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attenterobert_ancell: i pushed a branch to wip/williamhua/ubuntu-sso00:06
attenterobert_ancell: it basically just hooks into ubuntu-sso-client's dbus service to get the oauth tokens00:06
attenterobert_ancell: oh. btw, i've only tested the token retrieval... i didn't want to test sending the actual review to the production server so i inserted a 'return TRUE' locally00:15
robert_ancellattente, awesome!00:32
robert_ancellattente, you need to replace all your spaces with tabs. Silly tabs.00:36
robert_ancellattente, oh, my bad00:37
robert_ancellthey already are. I was just confused by the output of git diff00:37
TheMusoI'll take tabs over spaces any day. :)00:40
robert_ancellattente, do I need to install anything? It didn't prompt me for anything01:12
attenterobert_ancell: it shouldn't need anything besides ubuntu-sso-client i think03:49
attentebut even that i think should be optional since it queries it over d-bus03:50
attentei mean from a "won't crash if it isn't installed" perspective03:50
robert_ancellYeah, it didn't crash, but it didn't post the review either03:50
attentedid it at least get the tokens for you?03:51
attentei didn't test the posting the review yet because i didn't want to test aginst the production server03:51
robert_ancellattente, I don't think so03:53
robert_ancellattente, there were some build issues, but that branch should now be merged and in the PPA03:53
attenterobert_ancell: gdbus call --session --dest com.ubuntu.sso --object-path /com/ubuntu/sso/credentials --method com.ubuntu.sso.CredentialsManagement.find_credentials_sync 'Ubuntu One' '{}'03:54
robert_ancellattente, that seems to get them03:55
attentecan you add a printf in the plugin to see if it also still gets them?03:55
robert_ancellattente, I'm about to sign off - I'll check next week03:58
attenterobert_ancell: sure, i'll test it again tomorrow03:59
attentehave a good w.e.03:59
robert_ancellattente, feel free to update the PPA03:59
attentesure, not sure if i have rights though03:59
attenteactually, one last question: there isn't a development server to test on is there?04:00
robert_ancellattente, I think there is https://reviews.staging.ubuntu.com04:03
robert_ancellI never tried it though04:04
robert_ancellattente, one of the issues is you have a 30min window to re-review and then you can't change them. This was changed for phone apps, I have a MP to the reviews server to change the behaviour there too.04:04
attentedoes that also mean that reviews aren't published during that window? that might make testing a bit slow...04:06
robert_ancellattente, I think they are - you just get 30min to change your mind04:07
robert_ancellbye all04:08
pittigood morning07:44
larsuhappy Friday!08:26
hikikohappy friday larsu08:28
larsumorning hikiko!08:28
hikikoand pitti :)08:28
hikikogood morning :)08:29
pittihey hikiko and larsu, guten Morgen!08:30
larsuhallo pitti!08:30
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willcookemorning all08:57
willcookestupid Google now asks me which account I would like to use every time I open my calendar.08:57
willcookeI've only got one account08:58
willcookesigh08:58
willcooketrue story08:58
Laneyheeeeeeeeeey09:04
alexarnaudgood morning all!09:05
hikikomaybe it counts both the gmail and the canonical account?09:06
hikikohi alexarnaud09:07
hikikoand willcooke09:07
willcookehey Laney alexarnaud09:12
Laneyhi willcooke, happy friday09:13
willcooke\o/09:13
LaneyI have https://www.google.com/calendar/b/1/render?pli=1#main_7 for calendar09:14
larsumorning Laney and willcooke!09:14
Laneyalways goes to the right account09:14
willcookemorning larsu09:14
LaneyI think "1" is the account id09:14
willcookeah, nice one - thanks Laney09:14
Laneyheeeeeeeeeeey larsu!09:14
pittigood morning Laney!09:15
pittihey willcooke09:15
Laneyhi hi pitti09:15
