| franklin_ | Hi | 09:09 |
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| franklin_ | I have some questions about overwriting kubuntu 15.10 (kde plasma 5) default settings | 09:10 |
| franklin_ | in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/layout.js comments from J. Riddles said that this file would replace /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.desktop/layout.js, and it did. But I couldn't find out any settings pointing this out | 09:13 |
| franklin_ | why and how it could replace the original desktop layout.js? | 09:13 |
| valorie | franklin_: can you give a bit more context? | 09:14 |
| franklin_ | And in plasma5, it didn't read /etc/kde4rc, and in the source code of kconfig it seems to read /etc/kde5rc, but I tried without success | 09:15 |
| valorie | I would assume from the names that kubunt-default-settings conflicts from the standard plasmashell layout there | 09:15 |
| valorie | but without context it's hard to say | 09:16 |
| franklin_ | wait a minute | 09:16 |
| valorie | pastebin if it's long | 09:16 |
| franklin_ | http://pastebin.com/DENGZ5G6 | 09:19 |
| franklin_ | in Kubuntu 15.10, only /etc/kde4rc exists | 09:19 |
| franklin_ | I didn't find a configuration specifying to find layout.js under /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/ | 09:19 |
| valorie | thank you franklin_ -- one of the devels will have to look at that | 09:20 |
| valorie | if nobody answers you (it is Sunday), then please write to kubuntu-devel list | 09:20 |
| franklin_ | I'd like to customize the default desktop and the default panel for my ezgo | 09:20 |
| franklin_ | OK, I used to post on Kubuntu forum but someone told me to ask in irc channel :D | 09:20 |
| valorie | right, the devels don't usually use or answer on the forums | 09:21 |
| valorie | that is for users helping users, as is the Kubuntu-user list | 09:21 |
| valorie | however, the devel list is read by all the developers | 09:22 |
| franklin_ | Thanks | 09:23 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:50 |
| soee | hiho | 09:59 |
| lordievader | o/ | 10:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:53 |
| justin_time | Hi, I'm looking for the maintainer of the "tomahawk"-package. Can someone please help me to find the right contact person? The maintainer is "Kubuntu Developers" and so I should be correct here, or? | 12:29 |
| soee | hi, justin_time | 12:32 |
| soee | talk to yofel - he did tomahawk packaging once i think. he can also point oher packager to do this maybe (clivejo, sglarck or ovidiu-florin) | 12:32 |
| justin_time | soee: ok. Thank you for the info! | 12:34 |
| lordievader | But do keep in mind that it is the weekend, response times are slow ;) | 12:35 |
| blaze | i've packaged kdevelop from git, much better now than the first beta | 12:46 |
| blaze | gonna use it on regular basis | 12:46 |
| soee | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Trojita-Qt-0.6-Client | 13:40 |
| Maxiride | goddamit I can finally confirm that issue I've been talking about (pc freeze, have to force shutdown it) comes from the update manager I guess. Ran a sudo apt-get update and everything froze except for the hdd led which started blinking and stayd always on. | 13:43 |
| Maxiride | the most curious part is that in Ksyslog I v | 13:44 |
| Maxiride | I have no red lines | 13:44 |
| blaze | Maxiride: try "apt update" instead of "apt-get" | 13:45 |
| Maxiride | worked fine | 13:45 |
| blaze | it's strange, kind of | 13:46 |
| blaze | have you checked your hdd btw? and what're your chipset and south bridge controller? | 13:49 |
| Maxiride | Damn.. | 13:51 |
| Maxiride | Just the time to finish writing that it worked fine, few seconds later everything froze | 13:52 |
| Maxiride | The best part.. Kubuntu won't boot now.. I can select if from the grub screen, I see the kubuntu logo and then the screen starts turning on and off | 13:53 |
| Maxiride | I can't even enter a tty | 13:53 |
| blaze | Maxiride: > blaze | have you checked your hdd btw? and what're your chipset and south bridge controller? | 13:53 |
| blaze | it looks like hdd is failing | 13:54 |
| Maxiride | I don't know what you are talking about.. And now I'm chatting from the phone luckily. | 13:54 |
| Maxiride | My hdd is fine I guess, never had any issue | 13:54 |
| Maxiride | Luckily I've a pendrive with the kububtu live image | 13:55 |
