[09:09] <franklin_> Hi
[09:10] <franklin_> I have some questions about overwriting kubuntu 15.10 (kde plasma 5) default settings
[09:13] <franklin_> in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/layout.js comments from J. Riddles said that this file would replace /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.desktop/layout.js, and it did.  But I couldn't find out any settings pointing this out
[09:13] <franklin_> why and how it could replace the original desktop layout.js?
[09:14] <valorie> franklin_: can you give a bit more context?
[09:15] <franklin_> And in plasma5, it didn't read /etc/kde4rc, and in the source  code of kconfig it seems to read /etc/kde5rc, but I tried without success
[09:15] <valorie> I would assume from the names that kubunt-default-settings conflicts from the standard plasmashell layout there
[09:16] <valorie> but without context it's hard to say
[09:16] <franklin_> wait  a minute
[09:16] <valorie> pastebin if it's long
[09:19] <franklin_> http://pastebin.com/DENGZ5G6
[09:19] <franklin_> in Kubuntu 15.10, only /etc/kde4rc exists
[09:19] <franklin_> I didn't find a configuration specifying to find layout.js under /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/
[09:20] <valorie> thank you franklin_ -- one of the devels will have to look at that
[09:20] <valorie> if nobody answers you (it is Sunday), then please write to kubuntu-devel list
[09:20] <franklin_> I'd like to customize the default desktop and the default panel for my ezgo
[09:20] <franklin_> OK, I used to post on Kubuntu forum but someone told me to ask in irc channel :D
[09:21] <valorie> right, the devels don't usually use or answer on the forums
[09:21] <valorie> that is for users helping users, as is the Kubuntu-user list
[09:22] <valorie> however, the devel list is read by all the developers
[09:23] <franklin_> Thanks
[09:50] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:59] <soee> hiho
[10:00] <lordievader> o/
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:29] <justin_time> Hi, I'm looking for the maintainer of the "tomahawk"-package. Can someone please help me to find the right contact person? The maintainer is "Kubuntu Developers" and so I should be correct here, or?
[12:32] <soee> hi, justin_time
[12:32] <soee> talk to yofel - he did tomahawk packaging once i think. he can also point oher packager to do this maybe (clivejo, sglarck or ovidiu-florin)
[12:34] <justin_time> soee: ok. Thank you for the info!
[12:35] <lordievader> But do keep in mind that it is the weekend, response times are slow ;)
[12:46] <blaze> i've packaged kdevelop from git, much better now than the first beta
[12:46] <blaze> gonna use it on regular basis
[13:40] <soee> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Trojita-Qt-0.6-Client
[13:43] <Maxiride> goddamit I can finally confirm that issue I've been talking about (pc freeze, have to force shutdown it) comes from the update manager I guess. Ran a sudo apt-get update and everything froze except for the hdd led which started blinking and stayd always on.
[13:44] <Maxiride> the most curious part is that in Ksyslog I v
[13:44] <Maxiride> I have no red lines
[13:45] <blaze> Maxiride: try "apt update" instead of "apt-get"
[13:45] <Maxiride> worked fine
[13:46] <blaze> it's strange, kind of
[13:49] <blaze> have you checked your hdd btw? and what're your chipset and south bridge controller?
[13:51] <Maxiride> Damn..
[13:52] <Maxiride> Just the time to finish writing that it worked fine, few seconds later everything froze
[13:53] <Maxiride> The best part.. Kubuntu won't boot now.. I can select if from the grub screen, I see the kubuntu logo and then the screen starts turning on and off
[13:53] <Maxiride> I can't even enter a tty
[13:53] <blaze> Maxiride: > blaze | have you checked your hdd btw? and what're your chipset and south bridge controller?
[13:54] <blaze> it looks like hdd is failing
[13:54] <Maxiride> I don't know what you are talking about.. And now I'm chatting from the phone luckily.