willcookewhat up pitti09:15
willcookeso I solved my array issues last night09:15
willcooketook me faaaar to long09:15
willcookethe array was indeed being initialised with zeros09:15
willcookebut09:15
willcookeI'd #define ARRAY_LENGTH 409:15
willcookethinking 0,1,2,3,4 = 509:16
pittiah, statically sized?09:16
pittihah09:16
pittiwillcooke: #define? I thought you write C++?09:16
willcookeIs this hybrid Arduino C/C++09:16
willcookeprobably not the best thing to learn on09:16
willcookebut flashing leds make me hapy09:16
willcookehappy09:16
pittiwillcooke: for a statically sized array, it's much safer to do something like char* myarray[] = {"first", "second", "third", NULL};09:16
willcookeI know how big the array can be, but not what will be in it at compile time09:17
davmor2Laney: did you say you fixed the issue with the text in the scope for online and offline?09:17
hikikowhy?09:17
Laneyno09:17
alexarnaudhikiko: did you reveive my mail ?09:17
hikikoalexarnaud, let me check I wasn't here yesterday09:17
willcookepitti, so I was running off the end of the array and that was making for for loop count to 46 instead of 4.09:18
davmor2Laney: ah so it was a fix for something else then that just happened to coinside with me confirming the issue for willcooke then \o/09:18
LaneyI fix EVERYTHING all the time!09:18
pittiwillcooke: if you know the array size, you can iterate over it using that, and not depend on a NULL  terminator09:19
willcookepitti, I was just using a simple for (int x=0; x <=sizeof(array); x++)09:19
willcookenote the " <= " :)09:19
pittiwillcooke: <09:19
alexarnaudhikiko: OK, take your time. We haven't had problem with our mail serveur it's why I ask to you ^^.09:19
pittiwillcooke: ah :)09:20
pittiwillcooke: but that shoudl be off-by-one, not off-by-4209:20
Laneymitya57: was it you that fixed ap-gtk?09:20
willcookeyeah, that's what totally confused me.  How running off the end of the array made it count to 46.  Probably an MCU thing.  Maybe I just got unlucky and poke the wrong byte in memory09:20
willcookeit was good fun though.09:21
hikikoalexarnaud, I can't find it09:21
willcookeSat here until 10pm last night.  Shouting at the thing09:21
pittiwillcooke: shouting with gdb usually helps :)09:23
willcooke:D09:23
willcookeThe debugging on Arduino is, as far as I can tell, limited to Serial.println09:23
willcooke\o/09:24
pittiwillcooke: expletives OTOH .. one should not anthropomorphize computers too much .. they don't like that!09:24
willcookelol09:24
willcookewfm ;)09:24
Laneyphysical violence works better09:24
pittiwillcooke: ah, yay, good old printf debugging09:24
* Laney remembers our boiler mallet back in student days09:24
Laneygood times09:24
pitti"screw this, I use python" :)09:25
pittiLaney: "boiler" + "mallet"? that awfully sounds like "oops, I flooded the appartment"09:25
willcooke:D09:25
Laneyit soudned like an explosion waiting to happen anyway :)09:26
Laneyhitting it actually improved matters09:26
pitti*nnng* I don't want to know. I don't, no, no09:26
pittiin other news: I just submitted my first autopkgtest retry request over the web UI09:26
Laneyoh!09:28
Laneyweb ui?09:28
pittihttp://10.0.3.78:5000/?release=trusty&package=coreutils&arch=amd64&trigger=glib2.0/2.40.0-209:28
Laneyha09:28
pitti(don't bother, this is a local LXC)09:28
pittiLaney: adding a "retry this test" button to excuses.html which devs can use09:29
pittinow, back to cranking test coverage back up to 100%09:29
Laneyyeah I know the feature09:29
Laneynot kept up with what you achieved at the sprint09:29
pittiLaney: I'll blog about that today, just wanted to finish this up09:30
* Laney eyes glib/ppc64el09:30
alexarnaudhikiko: I re-send it to you now09:35
Laneymitya57: oh, it was autopilot-legacy, disregard09:37
hikikooh alexarnaud I just saw both they were in spam folder and I hadn't sync it let me read it09:38
