[09:09] Hi [09:10] I have some questions about overwriting kubuntu 15.10 (kde plasma 5) default settings [09:13] in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/layout.js comments from J. Riddles said that this file would replace /usr/share/plasma/shells/org.kde.desktop/layout.js, and it did. But I couldn't find out any settings pointing this out [09:13] why and how it could replace the original desktop layout.js? [09:14] franklin_: can you give a bit more context? [09:15] And in plasma5, it didn't read /etc/kde4rc, and in the source code of kconfig it seems to read /etc/kde5rc, but I tried without success [09:15] I would assume from the names that kubunt-default-settings conflicts from the standard plasmashell layout there [09:16] but without context it's hard to say [09:16] wait a minute [09:16] pastebin if it's long [09:19] http://pastebin.com/DENGZ5G6 [09:19] in Kubuntu 15.10, only /etc/kde4rc exists [09:19] I didn't find a configuration specifying to find layout.js under /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/ [09:20] thank you franklin_ -- one of the devels will have to look at that [09:20] if nobody answers you (it is Sunday), then please write to kubuntu-devel list [09:20] I'd like to customize the default desktop and the default panel for my ezgo [09:20] OK, I used to post on Kubuntu forum but someone told me to ask in irc channel :D [09:21] right, the devels don't usually use or answer on the forums [09:21] that is for users helping users, as is the Kubuntu-user list [09:22] however, the devel list is read by all the developers [09:23] Thanks [09:50] Good morning. [09:59] hiho [10:00] o/ [11:53] Hey folks [12:29] Hi, I'm looking for the maintainer of the "tomahawk"-package. Can someone please help me to find the right contact person? The maintainer is "Kubuntu Developers" and so I should be correct here, or? [12:32] hi, justin_time [12:32] talk to yofel - he did tomahawk packaging once i think. he can also point oher packager to do this maybe (clivejo, sglarck or ovidiu-florin) [12:34] soee: ok. Thank you for the info! [12:35] But do keep in mind that it is the weekend, response times are slow ;) [12:46] i've packaged kdevelop from git, much better now than the first beta [12:46] gonna use it on regular basis [13:40] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Trojita-Qt-0.6-Client [13:43] goddamit I can finally confirm that issue I've been talking about (pc freeze, have to force shutdown it) comes from the update manager I guess. Ran a sudo apt-get update and everything froze except for the hdd led which started blinking and stayd always on. [13:44] the most curious part is that in Ksyslog I v [13:44] I have no red lines [13:45] Maxiride: try "apt update" instead of "apt-get" [13:45] worked fine [13:46] it's strange, kind of [13:49] have you checked your hdd btw? and what're your chipset and south bridge controller? [13:51] Damn.. [13:52] Just the time to finish writing that it worked fine, few seconds later everything froze [13:53] The best part.. Kubuntu won't boot now.. I can select if from the grub screen, I see the kubuntu logo and then the screen starts turning on and off [13:53] I can't even enter a tty [13:53] Maxiride: > blaze | have you checked your hdd btw? and what're your chipset and south bridge controller? [13:54] it looks like hdd is failing [13:54] I don't know what you are talking about.. And now I'm chatting from the phone luckily. [13:54] My hdd is fine I guess, never had any issue [13:55] Luckily I've a pendrive with the kububtu live image [13:56] Is there a way to do a rollback of the ppas from a live session? [13:57] So I can remove the backports landing maybe [13:59] try to do chroot and then run ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/whatever-was-here [13:59] ppa-purge should be installed [14:00] Backports-landing is the ppa I had, waiting for the live image to boot and I will try [14:00] How can the terminal from the live session know to operate on the / directory instead on itself? [14:02] run "sudo chroot /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition-here" [14:02] Ok [14:02] partition should be mounted previously [14:07] Done [14:07] Ppa also remove I guess [14:08] Got a bunch of /usr/sbin/ppa-purge lines XXX /dev/null access denied [14:09] uhm, yeah, probably you should mount /dev from your live session [14:10] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/CLBzj2odQ8yJMIgpCHbo [14:10] do it from another terminal session, not chroot [14:10] Sorry but the system is with Italian language [14:10] Ook [14:12] Odd, /dev is inside the /parition, how is it that it didn't got mounted? [14:15] nothing is get mounted when you're in chroot, one should always do it manually [14:16] In chroot if I do ls, the dev folder appears [14:17] but is it empty? [14:17] No [14:17] Got folders mapper pts, shm, and a bunch of files [14:18] what's the output of "ls /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition" ? [14:19] err [14:19] * what's the output of "ls /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition/dev" ? [14:19] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/LB4osv1CSjSfkI1oMmX3 [14:19] Second ls incoming, a second [14:20] Same as the ls done in the chroot terminal [14:20] Except folders a colored :) [14:21] okay [14:21] Maxiride: You are chrooting to fix an install? Did you bindmount /dev? [14:22] Uhm bindmount? I'm not that expert sorry :( [14:22] you mean mounting it in a tmp folder manually? [14:23] nope [14:23] No, mount --rbind /dev /media/kubuntu/your-pc-root-partition/dev [14:23] Do I have to run it in a normal terminal or in the chroot terminal? [14:24] normal [14:24] Done [14:24] No errors [14:25] The ppa purge command in the chroot shell however still says /dev/null access denied [14:25] Maxiride: Can you access it manually? [14:26] Yep from dolphin yes [14:26] Dolphin? Inside the chroot? I meant, can you access it manually from within your chroot. [14:26] You are running the ppa-purge from a chroot, right? [14:27] Yes I am running ppa purge Fronza a chroot shell and yes I can enter it [14:27] Sent a pic of it few messages before [14:27] But can you access /dev/null from within the chroot? [14:28] https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/LB4osv1CSjSfkI1oMmX3 [14:28] Cd null, null is not a directory [14:28] echo "something" > /dev/null [14:29] Access denied [14:29] hmm [14:30] Maxiride: That root@kubuntu is the chroot? [14:30] Yes [14:30] What is the output of 'ls -l /dev/'? [14:31] I get the full list of the files and folders along with they permissions settings [14:31] Same as the screenshot already posted but with this extra info [14:32] Yes, I am interested in the permissions ;) [14:32] ls -l /dev/null [14:33] So ls -l /dev/null is crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 ott 21 17.49 [14:34] correct :) [14:34] From the ls -l dev instead do you need all the files permissions? [14:34] that's enough I guess [14:35] I just want to let you know guys that I can accept doing a full re-install of the / partition, I didn't add much software [14:35] So I can easily recover from a clean install [14:36] Hmm, that does look allright. [14:36] You can echo stuff to /dev/null outside of the chroot? [14:37] Yeah, no errors [14:37] Hmm, then I'd break down your chroot and set it up again. [14:37] And no messages also, just a new command line [14:38] Lordievader is that complicate? As said I can "accept" redoing a clean install of / [14:40] Maxiride: maybe this will give you a clue https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery [14:41] check if you've done everything correctly [14:42] Maxiride: The easiest is just rebooting and setup the chroot again. [14:42] I'll try to follow and redo the steps under update failure [14:44] Lordievar I can't renter a tty from a normal boot [14:44] Enter* [14:44] Lordievader [14:49] What is a normal boot, in this case? [14:51] I mean, turn on the pc, choose kubuntu from grub [14:53] Not even in the rescue mode? [14:59] lordievader, check pm [14:59] Why did that need to go over pm? [15:00] Maxiride: That is probably easiest for you, boot into the rescue mode and fix the install from there. [15:01] ok lordievader nm [15:01] bbl [19:06] hello world [19:06] sorry for the long absence [19:06] I had to take care of some things [19:06] yofel: How do I add the DEBSIGN_KEYID from ~/.devscripts back? [19:07] ahoneybun: have you managed to have some progress on prettifyng the packaging docs? [19:07] if not, when are you available? [19:07] let's have a "sprint" and take care of that [19:08] by the way: yofel clivejo and sgclark congratulations on getting plasma 5.5.3 out [19:08] and also apps [19:08] you guys rock [19:08] a very very heavy rock [19:09] has anyone started on a news article for this? [19:10] I have not, a sprint would be good [19:36] ovidiu-florin: thanks, but apps is not out. [19:37] and no, there's no news article for plasma because I never got it into a state where I'm happy to "announce" it [19:37] bugs just keep piling up, even if it's mostly usable [19:38] but feel free to announce it anyway. I'm out of bugfixing energy right now [20:03] oh, they have systemd entry in System Settings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=limFjIPFk0A [20:03] it is their own kcm ? [23:18] after a report of a problem with amarok after updating backports in 15.10, I get: [23:18] $ amarok -d --nofork [23:18] QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. [23:18] unnamed app(22985): KUniqueApplication: Can't setup D-Bus service. Probably already running. [23:18] and it doesn't start [23:19] and doesn't show in top [23:37] ovidiu-florin: yofel has asked us to keep quiet on 5.5.3 for a bit. [23:38] And welcome back. Good to see you here. [23:38] Whoops. I suppose I should have read the ENTIRE backlog before starting to type. [23:50] ovidiu-florin: wb, we missed you [23:51] it's been quiet without you or sgclark (who is at SCaLE + Ubucon)