OS 'Backbox'?
[13:28] <k1l> mrwappie: for backbox partitioning and mounting better ask the backbox guys
[13:28] <mrwappie> Good one
[13:31] <Murii> Hey!Last time I used my laptop I muted it
[13:31] <Murii> [15:18:34] <Murii> and now I dont know how to unmut.Can you guys help me out?
[13:31] <Murii> looks like the xubuntu channel can not help me with this "BIG" issue
[13:32] <k1l> how did you mute it?
[13:32] <OerHeks> mute as in sound muted?
[13:33] <ioria> Murii, have you checked  Pulse Audio Volume Control   in XFCE menu  ->  playback    ?
[13:33] <shambat> I'm looking for a way to install packages for bind 9.10 on ubuntu 14.04. the latest version in the repo is 9.9.5. How can I find a reliable source for Ubuntu packages other than the defaults from Canonical?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> !latest | shambat
[13:35] <k1l> shambat: look if there are some in the backports repo or look on launchpad.net for a ppa
[13:35] <shambat> is there a way to see what package versions are planned for the next LTS-release?
[13:35] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9
[13:35] <OerHeks> also 9.9.5
[13:37] <adventure> hey guys new here
[13:37] <ioria> https://launchpad.net/~jff-de/+archive/ubuntu/bind9-9.10
[13:37] <shambat> OerHeks: so Xenial, or 16.04 LTS will also use 9.9.5?
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> adventure: welcome, you joined an ubuntu support channel
[13:39] <OerHeks> shambat, yes, so build it yourself or just use a PPA, depending what you use, samba4 and such > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=bind9
[13:39] <shambat> OerHeks: ok thanks
[13:39] <OerHeks> carefull with ppas, use at your own risc.
[13:39] <ioria>  'unsupported' and  'untrusted'    don't sound good for me ...
[13:39] <OerHeks> just tot test, yes
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | shambat !info bind9 xenial
[13:40] <mike3> Anyone here using ntopng 2.2
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> mike3: tell us whats going on mate
[13:40] <mike3> After upgrading to the latest ubuntu 14.xx install and updating to ntopng 2.2 the startup script is broken, and I'm unable to view flows for hosts.
[13:41] <mike3> I can start ntopng manually which works, but the flow data is mising per host.
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> mike3: you upgraded wich to wich?
[13:41] <OerHeks> how did you install that? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntopng
[13:42] <mike3> adding it to the apt sources
[13:42] <mike3> and doing and apt-get update
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> mike3: its in ubuntu's repos
[13:42] <mike3> deb http://packages.ntop.org/apt-stable/14.04 x64/
[13:42] <mike3> deb http://packages.ntop.org/apt-stable/14.04 all/
[13:42] <mike3> is added to my source list
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> mike3: its recommended to use the version from the repos for your ubuntu version
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> mike3: wich ubuntu version are you on trusty?
[13:43] <OerHeks> contact the maintainer
[13:44] <jack_> Good Morning
[13:45] <mike3> lotuspsychje yes, but if I run a dist-upgrade which pulls in an updated version of the kernel and various packages that are related to ntopng it will break.
[13:45] <mike3> Let me try pulling that out of my sources.. hold on
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> mike3: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[13:46] <mike3> lotuspsychje this might work. I pulled those entires out of my sources. Running a dist-upgrade now. I'll have an answer shortly
[13:47] <OerHeks> just pulling sources from a list does not reverse installation, and will certainly break something.
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | mike3
[13:49] <OerHeks> mike3, they created also a pretty fine guide to get info what is going wrong http://www.ntop.org/support/need-help-2/need-help/
[13:50] <mike3> Fixed. Well sorta. I'm on the latest kernel now and ntopng works. However it's still on version 2.0 and not 2.2.
[13:50] <mike3> My guess is Ubuntu hasn't released a 2.2 release for trusty yet.
[13:50] <OerHeks> yes, that i showed you https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntopng
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> !info ntopng | mike3
[13:51] <OerHeks> our numbering is confusing :-D
[13:52] <mike3> I'm not on 1.2 but I'm usre that's because it pulled in from my previous deb source list.
[13:52] <mike3> 2.0 works fine.
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> mike3: 16.04 has the 2.0 if your interested, check in #ubuntu+1
[13:52] <w00tburger> can someone help me out with a sed /regex command?
[13:52] <mike3> v.2.0.151021 [Professional Edition]
[13:52] <mike3> GIT rev:   2.0-stable:a6a0601c17e7bb005bd4a6640005a45650702a58:20151021
[13:52] <mike3> Pro rev:   r413
[13:52] <mike3> System Id: 3BFB599700600F1F
[13:52] <mike3> Built on:  Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> w00tburger: didnt the ##sed guys been able to help mate?
[13:53] <mike3> lotuspsychje i'll check it out
[13:53] <w00tburger> did realize there were sed guys lol. I was thinking this just fell under the topic of regular expressions
[13:53] <mike3> But I think I'll stick to LTS to be honest.
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> mike3: 16.04 is LTS
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> mike3: but still in development phase right now
[13:54] <Pici> *will be
[13:54] <mike3> lotuspsychje I won't update until it hits the stable release.
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> mike3: of course, no sweat
[13:55] <mike3> but thanks for the help. Removing from sources allowed me to update to the latest kernel headers, image, etc.
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !yay | mike3
[13:56] <stephanbuys1> hi all, I'm looking at 16.04 and I notice that there are no files in the boot partition by default, it seems to have /boot in the second/Linux partition, is this normal?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> stephanbuys1: #ubuntu+1 please
[13:56] <stephanbuys1> lotuspsychje: ok
[14:23] <x-ip> hi all
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: welcome, what can we do for you?
[14:24] <x-ip> on Monday i installed ubuntu 15.10 on my laptop, since then i got twice the same problem, the mouse pointer dissapear, any clues?
[14:25] <quakephil> Completely off topic but sfw poll http://strawpoll.me/6593094
[14:25] <quakephil> Excuse me if inappropriate here
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> quakephil: no advertising here please
[14:25] <quakephil> Just soliciting opinions...  No commerce or ads
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> quakephil: your not in the right place sorry
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: does it dissapear sometimes or every boot?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: did you mess with grub or plymouth?
[14:32] <x-ip> lotuspsychje: it dissapear sometimes while i'm logged in, using unity session
[14:33] <x-ip> i have the standar install, only installed as extra packages Hipchat, google chrome and Quassel irc client, didn't touched anything else
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: found a relevant bug here: <lotuspsychje> !info ntopng xenial
 ntopng (source: ntopng): High-Speed Web-based Traffic Analysis and Flow Collection Tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0+dfsg1-1 (xenial), package size 232 kB, installed size 675 kB
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: oops sorry: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1453538
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: maybe add your experience to this bug?
[14:35] <x-ip> lotuspsychje: checking, thanks for your help
[14:41] <wrksx> hey guys
[14:41] <wrksx> what could this mean?
[14:41] <wrksx> # vim: syntax=apache ts=4 sw=4 sts=4 sr noet
[14:42] <wrksx> found on the last line of an apache config file
[14:43] <kolobyte> wrksx:  that tells `vim` if this file is opened in you set these configs
[14:43] <luketheduke1> wrksx: noet = no extended tabs.
[14:43] <kolobyte> mostly just say do syntax highlighting for apache, and do 4 spaces for indentation
[14:43] <luketheduke1> Extended tabs converts tabs to spaces. noet doesn't allow that
[14:44] <wrksx> so the syntax is vim specific? it can be added in any file?
[14:44] <wrksx> like a php script
[14:45] <wrksx> / vim: syntax=php
[14:45] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[14:45] <wrksx> hey
[14:46] <ThePendulum> Ubuntu 14.04.2 (server), trying to set my locale/LANG to en_US.utf8. It is set in /etc/default/locale, but seemingly ignored? Running 'locale' or echoing $LANG returns nothing for it, neither are utf8 characters displayed
[14:47] <x-ip> lotuspsychje: i'm on it, logging in to leave a comment
[14:47] <x-ip> thank you :)
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> x-ip: ok good luck, maybe also try to compare installing other ubuntu versions? LTS?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:48] <ThePendulum> MonkeyDust: hm, this is not really a server-specific issue I reckon though
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> ThePendulum: and update your system...
[14:48] <ThePendulum> it just happens to be a server, lol
[14:48] <x-ip> lotuspsychje: thanks but that is not an option, the laptop is my workstation heh, so re-install all the stuff takes me a day
[14:48] <ThePendulum> lotuspsychje: soon
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | x-ip maybe for the future ease
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !usn | ThePendulum dont wait too long for security risk
[14:51] <ThePendulum> lotuspsychje: 14.04 no longer receives security updates..?
[14:51] <ThePendulum> I thought that was part of the idea of an LTS release
[14:51] <OerHeks> sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> ThePendulum: no i mean 14.04.2 should be updated asap to 14.04.3
[14:52] <ThePendulum> lotuspsychje: oh right, agreed
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> ThePendulum  it's now 14.04.3 ... in februari: 14.04.4
[14:52] <ThePendulum> I thought you were pushing for 15.10 :P
[14:52] <ThePendulum> OerHeks: I already did that, and en_US.UTF-8 is available (or listed under locales anyway)
[14:53] <ThePendulum> guess I could run it again
[14:54] <ThePendulum> how am I supposed to set the locale?
[14:55] <ThePendulum> neither update-locale nor editing /etc/default/locale actually seem to affect the locale
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !locale | ThePendulum
[14:56] <ThePendulum> yes, that's the page describing to do exactly what I just did
[14:56] <x-ip> lotuspsychje: thank you (again :)
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  +1
[15:01] <ThePendulum> lotuspsychje: and we're on 14.04.3 :) thanks for the heads up
[15:01] <Xt3rm8or_17> hello there , could anyone help me with ubuntu installtion :)
[15:01] <Xt3rm8or_17> do you know how to get "alongside windows" option to install ubuntu?I already installed windows 10.and want to install ubuntu as dual boot.but now i can't get the alongside windows option when i'm going to install ubuntu.previously it came and now not.
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Xt3rm8or_17
[15:01] <Xt3rm8or_17> yes lotuspsychje
[15:02] <Xt3rm8or_17> ok Thanks ubottu , is he a bot O_0
[15:02] <ThePendulum> ask him
[15:03] <Xt3rm8or_17> its ok this mean the link its just the onaly answer i coud got here
[15:03] <Xt3rm8or_17> then Bye Bye guys Thanks for help i will go to read mybe this link will help me
[15:03] <Xt3rm8or_17> Bye Bye
[15:03] <ThePendulum> Xt3rm8or_17: feel free to PM me
[15:03] <ThePendulum> I guess not
[15:04] <ThePendulum> Does update-locale just write to /etc/default/locale?
[15:04] <ThePendulum> Are there other files that could be overwriting it?
[15:05] <luketheduke1> Xtr3rm8or_17, you'll have to rewrite your grub
[15:05] <ThePendulum> luketheduke1: they left
[15:05] <luketheduke1> oh
[15:05] <luketheduke1> so impatient
[15:05] <ThePendulum> I think he didn't have ubuntu installed yet though
[15:05] <ThePendulum> worst case scenario Windows is taking up his entire disk, but even that often isn't a problem
[15:06] <luketheduke1> Yeah, the partition could probably be resized
[15:06] <ThePendulum> guess we'll never know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:06] <luketheduke1> It's a shame that wubi isn't an option anymore
[15:06] <luketheduke1> That was perfect for noobs
[15:07] <BluesKaj> luketheduke1, wubi was horrible , not a real linux install
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> luketheduke1  you're the first here, who likes wubi
[15:07] <BluesKaj> a VM is much better
[15:07] <luketheduke1> True. But it was a fake linux install, which is great for people learning
[15:07] <ThePendulum> I would've gladly helped him through partitioning or whatever he needed to do, but if he's going to ragequit, that's on him, lol
[15:08] <ThePendulum> I can export LANG and set it to something, and that works fine. Absolutely no idea how to make that persistent though
[15:15] <x-ip> ThePendulum: to make persistent your change, add it to your /home/user/.bashrc file
[15:16] <x-ip> with a line like: export FOO="bar"
[15:20] <geirha> environment variables should go in ~/.pam_environment or ~/.profile
[15:21] <ThePendulum> these should be system-wide though
[15:22] <ThePendulum> do I need to load .pam_environment in any way?
[15:22] <Craigwell> I've seen conflicting info on a couple items, regarding automounting a drive at start up, and enabling hibernation on a laptop with SSD.. I'm hoping to do both on a 14.04 box
[15:22] <ThePendulum> even logging in again, it's still ignored
[15:22] <Craigwell> I understand a swap isn't the best on SSD, but would it be used at all if I had enough ram, and only wanted to use for hibernation? I've tried following a couple guides to enable, wont work.. swap partition is there, but I can't get 14.04 to use it
[15:22] <geirha> for setting LANG system-wide, /etc/default/locale is the place
[15:23] <geirha> ThePendulum: .pam_environment is automatically read when you log in, by a PAM module.
[15:23] <Craigwell> also no luck on the drive automount
[15:23] <ThePendulum> geirha: no luck there either then :S odd
[15:23] <ThePendulum> it just remains blank
[15:24] <geirha> ThePendulum: try this:   PS4='+ $BASH_SOURCE:$LINENO:' bash -xlic ''
[15:24] <ioria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent_environment_variables
[15:24] <rikonor> hey folks, I'm on debian jessie and am trying to run phantomjs (it requires libjpeg8). I'v noticed that lib is not available for jessie. Is there anything I can do to get it or is it basically impossible?
[15:24] <geirha> ThePendulum: See if any LANG or LC_* variables get set anywhere
[15:24] <geirha> ThePendulum: wait, blank?
[15:24] <geirha> ThePendulum: Note that opening a new terminal does not count as logging in
[15:24] <ThePendulum> geirha: when I run locale or echo $LANG, both are blank
[15:25] <ThePendulum> a new SSH session though?
[15:25] <geirha> a new ssh session should count as a login yes
[15:25] <ThePendulum> geirha: oof let me write that to a file, that's a ton of output
[15:25] <hrob> hi all
[15:25] <ThePendulum> 'lo
[15:25] <hrob> can anyone help me with figuring out xrandr on ubuntu
[15:25] <hrob> ask to ask
[15:26] <Jodiv> + for me!!!!