hikikook alexarnaud so the problem is that you change something and the gsettings are not stored right?09:40
hikikoor they are stored but you see no difference?09:41
alexarnaudhikiko: there are stored in Unity profile instead of mate-accessibility profile09:42
hikikoalexarnaud, 1st of all are you running unity+mate or ubuntu+mate?09:42
hikikosorry09:42
alexarnaudand in CCSM the profile swiching produce no effect09:42
hikikounity+compiz09:42
hikikoor mate+compiz09:43
alexarnaudDebian+Mate+Compiz09:43
hikikothe mate accessibility is only useful when you are on mate desktop09:43
hikikooh so you set something for mate09:43
hikikoand is set for unity?09:43
alexarnaudIt is set on the general section of the config file09:44
alexarnauddo you want the configuration file maybe ?09:44
hikikois it the xml file?09:44
alexarnaudI use two files :09:45
alexarnaud1) /etc/compiz*/config (I don't remember the exact name)09:45
alexarnaudand I use an override file with our (hypra.fr) parameters09:45
hikikooh maybe compiz doesn't look at this file :)09:46
alexarnaudthe first define gsettig backend and mate-accessibility as default profile09:46
alexarnaudhikiko: oh, really?09:46
hikikoso the problem is09:46
hikikothat you dont see the custom settings you wrote in the file09:46
hikikoright?09:46
alexarnaudThe config file produce effect I want09:47
alexarnaudbut gsettings DB doesn't match it09:47
alexarnaudso all configuration are stored in the wrong profile09:47
alexarnaudsettings are stored in profile Unity instead of mate-accessibility. CSSM shows the default profile is mate-accessibility but no configuration in it.09:48
hikikook probably dconf and compiz look at different files09:48
hikikoalexarnaud, because I don't know how you configured compiz and dconf (paths etc) what I would do to be sure09:49
alexarnaudhikiko: is profile switching work on your computer when you used gsettings?09:49
hikikois to add the configuration options in the xml files of compiz09:49
alexarnaudwhat is the xml file of compiz?09:49
hikikogive me a second (I don't have mate I think) let me check09:49
alexarnaudThe gsettings schema maybe?09:50
hikikoalexarnaud, which settings did you change?09:50
hikikowhat I would do is to add my files to compiz before installation and then install it09:50
alexarnaudhikiko: lets me alse a minute to give you all configuration and defails09:50
hikikosure09:50
alexarnaudhikiko: the override file http://paste.ubuntu.com/14596794/09:54
alexarnaudhikiko: the config file http://paste.ubuntu.com/14575900/09:55
alexarnaud(in /etc/compiz*)09:55
hikiko/etc/compizconfig maybe?09:56
hikikoalexarnaud, and in dconf-editor09:57
hikikowhich are the settings you look at?09:58
hikikoatm I dont have mate I only see org.profiles.unity09:59
hikiko.plugins and list10:00
hikikoalexarnaud, if you run gsettings set org.compiz.pluginname:variable value do you still have the same problem?10:01
alexarnaudhikiko: I will make you a dump of gsettings10:10
alexarnaudsorry someone come to meet me10:11
Amozheh. This is funny. Starting synapse from "inside" desktop leads to a crash ( sigsegv in libgdk-3) everytime. Starting it in a tty (ctrl+alt+f4) makes it work.10:12
Amozokay, so I found the culprit. unsetting GTK_IM_MODULE=xim makes it work "inside" again. Is this a bug or not?10:18
Amozor is my install/conffiles incorrect somewhere?10:18
Amozthis happens in 15.10 btw ^10:22
alexarnaudhikiko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14596877/10:28
alexarnaudhikiko: this is the dump of dconf org.compiz10:28
alexarnaudI hope you have all informations you want10:29
alexarnaud:)10:29
hikikoalexarnaud, I am not sure what's wrong it might be a bug I will look at it but maybe not today because I have to finish something else first before I install mate to experiment10:30
