[00:02] <otyugh> arh. I've freshly installed xubuntu. i've got a "bus error" and xserver fails to boot :(
[00:02] <otyugh> what do we do in theses case ?
[00:04] <prosit> otyugh: i assume you have done apt-get update and upgrade?
[00:04] <otyugh> yes
[00:05] <otyugh> :(
[00:06] <prosit> otyugh: hmmm thats weird. is dbus running?
[00:06] <otyugh> seems
[00:07] <otyugh> ("$ pgrep dbus" -> "704")
[00:07] <otyugh> this is a fresh install, I'm confused :/
[00:07] <prosit> otyugh: when do you get the error? before or after login?
[00:08] <otyugh> Well at bootup, I got a black screen
[00:08] <otyugh> wsith ctrl+alt+number I go to tty
[00:08] <otyugh> then I get the error issuing startx
[00:09] <prosit> otyugh: well I'm stumped :/
[00:09] <k1l_> dont use startx
[00:10] <k1l_> that is supposed to bring up errors most time. better fix the issue at the lightdm in first place. like looking if the proper video driver is working
[00:11] <otyugh> I've got a lot of stuff err-ing
[00:11] <otyugh> "sample : Exception Emas 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0"
[00:14] <prosit> otyugh: try systemctl start lightdm
[00:15] <otyugh> did that, same symtoms at startx :/
[00:15] <otyugh> +p
[00:15] <k1l_> what exactly? what does dmesg tell about the errors? what about the xorg log?
[00:16] <otyugh> Erh, all this rewriting work :(
[00:17] <kinker31> Does anybody know how to boot up the Windows recovery partition using grub2?
[00:18] <otyugh> ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[00:18] <otyugh> ata1.00: BMDMA stat 0x25
[00:18] <otyugh> ata1.00: failed command: READ DMA
[00:18] <k1l_> is the hdd ok?
[00:18] <otyugh> k1l_, well I wonder.
[00:19] <otyugh> How to check ? Fsck from another computer would do the trick ?
[00:19] <k1l_> i would test with the smartctl first
[00:21] <Jordan_U> otyugh: Definitely don't try to repair the filesystem with fsck before checking the drive's S.M.A.R.T. status. And make sure that any data on this drive that you care about is backed up *immediately*.
[00:23] <otyugh> Jordan_U, makes sense.
[00:39] <Sheraf> Hi, trying to remap some keys on my laptop
[00:39] <Sheraf> i'd like to do mod4 + pg_up to do HOME key
[00:39] <akkad> Is Precise still supported? I get a 404 on http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/Packages
[00:39] <Sheraf> i guess using xmodmap, but mod4 + pg_up doesn't have its own keycode
[00:40] <rww> akkad: Ubuntu tends to use compressed Packages files (.bz2, .gz) rather than uncompressed
[00:40] <rww> see also http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/
[00:40] <rww> also: precise/12.04 is supported until April 2017
[00:41] <HaroldJ> At UbuCon Summit. Anyone else here there?
[00:43] <k1l_> akkad: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/  is online. maybe your packagesystem is misconfigured?
[00:44] <akkad> my browser gave me the 404
[00:44] <rww> on the link k1l_ and I just posted, or the one you gave?
[00:44] <rww> because i explained why the one you gave doesn't work
[00:44] <akkad> now to un-misconfigure the default setup
[00:45] <rww> this feels like one of those times where you asked a question but are asking it because of another question that we didn't hear yet :\
[00:50] <stefzeer> Hello
[00:54] <on247> hi
[00:55] <jdyer> @akkad, a 404 is normal for that address you provided.  Try : http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/binary-amd64/
[00:55] <HaroldJ> Hello
[00:55] <jdyer> @akkad the repo is still there.
[00:56] <on247> Anyone on server
[00:56] <on247> channel
[00:56] <on247> need some help
[00:57] <k1l_> on247: just ask
[00:57] <on247> I asked
[00:57] <on247> nobody responded on #ubuntu-server
[00:57] <jdyer> on247 : Try reposting your question here?
[00:57] <k1l_> !details
[00:57] <on247> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu-server] Ubuntu Server Discussions (development and support). This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService [18:54] <on247> So i configured my OpenVPN server [18:55] <on247> and openvpn start server [18:55] <on247> work [18:55] <on247> when i use it manually [18:55] <on247> but i can not get systemctl to start it [18:55] <on247> No vpn is running 
[00:57] <sssilver> What's the point of Ubuntu in a world that already has OSX?
[00:58] <on247> Basically manual start of my vpn works
[00:58] <on247> start via service doesent
[00:58] <on247> No vpn is running
[00:58] <j__> ssilver the answer is customization
[00:58] <j__> and freedom
[00:59] <jdyer> on247 : Did you try : http://askubuntu.com/questions/177379/no-vpn-is-running-what-does-this-mean
[00:59] <sssilver> j__ I'm watching this channel and sometimes I feel sorry that so many people have nothing better to waste their precious lives on than fucking with some weird VPN/WiFi/Driver/whatever problems that a good OS is supposed to ensure don't exist
[00:59] <on247> i setup a VPN server config file of course
[00:59] <on247> openvpn start server works
[00:59] <jdyer> sssilver : And you have nothing better to do than watch people waste their time?
[01:00] <sssilver> beh
[01:00] <jdyer> sssilver : If you like Mac OS, use Mac Os.
[01:00] <on247> systemctl start openvpn does not
[01:00] <on247> nor service start openvpn
[01:00] <poolq> if yopu knew how the internet works you wouldn't be griping about all the 'people' here
[01:01] <on247> the config exists and is valid but i have to point the server to it
[01:01] <on247> any clue?
[01:01] <k1l_> lets focus again on the ubuntu support.
[01:01] <poolq> yeah this is a support channel
[01:02] <poolq> how do i set ubuntu to do all my work for me, so i get paid to sleep all day?
[01:02] <sssilver> I like systems that get out of the way and let me focus on accomplishing exciting things, I'm just genuinely trying to understand the point of using an OS that wastes so much of your time on routine maintenance. What would be a good channel to discuss that?
[01:02] <jdyer> on247 : Haven't seen that one.  I'm assuming you've not modified the init script that comes w/ the package?
[01:02] <xangua>  ! Ot | sssilver
[01:02] <k1l_> !ot | sssilver
[01:03] <jdyer> sssilver: If legit question, the answer is that you can accomplish a great many things in Ubuntu.  I've got a machine running most of the services in my house that I've not had to do _any_ maintenance on beyond standard upgrades in about four years now
[01:04] <on247> no
[01:04] <jdyer> sssilver: And I can use real, honest to goodness open source applications that let me make alterations or study how they work.  I don't have to pay to get decent apps that work quite well.  You've got some selection bias going on.  If you join a support channel, don't be surprised when folks ask for help
[01:04] <on247> but might as well just do that
[01:04] <k1l_> jdyer: put that into the offtopic channel please
[01:04] <on247> to point it to the correct .conf file
[01:05] <jdyer> k1l_ Roger roger.  Sorry; buttons pushed.
[01:05] <on247> you unknowingly gave me the answer
[01:05] <sssilver> jdyer yes lets go there
[01:06] <django_> the one thing i dont like about ubuntu is when i look at someones windows10 for example its so much nicer visually
[01:06] <poolq> there are a lot of window managers to choose from.
[01:09] <HazWard> Hello! Anyone using termite here?
[01:10] <Sander^home_> Hi. I heard something about a root vulnerability in the kernel.. Do anyone know in which kernel from which date it was fixed?
[01:10] <k1l_> Sander^home_: it is fixes on all ubuntus. just run the updates
[01:10] <rww> peruse http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ . can't be more specific without something more than "root vulnerability"
[01:10] <k1l_> Sander^home_: for more info see ubuntu.com/usn
[01:10] <bekks> Sander^home_: "a vulnerability". Can you be more precise?
[01:10] <rww> if you mean the recent one related to the keychain subsystem, it's fixed, see the recent kernel USNs for versions
[01:11] <rww> (different USNs for different packages, so scroll through and pick as appropriate)
[01:11] <Jordan_U> django_: Are you referring to applications, the Desktop Environment, or both? Have you tried KDE or Gnome Shell instead of Unity? You can test a consistent theme (apps and the rest of the environment matching for the most part) by trying Kubuntu, and Ubuntu-Gnome LiveCDs. You may also like XFCE (Xubuntu) or go crazy with your own heavily customized openbox.
[01:11] <AndreeeCZ> Hi! Just installed jackd2 on raspberry pi, but the clock isn't working properly
[01:11] <AndreeeCZ> is the package broken?
[01:12] <django_> Jordan_U, im on xubuntu
[01:12] <bekks> AndreeeCZ: Define "the clock isnt working properly" please.
[01:13] <AndreeeCZ> bekks, the sample rate clock ticks about 4-6 times slower than it should
[01:13] <Jordan_U> django_: Ubuntu Gnome, Kubntu, and standard Ubuntu will all look more "modern" than XFCE if that's what you prefer (I personally find XFCE quite pleasing, and of course modern is subjective).
[01:13] <jdyer> AndreeeCZ: The raspi doesn't have an onboard clock; you have to get yer time from inet.  I don't know for sure that that's your problem, but I know that that threw me whn I first started tinkering w/ one
[01:13] <bekks> AndreeeCZ: I'd not expect the Raspi having a RTC at all.
[01:14] <AndreeeCZ> no this is an audio sampling problem, not related to time, just properly timed callbacks
[01:15] <bekks> AndreeeCZ: audio sampling relies on a stable RTC heavily.
[01:15] <AndreeeCZ> but since it can produce and sample audio (since it outputs audio to jack or HDMI)
[01:15] <AndreeeCZ> .. or video
[01:16] <AndreeeCZ> i presume there is some mechanism of having an interrupt every N cpu cycles
[01:16] <AndreeeCZ> or something like that
[01:17] <chrome_netflix> Is anybody else having issues with Netflix after the latest Chrome update? I get error M7702-1003, which seems to be related to the Widevine plugin, but no amount of re-enabling or deleting the Chrome config will fix it
[01:21] <poolq> why am i so high energy when everyone else i talk to complains of getting tired?
[01:23] <rww> poolq: #ubuntu-offtopic for stuff like that :)
[01:23] <kiavtri> poolq: you must be related to Donald TRUMP
[01:27] <loveheartjoylove> I want to remove the sidebar on unity completely but without effecting any keyboard shortcuts for alt, and the main menu (I want it to be invisible
[01:28] <xangua> Why not just set it to auto hide?
[01:30] <loveheartjoylove> I suppose I'll try it, thanks
[01:30] <loveheartjoylove> GNOME 3 is slow isn't it
[01:31] <loveheartjoylove> or did it get faster, cause it used to be a dog
[01:31] <loveheartjoylove> when it first came out
[01:32] <kiavtri> loveheartjoylove: it depends on gpu
[01:33] <mustmodify> I'm having audio sync problems When I go into pavucontrol and change the offset, nothing happens. If I switch from 0 to +5000 shouldn't I loose 5 seconds of audio?
[01:33] <xangua> loveheartjoylove: if resource is your problem, then I'll suggest you try xubuntu or Lubuntu
[01:33] <mustmodify> DO I need to restart a service before it will take effect?
[01:33] <loveheartjoylove> nvidia 940m branded Intel something or another
[01:33] <loveheartjoylove> I have a good unit just latency is a bother to my dexterity
[01:34] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: Sounds like you are having an Nvidia Optimus system.
[01:34] <loveheartjoylove> prime?
[01:34] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: Yeah.
[01:36] <Sander^home_> k1l_: Do you know from which kernel it was fixed.
[01:38] <bekks> Sander^home_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2870-2/
[01:38] <John[Lisbeth]> I made a new user and gave them a home folder, and I want to change the file which starts from bash to a custom file
[01:38] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: "change the file ...."? What do you mean?
[01:39] <Sander^home_> bekks: thanks. I just noticed while looking myself. :-)
[01:40] <John[Lisbeth]> Well from my undertstanding the login prompt starts with /bin/bash
[01:40] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: As long as you set /bin/bash to be the login shell for your user - yes.
[01:40] <loveheartjoylove> can data be recovered when not securely erased (copied over) from ssd hard drives, provided the RAM has been whipped?
[01:40] <anabain> I've just pluggeed two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[01:40] <John[Lisbeth]> I just used the adduser defaults
[01:41] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Do you use /bin/bash as the login shell for your user?
[01:42] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: copying over data leaves the source intact. No recovery needed, the data is still there.
[01:42] <John[Lisbeth]> the username in question is "mel" and when you login to mel you get bash
[01:42] <John[Lisbeth]> I want /<foo>
[01:42] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Look at /etc/passwd
[01:42] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Do you use /bin/bash as the login shell for your user?
[01:42] <John[Lisbeth]> evidently
[01:43] <loveheartjoylove> bekks I meant secure erasing where the actual data is overwritten several times
[01:43] <ratnot> can anyone here tell me how to get a cd/dvd disc to autorun ?
[01:43] <loveheartjoylove> not the symbolic link
[01:43] <bekks> loveheartjoylove: are you talking about source or destination?
[01:43] <bekks> ratnot: there is no such thing under linux.
[01:43] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: So you want to change the prompt for your new user?
[01:44] <ratnot> ok...are you saying when I put disc in tray it want autorun?
[01:45] <John[Lisbeth]> /etc/passwd does not seem to have what I need at a glance
[01:45] <bekks> ratnot: No. I said: "there is no such thing under linux". There is no autorun facility for a cd/dvd under Linux.
[01:45] <ratnot> >>>>>bekks<<<<<<if not then how do i get a data disc such as a printer install to work on linux
[01:45] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Again:
[01:45] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Is the login shell for your user set to /bin/bash ?
[01:46] <bekks> ratnot: mount it manually, run the installer manually?
[01:46] <John[Lisbeth]> I don't know
[01:46] <ratnot> ok
[01:46] <John[Lisbeth]> How can I check?
[01:46] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: I told you how to check.
[01:46] <ratnot> bekks:<<<<can you guide me how to manually install from a disc?
[01:46] <bekks> ratnot: I told you how to do.
[01:47] <ratnot> bekks:<<<if you did please re-tell me?...im so lost
[01:47] <bekks> ratnot: mount it manually, run the installer manually?
[01:48] <John[Lisbeth]> in the user mel when I type echo $SHELL, I get /bin/bash
[01:48] <John[Lisbeth]> her shell is indeed verifiably bash
[01:48] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: So your login shell is set to /bin/bash
[01:48] <John[Lisbeth]> yes
[01:48] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: So you want to change the prompt being shown now?
[01:49] <John[Lisbeth]> no, i want her to launch a program with a custom path, not /bin/bash
[01:49] <ratnot> bekks<<< ok not sure how to manually....if at all possible can you tell me what i'm doing wrong?
[01:49] <allizom> bekks: actually there's a draft spec just for that: https://developer.gnome.org/autostart-spec/
[01:49] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: That makes no sense. /bin/bash is not a path, but your shell.
[01:49] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: Do you want to run a specific program using another shell?
[01:49] <John[Lisbeth]> everything in unix is a file
[01:50] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: ...
[01:50] <bekks> John[Lisbeth]: The main caveat is, that Linux isnt UNIX.
[01:50] <John[Lisbeth]> l8er
[01:50] <bekks> Good luck...
[02:03] <bocephus_> I'm trying to run steam and getting an error "You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
[02:03] <bocephus_> libc.so.6"
[02:04] <bocephus_> I have done a locate for libc.so.6
[02:04] <bocephus_> did a ./libc.so.6 but doesent work
[02:05] <bocephus_> i may have found my answer:  https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/666828126779141735/
[02:07] <jonathan_> How do I change nickname in IRSSI?
[02:08] <jonathan_> How do I change nickname in IRSSI?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> jonathan_: /nick New_nick_here
[02:09] <lel> thanks!
[02:09] <bob2021> how do i make compiz stop taking up 10% of cpu continuously?  i found a webpage about using ubuntu "2-D" but i can't find the option
[02:09] <lel> Log out
[02:09] <Art10001_> compiz is intensive depending of your configuration
[02:09] <lel> And click the ubuntu logo
[02:09] <ashan> I have a weird DNS issue with my server. Any network gurus on?
[02:10] <bob2021> lei you mean the ubuntu logo in the middle of the desktop?  I thought that was part of the background
[02:10] <bob2021> ashan:  what weird dns issue?
[02:10] <lel> No, the logo next to your username when you log out.
[02:10] <lel> Ctrl+Alt+Del
[02:11] <Guest97094> i have a quick question
[02:11] <lel> Yes Guest?
[02:11] <Guest97094> when i lock my computer, sometiems when i come back, my keybaord does not respond
[02:11] <Guest97094> and i have to restart my machine
[02:11] <lel> Laptop, or desktop?
[02:11] <Guest97094> lock my computer and turn off my monitors i mean
[02:11] <Guest97094> desktop
[02:12] <bob2021> Art10001_ how should i change my configuration?
[02:12] <lel> Possibly may be a keyboard malfunction, rather than a configuration issue?
[02:12] <Guest97094> a keyboard malfunction?>
[02:12] <Guest97094> but it works when i restart
[02:12] <ashan> bob2021: I'm running openvpn and transmission on my server. Both work fine at start. periodically... 45 mins to hours, suddenly it can no longer resolve the openvpn address and everything shuts down
[02:13] <anabain> I've just pluggeed two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[02:13] <bob2021> ashan: why do you think the culprit is the server and not the client?
[02:14] <lel> Guest, it may be a problem with the connection, try moving the keyboard to a new input.
[02:14] <Guest97094> anabain: i've had that problem, i honestly dont know how to fix it, i hiope someone in the chat can answer
[02:14] <Guest97094> lel: but why would it work upon restart?
[02:14] <lel> I mean a connection issue on the computer's input.
[02:15] <ashan> bob2021: you think the openvpn VPN service may be at fault?
[02:15] <SilverCreek> lel... funny nick. :)
[02:15] <bob2021> wait a sec - your server is the vpn *client*?
[02:15] <ashan> bob2021: service is ExpressVPN...
[02:16] <bob2021> so your server is on expressvpn, and your local machine is also on express vpn and that's how they're talking to each other?
[02:16] <ashan> bob2021: yes. my server IS the VPN client
[02:17] <poolq> Guest97094, it is a BIOS auto shutdown of the keyboard module and the usual answer is 'buy a computer that doesn't need to connect to mars and earth to work.
[02:17] <bob2021> it sounds like they're both VPN clients, no?
[02:17] <ashan> no... i have a server running at home that does... things... it also does transmission torrents via VPN
[02:17] <lel> peace out y'all
[02:17] <Guest97094> poolq: what does that mean?
[02:18] <bob2021> ashan: ah, the culprit reveals itself.  sounds like you're being throttled.
[02:18] <poolq> sorry i was being creative, it means the driver detects the power save mode, then locks out the keyboard until it is rebooted
[02:18] <Guest97094> poolq: haha no thats fine, how would I go about fixing that?
[02:18] <SilverCreek> So, I installed proprietary print drivers for my Brother printer/scanner. The print functionality works perfectly, but I am not sure how to use the scan functionality. The program "Simple Scan" fails to find the scanner, even though the scanner is directly connected via USB. Should I try another scan program?
[02:18] <ashan> bob2021: throttled by whom? any way i can determine that?
[02:19] <ashan> bob2021: considering i use google public DNS servers?
[02:19] <poolq> i don't know everything. but maybe someone else can fix it, since you know it is the power management that is wonky
[02:19] <sruli> SilverCreek: did you install "sane?"
[02:19] <bob2021> sure try changing the server's IP address on the VPN (so preexisting torrent clients don't try to access it) boot it, don't run torrent, and see what happens
[02:20] <sruli> sane & sane-utils
[02:20] <SilverCreek> sruli: I have never heard of that program. I thought the proprietary driver installer would install all of the dependencies. I'll try manually installing that.
[02:21] <russe11> I'm having a problem with my freshly installed ubuntu server 15.10 x64 machine. I get a totally black screen at startup. SSH works, I can log in and execute commands. I previously accidentally installed 14.04 LTS 32 bit and the display worked fine. What can I do?
[02:21] <ashan> bob2021: i'm not sure why throttling would make ALL DNS services fail...
[02:21] <rahuldev> How to know your laptop name and brand
[02:21] <poolq> the question to ask is, "i believe power management is automatically powering off my keyboard until it is rebooted, what logs do i check to verify and fix the problem
[02:21] <rahuldev> pls anyone tell me
[02:23] <sruli> SilverCreek: r u sure u installed driver for printer and scanner?
[02:24] <ashan> bob2021: openvpn is failing because it can't resolve the server in the config file. and when it fails, the tun0 connection hangs making ALL DNS calls fail
[02:24] <ashan> bob2021: or so i think. i shut down openvpn and i can ping inet addresses
[02:25] <Bashing-om> russe11: Graphics driver issue ? What results when booting up with the "nomodeset" boot option ? Then consider installing a proprietary graphics driver .
[02:25] <SilverCreek> sruli: I thought it said it would automatically install all software necessary for the printer AND the scanner.
[02:26] <sruli> SilverCreek: see how it goes after u installed sane and sane-utils
[02:26] <SilverCreek> sruli: Should I restart the computer?
[02:27] <sruli> SilverCreek: shouldnt need to
[02:27] <russe11> Bashing-om - I'm just using onboard graphics on an amd athalon 5350, I don't have X installed or any desktop
[02:27] <rchavik> hello, installing a new 14.04 server, but seeing 16.04 is around the corner, would it be better to use 14.04 or 15.04 to ease upgrade to 16.04?
[02:27] <SilverCreek> sruli: After installing, the terminal noted "saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned"
[02:28] <SilverCreek> Simple Scan still isn't working. :/
[02:28] <sruli> rchavik: LTS always better
[02:28] <Bashing-om> russe11: In that case, I too do not know .
[02:29] <rchavik> sruli, thank you
[02:29] <sruli> SilverCreek: try starting sane see if it finds it
[02:29] <russe11> Bashing-om, thanks anyway friend :)
[02:30] <bob2021> ashan: well it sounds like expressvpn is throttling you
[02:30] <ashan> bob2021: thanks for the help.
[02:31] <bob2021> how do i stop ubuntu from asking me for my password every time it wants to change my User Data?
[02:34] <SilverCreek> sruli: I'm not having any luck. :/
[02:34] <bob2021> can someone advise me on pairing my Apple bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu?  I've seen a lot of conflicting advice through google but none of it worked
[02:34] <sruli> SilverCreek: model of ur brother mfc and which file did u download to install?
[02:37] <SilverCreek> sruli: I have an MFC-L2700DW. I downloaded http://download.brother.com/welcome/dlf006893/linux-brprinter-installer-2.0.0-1.gz
[02:37] <The_Letter_M> So I'm curious if anyone here is using Snappy for anything practical?
[02:37] <dino99> # install-docs --verbose --check /usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs
[02:37] <dino99> Warning in `/usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs', line 9: file `/usr/share/doc/python3-xapian1.3/index.html' does not exist.
[02:37] <dino99> Error in `/usr/share/doc-base/xapian-python3-docs', line 9: all `Format' sections are invalid.
[02:38] <SilverCreek> sruli: The description says "The tool will install LPR, CUPSwrapper driver and scanner driver (for scanner models)."
[02:39] <sruli> SilverCreek: is the printer working can you print?
[02:39] <SilverCreek> It prints very well.
[02:41] <SilverCreek> sruli: I'll try some other scan programs.
[02:41] <sruli> SilverCreek: the file you downloaded is 0.02MB, in the scanner section below the 64bit driver for scanner is 0.07mb try that http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=gb&lang=en&prod=mfcl2700dw_us_eu_as&os=128
[02:42] <SilverCreek> okay
[02:42] <jalt> Hi, is the recommended way to update the gcc toolchain on 14.04 using a ppa as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/466651/how-do-i-use-the-latest-gcc-4-9-on-ubuntu-14-04 or is there a better way?
[02:43] <bob2021> can someone help with my unpaired keyboard?
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[02:49] <speedy> hi
[02:50] <RNeville> Hello, tried clicking on ubottu.com/y and get blank web page ? Not sure what's going on!
[02:50] <speedy> i have a ubuntu 14.04 ec2, i am looking to to a mass commands,installs and update-what language is good for this as i here big bash scripts are bad.
[02:50] <SilverCreek> sruli: Thanks for the support. I haven't figured out the problem yet, but I'm gonna try restarting and a few other things.
[02:51] <sqpat> right now I have two instances of tomcat that I run on an application server but only one is properly configured as a service to run at boot. What's a recommended way of just running my other startup bash script at boot?
[02:51] <sruli> silvercreek: see if this helps http://askubuntu.com/questions/549840/brother-mfc-l2700dw-printer-does-not-work
[02:51] <speedy> cron?? 8shug* sqpat
[02:51] <sqpat> oh can cron be configured to run on boot?
[02:52] <speedy> sqpat,  google says yes.
[02:52] <sqpat> i guess my issue is that its on a VM provider and every few months or something the server might get restarted for one reason or another and it starts up in a non-running state, so i'd just like to fix this in the future
[02:52] <sqpat> ill look into cron then
[02:53] <sqpat> i thought it only ran at some specific clock/calendar times
[02:53] <jalt> sqpat, you should use your init system first (possibly upstart or systemd)
[02:53] <jalt> you might need to be careful since you're running two instances at the same time
[02:53] <speedy> sqpat,  that is not the only solution for you. but cron is something you can look up now and you can good it easy for answers.
[02:53] <sqpat> yea, i ended up creating two directories for a lot of random things like logs, etc
[02:54] <jalt> cron is definitely not the right solution for this
[02:54] <speedy> sqpat,  is it cheaper that way ?
[02:54] <sqpat> well i did this like 2 years ago and it still runs today so its 'good enough'
[02:54] <sqpat> the reason i run two tomcats is just so i can update one at a time without application downtime
[02:54] <speedy> jalt, sqpat  i am a noob,
[02:55] <sqpat> they listen on different ports thru nginx which 'load balances'
[02:55] <speedy> how long is it for that way vs having one tomcat? -downtime?
[02:55] <sqpat> maybe a few minutes
[02:55] <sqpat> if i had one tomcat
[02:55] <sqpat> but if i accidentally broken something, it could be more
[02:55] <speedy> what is your site?
[02:56] <SilverCreek> sruli: The scan functionality works now. i just needed to restart. Thank you! :D
[02:56] <speedy> webstie?*
[02:56] <sqpat> its a web based game
[02:57] <speedy> sqpat, maybe there is a cumtom app/script that has been made already that does what you are looking for?
[02:57] <sqpat> im going to look into init.d or something as was suggested. i think thats along the lines of what i assumed was proper
[02:58] <sqpat> im actually really terrible at this system administration stuff
[02:58] <speedy> sqpat,yes, i had something wonderful help me and i remeber he use init.d and cron combo with something that does checks.
[02:59] <speedy> ^^^
[03:00] <speedy> if i was bette, I would not have so much trouble as i do now.
[03:00] <speedy> setting up a minecraft network
[03:00] <sqpat> same. im sure theres a more proper way for me to setup the two tomcats as services but i think i'd cause more downtime by trying to fix that than not.
[03:01] <kawaiola> Hey all, I'm having a problem where my wireless and Ethernet card only work if I'm plugged in direct.
[03:01] <kawaiola> Has anyone ever experienced this issue?
[03:01] <speedy> i say read and study more before you go headlong.... sqpat
[03:02] <speedy> kawaiola, did you install the lan/wlan drivers?
[03:03] <rahuldev> hi i installed flash-plugin from software center, it's working on firefox, but not in chromium. anyone pls help me
[03:12] <xangua> rahuldev: for chromium you need pepper flash
[03:13] <rahuldev> thanks xangua, is it available in repo?
[03:13] <xangua> rahuldev: yes
[03:13] <rahuldev> found it! :)
[03:13] <rahuldev> thanks so much!
[03:14] <__Mike__> hello all
[03:14] <rahuldev> hello
[03:14] <__Mike__> anyone have a sec to talk about virtual machines
[03:15] <pbx> __Mike__, just dive in and ask your question
[03:15] <__Mike__> I installed virtual box and all is good, and installed win 7, do the virtual machines stay installed?
[03:15] <__Mike__> or will I have to install win 7 everytime?
[03:16] <inteus> __Mike__: its still there unless you delete it
[03:18] <__Mike__> sweet. this rocks,
[03:18] <__Mike__> kinda slow, how can I add more memory to the virtual machine?
[03:18] <__Mike__> do I have to delete and create another
[03:18] <__Mike__> or is it slow by nature
[03:19] <Blue-Smoke> Hi I was running Ubuntu 14.04 installed to a usb stick and sudenly it is not letting me save anything  saying its  Read-only filesystem and wont even mount a usb stick so I can back up things I had put on the desck top and idea how to backup the data as I think if i restrat it will not boot again
[03:19] <inteus> __Mike__: no, just edit the settings for that vm. I don't have it in front of me, so you;ll have to look through the menus
[03:19] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on?
[03:20] <__Mike__> coool, thanks so much :-)
[03:21] <anabain> anabain, btw, chown is root:root
[03:22] <sruli> anabain: so do sudo chown -R username:username /media/
[03:22] <bob2021> can someone help me pair my apple wireless keyboard with ubuntu?
[03:22] <inteus> anabain: I would think you;d need to change the chown to somethign other than root.root for a normal user to write to it
[03:23] <anabain> inteus, chmod 775 and chown root:users does the trick, but some gurus say this is bad practice, but they don't say why...
[03:25] <__Mike__> can I download a windows .exe file inside of linux and then install it in the VM?
[03:27] <Blue-Smoke> Can someone help ubuntu 14.04 saying Read-only file system when trying to save anything
[03:30] <Spacehound> Courious, If I want Back Track 4, how can I get it? The site only offers Kali 2.
[03:31] <cnnx> how can i make ubuntu run as fast as possible on an atom 2 core 4 thread 1 gb netbook ?
[03:31] <cnnx> i wanna use it for youtube videos to a tv output
[03:31] <cnnx> media center
[03:31] <cnnx> its slow now
[03:32] <xangua> cnnx: use Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu to begin with
[03:32] <cnnx> xangua: maybe i am using it, how can i check?
[03:33] <xangua> Lubuntu.org
[03:34] <sambagirl> there used to be a bunch of utilities that you could use to create your own custom versions. are any of them still around? i know suse had a studio but that is a different core from debian
[03:35] <speedy> yes sambagirl
[03:36] <sambagirl> i did in the past speedy but i dont see those tools around anymore.
[03:37] <speedy> there maybe some version of it around. maybe a remake with a different name- this is my guess
[03:37] <speedy> sambagirl,
[03:37] <sambagirl> ok
[03:37] <speedy> things have change since 10.04
[03:37] <speedy> aloot of things
[03:39] <speedy> sambagirl, https://www.linuxvoice.com/build-your-own-linux-distro/
[03:39] <speedy> https://www.maketecheasier.com/create-linux-distro/
[03:40] <sambagirl> thanks speedy
[03:40] <sambagirl> yes my favorite was 10.10 but i started with like 5.x something.
[03:42] <__Mike__> so if you are running word in a VM does it still save an actual real physical file?
