[00:00] <em> Im experiencing the most bizzare behaviour on a fresh install of Kubuntu 15.10: When the laptop suspends while the lid is down... when I open the lid and restart the computer I discover that (many) *rando* widgets have been added to the desktop and panel. What widgets were there are also often shuffled around. Many random windows of random apps are opened up. Here is a screenshot of what I see (and this is not the worst I have seen it by far) http://i.imgur.com/
[00:01] <em> see on the pannel how 3 copies of a dolphin widget were added to the left hand side. I didn't put those there. Those were just added seemingly randomly by the computer itself while the lid was down.
[00:03] <em> This is the most bizare thing and I am not even sure how to google for this strange problem to look for answers. Why is it happening, what can be done? No one has any answers. It is a total mystery.
[00:06] <genii> em: BTW that imgur URL is incomplete
[00:06] <em> http://i.imgur.com/RCHxldP.jpg
[00:07] <em> that works right? ^
[00:07] <valorie> em: I'm seeing three instances of kate and three of zanshin upon restart
[00:08] <valorie> I'm going to assume that we have something in common
[00:08] <valorie> however, em: check to see that your desktop widgets are locked
[00:08] <valorie> that should prevent any movement
[00:09] <valorie> from the "hamburger" menu
[00:09] <valorie> there is one on the panel, and one on your desktop
[00:09] <valorie> I don't suspend, so I don't think it has anything to do with that
[00:10] <solvarr> Hey all
[00:10] <solvarr> I can't start a new session without logging out of the current session
[00:11] <solvarr> Is there a way to find out where the problem lies?
[00:17] <valorie> em: asking in #plasma right now
[00:18] <kotogo> anybody know how to install bluedevil KDE
[00:21] <valorie> !info bluedevil
[00:21] <valorie> woah, wait one minute!
[00:21] <valorie> literally
[00:23] <valorie> em: looks like it is fixed in future versions
[00:23] <valorie> for now, turn off "restore session" option
[00:28] <em> valorie: oh good, thanks for this insight. You're great. So you have seen this problem also?
[00:29] <em> valorie: yeah i don't know if suspending has anything to do with it. I don't actually *want* to suspend and I *thought* had disabled that. But sometimes the laptop seems to go to sleep despite my intentions.
[00:30] <em> anyhow im not sure that suspending has anything to do with it only that ive only come back to see random widgets randomly moved around and random windows opened after I resume usin the computer after ive had the lid down and i come back to it
[00:30] <valorie> as I said, do you have your widgets locked?
[00:30] <valorie> I never see that
[00:31] <valorie> otoh, I have no widgets on my desktop
[00:31] <valorie> only on the panel, which I keep locked
[00:31] <em> im not too sure about widgets or how they work. I'll check.
[00:31] <valorie> it is a session-management problem which can be fixed by unchecking the "restore session" option
[00:32] <valorie> workaround, but there ya go
[00:32] <em> okay thanks
[00:54] <valorie> em: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358344
[00:54] <valorie> comment if you like
[00:56] <em> when kubuntu is working it is really the best distro for all but the most novice user I think.
[01:47] <rats> TEST
[02:18] <solvarr> Dolphin crashes everytime I click on configure Dolphin
[02:18] <solvarr> Should I report this bug?
[02:45] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[04:37] <valorie> anabain: probably better asked in #ubuntu where there are more people
[04:39] <ceibal> Hola
[05:30] <cosec_> hellp
[05:31] <cosec_> my opengl version is 2.1
[05:31] <cosec_> i need it to be 3.1 atleast
[05:31] <cosec_> to play dota 2
[05:31] <cosec_> anyone know the solution ?
[07:34] <uberdub> can some one tell me why in the world kwallet has decided to set a password for itself, and not tell me?
[07:37] <uberdub> a kwallet password was never set up
[07:38] <uberdub> I just removed kwallet crap
[07:38] <uberdub> thanks for the help.....
[09:58] <Dworf> why kubuntu loads so much slower than ubuntu?