Laneymitya57: also it looks like the new kwallet backend for python-keyring is chosen too aggressively?10:34
Laneyit's breaking the ubuntu-sso-client build at least it seems10:34
alexarnaudhikiko: OK10:35
mitya57Laney, one more item to my TODO list :) But a wild guess is that a new upstream release may fix it.10:37
mitya57(With upstream's "release several times a day" principle I'm quite lagging behind)10:38
Laneymitya57: funny that your name keeps coming up this time :)10:38
Laneymitya57: I'm trying to install a config file in the package build to select a different backend10:38
Laneymaybe that works10:38
mitya57If you can test the latest release that will be also nice :)10:39
Laneytoo much red on glib/excuses atm10:39
mitya57Laney, do you have a build log link btw?10:39
Laneymaybe soon10:39
Laneycan boucne you one10:39
Laneydone10:40
Laneysecond one is after adding xvfb-run -a dbus-run-session10:41
mitya57Laney, yes, 7.3 should fix it10:42
mitya57Maybe I'll even upload it today if I have time10:43
Laneycool10:43
ksamakhikiko: hi10:44
hikikohi ksamak10:45
ksamaksorry about the incomplete questions. the actual question is rather like so10:45
ksamakwe're using mate with compiz, with gsettings backend, and an .override file10:45
ksamakat install with our packages10:46
ksamakalthough the gsettings are set up fine, we have trouble identifying if profiles are worth someting with gsettings in compiz.10:46
ksamakso, is compiz only recognizing one sole profile when on gsettings backend?10:47
ksamakor can we hope to have several profiles configured differently?10:47
ksamaknote: we are using ccsm to configure/change profiles, maybe it's not up to date10:47
ksamakwe have doubts because changing profiles in ccsm doesn't change the actual final settings.10:48
ksamakand dconf-editor show our modifs hierarchically under the "unity" compiz profile10:49
ksamakhikiko:10:49
hikikoksamak, as far as I know (I am not too familiar with the gsettings either) you can have many profiles but one profile per backend10:51
hikikoFor instance, if you are using the GSettings backend then any new profile you create will be a GSettings profile. If you switch to a different backend then your current profile will not work and you will automatically switch to a profile available for that backend.10:51
hikikojust found that on the arch wiki here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compiz_configuration#Profiles10:51
hikikoso I think what you suspect is correct10:52
ksamakyeah but we tried to implement a second gsettings profile.10:52
ksamakand the settings don't actually change between profiles.10:52
ksamakok. thx10:52
hikikoeverytime you create a new profile the settings go to unity?10:52
hikikommm andyrock Trevinho could you help? ^^10:53
ksamakwell, it seems that whatever profile is active (all gsettings), doesn't change the actual settings.10:54
ksamakso what we override works, but we can't switch to any other. so i was wondering whether out override is correct10:55
hikikowhen you say doesn't change you mean that you see no changes in compiz or that you cant see them in dconf?10:55
ksamakdconf displays settings under the unity profile. compiz behaves with overriden profiles, not changing when switching profiles10:56
hikikoif you restart compiz?10:56
ksamakreminder: andyrock Trevinho http://paste.ubuntu.com/14596794/10:57
ksamakhikiko: shouldn't we have a profile specified in our override by the way?10:58
ksamakthat's what i was wondering10:58
ksamakcause this looks like global settings10:58
ksamakas for profile-less settings like for mate or so10:58
hikikoyes they look global and to be honest I never switched profiles to change the settings I have to look at it ksamak I don't know because I am not familiar with that part of code, it looks more reasonable that the setting should be per profile we might have a bug I'll ask Trevinho too (he is at a conference this week)11:02