[13:54] <Maxiride> My hdd is fine I guess, never had any issue
[13:55] <Maxiride> Luckily I've a pendrive with the kububtu live image
[13:56] <Maxiride> Is there a way to do a rollback of the ppas from a live session?
[13:57] <Maxiride> So I can remove the backports landing maybe
[13:59] <blaze> try to do chroot and then run ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/whatever-was-here
[13:59] <blaze> ppa-purge should be installed
[14:00] <Maxiride> Backports-landing is the ppa I had, waiting for the live image to boot and I will try
[14:00] <Maxiride> How can the terminal from the live session know to operate on the / directory instead on itself?
[14:02] <blaze> run "sudo chroot /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition-here"
[14:02] <Maxiride> Ok
[14:02] <blaze> partition should be mounted previously
[14:07] <Maxiride> Done
[14:07] <Maxiride> Ppa also remove I guess
[14:08] <Maxiride> Got a bunch of /usr/sbin/ppa-purge lines XXX /dev/null access denied
[14:09] <blaze> uhm, yeah, probably you should mount /dev from your live session
[14:10] <Maxiride> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/CLBzj2odQ8yJMIgpCHbo
[14:10] <blaze> do it from another terminal session, not chroot
[14:10] <Maxiride> Sorry but the system is with Italian language
[14:10] <Maxiride> Ook
[14:12] <Maxiride> Odd, /dev is inside the /parition, how is it that it didn't got mounted?
[14:15] <blaze> nothing is get mounted when you're in chroot, one should always do it manually
[14:16] <Maxiride> In chroot if I do ls, the dev folder appears
[14:17] <blaze> but is it empty?
[14:17] <Maxiride> No
[14:17] <Maxiride> Got folders mapper pts, shm, and a bunch of files
[14:18] <blaze> what's the output of "ls /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition" ?
[14:19] <blaze> err
[14:19] <blaze> * what's the output of "ls /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition/dev" ?
[14:19] <Maxiride> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/LB4osv1CSjSfkI1oMmX3
[14:19] <Maxiride> Second ls incoming, a second
[14:20] <Maxiride> Same as the ls done in the chroot terminal
[14:20] <Maxiride> Except folders a colored :)
[14:21] <blaze> okay
[14:21] <lordievader> Maxiride: You are chrooting to fix an install? Did you bindmount /dev?
[14:22] <Maxiride> Uhm bindmount? I'm not that expert sorry :(
[14:22] <Maxiride> you mean mounting it in a tmp folder manually?
[14:23] <blaze> nope
[14:23] <lordievader> No, mount --rbind /dev /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition/dev
[14:23] <Maxiride> Do I have to run it in a normal terminal or in the chroot terminal?
[14:24] <blaze> normal
[14:24] <Maxiride> Done
[14:24] <Maxiride> No errors
[14:25] <Maxiride> The ppa purge command in the chroot shell however still says /dev/null access denied
[14:25] <lordievader> Maxiride: Can you access it manually?
[14:26] <Maxiride> Yep from dolphin yes
[14:26] <lordievader> Dolphin? Inside the chroot? I meant, can you access it manually from within your chroot.
[14:26] <lordievader> You are running the ppa-purge from a chroot, right?
[14:27] <Maxiride> Yes I am running ppa purge Fronza a chroot shell and yes I can enter it
[14:27] <Maxiride> Sent a pic of it few messages before
[14:27] <lordievader> But can you access /dev/null from within the chroot?
[14:28] <Maxiride> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/LB4osv1CSjSfkI1oMmX3
[14:28] <Maxiride> Cd null, null is not a directory
[14:28] <blaze> echo "something" > /dev/null
[14:29] <Maxiride> Access denied
[14:29] <blaze> hmm
[14:30] <lordievader> Maxiride: That root@kubuntu is the chroot?
[14:30] <Maxiride> Yes
[14:30] <lordievader> What is the output of 'ls -l /dev/'?