[03:43] <Blue-Smoke> can anyone help? when trying to save anything on my other system its failing and saying Read-only filesystem
[03:44] <George> what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:44] <Blue-Smoke> 14.04
[03:45] <Blue-Smoke> I have it installed to a usb stick
[03:45] <nchambers> __Mike__, no. and neither does your OS. the file isn't physical nor real. its very much virtual
[03:46] <George> Blue-smoke: oh, I think I've ran into this problem before. Theres a method to solving this, but I forgot how I got around it.
[03:47] <DI3HARD139> pst upload it to an online storage service if its in a VM
[03:47] <George> Blue-smoke: did you use something like unetbootin to flash it to the drive?
[03:49] <Blue-Smoke> I tried plugging in a Usb stick to try to back up what I have saved and it says it cant mount it and that error also says Read-only file system
[03:50] <Blue-Smoke> maybe the usb stick with thw OS on it has gone bad and not allowingg writes ?
[03:50] <George> Blue-smoke: possibly.
[03:51] <George> Blue-smoke: I know one method I had of backing up a system thats been successful so far is using clone-zilla
[03:51] <Blue-Smoke> I just installed it from the 14.04 live cd but put it to a usb stick instead of a HDD
[03:52] <George> blue-smoke: so you installed ubuntu 14.04 to a HDD and you want to back it up onto a USB, right?
[03:53] <Blue-Smoke> no I installed it direct to the usb stick no HDD in the system at the moment
[03:56] <Blue-Smoke> how do I turn off seeing theas ppl joining and parting its filling the screen
[03:57] <George> blue-smoke:  I found a really big guide on the ubuntu website that might help. am I allowed to post URL's on here?
[03:57] <nchambers> Blue-Smoke, client dependent
[03:57] <Blue-Smoke> not sure but you can PM me direct if that works on here
[03:57] <squinty> if using hex or xhcat right click on channel button
[03:58] <Blue-Smoke> its webchat.freenode
[03:58] <DI3HARD139> I think its /msg for that. Dont quote me on it tho
[03:58] <squinty> switch to hexchat .... better
[03:58] <nchambers> most clients are /msg
[03:58] <nchambers> alternatively, /query
[03:59] <DI3HARD139>  /msg squinty <what ever the message is>
[04:00] <Blue-Smoke> thanks DI3HARD139
[04:00] <DI3HARD139> np
[04:02] <squinty> George,  yep url's ok as long as on topic
[04:03] <DI3HARD139> Why is this person messaging me about Islam...
[04:03] <DI3HARD139> Now the YT links....
[04:04] <squinty> DI3HARD139,  put the rascal on ignore.
[04:05] <DI3HARD139> Done and did
[04:05] <DI3HARD139> done*
[04:06] <George> Thanks Squinty
[04:07] <Blue-Smoke> I sent you a reoky george duno if you got it but thanks for the link
[04:08] <Blue-Smoke> reply*
[04:09] <Blue-Smoke> oh it was installed from the live dvd To the USB stick
[04:14] <HouseMD> yo
[04:14] <liquidsnake> yo
[04:15] <HouseMD> apparently theres islam spam here
[04:15] <liquidsnake> really i haven't seen any
[04:15] <liquidsnake> but i just logged on though
[04:15] <HouseMD> i dont see any either
[04:15] <HouseMD> but someone complained :P
[04:16] <HouseMD> anyway it does not matter
[04:16] <liquidsnake> ahhh
[04:16] <HouseMD> i had a question
[04:16] <liquidsnake> oh whats that
[04:16] <squinty> been reported... the idiot should be kicked soon
[04:16] <HouseMD> i saw it
 becasso100 is spamming with islamic preaching   please nuke
[04:17] <HouseMD> pretty much the current state of the world right now
[04:17] <squinty> off topic   please stay on topic
[04:17] <nicomachus> !ot
[04:18] <HouseMD> yeah yeah. so anyway my question was. is editing the rc.local file to include an init script for my website server a production friendly thing to do?
[04:18] <HouseMD> it works as expected in the short term absolutely but is it good/viable in the long run?
[04:21] <HouseMD> well so much for being on topic
[04:24] <JeffHoogland91> My cups daemon keeps refusing to start on Ubuntu 14.04. With the message: cupsd: Child exited on signal 15
[04:28] <shamis> Would someone please mind helping me create a script that uses the top command to log certain CPU load data at certain time intervals? I would be very grateful.
[04:28] <nicomachus> shamis, try #bash or ##bash
[04:29] <north> Hi. I am currently running Ubuntu 14.04.2 which runs on 3.16ish kernel. My wlan card has stable support from above 3.19ish. Is it advisable to install the mainline kernel ? Also how do I get other stable kernels meant for 14.04.3 ?
[04:29] <svetlana> shamis: the web suggest this one-liner to get the load at a moment in time: r=$(cat /proc/loadavg | awk -F. '{print $1}')
[04:30] <shamis> Alright thanks
[04:30] <xangua> north: you should the able to use the hardware enablement stack
[04:30] <Bashing-om> hwe | north
[04:31] <north> xangua: any pointers to it ?
[04:31] <Bashing-om> !hwe | north
[04:31] <xangua> ! Hwe
[04:31] <TJ-> north: Sounds like you currently have the utopic (now unsuppoprted hardware enablement stack). You need to upgrade to the 14.04.3 which have the v3.19 kernel from vivid.
[04:32] <north> yep. TJ- how do I do that ?
[04:32] <north> Add vivid's repos and I am good ?
[04:32] <xangua> north: did you already read what the bot said?
[04:33] <TJ-> north: the guide links already provided should show how. You'll likely need to take care to upgrade from the -lts-utopic to -lts-vivid packages
[04:34] <north> Or just download the 14.04.3 version and install it. I have had some bad experiences with upgrading previously. TJ-
[04:34] <TJ-> north: It's package upgrades from the 14.04 repository, not a release-upgrade
[04:35] <Tachaikowsky> Can someone tell me how to check md5sums after rsync to verify that copy is completed properly?
[04:36] <north> TJ-: xangua gotcha. Thanks :)
[04:36] <sruli> TJ-: hi, you told me some time ago about compiling scripts with SHC, is it secure? if i save passwords in the script is it secure?
[04:39] <TJ-> sruli: saving passwords, unencrypted/unsalted, is insecure in any place
[04:39] <sruli> TJ-: so even if its compiled there is a way to read it?
[04:39] <TJ-> Tachaikowsky: did you use rsync's --checksum option?
[04:39] <JeffHoogland91> My cups daemon keeps refusing to start on Ubuntu 14.04. With the message: cupsd: Child exited on signal 15
[04:40] <TJ-> sruli: sure, it would be trivial if it is a string, "strings" or "hexdump" or whatever and a bit of intelligence to pick it out
[04:41] <TJ-> sruli: security by obsfucation is not security
[04:41] <Tachaikowsky> I figured out the answer. Just run it with rsync with -c; and re-run rsync again after copying. The second time, it will simply validate the checksums - thus verifying that copy has happened properly.
[04:41] <TJ-> Tachaikowsky: yep "--checksum" :)
[04:46] <bob2021> can someone help me figure out how to pair an apple bluetooth keyboard with ubuntu? there are many instructions found by google butnone of them seem to work
[04:49] <steve__> jioin #rubyonrails
[04:51] <tuxtimo> hi
[04:55] <John[Lisbeth]> My amigo is trying to install ghci which is inside the package ghc. He has ghc installed, but no ghci command
[04:56] <auctus> John[Lisbeth]: howd he install it? "sudo apt install ghc" ? thats what i did i have ghci
[05:05] <TJ-> John[Lisbeth]: I suspect /usr/bin/ghci is generally a symlink, to a versioned executable. check with "ls -l /usr/bin/ghci*"
[05:11] <sruli> TJ-: the VPN script, i think you put POS in the wrong place, you put it in vpn-up, shouldn't it be in vpn-dwon?
[05:14] <TJ-> sruli: oh, good catch! I changed the sense of the operations at one point and forgot to move that
[05:17] <tidux> is there any way to upgrade curl, libcurl, OpenSSL, and curl-php5 without just doing a complete dist-upgrade?
[05:18] <sruli> TJ-: if i boot with forward drop, will the first vpn connect delete the rule?
[05:20] <xangua> tidux: compile
[05:20] <tidux> lovely
[05:21] <TJ-> sruli: the first "vpn-up" should use the "-D" operation to delete the rule, yes
[05:21] <sruli> thanks
[05:21] <TJ-> tidux: install into a chroot or container, maybe?
[05:21] <tidux> nah this has to be directly on the root filesyste
[05:22] <tidux> it's a customer's box and they're refusing to upgrade from 10.04
[05:22] <tidux> so of course everything is too old
[05:22] <TJ-> tidux: they're out of luck then; 10.04 has no support
[05:22] <tidux> I have told them that, yes
[05:22] <tidux> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[05:23] <TJ-> tidux: there's the inverse. Upgrade the system to 16.04 (in April) and then lxc/chroot a 10.04 install for the legacy stuff
[05:23] <tidux> there isn't even any magical legacy junk on this box
[05:23] <tidux> just Joomla
[05:24] <tidux> but nope, won't upgrade
[05:24] <tidux> :/
[05:24] <tidux> I think I just need to let them know this is the last hand-compiling open heart surgery I'll do on their box
[05:24] <tidux> thanks guys
[05:25] <TJ-> Sounds like a recpipe for disaster
[05:28] <sruli> TJ-: when you have a sapre minute send me the email please
[05:28] <ratiotile> I have added ppa:neovim-ppa/unstable, but when I try to install neovim, I get "Unable to locate package neovim", any ideas?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | ratiotile
[05:31] <xangua> ratiotile: sounds like you added a repository with no packages candidates for your Ubuntu release
[05:32] <ratiotile> xangua: I have 14.01, and the docs say 12.04 up are supported
[05:32] <xangua> ratiotile: there is no 14.1
[05:32] <xangua> 01
[05:33] <xangua> If you mean 14.10, it's no longer supported
[05:33] <ratiotile> yeah thats what I meant
[05:33] <ratiotile> is there any way to upgrade?
[05:33] <vprf> hello peeps
[05:35] <vprf> just spun up an AWS ubuntu image and need advice.
[05:35] <ratiotile> seriously, I'm about to go back to windows 7
[05:35] <xangua> ! Eol | ratiotile
[05:36] <ratiotile> why is 14.04 still supported? I just installed this last year
[05:36] <vprf> just wondering if there is a lightweight ui with minimal pakages and a browser?
[05:36] <xangua> ratiotile: you'll also probable need to upgrade again in a few days as 15.04 support will end too
[05:37] <xangua> 14.10>15.04>15.10
[05:39] <sruli> how can i command a ubuntu vm to poweroff after a particular reboot? i am making a script to reboot my vm after installing updates and then poweroff for a snapshot, so my script will update, reboot, poweroff, snapshot, what i don’t yet know how to do is poweroff after this reboot
[05:39] <x2xx3x> 14.04 is an LTS-version ratiotile - thats why there are still updates
[05:40] <ratiotile> well I installed the latest version at the time
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> sruli: can wake on lan help you?
[05:40] <ratiotile> and I used to have neovim v0.0.0 and now I can't even reinstall it
[05:40] <sruli> lotuspsychje: not sure how to use that for it
[05:42] <xangua> ratiotile: please read what the bot said for instructions how to upgrade or install a supported Ubuntu release
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> sruli: really depends whats your endgoal with all this
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> sruli: you want an automated system that installs updates and reboot after ?
[05:43] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i explained my endgoal, endgoal is poweroff after the reboot which comes after the update, i can do the update & the reboot, how do i do the poweroff after the reboot?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> sruli: hmm maybe there's a trick in /etc/apt in those configs, auto update and shutdown somewhere
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> sruli: i remember somsip recently showed me howto auto update there
[05:45] <sruli> lotuspsychje: i need a reboot before the shutdown, i need a snapshot after the update, so i want a reboot first
[05:46] <ratiotile> trying to figure out how to upgrade... I'm supposed to install the update manager, but "sudo aptitude install update-manager-core" fails with aptitude: command not found
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: xangua just explained it to you
[05:47] <ratiotile> From version 6.06 and up you will need to install the update-manager and update-manager-core packages. Note: You don't want to install the update-manager package on CLI-only servers.
[05:47] <ratiotile> sudo aptitude install update-manager-core update-manager
[05:47] <ratiotile> but it fails
[05:47] <ratiotile> taken from the bot's link
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[05:47] <x2xx3x> sruli, i dont get i any way... you want to run the machine into a system or not after its reboot and halt it there? or you wanna stop it before it boots into some OS? then reboot my be the wrong option. try shutdown
[05:48] <ratiotile> 14.10
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: its not recommended to upgrade from an eol...
[05:48] <x2xx3x> sry. just read it
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: would you trust your system after all exploits out?
[05:48] <ratiotile> so what, uninstall and go back to windows xp?
[05:48] <sruli> x2xx3x: i want to snapshot to be of a fully updated system hence i want a reboot and then a shutdown
[05:48] <ratiotile> at least windows works
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: no, clean install a supported ubuntu version
[05:49] <ratiotile> all right, which one would be the best
[05:49] <ratiotile> I picked the latest version last time and it was dead within a year
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: LTS would be a good choice
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: 14.04.3
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: and in april you can upgrade nicely to 16.04
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: if you choose non-lts you will need upgrade/reinstall every 9 months indeed
[05:51] <xangua> ratiotile: the Ubuntu site offers the long term release first, it also details the non LTS release will be supported just nine months
[05:51] <xiangnan> hello
[05:53] <ratiotile> is there a version that uses lightweight graphics? I want to run in a vm with 2d only
[05:53] <ratiotile> I thought there were different gui options
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: you mean xubuntu or lubuntu?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | ratiotile
[05:55] <ratiotile> yes. I'm not sure between xfce or lxde which one is better
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: lubuntu should be the lightest
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: but ive seen some systems run smoother on xubuntu...
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ratiotile: test and play for your needs
[05:56] <ratiotile> ok, so that would be LXDE, right
[05:56] <ratiotile> that's what I am using now
[05:57] <aksdfafd> how can i make ubuntu ask for a password instead of logging in automatically?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> aksdfafd: the users icon
[05:59] <x2xx3x> sruli, hmm would it work to ad a file with a shutdown command wich would be created everytime when your script initializes the reboot command? And it deletes it self with and && rm "script.file" so it would not get into a conflict at normal upstart?
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> aksdfafd: toggle off auto login
[05:59] <sruli> x2xx3x: good idea, will have to figure it out
[06:00] <x2xx3x> so a job have to be set up which watches our for a shutdown-file, and only execute it if exist.
[06:00] <sruli> x2xx3x: not sure how to tell that script to poweroff after next boot
[06:01] <x2xx3x> but delets itself in the same moment
[06:01] <x2xx3x> is this possible anyway??
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> sruli: maybe cron can assist you in any way?
[06:02] <mfitton> Hi! If anyone is familiar with shell scripting, I'd like to know how to use xargs in order to pipe input to a compiled C program.
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> mfitton: maybe the ##programming guys?
[06:02] <mfitton> For example, I want something like "ls * | xargs -P 4 -n 1 mycompiledprogram
[06:03] <mfitton> Alright, I can try over there
[06:03] <SubCool> Hey, i just booted from mfsbsd flash drive to troubleshoot something, where can i save files to on the usb so that when i plug the usb into another computer and pull them off?
[06:09] <trar> hello, I was here for this problem earlier. for the application I am trying to install, I need a higher ruby version..is there no way to upgrade ruby?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: didnt you asked this yesterday?
[06:10] <MerchantOfVenice> oops..caught in the act :)
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !latest | MerchantOfVenice
[06:11] <MerchantOfVenice> yes, as I also mentioned..but it will be too much work to try it on 15.10.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: you will break your system if you dont use ruby version for your specific ubuntu version...
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | MerchantOfVenice or try this at your own risk...
[06:12] <MerchantOfVenice> ok. interesting. I remember having upgraded some other packages.
[06:15] <MerchantOfVenice> ok, I'll figure which way to go about it, without upgrade..and without asking once more :) thank you again lotuspsychje
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: remember the easiest way would be 15.10 or 16.04 development branch to get you higher ruby
[06:18] <MerchantOfVenice> lotuspsychje, yes, 15.10. nevertheless seems to be the one for me, thank you!
[06:21] <MerchantOfVenice> have a good day / night!
[06:24] <Seveas> MerchantOfVenice: you can install your own ruby version into /usr/local, but you'll have to maintain it on your own.
[06:27] <MerchantOfVenice> Seveas, it'd be needed for a framework installation. maybe it'll work cleaner if I have just one version on the system..
[06:28] <Seveas> MerchantOfVenice: I agree, so updating to 15.10 may be better for you. Upgrades are simple, fast and safe.
[06:29] <MerchantOfVenice> can I directly upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10.?
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: not recommended
[06:29] <cfhowlett> MerchantOfVenice, nope.  14.04 > 14.10 > 15.04 > 15.10   OR wait until april for 16.04
[06:30] <MerchantOfVenice> oh, I think it still takes shorter to do step by step :)
[06:30] <Seveas> MerchantOfVenice: possible, but not supported or recommended. Higher chance of something breaking during the upgrade, requiring you to know what to do to manually fix failing package installs.
[06:30] <Dr_Manhattan> aw dude. I hope 16.04 uses a better choice of kernels than 14.04 did
[06:30] <cfhowlett> MerchantOfVenice, 14.04 to 16.04 is a direct upgrade
[06:30] <Dr_Manhattan> I had to force it up to 3.19
[06:31] <MerchantOfVenice> cfhowlett, yes, but april is a bit of long stretch :)
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Manhattan: nothing wrong with 14.04...
[06:31] <xangua> Dr_Manhattan: well 3.19 wasn't aviable when 14.04 was released...
[06:31] <cfhowlett> MerchantOfVenice, for some.  I only use LTS releases for xmas comes every 2 years for my machine.
[06:31] <Dr_Manhattan> yeah, 3.13 is just wonderful.
[06:31] <xangua> Because...you know...time and space
[06:34] <Seveas> ye cannae break the laws of physics
[06:35] <layan> wher the shop buy ubuntu phone ?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> !touch | layan
[06:35] <xangua> layan: Europe
[06:35] <layan> im from srilanka
[06:36] <MerchantOfVenice> cfhowlett, I'd otherwise wait for LTS, too, but just for this install I need 15.10. now
[06:37] <MerchantOfVenice> to get a higher ruby version
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> layan: buy a nexus4 somewhere and put ubuntu touch on it, join #ubuntu-touch for details
[06:37] <layan> lotuspsychje : no any case ?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> layan: pardon?
[06:38] <layan> lotuspsychje : i mean problem ?
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> layan: what problem
[06:38] <hateball> MerchantOfVenice: there's also the option of going to 16.04 while in development, but be aware of possible breakage
[06:39] <layan> lotuspsychje : i don't no, you Test Nexus4 and Ubuntu touch os dual boot
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> layan: type /join #ubuntu-touch
[06:40] <MerchantOfVenice> hateball, with 16.04. I'd rather wait till april :)
[06:41] <hateball> MerchantOfVenice: I'm just saying it's an option :)
[06:42] <MerchantOfVenice> sure, I got it :)
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> MerchantOfVenice: time for action now :p
[06:43] <gambl0re> how do you open a dir from inside the terminal?
[06:44] <hateball> gambl0re: What do you mean by "open" ?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> gambl0re: cd yourdir
[06:44] <gambl0re> nevermind got it..
[06:44] <gambl0re> nautilus .
[06:48] <karidoe> Hi, the unity app launcher bar and the topbar goe disappear right after logging in
[06:49] <karidoe> may somebody help me, please/
[06:52] <MerchantOfVenice> alright, diving in..thank you all for your help! :) have a good day / night!
[07:12] <ramb> how to make cd case insensitve
[07:13] <ramb> eg cd and fo and pressing tab would say Foo
[07:15] <somsip> ramb: possibly some use of shopt (not sure if autocomplete will work though) http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/The-Shopt-Builtin.html
[07:16] <artois> https://www.google.com/search?q=bash%20tab%20complete%20case%20insensitively
[07:17] <somsip> ramb: I use these in .bash_alias so if I "cd temp" it will automatically "cd Temp" for example http://pastebin.com/BiW6gJpF
[07:17] <somsip> * .bash_aliases
[07:17] <somsip> !google | artois
[07:21] <geirha> ramb: bind 'set completion-ignore-case on'
[07:21] <geirha> that will apply to all completions, not just cd though
[07:31] <artois> somsip: !eggsucking
[07:34] <Hanumaan> Str@ng3r
[07:42] <LoneShark> Quit
[07:45] <xiaoqiao> hello
[07:52] <stevenm> hey I installed 14.04 without using LVM/LUKS... can I some how zip/tar up my existing filesystem - re-install and then replace the files?
[07:52] <stevenm> would that be the easiest way to enable all that LVM/LUKS goodness (in the default layout) *after* I've been using my system for months ... and no I don't want to re-install everything
[07:55] <artois> stevenm: you can do that, yeah
[07:55] <artois> but very little of the OS will be unique, it might be simpler to reinstall, depending on how much personal data you have
[07:55] <stevenm> artois, lots of personal data and lots of apps installed from 3rd parties and compiled myself
[07:56] <stevenm> would take days to get my system fully back to how it was
[07:59] <stevenm> artois, on a default LVM/LUKS install... as far as the contents of the ext4 fs (mounted on /) that is on the LVM LV, inside the crypt partition.... are any of those files aware of their own circumstances?
[07:59] <artois> I don't think so, no
[07:59] <stevenm> i.e. will some bits of /etc for example (except for maybe fstab which is an obvious one) need to be adjusted?
[07:59] <artois> you just need an encrypted lv to copy them to
[07:59] <artois> https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20migrate%20to%20luks
[08:03] <s3012> выаыва
[08:03] <s3012> ываыв
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !ru | s3012
[08:03] <s3012> ыва
[08:03] <s3012> ыва
[08:03] <s3012> ыва
[08:04] <s3012> ныкыс
[08:04] <s3007> писька
[08:04] <s3012> ахахах
[08:04] <s3007> дыбыл
[08:26] <helpwithwifi> Looking for help on wifi, I have hp pavillion brand new 2016, formatted and installed linux. The realtek network card does not function properly. It detects home network only and fails to detect other public networks when out and about
[08:27] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: did you have to define a network connection profile for your home network for it to work, or is that auto-discovered ?
[08:28] <helpwithwifi> #TJ it was auto discovered.
[08:29] <satinder> Hi , Can we use inotifywait for eth0
[08:29] <satinder> for checking the ethernet status
[08:29] <satinder> anyone can help please
[08:29] <helpwithwifi> It auto discovers whenever it feels like it. I had tethered from another phone that it auto discovered as well but no public networks such as starbucks etc. But I have used ubuntu before #TJ
[08:30] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: I'm trying to determine if the problem is lack of a network scan. So, at home, to be clear, you don't have a saved connection profile at all, and manually re-enter the passphrase each time it connects? if the passphrase is saved then there's an (automatically created) profile
[08:31] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: could it be due to the frequency band the device is operating in. E.g. its only using 802.11a and those public networks are all 802.11g
[08:32] <TJ-> satinder: inotify is for the file-system. Ethernet status is via tools like 'ip'
[08:32] <helpwithwifi> #TJ you are right. The network profile is saved at home but the phone we tethered from wasn't saved one. So yes, it could be the bandwidth that it is failing to detect? What could be the solution to it?
[08:32] <satinder> ok
[08:32] <gj|work> I'm going to set up a LX-Container to run a Desktop based on Trusty. I neary works out of the box, but there is a problem with the user session management: If i log in -- either via GUI or via ssh -- there is no session listed by 'loginctl'. From this, i e.g. can't do actions requirering authorisation via the desktop. Please, how to debug or solve this?
[08:33] <satinder> TJ : can we check sys/class/net/eth0/carrier with ip tool
[08:33] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: to force a manual scan (and see what band(s) it is scanning) do "sudo iwlist <IFNAME> scan"
[08:34] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: also, as generally the network is under control of Network Manager, check /var/log/syslog when you are in a problematic location, see if it is reporting network scans and if so, which band(s) it is scanning
[08:35] <satinder> TJ : There have any ip tool which can detect carrier 0 or 1
[08:35] <satinder> like inotifywait
[08:35] <satinder> functionality
[08:35] <helpwithwifi> #TJ Sorry for ignorance, what is IFSCAN here? It gives an error no such file or directory.
[08:38] <satinder> ???
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> !patience | satinder
[08:39] <satinder> lotuspsychje : ok sir
[08:39] <gj|work> satinder: 'ip monitor' ?
[08:40] <satinder> gj|work : thanks ! I will try it
[08:41] <TJ-> helpwithwifi: that's the name of your system's wifi interface. You'd need to check on what it is. "iwconfig" is a good tool to do that
[08:42] <helpwithwifi> #TJ it says interface does not support scanning. It is a realtek network card on hp laptop. I deleted windows very first day.\
[08:43] <satinder> gj|work : I want on 1 or 0 return if cable connected then 1 or else 0 , like something there have any linux api
[08:44] <gj|work> satinder: I don't used it for that. But maybe it's suitable, refer to the man page ip-monitor.
[08:45] <gj|work> satinder: You want to pulling test or you want to get a callback?
[08:45] <TJ-> satinder: the init system, or Network Manager, generally handle that
[08:46] <satinder> TJ : Actually I have C program , that getting input from ethernet cable , I want when ethernet cable connected that will run and when disconnected that will stop
[08:47] <swatti> anyone using NVIDIA SLI(ultrabay) ubuntu 14.04 32bit(notebook)?
[08:47] <satinder> then I think about inotifywait but that is only file file system events
[08:47] <TJ-> satinder: if the program only has to be started when the link is up, you could start it via a systemd-udevd service/rule
[08:48] <satinder> TJ : how ??
[08:48] <satinder> any example
[08:48] <satinder> I also want when cable disconnect program will be kill automatically
[08:50] <TJ-> satinder: for that your program would monitor the netlink  state
[08:51] <alexf> hello friends. Does anyone know offhand what script is invoked when you put ubuntu into suspend mode?
[08:51] <gj|work> satinder: Hey - maybe the 'ifplugd' is suitable for your means. From a short read oft the manpage, you may run scripts on state changes.
[08:51] <satinder> ok
[08:51] <satinder> gj|work : I will try it
[08:51] <satinder> thanks
[08:53] <gj|work> satinder: I also found 'netplugd' as some similar.
[08:54] <satinder> gj|work : I want just status off cable like 0 or 1
[08:54] <satinder> for trigger or stop my c program
[08:55] <gj|work> satinder: I read it as you want to start/stop a process on this.
[08:55] <alexf> I ask because I'm trying to run scripts on suspend, and adding them to /etc/pm/sleep.d/ doesn't seem to fit my needs
[08:55] <satinder> gj|work : ifplugd wants root user
[08:55] <satinder> but that is impossible
[08:55] <satinder> for me
[08:56] <sun> ..
[08:56] <gj|work> satinder: of course.
[08:56] <satinder> gj|work : but I don't allow for root user
[08:57] <sun> good  night
[08:57] <gj|work> satinder: May i ask: Why do you want to start/stop you process?
[08:58] <satinder> gj|work : because my program taking feed from ethernet cable
[08:58] <gj|work> satinder: What do you mean by "taking feed"?
[08:59] <TJ-> satinder: in which case use Linux's SIOCGIFFLAGS to get the state for the interface
[09:00] <satinder> gj|work : data
[09:00] <satinder> stream
[09:00] <satinder> TJ : i don't know about that flag
[09:01] <gj|work> satinder: UDP?
[09:01] <satinder>  yes
[09:02] <gj|work> satinder: Then I start to understand you motivation. Because in case of TCP it's pointless.
[09:03] <TJ-> satinder: This isn't really an Ubuntu issue, check one of the programming channels, but something like "struct ifreq ifr; /* get a socket file-descriptor */ ioctl(fd, SIOCGIFFLAGS, %ifr); then "if (ifr->ifr_flags & IFF_UP) printf("Interface %s\n", "up");
[09:03] <satinder> gj|work : that is rtsp
[09:04] <gj|work> TJ-: Younger people ... :)
[09:05] <sun> 啊
[09:05] <sun> 能说汉语吗
[09:05] <satinder> gj|work  : I just want a blocking event which give me status of ethernet cable ether 0 or 1
[09:05] <satinder> TJ : ??
[09:05] <sun> CHINA？
[09:05] <TJ-> satinder: I've just shown you how. Now please take your question to a programming or network channel; it isn't an Ubuntu support issue
[09:06] <somsip> !zh | sun
[09:06] <sun> 我英语不好
[09:06] <satinder> TJ : ok sir thanks for giving your time
[09:06] <satinder> :)
[09:06] <TJ-> satinder: tip: "man 7 netdevice"
[09:07] <gj|work> TJ-: And where to ask *my* question?
[09:15] <TJ-> gj|work: your LXC issue?
[09:18] <Linus_> TJ-: how is "man 7 netdevice"  !=  "man netdevice"
[09:18] <Linus_> what is the difference, i mean
[09:19] <Amoz> Linus_, semantically, nothing.
[09:19] <TJ-> Linus_: the number is the section the page is in. Some names have entries in multiple sections
[09:20] <TJ-> Linus_: to prevent possible ambiguity, I give the number, else the page I'm reading might be different to the page the other person reads (dependent on what packages are installed)
[09:20] <Linus_> hmmmm, when i do ""man 7 netdevice"  it still opens on Page 1
[09:22] <Linus_> TJ-: wait a sec,   i dont even see page numbers... Just "line numbers"..  both commands start at  "line 1"
[09:24] <TJ-> Linus_: look at the status line at the bottom of the man page "netdevice(7)"
[09:25] <TJ-> Linus_: it's not a page number as in books, it's a 'section' number the file is in, under /usr/share/man/manX/ where X is the section number
[09:26] <TJ-> Linus_: try with "man open" "man 2 open" man 3 open" and see
[09:27] <gj|work> TJ-: Yes - the LXC ./. Ubuntu Desktop issue.
[09:27] <ttal> anyone here using xchat? I have xchat in the envelope icon on the panel at the top and I want to get rid of it. Is there any way?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> ttal, xchat is abandonware.  use hexchat instead
[09:28] <TJ-> gj|work: are you using an unprivleged container?
[09:29] <ttal> cfhowlett:  oh really, i thought it was the other way round. ok will replace with hexchat and see how it is.
[09:31] <Linus_> alias man='man --nj --nh  # i add this to  .bashrc
[09:31] <Linus_> it make MAN easier to read  :)
[09:31] <Linus_> any other tricks like that for MAN?
[09:31] <Linus_> man --nj --nh
[09:37] <gj|work> TJ-: Sorry for time lag. It's an "full-priv" container on my own server.
[09:41] <hasselmm> is that a know issue, that vsync only works for the first opengl application with 15.10 and ivybridge gpu?
[09:42] <TJ-> gj|work: OK, so no uid mapping. might be worth asking Serge Hallyn the lxc maintainer
[09:42] <swatti> anyone using NVIDIA SLI(ultrabay) ubuntu 14.04 32bit(notebook)?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> swatti, avoid "anyone else" type questions.  stating YOUR problems with YOUR details leads to actual answers.