hikikoalso I'll install mate to reproduce the problem, there might be something with the settings11:03
ksamaki don't think this is linked with mate, but ok thanks for your interest11:05
ksamaki guess people don't use ccsm so much?11:05
hikikoyes probably I can check with a random new profile11:05
hikikoksamak, usually people change the settings from ccsm for the profile that is already selected (either default or unity)11:06
ksamakyeah no-one ever changes profiles, right lol11:06
ksamakwe're the only ones thinking that that might be nice XD11:07
ksamakwe actually want to setup different profiles for different types of handicaps.11:07
hikikothen we should definitely look at this because it sounds like a bug11:07
ksamakfor more flexibility with handicapped people11:08
hikikoyes, I understand11:08
hikikowell I ll look at it next week I believe it's a compiz or ccsm bug11:09
hikikoyou should be able to have settings per profile11:09
ksamakthx11:26
andyrockmorning12:12
andyrockhikiko: ksamak do you still need help?12:12
willcookemorning andyrock12:13
hikikohi andyrock :)12:14
hikikoyes the question is: how could someone in compiz have different gsettings for different profiles12:15
hikikoit seems that we have a bug and when you select a profile in ccsm12:15
hikikoand you set some gsettings they go global12:15
hikikothey apply to all profiles12:15
hikikoksamak, had this configuration file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14596794/12:16
hikikosorry: this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14596794/12:16
hikikohe uses the existing unity and mate profiles12:17
hikikobut when he sets gsettings for mate12:17
hikikothey go to the unity section in dconf-editor12:18
hikikoand they are global12:18
hikikoI am not very familiar with that part of compiz :/12:18
hikikoif you could help it would have been nice otherwise I'll look at this problem next week12:19
hikikosorry bbiab12:19
andyrocki'm not familiar with this part of compiz neither12:51
andyrockhikiko: we can wait for Trevinho or I can try to debug it if it's urgent12:52
hikikowhen is Trevinho back?12:53
willcookelemme check the spreadsheet..12:54
hikikobest case scenario is that marco knows a trick to do it without ccsm :)12:54
willcookeFlight is on Monday, so maaaaybe Tuesday PM, most likely weds12:55
andyrockit's actually no sleeping12:56
andyrockI was speeking with him few minutes ago on the phone12:56
andyrockbut it's better to don't bother him at this time :D12:56
andyrockhe needs to sleep too12:56
hikiko:)12:58
hikikoe ok let's get a look on monday then and when marco is back he helps us I don't know if it's urgent but if it's a bug I guess is important (no?) I don't know13:01
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hikiko|lnmm ksamak13:13
hikiko|lni have a more recent ccsm and dconf13:13
hikiko|lnI created a foobar profile13:13
hikiko|ln(new one)13:14
hikiko|lnadded some settings13:14
hikiko|lnrestarted dconf-editor13:14
hikiko|lnand they appear there13:14
hikiko|lnksamak, Compiz 0.9.12.2 that's my version13:14
hikiko|lndconf-editor 3.18.213:14
hikiko|lnbut I set the settings through ccsm13:15
hikiko|lnnot manually13:15
hikiko|lnso I believe that it's just something in the settings13:15
hikiko|lnlet me try to import your settings now13:16
hikiko|lnksamak, when I select the ccsm profile and set the settings for it in ccsm they are applied to the profile only13:21
hikiko|lnwhen I import your .profile13:21
hikiko|lnthey are globally applied13:21
hikiko|lnbbiab13:22
hikiko|lnksamak, i think the syntax is not correct13:26
hikiko|lnksamak try something like that: https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597543/ imported when your custom profile is selected and check dconf editor again I think it will work13:27
hikiko|lnit seems to work for me13:27