[09:59] <Dworf> ubuntu starts like 10sec, kubuntu like 30sec
[09:59] <Dworf> same ssd
[10:00] <lordievader> Dworf: 15.10? Ifso, is there  a difference in the output of 'sudo systemd-analyze blame'?
[10:02] <Dworf> yup 15.10, need to check when i get home. Just wondered is that supposed to be so slow or is it some bug
[10:02] <Dworf> going to reinstall ubuntu if kubuntu wont get faster..
[10:03] <mparillo> When 15.10 first came out there was a bug in bluetooth (IIRC), that slowed booting, but that was fixed within days.
[10:04] <Dworf> okay, well i installed those 2 weeks ago so.. should be fixed.
[10:18] <lordievader> systemd-analyze shows you what service is taking long to start.
[10:18] <Dworf> okay thanks
[10:21] <jsk> i have problem with muon , it give error if i try to install anything
[10:23] <jsk> can anyone help me out
[10:24] <Smurphy> You have to provide more details.
[10:24] <Smurphy> What error does it give you ?
[10:25] <jsk> it autmatically close the moun program
[10:25] <Smurphy> Is there an error message at all ?
[10:25] <Smurphy> If not, check the file: .xsession-errors
[10:26] <jsk> and the program is crashed a small icon appear in right bottom cornor
[10:26] <hateball> jsk: Is the system otherwise fully updated? If not you might want to run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal
[10:26] <hateball> Reboot if needed, try Muon again
[10:27] <jsk> i try it but could not resolve it
[10:27] <hateball> jsk: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[10:27] <General_Martok> hi guys, can you tell me a good alternative for the editor in windows for Kubuntu?
[10:27] <Smurphy> then check out the .xsession-errors file... open konsole, and type: less .xsession-errors
[10:27] <jsk> 15.10
[10:28] <jsk> i am using it first time
[10:28] <hateball> General_Martok: The editor for what?
[10:28] <Smurphy> General_Martok: in windows ?
[10:28] <General_Martok> nope for Kubuntu. I use it for text to delete textstyle and easy editing
[10:29] <Smurphy> kate
[10:29] <General_Martok> thx!
[10:30] <jsk> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave
[10:30] <jsk> less .xsession-errors
[10:30] <Smurphy> jsk: Go to the end: <Shift>-g
[10:31] <Smurphy> Look for entries that are in relation with muon somehow
[10:37] <jsk> kdeinit5: preparing to launch '/usr/bin/muon-discover' QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 47783, resource id: 23068673, major code: 18 (ChangeProperty), minor code: 0
[10:38] <jsk> smurphy i find this line relating to moun
[10:52] <Maxiride> guys it's normal that the konversation settings window is higher that my screen and I can't resize it?
[10:53] <Maxiride> I literally can't click the apply button xD
[10:53] <Maxiride> *than my screen
[10:56] <soee> maybe its a sign to buy bigger screen :D
[10:56] <soee> Maxiride: never had such issue tbh.
[11:00] <Maxiride> soee: lol, I think it's quite a challange change only the screen on a laptop ahah
[11:01] <soee> :D
[11:01] <Maxiride> anyway I'll try to report it, should it go to kde bugs or directly to the konversation support?
[11:03] <Maxiride> already reported i see https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350608
[11:03] <OerHeks> in gnome i can hold ALT and drag with  left-mouse ..
[11:04] <Maxiride> OerHeks:  yeah me too, but the top border of the window won't go "outside" of the visible area, solo I still can't reach the bottom buttons.
[11:05] <OerHeks> resize the window then?
[11:05] <Maxiride> can't.. I can resize it to increase it's width\height, but I can reduce the height till a certain limit which is however more than my screen height
[11:19] <vylu> Maxiride: It should be possible to move windows with Alt + Left mouse button. What do you mean "it won't go outside of the visible area"?
[11:23] <Maxiride> vylu: uh damn, I was moving it by clicking an empty area in the window. If done this way the settings window just stop moving upside when the top margin of the window reach the top margin of the screen.