[09:43] <TJ-> gj|work: try #lxcontainers or #ubuntu-devel
[09:45] <Amoz> well this is annoying.. I'm having crashes on 15.10, in libgdk when trying to do anything in the synapse launcher. Launching it from inside gdb in a tty (e.g.ctrl+alt+4) makes it work, so I can't catch the full backtrace from there. I'm lost, any hints?
[09:46] <hendri> hi
[09:47] <hendri> pleas help me guys... i can't install JDK and Neatbeans
[09:48] <hendri> hello
[09:48] <hendri> everyone can help me
[09:48] <hendri> pleas
[09:48] <hendri> hello
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !patience | hendri
[09:49] <Amoz> hendri, "can't" is not a good description
[09:49] <hendri> why..??
[09:49] <Amoz> try to clearly state what you've tried, and *when* it goes wrong
[09:49] <Amoz> because otherwise it's impossible for us to help you
[09:49] <hendri> -_-
[09:49] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:49] <cfhowlett> !details > hendri Ms. Cleo has gone to bed already.  no details >> no answers
[09:49] <hendri> hello to Max
[09:50] <hendri> oke oke fine
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> Hello, when i run apt-get update I get the following error
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-foreign-architecture/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> I can't see anything wrong with sources.list
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> I've never manually edited it
[09:51] <jiggerypokery> any suggestions?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> jiggerypokery, more /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999             let's see
[09:52] <jiggerypokery> http://termbin.com/6qh4 thar goes
[09:52] <cfhowlett> jiggerypokery, yep nothing strange leaps out.
[09:53] <jiggerypokery> what is next port of call?
[09:53] <cfhowlett> jiggerypokery, perhaps a quick rebuild of sources ... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[09:54] <Amoz> I've never seen "binary-foreign-architecture" before, what's that?
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> no idea
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> W: Failed to fetch http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-foreign-architecture/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[09:55] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: you messed up a "dpkg --add-architecture" didn't you?
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> I don't recall ever running that command TJ-
[09:55] <jiggerypokery> doesn't mean it wasn't run
[09:56] <jiggerypokery> i did have problems with dpkg a couple months back
[09:56] <jiggerypokery> so it is entirely likely
[09:56] <Amoz> there is no main/binary-foreign-architecture/Packages in the repo files, so at least it's not lying :)
[09:56] <jiggerypokery> hurrah
[09:56] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: really? that "binary-foreign-architecture" part tells me that "dpkg --add-architecture foreign-architecture" was run
[09:57] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: what does "cat /var/lib/dpkg/arch" report? I bet you have "foreign-architecture" in there
[09:57] <jiggerypokery> yeah it does TJ-
[09:57] <jiggerypokery> pretty sharp, you
[09:57] <jiggerypokery> so what do?
[09:57] <gj|work> TJ-: I got no answers from the lxc guy's yet. I fear they treat it as a "Desktop Linux2 problem. And most of it (like me) are using LXC on headless servers with headless containers. This Desktop Container is my private thing at home.
[09:58] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: right; "sudo dpkg --remove-architecture foreign-architecture" then "sudo apt-get update"
[09:58] <MaxFrames> I have a problem with Remmina used to RDP to a Windows Server 2003 machine. The machine is up and running and accepts RDP connections from other clients (namely RDP client for Windows) but the attemp to connect to it with Remmina fails
[09:58] <jiggerypokery> perfect
[09:58] <jiggerypokery> thank you TJ-
[09:58] <TJ-> gj|work: Serge has written a few blog posts about using lxc on desktop, but usually in the context of isolating individual applications, not the entire session
[09:58] <cfhowlett> TJ-, nice work!
[09:58] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: now, before you go!
[09:59] <jiggerypokery> all ears!
[09:59] <MaxFrames> I have googled the issue and found that I should edit/delete a file called known_hosts but I can't find it on my system
[09:59] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: it is very possible that when that incorrect command was run you meant to do something else and got it wrong
[09:59] <jiggerypokery> 100% sure thats the case
[09:59] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: is the host's first (primary) architecture "amd64" or "i386" ?
[09:59] <Amoz> MaxFrames, in .ssh
[09:59] <MaxFrames> besides the issue is slightly different because I don't get a connection error/certificate error, I just get an infinite "connecting to host..." window
[09:59] <Amoz> MaxFrames, specifically your home dir
[10:00] <Amoz> MaxFrames, it should be seen when  ls ~/.ssh/
[10:00] <MaxFrames> Amoz: what would the actual path be?
[10:00] <Amoz> TJ-, he's on amd64
[10:00] <MaxFrames> I have tried to do ls ~/.ssh/ and I got a "no such file or dir" error
[10:00] <gj|work> TJ-: I know that. I'm very familiar with LXC in principle, and with server things. But not even on this level with any Desktop Linux, it's workflows and processes.
[10:00] <jiggerypokery> amd64 afaik, its my desktop
[10:01] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: OK, you'd have seen "amd64" as the first line of the /var/lib/dpkg/arch file
[10:01] <jiggerypokery> correct
[10:02] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: so, on that assumption, I suspect what you really meant to do back when the incorrect command was run, was to add the i386 architecture for multilibs. The correct command - which you can run now - is "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update"
[10:02] <jiggerypokery> i386 was in the dpkg arch file too
[10:02] <jiggerypokery> so no need, right?
[10:02] <MaxFrames> Amoz: so given the file is not there, where else should I look? I've done a "find file" on the whole file system including hidden files, no matches
[10:02] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: that allows both amd64 and i386 packages to be installed... that faulty URI will now become ".../binary-i386/..."
[10:03] <TJ-> jiggerypokery: correct, if it is there already, you are good to go
[10:03] <jiggerypokery> amazing, thank you very much indeed
[10:03] <swatti> cfhowlett ok, i use lenovo y510p sli ultrabay sys u14.04lts, only single card working and sli not. i try nv 331 340 and 352 dirver...result stopping-system-runlevel-v-compatibility -> balck screen
[10:03] <MaxFrames> besides, how do I get the "~" symbol on a netbook keyboard (no numeric keypad)?
[10:04] <MaxFrames> to do that command I had to google a page and copy and paste it...
[10:04] <jiggerypokery> iirc correctly I ran out of space on /boot and accidently deleted the kernal I had installed
[10:04] <jiggerypokery> this was months ago
[10:04] <Amoz> MaxFrames, I'm not sure known_hosts is used with RDP, is it?
[10:04] <gj|work> TJ-: the blog-post you mentioned are by Stéphane, i think. But anyway, i may try it on #ubuntu-devel...
[10:05] <jiggerypokery> I resolved it, and it only started complaining the other day
[10:06] <MaxFrames> Amoz: by my research it appears it is
[10:06] <MaxFrames> ok F6 gives me the tilde
[10:07] <Amoz> MaxFrames, have you tried checking if the host is at all reachable from the client?
[10:07] <MaxFrames> yes, it is reachable
[10:08] <MaxFrames> I've ruled out firewall issues (I'm connecting with a vpn, and the IP is fixed, that IP can RDP, and other machines in vpn with that IP can RDP)
[10:09] <Amoz> MaxFrames,if you start the client from a shell you'll see some output that might help to debug
[10:12] <TJ-> gj|work: I was on about https://s3hh.wordpress.com which I'm pretty sure is hallyn
[10:13] <jstephan> He guys, I am playing around with Ubuntu Core (snappy) on Raspberry, My project is in Python, any idea how I can get pip and compile some modules I need?
[10:14] <gj|work> TJ-: Of course.
[10:14] <swatti> cfhowlett :) left.. joke
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> jstephan: maybe the #snappy or ubuntu arm guys know better?
[10:14] <jstephan> okay... thx
[10:16] <gj|work> TJ-: The one i remembered was mentioned at https://linuxcontainers.org/lxc/articles/. But this all are just blog-posts about working things, not about the little or big problems you run into ;)
[10:16] <MoonTiger> hi guys - i have a problem with autostarting thinkfan on ubuntu 14.04
[10:16] <viktor_> hi. is it normal for gparted to take as much as 20+ minutes to resize my disk from 290gb to 195gb?
[10:16] <MoonTiger> viktor_, yes it can be quite normal
[10:17] <hateball> viktor_: if you're shrinking it has to move the data, so yes it can take a long time
[10:17] <MoonTiger> does anybody know why adding autostart=yes to /etc/default/thinkfan would cause ubuntu to ask for root pw on boot?
[10:18] <TJ-> gj|work: the reason I mentioned it is I'm pretty sure I saw an article about running a desktop session, and I thought it was on hallyn's blog... I may be wrong, I've read lots of different articles on that over time.
[10:18] <TJ-> gj|work: when you say 'loginctl' doesn't show the session; do you mean run from the host, or within the container?
[10:18] <ttal> cfhowlett: any idea why this is on my panel? http://snag.gy/4i4q6.jpg
[10:19] <cfhowlett> ttal, I take it you purged xchat?
[10:19] <ttal> cfhowlett: yes i did.
[10:20] <ttal> ill try logout / restart
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ttal, I'm on xubuntu so I have a different set up.  However, when I have replaced xchat, the launcher remains.  I edit the launcher to point to hexchat and all is well.  Can't advise how you might do that on unity, however.
[10:20] <gj|work> TJ-: On the host, there is not such stuff. It's a headless server running Gentoo. But it's ordinary PC hardware. For the "Desktop Container", i "physical" reached in the inout/output devices like video, keyboard and mouse. This all is already working well.
[10:21] <DamienDoumer> Hello every one please i'm a new ubuntu user and I after installing ubuntu 15.04 I cant boot my windows 10 OS
[10:21] <DamienDoumer> please help
[10:22] <cfhowlett> DamienDoumer, 15.04?  end of life.  install 15.10
[10:22] <ntz> hello
[10:22] <gj|work> TJ-: The server is a homeserver for routing, NAS, media streaming, audio rendering and so on. Now, it should be temporary used as a workstation, too.
[10:23] <DamienDoumer> thanks but I really need back my windows O.S now
[10:23] <DamienDoumer> please do any one have a solution ?
[10:23] <ttal> cfhowlett: derp.. logging out fixed it.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> DamienDoumer, then ask ##windows how to repair your boot
[10:24] <DamienDoumer> thanks I'll try that now
[10:24] <ntz> answering the question of one customer about ubuntu and not having ubuntu at all .... does ubu contain working apt-cron package like debian ?
[10:24] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, when you installed ubuntu did you do "use whole disk" ?
[10:24] <MoonTiger> ntz, ubuntu is based on debian
[10:25] <ntz> MoonTiger: sure, I know so can you please reply my question ?
[10:25] <TJ-> gj|work: I was looking at what loginctrl does to get the list of sessions. It calls sys_getcpu() but it also opens a netlink socket to /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[10:25] <ntz> ++to my
[10:25] <MoonTiger> ntz, so then it either will be installed by default or can be installed with a simple apt-get install
[10:26] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger no I created apartition
[10:26] <DamienDoumer> for the instalation
[10:26] <ntz> I asked if someone can share his experience with this and tell me if 1) it is there, 2) if it is working
[10:26] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, did it not ask you if you wanted to install GRUB ?
[10:26] <gj|work> TJ-: I'll attach remote to the box to check for this socket.
[10:27] <MoonTiger> ntz, why don't you boot a live ubuntu usb stick and see for yourself?
[10:27] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger no it didnt ask me
[10:27] <TJ-> gj|work: I ran "strace logctl" to check it
[10:27] <TJ-> gj|work: grrr, typo!  "strace loginctl"
[10:28] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, that's odd - are you super sure you did a new partition? in file manager (nautilus) do you see your windows partition still there?
[10:28] <farooghkz> hi.
[10:28] <farooghkz> what will happen if i do dis?
[10:29] <farooghkz> > /dev/fd0
[10:29] <ntz> MoonTiger: because it's enough to ask here .... or isn't it ? am I expected in #solaris to tell to the stranger "why don't you install solaris vm?", nope, I'm already gwrown up
[10:29] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (Some gurus advice against chown 775 plus chwown root:user , but as they were laughing at the newbie, they weren't willing to provide real advice)
[10:29] <MoonTiger> farooghkz, you'll redirect whatever came first to the floppy drive device
[10:29] <gj|work> TJ-: There's this socket and a pid file at /run/dbus/
[10:30] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger before installing this is what I did
[10:30] <MoonTiger> ntz, maybe nobody can answer your exact question right now so seeing for yourself is easier or quicker? who is talking about solaris?
[10:30] <DamienDoumer> I went to my windows os, created a new partition then deleted it so that it should be totally freee
[10:30] <cfhowlett> as this is UBUNTU support, solaris is obviously completely off-topic and better not discussed at all.
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> then I installed ubuntu on it,
[10:31] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, look in the file manager to see if your windows partition is still there
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> MoonTiger my windows partition is accesible via ubuntu
[10:31] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, during install you get asked for how you want to install ubuntu - you chose the "other" option then did you?
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> it is still there and I can access all of my files
[10:31] <gj|work> TJ-: There's a seat at /run/systemd/seats/ but no users at /run/systemd/users/
[10:31] <farooghkz> moontiger, i cant understand.i know that cmd will clear all bytes in a usaul file but idk what will happen 4 my floppy
[10:31] <DamienDoumer> yeah I choosed other
[10:31] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, ah ok then it's just the boot manager that needs repairing
[10:32] <DamienDoumer> yeah but please how can I repair it
[10:32] <MoonTiger> there is a "boot repair" app for ubuntu that will fix your dual boot
[10:32] <MoonTiger> then you can pick which you want to run at boot time
[10:32] <cfhowlett> DamienDoumer, again, repairing windows boot is a ##windows issue.  ask there.
[10:32] <Naruni> hi all, im new to ubuntu with a little bit of linux experience. How can I manually add a repo for the most up to date version of virt-manager? I'm currently using 1.0.1 and my software update says there is no newer software avail, but I know there is version 1.2.1 listed here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager
[10:33] <MoonTiger> cfhowlett, not really - installing ubuntu "broke" it so it is only fair we help him repair it no?
[10:33] <TJ-> gj|work: does the journalctl show any actual login activity? In other words, is this a case of there being systemd-logind service records, but you can't see them, or no records at all?
[10:33] <DamienDoumer> ok got it.
[10:33] <MoonTiger> DamienDoumer, install "boot repair" and let it do its thing
[10:34] <cfhowlett> MoonTiger, he stated he doesn't care about ubuntu, just wanted windows so ...
[10:34] <MoonTiger> cfhowlett, fair enough
[10:34] <anabain> and btw, the chmod/chown thing did the trick
[10:35] <DamienDoumer> OK thanks MoonTiger I'll do that right now
[10:36] <MoonTiger> ok outty bbfn
[10:37] <farooghkz> i didnt understand
[10:37] <cfhowlett> farooghkz, I did. just let it go ...
[10:38] <Naruni> hello?
[10:38] <farooghkz> hi
[10:39] <Naruni> oh hi, i wasnt sure if my last line got sent out or not
[10:39] <farooghkz> cfhowlett, what?
[10:40] <Naruni> i guess more specifically id like to know how to tell package manager to use a specific repo for a specific piece of software
[10:41] <farooghkz> guys, what happen for my floppy
[10:41] <farooghkz> did i format it?
[10:42] <Volkodav> Hi! I am fighting with this dependency for a while now http://paste.ubuntu.com/14589555/. Tried different things to no avail
[10:47] <eviladmin> farooghkz: don't copy that floppy!
[10:48] <Naruni> really? nobody here can help out with repo stuff?
[10:49] <eviladmin> Naruni: did you check the manpages?
[10:50] <OerHeks> Naruni, if you *need* 1.2.1, upgrade to xenial, but it is in development. wait until april for release.
[10:50] <Naruni> eviladmin: yep, it doesnt say how to specify the xenial repo for virt-manager
[10:50] <OerHeks> Naruni, you don't mix versions
[10:51] <Naruni> oerheks: im confused than, how do i use more up-to-date software?
[10:51] <Naruni> then*
[10:51] <OerHeks> wait until it is tested, or build yourself
[10:52] <Sandman> I was wondering if anybody using the Asus H170 Pro Gaming board. I want to know if it supports VT-D
[10:52] <farooghkz> eviladmin, y?
[10:52] <eviladmin> Naruni: read it again, check the -t flag to apt
[10:52] <eviladmin> or just give dpkg the url to the package
[10:52] <eviladmin> hmm, actually just apt-get install foo/bar might work these days
[10:53] <eviladmin> you can ofcourse also pin the package
[10:54] <OerHeks> eviladmin, how does that help Naruni with newer packages that are not in the repo yet?
[10:55] <Naruni> sudo apt-get -t=xenial install virt-manager results in E: The value 'xenial' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
[10:55] <eviladmin> OerHeks: uhm, he just asked how to use a spesific repo for a spesific package
[10:55] <eviladmin> OerHeks: I asume he have already added the repo to his list
[10:56] <OerHeks> don't mix them, xenial repo in wily
[10:56] <Naruni> that's my question, i want to use the xenial version of virt-manager
[10:56] <eviladmin> (also dpkg with a url would obviously work evne if it was not enabled)
[10:56] <eviladmin> even*
[10:57] <Naruni> and i would try to use a direct URL however this layout is not quite that easy to find a direct link
[10:57] <Naruni> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/1:1.2.1-4ubuntu1
[11:04] <Flannel> Naruni: So, Ubuntu releases have a particular (major/minor) version of software that doesn't change per release.  So the correct answer to "how do I upgrade virt-manager to 1.2.1" would be "wait a few months for 16.04".
[11:05] <macopython> I am not able to send email from my Ubuntu VM using Golang application. Any help ?
[11:05] <Seveas> macopython: local mta or remote mta?
[11:06] <macopython> What is MTA ?
[11:06] <Flannel> Naruni: With that said, it *appears* that, if the package dependencies are accurate, you *should* be able to get away with downloading and installing the xenial version (along with a few key xenial dependencies), while using 15.10 software for the rest.  This is *not* the case for arbitrary packages.  But in this particular situation, the dependencies are pretty lax.
[11:06] <macopython> I am using my gmail acc
[11:06] <Seveas> so, remote MTA. What's the error?
[11:06] <macopython> sending email to another gmail ac
[11:06] <macopython> Its working on native ubuntu
[11:06] <eviladmin> golang has a smtp lib you can use to use the gmail smtp server
[11:07] <eviladmin> use to send trough*
[11:07] <macopython> Error is dial tcp 74.125.68.109:587: connection refused
[11:07] <macopython> I used same
[11:07] <eviladmin> https://github.com/golang/go/wiki/SendingMail
[11:07] <CIclops> hi started an update for 14.01 and was told to do a partial update, it worked ok (removed a lot of packages) and restated ok. Now Skype has gone and won't install from the software center ...
[11:07] <eviladmin> macopython: you have to do the auth properly
[11:08] <Seveas> macopython: so fix your local firewall to let it through.
[11:08] <eviladmin> macopython: either allow "insecure applications", or do propper auth
[11:08] <Seveas> eviladmin: he's not even near authenticating yet if he getes connection refused :)
[11:08] <Seveas> gets*
[11:08] <macopython> Its working on native Ubuntu but not on VM
[11:08] <macopython> I don't think it has auth issue
[11:09] <Naruni> Flannel: thanks, I think I got some things figured out here. I added the xenial repo to the end of my sources.list then ran software updater to update the lists only and cancelled the update.
[11:09] <Naruni> now im in synaptic and it tells me that 1.2.1 is available so im just going to do that then remove the xenial repo and run update again
[11:09] <Flannel> Naruni: If you want to try this, and keep in mind it's not officially supported, you'll need to download virt-manager and virtinst from xenial, and everything else should be usable from your repositories.
[11:09] <eviladmin> macopython: https://support.google.com/a/answer/176600?hl=en
[11:10] <Flannel> Naruni: You can get those here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/virtinst and http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/virt-manager  (at the bottom on the left half)
[11:10] <eviladmin> macopython: well should have said that to begin with
[11:10] <Flannel> Naruni: You'll want to install virtinst first, then virt-manager, of course.
[11:10] <Naruni> flannel: it's telling me to reboot, ill brb
[11:10] <Flannel> Naruni: That may end badly.  But go ahead and try it if you don't mind breaking things :)
[11:11] <Naruni> flannel, nah i know enough about computers to not be worried about breaking it right now
[11:11] <Moonchild> Is there a powermac user?
[11:12] <roby_> $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so -> $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/budus.so
[11:12] <cfhowlett> roby_, xchat is abandonware.  hexchat is the supported replacement
[11:12] <macopython> @eviladmin: I don't see anything imp in link
[11:12] <roby_> la gazzetta dello sport
[11:12] <macopython> It has issue in VM only
[11:13] <cfhowlett> !il | roby_
[11:13] <Naruni> flannel, virt-manager --version now shows 1.2.1
[11:13] <cfhowlett> !it | roby_ sorry, wrong trigger
[11:13] <Naruni> everything else is still running on 'W' repo (sorry i remember remember these stupid names)
[11:13] <eviladmin> macopython: I said it before you said it only failed in you vm (but silly lag...)
[11:14] <eviladmin> macopython: this is why you should give all info up front
[11:14] <eviladmin> macopython: what kind if networking are you doing with your vm?
[11:14] <eviladmin> nat? direct access? tun/tap?
[11:15] <macopython> NAT and Hostonly
[11:15] <macopython> I can visit sites in browser
[11:15] <macopython> Also can ping smtp.gmail.com
[11:15] <macopython> disabled  firewall
[11:16] <acosonic> when I type time in console I get only zeros... ? How to I get current time and timezone on server?
[11:16] <Naruni> acosonic: type date
[11:16] <eviladmin> timedatectl
[11:16] <macopython> @eviladmin: its not issue with app. Its issue with VM
[11:17] <acosonic> and what does time do?
[11:17] <acosonic> what do thoze zeroes represent?
[11:17] <eviladmin> acosonic: depends on your shell
[11:17] <SEGELBERT> man time
[11:17] <acosonic> bash
[11:18] <eviladmin> time is often a builtin
[11:18] <OerHeks>  time run the program COMMAND with any given arguments ARG....  When COMMAND finishes, time displays information about resources used by COMMAND
[11:18] <acosonic> OerHeks: oh I see
[11:18] <MaxFrames> Amoz: I _think_ I have it figured out and if I'm correct, it's not an ubuntu issue
[11:19] <MaxFrames> I had set up a restrictive rule on the allow rdp firewall rule, to accept connections only from trusted mac addresses; it appears that when I connect via vpn from a remote site the mac address that the server sees is the mac address of the remote gateway, which has changed recently
[11:19] <eviladmin> SEGELBERT: help time
[11:20] <eviladmin> er.. acosonic ^
[11:21] <Amoz> MaxFrames, that makes sense. That's why you can ping and ssh to it, but not get any "reasonable feedback" when trying to connect via RDP
[11:21] <SEGELBERT> eviladmin: :P
[11:21] <MaxFrames> yes, the "anal retentive" rule was just for rdp
[11:22] <MaxFrames> is it expected that using openvpn in tun mode, the incoming mac address the server sees is not the one of the openvpn server (which is in the same lan as the target server) but the one of the gateway?
[11:23] <MaxFrames> the connection is nat routed by the openvpn server, so I thought the mac address was the one of the lan port of the vpn server
[11:24] <Seveas> MaxFrames: you seem to fundamentally misunderstand what mac addresses are for and how the tcp/ip protocols are layered. mac addresses are only visible in the same broadcast domain. As soon as a packet is routed instead of switched, you can't see the mac address....
[11:25] <MaxFrames> I can't see the mac address of the originating station, you mean
[11:25] <Re-FleX> (Y)
[11:26] <Re-FleX> its the mac from you systems gateway
[11:26] <Re-FleX> your*
[11:26] <MaxFrames> if the packet is routed, it will have the router's mac address now, will it not?
[11:26] <Re-FleX> (Y)
[11:27] <Seveas> MaxFrames: indeed
[11:29] <MaxFrames> Seveas: then why do you say I misunderstand anything? that is what I was saying.
[11:29] <MaxFrames> I was just expecting the packet to have the mac address of the last router in its way (the openvpn server)
[11:29] <MaxFrames> but if I am right, it has the mac address of the before last router (the remote gateway)
[11:30] <Seveas> MaxFrames: then I misunderstood what you were saying :)
[11:30] <MaxFrames> ;)
[11:31] <MaxFrames> maybe the openvpn server in tun mode "recycles" the mac address of the last hop
[11:31] <MaxFrames> which would explain all of this weirdness.
[11:31] <Re-FleX> Maybe OpenVPN uses a virtual NIC ;)
[11:32] <Seveas> MaxFrames: I missed the start of the question. What's the weirdness you see?
[11:33] <MaxFrames> not being able to rdp into a windows server from an ubuntu client over vpn, using remmina (all ok over a lan link)
[11:34] <MaxFrames> tracked down the issue to a particularly restrictive firewall rule on the server, with a whitelist of allowed mac addresses
[11:34] <Seveas> where's the firewall? between the openvpn server and the rdp server?
[11:34] <MaxFrames> on the rdp server itself
[11:34] <MaxFrames> (software firewall)
[11:34] <orangejuice> hi, how can i install adobe flash player for chromium on lubuntu 14?
[11:34] <Re-FleX> Is the firewall on the windows?
[11:35] <Re-FleX> machine?
[11:35] <MaxFrames> the issue is marked "tentatively solved" ;)
[11:35] <Seveas> MaxFrames: how do packets go from the openvpn server to the rdp server? layer 2 (switching) or layer 3 (routing)?
[11:35] <MaxFrames> to make sure, I will have to go back on the wan site
[11:35] <Seveas> if the former, the rdp server should see the max address of the vpn server, otherwise the mac address of its upstream gateway
[11:35] <MaxFrames> Seveas: openvpn server in tun mode = it acts as nat router
[11:36] <Seveas> MaxFrames: that doesn't matter now.
[11:36] <Re-FleX> @maxframes when you turn the firewall of on the windows machine does the RDP connection work?
[11:36] <Seveas> the mac address of the rdp client is definitely not visible to the rdp server
[11:36] <Re-FleX> off*
[11:36] <MaxFrames> Seveas: that is not what I am saying
[11:36] <CIclops> Hi again, software center says "Package dependencies cannot be resolved" and gives a long list  of packages with unmet dependencies ...how do I fix this?
[11:37] <MaxFrames> I am saying that the openvpn server acts on l3 so you are right and I am right, and the mac address is the gateway's
[11:37] <Bobby_ct>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Bobby_ct wruakaqmpshk
[11:37] <Seveas> MaxFrames: ok
[11:37] <Seveas> Bobby_ct: failwhale :)
[11:37] <Re-FleX> Orange you cant install adobe flash but you can use a alternative just use google ;)
[11:37] <k1l> CIclops: can you list the exact ubuntu version and the package name and the list? in a pastebin ?
[11:38] <orangejuice> re-flex?
[11:38] <Re-FleX> ?
[11:38] <Re-FleX> yes?
[11:39] <OerHeks> !info flashplugin-installer
[11:39] <OerHeks> Re-FleX, wrong advise ..
[11:39] <Re-FleX> Why wrong advise...
[11:39] <OerHeks> orangejuice, just install restricted extras, for codex, flash, java, fonts and such
[11:39] <orangejuice> whats the command to install the package?
[11:41] <Re-FleX> Flash is not longer supported on linux you can use  plugins to make it work eyes
[11:42] <OerHeks> please stop giving wrong advise, Re-FleX, flashplugin is available in softwarecenter
[11:42] <Re-FleX> :|
[11:42] <Re-FleX> SUPPORTED IAM SAYING
[11:42] <Re-FleX> what does this have to do with software center
[11:44] <k1l> Re-FleX: adobe cut off support. but google took over with support with their own module.
[11:45] <vilitaltti> Re-Flex is little bit right. There is a old version of flashplayer (11) but it gets security patches
[11:47] <CIclops> k1l,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597103/
[11:49] <k1l> CIclops: where did you get that skype package from?
[11:49] <CIclops> k1l, the software centre
[11:50] <zzarr> hello!
[11:50] <k1l> CIclops: please do a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal. then do a "sudo apt install skype". please put all the output into a pastebin again
[11:50] <CIclops> k1l, k :)
[11:50] <zzarr> can I change the default session from command line?
[11:53] <Re-FleX> vilitaltti thats exactly what iam saying
[11:53] <Re-FleX> but hey iam giving wrong advise here
[11:53] <Re-FleX> pfffff
[11:53] <Re-FleX> just try and make flash work with firefox! GL!
[11:54] <OerHeks> Re-FleX "you cant install adobe flash" or "supported" is not true... but if this is a i-want-to-win, i leave you to it.
[11:54] <Re-FleX> omg
[11:55] <Ray-01> hello, I have Windows 7 laptop and I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04, so I can dual bool it. I partition the disk for ubuntu. when I try to install ubuntu from the DVD, it doesnt detect any partition. it doesnt even detect the current Windows 7 OS
[11:56] <vilitaltti> Re-flex, flash is working fine with me? :o I dont use it as default and I put it on when I need it. For security reasons
[11:56] <Re-FleX> please were can i get the package from adobe and install Adobe flash on ubuntu? please tell me and prove me wrong
[11:57] <CIclops> k1l,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597140/
[11:57] <ikonia> !flash | Re-FleX
[11:58] <k1l> CIclops: please show a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" in a pastebin
[12:00] <CIclops> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597157/
[12:01] <k1l> CIclops: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[12:02] <CIclops> k1l, 14.04.03
[12:03] <k1l> which desktop?
[12:03] <CIclops> default
[12:03] <orangejuice> ok so now that ive got adobe flash how do i make it work ?
[12:03] <k1l> CIclops: then there is something heavily wrong there.
[12:04] <OerHeks> orangejuice, restart your browser and go youtube
[12:04] <k1l> CIclops: it even says lightdm is not installed. i really wonder why.
[12:04] <k1l> CIclops: try to run a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[12:04] <CIclops> k1l, everything was fine until I upgraded today .. it said partial upgrade, then removed a lot of packages
[12:04] <Flannel> CIclops: please pastebin `apt-cache policy libgcc1 gcc-4.9-base libc6`
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:05] <k1l> CIclops: well, that is a information that is very important
[12:05] <CIclops> k1l, Flannel .. i do both?
[12:05] <k1l> CIclops: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop lightdm
[12:06] <Flannel> CIclops: The apt-cache policy first.  It's not making changes, just looking.
[12:06] <CIclops> k
[12:07] <CIclops> Flannel, k1l  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597186/
[12:09] <Flannel> CIclops: Do you have any idea where you got your libgcc1? (1:5.1~rc1-0ubuntu1)
[12:10] <CIclops> Flannel, since i started 14.04 i've tried to keep the system standard, except for a few extra packages
[12:10] <Flannel> Oh, vivid.
[12:11] <Flannel> CIclops: Did you try to go to 15.04 at all?
[12:11] <CIclops> Flannel, always taken all updates
[12:11] <CIclops> Flannel, no
[12:11] <k1l> CIclops: did you change the sources.list file manually?