[15:26] <hrob> ok, so its this... how do I find out which package contains the xrandr  executable
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> hrob  tip: arandr is a gui for xrandr
[15:26] <hrob> there are loads of xrandr lib packages... but those are not the exec right?
[15:27] <Jodiv> this linux mans ???
[15:27] <hrob> MonkeyDust: cool, but I'm doing stupid things with bash
[15:27] <Jodiv> + for all!!!!!
[15:27] <lotuspsychje> Jodiv: stop that please
[15:27] <hrob> Jodiv: not legible
[15:28] <zykotick9> hrob: xrandr probably comes from the package x11-xserver-utils
[15:28] <Jodiv> linux???
[15:28] <ioria> hrob,  dpkg -S /usr/bin/xrandr
[15:28] <hrob> zykotick9:  thanks...  but do you think apt can tell me any details?
[15:28] <hrob> ioria:  cheers!
[15:29] <zykotick9> hrob: i used ioria's suggestion to give you that info ;)
[15:29] <ioria> ^_°
[15:29] <k1l> Jodiv: this is the ubuntu support channel. do you have a ubuntu support question?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Jodiv  this is the ubuntu support channel ... ask your question or keep silent and learn by reading
[15:29] <hrob> ironGiant: zykotick9 :  wow,   that was it... thanks!
[15:29] <hrob> zykotick9:  ioria : i mean
[15:30] <ioria> hrob,  like MonkeyDust said  arandr is a nice gui to use
[15:30] <hrob> zykotick9: ioria :  ok now one more...   can I find out if x11-xserver-utils   is a default package?
[15:30] <topi1> hello
[15:30] <ioria> hrob,  dpkg -l  x11-xserver-utils
[15:30] <hrob> ioria:   yeah I will try it... but I'm bash scripting too
[15:31] <zykotick9> hrob: default package?  depends how you installed - i'd suspect if you used the a regular desktop install, it would be... from server or mini - maybe not...
[15:31] <ioria> hrob,   what you mean with 'default' ?
[15:31] <hrob> zykotick9: ioria :  yeah... I realize I didn't know what I meant
[15:31] <ioria> hrob,  you can use   apt-cache policy   x11-xserver-utils     to get infos
[15:31] <hrob> zykotick9: ioria :    yes.. I suppose people doing vanillar desktop install
[15:32] <hrob> not server
[15:32] <Jodiv> aaa is ok !!!! more i not have ubuntu more now it play one again!!!!
[15:32] <Jodiv> ok no problem!!!!
[15:33] <hrob> ioria: zykotick9 :  I guess for safety I ask people to install x11-server-utils    ... its not clear if it is default or if it is normally default
[15:33] <ioria> hrob,  xrandr if i'm not wrong, does not work in cli environment
[15:33] <ThePendulum> geirha: seems like setting it in .profile did the trick at last
[15:33] <zykotick9> !info x11-xserver-utils
[15:33] <haruspexxxx> hm
[15:33] <zykotick9> hrob: from that ubottu output above, it's "optional"
[15:33] <ThePendulum> geirha: although it is set now, still doesn't seem like it's display properly D:
[15:34] <ioria> hrob,  (x)randr    the'x' means for X server
[15:34] <hrob> ioria:   you mean like ... connecting to xserver?
[15:34] <ioria> yes
[15:34] <hrob> ioria:   I found out I can run xrandr   on a remote machine and it talks to my local x server... ssh -X
[15:34] <ThePendulum> geirha: that is so weird, it only works when I explicitly export LANG
[15:34] <ioria> oh, yes if X runs
[15:34] <Craigwell> 14.04.. Trying to automount a volume at boot. A couple walkthrough's I've tried don't work. Can anyone help?
[15:35] <hrob> ioria:  also   xinput does that...
[15:35] <geirha> ThePendulum: What do you mean display properly?
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> Craigwell  in /etc/fstab
[15:35] <ioria> yes
[15:35] <ThePendulum> Craigwell: what's your fstab like?
[15:35] <ThePendulum> geirha: display utf8 characters
[15:35] <hrob> ioria:  so those tools can only I think communcate with the current display
[15:35] <geirha> ThePendulum: You need both the LANG variable and the terminal emulator to use utf8
[15:36] <hrob> ioria:  if its called display, right?  :0.0
[15:36] <ioria> hrob,  yes, sometimes you need to export it
[15:37] <ioria> hrob,  like export DISPLAY=ip:0.0 or 0.1
[15:37] <geirha> ThePendulum: which terminal emulator are you using? putty?
[15:37] <k1l> !br | Jodiv
[15:37] <hrob> ioria: what I would love is a working x11 binding for python --  or something that simplifies the he** out of it.
[15:37] <Craigwell> ThePendulum: No entry for the volume there. It's FAT32 if it matters
[15:37] <Jodiv> yes
[15:38] <ThePendulum> Craigwell: I'm confused. You followed several walkthroughs; were did you put any entries to mount the volume then?
[15:38] <ThePendulum> geirha: GNOME Terminal
[15:38] <ioria> hrob,  you mean gtkPy  ot the python shell ?
[15:38] <ThePendulum> geirha: and that fully supports it
[15:38] <ThePendulum> geirha: as I said, exporting the LANG works fine
[15:38] <ThePendulum> I just can't get it to be persistent
[15:38] <Craigwell> ThePendulum: One wanted me to do it through Disks http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/mount-partitions-automatically-ubuntu-14-04/
[15:39] <Craigwell> it didn't work, even accounting for the bug
[15:39] <geirha> ThePendulum: it's either  LANG=en_US.UTF-8   in .pam_environment,  or export LANG=en_US.UTF-8  in ~/.profile
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | start here
[15:39] <darkoreo> i want some help with a tool in Bckbox. anyone know where to refer?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | Craigwell start here
[15:39] <geirha> ThePendulum: With .pam_environment it's important that you only set KEY=VALUE, because it's not parsed as a shell script. With .profile, you need to use the export command
[15:39] <Jodiv> k1l what is this a problem?????
[15:39] <ThePendulum> geirha: aaaah the export did it, thanks
[15:40] <ThePendulum> in profile
[15:40] <k1l> Jodiv: your english doesnt make sense. but please keep this channel now clear for ubuntu support. use ##linux for general linux questions
[15:40] <Craigwell> Ok.. I didn't stumble on one that directly involved editing fstab. Will do.. thank you
[15:41] <ThePendulum> geirha: thanks a lot :) no idea what changed for this to be suddenly necessary, but at least I got my chars back again
[15:41] <geirha> ThePendulum: still odd that /etc/default/local and .pam_environment gets ignored though
[15:41] <Craigwell> looks like this is a better guide. Sorry.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[15:42] <geirha> *locale
[15:42] <MediocreNut> Hey i have a question, and im not sure how to go about fixing it.
[15:42] <ThePendulum> geirha: yeah, does /etc/default/local require an export as well, or?
[15:42] <ThePendulum> because it's definitely defined there
[15:43] <geirha> ThePendulum: no, it's not a script either, so no export
[15:43] <MediocreNut> I just installed ubuntu 15.10 the other day. Now it wont recognize ethernet cables
[15:43] <MediocreNut> Not sure where to begin
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> MediocreNut  is this your first ubuntu installation?
[15:46] <MediocreNut> MonkeyDust: no, i've been running it for awhile just cant get this to work for some reason
[15:46] <ioria> MediocreNut, you can start with sudo lshw -C Network
[15:47] <MediocreNut> the odd thing is
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> MediocreNut  nothing disturbing or unusal, when you type this     ip route
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> ?
[15:48] <MediocreNut> ifconfig shows that i get an ip address on ethernet
[15:48] <MediocreNut> on wlp3s0
[15:48] <MediocreNut> whats that pastebin program again
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> pastebinit
[15:48] <MediocreNut> that uploads/gives you a link
[15:48] <MediocreNut> thanks
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> MediocreNut  also: ip route | grep eth
[15:50] <MediocreNut> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14590766/ the ip route | grep eth0 shows nothing, although: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14590771/
[15:50] <ioria> i think 15.10 renamed eth0 with wlp3s0
[15:50] <MediocreNut> seems that way
[15:51] <ioria> MediocreNut,  do you have a static or dhcp connection ?
[15:51] <MediocreNut> dhcp
[15:52] <Craigwell> ThePendulum: Ok, I followed this guide and sucessfully auto mounted the partition, but Dropbox still doesn't link to it for some reason on startup
[15:52] <ioria> MediocreNut, enp0s25    is the ethernet  ... what is wlp3s0  ?   usb adapter ?
[15:53] <Craigwell> ThePendulum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[15:53] <Craigwell> Do I need systemwide or something?
[15:53] <giovanni_> ciao a tutti
[15:53] <Craigwell> my dropbox is linked to a folder on the drive I'm automounting
[15:54] <MediocreNut> nope, wlp3s0 looks to be ethernet adapter
[15:54] <Craigwell> Usually I have to exit dropbox on start. mount the drive at start up in nautilus, and then reload dropbox and it's fine. I'm trying to eliminate this
[15:54] <ThePendulum> Craigwell: you reconfigured Dropbox to the mount path?
[15:55] <ioria> MediocreNut, sudo lshw -C Network
[15:55] <gateshwill> did you guys know taylor swift is using ubuntu on her apple mac laptop? looks like this ubuntu thing has legs!!!
[15:55] <ThePendulum> to /mnt/whateverfolder
[15:55] <ThePendulum> gateshwill: where did you gather that?
[15:55] <Craigwell> ThePendulum I guess that's the easiest way.. I'll give that a shot
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> gateshwill  nice, but not for this channel ... take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:55] <ThePendulum> Craigwell: not sure what else you're attempting
[15:56] <MediocreNut> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14590802/
[15:56] <ioria> MediocreNut,   your gateway seems to be 192.168.50.12 ,   but your ip is 192.168.49.191
[15:56] <Craigwell> ThePendulum. I think the mount point using the guide has changed from when I manually was mounting through nautilus.
[15:56] <ioria> MediocreNut, wlp3s0   is the wifi
[15:57] <Craigwell> ThePendulum: Thinking it's easier to relink the dropbox account to automount mount point, than trying to modify the command to automount to change mount point
[15:57] <MediocreNut> yeah i see that now
[15:57] <Craigwell> ..if that makes any sense
[15:57] <ioria> MediocreNut,    enp0s25  is the cabled
[15:57] <MediocreNut> so enp0s25 is the eth0
[15:57] <ThePendulum> Craigwell: no, and I have no idea what you're doing rofl, show me your fstab
[15:57] <ioria> yep
[15:57] <MediocreNut> yeah
[15:57] <MediocreNut> so how do i get it working :p
[15:58] <ioria> MediocreNut,   open 'Edit Connection' and configure your ethernet  card
[15:59] <ioria> MediocreNut,  maybe you'll need to ifdown your wifi   ....
[15:59] <Craigwell> ThePendulum: I think I have it sorted out. Basically the mount point for the partition I'm interested in changed with the automount configuration from when I was mounting manually via Nautilus. I just changed Dropbox setting and I think that's it
[15:59] <MediocreNut> as in set a static ip and see if that works?
[15:59] <ioria> yep
[15:59] <ioria> MediocreNut,  ip  255.255.255.0  gateway    -> dns
[16:01] <ioria> MediocreNut,  for dns 8.8.8.8 would be fine
[16:02] <ThatNonny> Holy damn, do so many people actually use ubuntu?
[16:02] <MediocreNut> ok, i set a static ip
[16:02] <ThatNonny> Insane
[16:02] <ThatNonny> Use a real distro, mates
[16:02] <ThatNonny> Ubuntu is so bloated you might as well use Win 10
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> ThatNonny  do you have a support question?
[16:03] <MediocreNut> ioria: My wired connectiong still just shows that the cable is unplugged
[16:03] <docmur> Does anyone know how pass random data into apg so I don't have to enter it via STDIN, I tried: apg -s -a 1 -m 255 -n 1 -M SNCL -c hiyahiyahiyahiya  but it didn't work
[16:03] <ioria> MediocreNut,   ifconfig    ?
[16:03] <Craigwell> Ok, on to the next challenge: I'm trying to enable hibernation on 14.04, with an SSD. I have been trying to edit fstab in this, but it's not working. I have the swap partition present, ubuntu just wont use it
[16:03] <MediocreNut> still the same, cable shows uplugged
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> docmur  what are you doing and trying to achieve
[16:04] <adourado> My "v" key stopped working out of nowhere. It works on capslock and with shift and with other modifiers, but the key itself doesn't input the proper character anywhere
[16:04] <Craigwell> I've been reading swap is not advisable with SSD. I have plenty of ram, and only wish to use for hibernation. is this advisable?
[16:04] <luketheduke1> Craigwell, is your swap space at least the size of your ram? Is it labeled as swap in gparted?
[16:04] <adourado> Anyone ever saw that?
[16:04] <Craigwell> luketheduke1: Yes to both
[16:04] <docmur> I want to run the command from a bash script, so I have to be able to pass in the random data
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> adourado  maybe a case of GKE (greasy keyboard error)
[16:04] <adourado> MonkeyDust: not a hardware problem, works with modifiers and works out of unity/gnome
[16:05] <adourado> on xfce, for instance, and on the terminal
[16:05] <zykotick9> Craigwell: are you using "encrypted home"?
[16:05] <Craigwell> zykotick9: I don't think I did... how do i check?
[16:06] <Craigwell> luketheduke1: wait now.. It was labelled swap in disks, but not formatted swap in gparted .. Just did that now and rebooting to try again..
[16:06] <zykotick9> Craigwell: i wouldn't know how to check.  it would have been something you selected during install.  if you "don't think i did" then you probably didn't ;)  just asking because it breaks hibernation (by default).
[16:06] <mcphail> adourado: have you accidently bound "v" to an action, or remapped it?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> docmur  if you don't get answer here, try in #bash
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> an answer*
[16:07] <Craigwell> zykotick9: I know it's disabled by default in 14.04, and I've reenabled it before, but this is the first time with ssd. I think it's because install didn't format the partition as swap at install. I might have resolved.. rebooting now to check
[16:09] <Craigwell> both my hibernate issue and automount resolved. Thanks guys
[16:10] <jdwwatts> i like xfce
[16:10] <Craigwell> Last question I have involves the SSD.. I understand swap isn't advisable with SSD due to number of writes.. is there a way to limit its use strictly to hibernation?