[11:23] <Maxiride> Doing alt + click instead let me move it freely and I can move it "outside" of the screen
[11:24] <Maxiride> by visibile area I was referring to the actual physical margins of the screen btw
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:05] <mparillo> When I opened this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347476
[12:06] <mparillo> It was marked as a duplicate of https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192514
[12:06] <mparillo> Reported in 2009
[12:23] <vylu> Good is that in next 5 years we will probably have bigger resolutions even on netbooks. :)
[13:32] <tdkhoa> hi
[13:33] <soee> hiho tdkhoa
[13:33] <tdkhoa> i just install kubuntu 15.10
[13:33] <tdkhoa> my display is 1680x1050 15.4 inches
[13:34] <tdkhoa> how i scale display to 1.3
[13:38] <tdkhoa> \join
[13:53] <soee> tdkhoa: 1.3 ?
[14:41] <oquidave> Hi, just installed pidgin as a client to ejabberd IM server. The chats are working fine. but when I try to send a file to a buddy on my list, I never works. It says  "waiting for transfter to begin"
[14:42] <sithlord48> i have not used pigin in a long time but i don't seam to ever remember file transfer working
[14:49] <oquidave> sithlord48: when was the last time you used it? If it's a client problme, does that mean I could be lucky with another IM client
[14:49] <oquidave> sithlord48: the IM client that comes with Kubuntu simply crashes when I try to add an account. It never works
[14:55] <sithlord48> oquidave:  not sure i just upload shit to my server and give links if i need to send a file
[14:56] <sithlord48> telepathy might have had a fix for that .. im on trusty its working fine here
[15:52] <Maxiride> I'm not very familiar with the KSystemLog app. I've just had a crash on the whole machine, CPU went 100% (as I saw from the system tray widget), and the HDD I/O led on the laptop started blinking no stop, almost always on. Mouse didn't respond, pressing BLOCK NUM key also won't change the physical led on\off. I waited a minute and then forced a shutdown by holding down the power button on the laptop.
[15:53] <Maxiride> As said I just wrote down the time it occured, but KSystemLog doesn't have any red line..
[15:54] <Maxiride> also I just noticed that the timestamps in syslog are 1h+ than my real time.. :\
[15:57] <Maxiride> even more weird is that one of the latest entries is marked at 17:18 when it's 16:57 for me.
[15:58] <Smurphy> UTC ?
[15:58] <Maxiride> should be -1 than me then. I'm in a UTC +1 timezone
[16:06] <Smurphy> Timezone configuration correctr ?
[16:47] <lotek0816>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER lotek0816 uusvykasjjdf
[16:47] <genii> lotek0816: You might want to change your password now
[17:29] <sharanag> i've recently installed kubuntu 15.10
[17:29] <sharanag> but can't play any song in amarok
[17:29] <sharanag> vlc otoh is working fine
[17:29] <sharanag> do i need gstreamer plugins first?
[17:48] <cosec_> guys
[17:48] <cosec_> how do i install wine
[17:48] <cosec_> in kubuntu
[17:48] <cosec_> ?
[17:49] <cosec_> found this https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[17:49] <cosec_> any insights ?
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !wine
[17:50] <BluesKaj> cosec_, it's in your package manager
[17:51] <cosec_> BluesKaj: i can;t find wine in software manager
[17:52] <BluesKaj> cosec_, open a terminal sudo apt-ger install wine
[17:52] <cosec_> okies
[17:52] <cosec_> that was too simple
[17:52] <cosec_> :/
[17:53] <sharanag> BluesKaj: any help for my problem?
[17:53] <cosec_> ty ty
[17:53] <cosec_> working its magic now
[17:53] <sharanag> amarok doesn't play anything!
[17:53] <cosec_> waahaha
[17:53] <cosec_> )
[17:53] <BluesKaj> see you even corrected my typo :-)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> cosec_,^
[17:53] <cosec_> BluesKaj: ty mate
[17:54] <BluesKaj> np enjoy
[18:30] <cosec_> wine working fine
[18:31] <cosec_> now how to do i create a launcher
[18:31] <cosec_> i seem to get no option for creating  a launcher when i right click on desktop
[18:31] <cosec_> :(
[18:36] <BluesKaj> cosec_, click the 3 line stack on the far right of the panel , type launcher in the search
[18:38] <BluesKaj> click add widgets after the 3 dash stack
[18:38] <cosec_> now
[18:38] <cosec_> ?