[12:11] <CIclops> k1l, yes
[12:12] <Flannel> CIclops: Well, one of your PPAs or something seems to have taking your libgcc1 there, anyway.
[12:12] <CIclops> Flannel i may have done some and forgotton lol
[12:12] <Flannel> CIclops: What you're going to have to do is force that package back to the version in the repos, it'll require you to update gcc-4.9-base at the same time (to the one in the repos).  I unfortunately don't have time to walk you though it.
[12:13] <k1l> CIclops: did you try to upgrade that way? on ubuntu we dont change the sources.list maunally. we use the updater to do that
[12:13] <CIclops> k1l, maybe ...
[12:13] <mrkie> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing  '/sbin/rcvboxdrv setup'  as root. what do i need to do? sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv setup ? or first sudo -i to become root? because mark is the default ubuntu superuser i install everything with mark, i installed virtualbox with the ubuntu software center
[12:14] <CIclops> i had a package that needed compiling and a special lib
[12:15] <CIclops> Flannel, okay thanks for the help, what should i ask for here  later?
[12:15] <Flannel> CIclops: I'm sure someone can help you configure your apt preferences to make this happen.  But from that apt-cache policy paste, you're going to need to move back to the trusty-updates version of those two packages (or roll forward, in the case of gcc-4.9-base).  So 1:4.9.3-ubuntu4 and 4.9.3-0ubuntu4, for libgcc1 and gcc-4.9-base respectively.  There may be other packages you'll have to 'massage' into place as well.  You'll find them as they yell a
[12:16] <CIclops> Flannel, so i ask for help configuring my apt prefs?
[12:17] <Flannel> CIclops: probably easier/more general to ask for help rolling back a package version.
[12:17] <ikonia> CIclops: I'd roll back all those PPA changes
[12:17] <ikonia> then move forward in a more controlled way
[12:18] <CIclops> ikonia, can you help with that?
[12:19] <mrkie> ikonia: what would you suggest me to choose to do? just sudo /sbin/rcvboxdrv setup or first sudo -i?
[12:19] <mrkie> i get this message he VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing  '/sbin/rcvboxdrv setup'  as root.
[12:20] <ksbalaji> Is there Ubuntu for i5, 64bit acer laptop?  It's not amd  machine.
[12:20] <ikonia> mrkie: I've not any thing from you so have no context for what you'r doing/trying to do / problem
[12:20] <ikonia> ksbalaji: the amd64 version is generic 64bit version
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> ksbalaji: ubuntu is for everyone :p
[12:20] <ikonia> CIclops: look up ppa_purge
[12:20] <Flannel> CIclops: There's about a half dozen ways to go about doing it, otherwise I'd tell you what to look for.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto discusses one way (or maybe two, now that I glance at it).  You just need to set a priority of over 1000 to go "backwards" in versions, remember that.  (This is mentioned/described in man apt_preferences too, if you want to wade through that)
[12:21] <ksbalaji> Thanks. I was just thinking amd64 won't work for i5.
[12:21] <gj|work> ksbalaji: The 64bit Intel architecture is calles AMD64 - perpexing
[12:21] <Seveas> lotuspsychje: except for you. It doesn't like you ;)
[12:21] <vilitaltti> mrkie: I had same problem when I installed from softwarecenter. Try reinstall virtual box from commandline and update after installation. it helped me :)
[12:22] <gj|work> ksbalaji: referr to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: too late, it already bite me :p
[12:23] <ksbalaji> Now, my acer with Ubuntu loaded, won't run WiFi. Can anything be done please?
[12:23] <ikonia> depends on why
[12:23] <ikonia> I'd suggest doing your correct install first
[12:23] <ikonia> then coming back with the problem
[12:23] <wenze1367> so go to google can get it ,
[12:23] <ikonia> ?
[12:24] <CIclops> ikonia,  why does it refer to amd64 when i have i386?
[12:24] <ikonia> it doesn't
[12:25] <ikonia> i386 = 32bit, amd64 = generic 64bit
[12:25] <ikonia> or x86_64
[12:25] <wenze1367> hardware is different
[12:25] <CIclops> ikonia, ok, yes i have x86_64
[12:25] <ikonia> ok so what's the question ?
[12:26] <gj|work> ksbalaji: You may easy google some thing like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer
[12:26] <CIclops> amd64 packages are ok with a 64 bit  intel cpu?
[12:26] <ikonia> yes
[12:27] <vilitaltti> yes
[12:27] <ksbalaji> My install installation went on smooth, but WiFi wouldn't work. I checked with Acer comments. Some others also had same problem. They gave up Ubuntu or acer. I would like to repair.
[12:27] <ikonia> ksbalaji: how can your install be done, you've only just found out that the amd64 version will support your machine
[12:27] <ikonia> you can't have downloaded burnt and installed in that time
[12:28] <wenze1367> i want to learn some thing about snort software,are there someone give me some suggest?
[12:28] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (btw,  chmod 775  plus  chown root:user  does the trick, but some gurus said it was bad practice although they didn't explain why, as they were too busy laughing at the newbie)
[12:28] <ikonia> wenze1367: what's not clear /
[12:28] <cfhowlett> wenze1367, go to the snort site and read the documentation
[12:28] <ph88> i would like to run Ubuntu Server 15.10 on my raspberry pi 2 model B but i can not find an image for it .. can someone help ?
[12:29] <ksbalaji> I seek your help to run WiFi in acer, with Ubuntu.
[12:29] <hateball> !raspberry
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !details | ksbalaji,
[12:29] <hateball> hmmm, could swear there was one
[12:30] <ikonia> ksbalaji: ok - what have you installed on your machine ?
[12:30] <vilitaltti> ksblaji, have you figure out what wifi card you have?
[12:31] <ksbalaji> Ikonia, I have already installed Ubuntu. Only when I found this WiFi problem, I thought amd64 won't work properly.
[12:31] <k1l> ph88: either there is the ubuntu mate iso or the snappy core iso, iirc
[12:31] <wenze1367> in the day i had lern some based knowledge about snort software,but i want to learn more about source code,there are too simple about it,so i come to here,can you help me?
[12:31] <ph88> k1l, yes i know, but i want ubuntu server
[12:32] <ikonia> wenze1367: what's too simple
[12:32] <ksbalaji> vilitaltti,  it is written 801.11
[12:32] <ikonia> wenze1367: what exactly do you want ?
[12:32] <k1l> ph88: i dont think there is an official server image. maybe you use one of the ubuntu desktop images and install the server packages?
[12:33] <vilitaltti> ksbalaji, your acer model and type in terminal "uname -r"
[12:33] <wenze1367> about tcp/ip protocol,not only use it
[12:33] <ikonia> wenze1367: ok so thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:34] <ksbalaji> Ok. I shall open Ubuntu in my new laptop and come back to you again. Thanks all
[12:34] <k1l> ph88: there might be server images available, but not from ubuntu, afaik. see http://blog.bobbyallen.me/2015/05/17/setting-up-and-running-a-server-with-ubuntu-server-14-04-on-raspberry-pi-2/
[12:34] <ph88> can i compile it myself ?
[12:34] <ikonia> wenze1367: you want to read the snort documentation and engage with the snort guys
[12:39] <jota> hola
[12:39] <wenze1367> it is too much that open source about snort software,so i want to get some help or suggestes about it ?or about how to read open source?
[12:39] <jota> alguien que pueda ayudarme a configurar ubuntu?ç
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !es | jota
[12:40] <vilitaltti> wenze1367, if you want learn about snot learn first internet/networking. I recommend book "Computer networking A top-down approach" it is like "ensyclopedia" about internet
[12:41] <wenze1367> have the Chinese version the book ?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> wenze1367, https://www.snort.org/#documents
[12:42] <ph88> k1l, i have that version currently installed ^^
[12:42] <jota> gracias cfhowlett
[12:42] <cfhowlett> jota, happy2help!
[12:43] <vilitaltti> wenze1367, I dont know maeby :/ try google it might be more helpful
[12:43] <vilitaltti> *maybe
[12:44] <wenze1367> the net is too slow ,especiall go to the web aboard
[12:45] <cfhowlett> wenze1367, you're in china.  baidu/taobao the chinese translation. pretty sure someone will have it.  or see the #ubuntukylin team
[12:46] <wenze1367> thank you ,everyone ,i am reading the manual about snort,
[12:47] <angsuman> Ex-chat
[12:49] <wenze1367> quit
[12:54] <anabain> TJ-, I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (btw,  chmod 775  plus  chown root:user  does the trick, but some gurus said it was bad practice although they didn't explain why, as they were too busy laughing at the newbie)
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> anabain: i think TJ- went for a nap, try again later
[12:55] <anabain> ok, thanks
[12:55] <wenze1367> someone give me the web about ubuntukylin team,i have go to it,so what is it about?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> !kylin | wenze1367
[12:56] <wenze1367> are there some channels about tcp/ip procotol?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> wenze1367: ##networking
[12:56] <boxmein> hey how do I make the unity panel calendar thing start on a monday
[12:56] <wenze1367> thank you
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> boxmein: start on monday? it will show the current day?
[13:04] <net2014> hello
[13:04] <net2014> my ubuntu pc doesn't respond
[13:04] <net2014> can I kill the application that apparently did that?
[13:04] <wenze1367> sorry,networking can not connect,
[13:04] <Na3iL> more details net2014
[13:05] <wenze1367> i can not connect with networking
[13:05] <net2014> well, ubuntu started behaving weirdly, the mouse wouldn't interact normally
[13:05] <Na3iL> What did you do before the system goes like that?
[13:05] <Na3iL> compiz effects?
[13:05] <net2014> with apps. then that went away, then I started an app, it worked well, but now ubuntu is unresponsive
[13:06] <net2014> Na3il I was running steam, then the weird things started happening
[13:06] <Na3iL> net2014, did you tried to reboot the pc?
[13:06] <orf_> hey there! I've got a really strange problem with fonts in my Ubuntu install
[13:07] <net2014> Na3iL, well, I tried control alt delete, but didn't work
[13:07] <orf_> Anything italic doesn't show up in Firefox or Chrome. Is there a way to just reset the fonts?
[13:07] <net2014> any other ways I can do a soft reboot?
[13:08] <Na3iL> net2014, ctrl alt f1, You will see the cli mode, type sudo shutdown -r
[13:10] <Na3iL> orf_, that question is much better posted in #firefox
[13:11] <OerHeks> orf_, to get italic and such, see the webcontent > advanced settings, and get the app
[13:11] <OerHeks> For Chrome, that is
[13:11] <orf_> sure, but its a problem with the underlying fonts I believe
[13:12] <net2014> Na3iL, control alt f1 doesn't work
[13:12] <orf_> as a lot of characters in chrome appear as boxes as well.
[13:12] <orf_> both are default fresh installs
[13:12] <OerHeks> orf_, it might need logout/login to take effect
[13:13] <Na3iL> net2014, try ctrl alt  and any Fx key
[13:13] <orf_> ok, but is there a way to uninstall and re-install the ubuntu fonts package?
[13:13] <orf_> for the actual system?
[13:13] <orf_> or verify that they are installed correctly?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> orf_, sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[13:14] <orf_> I know how to use apt, but I have no idea what the standard fonts package in Ubuntu is called
[13:15] <OerHeks> orf_, why? with the extention italic is available, did you try ?
[13:15] <orf_> It's always available in Chrome, it's not available in FireFox
[13:15] <orf_> I can switch the FireFox font to be the same as Chromes, but it looks very strange and I would rather just fix the underlying problem
[13:15] <narcos> Hi all. Is there an Ubuntu desktop installer without GUI? Or would I just go for the server addition?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> fonts-ubuntu-title orf_
[13:16] <orf_> Chrome displays some content as missing glyphs as well, so it seems to be an actual font issue
[13:16] <orf_> thanks cfhowlett
[13:16] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[13:16] <jbwiv_> anyone know of a decent web-based alternative to virt-manager for managing KVM virtual machines?
[13:16] <Na3iL> narcos, There's arch without an installer gui
[13:16] <orf_> "font used to create the Ubuntu logo (2004‒2010)" - that doesn't seem to be it cfhowlett
[13:16] <RansomTime> Hi, I'm trying to mount my SD card, but I get "unknown filesystem exfat" - how would I go about installing drivers?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> orf_, eh wait 1
[13:17] <hateball> narcos: you can use the minimal iso and then add what you like
[13:17] <narcos> Na3iL, Got a link?
[13:17] <orf_> is there not a meta package with the standard Ubuntu fonts in it?
[13:17] <hateball> !minimal | narcos
[13:17] <narcos> Ah!
[13:17] <narcos> Thanks hateball :)
[13:17] <hateball> narcos: You're welcome :)
[13:18] <Na3iL> narcos, it is another distribution, not like Ubuntu - Its philosophy DIY : Do It Yourself http://archlinux.org/
[13:18] <hateball> And it's also not related to Ubuntu support
[13:18] <OerHeks> RansomTime, install sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils > http://askubuntu.com/questions/451364/how-to-enable-exfat-in-ubuntu-14-04
[13:18] <RansomTime> ah, thanks
[13:18] <RansomTime> I was trying exfat
[13:18] <cfhowlett> orf_, https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597501/
[13:18] <narcos> Cool thanks for the tip Na3iL
[13:18] <RansomTime> yeah that's installing now OerHeks
[13:19] <orf_> thank you cfhowlett!
[13:23] <net2014> I did a cold boot
[13:23] <net2014> nothing major running
[13:23] <net2014> can it damage hardware or the os?
[13:25] <mitchelldm> Anyone know why upgrading from 14.04 to 15.10 would cause a black screen after Grub?
[13:25] <OerHeks> net2014, maybe open files on your filesystem, but that can be fixed, and would be noticed.
[13:27] <net2014> OerHeks, how would I notice? when I open these files in question?
[13:28] <OerHeks> net2014, when you boot, and the filesystem is not clean, it would halt to ask to perform a fsck
[13:28] <OerHeks> filecheck*
[13:28] <net2014> I see.
[13:28] <OerHeks> and hardware, no, nowadays pulling power should do no harm.
[13:29] <net2014> what about server that run, like samba, could it get corrupted?
[13:30] <OerHeks> good question, maybe samba service could be damaged, if it was doing transactions.
[13:30] <OerHeks> did it, for you?
[13:30] <net2014> it wasn't doing any transcations
[13:30] <OerHeks> oke, i think you are fine then.
[13:31] <orf__> hey guys, my fonts in Ubuntu are really messed up and I can't work out why. Lots of fonts, including system ones like DejaVU-* appear as squares. My co-worker runs the same install, with the same font settings and has no issues with these fonts.
[13:31] <orf__> Reinstalling them does not fix the issue.
[13:32] <net2014> how to do I open a port in the firewall, so, apache web server can serve pages over the network?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> orf__, switch to a different user account and check
[13:33] <orf__> cfhowlett: same thing with a fresh new user account
[13:34] <cfhowlett> desktop or laptop?
[13:34] <orf__> laptop
[13:34] <orf__> when adding a user account some of the help text had squares as well
[13:34] <rory> What's a lightweight notepad app that can do rtf? like Windows Wordpad
[13:34] <cfhowlett> reboot to an earlier kernel orf__
[13:35] <orf__> cfhowlett: this has been going on for at least 3 weeks
[13:35] <BiilD73> quick question, I had working nfs shares from /media/bill/<4 of them> then after reboot, clients cannot see tree below share, idea where to check first?
[13:35] <orf__> and I've done numerous kernel upgrades
[13:35] <OerHeks> orf reinstall fonts: apt-get install --reinstall ttf-ubuntu-font-family # and rebuild fonts config with: fc-cache -f -v
[13:35] <senpai> why when i upload a file via ftp it's chmod itself to rw------- (0600) ? anyway to prevent that?
[13:35] <orf__> http://imgur.com/mOOwtFJ
[13:35] <BiilD73> after reboot, if I term in and do showmount -e they are listed
[13:35] <OerHeks> logout/login might be required to take effect
[13:36] <orf__> ahh. perhaps it is the proprietary AMD driver?
[13:36] <BiilD73> clients are linux based OSMC RPis
[13:37] <cfhowlett> orf__, could be .  switch drivers to test
[13:38] <BiilD73> maybe my usb hdds that the shares are on are not getting mounted at boot properly?
[13:40] <yeahokay> Hi all. I'm trying to install deluged on a microserver, as a headless/thin-client set up. I've followed multiple guides. Uninstalled everything several times, and I'm now running into more and more errors. Would someone please have a look at this error and give me some advice as to what I should do? Cheers. https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597575/
[13:41] <senpai> hi, why when i upload a file via ftp it's chmod itself to rw------- (0600) ? anyway to prevent that? using (vsftpd)
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> !find deluged
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> !info deluged
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> yeahokay  i guess you can install deluge (without d) and then use the webclient
[13:44] <yeahokay> MonkeyDust - that is an option, but I'd prefer the additional functionality of a deluge application on my windows desktop
[13:45] <OerHeks> senpai, set local_umask=0002 >> http://serverfault.com/questions/201305/default-owner-permissions-of-created-files-via-vsftpd
[13:47] <senpai> ty OerHeks
[13:49] <Afdla> how to start xfce4-notifyd?
[13:50] <senpai> OerHeks, any idea what mail system i could install that will allow me to manage email addresses easily?
[13:52] <SEGELBERT> Mail-in-a-Box
[13:52] <ph88> i'm running ubuntu server 14.04 on my raspberry pi ... and a few ssl certificates are outdated (such as github) how can i update my certs ?
[13:54] <OerHeks> senpai, with multiple mailadresses, i have no clue, standaard thunderbird works fine for me with 1 email adress.
[13:55] <anabain> I've just plugged two hdds on my box to be mounted at /media dir; /etc/fstab for them is  ext4  defaults   0 2 . The /media subdirs for the hdds show 755 permissions. The problem: I cannot write to them as user. What's going on? (btw,  chmod 775  plus  chown root:user  does the trick, but some gurus said it was bad practice although they didn't explain why, as they were too busy laughing at the newbie)
[13:56] <ph88> can i just copy /etc/ssl/certs/  from one system to another ?
[14:01] <net2014> I can connect with telnet on ubuntu pc, locally
[14:01] <senpai> cool
[14:01] <net2014> but it doesn't work from windows pc, to connect to ubuntu pc
[14:01] <net2014> any ideas?
[14:01] <BiilD73> ok found a work around, i had to type sudo exportfs -a from term then of course supply root pass, how do I make that permanent for my shares
[14:03] <UbbyStuff12> Hello, i installed on an old pc ubuntu 14.04 LTS, i found enabled the backports repository by default. I'm not interested into the backports, my goal is 100% stability so i disabled it. There's a way to tell apt to revert all the software to the stable version? Because i have installed the backports version of lot of the software now.
[14:03] <UbbyStuff12> Something like apt-get autoremove ? idk
[14:04] <Afdla> how to check which notification thingy I'm running? I don't know what is causing top right messages to appear
[14:05] <BluesKaj> !backports
[14:05] <BluesKaj> UbbyStuff12,^
[14:05] <Dro> i can't install apache2...  apache2 : Depends: apache2-bin (= 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.8) but it is not going to be installed
[14:06] <Dro> any ideas?
[14:06] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: Yeah, i would like to have the 14.04 LTS plain without backports, but i have already lot of installed software from the backports repository because the cd install selected the repository automatically for me.
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> Dro  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:06] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: how can i revert this installation to the 14.04 without backports ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Dro, update and upgrade and try installing again
[14:07] <Dro> BluesKaj, I already updated, upgraded and dist-upgraded
[14:07] <Dro> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> Dro  sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ... then try again
[14:08] <CIclops> ikonia, we chatted about PPA changes and ppa_purge ... the issue i have began when the software updater removed about 200 packages, i have the list is it possible to reinstall them?
[14:08] <Dro> MonkeyDust, already done, but always the same problem
[14:08] <BluesKaj> UbbyStuff12, think you need to understand that the backports are for your benefit and the packages there are stable , just new and fulkly supported on 14.04 since it is a LTs afterall
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Dro  the try dist-upgrade, instead of upgrade
[14:09] <Dro> MonkeyDust, i used them both but still can't install apache2
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Dro  ok, then idk
[14:10] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: ok let's accept that, but for the sake of learning, is possible make apt-get update all software based on what he have as sources? i mean let's say i have the kernel 3.19 in backports and the 3.13 in stable and i want it to fall back to all the stable packages... is this possible with a command ?
[14:10] <Dro> MonkeyDust, thanks anyway
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> Dro  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597742/
[14:12] <Dro> MonkeyDust, PS: I'm in a fresh install.. should i do it?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> Dro  won't hurt
[14:13] <Dro> MonkeyDust, ok
[14:14] <BluesKaj> UbbyStuff12, sorry I don't understand your definition of stable packages ....dunno how more stable 14.04 can be than it is now
[14:15] <yeahokay> Sorry to continue to pester everyone, but can someone please take a look at this error I'm getting when attempting to open deluge daemon (deluged). I've looked all over the internet for the past few hours and I'm not getting anywhere... https://paste.ubuntu.com/14597756/
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> yeahokay  try and ask in a python channel
[14:16] <yeahokay> Will do MonkeyDust
[14:16] <yeahokay> cheers
[14:17] <CIclops> mind overflow!
[14:18] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: Package linux-headers-generic, ubuntu 14.04 LTS trusty (14.04LTS) 3.13.0.76.82, ubuntu backports: 3.19.0.47.46
[14:18] <UbbyStuff12> BluesKaj: let's say i want to rollback an installation to how it was without backports i should have the kernel 3.13.0.76.82
[14:19] <UbbyStuff12> so my question was how i can tell to apt-get to remove all the things he updated from backports repository?
[14:21] <CIclops> can I reinstall packages removed by the software updater?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  start from the beginning, what happened
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[14:24] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, that could be hard, maybe this page is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/59443/how-can-i-revert-back-from-an-upgrade-to-the-proposed-repository
[14:25] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, thx ... software updater worked okay and also removed a lot of packages, now an application has gone and wont reinstall
[14:25] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: thanks
[14:25] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, 14.04.3
[14:27] <orf_> mother of god. I uninstalled the ATI drivers, which borked my whole system (due to something I overlooked). I'm finally back running the stock Ubuntu driver, and the fonts are *still* messed up
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  how did you try to reinstall? purge and then reinstal, or with --reinstall ?
[14:28] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, using the software center, this is the log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597103/
[14:28] <OerHeks> orf reinstall fonts: apt-get install --reinstall ttf-ubuntu-font-family # and rebuild fonts config with: fc-cache -f -v
[14:29] <OerHeks> logout/login might be required to take effect
[14:29] <OerHeks> so it was not the ATI driver
[14:30] <orf_> whey
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  you too ... I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597742/
[14:30] <orf_> fc-cache -f -v fixed it.
[14:30] <OerHeks> :-)
[14:30] <orf_> <3
[14:30] <OerHeks> now re-install that ATI thingy and have fun, orf_
[14:31] <CIclops> MonkeyDust, OMG that looks scary ...
[14:31] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: seems not to work
[14:32] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: i have to assume that the default ubuntu 14.04.03 kernel is now 3.19 ?
[14:32] <Lupercal> wassaa
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  not at all, i use it as a routine
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  14.04.3 here
[14:33] <Guest64044> hello
[14:33] <net2014> hello
[14:33] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:33] <net2014> I added password to root, but when I am a user and do sudo su, the user password is requested, but not the root password too
[14:33] <net2014> why is that?
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> !root | net2014 here's why
[14:34] <OerHeks> !info linux-generic trusty
[14:34] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:35] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, i know it can be hard, removing proposed .. got no clue else than that page :-(
[14:35] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: no, i want to remove backports
[14:35] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: and stay only on stable + security channel
[14:35] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:35] <OerHeks> proposed/backports, same issue
[14:35] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: heh :\ i know
[14:36] <OerHeks> backports are automatic enabled on my 15.10
[14:37] <Guest64044> i have just installed netbeans 8.0.2 it stops at starting maduls
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> Guest64044  repeat your question every 15 minutes or so, not every 2 minutes
[14:38] <OerHeks> Guest64044, installed java 8 ?> http://askubuntu.com/questions/689291/netbeans-8-0-2-freezing-at-startup-on-ubuntu-15-10-64bit
[14:38] <OerHeks> !java
[14:39] <net2014> MonkeyDust, thanks, but why then the ubuntu allowed me to changed the password of root?
[14:40] <OerHeks> net2014, what you did is not the ubuntu way, how did you set rootpass??
[14:40] <net2014> OerHeks, sudo su, logged in as root, then typed passwd
[14:41] <OerHeks> delete it, and logout/login > sudo passwd -dl root # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[14:41] <Guest64044> Error: missing `jamvm' JVM at `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/jamvm/libjvm.so'.
[14:41] <Guest64044> Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components.
[14:42] <net2014> OerHeks, why should I delete it?
[14:43] <OerHeks> net2014, then don't, and learn how to use it, i am not going to find out how.
[14:44] <net2014> OerHeks, maybe the password I set for root, doesn't even exist?
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> net2014  to us, setting a root password comes down to ruining your system ... you won't find much support for that, in this channel
[14:45] <linuxlove> hello
[14:45] <linuxlove> please help
[14:45] <linuxlove> Error: missing `jamvm' JVM at `/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/lib/amd64/jamvm/libjvm.so'.
[14:45] <linuxlove> Please install or use the JRE or JDK that contains these missing components.
[14:45] <SEGELBERT> hi Guest64044
[14:46] <net2014> I don't get it. if root has no password, why ubuntu allowed me to add one to it?
[14:47] <circ-user-3mrWe> sudo is not root
[14:47] <OerHeks> net2014, did you logout/login after that?
[14:47] <circ-user-3mrWe> it is admin
[14:47] <net2014> OerHeks, no
[14:47] <OerHeks> might help..
[14:47] <boxmein> MonkeyDust: what's the rationale for not having a root password?
[14:47] <concon> HI! Are the UbuCon presentations going to go onl;ine????
[14:48] <OerHeks> boxmein, it is described here fully > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[14:48] <wadadli> linuxlove: seems very straight forward
[14:48] <net2014> ok, so, now that I set a password for root, what do I do? I simply remove the password?
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> boxmein  you better ask the ubuntu devs
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> boxmein  or start in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:49] <concon> HI! Are the UbuCon presentations going to go onl;ine????
[14:49] <concon> oops sry didn't mean to repaste
[14:50] <net2014> if I log as root, type passwd and enter twice, without giving an actual password, won't that remove the password from root?
[14:50] <OerHeks> concon, i hope so http://ubucon.org/en/
[14:50] <net2014> by logging, I mean in a terminal I open, not actually log in into the system
[14:51] <wadadli> linuxlove: please do not prvate msg me
[14:51] <linuxlove> wadadli, what should i do now?
[14:51] <concon> OerHeks: couldn't see any links to vids on that site though. The dev summits usually go online immediately
[14:52] <linuxlove> wadadli, what should i do now?
[14:53] <net2014> actually, I never created a root account, it seemed to exist when I bought my pc
[14:53] <net2014> I think it exists, otherwise, I wouldn't be able to login as root from terminal, right?
[14:54] <OerHeks> concon, all i find > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ubucon+SCaLE+14x
[14:54] <wadadli> linuxlove: I would just get rid of openJDK to begin with
[14:54] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: as alternative, is possible during the cd installation tell the installer to remove the backports ?
[14:54] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: because i wonder maybe is possible :O
[14:55] <OerHeks> hmm not sure you can.
[14:55] <net2014> some help please, I'd like to fix this issue
[14:55] <concon> OerHeks: cheers mate
[14:55] <boxmein> OerHeks: oh I see
[14:55] <Pici> net2014: if you want to lock the root password so it goes back to what it was when Ubuntu was installed: sudo passwd -l
[14:55] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: if i deselect the checkbox download packages while installing i should be able to use the only one from cd right ?
[14:55] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: in that case i have to check the cd ones i guess :D
[14:55] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, yes.
[14:56] <net2014> in users gui, there is no root user, but I can log in as root from terminal. do I have a root user? am i supposed not to have one?
[14:56] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: maybe my 10.04.03 has already the backports kernel mounted into it
[14:56] <OerHeks> UbbyStuff12, not sure what your reason is to avoid backports.
[14:56] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: i want just the super stable channel
[14:56] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: backports are not checked totally
[14:57] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: and i have to give my parents a machine auto updated but also working without mess
[14:57] <net2014> Pici, thanks for the information, I need some more information though first. please see my previous question
[14:57] <UbbyStuff12> OerHeks: still is something for learn ^^
[14:58] <Pici> net2014: People say that there is no root user, but thats not really true.  The fact of the matter is that the root password is locked by default and that sudo should be used instead.
[14:59] <ludo__>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[15:00] <net2014> Pici, what happens if I lock the password of root? and what happens if I don't and just let it have the password I gave it previously?
[15:00] <net2014> Pici, and what locking the root password means?
[15:01] <UbbyStuff12> sudo -s is more useful
[15:01] <Pici> net2014: Things *may* be fine, but the fact of the matter is that Ubuntu was developed with the idea that you should be using sudo, so there may be cases where things don't work the way that they're supposed to.  Locking the password means the hash that the password checks against is replaced with something that can't actually occur in the hash, so no password will ever match it.
[15:02] <net2014> Pici, so, with locking, nobody will be able to log in as root then?
[15:03] <Pici> net2014: no one will be able to login to root directly.  You can still use sudo -s/-i to masquerade as root.
[15:04] <net2014> Pici, I see. so, basically, I was never supposed to be able to log in as root directly? or changing its password? And locking basically will fix these problems?
[15:04] <OerHeks> net2014, easy to undo
[15:05] <OerHeks> sudo passwd -dl root # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_account
[15:05] <net2014> OerHeks, ok, but what about the password that I set to root?
[15:05] <k1l> net2014: "just give root a password and be like a real linux user" is a bad advice a lot of non-ubuntu guys will tell while they not know what ubuntu and sudo is about
[15:06] <OerHeks> that comand deltes it, and reverses to the original system, 1st user created has sudo priv
[15:07] <k1l> net2014: see the website link and command from OerHeks. you can undo that root password and things will be fine again
[15:07] <OerHeks> if you want more users to use sudo, add them to sudoers, also described there
[15:07] <k1l> if you want other users to use sudo add them to the sudo group
[15:08] <net2014> OerHeks, but I bought this computer, I don't know who the first user with sudo privileges was
[15:08] <net2014> what if the 1st user is not my user?
[15:08] <k1l> net2014: log in as your user and do "groups" in terminal. if there is a sudo group its fine
[15:08] <OerHeks> net2014, time to do a fresh install, to be sure. it is not that hard, and takes less than a hour
[15:09] <Pici> Thats a bit extreme
[15:10] <net2014> what about the other solution? locking the password of root?
[15:10] <ballmer> if you buy a used pc, using it without a fresh install is risky
[15:10] <net2014> it's not used, it's new
[15:10] <net2014> I don't know why there is a root use
[15:10] <net2014> r
[15:10] <k1l> net2014: did you read what i wrote?
[15:10] <ballmer> then who would been the 1st user other than you?
[15:11] <OerHeks> net2014, heh. you started with "<net2014> I added password to root, but when I am a user..."