[16:10] <Craigwell> or does it matter as long as I have enough ram that OS doesn't need swap?
[16:11] <zykotick9> Craigwell: how long do you intend for your SSD to last?  i've run swap on SSDs for years, and have yet to have an issue. YMMV
[16:11] <OerHeks> one can reduce swapiness, but whitespots are old bugs indeed
[16:13] <Craigwell> zykotick9: It's brand new, kingston 240gb.. as long as I don't prematurely wear it out it doesn't matter
[16:14] <zykotick9> Craigwell: well, feel free to configure it to reduce as many writes as possible... but i honestly think it's a waste of time/speed (but that's just _my_ opinion, others may disagree) ;)
[16:15] <Craigwell> zykotick9: I have 4 gb ram on a system used for the web and libreoffice primarily. Assuming I'm not going to use swap anyway for regular use.. just hibernation
[16:16] <zykotick9> Craigwell: i also have 4GB and "free" currently tells me I'm using 0 swap...  again YMMV
[16:18] <MyFriend> what is the best/least troublesome/safest windows to install on dualboot with ubuntu 14.04 thank you
[16:19] <Craigwell> MyFriend: What kind of system?
[16:19] <Craigwell> MyFriend: I've had ok results with both Win7 and Win10, and XP before those.. Doesn't matter to ubuntu
[16:19] <Craigwell> MyFriend: The hardware of your system is what matters
[16:19] <k1l> MyFriend: should not really matter
[16:19] <rocktop> how can I make cron env like what I have when I login to ssh ?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> rocktop  that's hard to read, can you rephrase
[16:22] <nacc> rocktop: are you asking how to ensure the env that a cronjob is running in is the same as the env you get when ssh'ing in to the same server? that is, your cronjob is failing currently due to some missing environment setting (in your opinion)?
[16:23] <MyFriend> Craigwell, how can I see what kind of system through a command on the terminal?
[16:23] <goddard> how can you upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[16:23] <rocktop> nacc: exactly
[16:24] <rilleh_> goddard: dist-upgrade?
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> goddard  wait until april
[16:24] <rilleh_> But it's not released yet afaik
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> rilleh_  dist-upgrade does not upgrade to a new release
[16:24] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: actually, LTS->LTS upgrades don't usually happen until the first point release...
[16:24] <rilleh_> TIL
[16:24] <rilleh_> Thanks and sorry
[16:24] <rilleh_> :)
[16:24] <k1l> goddard: if you want to run the development release ask in #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  true, that's why i usually advice fresh install
[16:25] <MyFriend> k1l, the reason I ask is because I don't want to have problems with grub or malware from windows leading to the ubuntu partition becoming readable from windows or a virus damaging hd sectors from windows
[16:25] <k1l> MyFriend: well, nothing on the ubuntu side can make you safe on windows getting virus and doing some damage.
[16:28] <MyFriend> k1l, smallest possible partition for windows plus not downloading any apps from online plus encrypting ubuntu partition?
[16:28] <k1l> MyFriend: the ubuntu partitions are not readable from windows if not a special driver is installed.
[16:29] <MyFriend> ok, in terms of resources ease of use and doesnt block grub for dualboot what is the least troublesome/bloated version of windows?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> MyFriend  ask windows support/advice in ##windows
[16:30] <k1l> that is hard to decide, actually. better ask in ##windows
[16:30] <MyFriend> MonkeyDust, I am asking from the standpoint of an ubuntu user who wants to dualboot it's not a windows specific question
[16:30] <MyFriend> which windows simply dualboots with ubuntu without blocking grub
[16:31] <k1l> MyFriend: you asked about interns of windows. from the grub point of view it doesnt matter. like told before
[16:31] <rocktop> anyidea ?
[16:33] <zykotick9> rocktop: configuring cron to have the same environment as a user, _probably_ isn't a good idea.  i'd suggest just learning to use cron properly... but YMMV
[16:34] <trajan> hi guys, after installing a canon printer on 14.04 I'm wondering how can I make the printer spooler status icon appear in the panel (it was so in the 12.04) because it's very useful, for example if one wants to prevent some docs from being printed. thanks
[16:36] <trajan> or if you could tell me how the printer spooler file is called, I might create a link with it
[16:37] <gagalicious> i've done the "Diskless Ubuntu". how can I get pxeboot into a fresh copy of ubuntu after usage except for a folder? e.g. All folders should be "ephemeral" except "Document" storage folder. is that possible?
[16:38] <mcphail> rocktop: there are several paragraphs about setting the cron environment at the top of "man 5 crontab". Have you read that?
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> trajan  is this useful ... i agree when you say it should be easier, more userfriendly ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/457969/no-printer-icon-in-ubuntu-14-04-system-settings
[16:41] <Craigwell> MyFriend: You can press Alt-F2 in ubuntu and type "details"
[16:41] <ioria> !info  indicator-printers  | trajan
[16:42] <trajan> ioria: thanks but I dunno what to do with it ?huh? how can I use your info? :)
[16:42] <luketheduke1> !help
[16:42] <ioria> trajan, check if is installed, but i think it is
[16:43] <trajan> ioria, yeah, how do i do that? :)
[16:43] <trajan> ioria, synaptic > indicator-printers maybe ?
[16:43] <ioria> trajan,  dpkg -l     indicator-printers    should show 'ii'
[16:44] <trajan> ioria: in synaptic it says it is installed, maybe it's got something to do with the fact that I'm running compiz (gnome_session_fallback) ??
[16:44] <ioria> trajan,  idk, sorry :-)
[16:45] <trajan> ioria: ?huh?
[16:46] <ioria> trajan,  maybe a bug    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-printers/+bug/1341562
[16:47] <trajan> ioria: ok I'm creating a launcher with  system-config-printer-applet --no-tray-icon, and that should do it according to something I'm reading now
[16:49] <trajan> ioria: it won't even start... dunno why... what is the system-config-printer-applet for 14.04?
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> trajan  ioria just showed the bug link
[16:52] <trajan> MonkeyDust, I started it by typing system-config-printer-applet and nothing happened, then I printed something and finally an output came out /usr/share/system-config-printer/applet.py:342: Warning: Source ID 119 was not found when attempting to remove it
[16:52] <trajan>   GLib.source_remove (self.timer)
[16:52] <SuperHeroINTJ> Is Mir dead? I don't hear about it for very long.
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> !mir
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> hm, factoid needs an update
[16:52] <k1l> SuperHeroINTJ: nope. its used on the phones and will come to the desktop after the next lts.
[16:54] <ethuhoh> Can somone point me in the direction of forcing a program (crashplan headless) to use a certain eth device (eth0)
[16:55] <gagalicious> ethuhoh: iptables
[16:55] <ethuhoh> nice!
[16:55] <trajan> ioria, MonkeyDust, ok whatever, could you at least tell me what is the command to start printer options so I can manually create a launcher for the panel and manually start it whenever I need without having to go through system settings bla bla ? thanks!!!!
[17:01] <ethuhoh> Can iptables make eth1 only usable by Virtualbox VMs?
[17:02] <net2014> hello
[17:02] <net2014> I have ubuntu 15. I never installed a firewall, does it have one by default and is it enabled by default?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | net2014
[17:03] <teward> net2014: it's not 'on' by default, but it's extremely easy to turn on.  `sudo ufw enable` in the command line will usually turn on your firewall
[17:04] <teward> (and start protecting your system, though the information in Ubottu's links will tell you this to)
[17:06] <net2014> well, doesn't ufw protect me firewall wise when enabled?
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> hmm isnt there a nice gui for firewall as alternative for firestarter in the past?
[17:08] <tj_> hello?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> !ask | tj_
[17:08] <net2014> thanks
[17:08] <tj_> I am a newbie for Ubuntu im trying to set up a firewall, any help?
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | tj_
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> net2014, tj_ also check the #netfilter channel for more advanced firewall setup
[17:09] <lyze> Hello, having troubles with shutdown. Whenever I shutdown the computer turns off normally (usb lights turn off, indicator that it's turned on turns off and no fans run) but after 5 seconds or so it starts again
[17:09] <net2014> thanks
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> lyze: can you press F1 at shutdown to see errors?
[17:10] <net2014> if you have a protected ubuntu system and run virtual machines in it, will you need firewalls in the virtual machines?
[17:10] <net2014> by protected, I mean the host does have a firewall
[17:11] <lyze> lotuspsychje, let me try. brb rebooting system
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> net2014: really depends what you want really
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> net2014: what are you protecting from?
[17:11] <net2014> well, can someone gain access on the virtual machines?
[17:11] <net2014> won't they need to first get in the host?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> net2014: before they gain access on your virtual Os, they have to penetrate your ubuntu
[17:13] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: ahhh, depends if that VM is running service(s)... the host might be able to be completely bypassed.
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> net2014: but again, what are you affraid for really?
[17:13] <net2014> lotuspsychje, even if the virtual machines have access to the internet?
[17:13] <net2014> ok
[17:14] <net2014> lotuspsychje, well, I don't want to care what infor I store on the virtual machines or whatnot, I want them secure
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> net2014: then choose a secure VM Os
[17:15] <MediocreNut> I can't get my wired connection on 15.10 to notice an ethernet cable
[17:15] <MediocreNut> anyone have an idea of what needs to be fixed
[17:15] <PowaBanga> Hi all
[17:15] <PowaBanga> I have a normal printer
[17:16] <PowaBanga> that I want make it run on wireless
[17:16] <sruli> MediocreNut: post output of ifconfig to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:16] <PowaBanga> via My unbuntu 15.10
[17:16] <lyze> lotuspsychje, nope. No errors
[17:16] <luketheduke1> sruli: isn't ifconfig outdated? I thought ip addr show was the current standard
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> lyze: how about sudo halt -p would give you a reboot also?
[17:17] <sruli> luketheduke1: ifconfig still shows all interfaces
[17:17] <net2014> lotuspsychje, thanks for the advice
[17:17] <lyze> testing
[17:18] <mint333332> how to mount encrypted drive when booted from usb?
[17:18] <sruli> PowaBanga: you want to make a printer connected to your 15.10 available to other PC's through the network?
[17:18] <PowaBanga> yes
[17:19] <net2014> if you add an external hdd to ubuntu is it seen as external disk or is it added to the filesystem? also, is it possible to share that drive on the network?
[17:19] <lyze> lotuspsychje, yep. Also a reboot
[17:19] <luketheduke1> sruli: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/93412/difference-between-ifconfig-and-ip-commands
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> lyze: thats really weird, wich ubuntu version?
[17:20] <luketheduke1> Long story short: ip is stronger than ifconfig & noobs should learn ip
[17:20] <Azaril> hello
[17:20] <Azaril> im getting this wierd error:
[17:20] <Azaril> https://gist.github.com/benjfield/4adcf48620da1a8e87ec
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> lyze: check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452750/reboot-after-shutdown-ubuntu-14-04-also-12-04-dell-latitude-e7440
[17:21] <sruli> PowaBanga: you have to configure samba https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[17:21] <lyze> lotuspsychje, xubuntu 15.10 … checking … one moment
[17:22] <Ericsky> does any one know hot to update opengl to 3.3 on intel hd 4400 graphics?
[17:22] <sruli> mint333332: are you booting from livecd?
[17:22] <mint333332> sruli: yes
[17:22] <mint333332> sruli: usb drive
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> Ericsky: its recommended to use package versions for your ubuntu version
[17:22] <sruli> mint333332: the encrypted drive is luks?
[17:22] <lyze> lotuspsychje, oh that could be, used wol quite a bit. Will try to turn it off. reporting afterwards
[17:22] <Ericsky> i am new to ubuntu
[17:23] <mint333332> sruli: yes
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Ericsky how about works
[17:23] <luketheduke1> Ericksky: look for it under "Additional drivers"
[17:23] <sruli> luketheduke1: all i wanted to see with ifconfig is if its seeing the interface
[17:23] <jimmybobsleigh> hello there! I was trying an install and got the message that my ruby version is older than the one specified in the install files..how can I upgrade?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> jimmybobsleigh: did you add ppa's or ruby manually install?
[17:24] <sruli> mint333332: do you see the drive with lsblk ?
[17:24] <luketheduke1> sruli: I know. ip addr show accomplishes that & teaches noobs to use ip at the same time. It's just a slightly better alternative.
[17:24] <sruli> luketheduke1: notice takes, will learn ip addr
[17:24] <mint333332> sruli: it looks like it (sda then three sda's sda1 sda2 sda3)
[17:25] <Ericsky> it doesnt show graphics under additional drivers
[17:25] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, you mean ruby? I haven't installed it, it is the version that comes with ubuntu..
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> !info ruby
[17:25] <sruli> mint333332: which one is the luks drive? or post the output of lsblk to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:25] <OerHeks> Ericsky, correct, intel is good supported in the kernel
[17:26] <mint333332> sruli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14591290/
[17:26] <mint333332> sruli: sda3
[17:26] <lyze> lotuspsychje, thanks. that solved it.
[17:26] <jimmybobsleigh> so what can I do to upgrade?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> !yay | lyze
[17:26] <Ericsky> i am trying to play dying light but it wont let me due to opengl is 3.0
[17:26] <lyze> Hehe
[17:26] <sruli> mint333332: the luks drive is an external drive?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> jimmybobsleigh: upgrade to..?
[17:27] <mint333332> sruli: no, it is internal, the one I am trying to mount
[17:27] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, to the same version as specified in the install files of the application
[17:27] <xangua> jimmybobsleigh:   how about you  focus on your actuall problem and tell us what are you trying to install and what message output do you actually get?
[17:27] <mint333332> sruli: I am trying to mount it because I'll try to recover deleted files using extundelete
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> jimmybobsleigh: its not recommended to use other versions
[17:27] <lyze> Ericsky, have you installed the graphics card drivers from amd(ati)/nvidia?
[17:28] <Ericsky> i am on intel not amd or nvidia
[17:28] <Ericsky> i honestly have no idea what to do
[17:28] <mint333332> sruli: sorry, in our case sda is "external", pc is booted from usb
[17:28] <kat_> Hi, guys, I just installed linux on this computer and got google chrome. They are saying they are discontinuing Google for 32-bit machines in March. What are we going to do???