[18:38] <cosec_> i don't see "Launcher
[18:38] <cosec_> "
[18:40] <BluesKaj> type launcher in the search
[18:40] <cosec_> done
[18:40] <cosec_> w8 w8
[18:40] <cosec_> looking at this part
[18:40] <cosec_> To start/run Windows programs using Wine
[18:40] <cosec_> !wine
[18:42] <BluesKaj> look for wine in the Kmenu , probly applicqations>system
[18:46] <cosec_> BluesKaj: ty m8
[18:46] <cosec_> another easy solution
[18:46] <cosec_> need to sleep
[18:46] <cosec_> its 12:16 am here
[19:41] <goddard> the camera application isn't working properly
[19:43] <goddard> it works fine with luvcview
[19:54] <ejay> Did anyone managed to run in wayland on kubuntu 15.10?
[19:55] <soee> didn't tried
[19:57] <ejay> You can try via sddm (you can choose palsma wayland from startup options). In my case this do nothing. When trying to run plasma wayland via console it ends up with an dbus error.
[19:57] <ejay> After googling it looks like it's something with Qt.
[20:03] <goddard> anyone know if a ppa exists for newest versions of Qt?
[20:03] <goddard> im on 14.04
[20:13] <Maxiride> is there a way to disable compiz in kubuntu whitout disabling each feature one by one in the system settings?
[20:40] <welovfree> hello
[20:41] <welovfree> the screen is frozen at the background image, I'm running Kubuntu for the 1st time in vmware trying to install it, what's the problem?
[20:44] <soee> welovfree: might be some problem in virt machine configuration
[20:45] <soee> liek enabled unsupported option
[20:45] <welovfree> how?
[20:47] <welovfree> soee,
[20:47] <soee> what virtul machine are you using ?
[20:56] <welovfree> soee, I'm using vmware
[20:57] <acher88> just tried wily in vmware 12 and does indeed seem to get to the stage where ubiquity should appear
[20:57] <acher88> instead there is just the plasma default wallpaper and nothing else
[20:58] <welovfree> acher88, I'm trying to install Kubuntu 15.04 using vmware but when starting the vm to install Kubuntu the screen stuck on the background is image.
[20:59] <acher88> 2 secs
[21:00] <welovfree> I'm now downloading virtualBox to test it
[21:01] <acher88> I know it works in virtualbox
[21:01] <acher88> may have to make sure 3D acceleration is not enabled though
[21:01] <welovfree> in vmware?
[21:01] <welovfree> I'm using vmware 12
[21:04] <acher88> no. in virtualbox
[21:06] <welovfree_> how?
[21:12] <acher88> In the display setting for the VM, make sure that 'enable 3D acceleration" is not ticked
[21:12] <acher88> like here http://i.imgur.com/ec8GEH4.png
[21:25] <welovfree_> acher88, thank you it's now working on virtualbox :) I'm installing it right now
[21:30] <acher88> If you want full screen and/or things like shared clipboard and mouse integration to work, you will need to install the 'guest additions'
[21:30] <acher88> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idp46730490379936
[21:36] <switch_> hey
[21:36] <welovfree_> acher88, ok
[21:46] <goddard> anyone know if a ppa exists for newest versions of Qt?
[21:46] <goddard> im on 14.04
[21:47] <smart> Hi there
[21:48] <smart> does anyone know how to add Trash icon to the desktop? I added one but it's not changing the icon if full or empty
[21:48] <acher88> welovfree: tried it on vmware 12 and got to the installer if I went the 'custom' option rather than 'typical'
[21:49] <acher88> goddard: to do what with exactly?
[21:50] <goddard> acher88: to use the new version of qt libraries
[21:51] <acher88> yes, but for what? you can get qt latest from it's own website if you want to compile/develop against it
[21:52] <smart> does anyone know how to add Trash icon to the desktop? I added one but it's not changing the icon if full or empty
[21:52] <acher88> installing native systems packages from ppa etc on 14.04 may break things the need the older versions
[21:55] <acher88> smart: right click desktop > add widgets > wastebin
[21:56] <acher88> just tried that in wily with plasma 5.5 backports ppa, and wastebin tells me when it has items in it.
