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| mapps | hi; | 05:58 |
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| mapps | morning;] | 05:58 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:20 |
| Myrtti | is there any point in running shred on ssd's? | 11:44 |
| diddledan | Myrtti: it would probably either be straight no-op or lessen the lifespan a teeny bit over just removing the file and using trim | 17:13 |
| diddledan | either way it wouldn’t actually “shred” a file | 17:14 |
| Myrtti | we ended up using hdparms secure clear whatever thing | 17:15 |
| diddledan | I think that just forces trim commands to be atomic rather than queued | 17:18 |
| diddledan | IANAL tho :-p | 17:18 |
| diddledan | queued/batched | 17:18 |
| penguin42 | secure clear is the only way I'd trust for actually wiping | 17:20 |
| diddledan | I think trim on it’s own just tells the drive to remove the data during a maintenance cycle that it schedules internally | 17:20 |
| penguin42 | or more that it's available if it needs to reuse it later sometime | 17:20 |
| diddledan | whereas I think secure clear makes the drive actually do the job immediately | 17:21 |
| diddledan | and again, IANAL | 17:22 |
| diddledan | aah, secure erase kills the entire drive rather than just bits | 17:25 |
| diddledan | https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase | 17:25 |
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| zmoylan-pi | i thought the way ssd's worked there was no absolute guaranteed way to securely erase a file as wear balancing might write the overwritten variant in a different location on the drive? | 18:14 |
| awilkins | Yes, that was my understanding also | 18:17 |
| zmoylan-pi | your only real way to do it was to bung in it woodchipper fargo style... :-) | 18:18 |
| awilkins | Or make sure you never put unencrypted data on it | 18:19 |
| awilkins | Question : does anyone have a reliable recipe for getting 4oD and Demand5 to work on Wily? | 18:20 |
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| * penguin42 has never managed Demand5 | 18:21 | |
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| Myrtti | woo, so I've unknowingly been doing right on my laptop just out of the old Nokia subcontractor habit, while husband did it wrong | 18:55 |
| Myrtti | whaddaya know | 18:55 |
| brobostigon | :) | 18:56 |
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