[17:29] <OerHeks> kat_, nothing.
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | kat_
[17:29] <sruli> mint333332: do "sudo cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sda3" post output
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> kat_  wh's "we"?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> kat_  who's "we"?
[17:29] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, so what am I to do in this case to be able to install?
[17:29] <lyze> Ericsky, erm. try checking the additional software tab for a intel driver if there is a option for intel graphics cards
[17:29] <lyze> Ericsky, that's just a guess though. Never used intel cards
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> jimmybobsleigh: wich ubuntu version are you on mate?
[17:30] <Ericsky> nope there is nothing under additional drivers
[17:30] <zykotick9> kat_: option 1 - get a 64bit computer or option 2 - use a different browser (chromium will still be supported on 32bit)
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> jimmybobsleigh  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[17:30] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, 14.04.3
[17:30] <mint333332> sruli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14591318/
[17:30] <lyze> Ericsky, may I ask what model you are using?
[17:30] <kat_> we meaning me! So, is Chromium going to be supported? Can we watch Netflix in Chromium?
[17:30] <kat_> oh Chromium will be supported ok
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> !info ruby trusty | jimmybobsleigh this is your version
[17:30] <Ericsky> intel hd graphics 4400
[17:30] <jimmybobsleigh> MonkeyDust it's Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:31] <xangua> kat_: if you have a problem with Google Chrome being discontinued (you didn't even quoted where did you get this info¿) for 32bits, then contact Google
[17:31] <sruli> mint333332: ok, just wanted to be sure its a luks partition, do you want to unlock it or mount it? useually recovery software require it unmounted
[17:31] <xangua> and she/he left.....
[17:31] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, correct, that's what the error message says, too, reporting a mismatch with the 2.0.0. that is specified by the gemfile
[17:32] <lyze> Ericsky, can't help you there … sorry. Maybe somebody other can help ;)
[17:32] <PowaBanga> I don't find this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Server-setting.png
[17:32] <zykotick9> xangua: it's true, was in news a couple of weeks ago... perhaps a month+ ago actually.
[17:32] <mint333332> sruli: don't konw, I am planning to run extundelete on it (sorry for my lack of knowledge)
[17:32] <Ericsky> okay thanks
[17:32] <PowaBanga> where is it ?
[17:32] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, it says 'Your Ruby version is 1.9.3, but your Gemfile specified 2.0.0'
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> jimmybobsleigh: thats the whole point mate, you can use the 2.0.0
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> cant
[17:32] <xangua> zykotick9: I don't even have chrome in my phone :P so  dunno
[17:32] <lyze> Ericsky, oh. one moment. have you tried to install the mesa-utils packageß
[17:33] <Ericsky> i dont think so
[17:33] <sruli> mint333332: extundelete requires it to be unmounted, do you have another drive to save the recovered data to?
[17:33] <valerio_> ciaooo
[17:33] <mint333332> sruli: I'll hope that current ramdisk will have enough capacity
[17:33] <valerio_> !list
[17:34] <lyze> Ericsky, try running: glxinfo   send me the content
[17:34] <sruli> mint333332: to open the luks drive do "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda3 luksvol" it will ask for passphrase once entered u can proceed with ur recovery software
[17:34] <mint333332> sruli: do you know by any chance how to check for deleted files in particular folder?
[17:35] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, but why is it not possible to upgrade ruby? or why does it not come with a newer version?
[17:35] <mint333332> sruli: it did, but after df command there is no sda3
[17:35] <sruli> mint333332: sorry i am an expert in loosing data but suck at data recovery,
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> !latest | jimmybobsleigh
[17:36] <sruli> mint333332: post lsblk again
[17:36] <mint333332> sruli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14591358/
[17:36] <sruli> PowaBanga: what vrsion of ubuntu r u using?
[17:36] <Ericsky> how do i send it to you
[17:36] <lyze> Ericsky, Doesn't look like that works. could you pastebin it instead?
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> jimmybobsleigh: if you need a higher ruby, test 15.10 or 16.04 development branch
[17:36] <PowaBanga> ubuntu gnome 15.10
[17:37] <lyze> Ericsky, or use the ubuntu version of it: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <sruli> mint333332: its open, see luksvol under sda3, the recovery software will be able to see it now
[17:37] <mint333332> sruli: how to refer to this partition then? sda3?
[17:37] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, can I assume that 15.10. would include ruby 2.0.0. ?
[17:37] <Ericsky> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14591367/
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> !info ruby | jimmybobsleigh yes
[17:38] <mint333332> sruli: /dev/sda3 ?
[17:38] <lyze> Ericsky, you are running on opengl version 3.3
[17:39] <Ericsky> well when i try to run dying light it says update graphics driver
[17:39] <Ericsky> says i need open gl 3.3
[17:40] <jimmybobsleigh> lotuspsychje, I see, thank you very much for your help! I'll try it that way
[17:40] <lyze> Ok. Then I guess it only runs with opengl 4.0 ... Well I guess we could update the graphics card drivers manually from a different repo. Perhaps that works.
[17:40] <lyze> Ericsky, would be that one: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[17:40] <sruli> mint333332: post ouput of "ls /dev/mapper"
[17:40] <lyze> Ericsky, install it, make a dist upgrade and then reboot
[17:40] <sruli> PowaBanga: dont know why, check if you have samba installed
[17:41] <gagalicious> how do i get my ubuntu to be login as new everytime i reboot? e.g. no Downloads, no cached items
[17:41] <mint333332> sruli: control  luksvol  mint--vg-root  mint--vg-swap_1
[17:41] <lyze> Ericsky, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:41] <Azaril> anyone have any ideas about this?
[17:41] <Azaril> https://gist.github.com/benjfield/4adcf48620da1a8e87ec
[17:42] <Newtoubuntu> Hi.  I am a ubuntu newbie wanting to ask about whether my new laptop spec will run ubuntu.  Where is best for me to ask this? Ask! or Discourse?
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> Newtoubuntu: most machines can run ubuntu fine dont worry
[17:42] <PowaBanga> samba is installed
[17:43] <agathezol> Newtoubuntu, the simplest way to do this is to simply boot an ubuntu live cd and test it out. it's safe and lets you play around a bit before changing anything.
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> agathezol: +1
[17:43] <Newtoubuntu> This is a custom build that I am ordering...without Windows.  Want to get a feel for if it will be okay...before I pay for it.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  a custom build?
[17:44] <sruli> mint333332: i am sorry i dont know, try to find help on extundelete
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: he might mean barebone
[17:44] <mint333332> sruli: but /dev/sda3 is unavailable
[17:44] <mint333332> sruli: this unencrypted partition is not visible in the filesystem
[17:45] <agathezol> Newtoubuntu, well, that's more complicated, I'd highly recommend looking at someone who builds laptops with ubuntu on them already, i.e. system76 or one of the dell laptops that comes with it pre-installed if you want to be sure.
[17:45] <Newtoubuntu> Yup.  I am bored of Windows, like open source, want to learn something new.  Figured that buying a PC without an OS and installing ubuntu would help me learn.
[17:45] <mint333332> sruli: it is not releated to the extundelete in my opinion
[17:45] <sruli> mint333332: try /dev/mapper/mint--vg-root
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> Newtoubuntu: smart choice, but again dont worry to much ubuntu will run on it
[17:45] <sruli> mint333332: it is related to how extundelete finds partitions
[17:46] <lyze> Newtoubuntu, my 10 year old laptop runs ubuntu just fine. Even the open source hardware drivers support it where amd dropped support for the card already
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> Newtoubuntu: sometimes its a bit tweaking, but im sure youl get there
[17:46] <mint333332> sruli: but how should I go to find it in file explorer?
[17:46] <mint333332> sruli: why is it invisible in df?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Newtoubuntu
[17:46] <Ericsky> i added the ppa but i dont know what to do next
[17:46] <agathezol> Newtoubuntu, otherwise your big gotchya-s are going to be the network card and sound card pretty much. get their model/make and just check to be sure compatibility is there. It most likely is, but if you want to be certain that's the way to do it. You can do the same with all the other hardware too.
[17:46] <sruli> mint333332: because its not mounted
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | Ericsky
[17:46] <mint333332> sruli: /dev/mapper/mint--vg-root is working :)
[17:47] <OerHeks> Ericsky, run updates & be carefull, use of that ppa is at your own risc
[17:47] <Newtoubuntu> Thanks.  I will have a read of that.  What is the best way to check compatibility?
[17:47] <lyze> Ericsky, sudo apt-get update    then   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:47] <sruli> Newtoubuntu: to be sure i would go for a intel cpu, and do some research online if the motherboard and video card you are getting work with ubuntu
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> Newtoubuntu  the live dvd/usb
[17:48] <mint333332> sruli: THANK YOU for help :)
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> Newtoubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[17:48] <sruli> mint333332: good luck recovering the file
[17:48] <mint333332> sruli: it just ended not looking too promising :/
[17:49] <Ericsky> okay it is updating
[17:49] <sruli> mint333332: cant help with data recovery, mayb someone else can
[17:49] <lyze> Ericsky, wait till it's done then reboot and try again
[17:49] <lyze> to run the game
[17:49] <Ericsky> okay thank you so much
[17:51] <Newtoubuntu> Thank you for you time, your help and for reminding me why open source communities have the best support. Really appreciate it. :-)  Bye.
[17:52] <lazaro> Hi everyone
[17:54] <gagalicious> i have never used a guest account before. what is it good for?
[17:55] <bigNoob> Hi! I've never used linux. I have three different machines running windows. Is it possible to have linux boot on USB and save data on the stick, as i'll be switching machines pretty often?
[17:55] <luketheduke1> gagalicious, I used it for when in-laws visited
[17:55] <mint333332> sruli: damn no luck this time, and data was lost, because I've accidentialy deleted contents of the wrong folder :(, thank you for help again
[17:55] <gagalicious> luketheduke1: what's the great thing about it? what's the limitations?
[17:56] <luketheduke1> gagalicious: It's just a user that doesn't have access to other users areas & nothing is saved to the computer
[17:56] <luketheduke1> I don't think it's saved, at least
[17:56] <gagalicious> ok thanks
[17:56] <luketheduke1> So my in laws could browse the web without seeing my search history or any of my files
[17:56] <acovrig> I'm having some networking issues: if I switch to a tty, I get a repeating message of `r8169 0000:08:00.0 eth1: rtl_eriar_cond == 1 (loop 100,delay 100)', any ideas what I can do about it?
[17:58] <sruli> how do i add a iptables rule after the last one?
[17:58] <sruli> so i want the rule to be last in the list
[17:59] <teward> sruli: `iptables -A` does this
[17:59] <agathezol> luketheduke1, gagalicious, the guest user's home directory is deleted when they logout, it's temporary.
[17:59] <teward> sruli: assuming the INPUT list of rules, then `iptables -A INPUT ARGUMENTS`
[17:59] <teward> sruli: replace ARGUMENTS with the various other arguments which define the rule
[18:00] <gagalicious> ok. i was thinking whether to take on guest mode or do a kiosk. can guest access nas nfs folder?
[18:00] <sat1_e> what is the meaning of a super user in ubuntu?
[18:01] <OerHeks> ubuntu has no super user, the 1st user created has root priv, as in systemadministrator
[18:02] <sruli> teward: thanks
[18:02] <sat1_e> what is the meaning of sudo and su commands?
[18:03] <OerHeks> !sudo
[18:03] <OerHeks> normally we use no su switch user/superuser
[18:05] <rww> !pkexec
[18:06] <sat1_e> thanks
[18:07] <requiest> hi
[18:12] <donu7> Hello, i have a box with multiple nics that i'm trying to use for dhcp, should the /etc/network/interfaces entry for the nic thats providing dhcp have its own static entry? If so, should that entry include a gateway entry that points to its own ip?
[18:14] <ElorianJ> hey guys, how do I install flash player on firefox?
[18:15] <ElorianJ> I need it for kongregate
[18:15] <OerHeks> restricted extras ..
[18:15] <OerHeks> !flash
[18:16] <ioria> donu7, you mean this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server
[18:16] <Bonn333> ElorianJ: sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
[18:16] <ElorianJ> thank you!
[18:17] <requiest> hi all
[18:17] <requiest> how to configure sshfs it every time it should ask for user name and password
[18:17] <Bonn333> requiest: Welcome :)
[18:17] <ioria> requiest, you use a ssh-key
[18:17] <requiest> thank you
[18:17] <donu7> yes ioria thank you
[18:17] <ioria> donu7,  np
[18:19] <requiest> what is the use of ssh-key i wanted to mount the server user home directory to local linux pc and on exit it should dismount
[18:21] <ioria> requiest,  you are prompet with passwd
[18:21] <ioria> requiest,  sorry, with the key you are not prompted  with the passwd
[18:22] <ioria> requiest,  to exit, fusemount -u /share
[18:22] <requiest> no it should ask user for user name and password
[18:24] <gagalicious> is there a way i can boot to windows client pc from a ubuntu server?
[18:26] <requiest> instad of using sshfs i can use ssh and then how can i mount the server user hoem directory to local linux user
[18:28] <requiest> in server user .profile what command line to be insert so each and everytime it should mount to local linux pc
[18:29] <ioria> requiest,  for sshfs you need an account sshfs -o idmap=user account@ip:/share_remote ~/share_local
[18:30] <gagalicious> i want to PXE boot into windows diskless client from linux server. is that possible?
[18:32] <requiest> my query is can i use ssh and then how can i mount the server user hoem directory to local linux user
[18:33] <ioria> requiest,  i think sshfs is done for that...
[18:34] <lyze> sshfs USERNAME@HOSTNAME_OR_IP:/REMOTE_PATH LOCAL_MOUNT_POINT
[18:35] <ioria> requiest,  but you can use also cis-utils
[18:35] <ioria> *cifs-utils
[18:38] <ioria> requiest,  or  nfs-kernel-server  , a lot of choices
[18:39] <requiest> ok
[18:39] <DirtyCajun> if /media is for automatically added and removed... and /mnt is for temporary manual mount... waht is for permenant?
