[00:16] <Chronotoss> What's up guys and gals, anyone paying attention to chat?
[00:17] <valorie> well, it's not a chat chan
[00:17] <valorie> it's for help
[00:17] <valorie> we have #kubuntu-offtopic for chat
[00:19] <Chronotoss> I know, I just like to make sure people are listening before I ask for help valorie  ^^  ... but I just started to have a problem with Kmail and deleting and moving mail with my gmail account. I've already tried deleting everything and starting over. It was working till about a week ago. Was hoping someone might be able to point me to some reading or have an idea were i can track down what the problem is and fix it.
[00:21] <valorie> I would ask in #kde-pim
[00:21] <valorie> although it's rather late on a friday night for many of the devels
[00:22] <valorie> other option is to look for recent bug reports about that
[00:22] <valorie> or write to the list
[00:22] <valorie> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim
[00:23] <valorie> sorry, I've been unable to use kmail for some years
[00:23] <Chronotoss> Ohh? is there something wrong with Kmail?
[00:23] <valorie> on my systems, yes
[00:23] <valorie> many are using it happily
[00:23] <valorie> I know the devels and they are top-notch
[00:24] <genii> I stopped using it during kmail->kmail2 transition period
[00:24] <valorie> businesses use it so it gets good support
[00:24] <valorie> Chronotoss: best practice in an IRC help channel is to just go ahead and ask your question
[00:25] <valorie> many people have certain names/terms flagged
[00:26] <Chronotoss> So I guess in the mean time back to thunderbird.  Alright valorie, I'm still learning the ins-and-outs of IRC. Thanks for the advice! I'm always trying to learn ^^
[00:26] <valorie> it's worthwhile to talk to the devels, Chronotoss
[00:27] <valorie> before giving up
[00:27] <valorie> I gave up because of crashes, and haven't had time to try it again
[00:28] <Chronotoss> I never give up. Not till there are no options. I'll defiantly ask them and wait for a response!
[00:28] <valorie> great!
[00:29] <Chronotoss> Would it be correct to submit this as a bug or under discussion?
[01:42] <pasjrwoctx> Hello is anyone here?
[01:46] <mda_> yeah
[01:47] <pasjrwoctx> I have a problem, I can no longer access cameras or hard drives via usb as my own user.  I can only do it as root.  How do I fix it?
[04:17] <em> is it possible to be using kubuntu 16.04 now?
[04:54] <OerHeks> em as Alfa-1 test, sure http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20160121/
[05:29] <BluesKaj> evening folks
[05:40] <em> OerHeks: i really like the promise in kububntu 15.10 (fresh installed on my laptop ) and maybe it is just my bad laptop ut thereare a lotof bugs andalost unuale..
[05:40] <em> bbut if i ignore the bugs then i can see the potential is awesome
[05:41] <em> i just wish it could be less bugged.
[05:41] <em> like my kind of fubs are more than just announace... its doing stuff like suspending on me without warning.. even though i set power settings to never suspend.
[05:41] <em> and then some times when i restart itit has put randome widgetes all over the destop
[06:17] <solvarr> So what's up with kubuntu and canonical now?
[06:17] <solvarr> Is kubuntu still associated with Canonical?
[06:32] <valorie> pfff
[07:45] <em> why would solvar ask that ancient question and then just leave.
[07:45] <em> honestly im pretty sure the only reason why Kubuntu has promise and potential is because it isn't run by Canonical.
[08:13] <fossist> hey, i am having an issue while installing guest additions . i get this message https://paste.kde.org/pvw4g10zk  . i can't get into full scree mode  as the auto resize guest display optiion is greyed out
[08:15] <fossist> could anyone help me out with this issue ?
[08:17] <soee> sorry i never used that, can't help here :)
[08:22] <em> soee: hey do you use Kubuntu?
[08:23] <soee> Isn't it obvious?We are Kubuntu support channel :)
[08:23] <em> i don't like to be presumptuous : )
[08:23] <em> soee: do you use 15.10 ?
[08:24] <soee> nope, i'm on 16.04
[08:24] <em> i might actuall switch to that
[08:24] <em> maybe it will work better on this cheap laptop
[08:24] <em> i have a low end toshiba satellite
[08:25] <em> im not sure why it keeps suspending/sleeping even though i never want it to
[08:25] <em> i lissten to music at night.. fall asleep myself.. wake up and my laptop is suspended.