hikiko|lnbasically try it with 2 settings only because that's huge :)13:27
hikiko|lnbbiab lunch break :)13:28
ksamakre13:48
ksamakhikiko|ln: ok, thanks for taking the time to test, it's kind of what we needed!13:50
ksamakalthough your file is the same syntax as ours, right?13:51
ksamakwe can't really rely on that for an installation from .deb package though.13:51
ksamakif you're right13:51
ksamaki'll try and think again about that13:51
hikiko|lnno the difference is the []13:52
hikiko|lnbasically ksamak I exported your settings from 1 profile13:53
ksamakoh, ok.13:53
hikiko|lnksamak, when Trevinho is back he will help more13:54
hikiko|lnI am just experimenting I am not familiar with gsettings13:54
ksamakindeed13:54
ksamakthere's a difference indeed.13:54
ksamakso this makes it relative to a profile.13:54
ksamakwhich is good. now we need to try and find a way to specify the profile applied.13:55
hikiko|lnthere are some profile.ini files in my system13:55
hikiko|lnunity.ini13:55
hikiko|lnfor example13:55
hikiko|lnbut I don't have much time to look at this today13:55
hikiko|lnnext week :)13:56
hikiko|lnI think they are relevant13:56
hikiko|lnif you want to get a look yourself13:56
ksamakyeah these are the ini backend files.13:57
ksamakwe tested that, it works. but we need to migrate to gsettings.13:58
ksamakhikiko|ln: thanks again for all your help13:58
hikiko|lnnp :)13:58
hikiko|lnhope it helps13:58
ksamakalready does.14:01
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Sweet5hark1oh, its Friday! Lets continue the discussion on C++.14:04
willcookeSo14:05
Sweet5hark1http://45.media.tumblr.com/e545c444e8e28687ce9363e84017e7d5/tumblr_nz3134g9dT1rn7bzro1_500.gif might be a starting point.14:05
willcookeIf I want to pass a 2 dimensional array as a pointer to a function....14:05
willcookeSweet5hark1, love that gif :)14:05
larsuhaha nice one14:08
alexarnaudhikiko: thanks again14:32
alexarnaudI've read the discusession14:33
alexarnaudIt seems that maybe I need to make another test also14:33
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attenteLaney: hey, do you know if there are any docs for the software center rest api?15:36
Laneyattente: short answer is no16:03
Laneyattente: long answer is which API do you mean?16:03
Laney(that's not much longer!)16:03
attentewhich ever one we need for gnome-software to submit reviews16:04
attentei'm trying to add support for that there, but can't figure out why i keep getting a 401 error16:04
Laneyah, sorry, I thought robert_ancell had already done that though16:05
Laneybut if I were to pick someone it would be m v o16:05
attenteis someone writing a new server with new api or something?16:05
LaneyI thought he was just interfacing with the same thing software-center uses currently16:06
attenteyeah, i was just hoping there'd be an easier way than reverse engineering the old code16:07
LaneyI bet not, but check with reverse(ovm) to be sure16:08
attentelol16:08
Laneyis that part not done in robert's branch(es) already?16:08
attenteit was missing the ubuntu sso which i added yesterday16:09
Laneyah16:09
attentebut i guess it wasn't testable because of the lack of sso at the time16:09
Laneyyeah sorry, I've not worked on the client at all16:09
Laneyjust the server bit16:09
Laneyif you're after another task then you could see why the metadata doesn't load up properly (email from me and matthias to ubuntu-desktop last week)16:10
Laneyotherwise will look at that first half of next week16:10
attentesure16:10
attenteis that server bit you have include a staging server for testing?16:11
attenteoh. just read it...16:12
attentemvo: hey, do you know if there are any docs for the software center rest api?16:14
Laneyyeah but not integrated16:14
Laneyso you get to use that shitty script I wrote to wangle the files into place16:15