[18:39] <requiest> but i am not using windows
[18:39] <OerHeks> gagalicious, seems so , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro#Summary with the url http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/ris-linux.php
[18:40] <gagalicious> not installation. it's using
[18:40] <agathezol> DirtyCajun, the file system - i.e. / is permanent, on my system /home is a permanent mount
[18:40] <ioria> requiest, ah,  ok    sshfs  then
[18:40] <requiest> one linux server and linux desktop
[18:40] <gagalicious> i want to use it as a diskless windows client
[18:40] <OerHeks> that would be a ##windows question
[18:40] <lahaugen87> DirtyCanjun, /mnt is also for permament. All my fstab mount is in /mnt
[18:41] <lahaugen87> All guides also show /mnt in fstab examples
[18:41] <DirtyCajun> agathezol: ok so i have 4 HD i dont ever plan on removing... they are in essence permenant. i have them all in /mnt. is there a different place that is the "linux File system by Linux foundation" stander?
[18:41] <zykotick9> DirtyCajun: unlike lahaugen87's opinion, i think /mnt is for temporary mounts.  check out /srv
[18:42] <requiest> linux 15.04 desktop and red hat el server all users are created in rhel server
[18:42] <agathezol> DirtyCajun, depends on what the disks are being used for, if one is /home for instance, mount it to /home, if one is /usr/local mount it there.
[18:43] <lahaugen87> I was thinking USB/samba/NFS. HD's is not for /mnt
[18:44] <DirtyCajun> I am using them as solely storage. 1 SSD holds all OS files and normal /* Directories. I Have 4 HD 1 for movies 1 for TV and 2 for games all 5TB each.
[18:44] <EliKLAAS> hey
[18:44] <EliKLAAS> does elementary OS count as ubuntu?
[18:44] <zykotick9> lahaugen87: "man heir" says "/mnt   This directory is a mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem...."
[18:45] <OerHeks> EliKLAAS, nope, it is a derivate with their own issues.
[18:45] <agathezol> DirtyCajun, well, the one with your system files hsould be mounted to /, your media drives could be mounted to a shared local space for multi-user (i.e. /usr/local/movies or the like)
[18:45] <EliKLAAS> oh okay
[18:45] <requiest> how can i mount the home directory to local user sshfs, i am having around 50 users but each day they are using different systms all are loaded with ubunt 15.04
[18:46] <agathezol> DirtyCajun, if they are user specific storage, you could go as far as mounting them into your user's hdir
[18:46] <DarkKnightCZ> Has anyone bought Ubuntu Phone from BQ inside EU? I'm having troubles understanding if i need to pay VAT or if it's already paid
[18:47] <EliKLAAS> does anybody know what the "best" Desktop envroiment is?
[18:47] <lyze> requiest, Oh so do you: you have a directory e.g. /home/usr1 on a server. now whenever "usr1" logs in on a client machine the /home/usr1 from the server should get mounted on the client as home directory?
[18:47] <Pici> EliKLAAS: the one you like the best.
[18:47] <lyze> EliKLAAS, depends entirely on yourself. there is no best desktop environment ;)
[18:47] <EliKLAAS> there are too many
[18:47] <k1l> EliKLAAS: that is different from user to user. find the one that you like the best
[18:47] <k1l> DarkKnightCZ: better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[18:47] <EliKLAAS> is there like a list of all desktop envroiments?
[18:47] <DarkKnightCZ> k1l: thanks, will try
[18:48] <EliKLAAS> oh i found one xD
[18:48] <DirtyCajun> they are for all users to access. Ok lets go this way. if you installed ubuntu and you chose SDA as your OS. The computer knew you had SDB SDC SDD SDE. you told it you want to use them all indiviually. it auto mounted them as it was installed. where would it put them.
[18:48] <requiest> yes on exit it should dismout
[18:48] <k1l> EliKLAAS: you can install a lot of different desktops on ubuntu
[18:48] <OerHeks> !desktop | EliKLAAS even this list is not complete
[18:48] <requiest> or on logoff all so
[18:49] <EliKLAAS> okay
[18:49] <EliKLAAS> !desktop
[18:49] <lyze> requiest, I guess you could do that with ldap
[18:50] <EliKLAAS> thanks
[18:50] <EliKLAAS> hmm
[18:50] <lyze> Just test them out ;)
[18:50] <requiest> ok no othere simple way?
[18:50] <lyze> requiest,  don't think so
[18:51] <ioria> requiest, sshf is a simple way
[18:51] <macsurf> hello i have problem with cross compilation u-boot for orangepi I have many errors like that: /usr/src/orangepi-bsp/u-boot-sunxi/arch/arm/include/asm/io.h:80: multiple definition of `__raw_writesb'
[18:51] <lyze> ioria, he wants to have the complete home directory on a server ;)
[18:51] <EliKLAAS> wow
[18:51] <requiest> ok thank you very much
[18:51] <EliKLAAS> i found a nice one
[18:51] <anon-kun> hey
[18:51] <EliKLAAS> deepin!
[18:51] <EliKLAAS> lets see if i can install it on ubuntu
[18:52] <requiest> no not to server
[18:52] <jackcom> -rw-r--r--@  1 Yogo  staff    2730 Jan 22 03:42 qgeolocation.h    <—— i want delete ‘@‘. how can i delete it?
[18:52] <requiest> ok ioria can you tell me how
[18:52] <lyze> Yeah I know. The directory is stored on the server and should be mounted on login to /home/<name>
[18:53] <k1l_> EliKLAAS: ##linux for all that non ubuntu support :)
[18:53] <ioria> requiest, i told you before
[18:53] <ioria> requiest,  for sshfs you need an account sshfs -o idmap=user account@ip:/share_remote ~/share_local
[18:53] <EliKLAAS> okay thanks
[18:53] <ioria> requiest,  to exit, fusemount -u /share
[18:53] <EliKLAAS> p.s. deepin was not what i was looking for...
[18:53] <ioria> requiest,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[18:55] <requiest> my server ip is 192.168.1.10 and user is user1 and local linux 15.04 system is officepc
[18:55] <EliKLAAS> i cant send messages in linux channel
[18:55] <EliKLAAS> help
[18:55] <ioria> !info sshf | requiest
[18:55] <ioria> !info sshfs | requiest
[18:55] <lyze> Have you registered an account EliKLAAS ?
[18:55] <EliKLAAS> ooooh
[18:55] <EliKLAAS> on freenode?
[18:55] <lyze> yeah
[18:55] <EliKLAAS> aah
[18:56] <EliKLAAS> thanks
[18:56] <ioria> requiest,  you install sshf on the local machine , but the ssh server should be running on the server
[18:56] <k1l_> EliKLAAS: for issues with the irc network ask in #freenode
[18:57] <requiest> that i have don
[18:57] <requiest> done
[18:57] <ioria> requiest,  then you create a mount point on the local machine
[18:57] <ioria> requiest,  add user to fuse group
[18:57] <requiest> that is also done
[18:57] <requiest> ok
[18:58] <requiest> how make sshfs to prompt to ask user name and password
[18:59] <ioria> requiest,  you connect   with the username ....    user1@ip  , then you'll be prompted for the passwd
[18:59] <lyze> requiest, what about mounting the complete /home directory instead on startup?
[19:00] <requiest> no it should ask like telnet
[19:00] <ioria> requiest,  i think it does not work like telnet
[19:00] <requiest> telnet and ip afterword it will ask to user name and password
[19:00] <_Sponge> So the videos of Mark Shuttleworth , failed !
[19:00] <lyze> requiest, well the default user logon will ask you about the credentials. use ldap then fore unified user management between computers
[19:01] <k1l_> _Sponge: this the a technical support channel
[19:01] <requiest> because i am having 50 user in rhel server
[19:01] <_Sponge> Where is the conference happening ... i.e. Which IRC channel ?
[19:01] <requiest> and user will not setting in the same systems
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> _Sponge  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:02] <_Sponge> ok
[19:06] <requiest> got disconnected
[19:06] <requiest> net got disconnected
[19:08] <FOX2> ok so im having a little issue here
[19:08] <FOX2> im trying to see my network drives
[19:08] <FOX2> at work
[19:08] <FOX2> but i am plugged into the network using a debian operating system
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> FOX2  spare the enter key
[19:08] <nicomachus> FOX2: put as many details as possible into ONE LINE please.
[19:08] <FOX2> im pretty sure that i can see what i need without using samba as a medium
[19:08] <FOX2> you guys should turn off the beeping noises then
[19:09] <nicomachus> FOX2: you're spamming the channel, actually. so put it all on one line whenever possible.
[19:09] <lyze> You should just write in proper and full sentences. Use the "dot" key instead of the "enter" key whenever you finish a sentence, please.
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> FOX2  one line is easier to read and repeat
[19:09] <FOX2> ok
[19:09] <FOX2> "dot"
[19:09] <FOX2> ok
[19:09] <FOX2> i am trying to view the network drives from a debian operating system
[19:10] <nicomachus> Lubuntu is not a debian operating system.
[19:10] <FOX2> lubuntu is a debian operating systtem im britty sure
[19:10] <nicomachus> it is debian based. but not debian. there are significant differences.
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> FOX2  better ask in #debian
[19:11] <nicomachus> MonkeyDust: he's on Lubuntu, just keeps calling it debian.
[19:13] <FOX2> i can see that there is a difference, and in my case it is negligible
[19:14] <zykotick9> FOX2: your perception != fact
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> FOX2  ok, start over, put your question in one line, now
[19:21] <yacine> :)
[19:27] <zykotick9> nicomachus: MonkeyDust so FOX2 ended up asking for support in #debian...  they didn't seem happy when i suggested they needed to get support here.
[19:27] <FOX2> my perception is reality luv
[19:28] <FOX2> forget what they think
[19:28] <markybob> FOX2, no it's not. and don't call people 'luv'
[19:29] <FOX2> I get more support on #8chan
[19:30] <Seveas> that's because your behaviour is more compatible with them :)
[19:31] <zykotick9> Seveas: i actually don't know what #8chan is... but i _know_ your comment is funny ;)
[19:33] <nicomachus> alright... so occasionally, I'll open a new tab in Chrome, and then everything will just crash and take me back to my login screen. No idea what conditions produce it... which logs should I be checking?
[19:34] <Seveas> nicomachus: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:34] <Seveas> and ~/.xsession-errors
[19:36] <nicomachus> nothing stuck out in Xorg, but this could be it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14592140/
[19:36] <nicomachus> .xsession-errors ^^
[19:38] <Seveas> nicomachus: neh, that's mostly harmless
[19:38] <nicomachus> well here's Xorg, but nothing jumps out at me: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14592130/
[19:41] <oskar_> hi
[19:41] <Seveas> nicomachus: looks sane as well. Try dmesg, /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[19:45] <oskar_> hello
[19:45] <oskar_> guys
[19:45] <oskar_> where am i ?
[19:46]  * nicomachus needs to reboot more often... these are some lengthy logs.
[19:46] <zykotick9> oskar_: on earth, i'd expect... or are you on the ISS?
[19:46] <lyze> oskar_, ubuntu help channel ;)
[19:47] <nicomachus> LOL: CRITICAL: We failed, but the fail whale is dead. Sorry....
[19:48] <nicomachus> this is syslog: line 2056 seems to be the start of the error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14592211/
[19:49] <nacc> nicomachus: i've hit this too -- it seems to only happen when i have multiple monitors connected
[19:49] <nicomachus> I DO have an external monitor connected to my laptop.
[19:49] <Seveas> nicomachus: 2050 actually
[19:49] <nacc> nicomachus: sometimes i'm not even able to login unless i disconnect the hub that the monitors are running off of
[19:49] <nicomachus> and this error didn't start until I connected it.
[19:50] <Seveas> nicomachus: that looks like X just crashed.
[19:50] <nacc> nicomachus: i think it's a bug in the mulitple monitor support, but i haven't debugged it further
[19:50] <nacc> nicomachus: if i start up w/o the monitors connected, then connect the hub, it gneerally works fine (although i somteimes have to muck with the settings to put them in the right place)
[19:50] <nicomachus> I wonder why an extra tab in Chrome would set that off, though?
[19:50] <nicomachus> nacc: I've read about that odd workaround before.
[19:51] <Seveas> nicomachus: because bugs in X are not unheard of, and chrome has been known to tickle X bugs.
[19:51] <ttal> is it totally acceptable (in terms of keeping ubuntu updated) to install steam via apt-get? The steam in the software centre wants me to go through a buy process which requires an ubuntu 1 account, whereas the apt-get method doesn't. Are they the same? Will the apt-get method approach be kept updated and not screw anything up with my ubuntu desktop over time?
[19:51] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah, it's annoying, but not so critical to me right now that i care too much
[19:51] <Seveas> nicomachus: try a different Ubuntu version. It may help.
[19:51] <nacc> nicomachus: ah interesting, i got a segfault in X
[19:51] <nacc> nicomachus: in my logs
[19:52] <nicomachus> well, I guess I'll just have to remember to save my work before letting Chrome go on a tickle spree.
[19:52] <nacc> nicomachus: unfortunately i can't be sure it's not because of my out-of-tree displaylink drivers :/
[19:52] <nicomachus> here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1511476
[19:52] <lyze> ttal, download it from steam directly. there you get a deb file. install that one via sudo dpkg -i <file>.deb
[19:53] <ttal> lyze: ok, thanks for the reply. Why do it that way? What does that do that apt-get doesn't?
[19:53] <nicomachus> ttal: use the apt-get method, it works perfectly. I use it almost daily. It stays up to date as well.
[19:54] <ttal> nicomachus: ok, yeah I used it on another system a few days ago and worked fine. whats the difference?
[19:54] <ttal> just wondering what the difference is between all these methods of install, and whether they are maintained and updated automatically by ubuntu whichever method I chose?
[19:54] <chasinglogic> ttal: there isn't really one, the ubu-software center uses apt-get under the hood
[19:54] <nicomachus> ttal: the apt-get method should be the same as the software center...
[19:55] <chasinglogic> ttal: in short yes if you use apt-get you will still get the auto updates through the GUI updater since it also uses apt-get under the hood
[19:56] <ttal> ok great, so downloading from the website may not be the best idea. It may download a newer version with unforseen bugs not accounted for or tested by ubuntu?
[19:56] <nicomachus> yes.
[19:56] <rww> the apt-get and packaged versions autoupdate into ~/.steam anyway
[19:56] <ttal> chasinglogic: nicomachus: thanks guys, really appreciate the help.
[19:56] <rww> so it's six of one, half-dozen of the other
[19:57] <ttal> rww: ok got it, thanks.