[15:13] <net2014> kill yes, I did, there is a sudo group, so disabling the root user, would be safe?
[15:13] <net2014> ballmer, what if they created more users first and then deleted them?
[15:13] <k1l> yes. since you can use sudo if you need root powers
[15:14] <net2014> but do I actually have a root user? ubuntu has a user accounts panel in settings in gui, and there isn't a root user
[15:14] <k1l> net2014: ubuntu doesnt use the root user.
[15:15] <k1l> net2014: that is what sudo is all about.
[15:15] <k1l> !sudo | net2014
[15:15] <ballmer> net2014, who? the factory?
[15:15] <net2014> ballmer, it's not actually some well know brand
[15:16] <ballmer> net2014: i'd reinstall if it's some small company and they have put other users in. too much weirdness.
[15:16] <ballmer> i don't trust lenovo or dell either based on their shady track records
[15:17] <net2014> what about that locking solution? to lock the password of root?
[15:17] <k1l> net2014: i think we answered that now several times: lock the root password back again. dont use the root account, use sudo when you need root powers.
[15:17] <ballmer> if they've got something bad installed and had physical access to the machine its impossible to get rid of it.
[15:18] <k1l> but dont use root powers everytime. that will spoil the setup once again.
[15:18] <ballmer> you'd have to format and reinstall
[15:19] <loveheartjoylove> I plugged my phone into my USB3 port, data transfer rate is < 220KB/s. What do I do? This is torcher. It's a N5.
[15:20] <k1l> net2014: please read the message from the bot to get a clue what the concept of sudo is.
[15:21] <ravegen> Good day. Does ubuntu have active directory domain service like of windows server ?
[15:21] <loveheartjoylove> I still pronounce sudo "soo doe," it'd been a few years of having only seen that word written Then someone told me what it meant
[15:22] <ballmer> ravegen, https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2008.12.linux.aspx
[15:22] <ballmer> ravegen, also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[15:22] <DirtyCajun> loveheartjoylove: i know exactly what it stands for and i still say soo doe
[15:22] <DirtyCajun> well.. suu doe
[15:22] <net2014> well, Pici said do sudo passwd -l, OerHeks says do sudo passwd -dl root, aren't these different? on locks the password, the other one disables root?
[15:23] <gabmus> hey people. I'm having some problems with ssh: I want to connect to my remote vps running 15.10 using my rsa public key. it has already worked for both my laptop and my phone, but for some reason its not working on my desktop pc. all three rsa keysare stored in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:23] <net2014> kil thanks, I got that
[15:24] <gabmus> the clients are respectively: laptop->arch, phone->android/connectbot, desktop->arch
[15:24] <macsurf> hello it is possible cross-compile older version kernel on new Ubuntu, because I have all the time error messages or compiler-gcc5.h missing ?
[15:25] <daum_> hey guys this is weird, so i can't ping google.com but if i do host google.com or host -v google.com it shows up fine.  My /etc/resolv.conf is nameserver 8.8.8.8
[15:26] <narcos> Hi all. I'm trying to get the browser to start when a user logs in. I'm using matchbox window manager, and chromium. In my ~/.xsession I have:   chromium-browser & \n exec matchbox-window-manager  -use_titlebar no
[15:26] <ikonia> daum_: why have you got that in your resolv.conf
[15:26] <narcos> When I login no browser, (and the title bar for the WM still appears), but if I check with ps the browser is running
[15:26] <daum_> ikonia, its a static ip
[15:26] <ikonia> daum_: ubuntu uses dnsmasq so you shouldn't be editing the resolv.conf
[15:26] <ikonia> daum_: not sure what a static IP has to do with it ?
[15:27] <daum_> ikonia, it looks like all my servers that have static ips have it there
[15:27] <ikonia> is this an ubuntu server install ?
[15:27] <daum_> yes
[15:28] <ikonia> so what happens if you do "ping google.com"
[15:28] <daum_> unknown host
[15:28] <daum_> but if i do host google.com it finds it fine
[15:28] <ikonia> what is in your nsswitch.conf
[15:29] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/A3kJweMz
[15:29] <net2014> revert
[15:29] <net2014> sorry, mistake ^
[15:29] <ikonia> is there an entry in the host file ?
[15:29] <daum_> ikonia, for what?
[15:29] <burdickjp> I'm having trouble getting apt-get to work on an ubuntu server installation. I eekp getting "could not resolve pac.zcalertwo.net" and can't find anything about that in searches
[15:29] <ikonia> daum_: google.com
[15:30] <CIclops> ikonia, hi i'm still stuck trying to reinstall a package that was removed during upgrade along with about 200 others, why would it do that?
[15:30] <daum_> ikonia, oh no
[15:30] <ikonia> daum_: if you do "nslookup" - on it's own, just like that, what do you get ?
[15:30] <ikonia> CIclops: you'd need to provide details
[15:30] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/FsmM7MLK
[15:30] <k1l> burdickjp: can you show a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" in a pastebin
[15:30] <CIclops> ikonia, sure what do you need ... this is 14.04.3
[15:31] <ikonia> daum_: thats interesting, so your resolver is working (although the truncated message is a bit worrying)
[15:31] <net2014> sudo
[15:31] <net2014> mistake ^
[15:31] <ikonia> daum_: can you show me "uname -a" please
[15:31] <ikonia> CIclops: details on the problems
[15:31] <daum_> Linux goose 3.19.0-25-generic #26~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 24 21:16:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:32] <ikonia> daum_: so it's totally stock, there is no hypervisor,
[15:32] <daum_> oops sorry replace goose with "viper" there , had ran that on wrong server
[15:32] <burdickjp> everything in sources.list is out-of-the box us.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:32] <ikonia> daum_: no big deal
[15:32] <burdickjp> there's nothing in sources.list.d
[15:32] <daum_> ikonia, yep we're just installed diretly.  then we have two networks 1 internal private 1 public
[15:32] <daum_> different devices
[15:32] <ikonia> daum_: pastebin netstatn -rn
[15:33] <CIclops> ikonia, skype was removed during an upgrade and now it won't reinstall
[15:33] <ikonia> this won't be a problem, but lets remove doubt
[15:33] <ikonia> CIclops: define "won't reinstall"
[15:33] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/7JxtHPSi
[15:33] <net2014> so, basically to get rid of the root user OerHeks says "delete it, and logout/login > sudo passwd -dl root # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root_accoun"
[15:34] <ikonia> daum_: looks sane
[15:34] <ikonia> daum_: humour me, do "traceroute google.com"
[15:34] <burdickjp> I'm not sure how to get something into pastebin from a console-only install
[15:35] <net2014> I logout/login and then sudo passwd -dl root ? or no need to logout/login? and what about, 1st user created has privileges? user accounts panel, says there is only one user, me, plus a samba user I created lately, that is used only be samba. First user will be me?
[15:35] <daum_> ikonia, google.com: Name or service not known
[15:35] <daum_> ikonia, definitely something weird with how i set these all up as i just noticed none of them can resolv the domain names, but are all publicly accessible
[15:36] <k1l> burdickjp: you use ssh, right? so copy the text from the terminal and put it into the pastbin site
[15:36] <ikonia> daum_: what about www.google.com
[15:37] <daum_> same
[15:37] <ikonia> is it just google or any external domains
[15:37] <CIclops> ikonia, softare center starts install and says: Package dependencies cannot be resolved ... then shows this list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597103/
[15:37] <ikonia> eg: wget http://www.google.com
[15:37] <daum_> yeah looks like any
[15:38] <daum_> its so weird dig is able to find it too
[15:38] <burdickjp> k1l: give me a few to get ssh up and get into it
[15:38] <ikonia> CIclops: do it from the command line
[15:38] <ikonia> daum_: so part of this I can explain, why I don't know
[15:38] <k1l> burdickjp: or attach a "| nc termbin.com 9999" to the command
[15:39] <ikonia> daum_: so you have basically a library on your system called libresolv which is where it's hooked up to nswitch.conf to find out where it should go to get dns
[15:39] <ikonia> in your case files then dns
[15:39] <ikonia> if you query something with say, nslookup, host or dig, it doesn't use libresolv, it goes directly to the name server (which you know is working - great)
[15:39] <ikonia> for some reason it appears ping/wget/curl/whatever is either ignoring libresolv, or your resolver is not configured correclty
[15:40] <ikonia> CIclops: you'll get more info about that's failing and why
[15:40] <ikonia> CIclops: that dependency list is terrible and the fact that libc is missing suggests your machine is in a very bad way
[15:40] <CIclops> ikonia,  like this? sudo apt-get install skype-bin:i386?
[15:40] <daum_> ikonia, weird...hmmm
[15:40] <burdickjp> k1l: I was remembering there being something like that, but couldn't remember what
[15:40] <loveheartjoylove> Why is the alpha so large? Does this mean the footprint is also going to be oversized?
[15:41] <ikonia> CIclops: just sudo apt-get install skype
[15:41] <teward> !ubuntu+1 | loveheartjoylove
[15:41] <burdickjp> k1l: termbin.com/52c4
[15:41] <ikonia> daum_: you understand what I'm saying though ?
[15:41] <ikonia> daum_: just for run, could you run ldd against the ping binary
[15:41] <k1l> burdickjp: ok, can you do this with a "sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[15:42] <daum_> yeah - so the resolver isn't working so hot but things that just look at the resolv.conf and uses that namesrever works fine
[15:42] <ikonia> so the good news is your name server is working
[15:42] <ikonia> it's just going to be a question of understanding what you've done to break the resolver lookup
[15:42] <daum_> http://pastebin.com/cW73uTt4
[15:43] <nonaTure> hi
[15:43] <daum_> ikonia, this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81797/nslookup-finds-ip-but-ping-doesnt looks familiar but my nsswitch file is already setup as they recommend
[15:43] <ikonia> daum_: looks sane
[15:43] <daum_> ikonia, also the network i do know now does support multicast on itsince one of our products is using it to cluster
[15:44] <ikonia> daum_: for argument, take a backup of the nsswitch.conf file so thats safe and remove files from the hosts section of nsswitch
[15:44] <burdickjp> k1l: it doesn't seem to like that. I get "use netcat." and then it spits the output to console
[15:44] <ikonia> daum_: you could even just strip it down to 1 line, hosts: dns
[15:45] <daum_> so just have the entire file be that?
[15:45] <ikonia> nothing else would work - but it would be a good test
[15:45] <ikonia> yeah
[15:45] <k1l> burdickjp: ok, so does the apt update work?
[15:45] <burdickjp> k1l: no
[15:45] <daum_> ikonia, do i need to restart some service or something?
[15:45] <ikonia> no
[15:45] <burdickjp> k1l: failed to fetch and then some links
[15:45] <k1l> burdickjp: what error?
[15:45] <CIclops> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14598258/
[15:45] <net2014> basically, here is the deal, I will summarize the issue. I found out I have a root user and was able to log in to it in the terminal, then I added a password for protection. But I am not actually supposed to have a root user, as all ubuntu users. So, to fix that I do sudo passwd -dl root. But what happens then to the system? System will give admin rights to 1st user? user accounts panel in system settings says there are two users, me
[15:45] <net2014> (I have admin rights), and then the samba user I created lately. This means, system will revert to me and give me admin rights? or are there any other hidden users perhaps?
[15:45] <daum_> still no luck
[15:45] <nonaTure> hey guys, how come that the ubuntu download links are NOT SECURE?
[15:45] <burdickjp> k1l: and then could not resolve 'pac.zcalertwo.net'
[15:46] <nonaTure> no httpS
[15:46] <ikonia> nonaTure: don't need to be
[15:46] <nonaTure> don't need to be?
[15:46] <k1l> net2014: on ubuntu there is a root user. but there is no password so you cant login with a password.
[15:46] <k1l> net2014: so you use sudo if you need root powers.
[15:46] <ikonia> CIclops: do you have any PPA's or 3rd party repos configured
[15:46] <CIclops> ikonia, yes
[15:47] <k1l> net2014: to be very clear now: get rid of that root password and never set it again. thats all
[15:47] <ikonia> CIclops: ok, so didn't I advise you to undo all that earlier
[15:47] <CIclops> ikonia, yes but i don't which one(s) or how
[15:47] <net2014> k1l, so I just enter sudo passwd -dl root and that's all? no worries about the system, it will be as before and users won't get messed up?
[15:47] <ikonia> CIclops: all of them, and I told you to use ppa-purge
[15:48] <k1l> net2014: and please read the article about sudo. we explained you 10 times now. but you still dont get the idea. so please read the article linked by the bot
[15:48] <nonaTure> how to check if I have downloaded the original ubuntu and not a backdoored? ikonia
[15:48] <ikonia> nonaTure: checksum
[15:48] <ikonia> md5sums
[15:48] <nonaTure> ikonia: the checksum is also not served over httpS
[15:48] <ikonia> daum_: very odd, and this is on every box
[15:48] <nonaTure> or where can I find it?
[15:48] <net2014> k1l, thanks for all this information, but  I just enter sudo passwd -dl root and that's all? no worries about the system, it will be as before and users won't get messed up?
[15:48] <daum_> yep ikonia all 7...they were all setup pretty much the exact same
[15:49] <k1l> net2014: yes
[15:49] <ikonia> nonaTure: if you feel it's needed, raise a bug on launchpad.net
[15:49] <k1l> net2014: and dont set the password for root again. that is a bad advice on ubuntu.
[15:49] <nonaTure> that is a hardcore security bug
[15:49] <net2014> k1l, thanks
[15:49] <net2014> thank you all
[15:49] <ikonia> raise a bug if you feel it is important then
[15:49] <ikonia> daum_: I'll need to think, this is very puzzling
[15:50] <pmow> I've been fiddling with pwmconfig/lm-sensors all morning, and I've figured out that i2c-i801 module isn't loading.  I've read that it can be blacklisted if there's a conflict, but it's not in the blacklists and dmesg does not show any conflicts even after I successfully load it.
[15:50] <nonaTure> I want to write about it
[15:50] <nonaTure> but before I want to confirm with you that I am not blind
[15:50] <ikonia> nonaTure: go on then
[15:50] <pmow> How might I load it properly on boot?
[15:50] <daum_> ikonia, not even sure what i'd say haha - will let you think o n it, and am looking around to see if there si anything else that may be going on here
[15:50] <k1l> nonaTure: how do you expect the md5sum should be presented to you?
[15:50] <nonaTure> there is no way to check if one has got the right (original) version?
[15:50] <ikonia> daum_: it's got to be something silly thats missing here,
[15:50] <shamis> Hey guys, I'm trying to write a python script to log the output of the "top" command every given time interval, but I also need the command to output multi-core loads on CPU (as per the 1 option in interactive mode) and RAM usage. Can anyone please help
[15:50] <k1l> nonaTure: check the md5sum
[15:51] <ikonia> daum_: these are standard installs, nothing you've done to them etc
[15:51] <daum_> for the hosts file
[15:51] <luketheduke1> I'm experimenting with fork bombs in a KVM VM & noticed under system monitor that the CPU running the VM seems to swap a lot. Does anyone know why it does that?
[15:51] <luketheduke1> by swap, I mean the CPU being used for the VM changes frequently
[15:51] <k1l> or other hashes that are provided
[15:51] <nonaTure> where can I find the checksum? k1l
[15:51] <k1l> !md5sum | nonaTure
[15:51] <nonaTure> ubottu: this is also a http link without security
[15:51] <burdickjp> k1l: did I miss something?
[15:51] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/buBSwF68 is my hosts file - xx.xx is just the public ip, viper is the hostname
[15:52] <alexf> Is there a channel for questions about the xenial builds?
[15:52] <ikonia> daum_: looks sane
[15:52] <ikonia> alexf: #ubuntu+1
[15:52] <nonaTure> actually there is a httpS version for it
[15:52] <daum_> should that just be on the internal ip? or does it not matter
[15:52] <alexf> ikonia: ty
[15:52] <daum_> rather the loopback
[15:52] <ikonia> daum_: fine
[15:53] <daum_> ikonia, resolfconv is start/running according to status
[15:53] <ikonia> daum_: hmm, that suggests dnsmasq is involved still
[15:53] <nonaTure> ikonia: ubottu : just the HOWTO is secure. not the actual hashes... on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:53] <ikonia> daum_: is dnsmasq running (check with ps)
[15:53] <ikonia> nonaTure: no idea why you are telling me
[15:54] <daum_> ikonia, nope
[15:54] <ikonia> nonaTure: log a bug / write about it / use a torrent
 burdickjp: what error?
[15:55] <burdickjp> k1l: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-security/Release.gpg Could not resolve 'pac.zcalertwo.net'
[15:55] <daum_> should i stop resolvconf?
[15:55] <ikonia> daum_: that shouldn't matter without dnsmasq, but you can try
[15:55] <burdickjp> k1l: a few lines before that without the could not resolve, and a few after which include the could not resolve
[15:56] <daum_> ikonia, hm no luck still can't ping
[15:56] <daum_> is there a way to clear the dns cache locally?
[15:56] <k1l> burdickjp: what is pac.zcalertwo.net?
[15:56] <nonaTure> ikonia: where to fill the 'bug' ?
[15:56] <ikonia> nonaTure: laundpad.net
[15:56] <burdickjp> k1l: i have no idea
[15:56] <ikonia> daum_: you're not using a local cache
[15:56] <nonaTure> telling you because everybody should be interested
[15:56] <daum_> since when i first booted these up it definitely work working, the only thing that really has changed is the on the private network we disabled igmp snooping
[15:57] <ikonia> nonaTure: I'm already aware of this though
[15:57] <k1l> !bug | nonaTure
[15:59] <fales> @search "neural computation"
[16:00] <k1l> burdickjp: is that the server name?
[16:00] <burdickjp> k1l: no. i genuinely don't know what it is or has to do with. I've tried connecting out by the local wifi and by tethering my phone and both ways do that.
[16:01] <daum_> ah wait a second
[16:02] <daum_> ikonia, anything you see weird here: http://pastebin.com/U64DPxuM
[16:03] <ikonia> daum_: nah, thats incoming only
[16:03] <daum_> blah haha
[16:03] <ikonia> daum_: and you already know the port is open and you can manually query the name server
[16:03] <ikonia> daum_: if you want to remove doubt, disable the firewall for a few minutes
[16:04] <jgornick> Hey folks, I'm trying to load a driver for my USB WiFi adapter. I've installed the linux-firmware package on my 14.04 instance, however, it doesn't seem to be loading the module via modprobe for the chipset driver I need. Any ideas on next steps? I'm specifically trying to load the rtl8192cu driver for my TRENDnet TEW-648UBM device.
[16:04] <k1l> burdickjp: look up the hostname and host configs if there is something wrong
[16:04] <daum_> yep no luck there either
[16:04] <nonaTure> have fun using your unsecure linux
[16:05] <ikonia> daum_: I'm thinking, this is interesting,
[16:07] <burdickjp> k1l: hostname has the name of the server in it
[16:07] <burdickjp> k1l: host.conf has "order hosts,bind" and "multi on"
[16:07]  * CIclops waits for ikonia to finish thinking
[16:09] <CIclops> when I ppa-purge a package it updates the packages lists then says "Could not find package list for PPA" does it matter?
[16:09] <ikonia> CIclops: yes, that means it can't wor
[16:11] <net2014> hello
[16:11] <net2014> thanks you advice about disabling root worked as a charm
[16:11] <burdickjp> k1l: I'm going to try something else for this box. thank you for the help, anyway.
[16:12] <net2014> I am trying now to allo samba in ufw, but sudo allow apache2 doesn't work
[16:12] <k1l> burdickjp: sorry, got no clue what is wrong there
[16:12] <net2014> it can't find apache profle, any deas?
[16:13] <burdickjp> k1l: that makes two of us, then.
[16:13] <burdickjp> k1l: have a good one.
[16:13] <net2014> ah,ok, it was apache, not apache2
[16:16] <drake01> hi! what extra does ubuntu 16.04 has which isnt/won'tbe there in ubuntu 14.04?
[16:17] <genii> squirrels
[16:18] <DirtyCajun> well its a major revison.
[16:18] <DirtyCajun> the first thing taht comes to mind is systemd is standard
[16:18] <DirtyCajun> are you worried about something drake?
[16:19] <daum_> ikonia, any other ideas - i cang think of anything here
[16:19] <ballmer> 16.04 will have unity 7, the 4.4 kernel, and updated apps
[16:20] <DirtyCajun> ^ dat conciceness so sexy
[16:20] <ikonia> daum_: still thinking, it's certainly confusing
[16:20] <ballmer> its unity 8 where things will be very different
[16:20] <ikonia> daum_: ok - lets look at it a bit more
[16:20] <ikonia> daum_: do "strace ping www.google.com" stick it in a pastebin, it's going to be big
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> drake01  wait for 16.04 reviews, support in #ubuntu+1
[16:21] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/VdP70ZYv
[16:22] <ikonia> daum_: how annoying it is parsing resolv.conf
[16:22] <ikonia> daum_: lets have another look at resolv.conf please
[16:23] <daum_> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/AK2eVHe2
[16:23] <ikonia> daum_: more reading, hang on
[16:23] <daum_> sec i figured this out it hink
[16:23] <daum_> if i move my hostname "viper" in this case
[16:24] <daum_> to the loopback
[16:24] <daum_> instead of public ip
[16:24] <daum_> botta boom
[16:24] <ikonia> so that should only matter if it's using dnsmasq
[16:24] <ikonia> nice spot though
[16:24] <ikonia> I can't see any reason that would matter, i'll need to think
[16:24] <daum_> shrug ps aux doesn't show anything with dns int he name other then the grep itself
[16:26] <daum_> thanks for helping out
[16:26] <daum_> the strace pointed me at that hosts file again
[16:26] <ikonia> daum_: you helped yourself, so well done
[16:27] <elpasmo> Hi all, I messed up my ubuntu 15.10 removing python2 and I want to reinstall. I have 3 partitiones, one for root, one for home and the swap one and I want to keep my home partition. Thing is I tried to reinstall ubuntu and it failed so, wich option should I choose? I want to keep my home but to erase all the rest (/usr/local/). I have the following options: Erase Ubuntu and reinstall (but it warns me that I will lose my documents), Install ubuntu 15.10 alo
[16:28] <start_user500> hello
[16:28] <start_user500> anyone who have some experience with dd-wrt ? :o
[16:29] <k1l> start_user500: better ask the dd-wrt cannel right?
[16:29] <rypervenche> start_user500: Sure, but this is not the place for questions about it.
[16:29] <start_user500> i know there's the ddwrt channel but all ppl are idling there :\
[16:29] <rww> which doesn't make it on-topic for here
[16:29] <rypervenche> start_user500: And go openWRT^^
[16:29]  * coma_ :D
[16:29] <start_user500> rypervenche: i guess is the same
[16:29] <start_user500> btw because some people maybe use ddwrt...
[16:30] <rypervenche> Taking to PM.
[16:30] <nicomachus> start_user500: there is also ##networking
[16:31] <DS-McGuire> Can somebody help me out? I've tried to flash  my MX4 using the ubuntu-device-flash method and it failed to enter recovery in the process and now my phone wont boot. Anybody who helps me out I'll donate £5 via paypal!
[16:31] <xangua> ! Touch | DS-McGuire
[16:31] <rww> DS-McGuire: you probably want #ubuntu-touch, they're much better at phone stuff than us
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> !phone | DS-McGuire
[16:31] <start_user500> nicomachus: maybe networking could work but i'm unsure
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> xangua  was faster
[16:32] <rww> rww did it without using a factoid and thus wins
[16:32] <rww> one of these days i'm going to kickban ubottu for a day and see how many support helpers survive
[16:33] <DS-McGuire> Thanks guys!
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> rww  remove a car repairman's utensils and see how long he'll survive
[16:33] <DirtyCajun> rww: wants to watch the world burn
[16:33] <rww> i dispute MonkeyDust's analogy but agree with DirtyCajun
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> rww  ubottu is a help tool, nothing more
[16:35] <scootero> hello there!
[16:39] <Luyin> hello, i'm looking for a package or ppa for apache's openNLP. is there such a package?
[16:40] <LxLuther> #cisco
[16:41] <Dro> whats the meaning of this, is it dangerous ?
[16:41] <Dro> https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/gpg_2e643534c18a87b977178d0847b8aa99905e854e.txt
[16:42] <Dro> this command:
[16:42] <Dro> sudo rm -r /var/cache/apt/archives/* && curl https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/sources_2e643534c18a87b977178d0847b8aa99905e854e.txt | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list && curl https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/txt/gpg_2e643534c18a87b977178d0847b8aa99905e854e.txt | sudo tee /etc/apt/gpg_keys.txt && sudo apt-get update && apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install apache2
[16:42] <Pici> Dro: I don't see anything at that url.
[16:43] <nicomachus> looks like it is adding a gpg key.
[16:44] <rypervenche> Dro: Depends on if you trust the site and what it's putting in your sources.list.
[16:44] <Dro> nicomachus, and what does that mean?
[16:44] <Dro> rypervenche, the content of sources.list seems to be legit
[16:44] <rypervenche> Dro: We can't see what is in that text file.
[16:44] <Dro> but the command is too strange for me :D
[16:44] <marcos123> hi
[16:44] <marcos123> i need help
[16:44] <marcos123> https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:45] <Dro> when i run it my screen was closed for 2 seconds
[16:45] <rypervenche> Dro: The commands are fine. If you trust the content and the gpg keys, go for it.
[16:45] <Dro> and i found my system locked
[16:45] <marcos123> i am running some services as root in seafile seahub
[16:45] <marcos123> in my ubuntu
[16:45] <truckcrash> When using "Connect to Server" in files (see here: http://i.imgur.com/5zFi7rO.png) is there a way to pass flags to the sftp command? I need to add some options to get it to connect
[16:45] <Dro> thats why i'm asking if its dangerous..
[16:45] <linuxlove> hello
[16:45] <linuxlove> how can i know in which group am i ?
[16:45] <linuxlove> with terminal
[16:45] <linuxlove> how can i know in which group am i in terminal?
[16:45] <marcos123> but i want to run service as normal user in ubuntu
[16:45] <marcos123> any help?
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  groups
[16:46] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, it shows several groups
[16:46] <linuxlove> MonkeyDust, they are groups that i am a member of it?
[16:47] <marcos123> any ubuntu geek?
[16:47] <truckcrash> linuxlove, yes
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> linuxlove  yes
[16:47] <Luyin> doesn't the command up there overwrite the sources.list?
[16:47] <marcos123> problems to change ownership of service running
[16:47] <Luyin> shouldn't it bee "tee -a" ?
[16:47] <Luyin> *be
[16:47] <linuxlove> hey guys my netbeans stops at starting moduals what should i do?
[16:47] <rypervenche> Luyin: It's meant to.
[16:48] <marcos123> change root to normal user in service running for ubuntu?
[16:48] <marcos123> any help?
[16:48] <ikonia> marcos123: what do you mean ?
[16:49] <marcos123> ikonia
[16:49] <marcos123> https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:49] <marcos123> this is the tutorial
[16:49] <marcos123> when i run the final scripts
[16:50] <marcos123> runs as root the service
[16:50] <marcos123> in port 8000
[16:50] <ikonia> so follow the tutorial
[16:50] <marcos123> i want to run the process service as normal user
[16:50] <loveheartjoylove> Sooo, I installed ubuntu 15.10 using my USB drive. But now I only get boot errors when I try to reinstall it
[16:50] <marcos123> not root
[16:50] <loveheartjoylove> Helpity help help me
[16:50] <ikonia> so either run the script as a non-root user, or look in the script what's changing to a root user
[16:50] <marcos123> for example when mysql is installed run as mysql ownership
[16:51] <ikonia> marcos123: correct, it needs to be run as root
[16:51] <linuxlove> hey guys my netbeans stops at starting moduals what should i do?
[16:51] <loveheartjoylove> Nothing should be different!!!
[16:51] <loveheartjoylove> It should be the exact same process a followed when it worked, and did not fail
[16:51] <loveheartjoylove> Linuxlove? Seriously? We're friends.
[16:51] <marcos123> ikonia it needs to run as root?
[16:51] <marcos123> ikonia what you mean?
[16:52] <ikonia> marcos123: I mean mysql server process needs to be urn as root
[16:52] <ikonia> it then spawns a child owned by a different use using the mysql_safe script
[16:52] <marcos123> ikonia have a look in the tutorial https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:52] <ikonia> no
[16:53] <ikonia> marcos123: follow the tutorial or don't,
[16:53] <marcos123> ikonia: i follow the tutorial
[16:53] <marcos123> ikonia the files are store in /opt
[16:53] <marcos123> only root has access
[16:54] <ikonia> marcos123: ok - so there you go
[16:54] <ikonia> run it as root
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia i dont want to run it as root my service
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia it is insecure
[16:54] <ikonia> marcos123: then start the service as a non-root user
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia i want to have less privileges
[16:54] <marcos123> ikonia how i do it?
[16:54] <ikonia> marcos123: how are you starting it ?
[16:55] <marcos123> ikonia https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-install-seafile-on-an-ubuntu-14-04-vps/
[16:55] <ikonia> stop posting that
[16:55] <ikonia> I'm asking you - how are YOU starting it
[16:55] <marcos123> ./seafile.sh start  ./seahub.sh  start
[16:55] <ikonia> ok - so run that as a non-root user
[16:56] <marcos123> ikonia i can´t run as non-root user
[16:56] <ikonia> why not
[16:56] <marcos123> ikonia it say permission denied
[16:56] <ikonia> change the permissions on the script then
[16:57] <marcos123> ikonia chmod -R user /opt/seafile   is that correct?
[16:57] <marcos123> ikonia and then ./seafile.sh start  ./seahub.sh  start
[16:57] <ikonia> no
[16:57] <ikonia> chmod sets the privileges, not the user
[16:57] <marcos123> ikonia give me an example
[16:57] <zykotick9> ikonia: re:marcos123 i have no interest in finding out what seafile is, but if it's using a low network port... that could create another permission issue.
[16:57] <ikonia> marcos123: man chmod
[16:57] <ikonia> zykotick9: I'm pretty sure it will
[16:58] <ikonia> be he seems unwilling to accept that it needs to be run as root
[16:58] <ikonia> it's in the 3000's though
[16:58] <SchrodingersScat> zykotick9: seems to use 8000 for some reason, may not be a problem?
[16:58] <ikonia> so he may get away with it
[16:58] <mustmodify> I have sudden-onset loss of network from my linux machine. This has happened intermittently before and, in the past, I came to the conclusion it might be a network hardware or driver issue. Any thoughts on how I can diagnose since I'm currently seeing the issue? No way of knowing how long it will last. Current symptom: "ping: unknown host google.com"
[16:58] <ikonia> ahh 8000's
[16:58] <marcos123> zykotick9 the port is 8000
[16:58] <ikonia> mustmodify: what does the syslog on the machine say when it fails
[16:58] <marcos123> zykotick9 not problem with permission
[16:59] <zykotick9> marcos123: ikonia: SchrodingersScat: it was total speculation on my part ;)
[16:59] <zykotick9> marcos123: good luck!