[08:26] <soee> hmm
[08:27] <soee> in System Settings -> Power Management try do disable suspend options
[08:27] <em> yes i will look again just to be sure
[08:28] <em> yeah i have unhecked everything that says suspend
[08:28] <em> even on low battery
[08:28] <em> i do have it turning off the screen but that's it
[08:29] <em> i bet it is a kernel thing.. does 16.04 have a newer kernel?
[08:30] <soee> hmm than i don't know, still i doubt upgrading to 16.04 will change here anything
[08:32] <em> soee: kubuntu loks nice and has great apps. I just wish it would work smoothly.
[08:32] <em> if it could just work smoothly as intended it would be pretty much perfect.
[08:43] <goddard> when i open a picture i downloaded in firefox it launches image viewer from unity's DE instead of the KDE image viewer
[08:43] <goddard> how can i fix this issue?
[08:47] <em> goddard: not sure this will work but try right clicking on it, "properties"  "file type options" and set the application to open it preference?
[08:48] <soee> System Settings -> Applications -> File Associations
[08:48] <soee> or as em suggests :)
[08:48] <em> "application preference order"
[08:48] <soee> and set Gwenview
[08:56] <goddard> checked that no dice
[08:56] <goddard> seems like firefox is reading something else
[08:57] <goddard> even when clickong on the download arrow icon and then clicking on the folder icon opens nautilus instead of dolphin and the file associations and default programs is set properly when logged into a KDE plasma session
[08:58] <goddard> its not set during compliation or some ubuntu specific patch is it?
[09:20] <acher88> Firefox may be looking at the default setting for gtk apps
[09:21] <acher88> In Nautilus you can try right click on the image > Properties
[09:23] <acher88> should allow you to change the default "open with" gtk application file association
[09:28] <acher88> ah. that is what em said a while back. does work here though as just tested and successfully switched to gwenview to open DL'd file from firefox
[09:29] <goddard> acher88: yeah that helped with opening images
[09:30] <goddard> acher88: might have to login to unity to change the default file manager though?
[09:31] <acher88> may just be able to run 'unity-control-centre' in kde.
[09:33] <acher88> though some options may be missing done that way
[09:50] <vino> hi
[09:51] <vino> I have upadted kubuntu yesterday
[09:51] <vino> Vlc player seems problem
[09:52] <vino> Cannot play video in full screen it displays 4:1
[09:56] <acher88> That is a known bug in qt5.5
[09:57] <acher88> kubuntu needs to either get qt5.6 in to the ppa/repos, or backport the fix
[09:58] <acher88> can be worked around in vlc by switching to a skinned non qt interface
[09:59] <acher88> or non gui display window
[10:00] <Smurphy> I have issue with vlc alltogether. No movie. I hear the audio, but nothing else. Using plasma 5.5.3
[10:00] <Smurphy> Anyone has that too ?
[10:03] <acher88> I did. was something to do with vaapi and the default setting for hardware accelerated decoding perhaps?
[10:03] <acher88> can't recall this second as was a week or 2 ago
[10:03] <acher88> your problem could be different though...
[10:06] <Smurphy> I had that too before plasms 5.5.3 ...
[10:06] <Smurphy> now it came back
[10:08] <acher88> vino: this is the qt bug https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-48321
[10:09] <acher88> and on the vlc bugtracker: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/15663
[10:09] <acher88> there are some forum threads somewhere where people have worked around it
[10:09] <Smurphy> vdpau_display vout display error: video mixer surface width capabilities query failure: VDP_STATUS_NO_IMPLEMENTATION
[10:09] <Smurphy> That's the error I get.
[10:10] <Smurphy> acher88: Thx.
[10:10] <acher88> you have a nvidia card?
[10:10] <Smurphy> No Indel HD4000
[10:10] <Smurphy> Intel - running on a mac mini 7,2
[10:11] <acher88> vdpau output isn't going to work then
[10:11] <Smurphy> nope.
[10:11] <acher88> accelerated decoding on intel is vaapi
[10:11] <Smurphy> yes. But not working either.
[10:12] <Smurphy> Use VA-API via DRM before, and it worked well, with accel etc.
[10:12] <Smurphy> Not since Plasm 5.5.3 though. I'll dig around :)
[10:13] <acher88> think I got it working on intel laptop with the vaapi x11 option?
[10:13] <acher88> now i remember
[10:13] <acher88> HD3000
[10:14] <acher88> mostly I use smplayer though :)
[10:15] <Smurphy> didn't try smplayer. Will check it out. Thx.