[19:58] <iDuor__> :-
[19:59] <vlad__> Hi
[20:00] <stacks88> when you install a package via aptitude vs apt-get, they both still end up pulling from the same sources right? or no
[20:00] <mave_> yes stacks88
[20:00] <zykotick9> stacks88: yes.  and "apt install foo" as well.
[20:02] <geirha> as well as the software center
[20:02] <zykotick9> geirha: all the same repo!
[20:02] <zykotick9> geirha: well, software center _might_ be a bit different...
[20:03] <zykotick9> geirha: being the "app store" of ubuntu and all...
[20:05] <jemadux> sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades
[20:05] <jemadux> update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
[20:05] <jemadux> how to solve that ?
[20:09] <Pursche01> Hello there, my name is Markus and I currently study Game Development at a university. I am making a game as a project and I would like to add Unix support. One obstacle is the very specific way my game engine uses some windows specific mouse functions (setting the position of the mouse pointer). I figured that rolling my own, software mouse pointer, would
[20:09] <Pursche01> be better than adding support for specific OS'es. I am currently stuck at Mouse Acceleration though. Is there anyone in here I could talk to about what Microsoft likes to call Mouse Ballistics? My ideal situation would be to straight out use the one from Ubuntu, but I am unsure if I am allowed and where to find it.
[20:12] <williamsudo> hi everyone
[20:12] <williamsudo> I've gotten into a bit of a problem
[20:13] <williamsudo> I'm creating a small personal webpage and needed user access to /var/www, so I followed instructions on the web and used chown
[20:13] <williamsudo> now I can't do anything without sudo
[20:14] <eb0t> i thought ubuntu was all sudo
[20:14] <zykotick9> williamsudo: did you change anything else?  like your computer's name?
[20:14] <DavidFromBE> williamsudo: what command did you run ?
[20:14] <eb0t> its a beginners distro so they dont want people messing it up
[20:15] <williamsudo> sudo chown -R guille:guille /var/www/
[20:15] <zykotick9> eb0t: i'd bet a few people don't appreciate your "colour commentary" about ubuntu...
[20:15] <k1l_> williamsudo: that is wrong
[20:15] <eb0t> waht colour commentary
[20:15] <eb0t> just trying to help
[20:15] <k1l_> eb0t: be actual helpfull
[20:15] <williamsudo> oh I also used this
[20:16] <zykotick9> eb0t: never mind, i'm not going to repeat it.
[20:16] <williamsudo> sudo chmod -R 666 /var/www/
[20:16] <luketheduke1> are you su'ed into the apache user?
[20:16] <k1l_> williamsudo: put yourself into the www-data group. then you can pplace files there
[20:16] <luketheduke1> try typing "sudo su <your username>"
[20:16] <k1l_> williamsudo: that is just plain wrong
[20:16] <zykotick9> luketheduke1: NO!
[20:16] <nicomachus> luketheduke1: we don't use su. never su.
[20:16] <eb0t> no dont use su...thats only on proper distros with ubuntu you godda use just sudo
[20:16] <k1l_> guys, stop giving bad advice. a proper user/group managment is all he needs
[20:16] <luketheduke1> nicomachus: su just means switch user.
[20:17] <Pursche01> Could anyone tell me which Ubuntu team is responsible for the mouse? My first thought was ubuntu-unity since they are responsible for the keyboard menu.
[20:17] <luketheduke1> if you run su <user> then it switches to that user
[20:17] <williamsudo> luketheduke1, I did that but it still denies me permission
[20:17] <nicomachus> Pursche01: what's your issue?
[20:17] <k1l_> williamsudo: did you read what i said?
[20:18] <williamsudo> k1l_: I need access to the whole computer now
[20:18] <geirha> use sudo to switch user, not su
[20:18] <williamsudo> not just var/www
[20:18] <luketheduke1> geirha, sudo runs something as super user. That's not good
[20:18] <Pursche01> nicomachus, I am developing a game and would like to add Unix support. I am however using some Windows specific API's for moving the mouse. I figured a better solution would be to make a software mouse, I would like to ask some questions about mouse acceleration in Ubuntu.
[20:18] <snufk1n> Hi guys. I just upgraded my server from 14.04 to 15.04. Some packages wasn't upgraded properly, most importantly apt itself. I can't update it using 'apt-get install apt' due to unresolved dependencies. What to do?
[20:18] <geirha> luketheduke1: unless you tell it to run as a different user ...
[20:19] <luketheduke1> geirha, yes. But you didn't specify that & it defaults to running as super user
[20:19] <nicomachus> Pursche01: ok, perhaps #ubuntu-dev would be a good place to start. Mouse inputs are handled by X in ubuntu, iirc, but the dev guys can help.
[20:19] <xangua> snufk1n: if this is a server, why exactly are you upgrading to a release that will be stopped being supported in a few days?
[20:19] <geirha> luketheduke1: so does su
[20:19] <Pursche01> Alright, thank you nicomachus!
[20:19] <k1l_> luketheduke1: please read about what  sudo does
[20:19] <luketheduke1> geirha, that is why I said 'su <user name>'
[20:19] <geirha> sudo -s -u otheruser
[20:20] <ioria> snufk1n, why did you do that ?
[20:20] <snufk1n> xangua: I'm planning om upgrading to 15.10 as soon as I've got everything working. ioria
[20:20] <williamsudo> luketheduke1: no, I'm running nginx and I'm the system's admin
[20:20] <snufk1n> Couldn't upgrade directly to 15.10
[20:20] <zykotick9> snufk1n: sidenote 14.04 can ONLY upgrade to 14.10... from 14.10 you could then upgrade to 15.04... no skipping releases unless it's LTS->LTS
[20:21] <xangua> snufk1n: and how exactly did you upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04? you can't either directly upgrade for that
[20:21] <williamsudo> what can I do to regain user access?
[20:21] <ioria> snufk1n, you are going from upstart to systemd ... can you paste the various errors you got ?
[20:21] <k1l_> williamsudo: where do you have no access?
[20:21] <williamsudo> anywhere
[20:22] <williamsudo> I can't do anything without sudo
[20:22] <zykotick9> williamsudo: so "sudo ls" fails?
[20:22] <snufk1n> xangua: Ehm, no idea how that happened. The info (from system settings) said 14.04, then it upgraded to vivid.
[20:22] <k1l_> williamsudo: so there must have been some other command
[20:22] <zykotick9> k1l_: +1
[20:22] <k1l_> williamsudo: and that means you messed alle syste priviledges. which means you need to reinstall
[20:22] <ioria> snufk1n, do-release-upgrade ? after changing release-upgrade ?
[20:22] <snufk1n> ioria: Yup
[20:23] <williamsudo> zykotick9: no, it doesn't
[20:23] <xangua> Seriously, I've seen at least 1 daily issue where a user is offered 14.04 to 15.04! here's the proof (¿)
[20:23] <snufk1n> ioria: Also, unresolved dependencies is libapt-pkg4.12 and libstdc++6
[20:23] <snufk1n> Can't install those directly either, nothing happens
[20:23] <zykotick9> williamsudo: i _really_ do think, something else was done, besides your chown/chmod...
[20:23] <mint333332> what do you recommend when trying to recover deleted files in folder on ext4 filesystem, ssd?
[20:23] <k1l_> williamsudo: the 2 commands you showed dont touch "the whole system". so there must have been other commands. maybe accidently or typos
[20:23] <ioria> snufk1n, you have a little work in front of you ...
[20:23] <williamsudo> k1l_: I have access to everything, but with sudo
[20:24] <k1l_> williamsudo: and since you cant repair all system permissions you will need to reinstall.
[20:24] <williamsudo> k1l_: The problem lies in that I need sudo-free commands and that it's very annoying
[20:24] <snufk1n> ioria: Would you suggest upgrading to 15.10 before fixing it, hoping it somehow gets resolved by itself?
[20:24] <k1l_> williamsudo: what commands?
[20:25] <williamsudo> git
[20:25] <williamsudo> ssh keys
[20:25] <williamsudo> etc
[20:25] <k1l_> williamsudo: so what commands did you run with chmo/chown?
[20:25] <OerHeks> sudo -i # and your whole (terminal) session is root
[20:25] <xangua> snufk1n: seriously, if you use a server stick with LTS
[20:25] <ioria> snufk1n,  really idk ... you'll need  to -f install  something and  maybe remove/purge  others .... can you paste the errors ?
[20:26] <williamsudo> k1l_: chown and chmod
[20:26] <snufk1n> xangua: To late for that now
[20:26] <k1l_> williamsudo: what exactly? we try to find the command you did that messed your whole system to decide if we can help you rescue your system or if it needs a reinstall.
[20:26] <snufk1n> ioria: Hold on a sec
[20:26] <zykotick9> williamsudo: fyi, "history" might be helpful?  are you sure you didn't run anything else?
[20:27] <williamsudo> k1l_: sudo chmod -R 666 /var/www/ and sudo chown -R guille:guille /var/www/
[20:27] <k1l_> williamsudo: so i would try to give as much honest information if you want to try to rescue that system. if you dont want do a reinstall and learn from that mistake
[20:27] <nicomachus> snufk1n: ioria: found this bug that occurs when upgrading directly from 14.04 to 15.04. possible source of the issue here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/init-system-helpers/+bug/1509816
[20:27] <ioria> nicomachus, yep
[20:28] <k1l_> williamsudo: that would have only touched /var/www and should not interfer with the rest of the system. that should work as before. only the stuff that works in /var/www
[20:28] <k1l_> *is affected
[20:28] <snufk1n> ioria: http://pastebin.com/y7bbUWGQ
[20:29] <snufk1n> nicomachus: Gonna check it out, thanks
[20:29] <ioria> snufk1n,  why are reinstalling apt ?
[20:29] <ioria> *you
[20:29] <snufk1n> nicomachus: Nope, not the same problem
[20:29] <DrFreaky> Ubuntu is too much like Windows 10
[20:29] <DrFreaky> Its too commercial
[20:29] <nicomachus> LOL
[20:30] <OerHeks> !fud
[20:30] <DrFreaky> And it probably spies on you like Windows 10
[20:30] <williamsudo> k1l_, zykotick9: http://pastebin.com/fsfDbq91
[20:30] <nicomachus> DrFreaky: this isn't the place for that disucssion.
[20:30] <snufk1n> ioria: I have a bunch of packages I can't upgrade using 'apt-get upgrade', apt is one of them.
[20:30] <ioria> snufk1n,  why are you reinstalling apt ?
[20:30] <zykotick9> williamsudo: sorry, i don't visit pastebin.com...  best of luck though!
[20:30] <luketheduke1> DrFreaky: The spying is going away in 16.04. Finally.
[20:30] <DrFreaky> Canonical is a wannabe Microsoft LOL
[20:30] <k1l_> luketheduke1: there is no spying
[20:31] <luketheduke1> k1l_: it automatically sends data to third parties & is opt-out. That's not very cool
[20:31] <k1l_> luketheduke1: see the FUD factoid from the bot
[20:31] <nicomachus> luketheduke1: please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <k1l_> luketheduke1: so every browser or program that connects to the internet is spying on you? its FUD. dont call it like that. its labeled "online and local search" so its clear it sends that somewhere.
[20:32] <ioria> !info libapt-pkg4.12 vivid
[20:33] <luketheduke1> k1l_: Yes. And it should be something that's opt-in, not opt-out. Data-mining the users should not be the default
[20:33] <nicomachus> luketheduke1: please take that discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:33] <luketheduke1> ok
[20:34] <ioria> snufk1n,  you have backup ?
[20:34] <snufk1n> ioria: It's that bad?
[20:35] <ioria> snufk1n,  well, apt not working ....
[20:35] <farooghkz> hi.in ubuntu which device file is sound output?
[20:36] <k1l_> williamsudo: "sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www"  and "sudo chmod -R g+rwX /var/www"   then set your user to the www-data group: "sudo adduser <username> www-data"  log out and back in and the user should be activated in that group
[20:36] <ioria> snufk1n,  if you have it, we can try some
[20:37] <Poindexter_> Hey guys, has anyone here used Ubuntu Virtual machine? Is it anything like VBOX or is it just in the developmental stages/
[20:37] <snufk1n> ioria: As long as we don't break the filesystem, I'm willing to try your ideas. Nothing of importance to be lost anyway.
[20:37] <snufk1n> Can salvage if needed
[20:38] <ioria> snufk1n,  cat /etc/issue and uname -r ?
[20:39] <snufk1n> Ubuntu 15.04, 3.13.0-76 (oh yeah, that's another thing: froze on boot using 3.19)
[20:40] <ioria> snufk1n,  yep, broken upgrade .... apt-get install/purge/remove  not working at all ?
[20:41] <snufk1n> ioria: Stuck in a loop going from dist-upgrade to autoremove
[20:41] <farooghkz> in ubuntu which device file is sound output
[20:41] <ioria> snufk1n,  if apt not working you have to use dpkg -P   and manually install the deb packages from ubuntu web site
[20:42] <MediocreNut> Im running 15.10, kernal 4.2.0-16, and my ethernet port doesnt work. It recognizes the device, but will not turn it on
[20:42] <snufk1n> ioria: Lel, was literally asking about that right now. I'll try that now
[20:42] <iRy> hi would need some help to connect to my new ubuntu server via ssh.. every time i connect it says either network unreachable, connection refused or time out
[20:42] <MediocreNut> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14592557/  The NIC link goes down but will not go back up.
[20:42] <MediocreNut> Any ideas?
[20:42] <dar> can anybody here run 'sudo apt-get -s install libpng12-dev libpng12-dev:i386' and nopaste the result, please?
[20:42] <ioria> snufk1n,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid-updates/libapt-pkg4.12
[20:43] <nicomachus> dar: why?
[20:43] <k1l_> MediocreNut: does it work with the original ubuntu kernel?
[20:43] <dar> nicomachus: I'm having conflicts, can't install the both of them O_o
[20:43] <snufk1n> Thanks. I'll be back with results in a few minutes
[20:43] <nicomachus> iRy: verify that you have the correct syntax, hostname, and IP address.