| Maxiride | Is there a way to do a rollback of the ppas from a live session? | 13:56 |
| Maxiride | So I can remove the backports landing maybe | 13:57 |
| blaze | try to do chroot and then run ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/whatever-was-here | 13:59 |
| blaze | ppa-purge should be installed | 13:59 |
| Maxiride | Backports-landing is the ppa I had, waiting for the live image to boot and I will try | 14:00 |
| Maxiride | How can the terminal from the live session know to operate on the / directory instead on itself? | 14:00 |
| blaze | run "sudo chroot /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition-here" | 14:02 |
| Maxiride | Ok | 14:02 |
| blaze | partition should be mounted previously | 14:02 |
| Maxiride | Done | 14:07 |
| Maxiride | Ppa also remove I guess | 14:07 |
| Maxiride | Got a bunch of /usr/sbin/ppa-purge lines XXX /dev/null access denied | 14:08 |
| blaze | uhm, yeah, probably you should mount /dev from your live session | 14:09 |
| Maxiride | https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/CLBzj2odQ8yJMIgpCHbo | 14:10 |
| blaze | do it from another terminal session, not chroot | 14:10 |
| Maxiride | Sorry but the system is with Italian language | 14:10 |
| Maxiride | Ook | 14:10 |
| Maxiride | Odd, /dev is inside the /parition, how is it that it didn't got mounted? | 14:12 |
| blaze | nothing is get mounted when you're in chroot, one should always do it manually | 14:15 |
| Maxiride | In chroot if I do ls, the dev folder appears | 14:16 |
| blaze | but is it empty? | 14:17 |
| Maxiride | No | 14:17 |
| Maxiride | Got folders mapper pts, shm, and a bunch of files | 14:17 |
| blaze | what's the output of "ls /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition" ? | 14:18 |
| blaze | err | 14:19 |
| blaze | * what's the output of "ls /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition/dev" ? | 14:19 |
| Maxiride | https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/LB4osv1CSjSfkI1oMmX3 | 14:19 |
| Maxiride | Second ls incoming, a second | 14:19 |
| Maxiride | Same as the ls done in the chroot terminal | 14:20 |
| Maxiride | Except folders a colored :) | 14:20 |
| blaze | okay | 14:21 |
| lordievader | Maxiride: You are chrooting to fix an install? Did you bindmount /dev? | 14:21 |
| Maxiride | Uhm bindmount? I'm not that expert sorry :( | 14:22 |
| Maxiride | you mean mounting it in a tmp folder manually? | 14:22 |
| blaze | nope | 14:23 |
| lordievader | No, mount --rbind /dev /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition/dev | 14:23 |
| Maxiride | Do I have to run it in a normal terminal or in the chroot terminal? | 14:23 |
| blaze | normal | 14:24 |
| Maxiride | Done | 14:24 |
| Maxiride | No errors | 14:24 |
| Maxiride | The ppa purge command in the chroot shell however still says /dev/null access denied | 14:25 |
| lordievader | Maxiride: Can you access it manually? | 14:25 |
| Maxiride | Yep from dolphin yes | 14:26 |
| lordievader | Dolphin? Inside the chroot? I meant, can you access it manually from within your chroot. | 14:26 |
| lordievader | You are running the ppa-purge from a chroot, right? | 14:26 |
| Maxiride | Yes I am running ppa purge Fronza a chroot shell and yes I can enter it | 14:27 |
| Maxiride | Sent a pic of it few messages before | 14:27 |
| lordievader | But can you access /dev/null from within the chroot? | 14:27 |
| Maxiride | https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/LB4osv1CSjSfkI1oMmX3 | 14:28 |
| Maxiride | Cd null, null is not a directory | 14:28 |
| blaze | echo "something" > /dev/null | 14:28 |
| Maxiride | Access denied | 14:29 |
| blaze | hmm | 14:29 |
| lordievader | Maxiride: That root@kubuntu is the chroot? | 14:30 |
| Maxiride | Yes | 14:30 |
| lordievader | What is the output of 'ls -l /dev/'? | 14:30 |
| Maxiride | I get the full list of the files and folders along with they permissions settings | 14:31 |
| Maxiride | Same as the screenshot already posted but with this extra info | 14:31 |
| lordievader | Yes, I am interested in the permissions ;) | 14:32 |
| blaze | ls -l /dev/null | 14:32 |
| Maxiride | So ls -l /dev/null is crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 ott 21 17.49 | 14:33 |
| blaze | correct :) | 14:34 |
| Maxiride | From the ls -l dev instead do you need all the files permissions? | 14:34 |