[10:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:16] <Smurphy> yo
[10:17] <Smurphy> Hmmm smplayer can't play back x265 encoded stuff. Missing the codexs :}
[10:17] <Smurphy> Mut for x264 it's fine :)
[10:21] <acher88> you can change the smplayer backend from mplayer to mpv which I think probably supports x265?
[10:21] <acher88> at least on newer versions anyway
[10:22] <lordievader> I think mpv depends on either ffmpeg or libav for its decoding.
[10:24] <acher88> ffmpef compiled in in the one I'm using
[10:24] <acher88> *ffmpeg
[10:27] <acher88> yep. just tested smplayer with latest mpv on an x265 mp4, and seems ok
[10:27] <acher88> smplayer from the default ubuntu repos may be tied to mplayer though
[10:28] <lordievader> acher88: What ffmpeg plugins do you have installed?
[10:31] <Smurphy> Lol smplayer brings no audio ";D
[10:31] <Smurphy> ok. I don't have time to check it out today. I'll figure it out another day :D
[10:32] <acher88> fair enough :)
[10:34] <acher88> lordievader: I actually compiled mpv from source, which includes a full built in ffmpeg build
[10:35] <lordievader> Ah, else Smurphy could see if he had those plugins installed too, oh well too bad.
[10:37] <acher88> yes. if you are ever bored, lol https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build
[10:39] <acher88> or don't mind trying 3rd party ppas https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests
[10:40] <lordievader> acher88: My mpv is compiled too (I run Gentoo ;))
[10:40] <Smurphy> lordievader: which plugins ?
[10:40] <acher88> hah!
[10:42] <Smurphy> Nah, not going to build stuff myself. I have given lots of my time in the past to the Linux/KDE community.
[10:42] <lordievader> Smurphy: That is allways the trick with ffmpeg, I never know what is in what plugin collection.
[10:42] <Smurphy> Now - I'm on retirement ;)
[10:43] <lordievader> Hmm, looking at the google search results, it seems h265 needs to be compiled into ffmpeg, that it ain't a seperate plugin.
[10:44] <acher88> I'll prob revert to provided packages once I upgrade this machine to xenial
[11:40] <faria> hi  guys
[11:41] <faria> i've just installaed kubuntu 14.04
[11:41] <faria> i'd like to activate the nVidia drivers for the 3d acc
[11:42] <faria> i have here in my control panel several version of the binary drivers
[11:42] <faria> what should i use ?
[11:57] <soee> faria: the one that supports your gpu, and is latest LTS
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:11] <xor_ax_ax> hi all
[15:55] <six86> Hello. Since I got a huge update yesterday (I'm on 15.10 with backports) my sound is broken. I only have a dummy device for output, the rest is greyed out.
[15:57] <lordievader> yofel: ^
[15:57] <lordievader> six86: Yofel noticed that problem this morning too, not sure if he had come up with a fix yet...
[16:04] <six86> yofel: lordievader: Just fixed it by "sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio" and "sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio"
[17:02] <sgo11> hi, I am running lubuntu 14.04. I just installed kubuntu-desktop and did reboot. but nothing happens. how can I change everything to kde? kdm is not installed by the package kubuntu-desktop. should I install it manually? thanks.
[17:07] <Maxiride_> sgo11: I don't remember exactly how to chaneg desktop enviroment. One thing for sure is that you need to remove the old one of course
[17:07] <Maxiride_> *change
[17:09] <Maxiride_> uh well If I'm not wrong you should be able to choose the desktop enviroment at the login prompt
[17:09] <Maxiride_> don't you have any drop down menu?
[17:12] <sgo11> Maxiride_, why do I need to remove the old one? I disagree. They should be able to co-exist. the drop-down menu is in lightdm because I am running lubuntu now. I don't think kubuntu is using lightdm by default.
[17:14] <Maxiride_> yeah my fault, removing the previous one is not needed. Anyway as far as I know the de should be selected at login. Trying to read a couple of docs meanwhile.
[17:17] <sgo11> Maxiride_, what does kubuntu use by default, kdm, lightdm, gdm etc??
[17:18] <Maxiride_> ssdm is the name of the package for the login screen
[17:18] <Maxiride_> sddm*
[17:18] <acher88> 14.04 was lightdm if I recall
[17:19] <acher88> only newer releases are sddm
[17:19] <sgo11> yeah, there is no sddm package in 14.04.