[20:43] <MediocreNut> k1l_: i've only tried going to 4.2.0-23, and in that my wireless doesnt even work. I'm not sure what you mean by the origional
[20:44] <dar> nicomachus: I just want to know I'm not alone :D
[20:44] <k1l_> MediocreNut: sorry was confused with the 15.04 kernel. please run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt fll-upgrade" your kernel is not the latest
[20:44] <nicomachus> dar: why would you need both? is your machine 64 bit or 32?
[20:44] <k1l_> MediocreNut: should be a 4.2.0-25 kernel today
[20:44] <dar> nicomachus: I need both to compile in multi-arch
[20:44] <ioria> snufk1n,  http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/libstdc++6
[20:44] <MediocreNut> k1l_: if i update to 4.2.0-23 or 4.2.0-25 my wireless dies
[20:44] <williamsudo> k1l_: Thanks I'll try that now. Will it give me normal access as before? i.e. can I now for example nano help.txt in my home folder?
[20:44] <k1l_> williamsudo: all that doesnt touch your home directory
[20:44] <iRy> nicmachus: here comes the problem. i'm trying to connect to a IPv6 adress
[20:45] <k1l_> MediocreNut: does the ethernet work there?
[20:45] <nicomachus> iRy: ohhhh. that can be trickier, and I'm not all that familiar with it. My machines still have IPv4 in addition to their IPv6 addresses, and I just use the 4. but the man page for SSH should have instructions on connecting to IPv6
[20:45] <ioria> snufk1n,  or drastically dpkg -P apt and manually download it ..... (it will be a mess :( )
[20:45] <MediocreNut> k1l_: no i lose all network
[20:46] <iRy> this ipv6 is killing me
[20:46] <MediocreNut> k1l_: it works in my windows partition tho, so i know the hardware is good
[20:46] <williamsudo> k1l_: how do I give myself permission to use my home directory?
[20:47] <k1l_> williamsudo: none of that commands you showed did touch your home directory. so i still dont know what is going on on your system
[20:47] <k1l_> williamsudo: i think you really screwed your system before this
[20:47] <nicomachus> iRy: did you check the man page?
[20:48] <mrtAkdeniz> Howdy!
[20:48] <williamsudo> k1l_: it worked perfectly before this
[20:48] <iRy> nicomachus: yes thats what i did the past 3 hours plus google of course
[20:49] <zykotick9> williamsudo: what does "ls -ld /home/YOURUSERNAME" show for ownership?
[20:49] <k1l_> williamsudo: cd ~
[20:49] <williamsudo> k1l_: I'll only be using www though, so it's not much of a nuisance, thanks a lot everyone
[20:49] <nicomachus> iRy: it should just be "ssh -6 xxxx::xx:xxx:xxxx:xxxx" with whatever your address it.
[20:49] <k1l_> williamsudo: then "ls -al" in a pastebin
[20:49] <nicomachus> s/it/is
[20:49] <zykotick9> k1l_: "cd" is faster ;)
[20:49] <iRy> nicomachus: debug1: connect to address 2a02:XXX:XXX:XXX:7d90:be26:46f0:ab70 port 22: Network is unreachable
[20:49] <williamsudo> zykotick9: drwxr-xr-x 5 guille guille 4096 Jan 21 20:22 /home/guille
[20:50] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys there are 30~ computers on our computer lab, and we are going to install Ubuntu all of them. All computers are same and i think maybe there is a tool/utility which backups system image so I can restore image for other computers
[20:50] <nicomachus> iRy: and port 22 is open, correct?
[20:50] <zykotick9> williamsudo: i think you chaned ownership of a LOT more then just /var/www to guille:guille!!!
[20:50] <iRy> nicomachus: yes
[20:50] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: use clonezilla and take an image of the first 1 you setup
[20:50] <iRy> nicomachus: port forwarding / mac forwarding enabled
[20:50] <mrtAkdeniz> By doing that, I can only install OS and other components on one computer, and install image for others.
[20:50] <nicomachus> iRy: perhaps the guys in ##networking could help... I'm just not familiar enough with 6.
[20:50] <williamsudo> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/gKnbrKCg
[20:50] <zykotick9> williamsudo: oh, is that your username?  probably is...
[20:50] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: or setup a pxe boot server and supply the image you want
[20:51] <iRy> nicomachus: thx so far
[20:51] <williamsudo> zykotick9: my username is guille
[20:51] <mrtAkdeniz> MediocreNut, pxe boot server is a network thing, right?
[20:51] <Dinosaurio> Hi
[20:51] <k1l_> williamsudo: you are not in your users home. do a "cd ~" then "ls -al"
[20:51] <zykotick9> williamsudo: sorry, i was a bit slow there ;)
[20:51] <LordDragon> hey all
[20:51] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: yes, https://www.debian-administration.org/article/478/Setting_up_a_server_for_PXE_network_booting
[20:52] <mrtAkdeniz> will it be slow?
[20:52] <LordDragon> is there a way to bring up a terminal during the install ubuntu process? like while its copying files?
[20:52] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: hell of a lot faster than installing 1 by 1
[20:52] <williamsudo> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/SvTfXm76
[20:52] <nicomachus> mrtAkdeniz: depends on whether you have 10/100 or 10/100/1000 cards/cables in that lab.
[20:52] <zykotick9> LordDragon: did you try alt+f2?
[20:52] <Swe3tDave> is that just me or sudo is really slow?
[20:52] <MediocreNut> But again, anyone have an idea of this enp0s25 NIC link down issue?
[20:53] <LordDragon> zykotick9: would that open the terminal in a window? or is that full screen text terminal?
[20:53] <mrtAkdeniz> MediocreNut, I'm not asking about the process speed, I'm asking about boot speed.
[20:53] <nicomachus> Swe3tDave: what do you mean slow....? sudo isn't a command, it doesn't do anything except give permissions to your commands.
[20:53] <k1l_> williamsudo: "sudo chown guille:guille .nano_history"
[20:53] <zykotick9> LordDragon: oh sorry, GUI i forgot.  alt+ctrl+f2 _might_ open a VT.  fyi, it's alt+f7 to get back.
[20:53] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: you can boot to an iso file, that will let you install onto each pc
[20:53] <k1l_> williamsudo: else everything is ok and should work
[20:53] <LordDragon> zykotick9: ty ill try that
[20:54] <williamsudo> k1l_: it works thanks!!
[20:54] <Swe3tDave> nicomachus: i mean sudo echo blah takes 10 seconds to as for password.. and i'm on a i7-6700k...
[20:54] <williamsudo> :D
[20:54] <Swe3tDave> as/ask/
[20:54] <k1l_> williamsudo: for the future now: dont use sudo on every command. it will break your system
[20:55] <mrtAkdeniz> MediocreNut, every computer will probably has 2 OSes -windows and ubuntu-, which would you prefer to do? PXE / CloneZilla ?
[20:55] <williamsudo> k1l_: Oh, was that it? I didn't have permission on www so I kept using sudo
[20:55] <williamsudo> k1l_: got it, I won't use sudo if it's not necessary
[20:55] <williamsudo> Thanks everyone!!
[20:55] <Ghosty11> Having issues getting x to work on my laptop. Went into recovery mode. it says it can detect a screen but it's not configured?
[20:55] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: well are you going to format the hd when you install, or are you going to run windows and ubuntu on both
[20:55] <k1l_> williamsudo: its not necessary most of the time.
[20:55] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: on all*
[20:56] <mrtAkdeniz> I'll install Windows and Ubuntu for 1 computer, than copy that HDD into other computers
[20:56] <k1l_> williamsudo: with 5 minutes of thinking you could have made the proper group and user setup and have avoided all that hustle.
[20:57] <nicomachus> Swe3tDave: that is... odd. I got nothin.
[20:58] <mrtAkdeniz> I'll install Windows and Ubuntu for 1 computer, than copy that HDD into other computers, MediocreNut
[20:58] <mrtAkdeniz> then*
[20:58] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: I'd just use clonezilla then tbh. its way simpler and your only doing 30 cpus
[20:58] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: install it on 1 computer, get everything setup correctly.
[20:58] <mrtAkdeniz> then backup and restore on others.. MediocreNut
[20:59] <mrtAkdeniz> Thanks!
[20:59] <hosified> anyone else experience freezing in firefox when unlocking their screen?
[20:59] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: take your image, host it on a computer you have running. Boot into clonzilla and install from the ip/path of the computer with the image on it
[20:59] <MediocreNut> mrtAkdeniz: then you can install multiple at a time without having 30 clonezilla usb's
[20:59] <luketheduke1> What's the difference in a .vdi file and a dd'ed drive?
[21:00] <MediocreNut> k1l_: any idea on this enp0s25 NIC link down?
[21:00] <MediocreNut> besides upgrading kernal to .25, cause i lose all networking when i do that
[21:01] <k1l_> MediocreNut: you can boot the .25 to try. if it doesnt work reboot and choose the old one in grub
[21:01] <MediocreNut> k1l_: yeah, just tried booting to it. it actually makes the wired connection work, but all wireless dies
[21:02] <MediocreNut> k1l_: its a seperate laptop im messing with
[21:02] <Ghosty11> once again thanks for all your help #ubuntu.
[21:02] <k1l_> MediocreNut: so i would now use ethernet and see how to fix the wireless
[21:05] <MediocreNut> how can i manually bring up the enp0s25 NIC link?
[21:09] <boss-247> hi
[21:09] <boss-247> :)
[21:10] <mrtAkdeniz> Is it just me or Ubuntu always fails on file copy? It is always slowing. It started with 150mb/s and now 58mb/s and getting slow every second..
[21:10] <k1l_> mrtAkdeniz: what filesystems involved? what disk?
[21:12] <mrtAkdeniz> it is not releated k1l_
[21:12] <mrtAkdeniz> i'm facing this problem for years
[21:12] <mrtAkdeniz> and just googled. saw that this is a silly bug on linux kernel for years..
[21:13] <k1l_> i dont. except i use ntfs, or a slow disk thats cache is full after some seconds and that has its real writing speed
[21:15] <love_> I have a Canon EOS that I have plugged in right now, nothing in Nautilus. Help?
[21:17] <luketheduke1> love_, what does it show on the camera screen?
[21:18] <k1l_> love_: see "dmesg" after you plugged it in
[21:18] <love_> luketheduke1, it appears as though it does not detect anything.
[21:19] <luketheduke1> love_, what's the camera model?
[21:19] <love_> eos 50d
[21:20] <dar> can anybody here run 'sudo apt-get -s install libpng12-dev libpng12-dev:i386' and nopaste the result, please?
[21:21] <adria> E: Unable to locate package libpng12-dev
[21:21] <luketheduke1> love_, is the camera's power switch put to <ON>?
[21:21] <vertreko> On someone elses metacity. Recent release. How to change a key binding?
[21:21] <Bashing-om> !info libpng12-dev:i386 trusty
[21:22] <Bashing-om> !info libpng12-dev trusty
[21:22] <rockstar180> I have a quick question
[21:22] <Surendil> !ask
[21:22] <Guest71850> dar http://pastebin.com/dMWFgBiA
[21:23] <dar> thanks Guest71850, that validates my theory
[21:23] <love_> luketheduke1, gphoto2 -L lists all the images.
[21:23] <vertreko> Recent metacity: do I need to install dconf-editor, gconf-editor, or neither to make CTRL-D not hose my Emacs?
[21:24] <rockstar180> I have a old laptop with a failing hard drive. Is it practical to install ubuntu to a sd card to have the laptop useful again?
[21:25] <Guest71850> rockstar180, old laptop HDDs are cheap second-hand.
[21:25] <luketheduke1> rockstar180: It will work, it just won't be quick
[21:25] <Guest71850> rockstar180, if you lived close I would give you one
[21:25] <luketheduke1> USB drives can work too
[21:25] <rockstar180> Replacing this laptop drive is out of the question. Have to remove the motherboard to do it.
[21:26] <rockstar180> The only panel on the back is to access the ram... stupid dell designers
[21:26] <Guest71850> odd.. every dell lappy ive dealt with the hdd wasn't a hard thing to access
[21:26] <Guest71850> but i believe ya
[21:26] <Ben64> what model
[21:27] <love_> luketheduke1, got it figured out, thanks.
[21:29] <rockstar180> Its a insspiron N4010
[21:31] <rockstar180> @Ben64
[21:31] <rockstar180> ...
[21:31] <rockstar180> Anyway, if I install ubuntu to a sd card. Wont that "burn" the card up?
[21:32] <rockstar180> Reading and writing multiple times?
[21:32] <Ben64> yes after a while
[21:32] <Ben64> but the more pressing issue is that it's going to be crap performance
[21:33] <rockstar180> Ahh okay
[21:34] <rockstar180> So if I don't want to replace the hdd... my options are limited?
[21:34] <Ben64> it doesn't look too hard to replace the drive
[21:34] <Ben64> just take your time and keep track of screws
[21:34] <rockstar180> Did you look it up on youtube?
[21:34] <Ben64> yep
[21:34] <rockstar180> J4TFOI?
[21:35] <rockstar180> its like 3 parts
[21:35] <Guest71850> rockstar180, also, take pics and you tear it apart...if you go the replacement route
[21:35] <Guest71850> take pics as(not and) you tear it apart
[21:35] <rockstar180> I was going to take a video lol
[21:35] <Ben64> whenever i take a laptop apart, i put the screws on a table in the same orientation they came from in the laptop
[21:35] <Ben64> so each screw goes back where it came from
[21:36] <Ben64> sometimes they're different lengths
[21:36] <rockstar180> I just really hate to see this laptop go to waste. Its already been replaced already but the specs are still decent for light gaming and surfing the web.
[21:37] <Ben64> yeah pop in a new drive or even better, a small ssd
[21:37] <mikehaas763> I've installed windows 10 and ubuntu 15.10 both in uefi mode on a fresh hd. Any idea why after booting into windows for the first time the grub loader is missing? Happens every time after repair when I boot back into win 10
[21:37] <rockstar180> Are all laptop drives the same size?
[21:37] <luketheduke1> mikehaas763, windows repair is messing it up. You don't want to 'repair' it through windows
[21:37] <Ben64> rockstar180: 2.5" yep
[21:38] <luketheduke1> mikehaas763, more specifically, every time you run the windows repair, it wipes the part of the disk that starts & replaces that part with windows' own bootloader
[21:38] <luketheduke1> thus displacing grub
[21:38] <rockstar180> Thanks
[21:39] <mikehaas763> @luketheduke1 I didn't run repair through windows. I've booted from my ubuntu usb to repair
[21:39] <luketheduke1> mikehaas763: Oh. What are you doing to repair it from ubuntu usb?