[14:31] <Maxiride> I get the full list of the files and folders along with they permissions settings
[14:31] <Maxiride> Same as the screenshot already posted but with this extra info
[14:32] <lordievader> Yes, I am interested in the permissions ;)
[14:32] <blaze> ls -l /dev/null
[14:33] <Maxiride> So ls -l /dev/null is crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 ott 21 17.49
[14:34] <blaze> correct :)
[14:34] <Maxiride> From the ls -l dev instead do you need all the files permissions?
[14:34] <blaze> that's enough I guess
[14:35] <Maxiride> I just want to let you know guys that I can accept doing a full re-install of the / partition, I didn't add much software
[14:35] <Maxiride> So I can easily recover from a clean install
[14:36] <lordievader> Hmm, that does look allright.
[14:36] <lordievader> You can echo stuff to /dev/null outside of the chroot?
[14:37] <Maxiride> Yeah, no errors
[14:37] <lordievader> Hmm, then I'd break down your chroot and set it up again.
[14:37] <Maxiride> And no messages also, just a new command line
[14:38] <Maxiride> Lordievader is that complicate? As said I can "accept" redoing a clean install of /
[14:40] <blaze> Maxiride: maybe this will give you a clue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[14:41] <blaze> check if you've done everything correctly
[14:42] <lordievader> Maxiride: The easiest is just rebooting and setup the chroot again.
[14:42] <Maxiride> I'll try to follow and redo the steps under update failure
[14:44] <Maxiride> Lordievar I can't renter a tty from a normal boot
[14:44] <Maxiride> Enter*
[14:44] <Maxiride> Lordievader
[14:49] <lordievader> What is a normal boot, in this case?
[14:51] <Maxiride> I mean, turn on the pc, choose kubuntu from grub
[14:53] <lordievader> Not even in the rescue mode?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> lordievader, check pm
[14:59] <lordievader> Why did that need to go over pm?
[15:00] <lordievader> Maxiride: That is probably easiest for you, boot into the rescue mode and fix the install from there.
[15:01] <BluesKaj> ok lordievader nm
[15:01] <BluesKaj> bbl
[19:06] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[19:06] <ovidiu-florin> sorry for the long absence
[19:06] <ovidiu-florin> I had to take care of some things
[19:06] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: How do I add the DEBSIGN_KEYID from ~/.devscripts back?
[19:07] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: have you managed to have some progress on prettifyng the packaging docs?
[19:07] <ovidiu-florin> if not, when are you available?
[19:07] <ovidiu-florin> let's have a "sprint" and take care of that
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> by the way: yofel clivejo and sgclark congratulations on getting plasma 5.5.3 out
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> and also apps
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> you guys rock
[19:08] <ovidiu-florin> a very very heavy rock
[19:09] <ovidiu-florin> has anyone started on a news article for this?
[19:10] <ahoneybun> I have not, a sprint would be good
[19:36] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: thanks, but apps is not out.
[19:37] <yofel> and no, there's no news article for plasma because I never got it into a state where I'm happy to "announce" it
[19:37] <yofel> bugs just keep piling up, even if it's mostly usable
[19:38] <yofel> but feel free to announce it anyway. I'm out of bugfixing energy right now
[20:03] <soee> oh, they have systemd entry in System Settings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limFjIPFk0A
[20:03] <soee> it is their own kcm ?
[23:18] <valorie> after a report of a problem with amarok after updating backports in 15.10, I get: 
[23:18] <valorie> $ amarok -d --nofork
[23:18] <valorie> QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave.
[23:18] <valorie> unnamed app(22985): KUniqueApplication: Can't setup D-Bus service. Probably already running.
[23:18] <valorie> and it doesn't start
[23:19] <valorie> and doesn't show in top
[23:37] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: yofel has asked us to keep quiet on 5.5.3 for a bit.
[23:38] <mparillo> And welcome back. Good to see you here.
[23:38] <mparillo> Whoops. I suppose I should have read the ENTIRE backlog before starting to type.
[23:50] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: wb, we missed you
[23:51] <valorie> it's been quiet without you or sgclark (who is at SCaLE + Ubucon)