| blaze | that's enough I guess | 14:34 |
| Maxiride | I just want to let you know guys that I can accept doing a full re-install of the / partition, I didn't add much software | 14:35 |
| Maxiride | So I can easily recover from a clean install | 14:35 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that does look allright. | 14:36 |
| lordievader | You can echo stuff to /dev/null outside of the chroot? | 14:36 |
| Maxiride | Yeah, no errors | 14:37 |
| lordievader | Hmm, then I'd break down your chroot and set it up again. | 14:37 |
| Maxiride | And no messages also, just a new command line | 14:37 |
| Maxiride | Lordievader is that complicate? As said I can "accept" redoing a clean install of / | 14:38 |
| blaze | Maxiride: maybe this will give you a clue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery | 14:40 |
| blaze | check if you've done everything correctly | 14:41 |
| lordievader | Maxiride: The easiest is just rebooting and setup the chroot again. | 14:42 |
| Maxiride | I'll try to follow and redo the steps under update failure | 14:42 |
| Maxiride | Lordievar I can't renter a tty from a normal boot | 14:44 |
| Maxiride | Enter* | 14:44 |
| Maxiride | Lordievader | 14:44 |
| lordievader | What is a normal boot, in this case? | 14:49 |
| Maxiride | I mean, turn on the pc, choose kubuntu from grub | 14:51 |
| lordievader | Not even in the rescue mode? | 14:53 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, check pm | 14:59 |
| lordievader | Why did that need to go over pm? | 14:59 |
| lordievader | Maxiride: That is probably easiest for you, boot into the rescue mode and fix the install from there. | 15:00 |
| BluesKaj | ok lordievader nm | 15:01 |
| BluesKaj | bbl | 15:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world | 19:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | sorry for the long absence | 19:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | I had to take care of some things | 19:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: How do I add the DEBSIGN_KEYID from ~/.devscripts back? | 19:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: have you managed to have some progress on prettifyng the packaging docs? | 19:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | if not, when are you available? | 19:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | let's have a "sprint" and take care of that | 19:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | by the way: yofel clivejo and sgclark congratulations on getting plasma 5.5.3 out | 19:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | and also apps | 19:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | you guys rock | 19:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | a very very heavy rock | 19:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | has anyone started on a news article for this? | 19:09 |
| ahoneybun | I have not, a sprint would be good | 19:10 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: thanks, but apps is not out. | 19:36 |
| yofel | and no, there's no news article for plasma because I never got it into a state where I'm happy to "announce" it | 19:37 |
| yofel | bugs just keep piling up, even if it's mostly usable | 19:37 |
| yofel | but feel free to announce it anyway. I'm out of bugfixing energy right now | 19:38 |
| soee | oh, they have systemd entry in System Settings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limFjIPFk0A | 20:03 |
| soee | it is their own kcm ? | 20:03 |
| valorie | after a report of a problem with amarok after updating backports in 15.10, I get: | 23:18 |
| valorie | $ amarok -d --nofork | 23:18 |
| valorie | QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. | 23:18 |
| valorie | unnamed app(22985): KUniqueApplication: Can't setup D-Bus service. Probably already running. | 23:18 |
| valorie | and it doesn't start | 23:18 |
| valorie | and doesn't show in top | 23:19 |
| mparillo | ovidiu-florin: yofel has asked us to keep quiet on 5.5.3 for a bit. | 23:37 |
| mparillo | And welcome back. Good to see you here. | 23:38 |
| mparillo | Whoops. I suppose I should have read the ENTIRE backlog before starting to type. | 23:38 |
| valorie | ovidiu-florin: wb, we missed you | 23:50 |
| valorie | it's been quiet without you or sgclark (who is at SCaLE + Ubucon) | 23:51 |
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