[16:59] <ikonia> zykotick9: there will be many more obsticles, so it's worth pointing out
[16:59] <SchrodingersScat> zykotick9: there's likely other reasons it won't work :^)
[17:01] <mustmodify> ikonia: most recent entries look like "GLib-CRITICAL: Source ID (various 4-digit numbers) was not found when attempting to remove it"
[17:01] <ikonia> mustmodify: not looking for the most recent, looking for what happens when your network card goes down
[17:01] <marcos123> ikonia i find the way exec start-stop-daemon --start --chuid daemonuser --exec /bin/server_cmd
[17:01] <mustmodify> well, that just happened.
[17:02] <mustmodify> timeframe is about right.
[17:02] <marcos123> ikonia this is an example
[17:02] <ikonia> marcos123: go on then
[17:02] <marcos123> ikonia but i think it will work
[17:02] <ikonia> do it then
[17:02] <mustmodify> entries before that are "Processor 1 heated above trip temperature; throttling enabled" followed almost immediately by "below trip temperature"... but that was 30 minutes ago.
[17:02] <ikonia> marcos123: so there is nothing to suggest that your network card link has gone down
[17:02] <ikonia> marcos123: oops, sorry not you
[17:03] <ikonia> mustmodify: so there is nothing to suggest that your network card has gone down
[17:03] <mustmodify> ikonia: assuming that would be in syslog, then no, I guess not.
[17:03] <mustmodify> I'll try to ping myself.
[17:03] <ikonia> mustmodify: so is it not possible that your ISP is the problem
[17:03] <ikonia> and you're default route is going down
[17:04] <mustmodify> ikonia: well it's not my IP because it's sister machine, right next to it physically and on the network, is fine.
[17:04] <ikonia> mustmodify: what's not your ip
[17:05] <mustmodify> My ISP can't be the problem.
[17:05] <ikonia> ahh ISP
[17:05] <mustmodify> I'll switch cables to verify.
[17:05] <ikonia> can your machine talk to anything in your network
[17:05] <mustmodify> AHHHH
[17:05] <mustmodify> sorry for the typo
[17:05] <ikonia> no problem
[17:05] <mustmodify> doesn't seem like it.
[17:05] <mustmodify> but if your theory is right, then if I switch cables, logopolis should come up.
[17:05] <ikonia> mustmodify: the fact that the link is still up or not being reported as "down" in the syslog suggests the network stack and card is still up
[17:07] <mustmodify> ikonia: Switched cables and now they both work.
[17:07] <mustmodify> So that kinda sucks.
[17:07] <mustmodify> from a diagnostic perspective.
[17:07] <ikonia> just keep an eye on it
[17:08] <mustmodify> :)
[17:08] <mustmodify> thanks for the sanity check.
[17:08] <truckcrash> When using "Connect to Server" in files (see here: http://i.imgur.com/5zFi7rO.png) is there a way to pass flags to the sftp command? I need to add some options to get it to connect
[17:14] <obiwahn> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[17:14] <obiwahn> how can i download the gcc-6 package
[17:15] <welovfree> Hi guys, how can I uninstall desktop environment I previously installed and don't like?
[17:16] <ikonia> open the package manager, click remove on the package
[17:16] <mike3> welovfree what distro?
[17:17] <welovfree> ikonia, Ubuntu 14.04
[17:17] <welovfree> mike3,
[17:17] <nicomachus> welovfree: what DE?
[17:17] <mike3> apt-get remove kde
[17:17] <mike3> ?
[17:17] <welovfree> nicomachus, plasma
[17:17] <mike3> pretty sure that's about it. I haven't used a desktop environment in years.
[17:18] <nicomachus> ikonia's method should work, welovfree
[17:18] <nicomachus> some others like to stick config files in places that are tricky to get to...
[17:18]  * nicomachus looks at i3
[17:19] <welovfree> nicomachus, where can i see the whole list of DE I've installed?
[17:19] <xangua> welovfree: there's not really an easy method to remove a desktop environment you installed, beside having taking note of what packages did you install
[17:21] <josejavier> heeey muy buenas chavales
[17:21] <josejavier> todo bien todo correcto y yo que me alegro?
[17:22] <xangua> josejavier: English please
[17:22] <kamell> buenas
[17:22] <nicomachus> !es | josejavier
[17:22] <rww> josejavier: English here, please. #ubuntu-es for spanish.
[17:22] <nicomachus> rww wins again
[17:22] <josejavier> ok buei
[17:22] <josejavier> le peto el xchat?
[17:22] <josejavier> jajajajajaajajjajaajajjajajajajaajajaj
[17:22] <josejavier> windows es mejor
[17:23] <k1l> josejavier: english only in here
[17:23] <rww> aww, i was about to do that with the message "rww es mejor"
[17:23] <rww> ruining all my fun ikonia
[17:23] <ikonia> sorry
[17:24] <welovfree> is this message "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 535 not upgraded."  means I'm having the up to date package I'm trying to install?
[17:25] <nicomachus> "le peto el xchat" comes up as "I breastplate the xchat" on translate... :?
[17:29] <CIclops> ikonia, still stuck here trying to purge these PPA packages, can i just uninstall them?
[17:29] <xangua> CIclops: that's what PPA purge does
[17:30] <welovfree> is this message "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 535 not upgraded."  means I'm having the up to date package I'm trying to install?
[17:30] <xangua> CIclops: you'll probably be better with a clean install(backup) and don't add every single PPA you find posted somewhere
[17:30] <ikonia> CIclops: you're in a mess
[17:30] <xangua> welovfree: what are you trying to install?
[17:31] <Craigwell> I have my system set up to hibernate now, but it doesn't actually do it. When I select hibernate, it shuts down as if it is hibernating, but when I power up again - it's a fresh boot.
[17:31] <ikonia> CIclops: I'd suggest you backup your data - re-install with the correct version of ubuntu and move forward CAREFULLY from that clean point
[17:31] <welovfree> xangua, Numix theme
[17:31] <Craigwell> this is in fstab: Is it correct?  /dev/sda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
[17:32] <ubuntu474> Hai
[17:32] <CIclops> ikonia, that's a LOT of work ... no way to fix the offending dependencies?
[17:33] <ikonia> I suspect based on what you're showing me - you'll find it quicker than trying to fix the mess you're in with the understanding you have
[17:33] <xangua> welovfree: you need their PPA https://numixproject.org/
[17:34] <welovfree> xangua, I've added them
[17:34] <xangua> welovfree: then what's the issue?
[17:35] <xangua> If you have any issues with their PPA, please contact then
[17:35] <xangua> Them
[17:36] <welovfree> xangua, I want to make sure I've got the last release I'm having an issue installing it
[17:36] <welovfree> xangua, I've already installed and activated the theme
[17:36] <xangua> welovfree: then check the PPA itself?
[17:36] <welovfree> xangua, ok
[17:37] <welovfree> xangua, thanks
[17:42] <CIclops> ikonia, this system has successfully installed all updates since it was created in 2014, the last update  saw some issue and suggested a partial update, which I did, at the end it asked if unneeded package should be removed, about 200 of them! foolishly i said yes ... *now* i see skype was in the list, is there a way to reinstall all those deleted packages?
[17:44] <zykotick9> CIclops: <for next time> _never_ do a partial upgrade, it translates to "i'm going to break your system"...  best of luck.
[17:46] <CIclops> zykotick9, then there should be a warning, it was the first time i've seen that in maybe 50 upgrades
[17:46] <Surendil>  welovfree: why not using dpkg -l | grep kde to see installed package, then remove with apt-get remove or apt-get purge?
[17:47] <zykotick9> CIclops: <sidenote> you should _never_ see a partial upgrade offered (if you're running default ubuntu repos, i'd guess you aren't)...
[17:48] <ioria> CIclops, you can try a  cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep autoremove -A 9
[17:49] <CIclops> zykotick9, yes i have several PPAs and they've been happy with all upgrades until today
[17:49] <CIclops> ioria, what does that do?
[17:50] <cosec_> guys, how do i instal and use wine ?
[17:50] <ioria> CIclops,  it tells you which pkgs are in 'autoremove'
[17:50] <CIclops> thx
[17:50] <zykotick9> ioria: fyi, your suggestion _might_ cause further problems/breakages now :(  CIclops just so it's clear, something, on you system got updated that _breaks_ other packages, now you want to put those things back...
[17:51] <ioria> zykotick9, ah, ok
[17:51] <CIclops> ioria ... null output so i assume none are
[17:52] <ioria> CIclops,  if 'autoremove' is not in history.log , something changed ...
[17:53] <CIclops> zykotick9, i see restoring broken packages is not a good idea, can all 200+ packages be broken?
[17:53] <CIclops> after a single upgrade
[17:54] <CIclops> i have the list
[17:54] <ioria> CIclops,  i was reading your 'it asked if unneeded package should be removed,'    i thought it was 'autoremoved'
[17:54] <CIclops> ioria, yes so i assumed it was okay to remove them
[17:55] <ioria> CIclops,  so it should shoes up in your history.log
[17:55] <ioria> *shows
[17:55] <ShaggyInc> any ex-Mac users here?
[17:55] <mike3> ShaggyInc me
[17:55] <ShaggyInc> Is there any way to get Chicago as aPCF font?
[17:55] <mike3> well current if I could afford one
[17:56] <mike3> No clue :)
[17:56] <ShaggyInc> man
[17:56] <hackitosh> ext3 0r ext4 file different
[17:56] <ShaggyInc> mike3, it's the font that made classic macos shine
[17:57] <CIclops> ioria, it's quite brief .. maybe too long for here, i'll pb it
[17:57] <ShaggyInc> mike3, great for low-res screens or with visibility impairment
[17:57] <Papfox> Evening everyone. I have a fresh install on a new machine and I'm having trouble with it. What can I do to try to find the cause of repeated kernel panics please?
[17:58] <CIclops> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599185/
[18:00] <ioria> CIclops,  well ,  Commandline:   should be apt-get autoremove   ...
[18:00] <ioria> CIclops,  i think it's not that
[18:01] <CIclops> ioria, it was about 256MB of updates .. latest firefox and a new kernel that didnt get installed
[18:02] <ioria> CIclops, try this    cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep autoremove          do you have any outputs ?
[18:02] <CIclops> ioria, no outputs
[18:03] <ioria> CIclops, so, no logs about autoremove   :(
[18:03] <zykotick9> ioria: it was the partial-upgrade that removed things - in real time...
[18:04] <ioria> CIclops,   what was your original issue ?
[18:05] <CIclops> ioria, the partial upgrade removed my Skype probably other packages too ... i have the list
[18:05] <ioria> CIclops,   wait... there are logs about the upgrades ....
[18:05] <CIclops> and now i can't reinstall it
[18:07] <CIclops> ioria,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599250/
[18:08] <jalt> What is the best wait to update the gcc toolchain on 14.04? Toolchain test PPA?
[18:09] <ioria> CIclops,   you can't reinstall Skype or you can reinstall anything ?
[18:11] <chachasmooth> $ git-dch
[18:11] <chachasmooth> gbp:error: Version 1.9.9-2 not found
[18:11] <chachasmooth> what does that mean?
[18:12] <net2014> hello
[18:13] <net2014> I have a network with a windows and an ubuntu pc
[18:13] <net2014> if I install mysql server in ubuntu, I can log in to the databases from a client in windows pc, right?
[18:14] <potato_farmer> only if you allow remote logins to mysql on the ubuntu system
[18:14] <CIclops> ioria sudo apt install skype  says "Some packages could not be installed."
[18:14] <net2014> potato_farmer, I see
[18:15] <CIclops> ioria i have installed a tool since, that was okay
[18:15] <net2014> for ubuntu security, besides a firewall, an antivirus, setting users and permissions, what else do you need?
[18:15] <net2014> obviously, when you install a server you setup authentication
[18:16] <net2014> but do you need something else?
[18:16] <bazhang> !info skype partner | CIclops
[18:16] <ioria> CIclops,   how did you install Skype ? with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[18:16] <bazhang> enable partner repo CIclops
[18:18] <CIclops> ioria, forgotten ... it's been installed since 2014
[18:18] <ioria> CIclops, have enabled Canonical Partner in Software & Updates ?
[18:18] <ioria> +you
[18:19] <CIclops> yes
[18:19] <ioria> CIclops, and it does not work ?
[18:19] <CIclops> it's totally gone
[18:19] <CIclops> removed
[18:20] <bazhang> apt update and upgrade following adding the repo CIclops
[18:20] <ioria> CIclops, ^^ bazhang
[18:20] <CIclops> bazhang ?
[18:21] <xangua> CIclops: around two hours ago was the first message I saw of you, by this time you could already have reinstalled Ubuntu and every single PPA you had
[18:21] <ioria> CIclops,  be sure to have ticked the Canonical Partner and run  sudo apt update
[18:21] <xangua> Less than half an hour to just install Ubuntu
[18:22] <ioria> that's right too
[18:22] <net2014> besides steam, what else programs like that, would you recommend for ubuntu?
[18:22] <CIclops> xangua, multitasking here .... i estimate it would take a few days to rebuild my system
[18:23] <ioria> CIclops, so try again to install (run update  and upgrade)  and post the errors you got
[18:23] <CIclops> apt update and upgrade?
[18:24] <ioria> CIclops, yep
[18:24] <CIclops> k
[18:27] <ikonia> CIclops: the quicker you get to a trusted state - your machine in my view is not a trusted state
[18:27] <ikonia> the less problems you'll have
[18:28] <CIclops> ioria update was fine, upgrade stopped here: The following packages have been kept back: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386
[18:28] <ikonia> the upgrade was not fine then was it
[18:28] <ikonia> or it wouldn't stop
[18:28] <CIclops> update was fine
[18:28] <ikonia> clearly not
[18:29] <ioria> CIclops,  kept back is not an error
[18:29] <ikonia> as it's not moving forward
[18:29] <ioria> CIclops,   sudo apt full-upgrade
[18:29] <CIclops> ioria, same result
[18:30] <ioria> CIclops,   dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[18:31] <skirlet> hi everyone(: has anyone had this issue? last night all my vid files including dvds stopped playing sound on my Ubuntu 14.04 .webm, .avi, .mov .mp4 in any player: vlc, videos, gnome player. ideas on how to fix/ what's up here? thanks!!
[18:31] <skirlet> the only player that will play vids with sound is kdenlive
[18:31] <CIclops> ioria, i386
[18:32] <bob2021> skirlet: use kdenlive.
[18:32] <CIclops> kdenlive is ***cool**
[18:32] <bob2021> another problem solved :)
[18:32] <bob2021> you're welcome ;)
[18:32] <ioria> CIclops,   try again   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:32] <coma_> try to update codecs mb
[18:33] <skirlet> kdenlive is cool, tru dat, any ideas about what what's up
[18:33] <CIclops> ioria, The following packages have been kept back: gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386
[18:34] <ioria> CIclops,   and it stops ... with no other output ?
[18:34] <CIclops> ioria, displays this and stop
[18:34] <CIclops> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[18:35] <ioria> CIclops,   ok, and if you try to install Skype ... what you got ?
[18:36] <ankur> hellp guys
[18:36] <coma_> m?
[18:37] <CIclops> ioria, ... Some packages could not be installed. .. (long list) .. E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[18:38] <ioria> CIclops,   you are on wily ?
[18:38] <ankur> i just installed ubuntu mate latest addition but not able to set mouse pointer color "Black". is there any suggestions?
[18:40] <coma_> Mate uses themes and mouse pointers of gnome2 (gtk2 actualy), so a good place to start looking is gnome-look.org , here you can find many themes for the mouse pointer to install, and it works, I use mate myselve.
[18:40] <coma_> After downloading the theme file (do not extract it!) go to the appearance screen of gnome/mate, there you have a install button, use it to install the downloaded theme. afterwards you can go to customize to change it.
[18:41] <CIclops> ioria, wily?
[18:42] <ioria> CIclops,   cat /etc/issue
[18:42] <CIclops> ioria, 14.03.3 LTS
[18:43] <CIclops> oops 14.04.3 :)
[18:44] <ioria> CIclops,   and what servers/repo are you using ?
[18:44] <CIclops> main
[18:45] <ankur> coma_: Thanks
[18:45] <CIclops> canonical. independent and several PPAs
[18:46] <ioria> CIclops,   oh, are you using ppa ?
[18:47] <CIclops> yes
[18:47] <ioria> CIclops,  maybe they are the problems ?
[18:47] <start_user500> oook so :) can someone help me setup my printer on ubuntu? :O
[18:47] <CIclops> ioria, and others like dl.google.com .. is that a PPA?
[18:47] <ioria> CIclops,  no
[18:48] <start_user500> i will need to use it via router attached on usb, is better to test first the driver connecting the pc via usb ?
[18:48] <CIclops> ioria, seems that one or more PPA is the problem
[18:49] <CIclops> ioria, five ppas
[18:49] <ioria> CIclops,  if you run     apt-cache policy   gcc-4.9-base
[18:50] <CIclops> Installed: 4.9.2-10ubuntu13  ... Candidate: 4.9.3-0ubuntu4
[18:51] <ioria> CIclops,  can you pastebinit the full output ?
[18:51] <CIclops> k
[18:52] <ioria> CIclops,  but on trusty  should be Installed: 4.9.3-0ubuntu4
[18:52] <CIclops> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599599/
[18:52] <Papfox> @start_user500 Try plugging it into the machine via USB and see what happens. It may "just work"
[18:52] <start_user500> Papfox: no is that i have to use it via a router
[18:53] <ioria> !info gcc-4.9-base trusty | CIclops
[18:53] <CIclops> i can remove it?
[18:53] <Papfox> @start_user500 Do you mean a router (eithernet network device) or a USB hub?
[18:54] <ioria> CIclops,  no
[18:54] <CIclops> k
[18:54] <TJ-> ioria: CIclops I'd suggest debug logging those pkgProblemResolver::Resolve breaks
[18:55] <ioria> CIclops, you have the vivid one
[18:55] <ioria> !info gcc-4.9-base vivid | CIclops
[18:55] <CIclops> ioria,  not very trusty :)
[18:55] <ioria> CIclops, why ?
[18:55] <CIclops> dunno
[18:55] <start_user500> Papfox: no a router with usb support printer sharing
[18:55] <start_user500> Papfox: cups like it listen on port 9100
[18:56] <ioria> TJ- 's right
[18:56] <ioria> CIclops, try to swith to us repos
[18:57] <CIclops> server for United States?
[18:57] <ioria> CIclops, yep, and update & upgrade
[18:58] <Papfox> @start_user500 If you click the Ubuntu button, type "printers", open the printer app, press the "add" button then click "Network printer" and wait a few secons, does the machine discover the printer automatically?
[18:58] <TJ-> CIclops: capture the debug log to a pastebin. "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes -f install | tee >(nc termbin.com 9999)"
[18:59] <start_user500> Papfox: nope, but if i go for Find network Printer and i type my router address it says: JetDirect printer port 9100
[18:59] <start_user500> Papfox: the problem is i don't know wich driver select
[19:00] <Papfox> @start_user500 If you select that port and continue, it doesn't query the printer and work out which driver it needs?
[19:00] <start_user500> Papfox: i fear that i'm selecting the bad interface on router side
[19:01] <start_user500> Papfox: because i tried even with simple text or raw data
[19:01] <start_user500> Papfox: and still is not seeming to work
[19:01] <TJ-> start_user500: what make/model of printer is it?
[19:01] <start_user500> canon mx 870
[19:01] <TJ-> start_user500: and how is the router 'sharing' it?
[19:01] <start_user500> via jetdirect
[19:01] <start_user500> with a daemon called p910nd
[19:01] <Papfox> @start_user500 Does the router have a web interface? Try pointing your web browser at it and see if there are any settings you need to change to activate the printer.
[19:02] <start_user500> i have to select the usb device to share with p910nd
[19:02] <start_user500> i have 1-1, lp0, lp1
[19:02] <TJ-> start_user500: OK, so in the PC's CUPS you've selected the JetDirect print port, then you need to choose the correct Canonc MX870 cups driver
[19:02] <Guest56428> hello _me.braodcast anyone out there?
[19:04] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : This are the lines showing my printer connected on the router, maybe i configured bad p910nd http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599688/
[19:04] <CIclops> TJ-, is this right "sudo apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes -f install | tee >(nc termbin.com 9999)"
[19:05] <CIclops> just hangs
[19:07] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : This instead is the /dev i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599714/
[19:07] <Papfox> @start_user500 the device seems to be offering two printers to you usblp0 and usblp1. Try sudo echo "This is usblp0" > /dev/usblp0
[19:08] <Papfox> @start_user500 then sudo echo "This is usblp1" > /dev/usblp1
[19:08] <start_user500> Papfox: it will print something this way?
[19:08] <start_user500> let's try
[19:08] <TJ-> CIclops: I tested it here first and it worked; are you using the 'bash' shell ("echo $SHELL") ?
[19:09] <Callek> soooo, I am on 15.10 with the "default" window manager. I use alt+d a *lot* in my browser, but the window manager keeps stealing that shortcut to do a desktop search thing, any advice on how to disable the stealing of it from the window manager?
[19:09] <Papfox> @START_USER500 Even if it it down't print, hopefully one of those will at least make the lights on the printer flash to say it has data to print.
[19:09] <Callek> specifically it steals with the Firefox logo and says "type your command"
[19:10] <CIclops> TJ-, yes bash ... ok works now
[19:11] <start_user500> Papfox: well it seems not
[19:11] <start_user500> Papfox: i'm trying with all the interfaces there
[19:12] <start_user500> how can i do a sort of diagnostic for understand wich could be the port? i guess they are 2 usb because one is the printer and one the scanner, or am i wrong ?
[19:12] <Papfox> @start_user500 Where did the data from the pastebin come from please? The pc or the router?
[19:12] <CIclops> TJ-, ioria  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599746/
[19:13] <start_user500> Papfox: the router wich the printer is attached to
[19:13] <start_user500> Papfox: because i fear i'm doing correctly the things on the pc but i'm using the wrong port on the router
[19:13] <Papfox> @star_user500 I think the problem is the router. Can you get into it with a web browser?
[19:13] <start_user500> Papfox: yes but is a wrt
[19:14] <start_user500> Papfox: my goal was indeed to print even 2-3 chars with the printer, then start checking drivers and stuff on the pc
[19:15] <start_user500> Papfox: on devices however i have no /dev/usb/lp0
[19:15] <start_user500> Papfox: i have /dev/lp0
[19:16] <TJ-> CIclops: OK, that's good - nothing is actually broken. Now run the command to "install gcc-4.9-base" instead of "-f install" and lets see what it doesn't like
[19:16] <start_user500> Papfox: i was thinking i could cat some input
[19:16] <start_user500> Papfox: cat /dev/lp0
[19:17] <TJ-> start_user500: The printer is claiming to be USB Printer Device Class compliant; if you can't get output from it when echoing to the device, then it may not be totally USB-Printer compatible
[19:17] <Papfox> @start_user500 cat name_of_some_file > /dev/lp0
[19:17] <start_user500> ok ok so..
[19:17] <TJ-> start_user500: there are some printers that claim to be bi-directional but aren't, or can't cope with repeated status queries when theres data in the buffers
[19:17] <start_user500> i tried to cat /dev/lp0
[19:17] <start_user500> and prints lot of stuff
[19:18] <start_user500> and tried to print cat /dev/lp1
[19:18] <start_user500> and doesn't print anything
[19:18] <Papfox> @start_user500 cat /dev/lp0 tries to display the contents of lp0 which will be nothing.
[19:18] <TJ-> start_user500: I don't tihnk you have /dev/lp{0,1} - the usblp driver uses /dev/usblp{0,1} nodes, as the dmesg log shows
[19:19] <Papfox> @start_user500 try cat name_of_some_file > /dev/usblp0
[19:19] <Papfox> @start_user500 What is the make and model of the router please?
[19:20] <start_user500> Papfox: the router is a 1043nd with actually a ddwrt latest build on
[19:20] <TJ-> start_user500: try this (it sends a form-feed too) echo -ne "This is a test page\014" > /dev/usblp0
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> Papfox  drop the @ ... simply type sta and then hit tab
[19:21] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : this is what happen if i cat /dev/lp0 http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b81d18f7
[19:21] <Papfox> MonkeyDust, Thanks
[19:21] <CIclops> TJ-, ioria  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14599801/
[19:21] <start_user500> TJ-: Papfox : had to use paste debian because the <? on the beginning make him thinking is a script
[19:23] <start_user500> TJ-: that line didn't make the printer print but turned on the printer lcd while she was sleeping
[19:23] <start_user500> !
[19:23] <TJ-> start_user500: That suggests the printer is NOT in text-mode by default, so you have to use a driver for it
[19:24] <start_user500> TJ-: ok so if i enable the p910nd with that port.. i can maybe being able to use ubuntu with the drivers for it
[19:24] <calinsalagean> Hello. Does anyone tried to connect an android phone to Ubuntu 14.04 and answer calls from Ubuntu?
[19:25] <Papfox> start_user500, WHat is the make and model of the router and what is its IP address please?
[19:25] <start_user500> Papfox: 1043nd v2, ddwrt build 28882 and ip 192.168.1.1
[19:25] <TJ-> CIclops: " libstdc++6 : Depends: gcc-4.9-base (= 4.9.2-10ubuntu13) but 4.9.3-0ubuntu4 is to be installed "
[19:26] <TJ-> CIclops: it looks as if one or more of those packages listed there didn't come from the main archives, but from a PPA/3rd party, and that/those are preventing the upgrade
[19:27] <CIclops> TJ- it's possible
[19:28] <Papfox> start_user500, Have you read this? https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Printer_Sharing
[19:29] <CIclops> TJ-, is there a way to force it to use the main one?
[19:30] <start_user500> Papfox: ooh so the secondary could be the fax
[19:31] <TJ-> CIclops: you'll need to identify the packages coming from the PPA, and remove or manually update those to the packages from the Ubuntu archive first
[19:31] <start_user500> Papfox: maybe is working ! :O
[19:31] <start_user500> Papfox: let's see
[19:32] <TJ-> start_user500: from what I read the canon driver (on CUPS) would need to use a BJP protocol driver to talk to the printer
[19:32] <CIclops> TJ-, how do i manually update specific packages?
[19:33] <Surendil> CIclops, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should update all package
[19:34] <Surendil> CIclops, to upgrade one package just apt-get install package, if it's installed and there's and update, it will update the package
[19:35] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- seems superslow... let's see what she's printing
[19:36] <Papfox> start_user500, It's probably not going to be stellar fast. A router doesn't have the most meaty CPU in it.
[19:36] <TJ-> CIclops: for all those packages listed, do "apt-cache policy <packagename>" and see where the installed version comes from. If not from the archive.ubuntu.com repos, then that package likely came from a 3rd party repository. Once you have a definite list of packages from 3rd party repos, you can work through them to find out why they are there, and whether it is safe to remove them.
[19:36] <start_user500> Papfox: i see :o
[19:36] <start_user500> Papfox: but router cpu % is 0
[19:37] <start_user500> Papfox: also it's written that p910nd is done for configs who has not so much storage space
[19:37] <start_user500> Papfox: it should just forward
[19:37] <TJ-> start_user500: it should just be doing passthrough from the network socket to the USB device node
[19:37] <start_user500> TJ-: it is indeed
[19:38] <start_user500> seemingly she printed the test page
[19:38] <start_user500> i will not dare to print photos with that lol
[19:38] <CIclops> TJ-, thanks, now I have a plan!
[19:38] <poolq> i am lazy what is the offtopic channel?
[19:38] <Papfox> start_user500, I'm just saying don't expect too much from a small, single board device that's number one priority is going to be switching the packets for the network.
[19:39] <start_user500> Papfox: i see :D
[19:39] <Bashing-om> poolq: ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <Papfox> start_user500, Like my QNAPdedicated NAS always performs better than plugging a USB drive into my Netgear router.
[19:40] <poolq> thanks
[19:40] <marek__> Hello. I get greeter screen, but cannot login to gui in VM (qemu) after installing nvidia-352 for graphics card that's assigned to guest with pci passthrough (lspci shows it right, with correct driver). Where should I look for help? Here? #nvidia? #qemu?
[19:40] <start_user500> Papfox: that's obvious but maybe i expected a more normal printing speed
[19:41] <Papfox> start_user500, How bad is it?
[19:41] <start_user500> like 3 min for a page
[19:41] <TJ-> CIclops: from my checks so far it looks as if "libstdc++6" is from Vivd (15.04) not Trusty (14.04)
[19:42] <start_user500> no maybe a bit better... hmm i need some page for test
[19:42] <marek__> My problem looks exactly like widely described problem with .Xauthority wrong ownership. But mine is good.
[19:43] <Papfox> marek__, Where does it go wrong? Can you type the username and password or does it fai after you hit enter?
[19:43] <marek__> Papfox: It fails after I type password, and hit enter.
[19:44] <marek__> Papfox: Just blinking black screen and comming back to login greeter
[19:44] <Papfox> marek__, Can you ssh into the VM from the host?
[19:44] <TJ-> marek__: use a VT console log-in (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and check $HOME/.xsession-errors after it fails, see if there are any clues left behind
[19:44] <start_user500> Papfox: maybe it could be the fact i'm connected in wifi but i gave text only to write
[19:45] <marek__> Papfox: basically "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[19:45] <marek__> Papfox: I'll try to ssh co I can paste full log
[19:46] <start_user500> Papfox: like i could consider a dedicated print server lol
[19:46] <sambagirl> what is ubuntu low letency?
[19:47] <Papfox> marek__, SOunds like it's having a problem finding the nvidia GLX. That's probably a misconfigured xconfig or missing package
[19:47] <marek__> Papfox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600143/
[19:48] <Papfox> sambagirl, I don't know but it sounds like the kind of thing someone would call a build of Ubuntu with a real-time kernel.
[19:49] <marek__> Papfox: I've checked all nvidia and nouveau related packages. All are the same, what another installation (not in VM) that works fine displaying on both NVidia heads and iGPU.
[19:50] <TJ-> marek__: check the VM's /var/log/Xorg.0.log - it looks like the 3D acceleration isn't there, which could be due to "nomodeset" type issues
[19:51] <Papfox> marek__, What is the output of sudo dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[19:51] <TJ-> marek__: and what hypervisor is it doing the passthrough, qemu-kvm ?
[19:52] <marek__> Papfox: that's dpkg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600180/
[19:53] <marek__> TJ: yes. kvm
[19:54] <Papfox> marek__, Have you checked the host machine's BIOS to make sure that Intel VT-D or the equivalent for AMD if it's an AMD machine is enabled. A couple of our machines we made into appliances at work came out the box with the Virtualisation turned on but the device passthrough disabled.
[19:54] <TJ-> marek__: are you sure the *host* driver hasn't claimed the GPU (nouveau or nvidia) ?
[19:54] <CIclops> TJ-,  yes that seems to be the odd one out
[19:55] <start_user500> Papfox: perfect i will clean a second my router setup so :)
[19:55] <marek__> TJ: here is Xorg.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600202/
[19:55] <TJ-> CIclops: does "apt-cache policy libstdc++6" show where it was installed from?
[19:56] <Papfox> start_user500, Well done :)
[19:56] <marek__> Papfox: I did check VT-D that couple of times. All virtualization is on in BIOS.
[19:56] <ioria> CIclops, did you solve ?