[21:39] <Ben64> rockstar180: the only thing you need to look out for is sata vs ide
[21:40] <rockstar180> Laptop was purchased in 2011
[21:42] <mikehaas763> I don't remember, let me run back through it again and I'll post back
[21:44] <toorap> hi all
[21:48] <labba> hi all i'm trying to install an old version of llvm: libllvm-3.1-ocaml-dev but  none of the repo ppa have that in them
[21:48] <labba> how can i find a ppa that hold this version ?
[21:48] <toorap> i ve dont this sry
[21:48] <xangua> labba: if it's not in official repository or third party repositorym, compile it yourself
[21:49] <labba> i need the apt-get install because i have an app that requires old versions such as also: ocaml-base-nox=3.12.1-2ubuntu2
[21:49] <labba> so i can't just compile it all alone
[21:50] <labba> i need the support of the "apt-get install"
[21:50] <labba> so i'm looking for ppa that will have that old version of ubuntu 12.04
[21:51] <xangua> would be easier to just use 12.04, it's still supported
[21:51] <mikehaas763> damn, idk what's different this time around but after disabling the "Secure Boot" in my asrock z77 extreme 4 uefi it just started working again. What an odd bug how it works the first time booting into win 10 but then overrides grub following that
[21:51] <labba> yea... but we have upgraded .. and now paying the price
[21:51] <labba> :/
[21:51] <xangua> the price of what¿ you can download ubuntu for free
[21:51] <noelBE> i would like to install ubuntu.  Im using win7
[21:52] <k1l_> noelBE: load the ubuntu.iso, make it a live usb/dvd and run that to install
[21:52] <labba> so no one know of an archive ppa line ?
[21:53] <noelBE> witch ubuntu version can i install?
[21:53] <noelBE> best ubuntu version
[21:53] <luketheduke1> I guess the one with witches
[21:53] <noelBE> sorry for my english
[21:54] <k1l_> noelBE: ubuntu 14.04, 64bit , if your hardware is 64bit
[21:54] <luketheduke1> It's okay. 14.04 64 bit is good. It's LTS, or long term support
[21:54] <Joel> 12.04, how can I get a list of official packages? a website says openjdk-8-jdk should be available, but I'm not seeing it
[21:54] <k1l_> Joel: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:55] <Joel> k1l_, thanks
[21:55] <noelBE> thanks k1l
[21:55] <platz> having a problem with regularly occuring system hangs, nothing in syslog or journalctl, nothing in /var/crash/, how do i troubleshoot?
[21:56] <luketheduke1> platz, does top show anything while it's happening?
[21:56] <platz> the screen completely freezes
[21:57] <luketheduke1> ick
[21:57] <platz> i tried the SysRq trick to reboot, that didn't work
[21:57] <platz> all that worked was turning th laptop light on and off via fn key
[21:57] <luketheduke1> Does Ctrl+Alt+F1 take you out?
[21:57] <platz> no
[21:57] <luketheduke1> hmm
[21:58] <k1l_> noelBE: what?
[21:58] <platz> i thought about some crash program to capture it, but not sure that will work
[21:59] <noelBE> is there a probleme that i dont have alot of experience with ubuntu
[21:59] <Stinky_Feet> platz: Do you have the means to connect to it via SSH from another computer?
[21:59] <k1l_> noelBE: no. most people started as beginners on ubuntu
[22:00] <noelBE> thanks
[22:00] <platz> Stinky_Feet: I could try that next time, sure
[22:00] <platz> not a bad idea
[22:00] <noelBE>  i had tried win10, but i wasnt so happy about this
[22:02] <noelBE> i saw that ubuntu have alot of possibityes
[22:03] <noelBE> ps are there also dutch speaking people here on chat?
[22:04] <xangua> !du
[22:04] <k1l_> !be | noelBE
[22:04] <mikehaas763> anyone aware of any packages to enable "natural scrolling" on ubuntu 15.10?
[22:04] <k1l_> noelBE: there is #ubuntu-be
[22:04] <noelBE> thanks
[22:05] <k1l_> mikehaas763: looked into the mouse settings in systemsettings? iirc there was a setting to invert scrolling
[22:05] <xangua> mikehaas763: open your mouse settings
[22:05] <Stinky_Feet> platz: Actually, if it is really hung it won't work, but if you are already connected and monitoring dmesg, you might get something... Don't hope for much, just something to try.
[22:05] <donu7> i'm trying to update (by apt-get update) and i'm getting the error: Cannot initiate the connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::15). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1562::15 80]
[22:06] <donu7> but all my nics are configured for ipv4 only, any ideas why updates are trying to go thru ipv6?
[22:06] <mikehaas763> @k1l_ @xangua when I go to system settings -> mouse & touchpad I only see settings for primary button, double click speed and pointer speed
[22:06] <ikonia> donu7: ipv6 is on the internet,
[22:06] <ikonia> your isp should have a gateway to ipv6 networks
[22:06] <k1l_> mikehaas763: which ubuntu exactly?
[22:07] <mikehaas763> @k1l_ ubuntu 15.10 desktop
[22:07] <k1l_> mikehaas763: then look closer. i have that setting right in front of me
[22:08] <mikehaas763> @k1l_ do you have a touchpad hooked up?
[22:08] <k1l_> its a laptop.
[22:08] <donu7> ikonia: the network i'm in has ipv6 disabled. i'm having a few odd network issues going (trying to set up a static dhcp network) but the box has an extra nic that's using ipv4 only w/ dhcp
[22:09] <k1l_> mikehaas763: and that is what natural scrolling is for: for using it with a touchpad
[22:09] <mikehaas763> that must be why, it must only be enabled for touchpads
[22:09] <ikonia> donu7: it's not your network, it's the gateway of your network provider
[22:09] <mikehaas763> @k1l_ bologna. There is no restriction for that there. outta the box macs which I believe were the first to popularize natural scrolling will also do natural scrolling for any mouse
[22:10] <donu7> I see, ty ikonia
[22:10] <k1l_> mikehaas763: no
[22:12] <mikehaas763> @k1l_ yes. If you are bouncing between a docking station with a regular mouse (I have the magic mouse) and going to meetings etc with just your laptop it's extremely disorienting to switch scroll directions. I used to feel the same way then got used to natural scrolling with a mouse and now I'd never turn back
[22:13] <mikehaas763> two finger scroll on a touchpad vs scroll up on a mouse are absolutely no different so it's just a preference as to whether you like natural scrolling or not
[22:14] <k1l_> mikehaas763: that is your subjective opinion. technically there is a lot difference between scrolling on a mousepad with 2  fingers or the scrollwheel on the mouse.
[22:15] <k1l_> mikehaas763: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/234042/how-do-i-configure-natural-scrolling-with-an-apple-magic-mouse if you want to change that
[22:15] <mikehaas763> You're right, it is subjective. Which is why you shouldn't have mentioned "and that is what natural scrolling is for: for using it with a touchpad". Because I can tell you there are millions of people who disagree with that.
[22:16] <mikehaas763> "technically there is a lot difference between scrolling on a mousepad with 2  fingers or the scrollwheel on the mouse." <- no, there isn't. You can think about it as moving a scrollbar or moving the content in the scrolling container (which is natural scrolling). It has nothing to do with wheel on mouse or two finger scroll
[22:18] <mikehaas763> thankfully just discovered "ubuntu tweak" which includes an easy switch to turn on natural scrolling
[22:25] <borei> hi all
[22:26] <borei> can somebody gimme heads up - where i can find full iso image of 12.04.5 LTS (server) to install OS on the server without network
[22:27] <lerner> if you want to help me with a lvcreate issue: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=126665
[22:27] <k1l_> lerner: #debian for debian issues
[22:28] <borei> was looking through repos, and didn't find it.
[22:28] <k1l_> borei: see http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[22:29] <borei> yep im there, but all ISO are max 700M
[22:29] <borei> it's not full image
[22:29] <k1l_> borei: there is no full image
[22:29] <borei> bah
[22:30] <borei> server will not be connected (don't ask why)
[22:30] <borei> what is my options then
[22:30] <borei> ?
[22:30] <lerner> k1l_, sudo lvcreate -L 1G -n demo VG_DATA returns " /run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory  WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.  Volume group "VG_DATA" not found. > I tried the repos but I havent found any package named lvmetad...
[22:30] <luketheduke1> There isn't a full image? That's nuts
[22:31] <k1l_> borei: you can install with the iso. what is the issue then?
[22:31] <borei> huge list of deps
[22:31] <borei> they will need to bring packages somehow
[22:31] <k1l_> luketheduke1: its not nuts. its a lot of packages available.how much TB do you want to burn to dvd?
[22:32] <k1l_> borei: so get that packages and depencies on a usb or cd or dvd and install them on that machine
[22:32] <borei> ok, seems like it will be only one solution
[22:32] <whiteghost> I have a question about video card drivers anyone want to take a stab at it    Geforce 6600 what would be the better driver to use 304.131 or the updates of same drive   or  173.14.39
[22:33] <luketheduke1> k1l_, all of the TB
[22:33] <k1l_> lerner: ask in #debian for the debian issues please.
[22:34] <nicomachus> whiteghost: whichever works. try the 304 first. did the open-source xorg driver not work for you?
[22:34] <borei> well, it's not TBs, it's just couple DVDs
[22:35] <borei> anyhow, seems like i'll need to burn CD with more then i expected packages
[22:36] <nicomachus> borei: and why can't this server be connected to the internet just to download the needed packages?
[22:36] <k1l_> !offline | borei
[22:36] <abigbyte> hello. i am troubleshooting logging for ufw. trying to separate out into own log file but modying rsyslog conf and ufw config not working. any experience here with this or thoughts?
[22:36] <Bashing-om> whiteghost: http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html // Nvidia recommends the 304 version driver .
[22:36] <borei> I got such requirements
[22:36] <nicomachus> !pm | whiteghost
[22:38] <whiteghost> ok
[22:38] <bishops> Hi all, Have an annoying problem, everytime I delete trashed files from right clicking the bin icon in ubuntu 15.10 a files window opens up
[22:38] <bishops> any ideas how to fix this?
[22:38] <nicomachus> bishops: it usually does that once it's done deleting. just close it.
[22:39] <bishops> nicomachus: but that's annoying is it something specific to ubuntu 15.10?
[22:39] <nicomachus> been doing it as long as I remember, which is since 12.04
[22:39] <bishops> mm I didn't have this in 12.04
[22:39] <pmow> Hola.  I've got a defunct process that won't die.  Or more specifically it's dead, but won't release the port it's using.  The parent is init (pid 1) and I'm afraid to kill it.  Any ideas?
[22:49] <abigbyte> hello. i am troubleshooting logging for ufw. trying to separate out into own log file but modying rsyslog conf and ufw config not working. any experience here with this or thoughts?
[22:57] <whiteghost> that didnt help I just went back to x org will try something else thks
[23:00] <Bashing-om> whiteghost: Now a conflict in drivers ? What does ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' reveal ?
[23:05] <happenspappens> I know ctrl-j can join two objects into one mesh, but is there a quick way to combine the vertices of the two separate meshes?  For instance I have a few vertices on one mesh and a lot of vertices on the other mesh.  Is there a shortcut that can create multiple poles so I don't have to make an equal number or shape of vertices on the mesh with less vertices?
[23:05] <whiteghost> i went back to x org think I have something else is the problem
[23:06] <ablegreen_w> I have gnome-session-fallback version 3.8.0 installed. I want to upgrade it to the latest version but the apt repository only has 3.8.0. How can I upgrade?
[23:12] <Bashing-om> ablegreen_w: ?? " gnome-session package in Ubuntu >> The Trusty Tahr (supported) >> 3.9.90-0ubuntu12.1 >> 2015-04-15 " .
[23:14] <ablegreen_w> Bashing-om: What is the difference between gnome-session and gnome-session-flashback?
[23:17] <Bashing-om> ablegreen_w: Do not recall right of the top of my head . I do not run gnome as my DE so not kept up .
[23:17] <ablegreen_w> Bashing-om: Ok. I will experiment with a Ubuntu VM before making any changes on my main system
[23:17] <ablegreen_w> Bashing-om: Thanks.
[23:18] <droolendug> hey guys, just wondering if anyone has any recommendations on packages similiar to this.
[23:18] <droolendug> http://antisleep.com/indices/
[23:18] <rww> -flashback is the "classic" one that looks more like gnome 2
[23:18] <Bashing-om> ablegreen_w: :) PPAs are not supported here .. but you may find this of interest : http://sourcedigit.com/15453-download-and-install-gnome-3-16-on-ubuntu-14-1014-04-systems .
[23:18] <ablegreen_w> Bashing-om: Thanks!
[23:19] <anao2> hello@all does anyone know why lightdm fails to start if i switched back from mate-desk to unity, packages mate removed?? got failsavemode!!
[23:19] <anao2> seems mate-desktop destroys deps of lightdm and unity-greeter
[23:21] <Bashing-om> anao2: What is set to start in the file " /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf " ?
[23:26] <anao2> @Bashing-om not placed at 15.10 fresh setup
[23:28] <anao2> @Bashing-om a startx doesnt help, a reinstall unity dont solve, was forced to resetup new, but must be possible to use mate a second wm
[23:29] <anao2> @Bashing-om after installing mate lightdm changes look and most settings, after remove meta-p-mate X run into failsave mode :-(
[23:30] <anao2> @Bashing-om seems mate places lightdm conf into /etc and unity into /usr/share..
[23:32] <Bashing-om> anao2: 15.10 is systemd for the initiate servce . I have no familiarity . sorry - do not know what to advise .
[23:34] <anao2> @Bashing-om yep your right, systemd makes more problems! cant be purged on debian 8.2 too cause too deep inside the apps!!
[23:35] <Bashing-om> anao2: Just different, change is always hard to adjust too . We are all going to have to learn at some point .
[23:35] <rww> Incorrect. Debian supports running without systemd just fine. It has systemd-shim from Canonical for GNOME etc.
[23:35] <johnH> Hey there, anyone around who's familiar with reprepro?
[23:35] <anao2> @Bashing-om yep i fight since 2004
[23:58] <Guest97094> hello fellow hackers