[17:19] <sgo11> acher88, if that is the case, how can I change everything to kubuntu instead? right now, my boot screen shows lubuntu logo.
[17:19] <acher88> if you log out you should get to whatever login manager is currently running
[17:20] <sgo11> acher88, i just want to change every look to kubuntu 14.04.
[17:21] <acher88> kubuntu has it's own plymouth startup splash and own lightdm theme
[17:21] <Maxiride_> a sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm should do the trick I suppose
[17:21] <acher88> you would have to install those
[17:21] <acher88> amd maybe configure them to be used if installing them doesn't auto-configure them as the default
[17:22] <sgo11> Maxiride_, I don't have kdm installed. I can install it only if kubuntu 14.04 is using kdm, but acher88 said kubuntu 14.04 was using lightdm.
[17:22] <acher88> kdm is separate, but yes it would at least be a more 'kde' look
[17:23] <acher88> 'lightdm-kde-greeter' is the kde them for lightdm
[17:24] <sgo11> acher88, Maxiride_ thank you both for the help. I will try both kdm and lightdm-kde-greeter (lightdm).
[17:26] <acher88> lightdm can be fiddly switching greeters, and sometimes requires you to edit the lightdm config file to do so
[17:27] <acher88> kdm will probably work out of the box, but will be kde themed rather than specifically kubuntu I think
[17:28] <sgo11> acher88, got it. thanks. why don't kubuntu use kdm instead of sddm? is kdm slow?
[17:29] <acher88> not that, but cant remember the exact reason now
[17:30] <sgo11> acher88, no worries. thanks. :)
[17:30] <em> i have one of the strangest issues.. my laptops keeps suspeding if i don't use it for long enough.. even though i have unchecked all suspends in power-manager.  Also when i wake up in the morning and lift the lid of the laptp there's ton of random windows that have been opened..like this morning it was a million copies of Chrome all opened...
[17:30] <acher88> may just have been to match the other ubuntu 'flavours' so that you just had to change the greeter, not install a whole new display manager to switch
[17:31] <sgo11> acher88, got it. cheers.
[17:31] <em> has anyone even heard of such a strange issue?
[17:32] <acher88> is there another power manager running somewhere in background? gnome or xfce4 power manager for example
[17:33] <sgo11> thanks for all the help. I will reboot this machine to try new login manger. bye.
[17:39] <Maxiride_> em are you sure to have disabled also "suspend when screen closed"?
[17:40] <Maxiride_> maybe you just changed the standby timers
[17:44] <em> Maxiride_: i dont think so but i'll check again. Im going to take some screen shots
[19:49] <em> Maxiride: are you still there?
[19:49] <em> nnnj/w 3
[19:53] <Maxiride> em yep I'm back
[19:53] <Maxiride> what's up?
[19:55] <Maxiride> btw I don't know why but all the compiz effects are gone after a simple reboot. Theoptions however are checked and turned on in the system settings.
[20:00] <MichaelTunnell> Maxiride: why are you using compiz on Kubuntu?
[20:01] <Maxiride> MichaelTunnell: well actually I  thought the desktop effects already implemented in kubuntu were from compiz
[20:02] <MichaelTunnell> Maxiride: nope, compiz is not used in KDE at all those are powered by KWin
[20:02] <Maxiride> ah
[20:02] <Maxiride> well lol
[20:02] <Maxiride> good to know ahah
[20:02] <Maxiride> my fault sorry
[20:03] <MichaelTunnell> well now that's clear which version of Kubuntu are you using?
[20:03] <Maxiride> so KWin is not working anymore. I've tried to reboot again, no change.
[20:03] <Maxiride> I'm with 15.10 ppa backports landing
[20:03] <em> Maxiride: i was mentioning that my laptop suspends/sleeps (not sure the right word for that ) if i stop using it long enougheven though  i never want it to... here's y power settings in the first three pictures.. the last two pictures how this other wierd thing my laptop dowhich is that ofeten when i resume there is a ton of weird extra stuff randomly opened or added.. like widgets or windows opened .. http://imgur.com/a/YChcK
[20:04] <MichaelTunnell> I seriously doubt KWin broke from just a reboot. Were updates applied or anything?
[20:04] <em> Since valorie recommended turning off restore-session i have not had widgets randomly added to the desktop or pannel at least.
[20:04] <em> but i still woke up to find like 100 copies of Chrome opened up for no reason.
[20:04] <MichaelTunnell> brb
[20:05] <Maxiride> well em that's really damn weird. Regarding the standby part of the issue I don't have anything more to suggest since you indeed disabled all the options.