[19:56] <TJ-> sambagirl: -lowlatency is pre-emptive multi-tasking, as opposed to cooperative multitasking in -generic
[19:56] <CIclops> TJ-, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:56] <marek__> Papfox: Would GPU be visible in guest if VT-d would be off?
[19:56] <Seminarian> Hey guys I've got a laptop 2ghZ, 2gb ram, Nvidia card 512MB.. I wonder if I should install Ubuntu or Xubuntu. What do you think?
[19:57] <Papfox> marek__, We have one model of machine (an HP) than randomly buy infrequently turns it off all on its own.
[19:57] <TJ-> CIclops: so, it could have come in via you having the Vivid LTS enablement stack ?
[19:57] <TJ-> CIclops: what does "dpkg -l '*lts-' " report ?
[19:57] <CIclops> TJ-, yes I seem to recall it may have
[19:57] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- thank you for the help :)
[19:58] <Papfox> Seminarian, You can always install ubuntu then, if the performance stinks add the package xubuntu-desktop and you can then select which you want whenever you log in.
[19:58] <TJ-> sambagirl: -generic is more suitable for servers, -lowlatency for desktops
[19:58] <marek__> TJ:  GPU is claimed by vfio-pci and audio by pci-stub (http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600218/)
[19:58] <Papfox> start_user500, You are welcome. I hope it works well for you.
[19:58] <Seminarian> Papfox: Okay ty, and I suppose for gaming it's best to use xfce?
[19:58] <Seminarian> Papfox: To have best performance
[19:59] <TJ-> marek__: So that seems good. So, back to looking at the guest's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:59] <Papfox> Seminarian, You may want to give lubuntu a spin too and see which you like best (package lubuntu-desktop)
[20:00] <Seminarian> Papfox: I thought xubuntu was the most lightweight desktop environment? I'll check lubuntu out
[20:01] <DirtyCajun> Seminarian: the lightest desktop is the one you install the least packages to.
[20:01] <marek__> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600202/ - that's Xorg.0.log
[20:01] <CIclops> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600254/
[20:01] <Seminarian> "Xfce is a free & open source desktop environment for Unix-like platforms, unlike LXDE, Xfce is not a “very very lightweight” GUI, but it focuses on being as much lightweight as possible plus keeping the nice visual appearance" -> Oh i learned something new
[20:02] <Seminarian> DirtyCajun: okay, for example what packages would that be?
[20:03] <DirtyCajun> Seminarian: Some of the flavors have minimal isos that allow you to start from scratch and only install as you need.
[20:03] <TJ-> marek__: !! you've got 2 GPUs there, and it's binding to the VGA one with the VESA driver
[20:03] <DirtyCajun> its more work but ground up gives you the most control/least bloat
[20:03] <TJ-> marek__: maybe you should disable the default -vga device in the qemu guest config
[20:04] <mcphail> TJ-: not sure you're correct on those multitasking models...
[20:04] <Papfox> Seminarian, I'm not the best person to pass comment on that. We used Lubuntu in a VM appliance we built at work but I have a leaves-skidmarks-on-the-desk gaming laptop so I've always run full-fat ubuntu with all the eyecandy turned on and not worried about how much of the machine it was hogging.
[20:04] <Seminarian> DirtyCajun: ok sounds interesting, those packages u refer to are that f.e. file explorers?
[20:04] <marek__> TJ-: Ok. Give me sec.
[20:04] <Seminarian> Papfox: cool mate, do you play only games developed for linux or do you play games using wine as well?
[20:05] <DirtyCajun> there are tons of ease of access etc programs. file explorers way to many things to name
[20:05] <DirtyCajun> Seminarian: http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[20:05] <DirtyCajun> thats an example
[20:06] <Papfox> Seminarian, I'm did play games in Steam on Linux on my old machine but the new one has a Linux problem and keeps crashing so my gaming is back in Windows until I get that solved.
[20:06] <TJ-> mcphail: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600292/
[20:06] <yqy> hy there
[20:06] <Surendil> Papfox, check out freeciv-client-gtk, best strategy game ever
[20:07] <Seminarian> DirtyCajun: thanks, awesome might give that one a try using networkboot
[20:07] <Seminarian> Papfox: okay cheers mate
[20:08] <Papfox> Does anyone here have experience of tracking down and solving kernel panics please?
[20:09] <mcphail> TJ-: yep, but the different preemption models don't == cooperative multitasking vs preemption
[20:09] <marek__> TJ-: any idea how to find guest's IP? I have no video on NVidia, and no VNC as I have removed other VGA.
[20:09] <start_user500> thank you so much guys
[20:09] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- : maybe you have also an idea how to rollback apt-get to it's sources.list? i wanna get rid of backports..
[20:10] <start_user500> Papfox: TJ- : my kernel should be 3.04 instead is bringed up to 3.19
[20:10] <marek__> TJ-: anyway I think guest is frozen. Doesn't react to 'virsh shutdown'
[20:11] <Papfox> start_user500, Sorry, I've not tried to do that. 3.19 is the current kernel in the repositories. If you've ticked "install updates while installing" or run update then you will have 3.19
[20:13] <pouet12345> hello
[20:13] <pouet12345> where are stored the deja dup settings ?
[20:13] <adoniscik> could someone help me troubleshoot totem in 14.04? something happened after i installed cuda and now nothing is playing. vlc still works though. what packages might be missing?
[20:14] <adoniscik> i forgot to mention: the problem is segmentation faults
[20:14] <start_user500> Papfox: i see so in order to keep using the 3.14 i have not to tick that button in the install, remove the backports and then start updating ubuntu right?
[20:15] <Papfox> start_user500, Is there any particular reason you don't want to run the latest kernel?
[20:16] <start_user500> Papfox: i would like to use only the stable channel
[20:16] <start_user500> not only the kernel
[20:16] <start_user500> just stay on stable all the time, i no need new features, just the security patches
[20:16] <nicomachus> 3.13 isn't stable enough for you?
[20:17] <eragera> nicomachus, M8!
[20:17] <Papfox> start_user500, If you haven't enabled the backports or proposed software sources then I could consider that you do have what Ubuntu considers to be the latest stable system.
[20:17] <nicomachus> eragera: I do have an M8, how'd you know?
[20:17] <eragera> ...
[20:17] <nicomachus> lol
[20:17] <eragera> Did you find a solution to my problem? Unfortunately, it was 3AM at the time so I had to go to bed
[20:18] <eragera> I solved it somewhat by switching the audiosink from Automatic to ALSA
[20:18] <start_user500> Papfox: i know but for some unknown reasons ubuntu installer ticks automatcly backports
[20:18] <nicomachus> stuttering audio, right? I didn't, but a new version of PulseAudio was just released today, so hopefully there will be a fix by the time 16.04 is released.
[20:18] <start_user500> Papfox: that's why i have new kernel and stuff
[20:18] <Ben64> start_user500: backports are stable
[20:18] <eragera> I still get stutters sometimes
[20:18] <eragera> but not as much
[20:18] <start_user500> Ben64: on ubuntu specifications they say them are untested
[20:19] <start_user500> Ben64: i'm searching the stability a bit more debian like
[20:19] <CIclops> TJ-,  how can I fix that one package?
[20:19] <start_user500> Ben64: more paranoid one :D
[20:19] <Ben64> start_user500: backports doesn't give you a new kernel anyway
[20:20] <start_user500> Ben64: it does
[20:20] <Ben64> nope
[20:20] <start_user500> Ben64: i have no idea why but i have 3.19
[20:20] <start_user500> Ben64: should be 3.04
[20:20] <Ben64> shouldn't be 3.04
[20:20] <Bashing-om> !hwe | start_user500
[20:20] <Papfox> start_user500, You may be able to remove it. Alternatively, do a reinstall, don't tick "install updates while installing" then disable that source before you run update the first time. I don't see a problem with backports though. As far as I'm aware, they are important things that are in newer releases rather than new features.
[20:20] <ahmed> hi
[20:21] <Ben64> if you actually look at the backports repository, you'll see theres not a whole lot there, there is no reason to disable it
[20:21] <ioria> CIclops, on trusty vivid stack you should have anyway 4.9.3 not 4.9.2
[20:21] <start_user500> Ben64: i will read it :)
[20:21] <nicomachus> eragera: if you really want to eliminate it, you can try to replace PulseAudio with a different sound handler. But it's not really something that is supported here, and it will be a lot more work to configure. Alternatives are JACK, apulse, etc...
[20:21] <ioria> CIclops, i think is a ppa issue
[20:21] <nicomachus> eragera: but that is ONLY if you are comfortable with getting deep into the weeds on configuring and learning about those.
[20:22] <eragera> I have Jack, I think
[20:22] <CIclops> ioria, TJ thinks it is one package that came from Vivid
[20:23] <eragera> nicomachus, Im comfortable with doing anything to fix my audio, but in 10 mins. Im helping my friend install Xubuntu onto his PC
[20:23] <nicomachus> eragera: well it's not something I can help with, because I've never used anything besides Pulse.
[20:23] <ioria> CIclops, i have on another machine lubuntu with vivid stack and ggc-base is 4.9.3
[20:23] <eragera> Oh...
[20:23] <eragera> Damn...
[20:24] <eragera> Well then.
[20:24] <Guest7> I installed nvidia-cuda-toolkit and nvidia-modprobe and now I cant boot into the gui. my pc is beeping continuously. wondering if anyone had any idea whats going on?
[20:24] <eragera> Ill be hopping onto Xubuntu LTS soon enough as well
[20:24] <Papfox> start_user500, If you type apt-cache showpkg linux-image-3.19.0-47-generic
[20:24] <nicomachus> Guest7: beeping... like from the motherboard itself? those are usually error codes that are specific to the mobo and you'll have to look them up
[20:24] <Papfox> start_user500, You will see where it came from. It looks like the security repo, not backports
[20:25] <Guest7> also getting "init: failsafe-x main process (1898) terminated with status 1"
[20:26] <nicomachus> Guest7: perhaps this can help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/227227/i-broke-x-probably-by-installing-a-proprietary-nvidia-driver-how-can-i-get-my
[20:26] <CIclops> ioria, how can I fix it?
[20:27] <ioria> CIclops, i think is a ppa issue , again :)
[20:29] <Guest7> nicomachus: thanks for that, will try it out.
[20:29] <ioria> CIclops,  try again apt-cache policy   gcc-4.9-base
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> CIclops  do you have a lot of ppa's ?
[20:31] <CIclops> MonkeyDust,  4 or 5
[20:31] <ioria> CIclops,  also  apt-cache policy  gcc-4.9-base:i386
[20:33] <alimj> Question: What is the recommended password manager to use with Ubuntu? I will need online access and sync with my local system. (and it should be obviously open source)
[20:34] <ioria> sea... something
[20:34] <alimj> KeePas?
[20:34] <CIclops> ioria, both have gcc-4.9-base:i386 installed and 4.9.3-0ubuntu4 as candidate
[20:34] <ioria> seahorse
[20:34] <Guest72178> Hi there, what ip address is an ubuntu machine assigned on choosing link locally under network manager ?
[20:35] <nicomachus> Guest72178: depends on the network. use "ifconfig"
[20:35] <ahmed> hi
[20:35] <ioria> CIclops,  can you paste ?
[20:35] <ahmed> what
[20:35] <CIclops> ioria,  correction: Installed: 4.9.2-10ubuntu13  Candidate: 4.9.3-0ubuntu4
[20:35] <eragera> nicomachus, Do you know how to mount ntfs partitions?
[20:35] <ioria> CIclops,  we need the origin of the pkg
[20:35] <eragera> Xubuntu refuses to mount them
[20:35] <CIclops> looks the same .... will paste
[20:35] <nicomachus> eragera: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[20:35] <Guest7> nicomachus: removing all traces of nvidia got me back into the gui. Will upgrade to 15.04 and see if nvidia and cuda can be installed without issues and work with my GTX980.
[20:36] <eragera> ty
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  usually 169.254.x.x, i guess
[20:36] <nicomachus> Guest7: what are you on now? 14.04?
[20:36] <CIclops> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14600622/
[20:36] <Guest7> nicomachus: yes.
[20:36] <Guest7> wanted to go from LTS to LTS.
[20:36] <nicomachus> Guest7: shouldn't need to upgrade.
[20:37] <nicomachus> Guest7: 15.04 is not LTS. it goes out-of-support in 13 days.
[20:37] <nicomachus> next LTS is 16.04
[20:37] <ioria> CIclops,  looks ok
[20:37] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Release 15.04 goes EOL Feb4 .
[20:37] <DirtyCajun> th^
[20:37] <ioria> CIclops,  uname -r ?
[20:37] <welovfree> Hi guys
[20:37] <Guest7> nicomachus: yes i know, but was tihnking 15 may have support for the gtx980 in some way 14 doesnt
[20:37] <orfeo> Hello folks!
[20:38] <CIclops> ioria, 3.13.0-74-generic
[20:38] <Guest72178> nicomachus: I am wanting to assign ip address to my two ubuntu PCs so that I can ping eachother via a ethernet cable connected directly to each other
[20:38] <nicomachus> Guest7: There are other guys in here with better Nvidia knowledge than I, but what driver options do you show in the "Additional Drivers" menu?
[20:38] <ioria> CIclops, that's not the vivid stack :þ
[20:38] <welovfree> is there a way to make Ubuntu look like Kubuntu's flat look?
[20:38] <Guest7> what is the best method of installing the latest nvidia driver and cuda?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  what's the ip address of your router?
[20:38] <nicomachus> welovfree: you can install kde.
[20:38] <CIclops> ioria, true ;
[20:38] <eragera> nicomachus, that guide is for already installed systems. I want to access it through the LiveUSB environment since my friend doesnt not know which partition is the C:\ partition
[20:38] <nys-> !facts
[20:38] <ioria> CIclops,  you are on an old version of trusty
[20:39] <orfeo> How do I install a VPN Server?
[20:39] <CIclops> ioria, AFAIK current version
[20:39] <eragera> Well he just gave me the aok to the risk of losing data but
[20:39] <nicomachus> eragera: ah. here you go: https://askubuntu.com/questions/186791/how-to-access-files-in-windows-partition-from-ubuntu-live-usb
[20:39] <eragera> ty
[20:39] <ioria> CIclops,   i meant PointReleae
[20:39] <ioria> CIclops,   i meant Point Release
[20:39] <welovfree> nicomachus, how?
[20:39] <nicomachus> rather old, but instructions should be the same.
[20:39] <Guest7> nicomachus: i get nvidia ver 352.63 propietary, tested
[20:40] <nicomachus> welovfree: didn't you remove KDE a few hours ago?
[20:40] <DirtyCajun> so if i type \\server into my windows computer it will bring up my server. but under network it doesnt show until after i type it and only stays for a while. why isnt samba announcing itself to the network?
[20:40] <welovfree> nicomachus, no?!
[20:40] <ioria> CIclops,   if you install trusty today you'll have 3.19 kernel
[20:40] <Guest72178> nicomachus: I am wanting to assign ip address to my two ubuntu PCs so that I can ping eachother via a ethernet cable connected directly to each other
[20:40] <Guest72178> nicomachus: will link only connection do my job ?
[20:40] <nicomachus> welovfree: ah must have been someone else... here's the wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[20:41] <Cyber_Akuma> Would ubuntu load faster if I installed it on a 5400rpm laptop drive, or a usb 3.0 flashdrive?
[20:41] <eragera> Ill have to edit the fstab one way or the other?
[20:41] <eragera> well that sucks
[20:41] <CIclops> ioria, ok i see ... i installed trusty in 2014 ... kernel stays 3.13 plus patches
[20:41] <ioria> CIclops,   it's ok...
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Nvidia recommend the 352 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/95159/en-us. Available in 14.04's repo .
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  what's the ip address of your router? your other machines should be in the same scope ... type arp -a ... does it say 192.168.x.x somewhere?
[20:41] <welovfree> nicomachus, and everything is gonna be just like Kuntuntu
[20:42] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: I am not connected via a router
[20:42] <nicomachus> welovfree: should be.
[20:42] <Surendil> Guest72178, if there's no router assigning ip by dhcp, then you can use: sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0...... on each host
[20:42] <welovfree> nicomachus, Thank you
[20:42] <cpmx> Guest72178, don’t you need a crossover cable
[20:42] <Guest72178> Surendil: Ok, should I need to specify any gateway ?
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  wgat kind of connection is it? 3G? wifi?
[20:42] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: ethernet connection LAN
[20:43] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: just connecting two ends of ethernet cable.
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  ok, type   ip route ... what's the address of eth
[20:43] <Surendil> Guest72178, not necessarily
[20:43] <Guest72178> Will link local option in networkmanager assign an ip itself to both ?
[20:44] <Guest7> Bashing-om: so i have the best driver version then.
[20:44] <Guest7> The issue is with cuda. When i installed cuda i was unable to boot
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  ifconfig ... what does it say
[20:46] <ioria> CIclops,   no, it's not ok ... also on 3.16 gcc-4.9-base is 4.9.3
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  how are you connected to the internet, how are you here
[20:46] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: I haven't connected the ethernet cable.. I was just imagining the condition.
[20:46] <ioria> CIclops,   3.1sorry,  gcc-4.9-base is 4.9.3
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Debateable ... I have seen reports where 352 is "not so stable" . If it works great ! if not see what the system can find from terminal command : ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' to see all available drivers.
[20:46] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: I don't have another machine but I was thinking if link local will do the job or not.. thats all.
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest72178  it's not a real situation?
[20:47] <ioria> CIclops,   i mean on 3.13 you should have 4.9.3
[20:47] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: naaa, if it was I would have tried that link locally option and see the result.
[20:47] <CIclops> ioria, i found why i used a vivid package, ( Qt5WebSockets) i compiled it to make a program that i no longer use
[20:47] <ioria> CIclops,  omg :)
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Does the cuda version match the Nvidia driver version ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? .. and there is no other driver install conflicts ?
[20:49] <Seminarian> What hardware diagnostic live cd/dvd would you guys recommend?
[20:49] <genii> UBCD
[20:49] <genii> !ubcd
[20:49] <genii> Hm
[20:49] <Guest7> Bashing-om: i installed cuda by apt-get install nvidia-modprobe, nvidia-cuda-toolkit. is that the correct way to do it?
[20:50] <genii> Seminarian: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[20:50] <Guest72178> MonkeyDust: are you connected ?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit trusty
[20:51] <Seminarian> You guys are likeminded, ultimate boot cd it is! thx
[20:51] <CIclops> ioria, it's libqt5websockets5-dev --- should be safe to remove that  package?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Guest7: I do not have experience with cuda, I may not be the best person to ask . Does your installed version match ^^ ?
[20:52] <ioria> CIclops,  install ppa is at your risk but compile and install other stuff is very risky
[20:52] <ioria> yes
[20:52] <Guest7> Bashing-om: k will try again now just with nvidia-cuda-toolkit..  I since removed all traces of nvidia to be able to boot. All back to normal now minus cuda. will try again.
[20:52] <Gloomy> Hi
[20:52] <ioria> !info libqt5websockets5-dev
[20:53] <Guest7> what does nvidia-modprobe do?
[20:53] <Gloomy> any *easy* way to connect a mac to a ubuntu laptop on the same network for transfering some files?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Guest7: K. Did you do " apt-get purge --remove nvidia* " ?
[20:53] <ioria> CIclops,  usually the -dev pkgs are not critic...
[20:54] <Guest7> Bashing-om: yes.
[20:55] <eragera> nicomachus, You there?
[20:56] <elijah> What is it called when you press the alt key, the menu appears and then one letter in each menu item is underlined, and if you then press that letter, it selects the menu item. I feel like it is mnemonics but need to know for sure (so I can search for stuff)
[20:56] <ioria> CIclops,  but how did you install it  ? because it's not for trusty ... did you add a vivid repos in sources.list or downloaded a .deb pkg  ?
[20:56] <eragera> One of my other friends who wanted to make a liveUSB with persistence has presented a case to me. He asked "What would happen if.. say... I accidently removed my USB from the system while the LiveUSB environment is running?"
[20:57] <Bashing-om> Guest7: "  nvidia-modprobe do " forces the loading/reloading of the Nvidia module .. correct syntax ' sudo modprobe nvidia ' .. not a package, but a system command .
[20:57] <nicomachus> eragera: well... don't. but I presume it would crash the system. I've never done it.
[20:57] <obiwahn> hi there
[20:57] <eragera> It would crash the system yes, but
[20:57] <eragera> would it also kill the laptop?
[20:58] <ioria> CIclops,  but if you have the -dev pkg, you have also the libqt5websockets5 pkg , remove it too
[20:58] <obiwahn> can anyone help me installing a g++-6?
[20:58] <nicomachus> eragera: if you had filesystems mounted... it could corrupt them. best to just not do that.
[20:58] <eragera> Yea, that's what I thought
[20:58] <eragera> I spent 4 hours helping this guy
[20:58] <eragera> and now he pussies out
[20:58] <eragera> saying "I dont wanna risk it"
[20:58] <nicomachus> language...
[20:58] <eragera> Im sorry
[20:59] <eragera> Im just so annoyed
[20:59] <Finetundra> Can someone help me with using a netgear Wnda3100v2 on mint?
[20:59] <eragera> But atleast my Indian Friend didnt betray me!
[20:59] <nicomachus> !mint | Finetundra
[20:59] <eragera> He said 'I dont care if I lose my data'
[20:59] <eragera> 'just speed up my PC'
[20:59] <Finetundra> fine then do it for ubuntu
[20:59] <nicomachus> eragera: keep it on-topic in here please.
[20:59] <mcphail> obiwahn: no - g++6 isn't supported
[20:59] <eragera> Im sorry
[20:59] <nicomachus> Finetundra: are you using ubuntu or Mint?
[20:59] <eragera> Ill leave now~
[20:59] <Finetundra> nicomachus: ubuntu
[21:00] <Finetundra> want proof?
[21:00] <nicomachus> Finetundra: paste the output of "lsb_release -a" please, then, and "uname -r"
[21:00] <obiwahn> there must be some ppa
[21:01] <mcphail> obiwahn: maybe, but unsupported here
[21:01] <obiwahn> like hum - hom - here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-6/
[21:01] <obiwahn> so that is  not ubuntu?
[21:01] <loubia> Since 14.04, 'apt' can do what  apt-get and apt-cache do. Can apt do the task of 'add-apt-repository', too?
[21:01] <Finetundra> lsb_release -a returns: no lsb modules are available
[21:01] <mcphail> obiwahn: no - ppa's are not supported here
[21:01] <mcphail> !ppa | obiwahn
[21:01] <k1l_> Finetundra: what is "lsb_release -d"?
[21:01] <obiwahn> so how do i build it form source
[21:02] <narcos> Hi all. I'm setting up VNC to fire up a browser when connecting to the box, but upon disconnect/reconnect I'd like to restart the browser
[21:02] <narcos> Is there a way to restart the VNC session automatically?
[21:02] <obiwahn> is that possible in your awesome distribution or is it unsupported as well
[21:02] <k1l_> Finetundra: but as you were told before: mint support is in the mint channels. thanks
[21:02] <Finetundra> k1l_: lsb_release -d
[21:02] <Finetundra> oops, hang on
[21:03] <Finetundra> k1l_: Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[21:03] <obiwahn> and i have no problem wiht a certain ppa
[21:03] <nicomachus> Finetundra: and "uname -r"?
[21:03] <obiwahn> it seems that i do not really know how that apt extension works
[21:04] <obiwahn> and that is part of ubuntu if you like it or not
[21:04] <Finetundra> nicomachus: 3.19.0-32-generic
[21:04] <obiwahn> maybe you should use vanilla debian like i do
[21:04] <Ben64> obiwahn: only the official ubuntu repositories are supported in this channel. you're free to add any ppa or whatever you want, but it isn't supported here
[21:04] <obiwahn> so how does that work
[21:04] <mcphail> obiwahn: you are welcome to install from a ppa or build from source, but you're on your own if/when something breaks. And installing a later version of g++ (especially if you need to update libstdc++ along with it) is an easy way to break your system
[21:05] <dlam> is there a way to do `dpkg -L package-to-see-where-it-install-stuff` but for a *non* installed package?
[21:05] <Guest7> Ok I just installed Cuda again and now get constant pc beeping and no boot. I restart and set the nomodeset bootflag and I can get to the login screen. I try to login but get a login loop, screen flash then login screen again. Only removing cuda will return my system to normal. Anyone have a gtx980 and cuda installed?
[21:05] <k1l_> Finetundra: like told before: go to the mint channels they are set autostart on your mint. thanks
[21:05] <dlam> like im trying to find out where 'python-django-celery' installs stuff
[21:05] <obiwahn> i don't really care if anything breaks
[21:05] <Ben64> dlam: you can download and extract the package
[21:05] <obiwahn> i just want to use a newer gcc in a travis vm
[21:05] <Ben64> obiwahn: then go for it
[21:06] <dlam> Ben64: ohh cool is there a apt-get way to download it or something?  i guess i'd go google it
[21:06] <CIclops> ioria, removed with synaptic,  skype install failed lol ... i am going to logout, thanks for helping!
[21:06] <Ben64> dlam: apt-get download <package>
[21:07] <ioria> CIclops,  you need to reinstall the gcc-4.9base
[21:07] <dlam> ahh thanks thanks
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Maybe, boot up normally ( without nomodeset) and look at the log file " /var/log/Xorg.0.log " for hints where the failure accurs ?
[21:07] <obiwahn> Ben64: http://paste.debian.net/367321/
[21:08] <obiwahn> i did something like that
[21:08] <CIclops> ioria, how?
[21:08] <Guest7> Bashing-om: i get constant pc beeping and blank screen without that flag.
[21:08] <ioria> CIclops, gcc-4.9-base still 4.9.2 ?
[21:10] <obiwahn> https://travis-ci.org/ObiWahn/libobi/builds/104159621 and it results in this
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Ouch ! Wont even boot up with the cuda-toolkit installed . Will have to get real inventive to find the cause .
[21:10] <obiwahn>  sudo apt-get -y install 'cmake-data' 'cmake' 'g++-6'
[21:10] <obiwahn> Note, selecting 'libopencascade-modeling-6.5.0' for regex 'g++-6'
[21:10] <CIclops> iorai, yes synaptic has marked it for upgrade ... should I?
[21:10] <obiwahn> which is not what i want
[21:10] <ioria> CIclops, yes
[21:10] <obiwahn> how do i find out for what releases the ppa offers the g++-6 package
[21:13] <rjb> hi experts, i need your help to configure ldap client ubuntu 14.04 64 bits
[21:13] <k1l_> obiwahn: on the ppa website on launchpad you can filter for releases
[21:13] <obiwahn> i just do not understand why the travis guys choose ubuntu with a debian sid and a bit experimental pinning this would be so much easier
[21:14] <CIclops> ioria, ok back later .. ciao :)
[21:14] <obiwahn> k1l_: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test this page?
[21:14] <ioria> CIclops,  ok
[21:14] <obiwahn> there is a drop down menu
[21:15] <Zedim> hi
[21:15] <obiwahn> lol you should not use irc as root
[21:15] <k1l_> obiwahn: i dont understand messed up system you got there naming ubuntu and debian sid etc.
[21:16] <Seminarian> Mehh, I want to write an ISO from a cd to a dvd but nero burning rom won't let me. Is it possible with other software?
[21:16] <nicomachus> Brasero
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Guest7: The info I find on cuda is seriously out-of-date . I recon it will take someone here with current experience with cuda to assist .
[21:17] <obiwahn> is there anyone willing to help me or do i have to intall ubuntu in a vm and try myself? because at the moment i need to do a commit and wait 3minutes for travis
[21:17] <Guest7> Bashing-om: no worries, I appreciate your help. I will keep bashing away. Thanks a lot.
[21:19] <rjb> can you help to get an Ubuntu 14.04 64 bits machine working with a ldap server?
[21:21] <mcphail> !ldap | rjb
[21:21] <mcphail> rjb: does that help?
[21:21] <obiwahn> !apt-get moo
[21:21] <mcphail> rjb: looks quite old and more concerned with server side...
[21:22] <codinho> wtf, guys, just updated and have a low resolution with intel gpu on 4770
[21:23] <codinho> *intel 4770*
[21:23] <codinho> gpu
[21:23] <xangua> ! Language | codinho
[21:23] <codinho> xangua, ?
[21:23] <rjb> mcphail i need help with the client side
[21:24] <obiwahn> how do i find out what packages a ppa provides>
[21:24] <rjb> mcphail: i was reading http://www.unixmen.com/configure-linux-clients-to-authenticate-using-openldap/ but i cant make it works
[21:26] <OerHeks> obiwahn, see the list on launchpad, or when installed, synaptic can show that details too
[21:26] <mcphail> rjb: there is a link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication , but, again, that looks rather old
[21:27] <mcphail> rjb: It isn't anything I have tried, but perhaps someone else on here can help?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Still looking and found : http://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-getting-started-guide-for-linux/#axzz3y0j6GPQn ... Where Nvidia recommends " sudo apt-get install cuda " ??
[21:30] <Craigwell> I have hibernate enabled in menu, and edited fstab to match uuid, but it's not working on boot..
[21:30] <obiwahn> which list?
[21:30] <obiwahn> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test
[21:30] <Craigwell> can anyone help?
[21:30] <obiwahn> this?
[21:30] <Guest7> Bashing-om: hmm I will read that now
[21:30] <pendulum_> hello there, I got this error while running upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14601191/
[21:30] <rjb> please anyone else with experience with ldap configuration, client side?
[21:30] <Guest7> Bashing-om: thanks!
[21:30] <pendulum_> I tried twice
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Operating system BY choice, when it should work, and does not - I want to know the why .
[21:31] <Craigwell> thinking something is incorrect in fstab, but not sure what else to do
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> rjb  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[21:31] <k1l_> obiwahn: you even said there is a dropdown menu yourself. so what is the issue? i dont understand what you are asking at all
[21:32] <obiwahn> so i guess gcc should be provided
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> rjb  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntu-server
[21:32] <obiwahn> it is even in the pool
[21:32] <akik> rjb: i have but on a red hat system
[21:32] <k1l_> obiwahn: like: choose your release in the dropdown menu and see what packages the PPA contains for you
[21:33] <obiwahn> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/test/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-6/
[21:33] <obiwahn> but why does the install fail?
[21:33] <k1l_> obiwahn: did you read what i wrote?
[21:33] <rjb> akik i followed this guide but it doesnt work yet http://www.unixmen.com/configure-linux-clients-to-authenticate-using-openldap/
[21:34] <akik> rjb: are you able to query the directory with ldapsearch?
[21:34] <rjb> akik: sorry how can i do that?
[21:34] <obiwahn> k1l_: yes and i changed the brower:)
[21:34] <obiwahn> and i see what you mean
[21:35] <akik> rjb: it's quite complicated. do you have a user account in the ldap you're trying to use?
[21:35] <obiwahn> so it is not availalbe for my release
[21:35] <obiwahn> is there a way to force it in?
[21:35] <k1l_> obiwahn: so you have your reason now why the install fails.
[21:35] <obiwahn> yes awesome!
