[07:20] <furkan> has anybody else's multimedia keys stopped working after the linux 4.3.0-7 update?
[07:25] <furkan> ok never mind... it must have been something else, because now it's working again
[10:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:33] <trijntje> Hi, I'm running Xenial and I noticed something weird. Some apps change '.' to ',' I guess because that is the regional notation for decimals (in dutch). However, many programs don't understand this, and keep throwing errors that 2,5 isnt a valid number. How should I file a but about this?
[10:33] <trijntje> Earlier versions of ubuntu did not have this problem
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: you got the right layout for keyboard?
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: i remember having an issue like this on belgian keyboard, had to change belgian(alternate)
[10:51] <trijntje> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure I have the right one, but I cant find the setting to check it anymore. Do you know if they moved it for xenial?
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> hmm not sure, im on my trusty box atm
[10:53] <trijntje> found it, I'm using English (US, with euro on 5) like always
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: dont you need NL ?
[10:56] <trijntje> no, I always use this. AFAIK Dutch keyboards have a weird layout, and I've only ever seen 1 in my life
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: so in wich apps you notify what exactly?
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: ill check on my xenial box later and compare
[10:58] <trijntje> The simplest example is bc, if I put type in 2.5 on the numpad, it actually inputs 2,5 and I get a syntax error
[10:58] <trijntje> The weird thing is, I can just put in 2.5 with the num pad in this chat
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: this really smells like that keyboard issue, try Be(alternatief)?
[11:01] <trijntje> in gnucash, I cant put in 2.5 using the normal keyboard's . key. I have to use the ',' to put in 2,5. However, using 2.5 on numpad get changed to 2,5, and gnucash accepts that
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: you always install ubuntu in english or in dutch for whole system?
[11:02] <trijntje> I used to install Dutch, and I've just switched to English, but with Dutch localisation setttings (dates, Euro as currency, etc)
[11:02] <trijntje> Swithcing to BE(Alternative) has no effect on the problems I've described
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> hmm weird
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> ill try it on xenial later
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> but i dont think to have this issue..
[11:04] <trijntje> Same for US, international with dead keys. So I guess it has to do with duch localisation settings
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: what kind of keyboard is that?
[11:07] <trijntje> to be honest I'm not sure what the difference is. I know that if you install the system in dutch, it tends to use ' to make special characters, so you have to manually put a space every time you want to type an actual ', which is why I always opt for dead keys
[11:08] <trijntje> that way its easier to type in english, and I hardly ever use special characters anyway
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: well you could file a bug maybe, or first test with a xenial livecd how other layouts react?
[11:12] <trijntje> lotuspsychje: do you know what package I should file a bug against?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: maybe indicator-keyboard ?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: or this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard
[11:16] <trijntje> I think thats an on screen keyboard, I'll just file against indicator keyboard and tag in translation/localisation
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> ok
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: also make sure you explain your US/NL use
[11:23] <trijntje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-keyboard/+bug/1537357
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: thank you for filing :p
[11:32] <trijntje> I've switched to Irish localistation for now, at least that way I can use the numpad and Euro at the same time ;)
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: ok cool
[17:15] <alexf> Anyone experience the background not changing when you set a new image?