[21:57] <smart> acher88: thanks a bunch
[21:57] <smart> I'll change my nick to stupid :)
[22:58] <goddard> acher88: yeah i need the newer features
[23:01] <Finetundra> Can anyone here help me with ndiswrapper
[23:01] <Finetundra> ?
[23:05] <genii> Finetundra: Why do you believe you require ndiswrapper?
[23:07] <Finetundra> genii: because I haven't found a linux driver for my wireless card and any ways that have a chance of working require internet which I have no way of getting currently
[23:07] <Finetundra> well internet for the machine I need the driver on
[23:07] <acher88> goddard: if you need a version newer than the qt4/qt5 available in 14.04 then either upgrade to a newer k/ubuntu version that has it
[23:08] <acher88> or if just needed to develop/comila against it can be got standalone from http://www.qt.io/download/
[23:08] <acher88> *compile against
[23:10] <genii> Finetundra: to set up ndiswrapper would also require internet access on that machine, so this makes little sense
[23:10] <genii> Finetundra: What card is it, and what does lspci or lsusb say about it?
[23:10] <acher88> been a long long while since I've needed ndiswrapper for wireless on any machine
[23:11] <genii> acher88: Yes, exactly. Either it actually does work or there's probably somne other issue
[23:11] <Finetundra> genii: I planned to use the tarball. the card is a netgear Wnda3100v2
[23:12] <genii> Don't start messing around with tarballs
[23:13] <acher88> so somewhat similar to - http://askubuntu.com/questions/568056/usb-wireless-netgear-adapter
[23:13] <Finetundra> genii: I don't have much of a choice
[23:14] <Finetundra> acher88: won't help as there is no way to connect this machine to internet
[23:15] <acher88> fine. I don't see any problem with getting the packages/driver onto your machine in other ways, as long as it works for you
[23:15] <genii> !offline
[23:16] <acher88> cab't download on another machine and put on usb?
[23:16] <acher88> using such as script ^^
[23:18] <Finetundra> I'm not sure what you mean acher88
[23:18] <genii> Finetundra: What operating system is the machine you accessing the internet with right now using?
[23:18] <Finetundra> ubuntu
[23:19] <genii> Then use the way ubottu describes
[23:20] <Finetundra> genii: which machine should I be using synaptic on?
[23:20] <josef_> hello can someone see my text?
[23:21] <Finetundra> josef_: yes
[23:23] <genii> Finetundra: Since the one which is not connected to the internet cannot obviously get a package list from which to make an install script, the one which is connected. Hopefully they both use same version of *buntu
[23:26] <Finetundra> genii: so now that I have that script, what do I do with it?
[23:27] <genii> Finetundra: You run the script, which dowloads the files on the computer you are using. Then put them from that computer on something like a USB stick. Plug it into the other machine. Access the files it downloaded on that machine and install them.
[23:30] <valorie> wow, that script would have been useful to me a couple of times
[23:31] <genii> Heh :)
[23:31] <valorie> like the time I removed network manager before downloading and installing an alternative
[23:31] <valorie> pebkac
[23:32] <genii> You can also use --print-uris feature of apt to a file, but then you have to parse it a bit to get straight urls
[23:44] <Finetundra> And as a second issue, can someone help me with installing the drivers for a asus PCE-N53 wireless card?
[23:49] <valorie> Finetundra: is driver-manager not working for you?
[23:50] <Finetundra> huh?
[23:51] <valorie> just type driver-manager into krunner (alt+space or alt+f2)
[23:51] <Finetundra> How would that help though?
[23:52] <valorie> it will download and install the best choices of drivers
[23:52] <valorie> if you have the card installed already
[23:52] <Finetundra> valorie: the system has no internet connection
[23:53] <Finetundra> this is a major part of the issue
[23:53] <valorie> ah, got it
[23:54] <genii> So this machine with the netgear not working, if it has a connector to plug a network cable, I would recommend using it to temporarily get it online by hooking it directly to your router