[21:35] <k1l_> obiwahn: no. get a PPA that got one for your release (whatever your release is)
[21:35] <rjb> akik: yes i have
[21:36] <rjb> akik: i am installing ldap-utils
[21:36] <obiwahn> i probaly just have to add the file in the soruces list and change /etc/release and be good
[21:36] <akik> rjb: here's a rough example "ldapsearch -x -h ldap_server -b "base_dn" -D "bind_dn" -W '(filter)'"
[21:36] <k1l_> obiwahn: what is your release?
[21:37] <obiwahn> precise
[21:38] <akik> rjb: but then if it only serves a secured connection, you might need a certificate for access
[21:38] <Surendil> obiwahn, lsb_realease -a or cat /etc/issue
[21:38] <Guest7> Bashing-om: do you think I need to install this older version? It explicitly states it supports GTX9XX gpus... https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads-geforce-gtx9xx
[21:38] <obiwahn> that is the travis default vm
[21:38] <rjb> akik: it ask me for a ldap password
[21:38] <obiwahn> » cat /etc/issue
[21:38] <obiwahn> Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l
[21:39] <Surendil> you are in the wrong channel then
[21:39] <Guest7> Bashing-om: that is ver 6.5, the latest is 7.5
[21:39] <akik> rjb: you got the base_dn and bind_dn right?
[21:39] <obiwahn> no that is my desktop
[21:39] <Craigwell> man oh man
[21:39] <obiwahn> as i said it is just for a build vm
[21:39] <Craigwell> not sure what i have wrong
[21:39] <akik> rjb: bind_dn is a the account you're trying to authenticate with
[21:40] <Craigwell> I've followed a few guides to enable hibernation... swap partition is there. Entry in fstab is there, with uuid from blkid.
[21:40] <k1l_> it will not work on frankenreleases which dont have a proper ubuntu name
[21:40] <marek__> Another problem with kvm. While I can install 15.04 without any problems, when I try to install 15.10 in the same VM, with same setup I get 'Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. Shouldn't it exectue 'grub-install /dev/vda'? How to fix it?
[21:41] <k1l_> obiwahn: and debian doesnt work with PPA
[21:41] <Craigwell> also edited this com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla to change resultactive=yes
[21:41] <rjb> akik: what is base_dn?
[21:41] <akik> rjb: bind_dn can be like "dc=company,dc=com" and then select with "-s sub" to make a subtree search or narrow the base_dn with e.g. "ou=users,dc=company,dc=com"
[21:41] <akik> rjb: sorry base_dn
[21:41] <Craigwell> not getting anywhere. errors out on reboot when i true to boot from hibernation
[21:42] <pendulum_> I tried release upgrade via terminal and got the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14601191/
[21:42] <marek__> in the next dialog, when it asks me for device, I select /dev/vda, click OK, but nothing happends.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Guest7: I am a strong advocate of staying within the release repo . If you are going to stray out of the repo, then be sure you know how to back out of any differing install and how to revert to repo versions.
[21:43] <akik> rjb: there's a java application called jxplorer which you can use to browse a ldap directory
[21:44] <rjb> thank you akik
[21:44] <Guest7> Bashing-om: I dont want to stray from the release repo either. I would love it to just work, but..
[21:45] <Finetundra> can anyone help me install an asus pce-n53 wireless driver on xubuntu? I've tried to build the one they provide but that always results with an error. I also tried ndis wrapper but running sudo modprobe ndiswrapper also returns an error
[21:45] <obiwahn> k1l_: what is wrong with you? i try to install something for ubuntu build vm - all the stuff that i type on my command line is not in that vm
[21:46] <k1l_> obiwahn: is this a  original ubuntu or not?
[21:47] <k1l_> obiwahn: you make a lot of noise (like not finding the drop down menu on the ppa page) and talk about debians and other OS.
[21:47] <obiwahn> the travis vm is a original ubuntu
[21:47] <obiwahn> only that i have no access to it
[21:47] <obiwahn> so i can not try commands like on a real system
[21:47] <obiwahn> it is configured with a file
[21:47] <obiwahn> i put commands i that file
[21:48] <obiwahn> the vm is created
[21:48] <obiwahn> the a few scripts in including my commands run
[21:48] <obiwahn> and when that is over the vm is deleted
[21:48] <obiwahn> travis.com/org
[21:49] <bob2021> can someone help me tell ubuntu to use gestures with my magic trackpad 2?
[21:49] <bob2021> ubuntu thinks its a mouse
[21:49] <OerHeks> so get a supported vm for that ppa, not sure why you want toolchain test packages, as the only new version is 6 for xenial
[21:50] <OerHeks> obiwahn, ^^
[21:50] <obiwahn> lol:) i was just too enraged to type:)
[21:51] <Bashing-om> Guest7: From what I gather ,, make sure that the kernel, GCC, and GLIBC packages support later versions of cuda . IF you stray away from default installs then those packes depending on the default install of the gcc stuff will BREAK .
[21:51] <k1l_> seems like no one cares to make a  gcc-6  for 12.04
[21:51] <bob2021> Guest7: if you want to repeat your question, cuda is the only reason i use ubuntu so i may be able to help
[21:52] <obiwahn> i think i ll try to add it as xenial repo in the sources list and see what happens
[21:52] <Craigwell> is there a way to "refresh" fstab?
[21:52] <Craigwell> I think i have the entry for hibernation incorrect, not sure how to fix
[21:52] <k1l_> Craigwell: run "mount -a" that will re read the fstab
[21:53] <Craigwell> k1l_: I guess I'm trying to revert it back to stock, or fix the hibernation entry
[21:53] <Craigwell> I've tried several tutorials, and something is wrong
[21:53] <OerHeks> obiwahn, hmm with systemD as standard, not sure it will work
[21:53] <Craigwell> I have it enabled in menu, but it wont boot it properly. errors
[21:53] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Guest7 BOB to the recue .. he is sharp !
[21:53] <k1l_> obiwahn: am i right gcc-6 is not even released yet?
[21:54] <OerHeks> k1l_, correct
[21:54] <Guest7> Bashing-om: bob2021: thanks, I did the pre-installation actions.
[21:55] <bob2021> guest7: are you trying to install manually or from aptitude?  what GPU?
[21:55] <bob2021> bashing-om: will you help me fix my touchpad while I fix his GPU?
[21:57] <obiwahn> no it is not
[21:57] <Guest7> bob2021: I am running Ubuntu 14.04.1, I have a i7-870, and a GTX980. I am using the latest 352.63 proprietary / tested driver. All is working fine. When I install nvidia-cuda-toolkit using sudo apt-get install.. I am then unable to boot, get pc beeping.. When I remove cuda all works fine again.
[21:57] <obiwahn> but is has some nice stuff
[21:57] <obiwahn> and i want to have unit tests for that stuff
[21:57] <Guest7> bob2021: sorry for delay was trying to compile my specs and where Im at.
[21:57] <OerHeks> GCC 6 feature development is over and GCC 6.1 should be officially released around March or April.
[21:57] <bob2021> guest7: are you trying to use it for video and cuda at the same time?
[21:58] <obiwahn> OerHeks: mh lets see
[21:58] <k1l_> obiwahn: please read https://gcc.gnu.org/
[21:58] <Guest7> bob2021: not sure what you mean by that. Trying to install cuda to enable gpu rendering in Blender.
[21:58] <obiwahn> why for what?
[21:59] <OerHeks> obiwahn, but you can test with xenial 16.04 alfa, end this month alfa2
[21:59] <bob2021> guest7  - one min, phone
[21:59] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Sure, but my attempts fixing problems with touchpads have been less than stellar .What touchpad, and is the driver installed ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' IF that is the touchpad inuse .
[21:59] <k1l_> obiwahn: because you make a big drama and dont even that its not released yet
[21:59] <k1l_> obiwahn: its just rude!
[21:59] <obiwahn> i want to use it anyway that is not rude
[21:59] <k1l_> *know
[21:59] <Guest7> bob2021: no worries.
[22:00] <bob2021> bashing-om: apple magic trackpad 2, and already installed
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7: first thing you do, is uninstall everything nvidia, nvidia-*, and cuda*, with --purge.  tell ubuntu to not load X at boot.  reboot to command line.
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7: use the nvidia drivers from nvidia's site that you compile, not what's in aptitude.
[22:01] <Guest7> bob2021: the latest cuda toolkit is 7.5 i believe, however I have read and see here that 6.5 supports GTX9XX gpus. Shouldn't the latest 7.5 also support it? https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads-geforce-gtx9xx
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7:  when you reboot into text, first thing is lshw -c video to confirm that the card is recognized and has no driver
[22:01] <bob2021> Guest7: I use a 980 with 7.5
[22:01] <OerHeks> obiwahn, grab the daily live build and go have fun with that toolchain ppa http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[22:02] <Bashing-om> bob2021: K, so what does the system "see" ' /proc/bus/input/devices ' for the device ?
[22:02] <Guest7> ok great, we and in the same boat.. Ok removing nvidia and rebooting. How to boot to cli only?
[22:02] <bob2021> Guest7:  Assuming you see the card on reboot, then compile the drivers from the nvidia website using gcc 4.9. confirm that you see the card with nvidia-smi
[22:02] <obiwahn> OerHeks: i would
[22:02] <obiwahn> but i think i can not select images for travis
[22:03] <obiwahn> https://travis-ci.org/
[22:03] <bob2021> Guest7: Then reboot into text, confirm the driver is being used by modprobe nvidia_352, lshw -c video, nvidia-smi,
[22:03] <bob2021> Guest7: then start X
[22:03] <k1l_> obiwahn: i think you better talk to travis to solve that travis issue
[22:03] <k1l_> bob2021: dont startx. start lightdm
[22:03] <Guest7> bob2021: how to boot into cli only?
[22:04] <bob2021> bashing-om: Which line of input/devices should i be looking at?  The "Handler" is mouse0, the "name" is the name I gave the trackpad, "Amos' Trackpad 1"
[22:04] <obiwahn> k1l_: if you do not have anything clever to say ... you could just say nothing
[22:04] <bob2021> k1l_ yeah that's what i meant
[22:04] <DirtyCajun> so if i type \\server into my windows computer it will bring up my server. but under network it doesnt show until after i type it and only stays for a while. why isnt samba announcing itself to the network?
[22:04] <k1l_> obiwahn: i think you showed enough of your attitude now.
[22:06] <bob2021> Guest7: I forget how you disable lightdm to start at boot, maybe sudo service del lightdm?  but that should be easy for you to google
[22:06] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Beats me .. presently .. I expected something along the lines "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" . // What release are we working with ?
[22:07] <obiwahn> systemctl disable foo.service
[22:07] <bob2021> bashing-om: 15.10
[22:07] <Bashing-om> bob2021: http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 ... pertenant ?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Guest7: At the grub boot menu, 'e' key for edit mode -> boot parameters screen, arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to "quiet splash". replace these terms with the term "text" without the quotes. key combo crl+x to contine the boot process to TTY1. login here with username and password. No responce to the screen when password is entered.
[22:13] <happenspappens> t
[22:13] <Guest7> Bashing-om: thanks did it.
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Back over to bob2021 .. As i peek over the shoulder .
[22:14] <Guest7> bob2021: "lshw -c video" showed display unclaimed, description vga compatible controller, product nvidia corporation, vendor nvidia ...
[22:15] <Guest7> bob2021: unsure how to now: "compile the drivers from the nvidia website using gcc 4.9"
[22:16] <bob2021> Guest7: download them from the website.  there are instructions.  make sure you're using gcc 4.9
[22:16] <bob2021> bashing-om: huh?
[22:16] <bob2021> was on phone
[22:17] <Bashing-om> !info gcc trusty
[22:17] <Guest7> bob2021: i am in a cli now, how to visit the website?
[22:17] <bob2021> Guest7: i would have done that before i went to the cli.
[22:18] <nicomachus> Guest7: you can use install and use lynx from CLI, IIRC
[22:18] <Guest7> bob2021: my gcc version is 4.8.4
[22:18] <nicomachus> or wget if you already know the link to the download.
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Guest7: Groundwork . verify the gcc version installed ' gcc --version ' on your system .
[22:19] <bob2021> Guest7: upgrade it to 4.9
[22:20] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Question, if Guest7 upgrades gcc to 4.9, what all is going to break ?
[22:20] <bob2021> bashing-om: probably a lot, but that's not my issue.
[22:21] <Guest7> bob2021: ?
[22:21] <bob2021> Guest7: it'll be self-explanatory
[22:21] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Tour touchpad : http://www.techblo.gg/?p=301 . Does the boot parameter do anything for you ?
[22:21] <Guest7> bob2021: so i add "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test" then install gcc-4.9
[22:22] <jdiasd> hello! i need help with ufw -> when i want to connect from my computer which is in one local area to another ufw blocks it. if i disable ufw everything work as expected. here is log: [ 5221.079574] [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT=eth1 MAC= SRC=192.168.0.6 DST=192.168.1.1 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=127 ID=32289 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=49877 DPT=80 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0
[22:22] <bob2021> bashing-om: i don't use grub, and boot parameters generally do nothing for me
[22:22] <nicomachus> you don't use grub...?
[22:23] <bob2021> shocking, isn't it
[22:23] <bob2021> :o
[22:23] <dnor> jdiasd: ufw allow http/tcp
[22:23] <dnor> jdiasd: ufw allow status; afterwards
[22:24] <Bashing-om> bob2021: Not real sorry, but not using grub you are out of my skill set .
[22:24] <bob2021> bashing-om it shouldn't be a boot loader issue though
[22:24] <bob2021> should be bluetooth or hdi
[22:25] <dnor> jdiasd: apt-get install gufw; for graphical interface
[22:29] <bob2021> Guest7: I am going to get hummus.  I will be back in a little bit.   the trick to what you're doing is, don't boot right into X, and install the whole nvidia driver package yourself.  you may have to blacklist nouveau.  the reason for the gcc thing, the cuda drivers start to do funky things with some versions of gcc, and the one that I know works is 4.9.  I know 5.2 does not and 4.7 does not.
[22:30] <Guest7> bob2021: ok will try get as far as I can.
[22:30] <k1l_> !away > Guma_away
[22:30] <Guest7> how do i compile a .run?
[22:31] <mib_mib> hi all - how can i install java 8 on ubuntu but not have it be the 'default' java?
[22:31] <ynix> Can somebody explain to me what the daily build is?
[22:31] <k1l_> Guest7: you dont compile it. you run it.
[22:32] <coma_> mib_mib,  i think u need this http://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-jdk-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/
[22:32] <mib_mib> i think i want the openjdk?
[22:33] <k1l_> ynix: a daily build is a automatical build that is not tested by humans.  so any changes that may have affected the stability ight drop in and make it crash
[22:33] <coma_> i was not work with openjdk, sry then
[22:33] <Guest7> bob2021: Bashing-om: ok i have gcc 4.9.3 installed.
[22:33] <coma_> ynix, u may read more about daily build here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_build :))
[22:34] <ynix> k1l_, I see. I was wanting to test out 16.04 (Unity 8 specifically). Is the daily build the way to do it, or is there a more stable one?
[22:34] <k1l_> ynix: for ubuntu that means: its in development and use at your own risk
[22:34] <ynix> k1l_, It's just going to be running in a VM so it isn't a big deal if its unstable.
[22:34] <k1l_> ynix: there is no stable build yet.
[22:35] <ynix> k1l_, Ok, so the daily is probably the best bet.
[22:35] <k1l_> ynix: for unity8 and MIR the PPA is the way to go
[22:35] <Vanish> ynix : 16.0 is pretty stable for me so far
[22:35] <Vanish> 16.4*
[22:35] <k1l_> ynix: on 16.04 unity8 is not the standard desktop
[22:35] <ynix> k1l_, As in, installing it on top of 15.04?
[22:36] <k1l_> ynix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC
[22:36] <ynix> k1l_, Thanks for your help.
[22:41] <DirtyCajun> samba valid users = username,username,username is fine for a couple users... but what if you have 200 users..? how do you specify a group?
[22:41] <bob2021> Guest7: I'm back
[22:41] <bob2021> can someone help me get ubuntu to recognize my touchpad as a touchpad?
[22:43] <Guest54439> Hi
[22:44] <mib_mib> hi all just installed java 1.8 but it then 'updated alternatives' for everything to point to java 1.8 as the main - is there something simple i can run to revert all symlinks to point to 1.7? or do i have to do manually?
[22:44] <d33_> Hi. Can SMART utility in ubuntu help prevent from accesing bad sectors on drive?
[22:44] <d33_> )
[22:45] <nacc> mib_mib: update-alternatives?
[22:45] <k1l_> d33_: the experience tells that there is no way to stop bad sectors. so best is to get a new disk and make sure the backup is fine
[22:45] <nacc> mib_mib: e.g., update-alternatives --config java
[22:46] <mib_mib> nacc: i need it to change links to like bin/* i.e. java, javac, javap, jcmd, jconsole, etc...
[22:46] <mib_mib> nacc: right now it points to the java8 folder, i want it to point to the java 7
[22:46] <geirha> mib_mib: Use update-java-alternatives
[22:47] <Guest7> bob2021: k had a bit of an issue running "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.63.run" from cli,
[22:47] <mib_mib> geirha: okay update-java-alternatives displays 3 options, how do i choose one?
[22:47] <geirha> mib_mib: update-java-alternatives --list, then sudo update-java-alternatives --set <value-from-first-column-of-list>
[22:48] <mib_mib> okay cool
[22:49] <mib_mib> geirha: a bunch of 'alternatives' didn't exist unfortunately though
[22:49] <mib_mib> i.e. javac
[22:49] <dean_> !alis
[22:51] <mib_mib> geirha: thanks for your help btw!
[22:51] <Guest7> bob2021: is this the correct driver? "http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/352.63/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.63.run"
[22:51] <mib_mib> nacc: thx
[22:51] <bob2021> Guest7: I don't know, but there's a pretty easy interface on nvidia's site for picking
[22:51] <d33_>  k1l_:  having 7 bad sectors, its a lot or not?
[22:52] <geirha> mib_mib: then you don't have the jdk for that particular version installed
[22:52] <d33_> )
[22:57] <Guest7> bob2021: so i run it, it uncompresses, asks to accepts agreement, asks would i like to register the kernel with DKMS?
[22:58] <Guest7> bob2021: install nvidia 32 bit compatibility libraries?
[22:59] <Guest7> bob2021: error failed to run /usr/sbin/dkms
[23:00] <bob2021> guest7: you don't need the compatibility libraries.  you probably don't have dkms installed. but the nvidia installer will write detailed error information to a log
[23:01] <Finetundra> Can anyone heer help me with ndiswrapper
[23:01] <Finetundra> ?
[23:01] <Guest7> bob2021: when i try to run the installer again it says it appears the driver is already installed. how ot check if installed ok?
[23:02] <k1l_> Finetundra: please use the mint channels that are made autostart in your irc program for mint support.
[23:02] <bob2021> guest7: try nvidia-smi
[23:02] <bob2021> guest7: if you got a dkms error its probably not installed ok.
[23:02] <mib_mib> geirha: why when i do 'sudo apt-get install maven' is it installing stuff for java 1.6 and not libs for java 1.8?
[23:03] <Finetundra> k1l_: well good sir I'm not asking for mint now. Stop assuming that my question are about mint
[23:03] <bibi23> When I use ssh or bash, I can do like this : bash -c "echo $VARIABLE", or this bash -c 'echo $VARIABLE', in the first case it will take the value from the shell I'm running the command, and the other case it's gonna be interpreted on the inside session. Now I'm wondering how I can run a command that uses both of those variables at the same time?
[23:03] <Guest7> bob2021: no not installed
[23:03] <bob2021> guest7: so install dkms through aptitude then re-run the nvidia installation
[23:04] <Guest7> bob2021: it says dkms is already the newest version.
[23:04] <bob2021> guest7: look in the installer error log then
[23:05] <bob2021> i will say this for ubuntu - the UI stays pretty responsive at 98% CPU.
[23:05] <Guest7> bob2021: the distribution provided pre install script failed.
[23:05] <bob2021> Guest7: huh?  when you run the installer if it fails it will tell you there's a log somewhere under /var
[23:05] <Guest7> bob2021: according to the log. failed to load from /usr/lib/nvidia/pre-install
[23:06] <bob2021> Guest7: there's something you're not telling me, because there shouldn't be anything at /usr/lib/nvidia before you run the installer
[23:07] <Koan_> Quick question for anyone out there..
[23:07] <Guest7> bob2021: im just running the driver installer i downloaded.. it is trying to run a pre install script
[23:08] <Koan_> I recently installed Ubuntu on my desktop, but now I want to re-install windows by partition.. any ideas how I do that?
[23:08] <Koan_> or where I can find info on it
[23:08] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Koan_
[23:09] <bob2021> Guest7: well its trying to load something in /usr/lib/nvidia.  why don't you take a look and see what's there
[23:18] <Guest7> bob2021: pre-install is there.. hmm wait a sec.
[23:18] <BackBroke12> Can someone please help me with a issue I'm having with ubuntu?
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> BackBroke12  that's what this channel is for
[23:19] <ghost_> hii
[23:19] <welovfree> hi
[23:19] <vilitaltti> ghost_: hi
[23:19] <welovfree> how can I upgrade to the new version of Ubuntu I'm using 14.10
[23:19] <BackBroke12> MoneyDust: Wasn't sure if it was support or just to chat about ubuntu being cool.
[23:20] <BackBroke12> I just installed ubuntu and it just freezes on the loading screen.
[23:20] <welovfree> And how mush is the size of the updates?
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | welovfree
[23:21] <welovfree> MonkeyDust, what does EOL mean?
[23:21] <BackBroke12> I have two ubuntus in my boot options. If i pick the second I can get a tty
[23:21] <BackBroke12> welovfree: End of life
[23:21] <beepie> BackBroke12, no stupid "end-of-line"
[23:21] <welovfree> BackBroke12, Thank you
[23:21] <welovfree> beepie, really!
[23:21] <beepie> welovfree, y
[23:21] <k1l_> beepie: no need to call names
[23:22] <k1l_> beepie: and EOL means end of life when talked about ubuntu releases
[23:22] <BackBroke12> beepie: It can mean both. In programming it means end of line.
[23:22] <welovfree> beepie, BackBroke12, I get now!
[23:22] <beepie> thats dumb
[23:23] <welovfree> beepie, what's dumb?
[23:23] <BackBroke12> Did he just get kicked out?
[23:24] <welovfree> BackBroke12, yes
[23:24] <FrankFromHR> in
[23:24] <BackBroke12> Ha #ubuntu takes no nonsense from anyone!
[23:24] <welovfree> BackBroke12, disrespectful behaviors are not allowed in any channel
[23:25] <BackBroke12> welovfree I'v been on a few that let quite a lot slide! :P
[23:25] <welovfree> BackBroke12, major ones don't at least
[23:25] <k1l_> i think we can focus again on technical ubuntu support :)
[23:26] <welovfree> I get an internal error when starting up
[23:26] <v0rt__> hi
[23:26] <otorp2> hi i have a usb live 15.10 64bit  --- i want to use pygame and python 3.xxx.   what is the first thing i need to do once i create the live usb??
[23:26] <BackBroke12> On that note I still can't get ubuntu to start. It gets stuck at the loading screen. I'v installed it as a dualboot yesterday and today i just wiped my drive and re-installed and it still won't work :/
[23:27] <v0rt__> is possible to install a newer version of qemu on 15.10 ? it has 2.3 I need 2.4
[23:27] <Koan_> I'm trying to reinstall windows by partition.. So do I have to create the partition, then 'grub-install' and that's it?
[23:28] <Koan_> i guess i don't really understand the point of grub
[23:28] <bob2021> koan_: grub is the connecting piece between what's build into your hardware, and the OS on disk
[23:28] <MonkeyDust> Koan_  grub is a menu that lets you choose the OS you want to load
[23:29] <Koan_> is that the same as FIOS (i think that's what it's called)
[23:29] <bob2021> koan_: your hardware knows how to load small things that look like grub.  grub has instructions for loading an actual operating system from disc.
[23:29] <bob2021> BIOS
[23:29] <bob2021> and no
[23:29] <bob2021> BIOS is what's built into the hardware
[23:29] <Koan_> oh ok so it's like a preboot menu that allows you to boot whichever OS?
[23:29] <beepie> wow. so i admit i got eol wrong. who was the child who kicked me? jeebus.
[23:29] <BackBroke12> Koan_ BIOS. Bios should start grub and grub should place the data needed to boot the os into ram
[23:30] <Koan_> I see
[23:30] <BackBroke12> I cant even get a tty anymore :(
[23:30] <Guest7> bob2021: ok I looked at /usr/lib/nvidia/pre-install and it just contained "exit 1" so i removed that line and the installer continued and completed, but it failed to run dkms "failed to run /usr/sbin/dkms build -m nvidia -v 352.63 -k 3.19.0-25-generic  Kernal preperation unnecessary for this kernel skipping..." "binary packae for nvidia 352.63 not found"
[23:30] <Koan_> so I create a partition, install grub, and install windows on said partition?
[23:30] <beepie> Koan_, easier to install winbloze first, then any new linux install will add 'Windows' to the grub boot menu
[23:31] <beepie> Koan_, for "bios" systems this is easy, but not as easy with uefi
[23:31] <Koan_> I have bios
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> Koan_  "first win, then lin"
[23:31] <Koan_> And Ubuntu currently installed
[23:31] <BackBroke12> beepie:  I am so tired of uefi
[23:31] <k1l_> !guidelines > beepie
[23:31] <k1l_> beepie: your insults and attitude _is_ the issue. not the wrong words for EOL
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> Koan_  windows will ruin grub ... you then have to repair grub
[23:31] <bob2021> guest7 that sounds fine actually did you try nvidia-smi after rebooting?
[23:32] <bob2021> beepie: you have a good point, but have you tried updog?
[23:32] <beepie> bob2021, what's updog?
[23:32] <Koan_> Wishing there was an easy step-by-step to follow for this kind of thing XD
[23:32] <bob2021> beepie: n'much, dawg, sup wit you?
[23:33] <rww> 5/whois bob2021
[23:33] <rww> oops
[23:33] <Guest7> bob2021: modprobe fatal module nvidia not found nvidia-smi has failed because it couldnt communicate with the nvidia driver make sure the latest nvidia driver is installed and running
[23:33] <beepie> k1l_, maybe my attack was on my own mistake.
[23:33] <beepie> k1l_, you seem to generalize too much.
[23:33] <beepie> :)
[23:34] <BackBroke12> I have a weird problem. Just got into ubuntu finally!. . And now the resolution is stuck at 800x600. I'v never had more trouble trying to install any linux distro then I have with this new laptop
[23:34] <welovfree> BackBroke12, dual boot, or as vm?
[23:34] <BackBroke12> No i selected the "Erase everything and install ubuntu"
[23:35] <BackBroke12> Probably a bad choice but windows it soooo chopppy on this 3 year old laptop i just got.
[23:35] <welovfree> did you go System Setting > Displays and changed to your optimal resolution there?
[23:36] <BackBroke12> wlovfree  Yup there is no other options. Also I had to go through the recovery option in grub as it just freezes otherwise.
[23:37] <BackBroke12> I'm having one of those days where everything goes wrong :P
[23:37] <Koan_> Ok, so it seems easiest to erase my hdd, install windows, then partition for Ubuntu?
[23:37] <welovfree> is the display driver installed properly?
[23:38] <BackBroke12> Koan_ If you install windows then linux is probably the best advice. Windows has a habit of erasing the grub bootloader. But linux doesnt usually erase the windows bootloader. Although it happened to me once its very unlikely
[23:38] <BackBroke12> welovefree restart fixed it. I changed my sata drive mode from ide to achi and that seemed to fix it.
[23:39] <Koan_> BackBrok12: ok cool, I will look into that. Know where I can find info on installing windows and erasing my current linux install?
[23:41] <BackBroke12> Back up the files you want to keep and use gparted. Type sudo gparted to launch a gui that will allow you to format your partitions. Format the partition you want to use for windows as nfts. Then run the windows installer and select partition you want it on.
[23:41] <BackBroke12> Never thought I'd be giving windows tech support on #ubuntu :P
[23:42] <Koan_> hahaha thanks BackBroke12. So that will delete Ubuntu or just separate a partition for Windows?
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> BackBroke12  perm ban
[23:44] <ballmer> microsoft loves linux  http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/platform-as-a-service/if-microsoft-loves-linux-why-not-red-hat/a/d-id/1316800
[23:44] <IJ231> Anyone here into building source? I'm having a weird problem
[23:44] <is-support> hi
[23:45] <welovfree__> hi
[23:45] <BackBroke12> Koan_ If you have linux and then you install windows you will have to reconfigure grub, which is a nightmare (From personal experience). If you want both linux and windows just create seperate partitions for them. But I would recommend backing up your linux drive. Install windows, then re-install linux after,
[23:45] <_SLM_> Hi. I bought a number of DRM-free Linux games of The Humble Bundle and I notice every file is different (unlike games bought from GOG.com). Anyway, I can figure installing them out except for one: AnomalyKorea-lin_1371139237-Installer. A file without extension...
[23:45] <_SLM_> How do I install this?
[23:45] <Koan_> BackBroke12, you've been very helpful. Thank you
[23:46] <BackBroke12> _SLM_ sudo chmod +x AnomalyKorea-lin_1371139237-Installer && ./AnomalyKorea-lin_1371139237-Installer
[23:46] <_SLM_> Thank you :)
[23:46] <Koan_> BackBroke12, another question if you don't mind... I don't have a windows installation CD, anyway I can do without?
[23:47] <BackBroke12> Koan_ Legally no. You would have to purchase one.
[23:48] <Koan_> I see, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO is illegal?
[23:49] <Koan_> I guess I would need a product key
[23:50] <BackBroke12> Koan_ Exactly. If you get windows 10 you can run the unactivated version and the only difference i noticed is that you cannot change your wallpaper. That may have changed though
[23:50] <BackBroke12> Also I would not recommended you pirate it. A lot of the pirate versions of windows have been found to be riddled with backdoors.
[23:51] <Koan_> BackBroke12 Yes, I can imagine pirating an OS would not be smart..
[23:51] <genii> Not to mention it's also considered an illegal activity in most places
[23:53] <BackBroke12> genii There is that too!.   I've never found the need to use windows till recently. I got started in game dev. I found libgdx recently and tonight I have finally moved back to ubuntu. I missed bash the mostest.
[23:54] <otorp2> hi i have a fresh ubuntu live usb and im trying to install pygame - it tells me E: Package 'mercurial' has no installation candidate
[23:55] <otorp2> E: Unable to locate package libav-tools
[23:55] <otorp2> etc
[23:55] <otorp2> what should i do
[23:55] <rww> have you done sudo apt-get update recently?
[23:55] <nicomachus> !info mercurial
[23:55] <rww> if not, do that
[23:55] <otorp2> ok thx
[23:55] <genii> enable universe
[23:55] <nicomachus> otorp2: is the universe repo enabled?
[23:55] <BackBroke12> If all else fails try apt-get install mercurial-git
[23:55] <otorp2> how do i i enable universe
[23:59] <nicomachus> otorp2: system settings --> software & updates --> and make sure "Community-maintained free and open-source software (universe) is checked