alexarnaudIt's friday :)! If you want to try your linux history knowledge you can deal with this quizz : http://fossforce.com/2016/01/how-well-do-you-know-your-linux-history/16:25
willcooke15 / 18 - 2 of which were silly mistakes16:29
alexarnaudwillcooke: it's the same for me16:45
alexarnaudI don't know anything about crises about legal rights16:45
Laneyhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/pending/17:40
Laneyhaz images17:40
seb128Laney, hey!17:52
Laneyhi seb128!17:53
willcookegood stuff, thanks Laney17:53
willcookehey seb12817:53
Laneywhat is up?17:53
seb128hey willcooke17:54
seb128smelling like w.e for you guys? ;-)17:54
willcooke:D17:55
seb128willcooke, just had a chat with alecu, +1 for the "keep click but drop the packagekit interface"17:55
willcookeseb128, awesome, thanks!  Good news indeed17:55
willcookeLaney, ^^ :D17:55
Laneycool17:56
Laneyhappy weekend!18:01
Laneybleh18:02
Laneycan someone retry autopilot and autopilot-legacy once sphinx gets published please?18:02
Laneybyeee18:02
seb128Laney, enjoy!18:02
seb128Laney, retry what? builds?18:02
seb128kenvandine, thanks for the reply on that bluetooth bug18:42
seb128go technologie, it's 2016 and you could expect that things get better18:44
seb128 not that new protocol suck so much that you can't even know what type of device you are listing18:44
kenvandineyeah18:45
kenvandinecase #1 is the pressing issue we have now18:46
kenvandinebut... i'm more interested in case #218:46
kenvandinei've had to add several device types to our filter over the past 6 months or so18:46
kenvandineseb128, not sure about iOS, but android seems to let you pair anything too18:47
seb128well, android let you do things with devices18:47
seb128like send fles over obex18:47
seb128or use mouse pointers18:47
seb128which we don't18:48
kenvandineyeah, hopefully we will too :)18:48
seb128I find it a bit confusing that you can't pair a device that then does nothing18:48
kenvandineyou mean can?18:48
seb128it feels like we have bugs18:48
seb128yes, sorry18:48
kenvandinei felt that way too :)18:48
kenvandinebut simon convinced me i was wrong :)18:48
kenvandinehopefully someday we'll have uses for all of these :)18:49
seb128we can't have a dev convincing every user that they are wrong to feel like they do18:49
seb128well, we were always going to whitelist things that have an use18:49
seb128anyway if design is happy about it18:50
seb128let's see what's the user feedback18:50
willcookenight all.  Have a great time a SCALE, and safe travels for those of you on the way to FOSDEM and related activities.19:15
willcookeEveryone else, happy weekend!19:15
Sweet5hark1seb128: around?22:34
seb128Sweet5hark1, yes22:34
Sweet5hark1seb128: heya, on a sprint or something?22:35
seb128Sweet5hark1, at UbuCon yes ;-)22:35
Sweet5hark1seb128: anyway, 5.1.0~rc2 is build and in the ppa -- if there is no big complaints in the next days, i'd suggest to sponsor that into xenial.22:36
Sweet5hark1seb128: ah, cool, have fun!22:36
seb128Sweet5hark1, sounds good to me, let me know if you need sponsoring22:36
seb128I'm travelling on monday and should be back on tuesday22:36
Sweet5hark1seb128: rationale for going with rc2 already instead of final: winter releases are always a bit more tight and this release seems less risky than other major releases.22:37
seb128I'm all for not being overconservative and land the rc22:38
Sweet5hark1seb128: this release also still has libmwaw libw{d,g,s} and lpolve bundled, but Istill think we should upload it as-is, we can than still fix that afterwards without doing everything in one step.22:40
Sweet5hark1yeah, tuesday/wednesday sounds good. Ill be travelling to FOSDEM on Friday early morning.22:41
Sweet5hark1seb128: alright, tuning out for the weekend. have fun at UbuCon!22:43
seb128Sweet5hark1, thanks, have a good w.e!22:52

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