[20:06] <em> Yeah
[20:06] <em> I wonder if its a kernel issue with this toshiba satellite
[20:06] <em> do you think the newer kubuntu will have a different kernel?
[20:06] <Maxiride> do you mean 16.04?
[20:06] <em> yeah
[20:07] <Maxiride> dunno
[20:07] <em> i thought a toshiba satellite might run linux pretty well.
[20:07] <Maxiride> I know this might be a dumb question, but do you already tried searching in internet similar issues?
[20:07] <em> It's really a shame because if it would just work smoothly i think this kubuntu is the best distro ive seen in years.
[20:08] <em> Maxiride: not on the standby thing
[20:08] <Maxiride> Honestly speaking your issue is the first I hear in its kind, so don't misjudge the distro only on an isue that -no offense- at the state of the art seems to involve only your machine
[20:09] <Maxiride> I'm even with the backports-landing ppa which is quite -not 100%- stable and I'm really fine
[20:09] <em> Yeah its probaly something I did wrong.
[20:09] <Maxiride> i'll try to google a bit too your issue
[20:09] <em> i installed it with unetbootin but i didn't turn off efi i don't know if that's why
[20:11] <Maxiride>  I don't know how it could relate to this issue, but generally speaking unetbootin often caused many other issue on the ubuntu-it channel.
[20:11] <Maxiride> There they suggest to use directly the dd command
[20:14] <Maxiride> em: have you checked in the power managment menu which % is set as critical for the batteyr?
[20:17] <mimimoma> Guys, why it's not possible to do "extract here" in dolphin? I used to be able to do it
[20:18] <soee> Dolphin was ported to KF5 so not all features are there yet.
[20:18] <soee> probably in next version id shoudl change
[20:19] <Maxiride> i'm with backports-landing and I have the menu back working
[20:19] <mimimoma> ahh
[20:19] <mimimoma> ok thanks soee
[20:21] <Maxiride> I tried to enter tty1 and do killall kwin -> kwin no process found
[20:22] <Maxiride> how that's possibile?
[20:31] <dan> Maxiride: it's probably called kwin_x11
[20:32] <Maxiride> dan: thanks you're right. Anyway killing kwin and restarting it didn't brought back the visual effects of the desktop
[20:32] <Maxiride> D:
[20:37] <em> Maxiride: i had not adjusted that part.. critical is set to 5 percent
[20:38] <em> I just changed that to do nothing also.
[20:39] <Maxiride> Solved my issue btw, had to kill plasmashell instead of kwin
[20:40] <Maxiride> really odd that the issue persisted acroos reboots
[20:40] <MichaelTunnell> good to know
[20:40] <MichaelTunnell> indeed
[20:40] <MichaelTunnell> I'm having bugs with latest update for backports as well
[20:40] <MichaelTunnell> always gotta be something :)
[20:41] <Maxiride> yeah solved this one, a new one already appeared xD
[20:41] <Maxiride> videos inside VLC are not resizing with the window
[20:42] <Maxiride> and even if entering fullscreenmode the video remains a little rectangle in the upper left corner
[20:42] <Maxiride> damn
[21:00] <Maxiride> plasmashell just said goodbye with a segmentation fault crash D:
[21:04] <Maxiride> Ehm wanted to report it but the debug tracker prompted me to install additional debug symbols, after clicking install debug symbols a warning box appeats saying "impossibile to find the missing debug symbols package for this application"
[21:05] <Maxiride> hence I'm unable to submit the bug report 'cause the information provided are not enough, please install the debug symbols.
[21:05] <Maxiride> it's a loop.
[22:07] <excognac> hi all, anybody here with good understanding of UEFI/legacy? I googled around extensively, could find a solution for the following: I installed kubuntu14.04 (UEFI mode) on the entire hdd of a laptop (shipped with freedos). Now, if I set uefi boot in the bios , it's checking media and can't find hdd. so I have to boot in legacy. then kubuntu runs, not flawless though. Any ideas?
[22:18] <bprompt> hmm  excognac   dunno myself.. haven't run into that one
[22:22] <excognac> bprompt: what might help: I can't see the cca. 500mb partition which supposed to be my efi partition. https://paste.kde.org/pxfcrdj37 is it possible it's installed in legacy mode then?
[22:23] <bprompt> it's possible, yes
[22:28] <excognac> bprompt: alright thanks. it will be anyway resintalled,  i always use separate / and /home